Okay, I decided to squeeze in one more post before taking time off for Holy Paskha, this is well worth it.
Some of you have asked about China’s role in all this, in what the real interests of the USA are, how the EU is positioning itself and what Russia does or does not want. And, somehow, bogged down by the minutiae of the unfolding events I managed to never mention something which Putin, Lavrov and many other top Russian politicians have repeatedly said:
What is happening today before our eyes is the end of one international system and the birth of a qualitatively different one.
Interestingly, Putin has declared that for him the point of no return was reached when the USA and its allies at the UNSC and NATO clearly and grossly twisted the intention of the UNSC on Libya and “upgraded” what should have been a “no fly” zone to a free-fire zone to attack and bomb Libya [of course, it was pretty darn clear to Putin that the “all necessary means to protect civilians” of the resolution was an open ended invitation for the AngloZionists to “interpret” it in any way they wanted; now his says that Russia was “lied to” in order to not blame Medvedev for walking into a 10 foot wide hole. But that is irrelevant here]. Putin says that from then on he had acquired the conviction that the West could not be negotiated with and had to be simply stopped. Then Syria happened: for the first time since the end of WWII the USA had decided to do something and was stopped by an outside power in the most humiliating way possible.
The Russian stance on Syria was an overt challenge to US world hegemony. It was clearly understood as such in Washington and now, following the crisis in the Ukraine, the Russians have openly admitted this.
So this is the real stake of the civil war in the Ukraine: for the USA it is to punish Russia for daring to challenge the world hegemon; for Russia it is to unseat this hegemon and replace him by a multi-polar international system in which sovereign countries act within the bounds of international law. You could say that even though most of the Security Council is vehemently opposed to that, Russia is trying to show to the world that the USA does not own the UN and that it only represents 1/5th of the P5 and 1/15th of the UNSC.
The West has slouched into a position of total submission to the USA and its domination tools over Europe: the EU and NATO. The central Europeans have even volunteered to become a US protectorate, a territory to house US missile systems and secret CIA prisons.
With the exception of Iran and Syria, the Arab and Muslim world has sold out, some to the USA, others to Saudi Arabia, most to both at the same time. Latin America tries hard, but is still heavily dependent on the USA while Africa just wants to survive the best it can. As for Asia, some parts are as sold out as Europe (Japan, Korea), others are trying to keep a low profile, while China is clearly quietly standing behind Russia but in an externally undeniable way even though China stands to benefit more than any other country on the planet from a change in the international order.
The Russians would have much preferred to wait, to buy time, but the US determination to punish it for daring to oppose it on Syria literally forced them to fold and surrender or openly accept the US challenge and stand firm.
I will repeat that again and again – Putin had no other choice.
And now that this is all in the open, you can be absolutely sure that Russia is not playing to return to the status quo ante. With an amazing candidness both Putin and Lavrov have openly spelled out their goal on Russian TV (Lavrov on the show “Sunday Evening with Vladimir Soloviev” and Putin on during his 4 hours long Q&A yesterday).
So this is the Russian end-goal: to unseat the USA from its role as a world hegemon. And that goal implies a much longer, bigger and more sustained effort that just force the freaks in Kiev to the negotiating table. Among other things, this goal implies that Russia must:
1) Force the Europeans to fully realize the outrageous price they are paying for being the obedient and silent vassals of the USA and slowly drive a wedge between the USA and Europe.
2) Force the USA to admit that it does not have the military might to punish or, even less so, “regime change” anybody they don’t like.
3) Encourage China and other Asian powers to openly stand with Russia in demanding that international law be adhered to by the West.
4) Gradually replace the dollar with other currencies in international trade and thereby slow down the financing of the US debts by the rest of the planet.
5) Create the conditions for Latin America and Africa to be able to make choices about its future and replace the current monopoly enjoyed by the West in setting the terms of North-South relations.
6) Present another civilizational model which openly reject the current Western paradigm of a society run by small and arrogant minorities.
7) Challenge the current liberal and capitalist economic order embodied in the Washington Consensus and replace it by a model of social and international solidarity (call it “21 century socialism” if you want).
All of the above can be summed up in one word: re-sovereignization.
