The Pentagon’s more aggressive military approach
Here is a short timeline of the Pentagon taking the presidential commander-in-chief power from Trump.
The ultimatums came on March 1.
On March 1, 2017 the Atlantic’s article “Trump and the Generals”
announced that Trump’s military leaders “increasingly sound like they’re working for a different president altogether.”
They complained about the lack of funding, even after Trump pledged to give them additional $54 billion that were cut from the budget of non-military agencies. Right after the budget announcement, it became immediately obvious that the Pentagon considered this sum to be ridiculously small for their ambitions.
They also balked at Trump’s election promise to fire many “Obama’s generals.”
One of those generals openly voicing their opposition to Trump’s policies is General Tony Thomas of U.S. Special Operations Command. He reportedly said that “he wanted Americans to understand those elite counterterrorism operations are occurring nightly.” Meaning that they not just need more money, but more independence to operate.
As per the Atlantic, the “generals don’t much like to talk about “winning” against terrorism. They understand and tell the public and congress that the United States is in a 10-, 30-, 100- year battle against a multi-generational ideological war of ideas that goes far beyond the military battlefield.”
The article links to the Center for a New American Security’s publication: Virtual Caliphate – Defeating ISIL on the Physical Battlefield Is Not Enough.
The same article in the Atlantic also went on listing some other problems that the Generals had with Trump.
“Over and over, Trump has heard his generals, then gone to the microphone or Twitter and ignored them—a pattern he began on the campaign trail. In September, Trump said he’d likely place new generals in charge of the ISIS war and that the ones in charge had been “embarrassing” under Obama, who he said had marginalized them.”
They complained about his “unpredictability” and even threaten that some of them will resign in protests.
“In the next few months, Trump will either order a way forward against ISIS that U.S. military leaders offer up (and likely is not much different from the war underway), or he’ll order some radical departure from what he’s offered this week, which may require that some generals resign their commissions.”
“Either he’ll slash money from the State Department and pull back America’s diplomatic and development presence abroad—including money related to counter-terrorism—or he’ll expand it to help end this fight and prevent further conflict, as so many generals have suggested.”
“Either he’ll tone down the anti-Muslim rhetoric, like McMaster wants, or he’ll keep it up.”
“Either he’ll proclaim to the world the importance of a free and adversarial press to democracy, exemplified nowhere better than in America, or he won’t.”
“Americans can pick their own metric, but one place to watch is Eastern Europe. In the last year, former President Barack Obama and NATO moved thousands of American troops to Russia’s border, with more tanks, aircraft, ships, and missiles. If Trump really wants to make nice with Putin, he could pull all of that back, or cut the U.S. nuclear arsenal.”
“What “the generals” say matters, and what Trump says about them and their advice is confusing.”
If that sounded like an ultimatum, it was, because it was accompanied with an open threat of disobedience delivered via the Daily Beast.
| On the same day, March 1, the Daily Beast published an article written by Kimberly Dozier, Generals May Launch New ISIS Raids Without Trump’s OK.
This article was published with updates and comments from Central Command, with the following statements: “The White House is considering delegating more authority to the Pentagon” “President Donald Trump has signaled that he wants his defense secretary, retired Marine Gen. Jim Mattis, to have a freer hand to launch time-sensitive missions quickly, ending what U.S. officials say could be a long approval process under President Barack Obama that critics claimed stalled some missions by hours or days.”
As you have noticed the link to 2016 material titled “CALL OF DUTY The Secret Movement to Draft General James Mattis for President Gen. James Mattis doesn’t necessarily want to be president—but that’s not stopping a group of billionaire donors from hatching a plan to get him there.” It’s reminded us that Jim Mattis was endorsed by some ” anonymous group of conservative billionaires” to run in the presidential race “to confront Donald Trump.” “Mattis, who is also nicknamed the “warrior monk” for his contemplative devotion to the military arts, would be a fallback option for anti-Trump forces.” Now, this anti-Trump force man has taken an unelected position of the secretary of Defense. Let’s keep this very important detail in mind. The article says that the Pentagon may start launching operations without the Presidential approval in “areas outside of the declared war zones.” “In declared war zones, U.S. commanders have the authority to make such calls, but outside such war zones, …. it can take permissions all the way up to the Oval Office to launch a drone strike or a special-operations team.” “Despite the controversy, Trump has signaled that he wants to operate more like the CEO he was in the private sector in such matters, and delegate even more power to Mattis, which may mean rewriting one of President Barack Obama’s classified Presidential Policy Directives on potentially lethal operations in countries where the U.S. is not officially involved in combat.” “Trump officials believe loosening the permissions process can help turn up the heat against ISIS—and counterterrorist-focused agencies like the military’s Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) are lining up new targets in anticipation of more numerous and more rapid approvals.” The new model of command is “pre-delegating authority to Mattis, that authority could be pushed much further down the chain of command—all the way down to the three-star general who runs JSOC.” The result will be “the elite force will be able to move into action, informing the national-security apparatus of the operation but not having to wait for permission.” Cutting through this heavy bureaucratic American doublespeak, the White House will be informed, but would have no commanding authority over the US military.
News in Brief March 14th, the US National Nuclear Security Administration field tested the modernized B61-12 gravity nuclear bomb in Nevada. April 7, Liberty Passion, loaded with US military vehicles, moored at Aqaba Main Port, Jordan On April 7th the Pentagon US bombed Syria’s main command center in fight against terrorists April 10, United States Deploying Forces At Syrian-Jordanian Border April 11, The US Air Force might start forcing pilots to stay in the service against their will, according to the chief of the military unit’s Air Mobility Command. April 12, President Donald Trump has signed the US approval for Montenegro to join NATO April 13, NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg announced the alliance’s increased deployment in Eastern Europe On April 13th, the Pentagon bombed Afghanistan. The US military has bombed Afghanistan with its GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb (MOAB) April 13, the US-led coalition bombed the IS munitions and chemical weapons depot in Deir ez-Zor killing hundreds of people April 14, The Arleigh Burke-class, guided-missile destroyer USS Stethem (DDG 63) has been deployed to the South China Sea April 14, the US sent F-35 jets to Europe April 14, Washington failed to attend the latest international conference hosted by Moscow, where 11 nations discussed ways of bringing peace to Afghanistan. The US branded it a “unilateral Russian attempt to assert influence in the region.” April14, the US has positioned two destroyers armed with Tomahawk cruise missiles close enough to the North Korean nuclear test site to act preemptively On April 16th, the US army makes largest deployment of troops to Somalia since the 90s. |
On Saturday April 15, FoxNews posted an article titled, Trump gives generals more freedom to make decisions in ISIS fight, Trump reiterates confidence in US troops after MOAB strike.
