I won’t even bother discussing the substance of what Trump had to say today because what he said deserves no such attention. I will quickly mention that yesterday Trump pulled the US out of UNESCO on behalf of Israeli interests. Today he basically announced a tepid, possibly hot, war on Iran. I am tempted to say “so what else is new?”. In fact, nothing, nothing at all.
This topic, the AngloZionist plans of war against Iran, has been what made me write my very first post on my newly created blog 10 years ago. Today, I want to reproduce that post in full. Here it is:
Where the Empire meets to plan the next war
Take a guess: where would the Empire’s puppeteers meet to finalize and coordinate their plans to attack Iran?
Washington? New York? London? NATO HQ in Brussels? Davos?
Nope.
In Herzilia. Never heard of that place?
The Israeli city of Herzliya is named after Theodor Herzl, the father of modern Zionism, and it has hosted a meeting of the Empire’s Who’s Who over the past several days at the yearly conference of the Herzilia Institute for Policy and Stragegy. For a while, Herzilia truly became the see of the Empire’s inner core of heavy hitters.
(Non-Israeli) speakers included:
Jose Maria Aznar Former Prime Minister of Spain, Matthew Bronfman, Chair of the Budget and Finance Commission, World Jewish Congress, and member of the World Jewish Congress Steering Committee, Amb. Nicholas Burns US Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, Prof. Alan Dershowitz Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law at Harvard Law School, Senator John Edwards Head of the One America Committee and candidate for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination, Gordon England US Deputy Secretary of Defense, Dr. Marvin C. Feuer Director of Policy and Government Affairs, AIPAC, Newt Gingrich Former U.S. Speaker of the House of Representatives, Rudolph Giuliani, Former Mayor of New York City and candidate for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination, General the Lord Charles Guthrie of Craigiebank GCB LVO OBE. Former Chief of the Defense Staff and Chief of the General Staff of the British Army, Amb. Dr. Richard Haass President of the Council on Foreign Relations, Stephen E. Herbits Secretary-General of the World Jewish Congress, Amb. Dr. Robert Hunter President of the Atlantic Treaty Association and Former U.S. Permanent Representative to NATO. Senior Advisor at the RAND Corporation in Washington (also serves as Chairman of the Council for a Community of Democracies, Senior International Consultant to Lockheed Martin Overseas Corporation), Amb. Dr. Richard H. Jones United States Ambassador to Israel (also served as the Secretary of State’s Senior Advisor and Coordinator for Iraq Policy), Col. (res.) Dr. Eran Lerman Director, Israel and Middle East Office, American Jewish Committee (also served in the IDF Intelligence Directorate for over 25 years), Christian Leffler Deputy Chief of Staff of the European Commissioner for External Relations and Director for Middle East and Southern Mediterranean, European Commission, The Hon. Peter Mackay Canadian Minister of Foreign Affairs, Senator John McCain U.S. Senator (R) from Arizona and candidate for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination, Dr. Edward L. Morse Chief Energy Economist, Lehman Brothers, Dr. Rolf Mützenich Member of the German Federal Parliament (SPD) and member of the Committee on Foreign Policy of the Bundestag (and Board Member of the “Germany-Iran Society”), Torkel L. Patterson President of Raytheon International, Inc., Richard Perle Resident Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (previously served as Chairman of the Defense Policy Board and Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy), Amb. Thomas R. Pickering Former U.S. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs (previously served as Senior Vice President of Boeing), Jack Rosen Chairman of the American Jewish Congress (and member of the Executive Committee of AIPAC and of the Council on Foreign Relations), Stanley O. Roth Vice President for Asia, International Relations of the Boeing Company (member of the Council on Foreign Relations), James Woolsey Former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, and many others.
Pretty much the entire Israeli “Defence” establishment (why does nobody call it “Aggression establishment?) was present too.
Not bad for a “conference”?!
Of course, the main topic at the conference was the upcoming war with Iran. Richard Perle, the “Prince of Darkness”, delivered the keynote and conclusion: “If the Israeli government comes to the conclusion that it has no choice but to take action, the reaction of the U.S. will be the belief in the vitality that this action must succeed, even if the U.S. needs to act with Israel in the current American administration”.
Noticed anything funny in his words? It’s the “world only superpower” which will have the “belief” (?) in the action of a local country and, if needed, act with it. Not the other way around. Makes one wonder which of the two is the world only superpower, does it not?
Anyway – if anyone has ANY doubts left that the Empire will totally ignore the will of the American people as expressed in the last election and strike at Iran, this conference should settle the issue.
Also – there are other indicators and warnings. Besides the two aircraft carrier battle groups at Iran’s shores, AWACs planes and military equipment is being shipped to Turkey, and air bridge of C-17 heavy transport aircraft are delivering weapons to Siniora’s government in Lebanon, and forces are being deployed to Iraq to defend the dug-in US forces from Shia retaliation.
What about the Democratic majority in Congress? Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House, settled any doubts about they would act when she declared at the 2006 AIPAC conference:
“The greatest threat to Israel’s right to exist, with the prospect of devastating violence, now comes from Iran. For too long, leaders of both political parties in the United States have not done nearly enough to confront the Russians and the Chinese, who have supplied Iran as it has plowed ahead with its nuclear and missile technology. Proliferation represents a clear threat to Israel and to America. It must be confronted by an international coalition against proliferation, with a commitment and a coalition every bit as strong as our commitment to the war against terror.”
BTW – Hillary Clinton, the party’s leading contender for the presidential nomination, out-neocons many Republicans when it comes to Iran:
“Let’s be clear about the threat we face now: A nuclear Iran is a danger to Israel, to its neighbors and beyond. The regime’s pro-terrorist, anti-American and anti-Israel rhetoric only underscores the urgency of the threat it poses. U.S. policy must be clear and unequivocal. We cannot and should not – must not – permit Iran to build or acquire nuclear weapons. In order to prevent that from occurring, we must have more support vigorously and publicly expressed by China and Russia, and we must move as quickly as feasible for sanctions in the United Nations. And we cannot take any option off the table in sending a clear message to the current leadership of Iran – that they will not be permitted to acquire nuclear weapons.”
So much for the will of the American people. As Justin Raimondo exclaimed in his recent article about the upcoming war on antiwar.com – isn’t democracy wonderful?!
So count with yet another imperial war of aggression, a barrel of crude at over 100$ and oil shortages, rocketing inflation, job losses, a stagnant real estate market and stock exchange, and a national debt and government deficit which would make even Reagan proud. And plenty of dead Americans (nevermind the Iranians, right?).
But don’t worry: there will still be a huge supply of Chinese-made US flags to wave!
And now here we are, 10 years later. For 10 years I have considered that my prediction of a US attack on Iran was the biggest analytical failure in my career. I now hope and pray that it will remain so and that I will not be proven right. But it sure looks like my prediction will be vindicated.
A couple of months after posting my warning about a risk of a US aggression against Iran I posted another article in which I tried to show that Iran had so many “asymmetrical options” that it could not win a war against Iran. This article is now dated, but those interested can find it here. Let me just repost my conclusions:
In conclusion we can see that Iran would not have to proactively do anything to make the Empire pay for an short and limited attack. Riding out the attack and letting the Neocons pay the political price for their folly would be the most likely Iranian response. In case of a long term major Imperial war against Iran, the Iranians would have a broad variety of “asymmetrical” options from which to choose, none of which would involve shutting down the Strait of Hormuz or chasing US aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf.
In any scenario, time would always be on the Iranian side while the Empire would very rapidly run out of options to try force an acceptable outcome.
This lack of a viable “exit strategy” would rapidly force the time-pressed Imperial High Command to consider the use of nuclear weapons to avoid getting bogged down in a rapidly worsening situation. Any actual use of nuclear weapons would result into a general collapse of the entire Neocon empire of a magnitude similar to the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. In other words, there are no possible winning strategies for an Imperial aggression against Iran.
As I mentioned, this article is dated. It is dated because since 2007 Iran has only become stronger, while the USA has become much, much weaker: not only has the USA been defeated in Syria, but the election of Trump has resulted in such a crisis inside the USA that at this point in time the USA does not even have a foreign policy of any kind and that the various branches of the US government are basically doing whatever the hell they want. As for Trump, he has become AIPAC’s “punk-ass bitch” (sorry for the rude expression, but in this case I cannot think of any combination of words which could more accurately illustrate Trump’s status).
So, the big question is obvious: is that just hot air or will a war happen?
At the risk of deepening what still might be my mistaken prognosis of 2007 I will say that yes, the USA will probably attack Iran. Since there is exactly ZERO chance of Iran caving in to the latest US-Israeli threats, not attacking Iran will now represent a major loss of face and humiliation for Trump and his Neocon masters. So the USA will go to war yet again, not for any rational reason, but solely because Bibi Netanyahu “owns” Trump and Israel “own” the USA. Yes my dear Americans, far from being “the land of the free and the home of the brave” the USA is a subservient colony of a tiny state in the Middle-East which also happens to be the last officially racist state on our planet. Which makes you neither brave, nor free. Sorry.
The only good news is that once the Neocons fail, there will be political hell to pay for them. Oh sure, their plan is not even to win. What they want is inflict as much damage as possible on Iran (like they did in Lebanon and Gaza), kill as many Iranians as possible, destroy as much of the Iranian infrastructure as they can, before dumping Trump and blaming it all on him. Their hope is that the US Ziomedia will then lynch Trump for starting an unwinnable war against Iran while they, the Neocons, quietly slip away and let Trump face the music. Trump will be impeached, possibly jailed, while Bibi Netanyahu will either get reelected personally, or appoint the next guy in charge. Let the goyim kill each other while we reap the benefits from it all.
Tob shebbe goyim harog, right?
While that work?
Maybe. I will never commit the mistake of underestimating the stupidity and ignorance of brainwashed people our society is so good at generating, but I will add that this plan also involves a huge risk: if, in the age of the still-not-quite-Big-Brother-controlled Internet the American people finally connect the dots and find out that they fought and lost many wars on behalf of a small cabal of racist Zionists who despise them, then there is a real possibility of a huge blowback against the (aptly-named) Zionist Occupation Government (aka ZOG) which, in turn, might open a Pandora’s box of questions, including what really happened on 9/11.
But that is still a distant possibility at most.
Right now what we are looking at is a slow but steady move towards a US attack on Iran.
As for the Iranians, my heart goes out to them, but I take comfort in the fact that they, being religious, understand that how you live and what you fight for is far more important than how long you live. I saw that President Rouhani serenely declared that Trump’s speech as “expletives and a pile of delusional allegations“. He is right.
No country is ever ready for war. Unless it is the aggressor, of course. But Iran is today in much, much better shape than 10 years ago, not only in social, political, economic and military terms, but also in strategic terms: the USA just lost Syria and nobody in the Middle-East believes in the myth of the “invincible superpower” any more than they believe in the myth of “invincible Tsahal”.
As for Hassan Nasrallah, he recommended that the Jews who recently moved to Israel to get the hell out before the next war begins. He is also right. The Iranians are not stupid, they know that the upcoming US attack on Iran was ordered by Israel. This is hardly a secret, the Israelis have been begging for it for years now. An Iranian retaliatory counter-attack on Israel is, therefore, only logical.
The inevitable US defeat against Iran will make the defeats in Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq look like minor disappointments. If you have not read it yet, make sure to get a copy of “Twilight’s Last Gleaming” by J.M. Greer which I reviewed here as it does a great job explaining, in an entertaining manner, how a foreign military disaster can bring about the complete collapse of the AngloZionist Empire and even a breakup of the United States.
Tonight I am saddened, disgusted and, yes, frightened. There is still a possibility that all this will remain your garden variety imperial hubris combined with the typical Zionist arrogance famous worldwide. But words and idea do have their own power and tonight Donald Trump sure has vomited up a long list of expletives and delusions. It will be awfully hard to back down from this latest list of threats, especially after being so recently ridiculed and, worse, ignored by the North Koreans who never took Trump “powerful armada” seriously (and for good reasons).
So, in my own way, I will end with what I would call a warning to the Zionists: before taking on the Persians, think very carefully who you are messing with! Take a look at what Iranian *rappers* have to say about their country and now try to imagine how the members of the Iranian Armed Forces and Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps feel about your threats. Are you really so sure that you have what it takes to fight them?!
The Saker
(see below for translated lyrics)
Translated Lyrics:
Listen. I want to tell you my intent
They want to erase my identity
The history of the land of the Aryans
Is screaming until we come to it
So now is the time for you to hear
Iran is my land the
The country which after 7000 years
Is still standing
And the hearts of Iranians – still like the sea
Hear this, my fellow Iranian, from YAS
I too for my land stand like a soldier
Hold Iran like a gem in your hand and say
My complaint will burst out like a shot
Let’s stand together and sing our anthem
My sisters, my brothers, my fellow Iranians
Iran’s civilization is in danger
All of us are soldiers beneath our flag
We won’t let anyone spread lies about us
For us Iranians it is our calling
That we wear the symbol of ‘Farvahar’ around our necks
Our unity against an enemy is the cause of their distress
Iran’s name for us is an honor
And our respect for her is like a thorn in eye for those
Who want to injure her
– Like the thirst of a seed [wheat] for water
– Like the dampness of rain, the smell of earth
– Like you, pure eyes, like the feeling of its earth, for you
– My land. Singing for you is in my heart
– Singing of my land, is my feeling
– My love – the earth of this land – Iran!
You want to say that we came from generations of Barbarians?
So take a look then to Takht Jamshid!
You’re showing Iran’s name in vein
So yours could be written big on a cover of a CD [DVD}?
I’m writing down your intentions in my book
I know why you wrote this film “300”
I know that your heart is made of stone and lead
Instead of using your art to make a culture of peace
In this sensitive air and bad atmosphere
You want to start fishing in murky waters [profiting]
But this I tell you in its original language
Iran will never be spoiled and surrendered
God has given you two eyes to see
Take a look and read the books written by
Saadi and Ibn-e-Sina, Ferdosi, Khayam or Molana Rumi
Always throughout history we were the start [on top]
But now YAS can’t sit down quietly
Let Iran’s name be marred by a few tricksters
I’ll shred your intentions with the “razor of hope”
Who are you to speak of the history of Iran?
It was Cyrus The Great that started the peace
Freeing the Jewish from the grip of Babylon
Cyrus The Great wrote the first bill of human rights
That is why I carry my esteem and great pride
For my Iran. The history of my land
For the earth of this land which my body is from
Whatever part of the world you live my fellow Iranian
And till your blood flows through you
Don’t allow yourself to be satisfied
That anyone can fool around with your heritage
The history of Iran is my identity
Iran – protecting your name is my good intent
The chances to see them connecting the dots are slim. The left will probably say “no more wars for blood & the industrial military complex”, Michael Moore will make a new movie where Israel will be a passive actor whose security was jeopardized by Trump, the “right” will say that it’s because Obama reinforced Iran by “giving” them $billions and that Trump tried to “fix it” but not enough money was put in the military to do the trick. As long that dollar exists it will continue.
I have just finished reading through the Reddit posts of many an irate Democrat leaning progressive
blaming the Russians on this act of American treachery. According to these diseased minds, Putin made Trump do it – I wish I was joking, but I am dead serious… how can you reason with such a people???
The US has gone completely mental and both the left and the right are as insane as the other. They deserve Trump, the rest of us do not
It is difficult to understand why still today the Iranian regime does not conduct drills or exercises preparing the civilian population all over that country in the event of a massive air assault against Iran’s nuclear and strategic infrastructure (air shelters, escape routes, safe zones, etc): a military operation that will be carried out by the de-facto Israeli/Arab alliance.
The air forces of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE, Bahrain and Jordan are gaining valuable experience as a result of the ongoing wars in Yemen and Syria respectively, and surely these nations will put into practice those new skills while destroying Iran’s strategic assets (military bases, missile launch facilities, seaports, oil installations, pipelines, bridges, communication lines, highways, etc). Meanwhile the IDF/AF will solely dedicate its efforts in destroying the entire nuclear infrastructure of the Islamic Republic.
This military partnership has already been preparing for years for such complex operation but they have now the means and needed non-conventional ordnance to fulfill their mission: send Iran back to the stone age while creating total chaos all over that country.
And this unavailable confrontation will exclusively be limited to a massive air campaign similar in many ways to NATO’s air war against Serbia in 1999, implying that a major regional war or WW3 will not develop as a result of this military operation (China and Russia will restrict themselves to act as mere spectators while the US and its western allies will simply provide the needed logistics to Israel and the Arabs).
Well said, Torombo. The insanity and butchery of Ziodi Arabia’s war on Yemen, besides filling the coffers of the MIC, serves primarily as the training ground par excellence for the master plan: Ziodi Arabia’s imminent attack on Iran. Before dealing with Israel proper, Iran will have to deal with the Arab Gulf States foot soldiers and their expensive US lethal toys; not to mention likely attacks from US bases in Afghanistan.
Another wild question is nuclear-armed Pakistan’s position in all of this.
Well Well Well ! Where have you been lately you Quintus and Torombo? First the saudis are oosing the war in Yemen, Egypt, UAE, Barhain withdrawed a few months ago from Yemen.
Second, Turkey Iran Russia made a pact that if one of them is being attack, and the Russians know that the USA and Isra-Hell are planning some sort of an attack on Iran, they will help Iran to defeat US/Isra-Hell attacks. Do you really think the Saudis will make a difference on the ground ? Come on wake-up ! The Iranians are 100 times more powerful than the Saudis. Why do you think the Saudis last week went to see Putin? You think the Saudis will fight along Israel\US against Iran ?
Do you think Turkey will join side with the Saudis against Iran ?
The Paskistanis are fighting alongside with Iranians ,Hezbollah ans Syrians against Daesh\US terrorists in Syria. No way Pakistan will fight against Iran !
The Iranians are ready to fight to the last man/woman for their country, they don’t need shelters, only Cowards need shelters. The Cowards live in Isra-hell and Washington DC, they will use nuclear heads if they loose the battle , Especially Isra-Hell with its 300 or so Nuclear warheads.
That’s what WE should be afraid of ! Not who’s gonna win the war . The Cowards don’t give a sheet about the human beings, they(Cabal ,Illuminatis,Dracos & Al,whatever you name it) are desperate and cornered, their NWO agenda is crumbling.
People are waking-up, the world is waking up, EU and USA are falling apart . The rest of the world are joining the Russians/China/SCO/Bricks alliances multi-polar world.
