Nazi scum needs to be exterminated, Ukraine needs to be denazified in its entirety, made a lesson for the rest of nazis all over, whoever wants to raise the nazi flag. All of those who have bombed Donbass and continue to do it, should be brought to justice and punish. There can be no mercy for the nazis, they are psychopaths who have no possibility for redemption.
this comment has been flagged as of little/no value (possibly troll) by the saker So what do you make of the fact that Zelensky, a jew, is working hand in hand with these “notsees”? And he is their boss? How can one blame the “notsees” and not blame their bosses? If we liquidate these “notsees” (and we should!), what do we do about their bosses? This is a more or less rhetorical question, but why eliminate one threat and ignore the other, larger and more powerful one?
According to Rus, the nazis are the countries that attacked Russia in 1941, and NATO = nazi in the Russian eye. Z-fella is merely Quisling and only notationally Jewish…he’s a dope fiend and simply a useful idiot, as people say. As Rus very recently said, Z-man ought to return to acting, or else…
It’s implicit according to Rus that nazi HQ resides in City of London and in the USA.
Fear and Panic are the lesser Spirits of War, and just where do we se the signs of Fear and Panic? And where do we not see these?
I await the rodeo when nazis try to close the Baltic…or they to use 101st – like Smoothie just said, what war? With what army?
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Meantime, recalling https://youtu.be/RdR6MN2jKYs it might be that the lyrics could be re-written as a Red Army song…”rollin’rollin’rollin’ keep those nazis rollin’…etc
Zelensky’s people are the ultimate opportunists. “Is it good for us?” is their moral gold test. It is not nor has it ever been “Is it right?” That question is too abstract for their moral code and opens the door to demanding that everyone be treated equally and precludes moral justification for his tribe’s chauvinism against all outsiders.
Zelensky’s people believe “Is it good for us?” gives them the moral right to wail about their fate ninety years ago and in the next breath to justify with a straight face Israel’s attempt to inflict the same fate on the Palestinians. It’s not that Zelensky’s people object to notsee tactics as a general concept; It’s that they only object to notsee tactics being perpetrated against them.
Fed up with all these antisemitic posts. Nazis are in your head don ‘t you think?
Russia’s bombing Ukraine randomly and you still claim this is an efficient nazi hunt? Really?
They all flew out to Natoist safehavens , remember. Yet, the one I want caught and punished the most is Kolomoisky. He really needs to pay, in public on the tv screens.
If they wanted to get them that would not protect them to escape abroad. As I recall the Russian security services tracked down many terrorists from the Chechen Wars in other countries.And eliminated them there. It’s the will not the distance that might save them.But on the other hand there may be people in Donbass that decide not to wait for Russia. And track those people down themselves.We shall have to wait and see.
But I think it goes like that, they are all being used for their lack of moral considerations and abilities to stay in power and suck and deliver money from their victims to their superiors, and as long they are buffers and scapegoats between the exploited and the real superiors they are useful and left unpunished.
This was personally told to me: In the terrible 90s a group of Austrians old people went for vacation to Moscow, every guy old enough to have participated in the great patriotic war, was interrogated and checked for war crimes .. even in times of worst chaos it seems to me the Russians had discipline to go after those who wronged them. Ukrainians and others be aware of this.
Victor Grossman ‘s book “A socialist Defector” tell of his forced (by circumstances of being leftist!) move to East Germany in 1952 from the US Army of Occupation and his subsequent 38 years in the GDR and ever since in united Germany. He relates how determined the East Germans were to eliminate Nazism, while the West certainly did not, and we see the results ever since. It is a really worthwhile eye-opening book! He is still active in his 90s and has been interviewed by Richard Wolff and writes a newsletter about Germany these days.
Having used East Berlin as a base for my business activities across Eastern Europe from 1990 to 2003 and having a GF who had been in the MfS who was extremely candid about all the pre-1990 history, i can state with absolute certaintly that up to 1990, the East German government was successful in countering any fascist momentum within the GDR.
The population very much appreciated the socialist collectivist mindset but did not appreciate the repressive psychological pressures applied by the government.
From 1990, a different social ‘climate’ evolved in East Germany. The Treuhand was set up to specifically destroy the successful East German businesses, to kill competition to the western German corporations…This resulted in unemployment and a disillusioned youth who then sought some alternative life-goals. The type of neo-nazi mobement ascribed to the East Germans is a case of ‘false-labelling’ – i have many west German leftist friends – who totally support the fascist-predatory-USA – who accuse the AfD party of recruiting neo-nazis in their ranks, when in reality, these youths are political-drifters who simply seek some order and discipline in their lives and are attracted to the order that seemed to exist in the Nazi years….but that doesnt make them Nazis as they are not truly racist and dont hate the Russians and do actually appreciate the socialist state that existed from 1961 to 1990
…so Rosemerry is very much Spot-On…
Remember the Baader-Meinhof ‘terrorists ? these were west German students who were initially irritated by the large number of “real’ Nazis that continued to be in power in Germany post WW2…top positions such as held by the Head of the judiciary in Karlsruhe, the chief medical officer who had been a student of Mengele…people like Kurt Waldheim…and you had disaffected students such as Joska Fisher, who were directly implicated in a Baader-Meinhof attack on the head of German industry, Hans-Martin Schleyer…JF then became Foreign Minister and all his previous ‘bad’ behaviour even the fact that his gun and car had been identified as being used in the kidnapping, was now ‘off-limits’…
I raise this just as a contrast to the East German scene…the former Nazis that had powerful positions before, and ended up in East Germany, served the collectivist society and not the fascist one…with one very notable exception, who had a direct link to Churchill
It is a complex topic and it would be interesting to hear more contrasting opinions…
…”The Treuhand was set up to specifically destroy the successful East German businesses”. Yes sir. I felt it on my own skin since 1989 in Romania. EU declared that all of the communist industry was obsolete. “Energofag” was the key word. Means energy consumption too high for productivity!? The result was simple: Romania lost all their productive capacity in concrete, metalurgical, mecanichal areas. Now we proudly belong and need EU companies. And all of this happened under our noses, since their propaganda was better than our common sense.
I think the west has got away with so many atrocities in the last couple of decades it’s become almost normal and it’s genuinely shocked that Russia has stepped in to prevent them continuing. Had the Neo-Nazi militias targeted westerners, I’ve no doubt much of Ukraine would now be reduced to a pile of rubble by NATO.
It was all very well ethnically cleansing Russians in the Crimea and Donbass while those responsible thought that NATO would protect them, but I suspect there are more than a few worried militia men regretting getting involved and becoming rather apprehensive about the future.
It’s ironic that those in the west whose grandfather’s fought against Nazis should now be cheering on the same Nazis and criticize Russia who are now having to get rid of them again. It’s a strange world we live in.
Nazi Germany was not part of the western sphere of influence then. There was a power struggle between Great Britain, France and Germany to control Europe wich eventually led to two World wars. Some time later, the US simply joined the winning side.
Now that the entire Germany is an occupied territory, it has been assimilated into the collective West.
Nazism is just a tool to spread hate, and it is clearly working.
We should see past the nazi ideology and confront the real threat to the world: US hegemony.
Remember how Europe were sharp against S. Africa apartheid, releasing Nelson Mandela and held the high banner as an island in the world for human rights, to Europe’s moral decay and financial, military and political support today of the same apartheid in this case Ukraine.
The moral high ground quickly disappear when people see a dollar bill.