It’s important to realize that this Trump’s decision to give more freedom to the US generals to decide where to start a war, or as it’s been dubbed “the New Approach” had come after the fact that was “on display this week in Afghanistan, where Gen. John Nicholson, head of the U.S.-led coalition there, decided to use one of the military’s biggest nonnuclear bombs—a Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb, or MOAB.”
After the MOAB was dropped, repeating without the presidential approval, the Media came out heralding this bombing of Afghanistan as “America’s top military commanders are implementing the vision articulated by Defense Secretary Jim Mattis: U.S. military commanders to make more battlefield decisions on their own.”
“A senior administration official said Mr. Trump didn’t know about the weapon’s use until it had been dropped.”
“Mr. Mattis “is telling them, ‘It’s not the same as it was, you don’t have to ask us before you drop a MOAB,’” the senior defense official said. “Technically there’s no piece of paper that says you have to ask the president to drop a MOAB. But last year this time, the way [things were] meant, ‘I’m going to drop a MOAB, better let the White House know.’”
“There’s nothing formal, but it is beginning to take shape,” a senior U.S. defense official said Friday. “There is a sense among these commanders that they are able to do a bit more—and so they are.”
“While military commanders complained about White House micromanagement under former President Barack Obama, they are now being told they have more freedom to make decisions without consulting Mr. Trump. Military commanders around the world are being encouraged to stretch the limits of their existing authorities when needed, but to think seriously about the consequences of their decisions.”
“The more muscular military approach is expanding…”
“Mr. Mattis has sketched out such a global plan, but the administration has yet to agree on it. While the political debate continues, the military is being encouraged to take more aggressive steps … around the world.”
In conclusion:
While the situation is taking its shape, I encourage you to research and to think over the following questions.
This incoming information sounds like a proof of what I have been suspecting all along that the US military has been run by the groups of non-governmental private organizations. My suspicions were confirmed by Rosa Brooks‘ book “How Everything Became War and the Military Became Everything.”
It also helped when in February of this year the Washington Post posted her opinion about an ongoing military coup. “A former Defense Department official under the Obama administration has raised the specter of a military coup to remove President Donald Trump from power.
“In an editorial penned for Foreign Policy, senior Pentagon policy official Rosa Brooks publicly suggested a military insurrection against the Trump administration may be the only option to oust one of the most divisive presidents in American history.”
If memory serves me right, in 2011 was a distinct threat issued by Steve Pieczenik on YouTube to Obama and his administration that the military and intelligence stopped considering the presidential power to be legitimate and went on making themselves to be the real government.
This tells me that no matter who takes the presidency, the US armed forces and the intelligence community refuse to recognize the country’s civilian government.
What does this actually mean for the rest of us?
It means that any negotiations and agreements with the US president and the Secretary of State are useless, That would explain the complete lack on interest of Putin to talk to any of them. The Kremlin didn’t even release a statement about Putin’s meeting with Tillerson, and there are rumors that it was nothing, but an exchange of strong language on both sides.
So, the US military takes hostage an entire planet by positioning themselves near China, NK and Russia in the Far East, and near Russia in Europe and threatening to start a nuclear conflict with many nuclear countries at once, if they don’t get something.
What do they actually want, and from whom? Do they blackmail Russia and China? Do they also blackmail the EU? Or, do they blackmail someone in the US? Are they looking for money? Are they looking for gold? Do they want the official dejure recognition of the military government? Or, are they demanding the write off the US debt?
How are they going to get away with this?
Two days ago the Wall Street Journal made an announcement that the Pentagon was granted the “freedom of initiative.”
This announcement was noticed in Russia.
If the US armed forces went rogue and the wsj just announced this, would it be the legal reason for the UN members to neutralize their bases around the world?
Who are now in control of NATO?
Are they keeping Trump hostage and not allowing him to leave the territory of the US?
What about “neuchtenka” like the PMCs, the Special Forces, (GRS)/OGA, SADs, and others?
Does this mean that the US has no civilian government, and that’s why they are going to shut the government down at the end of April?
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Scott Humor
Director of Research and Development
author of The enemy of the State
Trump is a stupid man, there is all to it. What did he think it going to happen with a cabinet full of blood thirsty generals? Even I could see it coming.
Trump does not deserve your sympathy. He is a idiot. He is the one set up the current situation.
Could Trump be giving these clowns just enough rope to hang themselves?
seems possible.
Nope. Reverse. It’s Trump who has been given a coil of rope.
Can we offiically declare America to be a military dictatorship?
Perhaps, the US military’s plans to usurp the civilian government are finally coming out of the closet?
Is the U.S. Military Planning to Take Over America?http://www.rutherford.org/multimedia/on_target/is_the_u.s._military_planning_to_take_over_america?utm_source=The+Rutherford+Institute&utm_campaign=0c1071971e-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_04_12&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_d7ffde3304-0c1071971e-42135461
Hi Scott,
I sent you an email about Cambridge Analytica, wargaming and AI (plus tested as an expression of mass consciousness/data diving from the web. It most definitely has implications for colored revolutions and Cold War 2.0.
Trump is a bully and he is all talk and no action. Recently he seems to have soften and has lost his temperament. Maybe the secret services have evidence against him and are able to blackmail him. He is certainly in deep shit, there could be illegal real estate deals, partying with prostitutes, to other illegal activities. Trump is an easy target as he is a pampered billionaire, a bipolar narcissist with perverted tendencies.
I suspect that a true military coup was not necessary. Trump simply folded and sold out to the Neocons. In fact, Trump ‘being a businessman’ probably made that process all the easier. The Neocons just gave him an offer that he could not refuse, “Either do what we say, or else…”
Nonsense to Military Coup. They are merely frustrated over the years of pathetic Obama oversight and are reacting to being off that leash.