The Anglo-Saxons Empire is dying, Fear is the only weapon they have left.
It’s up to us now, what ever these MONSTERS do, We won’t back down and we will CRUSH THEM !
ما با آخرین مبارزه خواهیم کرد
The Imperial model of American diplomacy has collapsed and they are helpless in the face of Russian diplomacy that offers a fair deal.
Rather than reassess their model, the empire has decided on a policy of plunging into chaos any state that does not bend over.
Syria Libya and Iraq are victims of this model. If they seem to be rallying under the Russian banner because the Russians offer stability and their Chinese partners, prosperity.
What does the empire have to offer?
Threats, war, oppression, debt, and corrupt treasonous puppet leaders.
Who is going to win this race?
The only way America can save itself is to purge the deep state traitors who put the empire before the Republic. They will lose both and gain nothing.
If you want to move the price of oil by $10 increments – Russia is the natural ally – and proven to be a master of strategy/ equipment / technology/ tactics / commitment you can count on / and especially Diplomacy.
Each $10 PER Bbl- is $33 Billion per annum to SA. Not pocket change – when the largest “future” world supplier is ….Russia and can make it stick.
They also have Iran / Iraq / Turkey / Syria / Hezbollah as partners plus tangentially the Taliban / Pakistan.
And, a 10 million man military when the game goes full tilt and they want it — China!
The Washington Cabal has no credibility with its “word” internationally nor with its Citizens – who hate them – republicans & Democrats alike.
No one but fools see otherwise.
I saw a similar “reasoning” (about Putin ordering Trump to cancel the deal in order to weaken the US) in a Montreal newspaper comment section by an anti-Trump guy; it’s not just in the US. You have to remember how many people had so much difficulties to deal with elementary logic in high school. Once you had an ethnic purification of the “elite” and propped up mediocre but obedient “thinkers” in the media, those people at the bottom do as usual; they follow the herd and are unable to think by themselves and detect the absurdity.
Canada is Zionist and Bandero-Fascist occupied territory. It is the first branch of the Five Eyes + Israel in which the regional CEO (PM Hairdo) is actually proud of his position in the Five Eyes hierarchy – under Israel. Sovereignty? Forget it. It’s gone.
PM Hairdo. Excellent.
I don’t agree. The Americans richly deserve the very bad times that are coming their way. Their passivity in the face of so much evil, and in fact their active participation in it (“defending our freedom; supporting our boys”) is almost criminal in its stupidity and arrogance. Do you think the atrocities committed by “our boys” from the beginning of this republic and throughout its bloody history is blameless?
Rikko,
You can’t argue with diseased minds, but the vast majority of brainwashed Americans, are completely innocent, and also nice people. It is not their fault, that their indoctrination has turned them into impoverished fat useless zombies..who are no threat to the world whatsoever.
Americans are victims too.
Some of the lunatics are playing war games with real war machines, who think if they get shot dead, they can put another dime in, and get a new life and press Go.
What’s happenning is and incidious attack on innocent Americans who are so brainwashed they don’t know what is going on, and are in no position to defend themselves, unless they turn off their TV.
Tony
They are just stooge goyim, dumb muscle to serve the interests of the Talmudic master race.
They are able to find 3,000 porn sites on the net, but they can’t find alternative media, Here we did find them, in my case 20 years ago. Why can’t they? Because they don’t want to go beyond CNN & Foxnews.
If the media tells them that they must accept millions of refugees because it will boot the economy, they call it fake news.
If the media tells them that they must bomb country X or Y, or that the Russians are sadistic neanderthal cavemen who bomb hospitals for the fun, it is no longer fake news. Because it boost their superiority complex.
People believe what they want to believe, they are simply not interested by any narrative that is not americano-centrist
well said, jfb. unfortunately, your assessment seems very realistic to me.
“Al Udeid Air Base hosts an estimated 10,000 U.S. troops”
The countdown to WW3 has begun. While fools lauded Putin’s servile agreement with Saudi Arabia, claiming this put KSA on Russia’s side, ***today*** Saudi Arabia issued effectively a joint statement with Israel praising Trump’s moves on Iran. Yes Putin emboldened the wahhabi state once again- a state that only a year ago promised to turn Syria into a graveyard for Russian citizens.
The king of Saudi Arabia entered Russia as a ***god***. Allowing that West puppet in was a giant mistake- but allowing him in with all his grandeur was unforgiveable. During the height of the British Empire, non-loyal leaders of the lesser foreign nations were forced to literally grovel on their knees before lowly British officials. Only if that visiting leader swore and proved complete loyalty was he granted pomp and ceremony.
Iran is literally friendless in the region- all it has are fair-weather friends of passing convenience. The regional nations look upon Russia as a total joke- a diplomatic failure. They couldn’t care less about what Putin thinks- because they have all assessed Putin very carefully, and correctly concluded he will protect nothing but direct Russian interests. Putin’s recent creeping to Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia was the last straw. It proved to regional powers that only the West is a ruthless strongman to be feared, respected and obeyed.
Trump is taking America to the final stage that has to be reached for a World War. America no longer pretends it has to respect any diplomatic rule- especially the rules of the UN. And this has to happen when a great power is going to real war. So Trump tears up the Iran agreement. And then he goes further- full nazi with the declaration that the military powers of legally UN recognised governments can be designated as ‘terrorist’.
Zionist America has stated that ‘terrorists’ have no rights under any rule of war.
Here’s the thing- while most of you were bedazzled by the N Korea psy-op, Trump ended the USA membership of the Vienna Convention (with the grabbing of Russian diplomatic property) and the Geneva Convention (with the declaration that ‘terrorists’ have no rights under the rules of war). Even Adolf Hitler never quite went this far.
Now Trump is free to pre-emptively move against any nation on the planet, using any means. Of course he ain’t going for Russia yet- he needs the active mental support of more citizens of the West for that last demonic power to be unlocked. But Iran is the final stepping stone to WW3. Iran takes the West ‘nuclear’ (the strikes on Iran will use massive numbers of ‘small’ nuclear warheads)- the final taboo needed to begin the ultimate unlock. And if this sounds like computer game terminology- well sorry the analogy is sadly perfect. All escalation requires unlocks, for that is how we get from here to there- or a war that will “be over at Christmas” to a war using poison gas and the mass deliberate starvation of civilian populations.
Britain, France, Germany and Canada are actively preparing their military in the Middle East for the coming mass strikes on Iran- alongside the USA. What you still don’t know- because you still believe the zionist press no matter how much you fool yourselves otherwise- is that Trump will have the active support of every major leader of the West for his Iran War. The fig leaf narrative excuse for this is still being decided- but it will be as pathetic as the “WMD in Iraq” excuse. And it will likely take pretty much the same form.
It is still being argued over as to which non-American nation will host the ‘proof’ that Iran is a clear and present danger. Britain is the logical venue, but the Deep State planners think there is a ‘trust issue’ – so France is probably going to be the ‘winner’. MI6 has a whole army of supposed Iranian ‘informers’ who are ready to appear at the french press conference describing the crimes of the Iran regime. While a handful of you here will know the name “curveball”, 99.999% of Humanity has zero interest in knowing the facts of previous psy-ops- and that includes 99.9 percent of people who call themselves ‘awake’. So running the same lies as they did with ‘curveball’ poses no danger – it worked before and it is going to work again.
The press of the West is already ramping up the demonisation of Iran, just as it did of Libya before that nation was put to the sword. In the coming days, zionist polling organisations will lie that a majority of people want war on Iran. And most people here still think the poll organisations are ‘scientific’.
Today America is provoking Iran as it did Japan before WW2. And the comparison is a mechanical one, not a ‘moral’ one, for I know Japan was an utterly wicked Empire power- I merely point out that American methods are the same. Iran cannot win by playing a ‘diplomatic’ game of ‘holier than thou’ as some here will claim- for Iran, as I said, has no friends or allies, least of all Russia. Libya tried the route of bending over and lowering its trousers.- peaceniks are always told that response is bound to work.
But a more recent example will serve most of you better. In the immediate run up to Tony Blair’s invasion of Iraq, Blair told Saddam that if he turned over his scientists to the USA, there would be no war. Most of you have probably forgotten this. The filthy zionist press stated that Saddam’s refusal to do so “proved he had WMDs”.
Those that talk of America losing in Iran horrify me. America destroyed Libya. America destroyed Syria. In neither target nation did America care what happened after the destruction. To claim from the safety of a home in the USA that Iran “wins” if some citizens there, in the ruins of their cities, wave their national flags in ‘defiance’, is just beyond words.
Some people told you the sanctions on Russia would never last- and now they are indefinite. I said once you allow a demon to stick you with a knife, the demon will never stop twisting the knife. It’s kinda obviously when you think about it, rather than get your opinions from the ‘proper’ newspapers and ‘serious’ TV debate shows. I fear the same people are telling you that the West isn’t going to use every means at its disposable to destroy Iran.
Here’s what really bothers me. Every American TV show and film makes it clear that only a fool seeks a ‘fair’ fight. Remember Sean Connery in ‘The Untouchables’? “They bring a knife, you bring a gun- they put one of yours in the hospital, you put five of theirs in the ground”. That’s any sensible person in a planned fight every- regardless of morality. And the USA is utter evil. With Iran, America is not bringing a knife to a gun fight. It is not bringing a gun to a gunfight. It is not bringing an army to a gunfight. It is bringing an arsenal of WW3 class weapons to a gun fight- just like the jewish terrorist state of Israel in Gaza.
All, and I mean ***all***, and I really really mean ***all*** Iran can do in response is bomb its neighbours with its many ground-to-ground missiles. And these strikes will mostly be imprecise, allowing them to be demonised, and they will hit nations ***pretending** to be ‘neutral’, allowing them to be demonised, and they won’t harm the West’s war efforts in the slightest. Iran has already lost and tens of millions of Iranians are going to die. Blair murdered two million Humans in his limited (in comparison) Iraq invasion. The war on Iran will make the invasion of Iraq look like a teddy bear’s picnic.
But Iran’s destruction will unleash a new type of war thinking on the planet- which is the only real reason Iran has to be sacrificed. Russia will have no choice but to invade some of its neighbours to prepare against NATO, allowing Russia to be demonised. China will have to vastly accelerate its war efforts in readiness for conflict with the USA- and today China is already at full tilt in this regard- designing new weapon systems at an astonishing rate. The Orwellian police state in the West will clamp its jaws tight for the first time, making every citizen a war drone.
The Internet in its current form is dead. Russia, China and the West have advanced plans to end the international connectivity of the web, and to convert it to local highly censored sub-nets. No VPN will work because international packet routing to the ‘wrong’ nations will be prevented. Blogs like this one will be labelled as ‘subversive’ and closed down.
Sadly our time to make a difference has passed. Russia’s time to make a difference has passed also. Putin could have announced a mutual defence agrrement with Iran- but Putin chose to bend the knee to Israel and Saudi Arabia instead. My advice to all of you is to look to your own lives before it is to late. It is time to express to your loved ones exactly how you feel about them. Do not die with regret in you heart. Do not stand watching that nuclear missile approach your city, waiting for the warhead to emit the last photons your retina will ever process for your living brain, thinking about all the things you could have said to the people you care about.
Say them now or in the very near future. Or write down your thoughts in a card or letter. You may think we have a little time and will receive a little warning, and I do too- but the logical part of my brain reminds me of ***Game Theory***. Trump’s move forces the leaders of Russia and China to hover their fingers above their respective red buttons now. Their is no other sane way to play this game. Trump is presaging World War, and the West has repeatedly express its willingness to pre-emptively strike Russia and China. The full nuclear resources of all the major powers could literally be flying at any moment from now on. In a ***real*** gunfight the man who fires first always wins if both are skilled- you can never win by ‘responding’.
I know many of you will want to put your hands over your ears and say “I’m not listening”, but our tears and terrors are a poor excuse to not do the only right things we have left to do. In the face of pure demonic hate all we have left is love. Our souls are immortal. But how we live our lives is what matters. The group strategy of faint-heartedness has doomed us as a collective- but as individuals we can still stick two fingers up at the demons as we embrace everything that really matters.
But if you spend your last days with your head in the sand, pretending we have nothing to fear, and that everything will be ‘alright’, you are really going to hate yourself when the end does come. Throwing useless words at the demons telling them they can’t win cos- reasons- will leave you heartbroken at the end.
Very long post, indeed. But actually it’s ONLY your opinion. Not a reality. You can’t predict because your not fully informed. All the really serious events are NOT publicly known.
minor change to an ad hominem sentence … mod
Your comment is totally inaccurate and prejudiced as far as Russia goes. No, Russia is not a “joke”. When Saudi Arabia saw it’s policy in Syria fail, it turned to Russia, as was natural. Currently it is conducting its oil sales in dollars, and the future of the dollar as a reserve world currency is none too bright, with Russia and China preparing the introduction of gold backed rubles and yuans. What do you think the King of Saudi Arabia talked about with Putin ? Even Venezuela has discarded oil sales in dollars, beginning to use Chinese yuans. The latest news from the EU is that it will turn towards Russia if the US cancels its acceptance of the nuclear treaty with Iran. No, Russia is not a “joke”, but an important factor in the emerging Eurasian Economic Union.
I think you’re being far too optimistic. Uncle Sam’s satraps in the EU will quickly fall into line.
Yugoslavia was destroyed and Russia and China did nothing – even when the Chinese embassy was deliberately bombed. They just facilitated and enabled and gave diplomatic cover to US aggression.
After Iraq had been destroyed in 1991, they did the same. They supported US sanctions that killed half a million Iraqi children under 5 from 1991 – 2003.
They both voted for the destruction of Libya in 2011, enabling US aggression and giving it diplomatic cover.
They colluded with the US over Iran. Russia invented bogus excuses not to complete Bushehr, as it was contracted to do, or to supply the S300s Iran had paid for. They supported US sanctions on bogus WMD pretexts which they knew were bogus and which they said were bogus. But they did it anyway. Children died as a result.
They are now doing the same with North Korea.
They have done all this in a futile attempt to appease America. Even as NATO was expanded hundreds of miles to the east in breach of commitments given to Gorbachev. Even as Russia and China are surrounded with military bases and threatened both with a first strike. Even as America is sponsoring Islamic terrorism against both countries. Even as America is waging economic warfare against Russia and threatening China with the same. Even as America is interfering in the internal politics of both countries and threatening regime changes. Even as an unprecedented campaign of vilification and demonization is mounted against both countries. Even as Russian diplomatic premises are attacked.
All Russia and China do is just take it as they are endlessly humiliated and bitchslapped by America, who insist on calling Americans their “partners” and “colleagues.” It would be very unwise indeed to expect Russia or China to grow some balls if any of these countries are attacked.
On the contrary, I am very realistic. The Federal Republic of Yugoslavia was bombed by NATO in 1999, when Russia had it’s problems. It helped as much as it could. The NATO air campaign was observed by Russian intelligence officers, and they had much to see, namely the Serbs and Montenegrans shooting down 137 NATO planes and 25 choppers, giving Russians plenty of data on NATO tactics. Russia of 2017 is not what it was back in 1999. Times are changing. Yes, both Russia and China are surrounded by NATO bases, but at what cost financially, and how long will this last ? Over here in Europe, where I live, NATO has become unpopular, while the US has done tremendous damage to its esteem with its imperial policy. Unfortunately, the Washington political establishment is incapable of understanding what the rest of the world is thinking about it. That is what is dangerous, somebody living in a delusional world.
I think you’re whistling in the dark.
Russia and China were weaker at the time of Yugoslavia. But their behaviour hasn’t changed since. There is a consistent pattern of self destructive appeasement over more than 20 years, in different situations.
Whenever I raise Yugoslavia, Iraq, Iran, Libya, North Korea, and other cases, you get the same excuses coming up all the time, but they are wearing very thin.
Oh, but Yeltsin did that and he was drunk. Oh, but Medvedev did that. Oh, but Russia was weak.
There is always an excuse, but the obsequious contemptible grovelling, the futile attempts to ingratiate themselves with Uncle Sam – they remain the same.
Russia and China need to stop dropping their trousers and bending over – but they won’t.
When Uncle Sam destroys Venezuela, Iran, North Korea, they will do NOTHING.
Just like they have in all similar situations over more than two decades.
Then when they are out of the way, and Russia and China are both far more vulnerable, they will be targeted.
When Libya fell Putin angrily commented:
“Who gave NATO right to kill Gaddafi?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw5Ij_RFJ1Q
He got Crimea back for Russia, without firing even a gunshot.
He was not about to see Assad also murdered as Gadaffi was, and Syria turned into a second Iraq and Libya, losing Tartus. So he forcefully boycotted the zio-neocon NWO plans for Syria. With that he stood up against the most powerful enemies of Russia, and checkmated them in the Middle East.
Soros shows what it happening for the zio-globalists: all his schemes and billions are failing to accomplish his plans. He is wanted for crimes in Russia and now there is even a anti-migrant government in Austria as of today… I almost feel sorry for that arrogant man. And he’s a symbol for the zio-globalists.
Mark, It would be better if that last post of yours and many others had never been written.
It may embarass you some day. And quantity does not become quality. Pace Lenin… in Hell I hope, where he will soon have much company.
USA has long ago ditch USD$ in favor of Cryptocurrency!
Is there any Gold behind Cryptocurrency?
[good grief]
In between the fear-mongering and the uninformed denunciations of the SinoRussian leadership — you would have to be exotically endowed with secret access to judge in this context their actions in the shadows — I wonder if I could offer a respectful disagreement.
The burger-king of Saud entered Russia humiliated by his own пошласт and a very likely EW-jammedd golden escalator, like the cliched bumkin struck it rich, which is exactly what they are. Pragmatically, it was a coup getting the Sauds to step over the line and position themselves for a jettison of the petrodollar. Humoring the boors is the cost of diplomacy.
Iran friendless ? In international relations, all things being equal, there are only interests. SinoRussian duo is transcending that by degrees, but still, let’s be mature about this. Regional nations look upon Russia as a total joke ? What planet are you on ? The entire region is gravitating around the Kremlin, from Libya, through Egypt, Syria, Iraq, etc. …what bs is this you write (reading a bit further). The West as a strongman ? We’ll see.
