Which logo do you prefer? (UPDATED!)

3 is the best (but missin text!)
10 is also quite good.

the baby bird (looks like an owl to me) is cute, but … not really.

Number 4

http://syncreticstudies.com/2014/10/26/the-ukrainian-failed-state-analysis-of-phase-3/ interesting analysis of closed voentorg meme

Number 3 it’s by far the best.

Saker, pls keep No. 2.
It IS imo already a trade mark.

Samantha

N°2

Hi Saker,

I like #4 and #10.

Have a great Sunday!

I would go for either 8 or 11 (they are actually the same pic) but not 6- the chick is cute but the it does look as though it has huge testicles and maybe not the sort of image that fosters mature intelligent debate.

Dear Saker:

Thanks for the opportunity to comment.
Sorry I cannot summon any enthusiasm for any of these. Each one is worse than the last, from a design and conceptual point of view.

Logo 1: Dreadful

Logo 2: OK, but too much black. Leave the St. George’s ribbon out of the logo. As a design motif it does not match the naturalism of the bird and looks IMO ridiculous. Put it on the side, as now. Also, you are covering more topics than Russia, so it confines you/the blog.

Logo 3: Nice picture, but too c omplicated for a logo.

Logo 4: Nice of the bird, but black backround looks Darth Vadarish to me. For heaven’s sakes, what is with the black? Falcons depend on sight to hunt. Do they hunt by night? Are they owls? The whole black night motif in these seems to me to be totally counter to what this blog is abouit, which is about truth, sunshine, transparency, the ligth of day. Nu?

Logo 5: nice of the bird, but too black, to mcuh empty black space, yet the words are too small and busy. And the ribbon does not work.

Logo 6: Cute, use it maybe for special annouincements.

Logo 7: Nice of the bird, but the ribbon looks ridiculous. And the back ground is way too busy. This would be good if you drop the ribbon and just put the map in the background in green or something. It doesn’t even look like a map. Looks like clouds. Who is coming up with these busy, comix superhero designs?? Sorry, worked lifelong in publishing. These are too cutesey and IMO show zerio design sensitivity. They would never be acceptable as a book cover, or anywhere on it. Something else to think abouit. When you start publishign, the logo should also work as an imprint logo.

Logo 8: AS a design, the best so far, but get the phrase is wrong. It should say The Vineyard of the Saker. The point is: the world is the vineyard of the saker, right? So make that visual. And include the phrase “A bird’s-eye view of the vineyard.”

Logo 9: Cute, use for special events/messages.

Logo 10: OK. But again, way to much black. I just “got” the orange stripes. No. Looks like underlining “the Vineyard,” prompting the question ‘why is “the Vineyard” underlined?”

Logo 11: Same as 8.

Logo 12: Too much black. Why only half the globe? What is that white thing on the left? Forget the black/night theme.

IMO the current logo is the best. Keep it simple. These are, I am sorry to say , are all gimmicky ideas and look it. Number10 might be usable as a base, but it is also kind of grandiose. Is that the impression you intend to convey? Again, all that black.

The closest to being acceptable, IMO, as a basic concept, is number 7. But it is still gimmicky and is a visual mud puddle. Drop the ribbon. Looks like a decal stuck onto the poor bird’s beak or floating of the surface of the puddle. The bird is a symbol. Don’t be too literal. The world is the vineyard. Make the background graphically clearer as a map, so that there is some contrast between the bird and the map. Currently they are all in shades of gray and white. Doesn’t work. Make the map schematic, instead of a satellite view. Don’t use black, for heaven’s sake. Use green and blue, the accepted and easily recognized colors of earth and ocean. If you can’t do somehting simple and attractive that is a real improvement, just keep the current logo.

As others said, it is your blog, so do what you like. If I were you I would stick with what you started with. It is the best picture of the bird and says the most in the least pretentious fashion.

No 4,

Dawn of enlightenment.

Logo 4 looks the best to me.

anything but logo 9 and 6 .

Number 4 stroke me right away. The bright light awakens me. Isn’t that what we all work for?
Like was said not the St.George ribbon should be placed separately and larger.

3

Can I please change my choice to logo 3. All of them look to represent hope for a better tomorrow. Thanks and Blessings!

Wow, lot’s of very nice work there. Compliments to each and all!

I vote for no. 3.

Logos work mostly on the subliminal level and should be designed to be “upwardly compatable”.