Since he got elected, Putin mentioned many times the need for a re-sovereignization of Russia. The Ukrainian crisis has forced him reveal the real end goal of his agenda: to re-sovereignize the entire planet.
This is a tall order and it will take many years, possibly decades, to achieve this goal, though my personal feeling is that the total incompetence and infinite arrogance of of the 1%ers plutocrats which rules over the western world will continue to accelerate that process.
The big question now is this: can the AngloZionist Empire follow the example of the Soviet Empire and collapse without triggering a massive bloodbath on its way down?
There will be violence, for sure, as has been with the former Soviet Union. But if we can avoid a global conflagration or even a large scale massive war then that would have to be considered as success because it is when they collapse that empires become the most dangerous and unpredictable.
I hope that the above answers many of the questions which have been posted here.
Many thanks and kind regards,
The Saker
PS: I just got this amazing video of a woman stopping a APC in Kramatorsk with her bare hands. I guess she could be seen as a symbol of what Russia wants to do with the AngloZionist Empire:
“Then Syria happened: for the first time since the end of WWII the USA had decided to do something and was stopped by an outside power in the most humiliating way possible.”
That simply is not true. What stopped the US was 30 British backbenchers who stopped Cameron and, in the process, forced Obama to take it to a vote in Congress. Russia had nothing to do with it.
Hi Saker
Food for thought or just another GM burger…..
Trunews January 27, 2014 Jim Wille
Does China Own The Fed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBXj0XFDZcQ
This video is a must. (you can ignore the first 6 mins)
Fed Reserve 1913 – 100 year contract – 2014?
Prince Bandar
Gold grab
Banking: Fiscal money: QE (Quantative Easing)
NSA spying: Germany: Russian oil & gas: Ukraine
Maybe some of the readers might have other insights as to what is really going on.
Hi Saker
Food for thought or just another GM burger…..
Trunews January 27, 2014 Jim Wille
Does China Own The Fed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBXj0XFDZcQ
This video is a must. (you can ignore the first 6 mins)
Fed Reserve 1913 – 100 year contract – 2014?
Prince Bandar
Gold grab
Banking: Fiscal money: QE (Quantative Easing)
NSA spying: Germany: Russian oil & gas: Ukraine
Maybe some of the readers might have other insights as to what is really going on.
Sorry, in my opinion you’re badly wrong in mainly giving credit to Putin for stopping the war. The immense pressure from the uk and the us electorate (telephone calls to the us congress were 4000 to 1 against the war) and from the us military were what forced the politicians to save face. The us military chiefs of staff told Obama they would begin to leak like hell if the war started and got to be difficult. Putin and lavrov merely gave Obama a face saving way out.
China has been very cautious through this whole Ukrainian crises but there is no doubt that they have to be very pleased with the way Russia has played its hands. They know as well as we do that Putin was forced by US provocation.
China also must realize that if Putin had capitulated it would have weakened China’s hand in the world. This follows since with great amount of noise, Sec Hillary announced the big pivot to Asia which was nothing other than a declaration to the Chinese that our foreign policy was now going to be directed at containing China. Now that whole pivot policy looks like a total joke. Every island country in east Asia must be wondering today what the US could possibly do to back up their threats against China. Why Russia, a mere “regional” power has challenged Obama, and there is nothing he can do about it.
The next steps will be increased military and economic ties between China and Russia. The central Asian nations will know where their interests lie. The Shanghai Cooperation Organization, might be a little dated right now but we should expect to see it grow into or be replaced by something with much more substance. This will be an organization that will include Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan and probably Pakistan will secretly want to join.
Yes saker, the big danger is the US, as we lose power there is a possibility in some act of desperation we set off a war will the whole world will lose.
Dear Saker,
Sound like Russia after all does have a role to play beyond just being a decent nation as many of your readers have maintained. Call it leadership by example but leadership nevertheless. I for one am happy to see Russia trying to help the rest of the world to discover what they have learned the hard way.
Thanks.
Anonymous quoted The Saker:
“Then Syria happened: for the first time since the end of WWII the USA had decided to do something and was stopped by an outside power in the most humiliating way possible.”
Then said:
“That simply is not true. What stopped the US was 30 British backbenchers who stopped Cameron and, in the process, forced Obama to take it to a vote in Congress. Russia had nothing to do with it.”