Trump and the Iran deal. The U.N. Yawn. I’m sorry, but I don’t see all this as a prelude to proximate hot war. I give it a 25% chance of happening. More likely, Israel and the wagged dog are planning a long, arduous period of tepid war, containment, diplomatic, economic, political maneuvering.
If I’m wrong, I expect China even more than Russia to put intense pain into the military sinews of the PNAC/Neocon crew. The SinoRussian duo has been on a gold binge of late, and they’re setting up some of the last stages of the hanging of the petrodollar. This event could well be a precipitant for hot war, but, it isn’t here yet.
… All the rhetoric about terrorists spun by Trump is just hot air. It’s bellicose rhetoric, and is typical in a leadup to hot war, but it’s also typical leadup to nothing in particular beyond tepid war.
So, reading the rest of your panicked missive… It’s implausible to me that the SinoRussians haven’t been war-gaming this for a decade plus. I think you are right that if Iran is attacked it’s essentially WW3, this I agree with. For China & Russia it’s a clear red-line, but also a tremendous opportunity in military terms. We’ve suspected for a long time that they’ve been providing all kinds of technical and other assistance. I can’t say what to expect but to expect the unexpected, in military terms, if indeed there is a hot war style attack on Iran.
Things could kick off in spectacular fashion, and don’t assume it would remain confined to theatre.
I don’t see any reason to panic however. Equanimity, gratitude for this life.
I certainly think your criticism of the Russian leadership is not accurate.
anyways, Cheers!
I would rate everything you’ve written as 100% wishful thinking.
If you are right nobody would be more delighted than me.
The performance of the Ru leadership ? Wishful thinking ? Don’t think so.
Trump’s performance 99% hot-air, rather than lead-up to hot war ? Wishful thinking ? I have no wishes in this regard, so, unlikely. I could be wrong of course, but wish got nothing to do with that.
Military prognosis ? As in Pentagon suffering likely defeat. Again, I could be wrong, but objective analysis tells me that the situation in a perfect opportunity for SinoRussian interests to use Tier-1 capabilities against US-MIC in a deniable/proxy context, and that they’ve been wargaming this, and preparing for this, for a decade now. I hope I don’t come off as a predictor of anything, still less as wishful in any regard, but I see this as the likely condition of things. How it actually would go we would have to see.
Nothing wishfully attractive about a 25% chance of total WW3.
The Saudi Burger-King’s Vegas-like foray into Moscow presented as some kind of humiliation for the Russians was rich, and I think I’ve characterised it more realistically.
Where now is the wish ?
Russians were appalled and disgusted by the antics of Sodomite Arabia but they are used to worse. They had to watch the legions of Khazar fake jews murdering them and their familes for almost four generations. It is not the nation which says ‘Never Again’ again and again, that you should take seriously but the nation which is silent on the subject. It likely lives by the motto that ‘revenge is a dish best taken cold’ and that ‘one should not be a vulgar blabbermouth in vain’.
Twilight,
“The king of Saudi Arabia entered Russia as a ***god***”, you posted.
The God of Arabia as you define the old King, had to walk down the stairs of the escalator that somehow ceased to function midway. I doubt it was not intentional. It smacked of what the Chinese did to Obama, forcing him to exit AF One via the rear door.
Your god was met by deputy Rogozin,not one of the top echelon Russian officials like Prime Minister or Foreign Minister. Though Rogozin is important in sales of military weapons systems the “god” wants to save his godly ass and godly kingdom.
It’s real work to not go off on you personally, but your ‘logic’ is large enough and your ‘facts’ are wide enough to pierce with the simple truth of things as they are, not as you conflate them to fit your bitterness at God knows what.
Carry on, brother Twilight. The Vineyard is strong, and even irrationality provides exercise for us from time to time. Like pulling weeds in a garden.
Once Upon A Time might be a nice way to begin. Fiction deserves a good opening line.
I am convinced that especially Americans must hate the comparison between their funky-groady Georgian and pseudo-Victorian, ‘Greco-Roman’ columns redux world and the medieval, Constantinopolitan to baroque and beyond splendors of Russia, which drove even a Napoleon mad.
And in case you think archaeology does not matter to them, look at what they and their proxies do to a Dresden, Montecassino and Baghdad and Palmyra. Is it just ‘because they can’ (the reason Bill Clinton came up with for putting his penis in the mouth of a worshipful Whitehouse intern)? Or is it out of, green and venomous envy?
Imagine how the House of Sod feels, coming from their ersatz sand-bar universe of American Shopping Malls in the desert, golf courses in the Gulf, roads to nowhere, and solid gold bidets to the eclectic New Byzantium of modern Moscow.
‘ … you allow a demon to stick you with a knife, the demon will never stop twisting the knife …’
Sounds like my ex-wife
It all sound plausible …. inevitable ….
Surely the powers that be are not that stupid as to invoke the end of days
But ….. there are a lot of fundamentalist Christians in the beltway, and they frighten me, they really frighten me because of their certain belief in an after-life. Christians have a long history of killing people who do not agree with them, of being impervious to the suffering of others who are not ‘one of them’.
However, in regards to Israel, why would it bring the edifice crashing down upon it? Unless, of course, they believe a ‘win’ is possible.
How is this for ‘out there’ thinking ……
The Jewish State was created out of guilt. The profound guilt felt be the ‘west’ after WWII for the holocaust. Would the ‘sacrifice’ of a few of their own be worth the creation of Israel. The holocaust is the gift that keeps on giving. A master stoke in world history.
The sacrifice of nations is but a small step from there …….
Or ….. with a daughter called Naomi …. am I being too cynical?
I think I will call my ex-wife and ask her …. after all, she knows the true nature of evil quite well.
“Something is happening, but I don’t know what it is”
Speaking of the psychotic self-chosen ones, big date coming NOV2. Not just an anniversary date, but the 100th of the Balfour declaration.
Then, Nov6 (adjusted for calendar, because remember there it truly was the October revolution), they have that 100th in Russia.
BTW, if I was the ruler of Shady Wahabbia, I wouldn’t be doing any celebratory sword dance or even an AK-47 dance till the goods are delivered on that s-400 contract.
Especially so if it’s got the signature of putin’s scheming duplicitous fifth columnist sidekick on it, which we know what happened to the IranianS-300’s over that.
Worth less than the paper it’s printed on.
all Iran can do in response is bomb its neighbours with its many ground-to-ground missiles
The genocidal entity currently styling itself “Israel” will be blasted out of existence, and that’s some comfort.
Traducteur…
That is A LOT of comfort!
Regards,
Carmel by the Sea
To Twilight/ Saker
Very shrewd and sombre assessments from The Saker and Twilight – thank you for posting that.
Like The Saker, I was convinced war was imminent in 2007, and was glad to be proven wrong.
The final piece of the jigsaw seemed to have fallen into place when some refuelling aircraft were moved into Bulgaria.
Like him, I’m expecting war again now. I don’t see how it can be avoided.
Maybe even a simultaneous war against Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, Russia, China.
Many years ago (1980s) I had a small involvement in civil defence, involving nuclear weapons, playing about with Geiger counters and bunkers and so on. The whole thing seemed pretty ludicrous at the time, and nobody really took defence against those weapons seriously. I forgot everything I knew about it, but in 2007 I went so far as to warn relatives I thought war was imminent. Last year I could see the present situation coming, though I thought Clinton would be the one inciting war, not Trump. I thought his election made war very marginally less likely. Recently I tried to remember the 1980s work and checked again on the effects of nuclear weapons. I also thought about painless methods of suicide that I have seen for the most extreme eventualities.
What worries me most is that the leadership of all western countries, not just Trump, not just America, is the worst in its history – arrogant, corrupt, deluded, ideologically driven, irredeemably ignorant. We need a Bismarck or a Metternich or a Talleyrand, and instead we have a group of kindergarten children high on LSD.
I don’t expect very much from Russia or China, either. They have consistently stabbed other countries in the back for over 20 years and acted to enable or facilitate US aggression, in a futile effort to ingratiate themselves with Uncle Sam – Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Iran, North Korea. They would probably sit back and do nothing if Iran and North Korea were attacked. Anyone who expects any more from them is probably deluding themselves.
Very sombre times indeed.
It is quite possible that the old MAD paradigm will avert war after all, since aggression against Iran would inevitably result in the destruction of the genocidal entity currently styling itself “Israel”. Leaves the Zios in something of a bind, but there really is not much that they can do about it.
mark
China warning against Regime Change, is not sitting back. It’s a direct warning to the US.
Forget about 1990’s China & Russia past policies against the hegemon. US is much weaker now vs then. (90’s)
I can’t see this. Look how they have just rolled over on N. Korea. Same pattern as for past 20 years.
The Russians and Chinese haven’t rolled over at all……there’s something called “Diplomacy” that you Americans should try once in a while.
The Russians & Chinese don’t want a major war on their doorstep.
Of course they’re both against North Korea developing nuclear weapons…..as it will only lead to others like Japan & South Korea to develop them too.
I think that Putin slapping sanctions on DPRK, with NK delegation is Moscow, is beyond the pale.
He did the same with Iran in return for worthless promises about missiles not being stationed on Russia’s borders.
List of countries Russia has stabbed in the back –
Yugoslavia Iraq Libya Iran North Korea
Reply to “Twilight”-
Hard to say whether you are sincere in your note or doing “predictive conditioning” to crystallize images of a desired future in reader’s heads. Assuming you are sincere, the advice to “tell others about how we feel about them before the end” is still pretty lame. Of course that is a good thing to do in any and every case. Whether or not there is a WW soon, you and everyone else will surely die eventually. We all know that. You could die today of an accident, so your advice is not specific to a hot war.
Also important to note is the other side of that equation: Even if a WW is coming in 2 days, 2 years, or 2 decades, whatever time we are alive is precious. Living in a fatalistic funk about the end coming is a type of suicide. Being aware and prepared to the extent possible is prudent, but not to the point of destroying our experience of the present moment by filling it with fear.
You can find guidance about how to live and create a proper context for you life in the Bible, even though such a statement may sound like a cliche. In an age where knowledge is deemed precious and wisdom is not even considered as a relevant concept, a sincere person will discover such sensibilities to be only another inversion of the upside-down age we are living through. There actually are good and fulfilling ways to live, even in such times as these.
Part of what you envisage, Twilight, may turn out to be true. Thank you for your post.
twilight,
I pray you’re wrong about almost everything you said. Though I’m fairly certain you are right about one thing.
Love is the only thing we truly hold. It’s the strongest power we have. All creation might never have come about without it. It’s pure music.
This prayer to all. Especially those who’ve hell falling on them.
R
Prayer of Sophia
O Light, Have mercy upon me, for there is no virtue in the
cup of forgetfulness. If chaos were only chaos, I might in time
fall asleep upon the green grass. I might forget that perfect
symmetrical silence: where the angels sing hymns to Thee;
where every voice is a being, and every being a voice, each
turned to its eternal note; where the harmony of the fullness
is silence, as the harmony of the rainbow is white.
Have mercy upon me, O Light, for I have seen beauty by its
own divinity destroyed, and love by its deepest desire
betrayed. Day and night all the lovely abandoned things of the
holy city cry out for redemption, and a lost god looks out of
every human eye. I will never fall asleep upon the green grass,
while the earth rings with the cries of the exiles. Hear my
voice mingled with every prayer. O Light, have mercy upon
me. Amen.
You have one huge flaw in your argument. According to your theory, Trump is actively working for the military industrial complex, the Empire, the banking cartels, etc. Ok. Well then why the hell do they hate him so much? Why do they permit the media to attack him incessantly every day, with all sorts of fake news? If Trump was really “their man”, then I would assume a simple message from some powerful MIC or banking individual to a media company owner would be enough to calm down the negative press. But obviously that has not happened. Why is this so? I have thought long and hard about this and cannot come to any solid conclusion. What do you guys think?
One of the greatest civilizations of the earth is under immediate danger by the international Zioo-Mafia and their slaves.
Persia produced some of the greatest thinkers and polymathes of human history.
Prophet Mohamed said ” “If knowledge were located in the Pleiades (a constellation of stars), the Persians would surely attain it”.
While Avicenna earned the title of father of modern medicine, Khwarizmi became the father of Algebra, Gaber the father of Chemistry. Al-Biruni a great astronomer and geographer, who inspired Cupernicus and Galelio (both them did not shy to confess this )other Persians wrote the first encyclopedia of Pharmacology. Razes developed many surgical instruments some 9000 years ago. Omar Khayam inspired Decartes who came to this world many centuries later.
The Qanun of Medicine of Ibn-Sina was thought in midieval Europe for more then 600 years. They called it the Bible of the medical schools.
Saadi the great poet and Hafiz inspired giants like Goethe who dedicated one divan for Hafiz.
In the entrance of UN u will find the beautiful poetry of Saadi talking about humanity and empathy toward fellow human.
We should not forget that the concept of Garden, windmill, Balcony etc came from Persians cultures. The words paradise, bazar, pyjama, all have Persian origin.
Many aspect of US constitution is based on Cyrus Cylinder (the first known declaration of human rights).
Rumis mystic poetry and philosophy is well known in the world.
The entire scientific motor behind Islamic Golden age 600-1400 were mostly of Persian origin.
The gangsters still want to destroy this ancient cradle of civilization.
If Iran would only take US dollars for their exports they would suddenly become the good guys. But they, like Russia and China, know that as long as you use the US dollar and financial systems you are not only at their mercy but you are paying for your own enslavement.
They will not break this time. They have all been through it several times from the Opium Wars to the 1990s in Russia to recent decades in Iran. United they stand. Others trying to play both sides like India are choosing servitude instead of a tough road to true freedom (financial).
Look for a war but not an overt one. The neocons know their head is on the block so they will opt for industrial sabotage, insurgency etc. It will not work either.
Don’t be too sure about that.
And don’t expect anything good from Russia or China.
They will sit on their hands and do nothing.
Just like they did in Syria, right? Nothing.
Russia will absolutely facilitate the total defeat of the US effort in Iran
Even if one did not get caught up in the clearly well-financed propaganda blitz & sickening wild-eyed hysteria ginned up on the airwaves by the likes of Jabba the Jones & Rense the Dense that got Agent Orange installed, nor listened to the admonitions of the likes of FW Engdahl, Duke, or Icke (many many clips all over from that time a year ago as proof),all you had to do then was once in, watch & note his long string of appointees & who they are.a few dozen plus this example:
https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.tk3nadijY-6zwJC0ZVAS9QFHC-&pid=15.1
The preparation of the “Apocalypse Theater” goes back centuries (I would say millennia), both through a permanent re-interpretation of old prophecies to make them sound as if they refer to the ‘End of Time’ (and be in fact an action plan, a script), meant to prepare mentally people to accept the inevitability of ‘Armageddon’ and the final victory of ‘Israel’ against Gog Magog (Russia and Persia and their allies ‘the kings from the East’- aka China) and through staging on the ground the conditions which would lead to these wars. Destruction of Christianity is the real goal of ‘Zion’ (and of the deceptively called ‘Christian’ Zionism).
These actions have been thwarted many times, but the planners never lost their nerve, faith, patience and sense of invulnerability, the signs of true fanaticism.
absolutely agree! a tool but very powerful one in the “through a permanent re-interpretation of old prophecies to make them sound as if they refer to the ‘End of Time’ (and be in fact an action plan, a script), meant to prepare mentally people to accept the inevitability of ‘Armageddon..” is the Scofield bible’s “notes” now common in all protestant bibles and their divinity colleges. A review of the changes towards the orientation you describe is easy and readily apparent by comparing the tone of the explanatory note sections in subsequent editions throughout the 20th century , taking a real emphasis since 1948—Oxford off course doesn’t have anything to do with this as copy write owners
This is a great opportunity for the Russian Federation and China to promote the BDS Movement . Anyhow its Not in the US Congress’ court anyway its in the Knesset court ,and this exposer can be beneficial for the Countries that stand up to the Unilateral Zionist decision . I doubt that this will work out at all for Bibi and company . The Israelis may be very capable banksters but they remain piss poor Diplomats.
Saker
“As for Trump, he has become AIPAC’s “punk-ass bitch” (sorry for the rude expression, but in this case I cannot think of any combination of words which could more accurately illustrate Trump’s status).”
Not rude, it is what he is.
“So the USA will go to war yet again, not for any rational reason, but solely because Bibi Netanyahu “owns” Trump and Israel “own” the USA. Yes my dear Americans, far from being “the land of the free and the home of the brave” the USA is a subservient colony of a tiny state in the Middle-East which also happens to be the last officially racist state on our planet. Which makes you neither brave, nor free.”
Exactly. The trump regime essentially has made that jailhouse suka status of the usa, in relation to israel, official now. They promote their zionazi colonial status as if it is something extraordinary and laudable. Literally, the trump/pence regime has taken pindo subservience to israel to never before attained lows. The things are just as treasonous as the bush, jr. regime freakshow. Probably worse.
Trump’s pal, Nuttyahoo, made full use of his announcement to launch another massive land grab in the West Bank. The latest settlement building project is for three times the number of units as created in the whole of 2016.
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/10/netanyahu-unprecedented-settlement/
So either way, Israel benefits. Goys killing each other and/or more settlements. “Never let a crisis go to waste”.
Your news seems to confirm that US President Trump, when it comes to something really important like business, is a man of his word. I have just finished wading through 1000+ comments in Washington Post, and found the following explanation for Trump’s action: During the US election campaign Goldman Sachs and most of US capitalism, together with most EU leaders, were backing Killary Klingon. But Israel PM Nutty Yahoo went out on a limb and was the only “Western” leader to back candidate Trump in public. Yahoo’s friend Sheldon Adelson offered to pay Trump’s election expenses on 3 conditions: 1. Bring Back Bomb,Bomb,Bomb Iran 2. Move US Embassy to Jerusalem 3. Approve more illegal settlements (as you have just reported).
Most WaPo commentators complain that Trump’s turnaround on Iran proves one cannot do business with the USA; I think it proves the opposite.
DNGM
“Most WaPo commentators complain that Trump’s turnaround on Iran proves one cannot do business with the USA; I think it proves the opposite.”
Only if one israel. Otherwise expect they will exploit the “deal” in every way possible at your expense and plan your strategy to counter and accommodate this accordingly.