Trump has amassed about 10-15% of the Presidency.
He is in a tight box and is doing whatever he has to move forward.
The strikes in Syria and Afghanistan were predictable.
He will do something in North Korea if Kim goes over the line.
The US Military is built to lose long wars. It can not handle a nation like Russia.
It also is discovering that it can’t handle a nation like China.
The US has the wrong weapons and wrong training to take on first world nations.
Even Iran, now with some good air defenses is a dicey option.
It all works on paper and in simulations. But reality is disastrous for the mighty men of the Pentagon.
So, they can’t take casualties. They have risked nothing in either strikes, firing from distances so safe as to laughable as “combat”.
Do the men of the Pentagon want to dominate the globe with their AirSeaLandSpaceCyber commands? Of course, if they can do it with virtually no loss of manpower to the regulars, and few lost machines or ships.
So, that leaves them nations with no air defenses and irregular forces like AQ, Taliban and ISIS to stand off and strike.
Look at these mighty men of the Pentagon. Clustered with 28 nations of NATO, the four eyes in lockstep, the Arab-Israeli shotgun marriage alliance and still they scare no one. The Russian MOD called them out on the pathetic show of force.
And the mere cancellation of the deconfliction agreement prompted their allies to stay on the tarmac.
Kim looked them in the eye, spit at Trump and his limp dick military armada and fired his celebratory missile.
This is almost as good as “Team America World Police”. Derka derka!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPBX47zSktc
Is the US dangerous? Worst terror military in history. What’s the total since WWII?
30 million dead? Exceptional!
But these military mediocrities juiced, just like ISIS, on meth (Go pills), are not going to start WWIII. Though an accident might happen the way they are thrust at their “enemies”.
Taking over the government is totally outside the US military imagination. That’s for fiction writers. Will they bog down in adventures? Of course. That’s what they do. Africa is calling and McMaster and Mattis are saying “Yes”. They want to redo Afghanistan. They want to push Russian and China around in Afghan and Pakistan. They want to rule the ME and NA. Run that tab. It’s about 3 Trillion for Trump’s first term. Which will seal him off as a one-term failure of epic proportions.
Not including the disasters on three continents. And that’s without North Korea in the mix.
And if he doesn’t push China around in the South China Sea, the US Navy will be incensed. So, how does that end?
This is a Spring and Summer War Spectacular starring Donald and the Generals.
It will be ended like a show on TV that runs 6 weeks. No support for wars, no money for wars, no victories in any of these wars. Trump will switch to some other script.
This would have gone over big four years ago.
Americans want ISIS crushed, AQ extinguished.
There is none of that in this Military under Mattis and McMaster.
Both are excuse makers for radical Islam. They voice the same policies as the Liberals and Obama. Americans are really alert and upset by these two warmongers who represent the same lunacy as McCain.
It’s a travesty. Trump can’t sell it. And the bodies haven’t started coming home to Dover.
They have taken over what matters as to power decisions.
And if a major mistake occurs by the military, then a mere MSM ”narrative” will fix it. Minor mistakes, they can deal with that.
Well understood, will try to fix it in the minds of american sheeple.
Success guaranteed.
He lost nothing; he never had it!
“he never had it ” is a primary false argument, anonymous.
Because the Loss really occurs when the Americans who voted for trump believed his words and that focus would turn from easy warmongering to
home economy and people affairs (which is made possible with foreign stability).
An actual loss has materialized soon as this belief was shattered to pieces.
The Saker:
“Are they looking for gold? Do they want the official dejure recognition of the military government? Or, are they demanding the write off the US debt?”
You said it. Americans – they are like spoiled children – they are very bad losers. There is nothing as bad in America than to a loser. And when child happens to be lousy and spoiled and he looses every teacher in classroom knows what will happen next. Teacher can handle 12 years old spoiled rascal but when that rascal is big guy with full of muscles (though he’s stupid as old boot) things are pretty dangerous. Teacher need policy. The problem is there is no policy on town. Or if there is rascal will likely destroy himself and whole town.
This article was written by Scott
There lots of pretexts like “war on terror”, “democracy”, “human rights”, “liberty” and all kind of every day bullshit. But down on the bottom line , small text (these in contracts what people never tend to read though they are the most important) there is PAPER DOLLAR **) note.
Saker is likely about as old as i am so he might remember how suddenly in early 1970’s America lost war on real economy. They couldn’t compete with German and Asian products – they were done. When i was shorter than 1 meter kid i saw my father repairing American cars. After mid 1960’s almost all American products disappeared from European stories: no cars, no tv, no radios, no machine tools… They just couldn’t compete. Then came Nixon Shock (1971) and after that US real economic growth halted. If you have checked reliable realistic statistics of US medium wages they are near the level of 1973 now. What really has continued to grow is fake virtual economy. In UK things are as bad or even worse. Luftwaffe would have been envy to neo liberalism.
So when you see American grunts in sandbox and ships sending Happy Passover to Muslim people in form of Tomahawks, you must understand, this all is done in the name of holy paper dollar.
Exactly, Mathias, that’s ultimately all there is to it,
It the sole reason ISIS, the U$ Armed Forces, Pussy Riot, Boko Haram, NATO, and so forth are trying to terrorize and intimidate the world. To keep the whole world enslaved to the Roth-child mob (Nazi BIS Basel, Fed, €U) and its worthless ‘money’ (toilet paper).which they massively issue, ‘print’ out of thin air, causing massive inflation, and has the whole world slaving for them, completely poisening, ruining, destroying the world in the process, rat-race as well (since 17th c.).
Yes,our obsession with threats of war and nukes is exactly what they want.
This is all about Israel and You Know Who.
Divide and rule.
Although it is a difficult subject, it is worth understanding the world’s monetary system and it’s monopoly by You Know Who.
I think it was J Edgar Hoover who said that if it was explained to the population there would be a revolution overnight.
I think you’re referring to Henry Ford, Little Black Duck. It was Henry Ford and it was about banking. The quote: “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
Sad to say, I think it’s time to get rid of US in every possible manner.
They are a danger for ALL mankind including themselves. Who knows tomorrow who will be pointed as the enemy with a fantasy pretext.