Were they against Apartheid? don’t think so it was the Soviet Union who were on the right side of History at the time,the Fascist Thatcher and her side kick Ronald Reagan supported the Apartheid Nazis,when the South Africans invaded Angola and created carnage with their puppet Savimbi,then when the Cubans became involved on the side of the MPLA and taught the Nazis a lesson Reagan and Thatcher were ranting on about how the Cubans have to leave Angola,after Mandela took power all the scum who had supported the Nazis wanted to be his best friend,i believe the first Country Mandela visited after taking power was Russia,he never forgot who his friends were.
Hitler’s Germany was supported by the US and UK for the purpose of a proxy war against the USSR and “the evils of communism”.
The US did not join the ‘winning side’ in WWII (the USSR).
Europe has not been assimilated, it has been covertly and overtly undermined and economically captured by the US, starting with lend-lease and the Marshall Plan.
Nazism is not a tool to spread hate, it is the most vicious form of facism. The US picked up where Hilter left off.
That was before the US entered the war. After that then the USSR began to get lend-lease aid. Just as with Ukraine today the aid to the Soviets was meant to help the West in their war. The US couldn’t care less about saving the USSR. They sent the aid so as to help with the defeat of Germany,which they were fighting too.
Roosevelt goaded Japan into war so as to trigger war with Japan’s ally, Germany. If his administration had been genuinely anti-Soviet, it would have joined forces with Hitler, Bolshevism’s greatest foe.
It’s an error to assume the W2 era US policy set was not bifurcated.
See interalia Alperowitz “The Decision to Use the Bomb” wherein Groves is quoted as saying, during lend lease, “the bomb is [not for Japan] for Russia. Some might possibly see Groves’ words as insubordination or even treason.
They wanted to kill two birds with one stone. Europe and Germany fully decimated and Russia on it’s knees after fighting the Nazi’s. They almost got it… Yes the same money changers and their poodles USA and UK
The US wanted both sides to wear each other down, while it stood back, until the Soviets started really rolling westward. It looked like the Soviet forces could occupy all of Europe. So by the time Germany was defeated, the Soviets controlled the eastern half of it.
In WWI, the US also waited as the warring sides wore themselves down before getting involved.
November 11th in the “ United “ Kingdom is Remembrance Day when politicians and Senior `Military gather at the Cenotaph to commemorate those who sacrificed their lives in the fight against the Nazis.
It needs to be cancelled; there is a limit to the amount of hypocrisy people can stand.
“It’s ironic that those in the west whose grandfather’s fought against Nazis should now be cheering on the same Nazis and criticize Russia who are now having to get rid of them again. It’s a strange world we live in.”
I think it is pretty much like the last time around, the West role in WW1 and WW2 is not well understood in the west. In places in the western world the wests ‘fight’ against nazism consisted of betraying those who defeted the Nazis. Handing power back over to the fasists. See Italy, or any communist/socialist leaning country.
A historic moment – VVP explains the background to the re-integration of the DPR and LPR into the Russian Federation and then there is the signing ceremony for all parties involved.
The inference is that the other, southern Oblasts will be part of a Novorossija, so they are associate states to Russia with full military protection (but one can assume they will eventually also wish to be part of the RF after what they have been through…)
For the moment Chernigiv and Sumy Oblasts are still in limbo…
Good. I hope they expand the hunt globally, and beyond the mere footsoldiers. I would like the creators of the Ukronazis to tremble as they pour themselves another drink, when they think of the Justice that is comming their way.
It seems the ukro-nazis (death cult) are working to create a nuclear disaster in Russian speaking territories in the former Ukraine. Which would affect Ukraine,Belarus,and Russia. It’s pastime that Russia “got off the stick” before that happens. Put on your big-boy pants and call the US and EU controllers of Ukraine and tell them directly that if their nazi stooges do that. Then the 88 nuclear plants in the US and the 103 nuclear plants in the EU will be made direct targets. And back that up by missile strikes close to the 2 nuclear power plants in West Ukraine as an object lesson. This issue is too important to the existence of the Russian people to be weak.Remember Putin’s words that he could not conceive of wanting a world without Russia.Don’t just talk,act.
Nuclear escalation is full hardy. We all die as a result. Better send a FOAB to Lwow and explain that this will be repeated every time there are missiles coming in at NPS.
Which is why it must be made “crystal clear” to the Western controllers of the Ukro-nazis that if Russia is to suffer a nuclear disaster so are they. Nothing else will get that message to them.The missile strikes “near” to the 2 West Ukraine nuclear plants will show that the US and EU plants can be struck. If they think Russia is just bluffing they will ignore them.
A strike on the ZNPP that releases a deadly nuclear cloud, is in fact a ‘nuclear first strike’.
Yes, you read that right. This is the stark message the insane collective West, NATZO, and the neo/libCONS must come to grips with now.
It must be a Cuban Missile Crisis cubed. -MLht
It seems there is a lot of work needed to be done inside Russia to punish 5th column Ukie supporters. A strong case for a full wartime revival of the Cheka can be made. Here is a particularly bad case that calls out for harsh punishment. It comes from of all places Crimea. Where it appears the authorities are not being anywhere near vigilant enough. I would suggest patriotic citizen action unless the authorities start doing their jobs better.The author’s response might be a tab too harsh,but I can understand his anger :
Sea of Azov, resort settlement Shchelkino, Crimea, karaoke bar “Crab”, a Ukrainian song is performed in support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with Javelins, warriors of light, tridents, etc.
Burn, piss on the building, those responsible to be executed in the city center by hanging or quartered live, the rest of the guests present in exile to the Donbass to restore the infrastructure. https://t.me/vicktop55/5657
Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t Russian troops occupying defensive positions surrounding the nuclear power plant? I think that’s the case. That means the Nazis are the side firing at the Russians. So, the Nazis are incurring the risk of missing the Russians and blowing up the power plant.
Given these facts, what’s the logic in blaming Russia for endangering the plant? If the West’s complaints about this situation are genuine, and not propaganda, then they’d be demanding that the Nazis refrain from firing in the direction of the plant.
Western hypocrisy – particularly from policy and media elites in English-language countries – is incredible. Think about it.
All along, the West has been decrying Russia for firing at Nazi positions that are surrounded by civilian settlements. On this score, the news is all about “Russian barbarians” slaughtering civilians. But, from the beginning, it’s been clear that the Nazis are deliberately establishing positions among civilians, including nursing homes, schools, and hospitals. The UN, Amnesty International, and the OSCE have published reports confirming that this is a preferred and deliberate tactic of the Nazi military. That is, to literally use civilians as human shields against Russian firepower.
In spite of this Nazi battle tactic, the West blames Russia, and not the Nazi army, for endangering civilians. According to Western logic, this means Russia is morally obligated to cease fire, even though Nazi troops are firing weapons from those civilian settlements.
The double-standards of the West are just mind boggling. Absolutely crazy.
«but aren’t Russian troops occupying defensive positions surrounding the nuclear power plant? I think that’s the case. That means the Nazis are the side firing at the Russians. So, the Nazis are incurring the risk of missing the Russians and blowing up the power plant»
The usual explanation is:
* The ukrainian government are targeting *the plant* (usually when the winds blow east towards Crimea or the Donbas) not the RF troops around it.
* There are two purposes for this, and the main one is the hope of triggering a trigger a NATO attack on the plant to secure it and return it to ukrainian government control, so the electricity produced by the plant can be redirected towards central and west Ukraine.
* The other purpose is to damage the plant so it cannot be used to supply electricity to the Donbas or Kherson or Crimea.