Ah, yes, the high moral sense of the British at its finest! Or was it? I seem to recall that the real reason the US did not proceed with the bombardment of Syria using Tomahawk cruise missiles is that the US discovered that the Russians could jam their electronics, causing them to miss their targets completely.
So to avoid a highly embarrassing military fiasco the US had to find a way to cancel the planned attack, which it did with the help of Cameron, who graciously allowed those 30 backbenchers to scuttle the British vote to join the US in the attack.
I disagree with those who say that Syria bombing was prevented by UK or US public opinion. Russia’s staunch support for Assad and willingness to stand against the US/West was an important factor for anyone’s opinion.
As Saker points out, no one stood up for Lybia and they were bombed without Congressional approval or public approval.
Greetings from Singapore:
China will open & actively join Russia’s aims after a serious provocation by Japan on the disputed islands. Understand that the U.S is pushing Japan to do so soonest.
After Russia finishes building the South Stream pipeline, and after the incoming deal between Russia and China re gas (and possibly oil?) is struck, and the subsequent (are they needed?) pipelines are also built, Russia must abandon the dollar once and for all, along with the Chinese, who by then will be in a better position as their economy will be very close or larger than America’s.
As an energy superpower, Russia, by dealing in dollars, aids America’s capability to overspend and maintain military supremacy, thus indirectly contributing to the encirclement of Russia and China.
If the dollar is swept from the world as its reserve currency, how do you think those 800+ American bases worldwide will be maintained? By not paying the military contractors and their hardware? By not paying the soldiers? By not being able to use so much fuel and add the costs to your debt now that your currency is no longer the world reserve? By cutting social services and raising taxes in order to try to (vainly) maintain military supremacy? America would be f*cked.
South Stream will also serve as a leverage over Bulgarian politics, and strengthen Russia’s grip of the EU.
Abandon the dollar, use your leverage as an energy superpower by demanding payment in another currency, dealing a blow to the US, weaking it both economically and militarily, tactfully forcing the EU to break away from American hegemony. That’s how I’d do it.
In following the steps described above, Russia, in order to “finish off” America, needs either France or Germany, preferably the latter, if it is to destroy US and NATO hegemony in the world completely. Germany is of utmost strategic importance for Russia.
I wish there would be a huge protest in Germany, to the tune of 500 thousand people, all marching to American bases, occupying them, and destroying every equipment inside it, and demanding an end to their presence. Why don’t Germans protest their occupiers? I really hope one day this dream of mine will materialize. If someone gets killed by the occupiers, Germans would go batshit crazy.
I consider this analysis as correct and don’t dare to challenge it but I think there are additional dimensions or viewpoints like:
The role of the global financial system which via US bonds, petrodollar/dollar reserve currency, and holding of the gold reserves from many nations in the vaults of Manhatten and Fort Knox is funding the US war machine.
The role of global exploitation and neo-colonialism. The US imports financed by fiat money created out of thin air by the FED can be rightfully viewed as exploitation. The IMF loans with interest rates that let look the IMF like an ordinary loan shark is exploitation. The manipulated prices of commodities and vital technological products are exploitation, the property right regime (for instance medical drugs and GM-seeds) is exploitation.
All this can only be changed when global trade is diminishing (what fortunately seems to be happening right now)and global support systems are gradually replaced by national, regional, and local support systems.
In this respect economic sanctions, though painful at the moment, help to compel the necessary change to a self-sufficient economy. Both Russia and China are big enough to build up national support systems and production lines that can manufacture and distribute goods in high enough numbers to make “economic of scales” considerations irrelevant.
A breakdown of the international finance system would have the additional advantage that banks, equity firms, other criminal institutions, and of course the oligarchs would loose their playground. They may own billions but it is all virtual. What really matters is food and shelter for the people and the tools to produce the necessities of life.
The financial sector is just parasitic. Of course, a sudden breakdown could be chaotic and the USA has still its military power, the Yankeys don’t need the global financial system to exploit the rest of the word, they can take what they need by force (seizing oil wells, commanding container ships, coercing trading partners, installing puppet dictators with bloody coups).
But the US imperium risks to loose their European vassals. The relentless propaganda war against Russia has the one and only aim to brainwash the European public, making people believe that economic suicide for the sake of US world dominance is the only option.