I’m sorry for the majority of good american citizens out there but if they are unable to take back their government on an HUMAN an SANE track (simply human and sane, nothing more, because this behavior is unhuman and insane), someone else has to.
If nothing else works I hope in a quick, total war that will create so much problems inside the US such for a LONG time they will simply have not the resources nor the willing to embark in foreign adventures.
Larch….
there are a few death cult mainstream religions out there and at least one of them might be ready eschatalogically to false flag us into ww3…do you might skip the mandatory for your head reliance on rational thinkers and take into account instead the likely actions of mad men and tribes with genuine eschatalogical needs because they have a say this time heh.
A military dictatorship might be what America needs right now. And I say that with reference to the apt analogy of giving a Stage 4 terminal cancer victim a gun to shoot themselves with.
The only thing that Trump really need and want is as bunch of people who applause him. Thats all, the reason does’nt even matter at all.
Once you have understood this behavior you can predict what he will do. The only thing you have to know is what kind of guys surrounds him and what they like him to do.
The reason for this odd behavior is simple: Trump is dump as a dead kow.
His “knowledge” is simple as well: When they applause me it must be right.
Trump will do what ever war party wants. He may turn to munk or communist, it doesn’t matter. All he cares about is staying 3½ years at White House. He’s a clown. Perhaps some times his own real ideas are same as those of war party but these are few exception. I don’t know what his real ideas are. Does he have them at all? Or does it even mean anything?
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/us-power-will-decline-under-trump-says-futurist-who-predicted-soviet-collapse
“Galtung warned that the decline of American power on the world stage would probably have a domestic impact that would undermine the internal cohesion of the United States.”
Perhaps we will later understand better that the last stage of decline of The Empire means reactionary fascist short period for USA. That’s Galtung’s prediction too.
” But the main book setting out Galtung’s fascinating forecast for the US is his 2009 book, The Fall of the American Empire—and then What?
The book sets out a whopping 15 “synchronizing and mutually reinforcing contradictions” afflicting the US, which he says will lead to US global power ending by 2020—within just four years. Galtung warned that during this phase of decline, the US was likely to go through a phase of reactionary “fascism”.
He argued that American fascism would come from a capacity for tremendous global violence; a vision of American exceptionalism as the “fittest nation”; a belief in a coming final war between good and evil; a cult of the strong state leading the fight of good against evil; and a cult of the “strong leader”. “
In practice, US presidents do not have control over Pentagon. Therefore there is no way Trump could have lost it.
Lots right here.
On the Trump military budget increase though, my understanding is that it is not a 10% increase but a 3% one. Obama accounting games took a big chunk out of the official military budget and then gave them back as temporary rebates. These rebates of about 7% are now gone.
So we have gone from Obama pretending to spend less than the real number to Trump pretending to increase the amount by a big %. Funny that.
I really love this website. Always very interesting articles and points if view.
And the comment section is also of exceptionally high quality, mostly.. it’s one of the very few comment sections I actually read, :)
I’ve saved a bunch of the comments here in my archive:
Is the US dangerous? Worst terror military in history. What’s the total since WWII?
30 million dead? Exceptional!
The Unholy PetroDollar$$
That’s ultimately all there is to it,
It the sole reason ISIS, the U$ Armed Forces, Pussy Riot, Boko Haram, NATO, and so forth are trying to terrorize and intimidate the world.
To keep the whole world enslaved to the Rothschild mob (Nazi BIS Basel, Fed, €U) and its worthless ‘money’ (toilet paper), which they massively issue,
‘print’ out of thin air,
causing massive inflation, and has the whole world slaving for them, completely poisoning, ruining, destroying the world in the process, rat-race as well (since 17th c.).
Sad to say, I think it’s time to get rid of US in every possible manner.
They are a danger for ALL mankind including themselves. Who knows tomorrow who will be pointed as the enemy with a fantasy pretext.
I’m sorry for the majority of good american citizens out there but if they are unable to take back their government on an HUMAN an SANE track (simply human and sane, nothing more, because this behavior is unhuman and insane), someone else has to.
If nothing else works I hope in a quick, total war that will create so much problems inside the US such for a LONG time they will simply have not the resources nor the willing to embark in foreign adventures.
A military dictatorship might be what America needs right now. And I say that with reference to the apt analogy of giving a stage 4 terminal cancer victim a gun to shoot themselves with.
“No choice but war” is so easy when your send other people’s children to fight/die in them. Cowards, the whole lot of the Washington/Brussels/Tel Aviv/London/Rothschild chickenhawk cabal.
How many Rothschilds died in WW2?
One.
The former Catholic wife of a lesser Rothschild who was left behind when the rest of the European Rothschilds ran away to the USA.
Every U.S president is a puppet president. There are powerful interests and individuals behind the scenes who form and shape the policies of the U.S government. They will not allow a clown like Trump to change the U.S defence strategy.
Trump was very belligerent during the primaries and the US election campaign and adopted a populist-nationalist rhetoric. But now he seems to have shit his pants. He is a puppet who follows what the deep state operatives order him to do.
Was he genuine before he got elected ? It does not matter at all. But with Trump you could never know if he was telling the truth or not.
Civilian control over the Pentagon was ‘lost’ as far back as 1993. Or at least it was shown to be lost during the Clinton administration and has never been shown as being found since.
During Clinton, there were a couple of moments where the White House thought that as Commander-in-Chief he could tell the Pentagon what to do. One was right at the beginning of the Clinton term, the other a few years later.
The most obvious was the first. Clinton got identity politics votes by promising to end discrimination against gays in the military. He tired it, and the Pentagon chiefs told him to go stuff it.
The second was a bit later, when the East Timor crimes against humanity were unfolding. The story was that Clinton send an Admiral to deliver a message to the Indonesian government that mass killings on E. Timor were not acceptable. The Admiral did not follow orders, at least not those from the White House. Instead, he had a friendly meeting with the Indonesian military. The Clinton White House send the Admiral back to deliver their message.
During the Bush years, they rarely challenged the Pentagon, and let the Pentagon do whatever they wanted. One key incident however was when the Bush/Cheney crowd wanted to attack Iran and the Admiral who ran the Joint Chiefs just said no.