There is a very big reason for this, winter:
* The ukrainian fascist government is bankrupt, and it has no money to pay for sufficient supplies of fuel and electricity for winter, and anyhow most ukrainian in central and western Ukraine do not have the money to pay for heating or electricity. Please remember that most energy supplies to Ukraine were from the Russian Federation.
* The scarce supplies of heating and electricity in winter can either be used for the ukrainian government military, and then the civilians die in large numbers, or for the civilians, and then the military have to surrender.
* Even if NATO had the supplies to donate to Ukraine, most areas of central Ukraine are too far from NATO borders and Ukraine does not have transport capacity to deliver them in sufficient quantities.
* In any case NATO does not have sufficient supplies to donate to Ukraine because the RF is using “sanctions” to prevent the EU states from accumulating reserves during this summer, and they will have barely enough for themselves in winter.
* The RF will show ukrainians that this winter the ukrainians in Novorossya have heating, food, electricity, those in central Ukraine won’t.
* Therefore the ukrainian government want NATO to either capture the nuclear power plant so they can feed electricity to their population, or to damage it so the plant cannot supply electricity to Novorossya, or contaminates it with radioactive stuff.
What most people don’t get is that the RF “Special Military Operation” is not about an invasion of Ukraine, but a *siege* of Ukraine, destroying (or capturing, as in the case of the plant as Zaporizhzhia or the ports on the sea of Azov and the Black Sea) ukrainian logistics so it has to surrender because it has run out of food, fuel, electricity and munitions during winter.
Part of the siege has been a limited operation to occupy Novorossya ensure that the whole of Novorossya is protected from the consequences of the siege and from ukrainian vengeance.
My impression is that the next RF step during the autumn will be to capture or neutralize the ports of Nikolaev and Odessa, and then let General Winter do the job.
My expectation is that this winter another 10-15 million ukrainians, hungry and freezing, will try to emigrate to the EU, causing mayhem in it, and probably several millions will start leaving the Ukraine in autumn as they realize that they won’t have fuel, food or heating in winter.
«a *siege* of Ukraine, destroying (or capturing, as in the case of the plant as Zaporizhzhia or the ports on the sea of Azov and the Black Sea) ukrainian logistics so it has to surrender because it has run out of food, fuel, electricity and munitions during winter.»
That is part of what what the ukrainian fascist government did to the Donbas “terrorists” as they cut off all supplies from Ukraine of food, fuel and electricity to the Donbas, and after having been defeated militarily by the Donbas army they put under siege the Donbas that way, and kept bombing its civilian areas to kill “terrorists” or scare them away to ethnically cleanse them from the Donbas. Let’s see how the fascist ruthenians and the central ukrainians like it when a lesser form of that treatment is given to them.
«The double-standards of the West are just mind boggling.»
It is just the standard difference between (our) “freedom-fighters” and (their) “terrorists”. So for “home front morale” purposes the NATO elites want to tell their populations that the “terrorist” “orcs” are bombing an “ukrainian” nuclear plant (even if it is now russian), just as they have been telling their populations that the “terrorist” “orcs” attacked the ukrainians in the Donbas in 2014.
Thomas Jefferson, 1814: “I deplore with you the putrid state into which our newspapers have passed, and the malignity, the vulgarity, & mendacious spirit of those who write for them: […] these ordures are rapidly depraving the public taste, and lessening it’s relish for sound food. as vehicles of information, and a curb on our functionaries they have rendered themselves useless by forfeiting all title to belief.”
George Orwell, 1943: “Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. […] I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various ‘party lines’.”
George Orwell, 1945: “Victor Raikes, the Tory M.P., who is an able and outspoken reactionary, made a speech which I should have considered a good one if it had referred only to Poland and Jugoslavia. But after dealing with those two countries he went on to speak about Greece, and then suddenly black became white, and white black. […] There is no one who is able to say – at least, no one who has the chance to say in a newspaper of big circulation – that this whole dirty game of spheres of influence, quislings, purges, deportation, one-party elections and hundred per cent plebiscites is morally the same whether it is done by ourselves, the Russians or the Nazis.”
Harold MacMillan, 1963: “It is wonderful not to read the newspapers — except a rapid glance through The Times. It makes such a difference. One feels better, mentally and morally, not to be absorbing unconsciously, all that steady stream of falsehood, innuendo, poison which makes up the Press today, apart from purely informative sections.“
Historians can trace the rise of newspapers to happen with the rise of political parties, in England circa 1700. Already by 1730 the Grub Street Journal was satirizing the industry. For that matter, the graffiti remnants of Pompeii have a significant amount of political sloganeering (though perhaps not so numerous as the Roman swear words extant), which likely was a similar phenomenon of propaganda intersecting politics.
It’s a similar subject.
Today’s headline in Slovenian media. Ukraine will search for and kill all that Russians who are shelling nuclear power plant. They lie so much that even forget of a simple logic. Russia has now a very large power plant. For free. The value is in billions of euros or dollars. Russia will not return it, so when war will be over the plant will sell electricity. New Ukraine will have neutral government and huge debts, so they will buy electricity there and sell Ukrainian to Eu where prices are high. It’s absurd for a country who advances slowly but constantly to destroy its new war gift which will bring a lot of money in the future.
I don’t think that Zelenski will chase anyone. He and his government will have to run. I’m wondering what lie will be writen if he would be captured?
We have been witnessing for 8 days the definitive moral collapse of the western ruling world. American & European support – sneaky or passive – for the suicidal game of the Kievan army with the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, relayed by the media⬇️1/n
… disqualifies, if they weren’t, the Bidens, Johnsons, Scholzs, Macrons. The International Atomic Energy Agency contents itself with worried declarations and the Secretary General of the UN espouses the Western thesis. Very few Americans and Europeans realize..2/n
… of the seriousness of the situation. Let’s recap: 1. The Russians cannot bomb any location they are standing in. You can ignore any media that utters such nonsense. 2. When they fixed part of the Ukrainian army in February-March in the region…3/n
…of kyiv, in order to be able to quickly seize the regions north of the Crimea, the Russians took control of the Chernobyl site. There is an old European rule in the practice of war: certain objectives are sanctuary. Opponents engage….4/n
…to respect a minimum of rules. Keeping the country’s nuclear power plants out of conflict should be part of it – when you have a modicum of common sense and survival instinct. The Russians occupied the Zaporozhye power plant very early, also for this reason – to hold it…5/n
…away from conflict. But 3. the Kievan government that emerged from Maidan does not look towards the Westphalian European tradition; its two models are American-style warfare and fascism. We will therefore not be surprised, in itself, that a Kievan army trained for 8 years..6/n
…by the Americans is inclined to disregard any safeguards. Especially given the strong influence within it of the neo-Nazis who, at a time when the cause appears to be compromised, can refer to the Neronian order of March 19, 1945 – Hitler ordered the destruction of all…7/n
… German infrastructure, to drag the country into the abyss with it – kyiv plays the “twilight of the gods”, in the form of a second Chernobyl, in particular to take revenge on these Ukrainian populations in the East who do not are waiting for one thing, the Russian victory…8/n
…(they have long been loyal to the Ukrainian state; but their willingness to “try Ukraine” has been eroded and then outright swept away by the behavior of the Kievans). It is understandable that kyiv wants at all costs to prevent the holding of referendums, in the fall, on…9/n
…the attachment to Russia. What better than to provoke a new Chernobyl to hinder the process naturally resulting from the Ukrainian refusal to negotiate seriously with the Russian side – the future loss of at least 20% of Ukrainian territory in addition to Crimea?..10/n
… and 4. we understand very well that the Americans, with their traditional lack of scruples, help the Ukrainians with precise strikes (hit for example nuclear waste stocks) and that they push for a worst-case scenario which would allow them to return.. 11/n
..the situation as the bet to bring down Russia is apparently lost. 5. It is less easy to understand at first sight that the European Union fits into this scenario. Of course there is voluntary servitude in the USA (registered in the texts from the Treaty of Maastricht)… 12/n
…but he hides behind the unworthy and irresponsible attitude of a Macron, a Scholz, a Josep Borrell, something else: wouldn’t a major nuclear accident be welcome to discredit a source of energy in full reconquest of the spirits throughout the world…13/n
…and where Russia and China are today more and more clearly the leading countries? In reality, the deeper we dig, the more we will see the convergence of Zelenski’s nihilism and that of a West whose elites and “hyper-graduates” are fascinated by the prospect of a..14/n
…modern apocalypse (pandemics, climatic catastrophe, nuclear incident etc…). 6.People in the know say both that a “second Chernobyl” is unlikely (but not impossible) given the crash tests that presided over the construction of the plant; but…15/n
…they fear a medium-intensity accident, following shots that would cause damage, for example by releasing radiation from their stored waste. Even without going as far as the resulting irradiation in a circumference of several hundred kilometers, …16/n
…already the scenario of a Ukraine largely deprived of electricity following a shutdown of the plant is a disaster. We are at the mercy of a failed Russian interception of Ukrainian fire. Here we are back to our starting point. We live…17/n
…live the final moral collapse of the West and its loss of legitimacy in the international community. NATO was founded to defend the free world against totalitarianism. And here she is engaged in a fascistic headlong rush. The European Union…18/n
…is theoretically in the service of peace. And yet, these two sets – which largely overlap – are in a logic of “adding war to war” and tolerate or even encourage “Ukrainian roulette” with the central Zaporozhye. The experience…19/n.