US soft power (Hollywood, TV, corporate media, Facebook/Twitter, etc.) is real but surveys seem to indicate, that it is not sufficient to subdue and sedate the European public.
A significant faction of Russia’s political elite always wanted de-globalization and they will take their chance now. The blueprints for an economic transition (a more self-sufficient, austere, and sustainable economy) are in the drawers and Russia will be able to manage the change. Putin will get rid of the oligarchs, even his supporter Abramovitsch (victor in the Aluminum wars) will be sidelined.
The Europeans in the end could be the ones who will pay the highest price.
“What is happening today before our eyes is the end of one international system and the birth of a qualitatively different one.”
A statement that is eerily similar to Condoleeza Rice’s “birth pangs of a new Middle East”, her description of the Israeli invasion and bombing of Lebanon.
Her statement was typical of the attitude toward the blunders of the Empire builders. But increasingly I think they were not blunders, but rather they were intentional destructions of societies that opposed them. Nice people.
Your statement is certainly at the wishful thinking stage right now. And it is incredibly difficult to be hopeful when so much seems to depend on just one man, Putin.
I live in Siberia. How you think why we hate Europe, the USA? all of us hate! it isn’t important that there are good people… I went not so long ago to Mexico and I communicated with people. Brian (husband) and. (wife)… the wife speaks: “Russia boob, huge boobs and on them flow the huge rivers of vodka”, Brian: “close the mouth of a bough! “… how to understand your people?
Your mention of the woman stopping the tank brought to mind that iconic image of the Palestinian woman with her arms raised in front of the giant (American-made) bulldozer. It used to be everywhere online but Google now has it as well-buried as the remains of her home. It also reminds of Rachel Corrie, ruthlessly run over twice and crushed by the IDF in Rafah, Gaza on March 16, 2003. And at this point, old Nora’s got more tears than thoughts or words: how do I ask you here who don’t believe to do the equivalent of prayer these next few holy days?
Saker, be the friend, explain why us don’t love why the Russian people try to defame? we can answer with a fight and sometimes so happens, but we want only respect
I concur with this comment from a previous thread: “And I think that there is one more asset that Putin has gained by his clever diplomacy whatever the outcome: The western propaganda machine will have to rise its voice some decibels more because now Lavrov and Putin showed that they do not hinder any peaceful solution.”
Yes, the West will not only have to at some point admit the vast majority of the ‘people making trouble’ in SE Ukraine for the new government are Ukrainian citizens, even if the controllers are said to be Russian. Why would so many in Ukraine’s SE willingly take up arms if their Western-backed government is so wonderful and listens to their concerns? Even the neocon hacks at Buzzfeed had to quote the SE Ukrainians denying that they had anything to do with the ‘Jews must register’ flyers and insisting that they were a provocation. If Rosie Gray who’s normally in the tank for the NSA and the State Dept. is asking why Kerry is referring to some bogus flyers, then you know the Western MSM/State Dept. PR machine is breaking down — their articles denouncing the awesome Goebbelsian power of Russian propaganda are basically whining that they’re losing the infowar.
Furthermore, thanks to the presence of Graham W. Phillips and so many camera phones on the ground even the most fanatically Russophobic presstitutes will also have a hard time covering up attempts by the junta to ‘restore order’ that will involve use of tanks/BTRs and even attack helicopters and artillery — all ‘war toys’ Yanukovich never seriously considered deploying even after the Maidanistas set one BTR on fire with a multi-pronged Molotov cocktail barrage (immortalized in the Dmitry Yarosh/Right Sector recruiting video).
OTH, I’ve noticed while some comments were sincere but overwrought regarding Lavrov ‘selling out’ or ‘recognizing the junta’, this site is starting to attract a greater degree of snark and perhaps (we hope not) the paid trolls that tend to try and take over other sites comments and herd the commenters in particular directions.
“That simply is not true. What stopped the US was 30 British backbenchers who stopped Cameron and, in the process, forced Obama to take it to a vote in Congress. Russia had nothing to do with it.”
Russia had a ton to do with it, because the US could’ve still acted without the UK, despite the humiliation the back benchers inflicted on David Cameron.