During Obama, Obama refrained from directly challenging the Pentagon directly. But we all saw what happened in Syria when Obama was reaching some agreements with Russia and the Pentagon promptly did a close-air-support mission for ISIS on the Syrian airbase.
In my mind, we’ve seen since the 1990’s that the Pentagon is no longer under civilian control.
Former President Jimmy Carter, when the revelations about NSA spying were coming out, stated “America no longer has a functioning democracy.”
The role of the state – of all states -, now, is to keep the nation, the people, under control, obeying the orders of the global elite, of the market. If it is necessary to brainwash everybody, so be it.
The only way to change this is for the people all over the world to organize and say a definite ‘no’ to the exploitation of this elite. People all over the world will have to unite to stop globalization, to stop the barbarism that it has created everywhere. We are all together, massified by the power of the 0.001%. For this reason, I would say that Marx and Engel’s call is, today, more alive than ever: “Peoples of the world, unite!”
Trump may be odious, but he says a true thing when he says : ” Frankly, we have no choice!”
See RT https://www.rt.com/usa/384993-trump-military-power-no-choice/
But if this is a true thing one might also say that it is insane – and he’d be right about that too.
4th Reich or “Empire” (not so much America the people or America the place, but the powers that occupy America) does in point of fact have only one path – piracy (but wearing a costume). This since when ? 1492? Chose a year. I admit the process has been one of degree and gradations…but in the fullness of time the Reich has colonized and exploited everything it can and so we arrive at the “problem”.
Problem? Yes. I said the path is insane… It was not insane, but now it is. This is because of the Asian and Slavic and Persian (?) resistance and identity – essentially three classical Empires cannot abide becoming subsumed. They too have no choice.
The disposition of forces at the onset decides the outcome, but nobody can know precisely what the dispositions of forces is, not how they will interact and in what secondary or tertiary ways – as Caesar put it “In war, events of importance are the result of trivial causes.” or precisely – Sed fortuna, quae plurimum potest cum in reliquis rebus tum praecipue in bello, parvis momentis magnas rerum commutationes efficit; ut tum accidit.
Now, as to method…
A powerful machine that becomes unstable is brought to a post hoc homeostasis by naturally occurring internal forces – it self-destructs. This is the way of the universe and it is inescapable.
Surviving the process means prevailing post hoc.
Surviving the process means attempting to minimize positive feedbacks which may splatter effects onto the observers while the observers examine and discover in the unstable machine, possible ways to salvage elements of the machine.
This is the Policy we see evolving in the forces opposing the Reich. It is seen as unfair. I suppose it is. But the Fates do not believe in tears, do they?
“@ LZ99: Your said: “Trump may be odious, but he says a true thing when he says : ” Frankly, we have no choice!”
Careful, warmonger Maggie Thatcher’s estate will be looking for copyright royalties on such a blatant plagiarism of her stock phrase, “There is no alternative”.
This is EXACTLY what the Zionist/Rothschild/MIC wants the public to think. And they’ll repeat that lie until it is “truth”.
Gutle Schnaper, Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s wife dies. Before her death she would nonchalantly state, “If my sons did not want wars, there would be none.”
Note that even within this heinous statement reflecting the generational psychopathy of the Rothschilds, the choice to have no war exists…
There is always a choice about war, particularly when the ones saying there is no choice profit from that war.
Let warmonger Trumpty Dumbdy and his children/son-n-law of enlistment age lead the ground troops in the war that cannot be avoided. My guess is it would be a short war indeed. “No choice but war” is so easy when your send other people’s children to fight/die in them. Cowards, the whole lot of the Washington/Brussels/Tel Aviv/London/Rothschild chickenhawk cabal.
How many Rothschilds died in WW2? One, the former Catholic wife of a lesser Rothschild who was left behind when the rest of the European Rothschilds ran away to the USA.
I am sorry, but you, friend, have misunderstood the situation. Trump himself may imagine he’s being willful, and so may you or I, but in point of fact the Empire has only one path – conquest. The “alternative” is collapse, which is unthinkable for our dear leaders. No one has any choice, least of all Trump. Perhaps a more careful reading of my posts would be helpful.
@ LZ99
I think I’ve got your way of thinking. I tend to agree, that the Empire “has no other choice” except of exploitation and piracy. That is a definition of a parasite. And parasites are our current “dear leaders”, aren’t they…
Cheers.
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Otherwise articles posted by the Saker will be redistributed as works of the Saker as it has happened with this one over at ZeroHedge.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/has-trump-lost-control-pentagon
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At the bottom of the article yesterday I saw it said “Scottie”. And today it has his full name. So while others may think ,if it is posted here,it would be by the Saker. We here should be able to know which articles are by which person.
It was signed as “Scotty”, to be more exact, and have to say that seemed to me a teenagery, driving one to not take much seriously an article or sitrep signed in such a way.. taking into account other sensationalist claims which happened in the past.
Yes,I couldn’t remember “exactly” the name style used. But none the less the point was/is there was no attempt by Scott (or anyone) to make it look like it was written by Saker. When I saw the name on it (whether Scott,Scottie,or Scotty) I knew at once who wrote it. He wasn’t trying to hide his authorship.
Reading it clearly tells one it was not a Saker article.
It may have been parading as one for several hours, but it was too eccentric and lame.
Every U.S president is a puppet president. There are powerful interests and individuals behind the scenes who form and shape the policies of the U.S government. They will not allow a clown like Trump to change the U.S defence strategy.
Trump was very belligerent during the primaries and the US election campaign and adopted a populist-nationalist rhetoric. But now he seems to have shit his pants. He is a puppet who follows what the deep state operatives order him to do.
Was he genuine before he got elected ? It does not matter at all. But with Trump you could never know if he was telling the truth or not.
But it did not stop Obama from firing many of them and install his puppets.
I was worried about Putin and his commitment to the cause of a multi polar world. but am I seeing now that is indeed the Chinese who have cut and run, in the face of american militarism..turned against the North Koreans and Russia in Syria.
M K Bhadrakumar suggests exactly that..that the Chinese have indeed cut and run leaving the Russians exposed.
is this also indication that Globalist bankers have absorbed the Chinese elite and are now the drivers of Chinese foreign policy?
that being so are we to consider that the Chinese inspired New Silk Roads..OBOR..are the eastern arm of the New World Order, that Xi and the Chinese are avid globalists too?
and why this open exposure of supposed Chinese pro american position, considering how it may affect Russian opinion and policies?