.. of the totalitarianisms of the 20th century should however have taught us that regimes based on lies are collapsing. What is NATO worth now? What is the word of a Macron, that of a Scholz? Not only should the Free French hope that the worst will be avoided…20/n
…in Zaporozhye. (If we are Christians, we have a prophetic duty to pray intensely and, for those whose state duty allows it, to fast to avert the announced apocalypse). But we must also begin to prepare minds for the inevitable…21/n
…collapse of NATO, three decades after the Warsaw Pact; to that of the European Union, which will experience the same fate as COMECON; at the end of the ruling caste in the West. Of course, this will not happen by itself. We must look to the future…22/n
…of our societies with the same eyes as a Solzhenitsyn or a Havel saw the future of Soviet communism half a century ago. We have a duty of truth in the face of the lies of power – and its follies. Western Progressivism – which I prefer to call…23/n
…”gray fascism” is no better than its Soviet predecessor. (Or its Chinese neo-communist contemporary; that will be dealt with another time). If some doubted it, the cynical game with the Zaporozhye power plant provides undeniable proof. And since… 24/n
…we are fortunate to be able to refer to the peaceful revolutions of 1989 “from the Danube to the Urals”, let us begin to prepare ours, in the west of the old continent. Free French, let’s get together! n/n – n=25 END OF THREAD
Original in french: sorry very long, but very interesting
«the convergence of Zelenski’s nihilism and that of a West whose elites and “hyper-graduates” are fascinated by the prospect of a modern apocalypse (pandemics, climatic catastrophe, nuclear incident etc…)»
Ahhh, there are many americans, especially in the military, especially in the Air Force, that are praying for the end of times and the rapture, including one GW Bush:
http://sedulia.blogs.com/sedulias_translations/2009/05/bush-chirac-gog-and-magog.html
«In 2003, Thomas Römer, a theology professor at the University of Lausanne [Switzerland], received a telephone call from the Elysée Palace [in Paris, home of the President of France]. Jacques Chirac’s advisers wanted to know more about Gog and Magog… two mysterious names that had been spoken by George W. Bush as he was trying to persuade France to go to war at his side in Iraq.»
«Bush is said to have declared to Chirac that Gog and Magog were at work in the Middle East, and the Biblical Prophecies were being accomplished. It was a few weeks before the intervention in Iraq. The French president, to whom the names of Gog and Magog meant nothing, was stupefied.»
This was reported directly by T Römer and confirmed by J Chirac in a book-interview with JC Maurice:
Also, not everybody in the USA elites is as moderate and sensible as GW Bush, there are much weirder people:
https://medium.com/s/futurehuman/survival-of-the-richest-9ef6cddd0cc1
«I just sat there at a plain round table as my audience was brought to me: five super-wealthy guys — yes, all men — from the upper echelon of the hedge fund world. After a bit of small talk, I realized they had no interest in the information I had prepared about the future of technology. They had come with questions of their own. […] Finally, the CEO of a brokerage house explained that he had nearly completed building his own underground bunker system and asked, “How do I maintain authority over my security force after the event?”
The Event. That was their euphemism for the environmental collapse, social unrest, nuclear explosion, unstoppable virus, or Mr. Robot hack that takes everything down.
This single question occupied us for the rest of the hour. […]
They were not interested in how to avoid a calamity; they’re convinced we are too far gone. For all their wealth and power, they don’t believe they can affect the future»
For that reason many in the USA elites are fascinated by Yamantau Mountain, because they think that RF elites think the same. BTW sometimes I wonder whether the USSR found the “vara of the iranians”, which is probably buried in the southern Urals (even if most people think it was in the Tajik mountains).
This topic of Gog and Magog has been discussed by me on this blog many times. The truth of the matter is this is all hogwash. Ezekiel 38 and 39 has nothing to do with either Russia or Germany! Nor does it have anything to do with the current middle east events or even Israel. One can see my book on the subject lies all lies by Gerry Fox for another explanation more in line with Biblical scripture.
It’s highly dangerous though that people like Bush and others actually believe this!! It has to stop and stop immediately!!!!
Yes, we can!
Hunt them down til the end of time. Vast Russian resources can easily afford such adventures.
Bring Death to scum at every corner on Earth.
At the end most of western politicians are nothing more but opportunists. We will see lots of turncoats during next 12 months. They just like their MSM soul mates don’t wanna be losers. And when most folks have not longer than half year political memory this makes turncoating much more easier. EU is dump pit (or deportation) for national politicians, most of them have been not very succesful.
The bastards have bombed Crimea again going off todays reports,sabotage,would not be surprised if Nato were directly responsible,they are attacking Russia,its time Russia took the gloves off and blew Western Ukraine away and took out the vipers nest in Kiev.
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Nazi scum needs to be exterminated, Ukraine needs to be denazified in its entirety, made a lesson for the rest of nazis all over, whoever wants to raise the nazi flag. All of those who have bombed Donbass and continue to do it, should be brought to justice and punish. There can be no mercy for the nazis, they are psychopaths who have no possibility for redemption.
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So what do you make of the fact that Zelensky, a jew, is working hand in hand with these “notsees”? And he is their boss? How can one blame the “notsees” and not blame their bosses? If we liquidate these “notsees” (and we should!), what do we do about their bosses? This is a more or less rhetorical question, but why eliminate one threat and ignore the other, larger and more powerful one?
According to Rus, the nazis are the countries that attacked Russia in 1941, and NATO = nazi in the Russian eye. Z-fella is merely Quisling and only notationally Jewish…he’s a dope fiend and simply a useful idiot, as people say. As Rus very recently said, Z-man ought to return to acting, or else…
It’s implicit according to Rus that nazi HQ resides in City of London and in the USA.