As for readers of the zionazi wp, and especially those so deeply incased within the zionazi bubble they further their delusions and bother to write comments there, well, you know, they probably watch pindo tv, as well. :-D
The US Command would cream their shorts if allowed to missile strike Iran. However, the war zone is not just Iran. The heart of war with Iran will be fought inside the arrogant borders of BibiLand. Haifa will be toasted to ashes. Tel Aviv and several other cities will be ruined. Missile x100 for each Iranian missile would be the hope of the US and Israel. In fact, 100,000 rockets and hundreds of missiles will befall Israel. And US assets will be hit also.
Ships will be sunk.
Planes will be shot down.
And if Israel chooses to invade Syria and mount more of the Golan, a disaster worst than 2006 will befall the IDF.
There will be no rescue by the US Command.
And just maybe, North Korea will contribute a second front with some of their special forces and navy striking South Korea. This would have a huge psychological impact on the US public.
Certainly, American forces in Iraq and Syria will be subjected to Iranian missiles and assaults by Shia militia and PMU forces.
Talk is cheap and air power by missiles is illusory. No longer are America and Israel’s “threats-enemies” cheap-to-knock-off third world regimes. A brief exchange over a few days could cost hundreds of lives. If an attempt to gain command of air space over Iran is launched by the US and Israel, the price will be enormous.
It is a war only the deluded think is possible to win.
Of course, if all the goal is to stir the ME into molten chaos, then they will have their insane way. It’s entirely possible.
Always the hope that Trump, like the Pied Piper, is setting a trap for those who imagine they’re chosen to rule
Well said! Trump is no fool……
The wasp and the Jew were jostling to prevail, and a “European” American Trump sneaked into the WH. Even a scaramuchi is now in with a chance.
You know what scares me in your scenario? US, starts an attack and the moment the first missile falls on Israel, it would be the perfect excuse for Israel to nuke Iran. Not US, Israel. And the whole west media will cry self defense. Iran gets nuked, Trump gets impeached for starting this mess and you actually think that the neocons and their masters care about the actual Israeli casualties on ground? All the big heads are going to be safe.
But what if it is Saudi Arabia that nukes Israel? I believe they have nuclear missiles situated at what used too be Mount Sinai in Arabia.
That’s also what I had in mind, David Robertson. You can look up statements made by Trump the past few years, in which he supports the idea of Ziodi Arabia getting nuclear weapons. You also have statements by Mossad – too lazy to hunt down the sources, but I clearly remember Trump and Mossad being excited about the house of Wahhabism hosting nuclear weapons. This could only be because the plan is to have Ziodi Arabia, rather than Israel proper, launch the attack on Iran, be it nukes, conventional missiles, etc. Remember, Israhell specializes in proxy warfare.
Donald (mad man) Trump is the despicable (Anglo Zionist American) face of pure evil, terrorism, oppression, slavery, barbarism, conquest, wars, nuclear weapons, death, refugee crisis, color revolution, hell, destruction lies/propaganda, racism and global white supremacy etc, etc, etc…
Russia, China, North Korea and Iran and all peace loving nations MUST STAND together without fear against this great CANCER in the earth. The leopard cannot change it’s spots. This will always be AmeriKKKa. (the empire of chaos) The evil system of racism and global white supremacy must be dismantled and replace with a system of truth and justice…
Will Russia and China sit idly by on all fours and watch AmeriKKKa (the empire of chaos, the belly of the beast) attack the great Iran and do nothing?
Yes the US and Europe are so “white suprematist” that they are flooding their own countries with Africans and Asians. I honestly don’t know in which world you are living. Clearly a fantasy world.
“Will Russia and China sit idly by……….”
That’s what they have always done for the past 20 years.
Yugoslavia, Iraq, Iran, Libya, North Korea – you really think this time will be different???
Analyst: ‘Zionist and Jewish Lobby’ Made ‘Blindfolded’ US Withdraw from UNESCO
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201710141058224078-us-israel-unesco-withdrawal-zionism/
“Unfortunately now with the Trump administration and [US Ambassador to the US] Nikki Haley, the new sheriff at the UN, Israel comes before the US, before the Palestinians, before anyone,” said Ramani. “The Israelis and the Americans like to describe their relationship as a ‘special relationship.’ In this relationship, Israel is special and America is the relation.”
“What we are dealing with, unfortunately, is a new administration in the US, in the person of Mr. Trump and all his so-called ‘advisers’ and representatives who are all ultra-right Zionist Israeli supporters,” Ramani added. “What we are dealing with here now is America being totally occupied by the Zionist movement and the Jewish lobby in Palestine.”
“It’s about time for the people of the US, who we have no ill feelings against, nor have we ever caused them any trouble, to say ‘this is our country, this is against our interests, it’s about time that we play fair.’ We don’t want anybody to be on our side. We want decent human beings, the god-fearing citizens of the US, to be on the right side of history, and not to listen to the propaganda that is perpetrated every day on Fox News and CNN.”
Ramani expounded upon his beliefs, claiming that the Zionist lobby in Washington “convinced [then-US president] Woodrow Wilson to come into the first World War because they were promised by Britain that ‘if we win the war, and we cannot win the war without the support of the US, then we will give you Palestine as a Jewish homeland for the Jews.’ A homeland is not a state, is not a country.”
“America keeps following Israel around blindfolded,” he said, and gives the state billions of dollars of tax money, the latest weapons and weapons technology, and political and diplomatic cover in the UN. “Israel is untouchable.”
“The Controversy of Zion” by Douglas Reed is a great read to get the full details of how WWI and WWII was stirred by Zionists in the British and the American government. Ramani studied history well. The Zionists within the British and American governments stirred up WWI to get Israel as a homeland for Jews. This book gives the names and details how they did it. He also warned the world way back in 1956, when this book was written,that the Zionists are planning for a WWIII. He couldn’t get this book published until the late 1970s – more twenty years later. This book is a must read for our time.
That is an interesting read, though some may consider parts of it ‘controversial’.
If you drop ‘“The Controversy of Zion” by Douglas Reed’ in a search machine, you might find a downloadable pdf of this book.
To avoid possible legal issues, I’m not linking directly to that.
I’ll leave it to readers what they think of it. It’s very interesting indeed, but I have my doubts on some things too. I still have my doubts on the ‘Protocols’, for instance.
But, read for yourself.
Cheers, Rob
Reed sticks to facts. It is not about Protocols. He was a one of Britain’s top WWII correspondents. He met and interviewed many of the people leading Britain and Europe while a correspondent of the London Times since 1921. He warns in the book about the great danger to the world that the Zionism had created and does still today ( written in 1956 – same thing going on). It has fully documented facts about how the Zionists took over the policies of Britain and the US in the WWI era and continued to do so every since. (1956 he noted, same today).
Reply to Bobjil on October 14, 2017 · at 7:56 a
Amen ! Just check out the bibliography to verify the quality of clairvoyant Douglas Reed’s sources. Unfortunately the masses were and still are geopolitically illiterate/braindead … All the best … TMWNS
“Hassan Nasrallah, he recommended that the Jews who recently moved to Israel to get the hell out before the next war begin. He is also right. … An Iranian retaliatory counter-attack on Israel is, therefore, only logical.”
Indeed the Israeli situation is precarious. If they stumble and a critical mass of infrastructure is affected then there is no need for an invading Persian army — the Palestinians are already there, and together with sympathetic Arabs in surrounding regions, will be quite capable of at least pushing the Zionist Occupation to the 1967 borders — if not to the sea.
Watch Egypt. With Russia’s facilitating Turkey’s rapidly realigning with Tehran and installing S-400 like defenses throughout the ME including KSA and Egypt the ancient regional strategic triangle is now reemerging: Constantinople-Tehran-Cairo. All else are cross-roads.
Syria was the test case and the steady success on physical and psychological levels has changed the alchemy. The long-term value of usd$ fiat is in question and the Saudi regime’s ‘pilgrimage’ to Moscow clearly shows where they see their 2030 future — aligned with (and possibly within) the SCO sphere.
Now that the ISIS (Israeli Secret Intelligence Services) has apparently positions their organ eating shock troop ISIS (Daesh) assets in the Golan Heights — whether as future defense or bait for Hezbollah — we are looking for some likely escalation in psychological war likely leading to physical conflict between Israeli and surrounding regions. Jordan won’t be spared and if the 4ft dwarf 1/2 Anglo ‘king’ is removed then another vector is activated.
The better longer term outcome is if Putin & Co can keep the lid on this pressure cooker (as they largely have done) until the time is right. However, with the US Reality TV Show Host now completely zombiefied, the Jewel Wasp parasitoid par excellence (Nut-an-yahoo) is poised to breed its its dark magic into the global commons. The ‘confidence’ in confidence-trick is ebbing fast. The US MIC (the only economy left, stupid) needs to shift inventory. The domestic situation is rancid. An ‘external’ event is needed desperately — North Korea or Iran, whichever has the lesser ‘big’ buddy neighbor.
I personally see much of it as bluster but there is a real chance that something will go ‘not-according-to-plan’ and even a carefully laid chessboard cannot survive a ham-fisted moron lurching out of control. Impeachment? No so sure on that, and Pence, although more sane, would be even more dangerous with religious inclinations.
Saker. Your analysis was correct all along. But it didn’t happen.
It wasn’t your analysis that was a failure, it was the failure of the US to execute according to your analysis, which consistently spelled out exactly their desire and even their intent, but not their capability – or rather, their lack of capability.
What we are seeing thanks to your retrospective is that the situation we see today so clearly – in the total demoralization and corruption of the US military – was actually the situation throughout these last ten years. It just wasn’t so obvious, not even to you.
Slowly at first, then all at once, the truth of the US impotence begins to dawn on the entire world.
Yes they will rage against the true tide of history. But what you said about how Iran would fight this war then says how the US will fight this war now: “Riding out the attack and letting the Neocons pay the political price for their folly would be the most likely Iranian response.”
The US and Israel will punch themselves in the mouth with every action they attempt to take against Iran. Their ability to execute is flawed beyond redemption. They cannot even land the first punch. We will see it go astray, or fall in the sand, or kill its own. And so it will continue, as the world watches in astonishment, and as Hezbollah keeps score in the progressive ruin of Israel.
Your analysis has been correct all along. It just remains to connect the dots between your analysis and the actual events on the ground over time. And then we will see clearly where we are today.
Safe. And in a new world being born.
So friend, no more Grieved, just Rejoiced!
I don’t think this complacency is justified.
You can talk about riding out the storm.
Syria and Lebanon, and Iraq, have done that, in a sense, but all those countries have been destroyed, and millions are dead and maimed and destitute.
Now the US may suffer some real pain, but that isn’t much consolation to all those people.
re: Shabbos goy….yes and he did it ‘ eruv shabbat” on Simchat Torah. Total tribal symbolism.
About a week also ago, I read from weibo that some Russian analysis think there will be a war between India and pakistan since Indian has put a lot army at the border.
I have found this gem that gives you a perspective of Hindu nationalist thinking: http://www.defencenews.in
Full of ways of trying to undermine Pakistan and China along with US and (less mentioned) Japan.
So US and India meddling in Pakistan, actively engaged in Afghanistan, US has a (hot/cold) with Iran, what are the everyone’s opinion of Indian is trying to do here? Who are you afraid of more, the Indians or the Americans if they (or Indian) succeed at breaking up Pakistan, and Afghanistan?
IMHO, I see a disaster for people north of Pakistan, Iran and central Asia, Russia will no longer be themselves, but I would like to see what the Saker and everyone’s opinion.
No chances of India-Pakistan war right now. No army lined up by either India or Pakistan. Yes, they are shelling each other in Jammu area. Pakistan generally don’t shell Kashmir which is Muslim majority. But that’s a routine affair. Before the snow gets piled up, Pakistan has to put the trained terrorists in Indian Kashmir. That’s a routine affair.
India has a neutral to friendly relation with Iran (and Iraq as well). Even during Iran-Iraq affair, Indian ships were never targeted in the ports of these countries. Russians need to refresh their memories. When Red Army entered Afghanistan, India did not condemn them. President of Afghanistan, Dr. Najeeb was a friend of India. (So was Saddam).
So India does not have any interest in creating chaos in Iran or Afghanistan at any time.
So, let’s stop fear mongering. I have seen similar fearmongering on Doklam issue… but nothing happened there.
Yes, many of us are biased and try to see everything in Black & white. If India is with US on some issue, then it is a bad country while forgetting that India stood with USSR & Russia on most issues. And Pakistan played with US for almost it’s whole life.
“India stood with USSR & Russia on most issues.”
Modi has certainly changed the algorithm. He, like Abe, enjoys the roll of #1 provocateur for the Hegemon. And notice how both have come together to dance as a tandem on either side of China.
India and Pakistan have too many nukes to go to war. Terrorism (Pakistan) and help from the Hegemon (India) are what they can afford to use to torment one another. They cannot have war. India is the fast-growing economy. It will be stopped dead, even with a brief, non-nuclear war.
Also, like in every other flash point, Putin, Lavrov and Shoigu have sunk “stakes” into the conflicts. Iran, North Korea and South Asia. Buttressed by China’s infrastructure projects and wealth, each of these areas are hot precisely because the Hegemon cannot abide progress, peace and development for Eurasia and the third world peoples.
The stakeholding of Russia and China is the cooling agent in each of these zones of global risk. These three major conflicts which the Hegemon provokes, (like it does in South China Sea), have brought power and influence to Russia far beyond its capacity as a superpower. But, wisdom and skill magnify Russian importance, like we see its small military footprint magnified by its professional skills and brilliant strategies in the two years since it stepped into the Syrian War.
Since the true aim of the Hegemon is to contain and break China and Russia and prevent the BRI, New Silk Road, EAEU, SCO development, both superpowers have integrated their strategies, tactics and logistics to protect the lesser nations who would be overwhelmed by the Empire.
Geostrategy is non-ideological for China and Russia. It is a logic of mutual defense, allied development (both still are developing nations) and a world view of eventual global harmony where four great civilizations will be preserved and continue to evolve, set against the nihilist, deviant and corrupt “civilization of the West”.
Iran has become next to take the heat. But look for the cooling agent to come from Putin.
Let’s see:
India annexed South Tibet while China was in Korea War,
India Supports Dala Lama since 1959..
India Started to kill Chinese soldiers, and taking Chinese land and started 1962 war while Chinese was in servile famine.
In 1975, when Chinese government was in last days of Mao, and in a transition and struggle, Indian Annexed Sikkim.
Indian marched into Dong Long to appease Trump or to show Trump what it can do for US in 2017.
Pakistan has been a good friend with China when China was very poor, in internal power struggle, or external struggle.
And also not lost to Chinese people, Pakistanis altitude toward Chinese has always being brotherly. They are always happy to see us. As Chinese government spokesman knowledge not long ago. All sectors of Pakistan people has good will toward China. they are our Iron brother.
Too bad association do not mean much in Chinese book. It is deeds that count.
Population
Pakistan 207,774,520 million
Iran 80.28 million
Neither US nor India can break up Pakistan.
I think if Iran is peaceful, there is little possible for Pakistan to get in trouble.
However, If Indian gets upper hands in Afghanistan, and US messing with Iran with war, then Pakistan will be a world of hurt. Indian supposedly already has a few “consulate” at Pakistan Afghanistan border. But with India, you never know what will happen. It spenda 100s billions on weapons while its population is more hungry than war torn Iraq and Mali.
See page 13:
https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/GHI%202017%20-%20full%20report.pdf
The Pakistani population is 207,774,520, not 207,774,520 million.
As per usual, Trump, the NeoCons/Zionists have shot themselves in the foot. They have no idea what is in store for them if they mess with Iran.
How can one accurately assess what Russia’s reaction/action will be? Or China’s? Let alone the rest of the Arab and Muslim world.
And it is Israel that will be wiped out. They imagine that their nukes will protect them.
I won’t even mention what North Korea will bring to the table…..
This idea of war with Iran is not delusional. It is demonic.
I do hope you’re wrong. A war on Iran seems to me to be the end…
But what you’re not taking into consideration since your 2007 analysis is the extent to which facts on the ground have changed. Iran now has strong allies – China and Russia; Turkey is waffling… there may be others. Under what pretext would the orange one start a war? I just do not think it is that simple.anymore … (plus you would have Total crying in its cup over lost profits). And US is hopelessly over-extended elsewhere – not being able to win or even conclude any of its entanglements. My sense is that they missed the chance in 2006-2008, and now they cannot do it anymore.
Let’s hope…
“Under what condition would the orange one start a war?” That is obvious! Without question, it will be a false flag. Most likely a Gulf of Tonkin type theatrics. Instead of North Vietnamese patrol boats, we will be told that Iranian patrol boats attacked.
As I recall, some years back, Brookings or some other sleaze infested think tank came up with a plan to bring about a nuclear development freeze on Iran then over a period of time lay claim that although the US had graciously sought peace, Iran had been secretly continuing development of nuclear weapons. Lo and behold, Obama makes good on the nuclear deal and in a seamless transition of War plans, Trump is now claiming that Tehran is not following through.
Problem is that the script read far better than its implementation. That is because Trump and his neocon cronies are such incredibly bad actors. That said, because Americans can not go beyond seeing everything in black and white (as do all nations infected by delusions of exceptionalism or chosen people syndrome) they will follow the smug half-brained delusions of ever more grandeur right to hell’s gate.
“Under what condition would the orange one start a war?” That is obvious! Without question, it will be a false flag.”
Remember, too, another high probability for a FF to get the thing rolling is that odd news piece about a month ago, can’t even find it now in a search but was on this site, where israhole was evacuating entirely two large towns, size not mentioned but likely thousands each at least, for no reason one on/near syria, other near Lebanon border.
That would be north/northeast of Haifa somewhere.
And the piece about the US army buying of all things an APC/tank active armor protection system, against missiles & RPGs, from the same country.
So things look like again this is all planned, timelined & pre-positioning, especially with that clear Friday 13th announcement, & now to find out someone posted about the aerial refuellers in bulgaria.
With allies like China and Russia, who needs enemies???
How many countries have they stabbed in the back over the past 20 years to ingratiate themselves with Uncle Sam?
Yugoslavia – Iraq – Libya – Iran – North Korea.
Please go back a little bit further in the history of conflict and see if you would extend the time period on which you base your conclusion on, would you change your mind? Post WW2, the Korea and Vietnam conflicts. And the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan. Can we say that the Soviets and China sat idly by?
Yugoslavia and Iraq happened when Russia was hit by a sucker punch, staggering but not out, China was still on the rise but nowhere as strong as now.