Do the americans even care about Russian reaction at this stage…may they think that Russia, tied into Chinese economic arms, dependent on Chinese purchase of Russian oil etc., are now unable to do anything but surrender?
M K Bhadrakumar’s view is not bible. He is from outside looking in like all of us. He has no privilege on Chinese culture or mindset, although he may has better understanding than most of his fellow countrymen.
He also said since Kashmir is land locked, so It is not possible for independence, But being landlocked did not stop Kosovo from independence.
China do not play games with her allies and neighbors. But many others are trying to play the game of divide and conquer with China and her neighbors(whether they are Russia, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Vietnam, or Korea, Japan). You can read that from comments here and other places when China is involved in an article.
Russia and China BFF? Talk to the Vietnamese about that kind of illusionary thinking.
http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/05/01/402572349/ask-the-vietnamese-about-war-and-they-think-china-not-the-u-s
It is be helpful to read about role vietnam play in the indiuchina/SE Asia region historically, and talk to all its small neighbors to understand context of this writing.
Interesting choice of sources. NPR is a wonderful source of American disinformation.
Like India, Vietnam has been tilting towards the Americans since Obama and his Pivot against China… er to Asia. So the US free press fo courses to play this up.
As for M K Bhadrakumar, he seems quite the church mouse when calling India’s embrace of and sell out to the Americans.
Indeed, many posters on this website are conspiciously silent on India’s unipolar treachery. Why is that?
Donald Trump’s call to Narendra Modi indicates India-US ties are set for a higher orbit
http://www.firstpost.com/india/donald-trumps-call-to-narendra-modi-indicates-india-us-ties-are-set-for-a-higher-orbit-3219322.html
Civilian control over the Pentagon was ‘lost’ as far back as 1993. Or at least it was shown to be lost during the Clinton administration and has never been shown as being found since.
During Clinton, there were a couple of moments where the White House thought that as Commander-in-Chief he could tell the Pentagon what to do. One was right at the beginning of the Clinton term, the other a few years later.
The most obvious was the first. Clinton got identity politics votes by promising to end discrimination against gays in the military. He tired it, and the Pentagon chiefs told him to go stuff it.
The second was a bit later, when the East Timor crimes against humanity were unfolding. The story was that Clinton send an Admiral to deliver a message to the Indonesian government that mass killings on E. Timor were not acceptable. The Admiral did not follow orders, at least not those from the White House. Instead, he had a friendly meeting with the Indonesian military. The Clinton White House send the Admiral back to deliver their message.
During the Bush years, they rarely challenged the Pentagon, and let the Pentagon do whatever they wanted. One key incident however was when the Bush/Cheney crowd wanted to attack Iran and the Admiral who ran the Joint Chiefs just said no.
During Obama, Obama refrained from directly challenging the Pentagon directly. But we all saw what happened in Syria when Obama was reaching some agreements with Russia and the Pentagon promptly did a close-air-support mission for ISIS on the Syrian airbase.
In my mind, we’ve seen since the 1990’s that the Pentagon is no longer under civilian control.
Former President Jimmy Carter, when the revelations about NSA spying were coming out, stated “America no longer has a functioning democracy.” http://www.salon.com/2013/07/18/jimmy_carter_us_has_no_functioning_democracy_partner/
Yes, in a globalized world/economy, the state is not independent from external interference – and, in the case of the US, it is no anymore in a position to go for colonial adventures: it is all about sustaining the global economy… It is all about obedience to the market, to the transnational elite.
Of course, there are still some leftover imperial adventures going on; but, they have their days counted – imperialism time is finished as it brings no benefit to the transnational elite, which is comprised by the bankers, the top echelons of the biggest transnational corporations, the top politicians, the media, and the organizations they control such as NATO (including the Pentagon, due to its role in this organization), WB, WTO, UN…
This is why former President Carter stated that “America no longer has a functioning democracy.”
For the transnational elite , what really matters is that all countries open their market and allow the exploitation of their resources, including labour, and the US is not excluded – they control power in the US and most countries, except a few independent, sovereign countries that they want to destroy: Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, North Korea…
The role of the state – of all states -, now, is to keep the nation, the people, under control, obeying the orders of the global elite, of the market. If it is necessary to brainwash everybody, so be it.
The only way to change this is for the people all over the world to organize and say a definite ‘no’ to the exploitation of this elite. People all over the world will have to unite to stop globalization, to stop the barbarism that it has created everywhere. We are all together, massified by the power of the 0.001%. For this reason, I would say that Marx and Engel’s call is, today, more alive than ever: “Peoples of the world, unite!”
Must say that what you have set forth is reminiscent of the coup attempt by financiers and corporatists who had hoped to replace FDR with Smutley Butler back in the thirties. Basically, they have finally succeeded. The American government is nothing but a facade, a front operation for the real powers that be. Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, congress…they are the useful idiots.
[Who is “Smutley Butler?”~Mod. DG]
Smedly was a folk USMC (Marine Corps Lt General from a Quaker family who repudiated his “service” as having been criminal, “thug” was the term he used.) hero in the US in the 1930’s. The cryptofascists inside the US, native fascists, attempted to enlist hmi in a coup to sideline FDR…
He narked them off, but of course nobody went to jail…
In 1935, former Gen Smedly Butler wrote “War is a Racket”.
Even though it is by now some 80 years old, its still worth reading. And no, it won’t be found on CNN.
https://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
Another good read is ‘Confessions of an Economic Hit Man’.
Twice Medal of Honor recipient. You really owe it to yourself to read ‘War is a Racket’. It shows how the bankers have been leading us to ruin for their own benefit. In these times of Full Spectrum Militarism, everyone should be aware of what he had to say.