Fear and Panic are the lesser Spirits of War, and just where do we se the signs of Fear and Panic? And where do we not see these?
I await the rodeo when nazis try to close the Baltic…or they to use 101st – like Smoothie just said, what war? With what army?
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Meantime, recalling https://youtu.be/RdR6MN2jKYs it might be that the lyrics could be re-written as a Red Army song…”rollin’rollin’rollin’ keep those nazis rollin’…etc
Zelensky’s people are the ultimate opportunists. “Is it good for us?” is their moral gold test. It is not nor has it ever been “Is it right?” That question is too abstract for their moral code and opens the door to demanding that everyone be treated equally and precludes moral justification for his tribe’s chauvinism against all outsiders.
Zelensky’s people believe “Is it good for us?” gives them the moral right to wail about their fate ninety years ago and in the next breath to justify with a straight face Israel’s attempt to inflict the same fate on the Palestinians. It’s not that Zelensky’s people object to notsee tactics as a general concept; It’s that they only object to notsee tactics being perpetrated against them.
Zelensky is sure no Nazi as per definition of Nationalsocialist, replace socialist with zionist and voila Zelensky is a NationalZionist, a Nazio!
Don’t leeave out the Ashke-NAZIs,
Or the Khaz-ARYAN’s. Using phonetics to hide a nefarious purpose is becoming well known.
Fed up with all these antisemitic posts. Nazis are in your head don ‘t you think?
Russia’s bombing Ukraine randomly and you still claim this is an efficient nazi hunt? Really?
I wonder if Russia will pursue the individuals who financed organisations like Azov?
To Wazdaka.
They all flew out to Natoist safehavens , remember. Yet, the one I want caught and punished the most is Kolomoisky. He really needs to pay, in public on the tv screens.
If they wanted to get them that would not protect them to escape abroad. As I recall the Russian security services tracked down many terrorists from the Chechen Wars in other countries.And eliminated them there. It’s the will not the distance that might save them.But on the other hand there may be people in Donbass that decide not to wait for Russia. And track those people down themselves.We shall have to wait and see.
A fight to the pinnacle end with trojans.
Poroshenko too and many others.
But I think it goes like that, they are all being used for their lack of moral considerations and abilities to stay in power and suck and deliver money from their victims to their superiors, and as long they are buffers and scapegoats between the exploited and the real superiors they are useful and left unpunished.
This was personally told to me: In the terrible 90s a group of Austrians old people went for vacation to Moscow, every guy old enough to have participated in the great patriotic war, was interrogated and checked for war crimes .. even in times of worst chaos it seems to me the Russians had discipline to go after those who wronged them. Ukrainians and others be aware of this.
Victor Grossman ‘s book “A socialist Defector” tell of his forced (by circumstances of being leftist!) move to East Germany in 1952 from the US Army of Occupation and his subsequent 38 years in the GDR and ever since in united Germany. He relates how determined the East Germans were to eliminate Nazism, while the West certainly did not, and we see the results ever since. It is a really worthwhile eye-opening book! He is still active in his 90s and has been interviewed by Richard Wolff and writes a newsletter about Germany these days.
Quite simply: It’s not true, that never happened in East Germany.
Having used East Berlin as a base for my business activities across Eastern Europe from 1990 to 2003 and having a GF who had been in the MfS who was extremely candid about all the pre-1990 history, i can state with absolute certaintly that up to 1990, the East German government was successful in countering any fascist momentum within the GDR.
The population very much appreciated the socialist collectivist mindset but did not appreciate the repressive psychological pressures applied by the government.
From 1990, a different social ‘climate’ evolved in East Germany. The Treuhand was set up to specifically destroy the successful East German businesses, to kill competition to the western German corporations…This resulted in unemployment and a disillusioned youth who then sought some alternative life-goals. The type of neo-nazi mobement ascribed to the East Germans is a case of ‘false-labelling’ – i have many west German leftist friends – who totally support the fascist-predatory-USA – who accuse the AfD party of recruiting neo-nazis in their ranks, when in reality, these youths are political-drifters who simply seek some order and discipline in their lives and are attracted to the order that seemed to exist in the Nazi years….but that doesnt make them Nazis as they are not truly racist and dont hate the Russians and do actually appreciate the socialist state that existed from 1961 to 1990
…so Rosemerry is very much Spot-On…
Remember the Baader-Meinhof ‘terrorists ? these were west German students who were initially irritated by the large number of “real’ Nazis that continued to be in power in Germany post WW2…top positions such as held by the Head of the judiciary in Karlsruhe, the chief medical officer who had been a student of Mengele…people like Kurt Waldheim…and you had disaffected students such as Joska Fisher, who were directly implicated in a Baader-Meinhof attack on the head of German industry, Hans-Martin Schleyer…JF then became Foreign Minister and all his previous ‘bad’ behaviour even the fact that his gun and car had been identified as being used in the kidnapping, was now ‘off-limits’…
I raise this just as a contrast to the East German scene…the former Nazis that had powerful positions before, and ended up in East Germany, served the collectivist society and not the fascist one…with one very notable exception, who had a direct link to Churchill
It is a complex topic and it would be interesting to hear more contrasting opinions…
“It is a complex topic and it would be interesting to hear more contrasting opinions…”
There are many complex topics that will be addressed in time, since time and perception don’t hurry, despite the beliefs of some.
…”The Treuhand was set up to specifically destroy the successful East German businesses”. Yes sir. I felt it on my own skin since 1989 in Romania. EU declared that all of the communist industry was obsolete. “Energofag” was the key word. Means energy consumption too high for productivity!? The result was simple: Romania lost all their productive capacity in concrete, metalurgical, mecanichal areas. Now we proudly belong and need EU companies. And all of this happened under our noses, since their propaganda was better than our common sense.
Great video. We enjoyed it. Keep ’em coming.
I think the west has got away with so many atrocities in the last couple of decades it’s become almost normal and it’s genuinely shocked that Russia has stepped in to prevent them continuing. Had the Neo-Nazi militias targeted westerners, I’ve no doubt much of Ukraine would now be reduced to a pile of rubble by NATO.
It was all very well ethnically cleansing Russians in the Crimea and Donbass while those responsible thought that NATO would protect them, but I suspect there are more than a few worried militia men regretting getting involved and becoming rather apprehensive about the future.
It’s ironic that those in the west whose grandfather’s fought against Nazis should now be cheering on the same Nazis and criticize Russia who are now having to get rid of them again. It’s a strange world we live in.
Nazi Germany was not part of the western sphere of influence then. There was a power struggle between Great Britain, France and Germany to control Europe wich eventually led to two World wars. Some time later, the US simply joined the winning side.
Now that the entire Germany is an occupied territory, it has been assimilated into the collective West.
Nazism is just a tool to spread hate, and it is clearly working.
We should see past the nazi ideology and confront the real threat to the world: US hegemony.
Unfortunately US hegemony is also ideology.
Remember how Europe were sharp against S. Africa apartheid, releasing Nelson Mandela and held the high banner as an island in the world for human rights, to Europe’s moral decay and financial, military and political support today of the same apartheid in this case Ukraine.
The moral high ground quickly disappear when people see a dollar bill.
Were they against Apartheid? don’t think so it was the Soviet Union who were on the right side of History at the time,the Fascist Thatcher and her side kick Ronald Reagan supported the Apartheid Nazis,when the South Africans invaded Angola and created carnage with their puppet Savimbi,then when the Cubans became involved on the side of the MPLA and taught the Nazis a lesson Reagan and Thatcher were ranting on about how the Cubans have to leave Angola,after Mandela took power all the scum who had supported the Nazis wanted to be his best friend,i believe the first Country Mandela visited after taking power was Russia,he never forgot who his friends were.