Libya happened when Russia was under Medvedev. And in hindsight, perhaps both Russia and China should have expected the low blow they helped facilitate after the UN resolution.
Iran and North Korea, are still not in a hot war situation. And China and Russia are not sitting idly by. War is not just hot war, and both countries and their allies are attacking the dollar system, which is the cause of all the world’s misery.
Can you not see the strategy of buying time, while you get stronger and your opponent get weaker? Countries suffer from sanctions, provocations and so forth, but nobody can escape from this. We can see the endgame, implosion or explosion of the Empire.
Grab your popcorn and enjoy, or not. Its coming.
I just find it childish that, UNESCO being anti-Israel and whatnot, Israel doesn’t leave.
Its’ dumb slobbery Rottweiler USA leaves. No offense intended to the Rottweilers.
I will continue believing that Trump is one giant bluff until I see absolute proof otherwise (i.e. an actual major war). I also seriously doubt that Russia and China would go along with a US attack on Iran (unless they intentionally want to lure Uncle Sam into a trap). Nonetheless, now would be an excellent time for Russia to sell Iran some more serious firepower.
Nate, you forget that there are 3 generals with major post in Trump’s administration, they have points to settle in Afghanistan with Taliban, then Iran and Russia for lose in Syria, and of cause, with China about lost manufacture, and economy.
Maybe the increase of army in Afghanistan is for the fight in Iran.
If there is a war in Iran, then the South and central Asia will be basket cases. It will be bad for Russia and China. The wars already in Kashmir, Afghanistan, Pakistan trying to extinguishing fire, If another war in Iran, the fire will likely burn through Pakistan.
Pakistan is the zipper and stopped ISIS from going south and Indian from going north. If Pakistan is in trouble, then think all those ISIS want to revenge for Cow killing, and Indians want to spill out that miserable over crowded place. Central Asia to Indians will be the current EU to the refuges flood in, except all theses are not Central Asian’s doing.
They will be much harder to get to China, but the central Asia is going to become part of greater India.
There are questions been asked of What if India and China combined…
or What if India, Russia, and China combined…You bet they are not been asked by Chinese or Russian.
To me, the nightmare is the miserable and irrational population of India.
J
Pakistan and China are strategic allies. There will be no “Greater” India or Pakistan.
You make it sound like there are 100 million ISIS in Pakistan.
I think Israel will have to go to war with Hezbollah first. Otherwise, an attack on Iran would result in raining Hezbollah missiles.
No, I do not think there are any ISIS in Pakistan. Pakistan’s interest in ISIS is getting rid of them before they strike out.
But there are 1,000 Million hungry mess in India. If unleashed, will be detrimental to the region than anything else we have seen. From what I see, Modi has nothing to offer to the world other than export is population.
Why is no one talking about possible use of nukes by US and Israel. Am I missing something?
What are they going to Nuke? Gaza? Golan? Southern Lebanon? This is why Iranians have built up support on Israel’s border. They can nuke every square inch of Iran, but they can’t drop a nuke on their own border. Well they can, but it would be suicidal. Check mate.
Nuke use by the USA was mentioned in the article, more can be found in the original one from 2007: https://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ch/2007/07/irans-asymmetrical-response-options.html
I hardly doubt nuke use by Israel. Radioactive fallout is a bitch with Lebanon so close by. And, I guess they reserve them for the Samson option: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
Funny to see that no one bothers Israel to have nukes, and all are crying wolf about Iran supposedly developing them (under international control), while having none.
A likely scenario is for the US to keep an aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf as bait: as we all know they should not be in a constricted body of water within reach of land bases missiles – an ACG should manouver and hit from distance until the enemy’s ability to hit the carrier are gone. But, when the neocons insist the carrier should be in the Persian Gulf because of Umrrka! and predictably guts sunk at the cost of several thousand US sailors we know what the reaction will be. US media will go full out and Iran will be the largest menace since Nazi Germany (al qaeda will be forgotten) , and the US will nuke Iran, to the great satisfaction of (((MSM))).
@“What we are dealing with here now is America being totally occupied by the Zionist movement and the Jewish lobby in Palestine.”
I am puzzled by the fact that so many people don’t realize that America was occupied by the Zionist movement from the very first day of its occupation by the English settlers. Not that this was not well known and reiterated at all times. More recently:
Todd Gitlin and Leil Leibovitz, ‘The Chosen Peoples, America, Israel, and the Ordeals of Divine Election, 2010
“… many Puritans took up and applied the older idea that England enjoyed a covenant with God—a ‘covenant of grace,’ they called it—even if they hesitated at first about whether the Promised Land was to be found in the new England or the old” (p.65).
“Puritan minister John Cotton “preached the ‘land of promise’ to … Puritan voyagers aboard the Arbella as they were about to set sail from Southampton in 1630, drawing his text from II Samuel 7:10: ‘Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more’ ” (p.65-66).
“On July 4, 1776, the Continental Congress instructed Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams to design a seal for the United States….
“A few weeks later, Franklin proposed this image (in his own words): ‘Moses standing on the Shore, and extending his Hand over the Sea, thereby causing the same to overwhelm Pharaoh who is sitting in an open Chariot, a Crown on his Head and a Sword in his Hand. Rays from a Pillar of Fire in the Clouds reaching to Moses, to express that he acts by Command of the Deity. Motto, Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.’ (p.67-68)
From the review of the book@https://www.fantasticfiction.com/g/todd-gitlin/chosen-peoples.htm
“Americans and Israelis have often thought that their nations were chosen, in perpetuity, to do God’s work. This belief in divine election is a potent, living force, one that has guided and shaped both peoples and nations throughout their history and continues to do so to this day. Through great adversity and despite serious challenges, Americans and Jews, leaders and followers, have repeatedly faced the world fortified by a sense that their nation has a providential destiny.
As Todd Gitlin and Liel Leibovitz argue in this original and provocative book, what unites the two allies in a “special friendship” is less common strategic interests than this deep-seated and lasting theological belief that they were chosen by God.
The United States and Israel each has understood itself as a nation placed on earth to deliver a singular message of enlightenment to a benighted world. Each has stumbled through history wrestling with this strange concept of chosenness, trying both to grasp the meaning of divine election and to bear the burden it placed them under. It was this idea that provided an indispensable justification when the Americans made a revolution against Britain, went to war with and expelled the Indians, expanded westward, built an overseas empire, and most recently waged war in Iraq. The equivalent idea gave rise to the Jewish people in the first place, sustained them in exodus and exile, and later animated the Zionist movement, inspiring the Israelis to vanquish their enemies and conquer the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Everywhere you look in American and Israeli history, the idea of chosenness is there”.
The Indians were deemed to be the Canaanites of the Old Testament. And as the old Canaan was occupied in stages, so the New Canaan was occupied in stages. Today it is totally occupied.
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“The Indians were deemed to be the Canaanites of the Old Testament.”
LOL, where did you find that nonsense from? The Canaanites are the biblical name of the people known as the Phoenicians.
History of the Phoenician Canaanites
https://phoenicia.org/history.html
““The Indians were deemed to be the Canaanites of the Old Testament.”
LOL, where did you find that nonsense from? The Canaanites are the biblical name of the people known as the Phoenicians.”
That one factoid may be off-base, but in general I think the thesis holds.
I am currently reading Nathaniel Philbrick’s ‘Mayflower,” and the idea of a “chosen people” idea with a higher spiritual destiny (which becomes a pretext for everything they do) saturates the narrative. One interesting point is that the years-long stay in Leyden, in the Netherlands, blunted somewhat the ideology of the first lot of Pilgrims, as they experienced there for the first time an open, religiously tolerate society, and perceived its advantages to everyone.
But the Puritans who followed later were a far more hard-line group.
Zion as a metaphor is to be found throughout English religious stuff. Such as “daughter of Zion,” in the Messiah.
““Daughter of Zion,” then, does not refer to a specific person. It’s a metaphor for Israel and the loving, caring, patient relationship God has with His chosen people.”
Just check out any hymn book—an older one, where they still provide the info at the top of the hymn on the source of both the melody and the words—to see examples of militant Protestant Christianity. There are plenty of mentions of “Sion” in the sections for “Missions”: E.g.:
“O Sion, haste, thy mission high fulfilling . . .”
BTW, the new hymnals IMO are another good example of the dumbing down of everything.
Katherine
@Mayflower; Daughter of Zion
As you can see by yourself these are not ‘factoids’ but facts, and are not a laughing matter either (see below).
“CANAANITES IN A PROMISED LAND: The American Indian and the Providential Theory of Empire”, by Alfred A. Cave, in American Indian Quarterly, Vol. 12, No. 4 (Autumn, 1988), pp. 277-297 Published by: University of Nebraska Press
“In the ideology of early English colonialism, North America was portrayed as England’s Canaan. The providential theory of Empire, fully developed after the settlement of Jamestown in 1607, invoked Old Testament precedents and analogies to cast the English in the role of God’s new Chosen People. It also appealed to the New Testament to represent England’s occupation of the continent as a crucial and preordained event in God’s struggle against Satan. But the advocates of Christian imperialism were un- certain and divided in their assessments of the place of the Indian in God’s plan for an English America. While some were serenely confident that the English would be the instruments of Indian redemption, others found in the scriptural accounts of the Almighty’s use of the Israelites to exterminate the idolators of Canaan a probable key to God’s plan for those Indians whom the Devil would no doubt impel to resist the coming of the New Elect. The ideology of colonialism provided a rationale for righteous violence which would later color inter-racial interaction on the North American frontier….
The most comprehensive sixteenth century treatise on England’s rights in America appeared in London in 1583. Hakluyt, who reprinted that work in his Principal Navigations in 1589, attributed authorship to Sir George Peckham, a prominent Catholic nobleman who had obtained under Sir Humphrey Gilbert’s patent a substantial land grant in New England which he proposed to use as a refuge for English Catholics.” Peckham expressed distress over assertions that Christians had no right under any circumstances to seize Indian lands or depose their rulers. In refutation of that belief, he appealed to the Old Testament to claim for England prerogatives in North America comparable to those granted by God to the Israelites in Canaan. Christians, Peckham argued, were God’s new Chosen People, and thus possessed a divine mandate to “plant, possess and subdue” those regions of the world still inhabited by heathens and savages. The invasion of Canaan by the Hosts of Israel, the extermination of Canaanite resisters, and the subsequent use of those who submitted as “drudges to hewe wood and carie water” for God’s Elect, in Peckham’s mind, afforded ample precedent for the English successors to God’s favor in their dealings with the “heathens” and “idolaters” who dwelt in the New World Canaan….
Even those who explicitly denied Eng- land’s right to conduct a religious war against the American Canaanites generally accepted uncritically the premise underlying King James’ claim that the Almighty had sent “a Wonderful Plague … to the utter Destruction, Devastation, and Depopulation” of vast regions of Eng- land’s New World Canaan. If the English were God’s Chosen people, the Indians might well be accursed Canaanites, pitiful objects of His special wrath. The religious ideology underlying the English defense of colonialism offered hope only to those Indians who conformed to the ways of God’s new Elect…
Indian resistance to the English presence was interpreted not as evidence of a legitimate conflict of cultures, but as a feeble and foredoomed manifestation of Satan’s opposition to England’s holy mission. The fulfillment of that mission could con- ceivably require the extermination of “savages” who made common cause with the devil. Hence, those who slaughtered non-combatants in Virginia after Opechacanough’s rebellion and in New England during the Pequot War may well have acted in the firm conviction that they were faithfully following God’s command to “execute vengeance upon the heathen.”
“The Indians were deemed to be the Canaanites of the Old Testament.”
LOL, where did you find that nonsense from? The Canaanites are the biblical name of the people known as the Phoenicians.”
You are deriding a metaphor. Wizoz was not speaking literally. The hint is in the words “deemed to be”. In the same way, figuratively, the early settlers saw themselves as ” Israelites” who were recapitulating the Biblical conquest of the Promised Land and were therefore justified in displacing the heathen residents. These 17th. and 18th. century Europeans were deeply influenced by a Biblical worldview and that was the touchstone of their thinking and actions.
There was nonetheless a conflict between the teachings of Christ and this Judaic Biblical world view, derived from the Old Testament and evident today in the actions of the Jewish State in Palestine. So, there were settlers who were more authentic New Covenant Christians who sought a more peaceful resolution of the inevitable confrontation between the new arrivals and the natives living in the land. This tension is evident, I believe, throughout this period.
Carrie has a detailed analysis here of trump’s move, and bs he used about it, world leader reaction and some possible resulting scenarios.
Everything you need to know about Trump’s de-certification of the JCPOA (Iran nuclear deal)
http://theduran.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-trumps-de-certification-of-the-jcpoa-iran-nuclear-deal/
“CONCLUSION:
Donald Trump’s administration has been plagued with allegations of colluding with a foreign government from the moment he entered office and even before. The allegations have been true only with the caveat that it is not Russia with whom Trump is colluding but instead, that place is Israel.
Donald Trump’s speech about Iran was in parts almost identical to the speech Israel leader Benjamin Netanyahu gave weeks ago before the UN General Assembly.
Furthermore, less than 24 hours prior to Trump’s speech, both the US and Israel withdrew their memberships of The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (UNESCO) virtually simultaneously, in a clear sign of policy coordination that stinks of a concerted effort which is now being aimed directly at Iran.
In challenging the JCPOA so brazenly, Donald Trump has shown that he is willing to put an Israeli paranoia about Iran, a paranoia which frequently crosses a line into all out hate, above the interests of both his own country and that of America’s most loyal European allies.
The fate of the JCPOA is now in the hands of the other parties to the agreement, but for the United States, all credibility as a negotiating partner has been lost. This applies not only to Iran, North Korea, Russia, Venezuela and China, but also to the European Union.
“America first”, has effectively become: America last.”
Where I disagree is that the zionazis are not acting out of paranoia, but out of long term geostrategic interests of world domination. Iran isn’t one of their colonies and her independent existence is a major wrench in the works, both regionally and worldwide, to those zionazi delusions of grandeur.
For an unintentional, but illuminating insight of the israeli preferred view of this treason, here is an article by korybko:
United States, Way to the New Palestine
The US Isn’t Wrong For Withdrawing From UNESCO
Written by Andrew KORYBKO on 13/10/2017
https://orientalreview.org/2017/10/13/the-us-isnt-wrong-for-withdrawing-from-unesco/
The article essentially minimalizes and obfuscates the israeli influence, tries to present trump’s decision as an american interest move based upon american interests, and, get this, the duplicious writer attempts to equate this pindo action with Russian legal actions regarding the israeloamerican sacred Jewish mafia oligarch khodorkovsky.
Both Carrie and korybko are right wing writers, but one can surely see the difference between an objective analysis and that of an israeli loyalist.
I cannot take seriously anything Korybko write after him saying that Israel is a great ally of Russia.
Adam Garrie wrltes an excellent article,a good compliment to Saker’s…..we are fortunate to have such writers these days.
This is one of those great journalistic articles which sum up a life’s work and define a cause. “J’Accuse!”: this article brings together threads of quintessential Saker — 911 Truth, the growth of global Zionazism, the desire for justice in a multi-polar world — and twists them into a rope that rings the alarm bell for impending war. As a lover of peace (and a British resident in Israel) I hope, as sincerely as he does, that Saker is wrong. On the other hand, with boyhood memories of WW2, I have seen how our Anglo-Zio-Capitalist buildup of the Nazi war machine as “our bulwark against Communism” — and as a tool to rape the immense resources of Russia — misled our leaders into causing a war that killed 50 million — and produced the opposite of what they wanted: namely, the destruction of Britain as a world power and the emergence of Russia as a super power. I see only one ray of hope: bullies are cowards, and a resolute show of unity (by Russia and China) with the Arch of Stability (Iran, Iraq and Syria) may cow the barking dogs of Anglo-Zio-Capitalism. Europe knows that WW3 will destroy Europe a thousand times more severely than WW2 destroyed Europe; and even the Sheeple of the USA are beginning to have a vague inkling that the perpetual Zionazi chanting of “Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran!” might be bringing Real War to a Walmart near them.
The U.S. is waiting for Putin to die so they can free the Russian people in Operation Enduring Conflict.
Dr. Evil sits in Tel Aviv and his puppet the late great USA. Sometimes we read fiction like the executioner who always gets his man dead. Unbelievable that the USA is filled with popcorn for brains and a willing bitch to boot. Are the sheep of the USA so sedated by the Anglo/Zionist that they can’t see beyond their bugger filled nostrils. I sit here and laugh at the lack of intelligence by the general public, buffoon bibi will be responsible for creating a real holocaust, but this time around the order to exterminate will be found with his signature on it. Israel will not escape their responsibility in this current mess. Can’t blame all those lobotomized government officials who only follow orders from their masters from Tel Aviv. Besides can you actually see the USA which spends more than $600 billion annually and growing. Must be nice for all those companies that get a piece of the american pie. All in all the USA is killing itself, more or less a slow and painful suicide. Which is being guided by a psychopathic religious cult. Are there actually thinking people in the USA or are they all sheep and just keep grazing on the grass before their ultimate slaughter.
Unlikely that there will be a war with Iran.
The US losing the war in Syria will create the necessary crisis of confidence inside the US which will deter it from attacking Iran.
I think Trump has been planning to attack Iran from day one. He immediately increased drone attacks in Yemen and aid to the Saudis there. He also has begun openly aiding ISIS in Syria and now trying to set up a Kurd state there. These are necessary for a pipeline to bring KSA, Kuwaiti, and South Iraq oil if the straits of Hormuz are blocked. I think Trump and his Neo-con pals are crazy to believe the USA can “liberate” Iran from the Mullahs and there will be no guerilla war. This is crazy, but most US generals are deluded nationalists who live in a state of denial.Gen. Mattis testifying that women in combat arms has had no bad results on combat efficiency and there are no problems with homosexuals in the military. Trump fully intends to invade Iran. After all, the US military claims they militarily won the Vietnam war, but were stabbed in the back by Commies, dope fiends, sex fiends and cowards.
Yeh, that American ‘victory’ in one photo — http://www.newsweek.com/last-helicopter-evacuating-saigon-321254
In my opinion the prospective attack on Iran is an attack on another ‘client’ of Russia and as a secondary purpose to spread turmoil in to the southern Russian allies/clients in the usual areas of Russian Federation.