In related news. A new poll in Russia shows 30% of the population thinks a hot war between Russia and the US is a possibility. And the approval of Trump which was high recently. With his talk of better relations between the US and Russia has sunk to 13% from 38%.
https://www.rt.com/politics/385030-russians-possible-war-us/
Jesus was crucified by Roman soldiers. But Pilate said I find no guilt in him. The soldiers served the Pharisees that were in political control. The Pharisees hired soldiers to lie and say that Christs disciples had stolen his body .The soldiers [military] were controlled by Pharisees. But the Pharisees are not monolithic. Nicodemus had doubts and sought private audience with Christ. So to all pharisees do not believe in present path toward war .Some Pharisees can meet and know the Truth but can not acknowledge it to their peers without allegation of disloyalty.
Body of Executed Terrorist Mysteriously Goes Missing
ROME- Inciting riots, making terrorist threats, destruction of property, treason, and impersonating a King are just some of the charges this man faced last week.
When the regional authorities of the Sanhedrin finally had enough of his sedition, agents of Rome moved to arrest the terrorist who has been in the news constantly over the past few years.
Last week the target was located on a tip from follower turned informant Judas Iscariot. Judas became disillusioned with the lies and tricks Jesus pulled and decided to turn Jesus in for the reward for information leading to his arrest.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-17/body-executed-terrorist-mysteriously-goes-missing
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Original author/website: The Daily Bell.
The Pharisees have great capacity to delude themselves. When Pharisees control the military it is prone to underestimate their adversaries.
I don’t think the military is taking over Trump. They appealed to Bush Jr. to start conventional GI Joe wars — and he loved the idea. They appealed to Obama to sponsor proxy wars — and he loved the idea. Now they are appealing to Trump to just bomb things without a care for nation-building, and he is in love with the idea.
The crisis in the Korean Peninsula is still “heating up”. With the US stooges in Japan and South Korea adding their threats against North Korea. As the Duran talked about.The US is “boxing themselves” into a corner. North Korea is already boxed into a corner. So only the US has room to maneuver. But they are closing that room off. They could,and any sane rational leadership would,say to North Korea “lets find a way out of this crisis”. And propose talks between the two of them.Even with the barbarity of the terrorist groups in Syria. The Syrians and Russians are willing to sit down with them and look for peace. But the US won’t even do that with North Korea.If war comes from this crisis. The blame for it will be almost totally on the US.
http://theduran.com/trump-becoming-trapped-rhetoric/
It seems to me that The Hegemon is now more than ever just plain looking for trouble. General Trumpster and the ‘Pentagonites’ strut about like peacocks, kicking butt and bullying everyone -except Israel of course.
All vassals fall in -at the double!
Blinded by arrogance and a false aura of invincibility they have embarked on ‘poke the wasps nest’ ‘Manifest Destiny’ adventurism.
They need to be brought down a peg or two.
As I said a few days ago in another context, ‘leave the damn cat alone instead of teasing it, and it won’t scratch or bite you’. For as long as I remember DPRK has been minding it’s own business and not bothering other countries around the world. Even the Korean war was the result of US meddling.
What NK wanted all along was to be left alone and have a guarantee of not being attacked, and was very content with treaties to ensure that, even initiating attempts, but the US refused, and reneged on agreements (such as the Agreed Framework), and continuing to tell lies about NK and call it’s leaders nasty names. All the buildup of NK military is in direct defensive response to imperialist US aggression and threats. So far that’s worked — NK is still there and has not been invaded or subjected the a US sponsored coup, so why would it stop defending against the bully, and let itself become its victim? Of course NK is authoritarian: it’s been in a constant national emergency for over 60 years from US aggression.
My thoughts on what may happen in the Korean Peninsula.
The naval task force sailing towards North Korea does not include ground invasion troops. It is essentially a platform to prosecute a surface-to-surface bombing campaign against selected military and civilian targets of the DPRK. A U.S. Navy carrier is a floating airbase used to launch fighter-bomber aircraft while the rest of the task force will deploy cruise missiles. No U.S. Marine amphibious ships are currently part of this mission although Marines stationed in Okinawa could rapidly be mobilized as part of a phase II plan.
A carrier houses about 90 attack planes and it’s being reported that two more carriers are on their way to join up with this naval group. So we are looking at less than 300 U.S. naval and Marine aircraft being involved in any bombing plan. This estimate does not take into consideration if Japan’s air force plans to participate as well. During Operation Desert Storm in 1991, over 2,000 aircraft were used to degrade Saddam Hussein’s military. What the world is seeing from the U.S. now is saber rattling and geopolitical posturing, not a serious threat of war against Kim Jong-un’s regime in Pyongyang.
North Korean air defense is formidable according to these articles here (see: http://warisboring.com/dont-underestimate-north-koreas-air-defense-missiles/ ) and here (see: https://fas.org/irp/dia/product/knfms/knfms_chp5a.html ). The DPRK has thousands of anti-aircraft guns and surface-to-air soviet era missiles that are still effective against an air assault. The U.S. will take losses and captured pilots will be politically exploited for maximum effect, we can be sure of that
Because of that alone, I doubt the Pentagon and President Trump will issue an attack order at all. What may happen is the U.S. may try and create some sort of naval blockade or harass North Korean commercial shipping. Either way, the U.S. is engaging in another illegal act of aggression against a country that has a right to defend itself.
The MOAB strike was the classic military mistake of using too much force. Our old friend Hamid Karzai has condemned it as a rank weapons test using Afghanistan as a dummy, and popular demonstrations indicate that it may become a cause for ousting the American occupation, as was done in Iraq. Trump and the generals are trying their hand at military dictatorship, but, by now, it is all starting to look like a rear-guard action for a fading empire. Trump ran on a platform of “Make America Great Again”, i.e., restoring the super-power. George Bush tried the same thing. Obama was smart enough to use a more asymmetrical approach, for which he was chided as “leading from behind.” Trump may fail in the grand Bush tradition, likely including another economic crash.
The Indians look at the MOAB incident differently. They claim 500 Pakistani ISI guys got killed by MOAB, so they also implied that the missing Tomahawks were actually aimed at the ISIS. (Mc Master recently told Nawaz Sheriff that he tried to kill “terrorists of all form”.
They don’t want war – they want MONEY.
It’s not the military and the intelligence community doing this – it’s the people BEHIND them. It’s the “military-intelligence-security-industrial-complex” – or “Deep State” for short – which includes the oil companies and the banks.
They want everyone’s MONEY and the only way to get it is to ratchet up phoney threats against the US electorate so they can tax them more.