Hitler’s Germany was supported by the US and UK for the purpose of a proxy war against the USSR and “the evils of communism”.
The US did not join the ‘winning side’ in WWII (the USSR).
Europe has not been assimilated, it has been covertly and overtly undermined and economically captured by the US, starting with lend-lease and the Marshall Plan.
Nazism is not a tool to spread hate, it is the most vicious form of facism. The US picked up where Hilter left off.
Bullcrap. If the USA wanted to help Germany defeat the USSR, why it provide lend-lease weapons and supplies to the latter, and not to the former?
That was before the US entered the war. After that then the USSR began to get lend-lease aid. Just as with Ukraine today the aid to the Soviets was meant to help the West in their war. The US couldn’t care less about saving the USSR. They sent the aid so as to help with the defeat of Germany,which they were fighting too.
Roosevelt goaded Japan into war so as to trigger war with Japan’s ally, Germany. If his administration had been genuinely anti-Soviet, it would have joined forces with Hitler, Bolshevism’s greatest foe.
It’s an error to assume the W2 era US policy set was not bifurcated.
See interalia Alperowitz “The Decision to Use the Bomb” wherein Groves is quoted as saying, during lend lease, “the bomb is [not for Japan] for Russia. Some might possibly see Groves’ words as insubordination or even treason.
They wanted to kill two birds with one stone. Europe and Germany fully decimated and Russia on it’s knees after fighting the Nazi’s. They almost got it… Yes the same money changers and their poodles USA and UK
The US wanted both sides to wear each other down, while it stood back, until the Soviets started really rolling westward. It looked like the Soviet forces could occupy all of Europe. So by the time Germany was defeated, the Soviets controlled the eastern half of it.
In WWI, the US also waited as the warring sides wore themselves down before getting involved.
Helped both.
War is an investment.
While other parties kill off each other, a war monger sits atop, and collects the dough, and souls.
November 11th in the “ United “ Kingdom is Remembrance Day when politicians and Senior `Military gather at the Cenotaph to commemorate those who sacrificed their lives in the fight against the Nazis.
It needs to be cancelled; there is a limit to the amount of hypocrisy people can stand.
“It’s ironic that those in the west whose grandfather’s fought against Nazis should now be cheering on the same Nazis and criticize Russia who are now having to get rid of them again. It’s a strange world we live in.”
I think it is pretty much like the last time around, the West role in WW1 and WW2 is not well understood in the west. In places in the western world the wests ‘fight’ against nazism consisted of betraying those who defeted the Nazis. Handing power back over to the fasists. See Italy, or any communist/socialist leaning country.
A historic moment – VVP explains the background to the re-integration of the DPR and LPR into the Russian Federation and then there is the signing ceremony for all parties involved.
Poutine : Le discours qui va tout changer – YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqfTx4ZOfAI
The inference is that the other, southern Oblasts will be part of a Novorossija, so they are associate states to Russia with full military protection (but one can assume they will eventually also wish to be part of the RF after what they have been through…)
For the moment Chernigiv and Sumy Oblasts are still in limbo…
Good. I hope they expand the hunt globally, and beyond the mere footsoldiers. I would like the creators of the Ukronazis to tremble as they pour themselves another drink, when they think of the Justice that is comming their way.
It seems the ukro-nazis (death cult) are working to create a nuclear disaster in Russian speaking territories in the former Ukraine. Which would affect Ukraine,Belarus,and Russia. It’s pastime that Russia “got off the stick” before that happens. Put on your big-boy pants and call the US and EU controllers of Ukraine and tell them directly that if their nazi stooges do that. Then the 88 nuclear plants in the US and the 103 nuclear plants in the EU will be made direct targets. And back that up by missile strikes close to the 2 nuclear power plants in West Ukraine as an object lesson. This issue is too important to the existence of the Russian people to be weak.Remember Putin’s words that he could not conceive of wanting a world without Russia.Don’t just talk,act.
Nuclear escalation is full hardy. We all die as a result. Better send a FOAB to Lwow and explain that this will be repeated every time there are missiles coming in at NPS.
Which is why it must be made “crystal clear” to the Western controllers of the Ukro-nazis that if Russia is to suffer a nuclear disaster so are they. Nothing else will get that message to them.The missile strikes “near” to the 2 West Ukraine nuclear plants will show that the US and EU plants can be struck. If they think Russia is just bluffing they will ignore them.
A strike on the ZNPP that releases a deadly nuclear cloud, is in fact a ‘nuclear first strike’.
Yes, you read that right. This is the stark message the insane collective West, NATZO, and the neo/libCONS must come to grips with now.
It must be a Cuban Missile Crisis cubed. -MLht
Great way to deal with the bad guys.
Pity US patriots arent doing it to those who also need it ………yet.
It seems there is a lot of work needed to be done inside Russia to punish 5th column Ukie supporters. A strong case for a full wartime revival of the Cheka can be made. Here is a particularly bad case that calls out for harsh punishment. It comes from of all places Crimea. Where it appears the authorities are not being anywhere near vigilant enough. I would suggest patriotic citizen action unless the authorities start doing their jobs better.The author’s response might be a tab too harsh,but I can understand his anger :
Sea of Azov, resort settlement Shchelkino, Crimea, karaoke bar “Crab”, a Ukrainian song is performed in support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with Javelins, warriors of light, tridents, etc.
Burn, piss on the building, those responsible to be executed in the city center by hanging or quartered live, the rest of the guests present in exile to the Donbass to restore the infrastructure. https://t.me/vicktop55/5657
Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t Russian troops occupying defensive positions surrounding the nuclear power plant? I think that’s the case. That means the Nazis are the side firing at the Russians. So, the Nazis are incurring the risk of missing the Russians and blowing up the power plant.
Given these facts, what’s the logic in blaming Russia for endangering the plant? If the West’s complaints about this situation are genuine, and not propaganda, then they’d be demanding that the Nazis refrain from firing in the direction of the plant.
Western hypocrisy – particularly from policy and media elites in English-language countries – is incredible. Think about it.
All along, the West has been decrying Russia for firing at Nazi positions that are surrounded by civilian settlements. On this score, the news is all about “Russian barbarians” slaughtering civilians. But, from the beginning, it’s been clear that the Nazis are deliberately establishing positions among civilians, including nursing homes, schools, and hospitals. The UN, Amnesty International, and the OSCE have published reports confirming that this is a preferred and deliberate tactic of the Nazi military. That is, to literally use civilians as human shields against Russian firepower.
In spite of this Nazi battle tactic, the West blames Russia, and not the Nazi army, for endangering civilians. According to Western logic, this means Russia is morally obligated to cease fire, even though Nazi troops are firing weapons from those civilian settlements.
The double-standards of the West are just mind boggling. Absolutely crazy.
«but aren’t Russian troops occupying defensive positions surrounding the nuclear power plant? I think that’s the case. That means the Nazis are the side firing at the Russians. So, the Nazis are incurring the risk of missing the Russians and blowing up the power plant»
The usual explanation is:
* The ukrainian government are targeting *the plant* (usually when the winds blow east towards Crimea or the Donbas) not the RF troops around it.
* There are two purposes for this, and the main one is the hope of triggering a trigger a NATO attack on the plant to secure it and return it to ukrainian government control, so the electricity produced by the plant can be redirected towards central and west Ukraine.