For the last three years increasing deployments of US and nato troops up to the very borders of Russia and Byelorus, as ‘defensive’ moves, is a prelude to an outright attack on Russia Proper. When your enemy, and make no mistake, US is an implacable enemy of Russia, is gathering on your very borders, what are you to think beyond the obvious, that an attack is eminent?
Look at it this way. In the last 3 years, US/nato troops and assets have gathered in Sweden, Finland, Prebaltica next to Kaliningrad and very close to St. Pete, Poland, along the Black Sea coast from Bulgaria/Romania to Ukraine and Gruzya, and south Korea. Turkey being a major coast holder along the Black Sea is at the moment seeming to waver in it’s ‘loyalty’ to nato but, as the saying is on this island, never trust a Turk. Defacto, Russia’s enemies are now lined up from Finland all the way south and east to Gruzya.
Iran is the logical place to attack, either overtly or covertly, to continue with the surrounding and containment of Russia. With these troops comes missile defense systems, officially to defend against Iranian missiles but anyone with the mental capacity somewhat above that of an amoeba crawling through protozoan mush understands that these missile defense systems are specifically against Russia. The fact that Five Points did not manage to acquire this island of Krimu was a significant but not overwhelming setback.
The fact is, from the viewpoint of this old senior NCO, my enemy is now lined up along the western and eastern fences of the corral, peacefully sitting around their camp fires and picking their noses. Their next ‘peaceful and defensive’ act will be Iran but purely as a preemptive action, nothing to do with Russia or her allies and there is no reason for Russia to feel threatened.
I believe in the tooth fairy, too.
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Auslander, dear friend, you nailed it.
Iran, thought to be surrounded by enemies (from the Israeli POV and misjudgment) is an obstacle to the Hegemon’s thrust into the soft underbelly of the Bear.
Azerbaijean was to be another platform from which to launch Bibi’s bombers. The conflict with Armenia saw Putin move to stop the Azerbaijeanis from warring against Armenians. And now those nations are less friends with the West and Israel and more Eurasian-looking.
How Putin uses military aid and gas and oil dealings has been clever.
What do the US and Israel have to offer to these small nations? War, interminable, un-winnable war. They see it in the neighborhood. They see it on the maps.
Putin and China come to these nations with Peace and Development. And ultimately, protection from Chaos.
But the Grand Plan is still there to destroy Russia. And will be for another hundred years, it appears. This godless Imperium that seeks to own the entire globe and Space, too, is a very tough opponent. Even if Russia was twice as capable as now, it would not solely counterbalance the Hegemon. Even with strategic cooperation with China, the tandem can’t match up with the Hegemon at this point. But ten, twenty and thirty years from now, the transition will have taken place.
The trick now is to forestall nuclear conflict. This will be very difficult as Israel realizes it has lost its leverage. This is why Putin talks to them all the time, and invites them to Moscow so frequently. He knows they are desperate and without hope of their delusion. But “intervention” is the first step to healing.
The schizophrenia of Israeli geopolitical schemes is driving the Iran policy of the US. It fits with the similar malignant grandiosity of the US military that believes it can win wars it starts.
Imagine the moments at night and the hours of “visions, sounds in their ears, body tremors and talking in tongues” of the Pentagon and IDF/Likud psychos that Putin has had to deal with as their psychoanalyst and therapist.
We see the ‘calm’ public manifestations when the psychotropics are working, and we are stunned by the insanity of the likes of Brussels, Langley, Tel Aviv and the Pentagon. But the truly dark moments are what Putin knows and understands when the rantings of these psychopaths indicate the demented lunacy intended for his nation and people to be exterminated, slowly or in a final first strike.
So, every nation in their path to Moscow is a bulwark Putin will protect as best he can.
And China, petrified to face the Hegemon alone, will assist Russia in their own self-interest and self-protection.
> Even if Russia was twice as capable as now, it would not solely counterbalance the Hegemon. Even with strategic cooperation with China, the tandem can’t match up with the Hegemon at this point. But ten, twenty and thirty years from now, the transition will have taken place.
I very respectfully disagree, but wouldn’t mind hearing some of the details of your analysis in this regard.
Myself I believe Russia quite by herself matches in _qualitative_ military technical terms her opponents. More generally in holistic economic terms, again, my sense is that Russia more than matches her opponents in qualitative terms, overall. GDP is a laughable measure of vitality and potential in this post-industrial age. It was a different matter in 1943 when so much of it was steel production, and wheat production, and business machines. Now (in the USA) it’s all poisoned food, corrupt health-care, corrupt MIC, corrupt finance. It’s not a paper tiger, it’s a worm-eaten zombie full of rabies. It’s like comparing Bruce Lee and Andre the Giant on the basis of volume of atmosphere displaced.
China arguably has an even greater lead in aggregate, real industry, highly intelligent community, global diaspora. By itself, I’d wager China has triple USA economic vitality (something like a real-GDP). Obviously this is just an impression. I certainly do not think China is in a position militarily or politically to go it alone, but already in raw (if in many respects immature) strength she already surpasses the USA by great extent. Recall the USA is riding on the strength of legacy institutions, connections, privileges etc going back into the British Empire. There is a huge amount of stored institutional, technical, political, etc power in that. But it’s fruit off the vine, going rotten. China’s fruits still budding, but are on the green vine.
> The trick now is to forestall nuclear conflict. This will be very difficult as Israel realizes it has lost its leverage. This is why Putin talks to them all the time, and invites them to Moscow so frequently. He knows they are desperate and without hope of their delusion. But “intervention” is the first step to healing.
This I agree with, and note that as a proposition it is not incompatible with the negation of the one above it. The zombie collapse is a violent affair, with apocalpyse in the cards. It will take some svelte maneuvering to forestall. That such is on hand should be interpreted as supporting the hypothesis that USA is profoundly weak already. If she still had strength she would be managing to win good position without threatening the firestorm.
I agree also that Israel is suffering some issues of mental/spiritual/identity. A conversation I could elaborate on in the future.
A pleasure to encounter Auslander – Larchmonter discussions.
Re: comparative productive capacity, and as Terebinth describes it, “economic vitality” (a good and useful term) of the U.S.A. Russia, and China.
Let us not forget who commandeered the entire economic discussion since WWII (The Great Patriotic War), creating “measures” which overstate their own economic health, etc. in terms of ‘material possessions’ as measurables, and discounting other relevant, yet much more difficult to objectively measure attributes.
The parasitic ‘gaming’ of the U.S.A. (and empire as a whole), while successfully concentrating the power/wealth to the sociopathic gamers, has left the empire on the brink of societal implosive collapse.
But why?
This social gaming is reifying; that is, once started, a person must lose out, or adopt the same cynical tactics. It only works, however, when the preponderance of the system/society still play by the rules (ostensibly leading to overall maximization of benefits to all).
But life in the empire has passed the milestone of viability. The culture of the U.S.A. is one of compulsive ‘buggering your neighbour for a few extra shekels’ and ‘screwing’ any acceptance of responsibility.
And therein lies the key issue, the balance of rights and responsibilities.
All rights come packed with corresponding responsibilities. If someone gets rights without responsibilities, then someone else gets the responsibilities without the rights!
Slavery is a spectrum of all those with responsibilities outweighing their rights.
Entitlement is a spectrum of all those with excessive rights over their responsibilities.
The ‘trickle down’ approach DOES work with respect to culture (as opposed to its economic functioning), and thus the culture of the States has unfortunately become one of evading all responsibility, except at the barrel of a gun (of some sort or another).
We could speculate about where this invasive culture of gaming came from, but… we don’t really need to write it down for all of us to have a shared understanding of where it has come from. Such an reifying, ‘iterative gain’ culture exists in all higher (human) population density-derived cultures, and continues coming into the ‘west’ from various sources of high population density cultures in Asia, who see how easily the (comparatively) low density cultures of northwestern Eurasia have rolled over to prop their back-ends the highest in the air for takeover, because a very virulent, obsessively secretive gaming culture has taken over ‘western’ civilizations (many of which based on a tradition of universal collective social welfare).
The mechanism of dysfunction
With the establishment of the mechanics and techniques of graft, outstripping all other pursuits in the society, as individuals adopt the reifying gaming culture, in response to the success of a coordinated collective of graft, )one must recognize the fracturing aspect of the program, and acknowledge how the most cohesive collective, working together to game the overall system, gains again in comparison to the fragmented majority, of which the social cohesion breaks down utterly), all aspects of social development lag behind the development of the systems of graft.
<Bringing it back to the subject of the moment
One could see in this context how, despite ‘spending so much more than everybody else, of such things as military ‘capability’, under such a regime, the incredibly effective grafting systems suck off the vast majority of the motive capability/power (the US fiat currency), so that (ones such as your esteemed selves could easily see) only a miniscule amount of the reported attribution of resources gets realized.
While, I still stand by my belief that he was the lesser evil of the two ‘candidates’, D. Trumpf stands as an accurate figurehead for this society.
Summary
While all the ‘on-paper’ indicators suggest a powerful military/logistic/industrial capacity in the empire, if one logically extrapolates the graft-culture to the entire system, one is left with a large, downward reassessment of the capability, and indeed, ultimate viability of the empire, as it stands now.
Is this a good thing
As you likely know, it is the weak opponents who are the most unpredictable and volatile.
If I can assume that we have consensus on the futility of a conventional military engagement by the empire against the Russia/China/Iran alliance, then we are left with the scary scenario of the hair-trigger orange ‘schlep’, more or less in control of the socio-pathic egomaniac Yahoo.
Let us hope that Putin is every bit as good as we hope, if not better.
Thanks for all the chuckles.
btw: “One Tribe” refers to the fact that all humankind is actually one tribe; the entire genetic diversity of humans is less than within one (extended) social unit of our closest species, chimpanzees, and ultimately very close to all know animals; we are all in this together; it is those who seek to “game the system” for their own extenuating benefits, (to the costs of everybody else), who represent the evil.
You could very well be right.
“Moscow: US missile systems in Europe may lead to sudden nuclear attack on Russia”
Russian operational general staff said that US ABM sites in Europe and warships patrolling Russian borders are creating potential for USA to launch overwhelming surprise nuclear attack on Russia. Warning from Russian top official was reported by RT News on Tuesday.
“The presence of American ABM sites in Europe and ABM-capable ships in the seas and oceans close to Russia’s territory creates a powerful clandestine potential for delivering a surprise nuclear missile strike against Russia,” Viktor Poznikhir, deputy head of operations of the Russian general staff, told a disarmament conference in Geneva.
https://dninews.com/article/moscow-us-missile-systems-europe-may-lead-sudden-nuclear-attack-russia
Shabbos-goy indeed. Just like Tsipras and Varoufakis in Greece, as soon as the ruthless Zionazis showed him who’s in charge (as if that were needed), Trump’s instant response became “Take me, I’m yours!” with his precious butt up for grabs. A Shabbos-goy and a Zio-gay degenerate for all the world to see.
About time the UN moved away from what’s really the tormentor country of all humanity. And it’s high past time that same country does leave the UNESCO, if the latter wants to count for anything progressive at all.
Trump’s moves just indicate that Kim’s keeping of his nuclear toys is vindicated and non negotiable. The americans cannot be trusted in international agreements. it now depends on the whims and caprices of each new government to respect international agreements or not.
in Kim’s words…
” Yes we can eat grass but there’s NO way you’re gonna get me stop
developing my nukes”.
We are all Iranians now.
Not just Iran but the whole planet is being threatened by these Zionists from hell.
Sooner they are returned to it the better.
We have been Palestinians for a very long time. I suppose we are now too, Iranians.
In 2001, Daniel Bernard came to public attention when, as French Ambassador to the United Kingdom, he was quoted as saying: “All the current troubles in the world are because of that shitty little country Israel.” The diplomat added, “Why should the world be in danger of World War III because of those people?”
The remark was reported to have taken place during a conversation with Conrad Black of the Daily Telegraph at a private dinner party Black was hosting. Of course, this landed the gentleman in hot water, for what was in effect a remark which took place as part of a private conversation.
So even private conversations can be recorded by the zionist thought police in the media. Of course the ‘Labour Friends of Israel’ (an active zionist pressure group in the UK Labour Party) led the charge with the familiar ‘anti-semitism’ card. So it would be judicious to keep criticisms of Israel to oneself in what has become a globalized form of creeping zionist totalitarianism.
It is understood you cannot even get selected for the UK Tory party unless you give your allegiance to Israel – first.
John Kerry speaks out against Trump..
“President Trump’s decision today is dangerous. He’s creating an international crisis,” Kerry said in a statement, urging the other signatory nations to “prove to the world what responsible behavior is….”
His full statement is worth reading.
https://sputniknews.com/us/201710141058224745-usa-iran-kerry-trump-crisis/
Saker, the biggest flaw I see in your analysis is that you assume Trump will attack Iran because he will be ashamed not to. I really don’t think that Trump HAS shame, at all, so I very much doubt that this will be the motivation for him. He will back away if he can plausibly (that is, to informed idiots) claim that he achieved something. It’s all about perception. (like with the Syrian airbase attack: he claims that stopped Assad from doing any more chemical attacks. Even though everyone who follows this stuff knows that’s BS because Assad didn’t do that attack in the first place; but most people don’t follow it that closely)
That’s a hell lot of comments to read on an otherwise insightful blog before finding the first actual sensible one. I may be wrong but I find that Saker’s forte is geopolitic but that he has a blind spot on all things politics – which he shares/spreads to his readers.
Here the tell for the blind spot is the miss of the obvious – Trump didn’t pull out of the treaty. That’s the unmistakable mark of all this being a negotiation tactic, as it nearly always is /w him, as opposed to applying a neo con policy heading to war.
Let me make a few take of my own:
– in Trump’s view, there’s no such a thing as “caving to [Israël or anyone]”. There’s a deal he thinks is good for him – keeping in mind he’s likely to have an honest, hearth felt interest in what he thinks is good for “the country” (likely bc why else leaving his billionnaire lifestyle at 71 for crazy pace of presidential life)
– he’s genuinely pro Israël, as a lot of american are. ie their core, untold view is that yes, jews are more deserving than arabs / muslims in the area, bc of all stereotypes that sure are racist in good part but that they can sustain with “their” set of facts. Some of them real. Try to speak with some of those “genuine neo con”. They do believe their stuff, passionately, they do believe there is a civilizational threat in western world from muslim world. I am their exact opposite but if I am honest, I am grounded in a hunch/belief/general view on man. I can’t disprove them in a debate easily and BTW, they suffer the same Media blackout I did as a 911 truther.
– fact doesn’t matter that much, past neither in persuasion / politics. Sure it’s jaw dropping each time a US politics pretends Iran support Al Qaeda instead of Iran fight Al Qaeda while Saoudis support it, and yes it has awful consequences for people but here it’s not the beef of what’s going on. What Trump wants – and is likely to get – is something, anything that will look like a win to his basis and pro Israël US voters, an essential democratics for him bc that’s some of the few votes he can take ouf of actual democrat reserve. THIS is probably the real reason of his pro Israel stance. Yes you’re liberal east cost ppl who hate my politics to guts but look how good a friend I am to beloved Israël. Now I am your friend and you’ll find plenty of reason to say “that Trump isn’t that bad”.
In the meantime, the whole “Israël is supporting Trump but then will politically dump him” is another thing that doesn’t stand to reality. The whole medias bunch traditionally supportive of neo cons politics are still after Trump’s throat, against Bibi’s angle. So there is clearly no Israëli gove driving US politics here on this point specfically (as compared to say Irak or Libya wars).
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@Redford. On the contrary, there is “clearly an Israel govt” (the present one) driving this POTUS to sing the Zionazi hymn “Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran”. Israeli PM Natan Yahoo was the only “Western leader” to publicly support candidate Trump, and the Yahoo’s billionaire friend Adelson financed Trump’s campaign (see my reply to Redford, above). Trump is a businessman, and this is clearly a case of “Payment for services rendered”.
There is such a thing as pro israeli lobbying on, at least, toughing up US stance on Iran but from there to “this lobby drives everything and politician’s own stances don’t play any role”, there are a lot of assumptions. Fact it pro israel vote is strategically important for a GOP candidate. Another fact is that Trump is from NYC and has, as many there, direct ties to jewish community. So his position is likely to be relatively genuine, although I still bet that there is no such thing as “free beer” with Trump. His UNESCO stunt is likely to be a trade of some sort.
Now saying that isn’t approving the stance in any way. I very much oppose it. But I’d rather do it with a decent understanding on what’s going on – if only to oppose it more efficiently.
Bombing the Bushehr plant will irradiate the gulf and screw up shipping for 20% of the world’s oil supply. Tanker insurance companies won’t allow them to pass. This is just for starters.
What if in retaliation Dimona gets leveled to the ground? Bombing Bushehr not feasible.
President Putin compares himself to an “Israeli” soldier in order to make a point during week’s Sochi Energy Forum, further suggesting that what I’ve written about on several occasions is true, and that Russia and “Israel” are indeed allies.
While the video itself isn’t in English, the below link includes an accurate translation of the President’s remarks:
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“Russian President Vladimir Putin couldn’t resist lightening the mood with a joke after being bombarded with a tirade of questions from Bloomberg journalist and host John Fraher at the Russian Energy Week plenary session in Moscow on Wednesday. «Do you want to hear a joke about the Israeli Army? A young soldier is asked ‘If you see 20 terrorists what would you do?’ I’d take an UZI and shoot them. ‘Good, but what if tanks were coming at you?’ I’d take a rocket launcher and defend myself. ‘Well, but what if you see planes, tanks and terrorists all together?’ General, am I the only one in this army? So, I’d like to ask you, am I alone on this panel?» Putin said.”
https://m.newstube.ru/media/russia-am-i-alone-on-this-panel-putin-deploys-israeli-army-analogy-at-energy-week-forum
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From 7 September, 2017
“Does Anyone Still Seriously Think That Russia And Israel Aren’t Allies?”:
“Israel’s latest bombing raid on Syria is confirmation that the Putin-Netanyahu Summit in Sochi was a lot more successful than some Alt-Media voices have led people to believe.”
https://theduran.com/does-anyone-still-seriously-think-that-russia-and-israel-arent-allies/
Israel’s attacks on Syria are pathetic attempts to show that Israel doesn’t have to obey the rules. The one where they attacked a supposed ‘chemical plant near’ Maysaf for instance. They blew up 5 empty buildings.