The thing to which compatability is required is purpose.

Generally adding text into logos mutates the logo into a billboard diffusing focus and diffusing subliminal message, and so text is usually better not included in logos.

If the logo is being viewed there is little reason to include communication data, and also lack of communication data emphasises logo/brand recognition.

Logo 2 may give an impression of not straying too much from the nest, whilst giving a notion of security which may defeat the present purpose and undermine future flexibility and “upward compatability.”

Symbolically logo 3 works best and hits the requirements if the purpose is to catalyse lateral change and perspective.

The possible downside symbolically/subliminally is the light emanating from the East, rather than illumination being a function of communal activity – a tendency already exhibited on certain ocassions within the blog.

It may also carry connotations of religiosity, which some may accept and others not.

A more distant option is 2 and the others are not really in the race if the purpose is to catalyse lateral change.

I’ll not give further reasons as such may bring some illumination to the opponents.

I really love No 6. Small beginning but sure to grow!
(and I do like a bit of irony here and there)

This is great, more logo’s appear, more people appear and even more change their minds!

All truly wonderful images.

Meanwhile, back at the U.S.A Kiev ranch, voting of a somewhat different order has been taking place…
i’m so looking forward to the next sitrep and praying too that good will prevail in the next stage of Ukrainian developments. How brave those people are!
pb

My runoff votes go to 10, 12 and 14

Katherine seems to be the expert here. Very well detailed reasons for/against each one.I agree with
..”what this blog is abouit, which is about truth, sunshine, transparency, the ligth of day…”

Many of you like the sunrise-ey ones because they represent that light just creeping in. Katherine seems to think we have a lot more light already, or at last should be aiming for it, and I tend to agree. That narrow slit of light is supposed to look mystical, mysterious, a kind of phoney spiritual.

I’ll repeat the 3 links I put before, showing the widespread use of the template the popular No 4 is based on. We must not use a common template or a copyright image. (No. 5 belongs to a California winery). Fine as samples, can’t be used in real life.

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Geoengineering-Biosphere-Destruction-and-the-Last-Chance-for-Life-on-Earth.png
https://spirituallygrounded.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/order-of-universe-gregorynyssa.jpg?w=646&h=428
http://cdn.motinetwork.net/motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0911/nothing-deal-with-it-demotivational-poster-1259618713.jpg

This blog is cold hard facts in cold hard light of day, IMO.

Really I’d like the wording “The vineyard of the saker” on a plain background in a nice font like the old blog, and a very lovely photo of a flying saker no background, just the bird. Different plain colours can then be added as background to “colour code” the national blogs, if they come onto the new format.

IDK, up to you guys.

off topic… or NOT

some voting forms from the Ukraine election, click through for English at the right. They told them!! People can end up disappeared these days, for statements like this.

https://www.facebook.com/TruthfromUkraine/photos/pcb.1564787503744596/1564787270411286/?type=1&theater

I like n° 14

Logo 8
Croat and Russophile

Last one I promise. Ignore my previous post. It’d be done in under an hour.

Once again; apologies.

-TL2Q

13 is clean.

2 looks like the internet of the 1990s

Logo 4 definitely.

12 or 13

2, then 4 then 16

eagle eye

10

personally, I love N°9 very much, but as a logo, I think N° 13 is best.

Definitely number 3
Says it all without saying anything
Martin

I forgot Today 26th of October
Happy Name day to Dmitris’ and Dimitris’ and Dimitrios’Being all the same Name in reality.

I vote for logo number 13

Logo 3 is nice

“13 is clean.

2 looks like the internet of the 1990s”

I agree, the image that people see is an important statement, outdated image overlays and fonts are ‘off-code’ as Clotaire Rapaille would say, and thus ineffective. That 13 you are referring to is now in the number 16 slot and slightly modified. From a design and branding perspective I chose the white background, because it is clean and calm and reflects light and transparency. Black backgrounds have the tendency to engender pessimism. Full image banners such as the saker in the vineyard at dusk is nice, but not very expressive of the overall message. The saker in flight conveys purpose, the symmetry and font reflect order and logic. The tagline ‘The Truth is in Flight’ in a way reflects Putins, and hopefully the new Russia’s openness to dialogue in a meaningful way, by being honest and straightforward, in other words, by being truthful with one another.

St.Georges ribbons are also waving as if in celebration….

Cheers

You original Saker logo is so recognizable, I don’t think you should throw it away.