* The other purpose is to damage the plant so it cannot be used to supply electricity to the Donbas or Kherson or Crimea.
There is a very big reason for this, winter:
* The ukrainian fascist government is bankrupt, and it has no money to pay for sufficient supplies of fuel and electricity for winter, and anyhow most ukrainian in central and western Ukraine do not have the money to pay for heating or electricity. Please remember that most energy supplies to Ukraine were from the Russian Federation.
* The scarce supplies of heating and electricity in winter can either be used for the ukrainian government military, and then the civilians die in large numbers, or for the civilians, and then the military have to surrender.
* Even if NATO had the supplies to donate to Ukraine, most areas of central Ukraine are too far from NATO borders and Ukraine does not have transport capacity to deliver them in sufficient quantities.
* In any case NATO does not have sufficient supplies to donate to Ukraine because the RF is using “sanctions” to prevent the EU states from accumulating reserves during this summer, and they will have barely enough for themselves in winter.
* The RF will show ukrainians that this winter the ukrainians in Novorossya have heating, food, electricity, those in central Ukraine won’t.
* Therefore the ukrainian government want NATO to either capture the nuclear power plant so they can feed electricity to their population, or to damage it so the plant cannot supply electricity to Novorossya, or contaminates it with radioactive stuff.
What most people don’t get is that the RF “Special Military Operation” is not about an invasion of Ukraine, but a *siege* of Ukraine, destroying (or capturing, as in the case of the plant as Zaporizhzhia or the ports on the sea of Azov and the Black Sea) ukrainian logistics so it has to surrender because it has run out of food, fuel, electricity and munitions during winter.
Part of the siege has been a limited operation to occupy Novorossya ensure that the whole of Novorossya is protected from the consequences of the siege and from ukrainian vengeance.
My impression is that the next RF step during the autumn will be to capture or neutralize the ports of Nikolaev and Odessa, and then let General Winter do the job.
My expectation is that this winter another 10-15 million ukrainians, hungry and freezing, will try to emigrate to the EU, causing mayhem in it, and probably several millions will start leaving the Ukraine in autumn as they realize that they won’t have fuel, food or heating in winter.
«a *siege* of Ukraine, destroying (or capturing, as in the case of the plant as Zaporizhzhia or the ports on the sea of Azov and the Black Sea) ukrainian logistics so it has to surrender because it has run out of food, fuel, electricity and munitions during winter.»
That is part of what what the ukrainian fascist government did to the Donbas “terrorists” as they cut off all supplies from Ukraine of food, fuel and electricity to the Donbas, and after having been defeated militarily by the Donbas army they put under siege the Donbas that way, and kept bombing its civilian areas to kill “terrorists” or scare them away to ethnically cleanse them from the Donbas. Let’s see how the fascist ruthenians and the central ukrainians like it when a lesser form of that treatment is given to them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas
“3,393 civilians killed (349 in 2016–2021)
13,100–13,300 killed; 29,500–33,500 wounded overall
414,798 Ukrainians internally displaced; 925,500 fled abroad”
1.5 million refugees out of 3-4 million before the war of aggression against the Donbas that started on 9 May 2014 in Mariupol.
«The double-standards of the West are just mind boggling.»
It is just the standard difference between (our) “freedom-fighters” and (their) “terrorists”. So for “home front morale” purposes the NATO elites want to tell their populations that the “terrorist” “orcs” are bombing an “ukrainian” nuclear plant (even if it is now russian), just as they have been telling their populations that the “terrorist” “orcs” attacked the ukrainians in the Donbas in 2014.
Thomas Jefferson, 1814: “I deplore with you the putrid state into which our newspapers have passed, and the malignity, the vulgarity, & mendacious spirit of those who write for them: […] these ordures are rapidly depraving the public taste, and lessening it’s relish for sound food. as vehicles of information, and a curb on our functionaries they have rendered themselves useless by forfeiting all title to belief.”
George Orwell, 1943: “Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. […] I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various ‘party lines’.”
George Orwell, 1945: “Victor Raikes, the Tory M.P., who is an able and outspoken reactionary, made a speech which I should have considered a good one if it had referred only to Poland and Jugoslavia. But after dealing with those two countries he went on to speak about Greece, and then suddenly black became white, and white black. […] There is no one who is able to say – at least, no one who has the chance to say in a newspaper of big circulation – that this whole dirty game of spheres of influence, quislings, purges, deportation, one-party elections and hundred per cent plebiscites is morally the same whether it is done by ourselves, the Russians or the Nazis.”
Harold MacMillan, 1963: “It is wonderful not to read the newspapers — except a rapid glance through The Times. It makes such a difference. One feels better, mentally and morally, not to be absorbing unconsciously, all that steady stream of falsehood, innuendo, poison which makes up the Press today, apart from purely informative sections.“
Historians can trace the rise of newspapers to happen with the rise of political parties, in England circa 1700. Already by 1730 the Grub Street Journal was satirizing the industry. For that matter, the graffiti remnants of Pompeii have a significant amount of political sloganeering (though perhaps not so numerous as the Roman swear words extant), which likely was a similar phenomenon of propaganda intersecting politics.
It’s a similar subject.
Today’s headline in Slovenian media. Ukraine will search for and kill all that Russians who are shelling nuclear power plant. They lie so much that even forget of a simple logic. Russia has now a very large power plant. For free. The value is in billions of euros or dollars. Russia will not return it, so when war will be over the plant will sell electricity. New Ukraine will have neutral government and huge debts, so they will buy electricity there and sell Ukrainian to Eu where prices are high. It’s absurd for a country who advances slowly but constantly to destroy its new war gift which will bring a lot of money in the future.
I don’t think that Zelenski will chase anyone. He and his government will have to run. I’m wondering what lie will be writen if he would be captured?