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/https/diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/1104402.html
It was just a show, just as Trump’s attack against the Syrian air base was just a show. So by your logic Russia and America are allies.
In reality, Israel air strikes do approximately zero damage, certainly far less than their ISIS proxy forces (which Russia is destroying). It is not worth giving them the satisfaction of paying the slightest attention to their attention whore antics..
RT – Cross Talk: Trump targets Iran
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1apy_Ojk0xY
In respect to the obvious intent to ruin Iran it may occur that some may remember how it was that Persia managed serious problems in Greece. Xerxes had sense enough to back off.
The transition of the global machine from “regulation” via sea peoples (essentially souped-up and dressed up piracy) to an integrated Heartland with the sea people becoming subservient – a transition ending a period of plunder beginning about 1500 – is predictably going to include a vast naval defeat…something like Salamis,
It is not a credible proposition that the Persians (or the Iranians) have forgotten… Nor is it credible that Ivan or Chin has forgotten how pirates end, or empires.
One wonders at the absurd clowns all dressed like actors… They must be illiterate beyond fairy-tales and comics…
RT to-day 10/14 reported again on the Westley Clark story about the plans to “do” Iran
https://www.sott.net/article/246771-General-Wesley-Clark-reveals-2001-US-plan-to-conduct-regime-change-in-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon-Libya-Somalia-Sudan-and-Iran
https://whowhatwhy.org/2012/08/10/tvwho-gen-wesley-clark-shocker-on-911-policy-coup/
T Man probably never heard of Salamis, or Persia, or MacKinder’s Heartland, and probably never reads a book……one hopes he likes surprises…
Delusions end with surprise. And the wise man? He is never surprised.
Pax,
Yep…eschatology has it Damascus a smoking ruin…that’s why Minerva and all the other sites have been desecrated…eschatology as politics…and that nutjob Modi is not going to miss his chance for his beloved Agni to have is day as the sun either.
What a mess
Why is Russia selling S-400s to Saudi Arabia, when Iran retaliation against SA is one of the main things keeping SA’s aggressive intent towards in Iran in check?
The waiting list is long in duration. SA will be 3-4 years waiting.
Since Trump main advisor seems to be Nimrata Randhawa (aka Nikki Haley), we can expect anything: https://sputniknews.com/us/201710141058228297-trump-iran-nuclear-deal-haley/
The diplomatic credibility, if any left, of the USA is now gone completely. Out in the open, they are ‘not-agreement-capable’.
Nevertheless, I think it will stay with sabre rattling.Trump only wants to look strong to the homefront. Attacking Iran would be a disaster with many losses, hard to account for at the homefront. And what about up to 100000 rockets from Hezbollah maybe raining down on Israeli cities? The stakes are too high.
Maybe this also sheds a new light on the recent cosying up of Saudi Arabia with Russia.
Time everyone sanctioned the usa methinks in whatever way possible…LNG…flights….if possible..send all diplomats home refuse visas to anyone from usa..isolate and control.
I tend to agree that it it just sabre rattling.
If we do attack Iran in full force, using our electronically guided
weapons, the first thing to go would be all those GPS satellites,
thus making these weapons just about useless.
And as far as the ground war, we all know by now who has the
most disciplined and motivated and battle hardened forces.
That outcome would be disastrous for our (USA) side.
Am I missing something here?
For years before the Iran nuclear deal negotiations started, Iran has been saying, they do not want a nuclear bomb for religious reasons; and Israel says, Iran was building a bomb. U.S. intelligence and other agencies also verify, no bomb being built.
Then 9 years ago, the powers-that-be negotiated with Iran about a non-existence problem. And came out with an agreement saying the no-problem has been solved, with some procedures in place to make sure that the no-problem is a verifiable no-problem. Everyone’s happy, pretending they have solved an intractable no-problem.
Then Trump came along and say, let’s scrap this non-agreement over a no-problem. Lets sanction Iran for ballistics missiles, terrorism, etc. Which Obama was doing anyway, and which Trumph may get on board.
So, at least now everything is out in the open. No more pretence. Israel will do what Israel do, notch about Iran and try to get the US to fight for them. The craven US will not fight. They will do what they always do nowadays. They will sanction Iran to death, or try to; antagonize Iran like they do Russia and China; doing everything else but fight.
Interesting theatre.
The zionists and neocons are going to push for whatever advances Israel’s ambitions and/or sells weapons. They don’t really care if that creates a war, so long as the war doesn’t touch them directly. What Americans need to do is ensure that their warmongering does touch the zionists and neocons directly.
When it comes to mid-terms, vote out the neo-cons.
If they start a war, don’t go. If they push for conscription, take to the streets. If it happens anyway, conscientiously object. Zionists and Necons won’t do the dying themselves. Their children won’t do the dying. They can’t have a war if they can’t get enough expendable boots on the ground to fight it.
Inform your friends and family so everyone you know understands why they shouldn’t support it–politically or physically.
What you say is worthwhile, but I wouldn’t expect too much from this type of action.
They will just go ahead and do it anyway regardless of public opinion.
In 2003, there were global mass demonstrations, with over 30 million taking part, including many people who would not normally take part.
But it made absolutely no difference. Iraq went ahead anyway.
Some people are deluded enough to believe we live in a democracy.
President Donald Trump’s speech reminds me Gogol’s writing “Diary of a maniac”
Another title in Germany “Aufzeichnungen eines Wahnsinnigen”
http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/germany-berlin-berlin-german-theatre-berlin-box-and-bar-news-photo/544637901#germany-berlin-berlin-german-theatre-berlin-box-and-bar-presenting-picture-id544637901
Diary of a Madman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diary_of_a_Madman_(short_story)
The “Speech” of POTUS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7eeAACvVuc
Add to “Diary a Madman”
Trump’s old tweets to Obama: Don’t attack Syria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlcL6V4SkS8
MSM and Deep State praise Trump’s strike on Syria in April 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWRTedAyMkY
Add to POTUS
He is sweet, isn’t he?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/db/80/ba/db80ba502033b04d5cbf7d8df4e0791c.jpg
EU, Russia, China rally behind Iran deal ahead of Trump speech
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/10/13/eu-russia-china-rally-behind-iran-deal-ahead-of-trump-speech/
Perhaps because of US government hostility to Iran, there are many Iranians in Canada, particularly in Toronto, who might otherwise live or study in the US.
There are large 24-hour Persian supermarkets in “Tehranto”, around Yonge Street and Finch Avenue. The Iranians I meet are almost always impressive, bright, educated and cultured. I can only imagine how interesting and vibrant Iran must be, and I pray that the US does not harm that place or its people.
The Iranian history since 1979 shows that Iran is one of the most hardcore Muslim nations. I would argue that all the trouble with Islamic fundamentalism actually began with so called Islamic revolution. To paint Iran any other way would be misleading. Iranian policies are neither peaceful nor positive in today’s world.
Please use another name as Scott already exists here and is a main member of the Saker team. Mod
“Al Qaeda was created in the mid 80’s by US and Israel.”
says this historian in a a concise 18 minute history of the whole war on terror project.
I hope you find it as informative as I did, Scott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNXa1QQOKNk
The thing about Trump demonising Iran and the claim of a few days previously that Hezbolllah have a base in the US to attack the country, is that these episodes take the notion that Israel controls America, from a once disputed theory into the harsh glare of obviousness for all the world to see.
Many thanks for the link.
I have wanted to find out more about this conference.
I recently copyedited a book that referenced it.
The institute is the Jonathan Institute, names for Yonatan Netanyahu.
The author used the definition of terrorism and counterterrorism as defined at the conference.
I could find no documents online that documented these quotes.
Which means I suppose that no one has seen fit to make the conference papers, speeches, etc. available to the general public. Which does seem a bit odd.
Katherine
Here is the Wikipedia entry on Jonathan Netanyahu:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonatan_Netanyahu
What to me is interesting is that the Netanyahus were/are Americans.
Born in the USA.
LIke so many others high up in the Israeli govt., they used the USA as a place to be educated, etc., but have no loyalty to this country. It was a way station between Eastern Europe and the Jewish State. To a great extent, Israel was Made in America.
The notes to the Wikipedia article on Yonatan Netanyahu are revealing. Look at the title of that George Will article.
Follow Me image gallery Archived 2013-02-03 at the Wayback Machine.
“The Seven Lives of Colonel Patterson: how an Irish lion hunter led the Jewish Legion to victory” by Denis Brian (pub. 2008), pg. xiii
“Casualties: Jonathan Netanyahu (1946-1976)”, The Baltimore Sun, Feb. 15, 1981
“Follow Me: The Yoni Netanyahu Story”, Film Society Lincoln Center
Hastings (1979), p. 89.
“Entebbe Hero Paid a Commitment With Death”, UPI: The Palm Beach Post, (W. Palm Beach, Florida), March 13, 1977
Yonaton “Yoni” Netanyahu biography, Jewish Virtual Library
Will, George. “Entebbe’s ‘Jonathan’ story: Israel, U.S. share sacred day”, The Orlando Sentinel (Orlando, Florida), July 2, 1981
Freedland, Jonathan (25 June 2016). “‘We thought this would be the end of us’: the raid on Entebbe, 40 years on”. The Guardian. Retrieved 3 July 2016.
“Yoni’s Last Days – The Raid at Entebbe – Page 3”, Yoni.org
Netanyahu, Yonatan. The Letters of Jonathan Netanyahu, Gefen Publ. (1980)
“Words of a Fallen Soldier” New York Times, January 25, 1981.
“theatreor.com”. theatreor.com. Retrieved September 1, 2011.
Untitled Theater Co #61’s Fest Of Jewish Theater & Ideas Runs 5/20-6/14 In NYC, Broadway World, May 20, 2009 [1]
“Under pressure, New Rep cancels play”. Boston Globe. May 9, 2007. Retrieved September 1, 2011.
Thomas, Gordon. Gideon’s Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad, Macmillan Publishers (2009) p. 145[ISBN missing]
“Jonathan Institute”
Netanyahu, Benjamin. editor. “International Terrorism: Challenge and Response”, Jonathan Institute (1981)
Katherine
Chris Bollyn video: everyone should watch.
I have watched a video of his in the past.
But this one is better.
More succinct.
The link once again to the Bollyn video (getting farther down the thread here):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNXa1QQOKNk
Regarding the incident at Entebbe, the event that per Bollyn served as the rationale for the declaration of a war on terrorism, I just refreshed my memory on what occurred:
In June 1976, four members of a faction of the Popular Front for the LIberation of Palestine hijacked an Air France flight from Tel Aviv to Paris, but the plane was diverted to Entebbe, Uganda, instead. The passengers were hostages. The hijackers’ demand was to free 53 Palestinian militants who were prisoners in Israel.
A heavy-hitting rescue operation was launched from Israel. It had repercussions in Uganda and Kenya. On hindsight the Entebbe operation, too, seems like a watershed event.
You can bone up on it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Entebbe#Hijacking.
Katherine
Russia and China may not allow a U.S. attack against Iran. Trump’s economic policies are a time bomb waiting to explode. If there is an economic crisis, these elective wars will be in jeopardy.
Russia and China have a consistent record of facilitating and enabling US aggression over more than two decades.
They will sit on their hands and do nothing this time as well.
In the 1960’s Jean Dixon, who predicted the JFK assassination, saw visions of WW3. She wrote a book about it, “The Road to Glory”. She said WW3 would start in Syria as a war with Iran. After the west and the east were both at the end of their strength, the Chinese would send their armies of millions through Russia into the middle east. A biological agent would be released, and people would die by the millions. The USA has biological weapons institutes in Gruzia and Ukraine.
It’s “The Call to Glory”
They have forgotten that the Medes and the Persians, under Cyrus the Great and Darius the Mede, defeated Babylon in 537 BC. History does not repeat itself but it often rhymes. Perhaps this time Xi Jinping is Cyrus and Vladimir Putin is Darius…the kings of the East.
I believe that that the die has been cast and the players are all fulfilling their predestined roles.
In that category, need to mention the now 2 millennia long grudge the marauding invaders & destroyers, still around, hold against Persia & the Parthians.
in 53 BC, Crassus Roman general “led” 7 full legions across the desert (not too bright) to cross the euphrates and faceoff against Cyrena.
End result of that glorious journey was one of Rome’s 4 worst multi-legion wipeouts.
This wasn’t particularly the result of military incompetence on the part of Crassus.
The defending Parthian force was only a quarter of the size of the Roman force, but it was all mounted.
10,000 horse archers and 1,000 heavily armoured cataphracts, with a very large camel train of replacement arrows.
The Parthian commander (later executed by the Parthian king out of jealousy) used innovative organisation and tactics to achieve a victory. He was expected to lose by his king, who sent him on something of a sacrificial mission to buy time.
The battle was hard fought, and could have gone the other way.
The Parthian commander’s success was the result of avoiding a close quarter infantry battle, exploiting the potential of his small force of heavy cavalry, and relying on mobile archers.
Uneasy—or paranoid—lies the head that wears the crown . . .
Katherine
I think the orig. is Shakespeare, but not sure.
@ Cyrena
“His legions were defeated at Carrhae (modern Harran in Turkey) in 53 BC by a numerically inferior Parthian force”.
Cyrena is an alternate spelling of Cyrene/Kyrene: a maiden-huntress and princess loved by Apollo. He took her to Africa and founded the city of Cyrene in her name. The region, Cyrenaica (Libya), is also named for her. Little to do with Crassus.
Persia and the Helleno-Roman world have been in a conflict which extended over a thousand years and ended in a crushing defeat of Persia in 628 AD at the hand of the Roman Emperor Heraclius. The law of unintended consequences applied. The weakening of Persia opened the door to the invading Muslim hordes to Central Asia and India, wherefrom they gathered new forces to invade Byzantium and create the present situation.
Already the ancient Greek authors were speaking of the ‘eternal war between Europe and Asia’.
As far as I can see, Iran has never been a threat to Israel, as it has no interests in Israel. However, Iran is a threat to Wall Street and to international private bankers and corporations. The backbone of the emerging Eurasian Economic Union will be Russia, China and Iran, joined by others. As the English geographer Halford Mackinder stated in the 19th century, Eurasia is the key to economic and political power. He pointed out to the British Government that the greatest danger it faces lies in a German-Russian economic alliance. Two world wars were fought to prevent this. After Mackinder ,we had Brzezinski, who said basically the same thing. And what do we have today ? A pretty desperate attempt to prevent the emergence of the Eurasian Economic Union. Trump is increasing US military strength in Afghanistan, because of its geo-strategic position, not to mention its wealth in minerals. The US Navy is off the Iranian coast, as well off the North Korean coast, while Russia and China are encircled by NATO bases. We now have a situation which is both dangerous and bizarre. The intention of NATO was to destabilize, invade and break up both Russia and China, with Russia being given priority. It did not work out that way. Both are on the rise. Worse, the US, like all empires before, is paying the price of empire building, with a huge foreign and domestic debt. Worse, there is also a huge international debt of numerous countries, a debt bubble which is going to explode with unforseen consequences. Wall Street, with international bankers and corporations, is now in a predicament. They know what is going to happen as far as international finances go, yet they do not have a clear picture of what to do, as their past plans did not materialize. It’s this situation, based on ignorance, that is dangerous, as anything is now possible.
I have a different understanding of Trump. He is not interested in regime change and conventional war like Bush. He is not interested in regime change and proxy war like Obama. Trump is a child and he just wants to bomb. He will bomb Iran and N. Korea with no thought of conquering or occupying their lands.
The only danger of conquest I see here would be a move by the imperialist nations to seize the oil-rich southwest tip of Iran. That is what Saddam coveted and that could start a larger war.
Uk intelligence getting on the act as best they can to support the “joke”of usa-uk special relationship ….blaming Iran for hacking into Parliament a while ago.
“For 10 years I have considered that my prediction of a US attack on Iran was the biggest analytical failure in my career. I now hope and pray that it will remain so and that I will not be proven right. But it sure looks like my prediction will be vindicated.”
I am in exactly the same boat. I’ve been predicting war with Iran since at least 2006 if not before. I was a regular poster at goingtotehran.com, the Web site of Flynt and Hillary Mann Leverett – where I was roundly accused by other posters that war with Iran was “impossible” because Iran was too big to attack. I was a poster at Matt Yglesias’ blog where the same thing happened – Iran war was “impossible.”
In actuality, the ONLY things preventing war with Iran before now are: 1) the 2007 NIE which declared Iran had no nuclear weapons program; and 2) the fact that Israel cannot afford to attack Iran until Syria and Hizballah in Lebanon are neutralized as effective actors in an Iran war.
This is why the Syrian crisis was created – to enable the US and NATO to do a “Libya” on Syria. But Russia stopped that plan.
So now Israel is talking up the next war with Hizballah and Trump is preparing for war with Iran.
It’s difficult to predict where things will go from here. Russia’s presence in Syria will complicate things for a while yet. Also, according to Colonel Pat Lang, Israel is unlikely to be able to defeat Hizballah in the next war. I tend to agree with him, but if Israel wants a war with Iran, they need to at least try to take out Hizballah first.
Of course, Israel might make the decision to accept trouble from Hizballah in an Iran war and go ahead and push Trump to start it anyway, and then attack Hizballah as well as Iran or just before the US attacks Iran. It’s even possible that Israel may push Trump into attacking Hizballah in Lebanon directly and/or in collusion with Israel as a precursor to the Iran war.
Make no mistake. The US and Israel REALLY want a war with Iran. From their point of view, it’s a no-lose situation. The US military-industrial complex makes a ton of money over a decade-long war with Iran, Israel sees much of Iran destroyed, the neocons are happy – everyone wins except for everyone who dies.
I knew that Obama made the Iran Deal solely to have one foreign policy win on his resume. He also knew that the next President – who he assumed would be Clinton – would tear up the deal. So here we are.
My prediction Will be vindicated even if it takes another decade.
Helps to see where this is going by looking at what was said to/about him just days before the clear Friday 13th ritual ceremonial big decision.
And yes, it was absolutely planned & timelined for months at least for this ritual date! witness, as easy to see, how he “put it off” twice before, until by pure coincidence this date now.