Take it from another Anon who should know the US military was far more concerned about the possibility of advanced Russian hardware being transferred to Assad and inflicting losses on the air offensive than were the armchair warriors and neocons. Hell, CJCS Gen. Dempsey basically undermined the White House by making the targeting package so big the WH started walking it back with ridiculous comments about ‘pinprick precision strikes’ so that Obama looked foolish even before he abandoned the strikes. Whatever other mistakes Dempsey has made as a commander, I shall always be grateful to him for keeping America out of yet another stupid war — to the point that the neocon hacks at the U.S. Naval War College like Prof. Tom Nichols compared Dempsey’s actions to the 1960s movie about a military coup against a US-USSR peace treaty-signing president, “Seven Days in May”! Desperation begets stupidity which begets more stupidity!
So this Pascha for all sincere opponents of the New World Order/Anglo-American globalist empire, I say be of good cheer. The wicked globalists’ hopes for either a quick victory in SE Ukraine against the rebels or baiting the Russian Bear into Afghanistan-on-the-Dnieper both lay in smoldering ruins. Time is on the freedom loving peoples of the world’s side not Washington or the petrodollar’s side.
This is a tall order and it will take many years, possibly decades, to achieve this goal.
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It is also possible that the fall of the single global hegemon follows a trajectory similar to that of the USSR in that it collapses extremely quickly.
All this really takes is a recognition by multiple parties that they have made themselves subservient to something that will, in the end, consume them, that deprives them of their freedoms, that bends them in service to the needs of the hegemon and offers little in the way of trade-offs or benefits.
Look at the world of the past decade, or the last year. What do you see. In addition to unjustified invasion of Iraq, the ongoing drone murders around the globe, countless US military outposts, all communications being subject to NSA collection (including commercial transactions and trade secrets), US manipulation of the climate accords to the detriment of those states least able to respond to climate changes, the displacement of the UN by the G7, the “weaponization” of fiscal policy, the demands of the IMF, and World Bank, creation of a trade sanctions regime that delivers control to the USA, the current “Pivot to Asia,” and the TPP, then I think there is much to give pause to any citizen or concerned member of government. All it takes is for one to begin to question the Emperor’s new clothes, to realize that his dress is an illusion that we provide to him, to shatter the prevailing model and initiate a transition to something new.
And as the example of the USSR showed, such a transition can happen almost overnight.
Cheers!
Another highly perceptive (and inspiring) article by The Saker, which is now to be seen (with typos corrected) at
The Re-Sovereignization of Planet Earth
It’s true that the U.S. is run by crazy psychopaths, and with their Empire crumbling around them, and their self-delusion of ‘American exceptionalism’, anything could happen (and probably will).
Anonymous Serendipity said…
Thanks You and I’m sure the other voice would have been Gen. Dempsey saying “What are you Nuts”
If I remember correctly the Syrians can jam the signal also with a simple device built in Russia.
Thanks for knocking that down
Well now: Lavrov has already spoken to Kerry about Ukraine’s non-implementation of yesterday’s proto-roadmap. http://rt.com/news/kiev-clashes-rioters-police-571/
“Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and US Secretary of State John Kerry have held a phone conversation and agreed to continue talks on the settlement of the Ukraine crisis.The diplomats discussed possibilities for international assistance in the normalization of the situation in the country following yesterday’s four-party talks in Geneva, the Russian Foreign Ministry said.
Ukrainian authorities must implement the Geneva deal immediately and in full, including putting an end to violent actions and the launching of a national dialogue on constitutional reform, which is to include key regions and major political forces.”
I wonder how well the world’s only — and utterly exceptional — superpower responds to (daily?) nagging. Or were there other carrots (and sticks) involved?
Some info-bits:
Bulgarien fürchtet Blockade der South-Stream-Pipeline durch die EU
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/04/17/bulgarien-fuerchtet-blockade-der-south-stream-pipeline-durch-die-eu/
EU lenkt ein und spricht mit Putin über Gas
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/04/17/eu-lenkt-ein-und-spricht-mit-putin-ueber-gas/
China will Export-Begrenzung für Seltene Erden beibehalten
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/04/17/china-will-export-begrenzung-fuer-seltene-erden-beibehalten/
@anonymous 18 April, 2014 19:55
i don’t know where you’re from but i can tell you why germans don’t do the things you suggest.