We have been witnessing for 8 days the definitive moral collapse of the western ruling world. American & European support – sneaky or passive – for the suicidal game of the Kievan army with the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, relayed by the media⬇️1/n
… disqualifies, if they weren’t, the Bidens, Johnsons, Scholzs, Macrons. The International Atomic Energy Agency contents itself with worried declarations and the Secretary General of the UN espouses the Western thesis. Very few Americans and Europeans realize..2/n
… of the seriousness of the situation. Let’s recap: 1. The Russians cannot bomb any location they are standing in. You can ignore any media that utters such nonsense. 2. When they fixed part of the Ukrainian army in February-March in the region…3/n
…of kyiv, in order to be able to quickly seize the regions north of the Crimea, the Russians took control of the Chernobyl site. There is an old European rule in the practice of war: certain objectives are sanctuary. Opponents engage….4/n
…to respect a minimum of rules. Keeping the country’s nuclear power plants out of conflict should be part of it – when you have a modicum of common sense and survival instinct. The Russians occupied the Zaporozhye power plant very early, also for this reason – to hold it…5/n
…away from conflict. But 3. the Kievan government that emerged from Maidan does not look towards the Westphalian European tradition; its two models are American-style warfare and fascism. We will therefore not be surprised, in itself, that a Kievan army trained for 8 years..6/n
…by the Americans is inclined to disregard any safeguards. Especially given the strong influence within it of the neo-Nazis who, at a time when the cause appears to be compromised, can refer to the Neronian order of March 19, 1945 – Hitler ordered the destruction of all…7/n
… German infrastructure, to drag the country into the abyss with it – kyiv plays the “twilight of the gods”, in the form of a second Chernobyl, in particular to take revenge on these Ukrainian populations in the East who do not are waiting for one thing, the Russian victory…8/n
…(they have long been loyal to the Ukrainian state; but their willingness to “try Ukraine” has been eroded and then outright swept away by the behavior of the Kievans). It is understandable that kyiv wants at all costs to prevent the holding of referendums, in the fall, on…9/n
…the attachment to Russia. What better than to provoke a new Chernobyl to hinder the process naturally resulting from the Ukrainian refusal to negotiate seriously with the Russian side – the future loss of at least 20% of Ukrainian territory in addition to Crimea?..10/n
… and 4. we understand very well that the Americans, with their traditional lack of scruples, help the Ukrainians with precise strikes (hit for example nuclear waste stocks) and that they push for a worst-case scenario which would allow them to return.. 11/n
..the situation as the bet to bring down Russia is apparently lost. 5. It is less easy to understand at first sight that the European Union fits into this scenario. Of course there is voluntary servitude in the USA (registered in the texts from the Treaty of Maastricht)… 12/n
…but he hides behind the unworthy and irresponsible attitude of a Macron, a Scholz, a Josep Borrell, something else: wouldn’t a major nuclear accident be welcome to discredit a source of energy in full reconquest of the spirits throughout the world…13/n
…and where Russia and China are today more and more clearly the leading countries? In reality, the deeper we dig, the more we will see the convergence of Zelenski’s nihilism and that of a West whose elites and “hyper-graduates” are fascinated by the prospect of a..14/n
…modern apocalypse (pandemics, climatic catastrophe, nuclear incident etc…). 6.People in the know say both that a “second Chernobyl” is unlikely (but not impossible) given the crash tests that presided over the construction of the plant; but…15/n
…they fear a medium-intensity accident, following shots that would cause damage, for example by releasing radiation from their stored waste. Even without going as far as the resulting irradiation in a circumference of several hundred kilometers, …16/n
…already the scenario of a Ukraine largely deprived of electricity following a shutdown of the plant is a disaster. We are at the mercy of a failed Russian interception of Ukrainian fire. Here we are back to our starting point. We live…17/n
…live the final moral collapse of the West and its loss of legitimacy in the international community. NATO was founded to defend the free world against totalitarianism. And here she is engaged in a fascistic headlong rush. The European Union…18/n
…is theoretically in the service of peace. And yet, these two sets – which largely overlap – are in a logic of “adding war to war” and tolerate or even encourage “Ukrainian roulette” with the central Zaporozhye. The experience…19/n.
.. of the totalitarianisms of the 20th century should however have taught us that regimes based on lies are collapsing. What is NATO worth now? What is the word of a Macron, that of a Scholz? Not only should the Free French hope that the worst will be avoided…20/n
…in Zaporozhye. (If we are Christians, we have a prophetic duty to pray intensely and, for those whose state duty allows it, to fast to avert the announced apocalypse). But we must also begin to prepare minds for the inevitable…21/n
…collapse of NATO, three decades after the Warsaw Pact; to that of the European Union, which will experience the same fate as COMECON; at the end of the ruling caste in the West. Of course, this will not happen by itself. We must look to the future…22/n
…of our societies with the same eyes as a Solzhenitsyn or a Havel saw the future of Soviet communism half a century ago. We have a duty of truth in the face of the lies of power – and its follies. Western Progressivism – which I prefer to call…23/n
…”gray fascism” is no better than its Soviet predecessor. (Or its Chinese neo-communist contemporary; that will be dealt with another time). If some doubted it, the cynical game with the Zaporozhye power plant provides undeniable proof. And since… 24/n
…we are fortunate to be able to refer to the peaceful revolutions of 1989 “from the Danube to the Urals”, let us begin to prepare ours, in the west of the old continent. Free French, let’s get together! n/n – n=25 END OF THREAD
Original in french: sorry very long, but very interesting
https://lecourrierdesstrateges.fr/2022/08/13/lotan-aura-t-elle-servi-pour-finir-a-provoquer-un-second-tchernobyl-en-ukraine-par-edouard-husson/
«the convergence of Zelenski’s nihilism and that of a West whose elites and “hyper-graduates” are fascinated by the prospect of a modern apocalypse (pandemics, climatic catastrophe, nuclear incident etc…)»
Ahhh, there are many americans, especially in the military, especially in the Air Force, that are praying for the end of times and the rapture, including one GW Bush:
http://sedulia.blogs.com/sedulias_translations/2009/05/bush-chirac-gog-and-magog.html
«In 2003, Thomas Römer, a theology professor at the University of Lausanne [Switzerland], received a telephone call from the Elysée Palace [in Paris, home of the President of France]. Jacques Chirac’s advisers wanted to know more about Gog and Magog… two mysterious names that had been spoken by George W. Bush as he was trying to persuade France to go to war at his side in Iraq.»
«Bush is said to have declared to Chirac that Gog and Magog were at work in the Middle East, and the Biblical Prophecies were being accomplished. It was a few weeks before the intervention in Iraq. The French president, to whom the names of Gog and Magog meant nothing, was stupefied.»
This was reported directly by T Römer and confirmed by J Chirac in a book-interview with JC Maurice:
http://www2.unil.ch/unicom/allez_savoir/as39/pages/pdf/4_Gog_Magog.pdf
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=I3Qz8iCh6t8C&pg=PT40
Also, not everybody in the USA elites is as moderate and sensible as GW Bush, there are much weirder people:
https://medium.com/s/futurehuman/survival-of-the-richest-9ef6cddd0cc1
«I just sat there at a plain round table as my audience was brought to me: five super-wealthy guys — yes, all men — from the upper echelon of the hedge fund world. After a bit of small talk, I realized they had no interest in the information I had prepared about the future of technology. They had come with questions of their own. […] Finally, the CEO of a brokerage house explained that he had nearly completed building his own underground bunker system and asked, “How do I maintain authority over my security force after the event?”
The Event. That was their euphemism for the environmental collapse, social unrest, nuclear explosion, unstoppable virus, or Mr. Robot hack that takes everything down.
This single question occupied us for the rest of the hour. […]
They were not interested in how to avoid a calamity; they’re convinced we are too far gone. For all their wealth and power, they don’t believe they can affect the future»
For that reason many in the USA elites are fascinated by Yamantau Mountain, because they think that RF elites think the same. BTW sometimes I wonder whether the USSR found the “vara of the iranians”, which is probably buried in the southern Urals (even if most people think it was in the Tajik mountains).
@Blissex
This topic of Gog and Magog has been discussed by me on this blog many times. The truth of the matter is this is all hogwash. Ezekiel 38 and 39 has nothing to do with either Russia or Germany! Nor does it have anything to do with the current middle east events or even Israel. One can see my book on the subject lies all lies by Gerry Fox for another explanation more in line with Biblical scripture.
It’s highly dangerous though that people like Bush and others actually believe this!! It has to stop and stop immediately!!!!
Cheers
America and its satellites need to be denazified as well.
Yes, we can!
Hunt them down til the end of time. Vast Russian resources can easily afford such adventures.
Bring Death to scum at every corner on Earth.
Z
At the end most of western politicians are nothing more but opportunists. We will see lots of turncoats during next 12 months. They just like their MSM soul mates don’t wanna be losers. And when most folks have not longer than half year political memory this makes turncoating much more easier. EU is dump pit (or deportation) for national politicians, most of them have been not very succesful.
The bastards have bombed Crimea again going off todays reports,sabotage,would not be surprised if Nato were directly responsible,they are attacking Russia,its time Russia took the gloves off and blew Western Ukraine away and took out the vipers nest in Kiev.