They coulda made it less obvious, I mean picking the exact day/date/month of the event in AD 1307.
here’s Bannon, Oct 11 just 2 days before, a clear warning that he’d better start to toe the company line of his masters.
https://heisenbergreport.com/2017/10/11/steve-bannon-says-trump-has-only-a-30-of-making-it-through-his-first-term/
Right. And again, that was partially Steve Bannon’s doing. Bannon is effectively moving to replace Trump as the leader of the populist cause that helped win the election. Here’s what we said on Tuesday:
According to a source, Bannon has told people he thinks Trump has only a 30 percent chance of making it the full term.
If that’s true, it is “big league” news, because it suggests that Bannon, now on the outside, knows there’s blood in the water.
http://cache.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/161370-Happy-Friday-The-13th-Love-Jason.jpg
Bannon and his money bags Robert Mercer and daughter Rebekah Mercer, were with Ted Cruz before Trump destroyed him in the Primaries. The Mercers bankrolled Bannon and Breitbart news.
They came over to Trump for the General Election.
Now they are setting up for post-Trump, either impeachment, 25th Amendment ouster by his Cabinet, or replacement by coercion by Pence. Bannon likes Cruz.
However this is a misreading of the MAGA movement who despise Cruz and could easily dump Bannon if he crosses Trump in any way.
The MAGA voters are pure Trump, regardless of anything. He has to deliver the Wall, and some heads of the Swamp. And get rid of Obamacare. If he does those, MAGA holds.
If he fails and MAGA dissolves, the US is over. Forget any reform. Forget Peace.
Bannon and Cruz are anti-every foreign nation, though Cruz would be comfortable with a global economy if the US runs it completely.
Richard N. Haass — The US Cannot Go It Alone On Iran
The voice of the Establishment speaks. Haass is president of CFR.
Richard N. Haass, President of the Council on Foreign Relations, previously served as Director of Policy Planning for the US State Department (2001-2003), and was President George W. Bush’s special envoy to Northern Ireland and Coordinator for the Future of Afghanistan.
http://www.atimes.com/us-cannot-go-alone-iran/
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Politico
Nikki Haley was Trump’s Iran whisperer
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/13/nikki-haley-trump-iran-whisperer-243772
There is another dangerous aspect on this.
The JCPOA (Joint Comprehensive Plan Of Action, the ‘nuclar deal’) is not some bilateral agreement. It’s an agreement between Iran and the permanent members of the UN Security Council and the EU: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal_framework
I’m not an expert on international right, but I have the impression that such agreements are between nations as a whole, and not their temporary governments.
So, if the USA now withdraws because a new government ‘doesn’t like it’, despite the UN reporting organization IAEA declaring that Iran fully complies to the agreement, means that even UNSC resolutions have become null and void for the USA. Not that they care, I guess.
Based on thin air, smoke and mirrors, the USA has just outlawed itself. They have become pirates, just grabbing what they want. Especially when Tel Aviv calles.
Now, that’s a dangerous development imho. Then the UNSC will not function anymore as it should.
Rob:
The US government never could be trusted. US politicians can sign as many international deals as they want. According to US law those deals will be binding only if they’re approved – ratified – by congress. As long as this isn’t the case, contracts with the US government aren’t worth the paper they’re written on. It’s a sleazy trick, but it still works.
Dear Saker: Congratulations on this Ten Year anniversary!– Thank You for remaining steadfast, and for all of you who take the time to contribute your insights to this remarkable site, thank you, also! Saker, consider this: is there a possibility that you may find yourself in the position of the prophet Jonah (“forty days and the great city Nineveh shall be overthrown”), and because the prophet was true to his mission, the people repented–and the city marked for destruction was saved? Like you over these ten long years (longer than 40 days, for sure) Jonah did what was necessary–he delivered the message. The results of that were up to a higher power! Thanks to the Righteous Lord that this alarming prophecy was conditional. People saw, and were transformed by, the True Light! As I read the words of so many of the contributors to this site, I realize how little I know, and I am able –thanks to all of you –to gain an education in foreign affairs, economics, etc. A few questions are now in order: Regarding nuclear weapons, and their use (in the Middle East, or anywhere, actually)–because of that Higher Power referred to earlier, have there been times that the orders to launch have been given, and the “buttons pressed”, and the vaunted systems that so much money have been spent on failed to launch? ? ? (or wrecked the ship or missile silo in the process?) This info is above my security clearance, for sure. How many times has the Creator directly intervened in human affairs and said “This far, and no farther” ? Now for some history, as I understand it: Back in a very troubled time, 1945, a new weapon was tested out in the New Mexico desert , worked flawlessly the first time…. or so we are told. Remarkable! It was blasphemously code-named “Trinity”. I do not believe the knowledge for this destroyer came from the Creator. How many other weapons go thru teething processes that are legendary in their longevity. At that moment the countdown began–the dark Alchemists had “stolen the fire”, and the Creator stood back, and gave them the chance to see what they would do with it. The choices were: power–destruction– chill out and Pause for a while, choose creation over destruction, life over death, become harmless as doves and wise as serpents, don’t allow technology to become our “god”, live a life transformed by the beauty of holiness, and all of the other paths that could have been taken. Granted, it was difficult for these dark Alchemists to put the knowledge “back into the box” and turn their back on it, because now they had the power to call down fire from heaven. Not only that, They had the power to steal the future that could have been from countless human beings. Control the course of history in a big way. Remember how In the great contest on Mount Carmel between Elijah and the false prophets of the demonic entity Ba’al, “fire from heaven” was the sign of “god’s” approval. It took them a while, about 25 centuries, but now the false prophets can call down fire from “heaven” as well. “You shall have no other gods before Me”–indeed, how they worship this “atomic bomb”! With all of this in mind, Why exactly is it that nuclear weapons have not been used in war since that time? Look at the list of countries that apparently have these damn things. People really want to use them! They have a demonic determination to use them, as in 1945. (check out the remarkable book Atomic bomb Secrets by David Dionisi). Perhaps the Higher Power, and I mean that in the sense of a Being who commanded not only the earth but the entire Universe into existence, has said in a resounding way “No, I am not going to let you destroy my Creation”. Is this possible? I do not know of any other explanation for this. I believe that nuclear weapons are not going to be permitted to be used.
Hello Saker;
You have several times suggested that Russian military is primarily defensive, and optimised for ops within 500 kilometers of their border. I just read an interesting article that claims Russia has substantial stand off forces, that allow effective militay acrion at much greater distances;
http://www.unz.com/article/russia-the-800-pound-gorilla/
What is your take on this?
Thanks
Rudy Fritsch
Coming to think of it, there is a lot of substance to the slogan Real Americans defend Israel , whether that is being consciously hinted at or not. Israel is a smaller rendition of the US Settler Reich, applying the same kind of endless violence, racism, total lawlessness. self-worship, and self-pity. A real American is, first and foremost, a die-hard Zionazi.
It’s the way Britain rules the US…. Through Israel.
I think that the apparent false flag operation in Las Vegas is the clearest sign yet that a major war is coming – ie that the US ‘elites’ (pack of mis-leaders) have decided to start a major war. Will it be in North Korea? Iran? Syria? Two or all three? Will Russia and/or China be pulled in? Are Venezuela and Cuba being considered? Hegemonic ‘elites’ are probably still trying to figure out exactly how they want to do the war and how far they want it to go. They have set up enough options that they can pretty much pick their spot.
I think there is a major mistake that analysts continually make. They keep saying that the US ‘lost’ in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. I think this is nonsense and it’s hard to understand why intelligent people keep saying it in 2017. I think it’s painfully obvious by now that chaos is the goal. Sure the Hegemon likes to install vassal regimes, craven and compliant, in most places – and it normally succeeds in doing exactly this. Some two thirds of the countries in the world are pretty much on their knees to the Hegemon now, right? Some of them might cast the occasional token vote in the UN vs Israel right, as a tiny peep of independence, and that’s about it, right?
But if for some reason the Hegemon cannot install a vassal government, they are happy to leave a formerly independent country in shambles. In fact, I suspect the Hegemon prefers such an outcome, if it has to resort to war. Basically, it’s the same as what medieval armies did to towns that resisted them – such towns received a fate so horrible that it would serve as an effective warning to other towns.
Yes, it’s what Willi Wimmer, a German politician with personal contact to Afghanistan president says: The US could have liberate the country from the Taliban and reach peace in Afghanistan. But they didn’t want it because they would loose the reason to stay in the country. https://www.cashkurs.com/demokratieplattform/beitrag/interview-mit-willy-wimmer/
paul:
Excellent comment. Probably Libya had been a domino part in the big game in order to destabilize Syria. Didn’t get IS its army supplies in Mosul from the US? The ongoing “democratization” of Afghanistan is an excellent pretext for
– the CIA to grow poppy to fund the war chests of “freedom fighters” and to flood the Russian Federation with this drug
– encircling and destabilizing Iran
– disrupt the OBOR initiative
– gathering Nato troops for an attack on the Russian Federation
– get easy access to the natural resources of that country.
Another confusing aspect is that analysts often focus on one region. Right now the escalation of the tensions with North Korea and Iran are on a par. All this could be a distraction from the stunt the US tries to pull off in Venezuela. (Think of a magician diverting the attention of the audience in order pull off the magic trick.)
just before recent German election, one report of Konrad-Adenauer Stiftung, was upcoming decline of US and UK, the vacant place should be replaced by EU (aka, Germany). These research and reports will definitely force to choose policies of EU and those countries, what we have also saw from Gabriel’s speech plus Mogherini’s.
My personal believe is, two major changes are coming in recent year, 1. total fall of UK-US world domination but before that, fall of Saudi royal family, i.e., 0. fall of Mecca and Madina (perhaps through the Shia – Sunni way).
Saker,
With respect, I do not see discussion regarding critical questions to which I don’t suppose “peons” like us would have the answers, but analysts with intelligence (as in information).
First, I believe Iran is a critical source of oil for China. Will China allow Washington to bomb Iran into the stone age (no doubt with nuclear weapons) and sit back and do nothing? Can there be covert if not overt support.
Second, same question regarding Russia. I realize Putin’s administration does not want war with America, but weapons, more advanced air defense systems (S-400) etc. could be provided to deny Washington-Tel Aviv an easy “victory.”
The lack of concern for human life–Iranian, American–by Trump and his master Bibi is repugnant.
Exactly what I thought. And there is also the New Silk Road Projekt with Iran involved. (This would be by the way an other reason for the USA to attack Iran but this would also means an attack of China’s interests).
One thought you missed the elephant in the room in your analysis. As with 9/11, Iran will be blamed for a major false flag attack and the “sheeple” will rally around Trump and the flag.
Then Israel and America will be blameless and the evil empire will stagger along until it does collapse by the turmoil our “friends” have created.
I still think that a hot war against Iran will not (backing off from never) happen. WAY to much at stake in terms of oil price (just one supertanker sunk and no more insurance). $300/bbl. Economic apocalypse.
Surely (heh, maybe the powerful, extractive, speculative monetization-of-everything crowd want this) no rational policy/decision-maker would inflict this on his own people/family/country.
Surely.?
Is Israel really that strong in US politics to make US pols, no matter how craven in otherwise “ancillary” matters, to DESTROY their own constituents economic well-being?
Maybe, but it’ll be the last thing Israel influencers do.
So all this is coming to a head. Israel gets its wet dream and destroys itself, or Israel doesn’t get what it wants and it exposes and loses all influence among normal constituencies/people (ergo politicians) who want, say, healthcare and education for their kids.
This is concluding.
Here is a thought. Instead of Russia-Gate, there was Israel-Gate. Israel interfering in the Presidential Election for Trump…….
I’ve took a look at the lyrics of the attached song, and did laugh. Sorry!!!
The mention Cyrus, Aryan, and some of their poet plus 2 scientist and ohh jews too from history, but forgot to link why they’ve got the sanction, why their passenger plane was shotted down and nothing happened and why a possible nuclear war is up on their head.
I never visited Iran, but presume – their still gives some young who really can point out the border line Iran have crossed, what put West, especially US-Israel in anger.
Very true Kim, there were not only just Moslems. They were Jews, Christians, Parsi and so forth.
What do you think of Israel-Gate? Do you think that it was Israel interfering in USA Presidential Election, instead of Russia?
thanks for reply.
I think its time, who actually interfere. The US time is up. First WH is totally finished with Trump, today I’ve seen the news Trump announcing they will appoint district judge and other judge, who will truly follow the law and constitution (till these years it didn’t). Which means Trump (as time is not in favor of US), will destroy the second pillar of US. Last one is Congress, but you know and we all know, Senator can be bought, and representative is nothing.
Very thoughtful answer. So, you agree that it was Israel who interfered as they did with Obama’s election, though Putin gets the blame. This time very clever move on Netanyahu’s part, instead of interfering directly as he did with Obama’s election, this time he got the job done discretely. Very cunning….
You are right that Israel has bought US Congress and they are in Israel’s pocket.
Hallo Saker:the American political class have completely lost credibility and prestige with the people they rule.
For how long is this sustainable:500 against 300 000 000.
I born and grew up in Cuba and vividly remember how jealous was Fidel in not losing credibility and prestige with the people.
And Fidel all by himself will take away the lunch of all todays member of the political class.
Some IsraHellis are calling for Iran and Germany! to be nuked:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/op-ed-calls-on-israel-to-nuke-germany-iran/
The Tribe aka Death Cult has no breaks in their death quest.
After an eight year war with Saddam’s Iraq, where he was fought to a standstill, Iran is going to be attacked again according to Saker.
Most of the world does not understand Shia theology, which is a bit different from that of the Sunni Muslims.
From a young age, Shias’ are taught about Muhammed’s grandson, Husain and his fight against tyranny
With a tiny group (less than 100) he defied an army of thousands and went to certain death.
Iran is 95% Iraq is 65% Lebenon is 40% Shia. These countries have Hussein and Ali, as their heroes.
Both Ali and Hussein (Grandson of Muhammad) were liberal in their views ( viewed in Islamic terms).
Israel and USA will have to have boots on the ground to subdue all these countries.
If Israel and US attack Iran, Iraq, Syria, Hizebollah will not hesitate to join Iran and counter attack them.
One big question is what Russia and China will do or are doing now. Will they support Iran? With the full range of their newest weapons? Are they still arming Iran? Can or will China as investor put economical pressure on the USA?
By the way, perhaps its China or Russia or both who retain the US for attacking North Korea. China can threaten the US to smash their economy.
Whoever thinks this rapper can be rolled over by an offer of a top place at Harvard University or a million high-value Treasury Bonds is crazy. Good point Saker – what about the rest of Iran?
Every single Iranian will pick up arms to defend the country. These are people who do not fear death but chase it. These are people who love their martyrs more than the living. When the US dares to attack I believe it will be the end of the US and their allies including Israel. It will not be a one country war. South Lebanon will head to Palestine, Syria to the Golan.
Mark in the comments is right. Russia and China have become willing partners to the US. I wouldn’t say they are pretending to be on the opposite side of foreign conflicts but they have found a way to mutually benefit in their disagreements. Since Trump has been president China has shut up about Syria. Thanks to that chocolate cake I guess.
America, the “MASTERBLASTER” from the movie “Thunderdome” a giant moron ridden on and directed by Twisted Jewish Dwarves ……..
Where is the investigation of ISRAELI “collusion in American elections”?!
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/29/how-soon-can-we-get-aipac-owned-traitors-out-of-congress/
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=Q05
How many of YOUR/America’s $4+BILLION in WELFARE given to Israel every year comes back to America in the form of BRIBES to “american” politicians? Traitors voting to give Israel MORE, so they can get bigger BRIBES http://investmentwatchblog.com/former-us-lawmaker-cynthia-mckinney-says-every-candidate-for-congress-has-to-sign-a-pledge-to-vote-for-supporting-the-military-superiority-of-israel/
What is good for Israel should be good for America. NO “dual citizen” allowed in government. Israel: Three dual-citizen MKs ordered to annul their foreign passports
by Shahar Ilan – Haaretz – Feb18 2009
The Central Elections Committee has ordered three Knesset members with dual citizenship to annul their foreign passports by next Tuesday’s swearing-in ceremony, or at least begin steps to cancel them.
The three lawmakers are Yohanan Plesner of Kadima (who has Danish citizenship), Nitzan Horowitz of Meretz (a Polish citizen) and Yisrael Beiteinu’s Anastasia Michaeli, who holds a Russian passport. The Basic Law on the Knesset states that “a member of Knesset holding an additional citizenship that is not Israeli … will not take the oath of loyalty until he has done everything he can to relinquish it.” –
Nobody can have loyalty to TWO Nations at the same time. So nobody with “dual citizenship” should be allowed to hold any post in our government, JUST like Israel does.
By the way ……. How many CHRISTIANS sit in the Israeli “knesset”? has ANY? EVER?
CHRISTIAN tax dollars bought and paid for Israel —- their knesset should be 50% CHRISTIAN.
Israel would not EXIST without JESUS CHRIST and the tax dollars of HIS Flock.
What the Jewish Rabbis think of JESUS “As for Christianity, there is a dispute among Halachic authorities, but the vast majority consider it idolatry as well. Islam, on the other hand, is not considered idolatry.”
Read that last bit again VERY SLOWLY so the “christianzionists” can follow: “ISLAM, on the other hand, is NOT considered idolatry.” ………..
“My opinion of Christian Zionists? They’re scum. But don’t tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now.” — Benyamin Netanyahu, at the time a former. prime minister”
A major problem in the USA today is the concept of “dual citizenship”. Until 1968, “dual citizenship” was strictly prohibited. An Eastern European (I forget which country) wanted to vote in his home country’s election without losing his American citizenship. As a result of a lawsuit, the courts ruled in his favor. The Jews took full advantage of this new “right”. As a result, we have forty or so congresscritters and senators who hold “dual nationality” with Israel. In addition, there are thousands of “dual nationality” influential “policy wonks” and others that are infecting MY country’s government that have no allegiance to the USA and have split loyalties, siding with Israel. In addition, there are many “dual nationality” Americans who are in Israel, who have enlisted in the IDF (Israel Defense Forces) in contravention of American law, but are never prosecuted…WHY?? Jews are almost non-existent in the American military, but Jew Americans are overrepresented in the IDF. It is long overdue to prohibit “dual citizenship” and to deport those who will not renounce their foreign citizenship.
The Three Most Troubling Falsehoodds in Trump’s Iran Speech
https://www.niacouncil.org/three-troubling-falsehoods-trumps-iran-speech/