1.) germany is still not unified – and almost every revolution they tried was beaten down.
you can see what happend last occupy demos when people were charged for “passive weapons” like umbrellas an muffers after they were brutally beaten by police forces – mothers, retirees, simply normal people- same happend in Stuttgart where people got heavily injured – even children, one man got blinded.
2.) they try everything to keep the west of the country rich and the east poor: 60 million vs. 16 million – public opinion is clearly made by the middle class from the west (mostly) and they believe the americans freed them from hitler and did only good things to them like the marshall plan. the generation born in the 80’s are not as blinded as their parents are and that is what you can see now.
more and more people in germany distrust the politicians, disagree with the eu – but they dont know what to do because of the “divede et impera” principle, they talk a lot on whatsapp but haven’t talked to their neighbor for years…
I totally agree with you that this would be a great sign but in their history the germans have (almost) never seen the inner enemy and they will fight each other with passion as they do(and often did – Napoleon made a good qote about it) it now in discussion forums on the internet.
the french, the spanish, the portugese, the greece, the italians – they all tried to change their politics – and failed.
that’s why i said “they pretend to be pro european”(The media, the politicians) because only if the european people stand together there is a small chance to change europe.. the only force in germany are the same thugs you saw on maidan – and i’m glad they are small in numbers!
it’s like saker said, same position russia has now applies to the european people – if they wake up it will take years, maybe decades for a new concoiusness, but what is happening at the moment in the german society gives me some hope.
there were a lot of rumors about election fraud in 2013 elections – the system will stay the same.
grassroots – thats the only answer in my opinion.
Again, i could write a lot more..
regards,
Ralph
One more info-bit:
Mythical “Jew Registration” in East Ukraine a Media Sensation
http://antiwar.com/blog/2014/04/17/mythical-jew-registration-in-east-ukraine-a-media-sensation/
Here is a good read on western power grab.
http://andrewgavinmarshall.com/2014/04/17/the-west-marches-east-part-1-the-u-s-nato-strategy-to-isolate-russia/
very candid analysis Saker.
but do nto foreget that behind this american might is brtish or rather english sc–um bag cabal whgo use usa to wage wars on the rest of world. they still dream of british empire backed by american might and british lies and plotting. such evil are they.
russia has to neautralise england and if possible elt english pairate race know that enlgand will be first to be nuked in any over war with russia. only then can russia deal with other problems
to anonymous-
who gives a damn abouty british mps -/ england is a thrid rate country which msut be nuked now. what role it has when itis english pairatres who are the main plotters of the war the world over including syrian(where the false syrian govt. is based in one flat) and crimia.
there is a time now to show england her place-which is very low down -except in spying.
CJCS Mike Dempsey informed the White House they will stand down from an air assault on Syria Sept. 2013, as the introduction of sophisticated anti-ship cruise missiles into the Mediterranean threaten the acceptable losses doctrine of USA Military. The cruise missiles would likely destroy all American Navel vessels in the Mediterranean in the first few hours of war. It is rumored the White House does not control the US Military in matters of war since the early nineties. The top levels of US military and Russian military are in constant communication to prevent the fools in government from starting a thermonuclear war of extinction.
It is my opinion the USD has reached the end of its time line and will be replaced soon, as the world reserve currency. Likely gold will be the reserve currency for settling trade accounts under the supervision of Central Banks. Note the ECB includes gold on the first line of its reserves. The world will go on without a dominant hegemon.
I recommend the work of Alexandr Dugin for a saker’s eye view of geopolitics in motion. History is on the move and it won’t be pretty for the exceptionalists of the Anglo-America-Zionist-Empire.
These lectures are in English.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sphg3SaRsII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU0SHO4hDgo
Rus knows not that prevention of war is possible only at early stage by confrontating anglo enemy.
All mentions of the Saxons during the 4th and early 5th centuries referred to as pirates and looters in Gaul and Britain-and this anglosaxon constitutes the core of what is called English nation which never left piracy and thievery in its short history.
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Russia is a sucker. They believed the US about the reset button. How’s the reset Russia? Worth it?
so how long will russia delay the asylum to an hero who exposed russian enemies plots?shame to rus.