It’s the same old, same old “rule by fear”.
Yes, it will lead to war, especially against smaller states like Iran. A war with Iran would last a decade or two and cost the US taxpayer half a trillion dollars per year – all of it going to the people n the Deep State.
And while they’re doing that, they could easily start wars like in North Korea which would cost the US fifty thousand casualties every ninety days. And they could easily accidentally start WWIII with Russia over Syria, Ukraine or the Baltics.
And they DO NOT CARE – because unless there actually IS a nuclear war, not ONE of these people in the Deep State will lose one thin dime or suffer ANY consequences at all.
Because the US electorate has not controlled their government for at least the last half century. And they will continue to not control it until either there is a nuclear war or they have been beaten down enough to actually start a Second American Revolution.
Don’t hold your breath.
“This tells me that no matter who takes the presidency, the US armed forces and the intelligence community refuse to recognize the country’s civilian government.”
This is the most terrifying observation in the whole piece ad one that must worry us all.
What a crock! Trump will only be there for a maximum of 8 years. The generals in the Pentagon however, have been there for millenia and know EVERYTHING that goes on and EVERYTHING that moves on the planet.
Trump will only be told that which he can ingest into his IQ.
Get Real!!!!
I agree. The generals are there to prosecute wars, it has been the case from stone age!
Get grip, so what we have radio active stones, motorized canoe, and iron bird. In our heart, we still true Neanderthal who do better than anyone else at killing whoever come between us and our prey.
Did I say Neanderthal do not talk, don’t read, write, educate them self? Does it matter, wars are wars, all animal fight wars, let animals be animals, people!. Get on with it!
So what technology has narrowed the oceans around America! We still have bigger guns, bigger boats, and the new big bad waddling F35. we can still hold a few year longer before others catch on. Lets bomb the rest of world into stone age, so we will never have to worry about repaying the debt, or shrinking ocean!
Is it just me or has anybody else noticed the handshake between McMaster and Trump?
It is classic dominant (McMaster) passive (Trump).
Neutral is upright, the handshake as most people do when meeting someone. When someone wants to turn the hand into dominant passive they try to turn the hand to be over under. Most people resist this naturally, unless they agree with being the passive partner. IE, CEO meets junior person in company, though most would still shake in neutral position) Over Dominant under Passive. Looking at the handshake in two photos Trump assumes the passive when proffering the hand, McMaster maintains that during the hand clasp. That lets you know who is in charge. NOW THAT IS A WORRY.
Body language is a gold mine (the truth hidden in plain sight)… :)
The photo is here:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-21/hr-mcmaster-shakes-hands-with-president-trump/8289496
Cheers.
I myself do not agree with Messan at http://www.voltairenet.org/article196024.html , (“Two Steps Forward and one step back”)
As we have seen, Mr. T has no choice. The internal contradictions and the character of 4th R Empire make it so – but Messan may be correct about Trump’s desire. And it may be that he knows that he has limited power – he does seem to realize this.
Hire a clown they say, and you may get the whole circus…
Pentagon will near in future make missile strikes without asking Trump any permission at all. They will do them and say later: “Mr President, this was good for your future.”
Trump is become a pharmacos…and yes indeed, in the future as in the past there will naturally be actions taken without permission – and in a sense this is best – best?
How so?
Sun Tsu wrote about this matter. Once the army is in the field the King may not instruct his generals.
He can’t know what they know nor see what they see. Once the army is in the field the generals know better than their king how to fight – once the army is in the field the die -kubos – is cast and Fortune decides…
Of course Sun Tsu assumed, as everyone must, that the generals are not insane…
But how pharmacos? Because the generals cannot win…and somebody has to take the blame…
If the US bombed the NK nuclear facilities it would create 6 Chernobyl’s in war zone ehich would remain unregulated for months or years or aeons. Everybody south and east would die at this time of the year however to be frank anybody within 500 kms in every compass direction would have their life and general prospects, if dubiously provinated to live, severely curtailed.
Japan is techologically stretched dealing with Fukushima Daichi. Its east coast is cactus. Does it need its west coast a wasteland too.?
South Korea has just experienced a kind if color revolution. it has been decapped. It is being administered to insert THAAD. This little storm is about what happens next in the ME and Ukronaziland. Whatever it is it is going to be big. With 3 carrier groups positioning within strike range of PRC and the ever ready option to pull the pin of the NK hand grenade PRC is out of the game for when the true action kicks off in the ME and Noodleland.
It absolutely doesn’t matter whether Trump ordered these strikes or not. Trump is a buffoon. He has betrayed hopes of #TrumpTrain people, and will always be despised by Neocons as well.
The two headed chicken strategy
https://sputniknews.com/us/201704191052762128-usa-supercarrier-lost-due-miscommunication/
Did we just see an example of this with the CV Carl Vinson?
The official story is rather unbelievable. The report is that the WH didn’t properly communicate with commanders responsible for moving the TF.
That sounds odd. First, you’d think the President makes his wishes known to the US Navy, then they put the ships where the President wants them. Second, the commander has access to the news. He/She has certainly been seeing the news that he was supposed to be sailing towards Korea. One would think he’d have asked a question about this up his chain of command. Why is the White House saying I’m going to Korea? If the chain of command was working properly, you’d think this question goes upwards until someone notices that the ship isn’t ordered what the WH has asked for?
It sounds to me like the Pentagon thinks they know that they didn’t want a 2nd Korean War, at least not right now, so they decided that carrier wasn’t going anywhere near Korea.
Now, who’s in command?
And since reports were out that the Koreans and Chinese were following this CV TF very closely, as of course they would if they were worried that it might start WW3, I wonder what they were thinking watching those ships sail southeast and nowhere near Korea. Who’s in command?
“Trump has lost control over the Pentagon”
No he didn’t, he never had control of the pentagon, pense’s israeli owners had him put trump in charge of twitter messages…
I think it might be worst then even the author is suggesting. It doesn’t appear that anyone is in charge.
The Jewish dominated press in the US is by no means “free” nor does it help the nation in any way. It is a major link in the chain that enslaves the the entire country to the will of a hostile racist foreign power.
Yes, he has lost control over the Pentagon but not yet entirely. He is beginning to learn his job and to push back appropriately.