Russia HAS NO CREDIBILITY to begin with. Russia and China sold Libya and have NO shame about it. They will do it again if the concession is good enough. Look at Syria. What Russia and
China have done except cheap talk to get better concessions? It was Hizbullah that save Dr. Bashar Asad and his mission to wipe the terrorist off the map who are supported by the zionists and imperialism war criminals. Try to see the facts.
THE WAY RUS-CHIN HAVE ACTED MUST HAVEGIVEN SUFFICIENT WARNING TO OTHER NATIONS THEY MUST RELY ON OWN
SO OTHER NATIONS MUST HAVE NUKES AND ICBM TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM ENGLAND AND ITS STOOGE USA.
Syria (Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya, …) should be a warning to all countries without nuclear missiles. With them you ensure your sovereignty without them you are a bullies wonderful dream.
US/NATO/Israel/Anglo-Saxons can never be friends to Russia and China. Their only Motive is how to destoy Russia and China by all means which they have done to Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Yoguslavia, Syria , Lebanon and many countries of world.
================================== President Putin is a patriot deserving of respect and admiration. He’s a very capable man who’s achieved so much for Russia after those disastrous years of lawlessness and anarchy, caused mainly by “Jewish” oligarchs and their backers from the West. This very same cabal is constantly trying to undermine his achievements and take Russia back to where they could rob and demoralize the Russian society.
Vladimir Putin knows what he’s doing and who the enemies of the Russian people are – he also knows who the friends of Russia are: China is one of them.
The recent US-backed wave of revolution sweeping the Middle East is just the beginning of a greater move to dislodge Iran and begin regaining ground against Russia and China after several years of disappointing results geopolitically. The ultimate goal in mind is to force Russia and China to accept their role as “responsible stakeholders” in the unipolar Anglo-American “new world order.” The unipolar world of Anglo-American financier domination requires that all competition be eliminated, all nations become interdependent, and most importantly, all governments conform to the globalists’ model of “civil society” which in turn answers to centralized global institutions.
Understanding the overarching plan reveals the danger of being apathetic or complacent about the current unrest in the Middle East. It will surely spread, and depending on the Shanghai Cooperative’s response and their determination to remain the masters of their own destiny, greater confrontation may ensue.
2013.
Moscow is concerned with North Korea’s plans to launch a Unha-3 rocket, which Pyongyang says is supposed to put a satellite into orbit, despite a ban by the Security Council.
this is exactly what is to be expected from SPINELESS RUSSIA AND CHINA. NO WONDER THSE TWO COUNTRIES ARE BEIGN ENCIRCLED TO EB DESTROYED WITH IN A DECADE BY THE ANGLOSAXON EVIL EMPIRE WHOSE TUNE THE RUSSIA AND CHINA ALWAYS ,WITHOUT FAIL ,SING AT THE LAST MOMNET AFTER INTITALLY OPPSING THE ANGLOS MOVE.
RUSSIA AND CHINA HAVE NO POWER -THEY CNANOT SET ANY AGENDA -THEY FOLLOW MEEKLY THE AGENDA SET UP FOR THEIR ENTRAPEMNNT BY THE ANLGOS SCUMBAGS-THEY ARE LOSER .IN LIBYA, ON SYRIA, ON NORTH KOREA, ON IRAN.
UNO MSUT BE DISAMNTLED ISNTEAD THSE TWO LOSERS ARE COUNTING ON UN TO SAVE RUSSIA AND CHINA. WHAT A FOOLS.
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=== Syria and Iran will not be last war for US, NATO, Israel and their Arab Puppet Regimes. Russia and China will be Next. Iran and Syria will give good fight even then if NATO succeeds by chance then Russia will Fall to NATO very very easily without much resistence.
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RUSSIA NOT REALIZE THAT IF EVER IRAN IS ATTACKED AND DEFEATED BY USA ATHEN RUSSIA WILL LOSE ALL STATUS AND PRESTIGE OF EVEN THIRD RATE PWOER INT HE WORLD AND THEN NO COUNTRY WILL BE WIILING TO BE ON SIDE OF Russia BECAUSE EVERYONE WANTS TO BE WITH A STRONG COUNTRY WHO CAN ORDER AND MANAGE THE AGENDA AS AMERICA IS TRYING TO DO AND THEN RUSSIA WILL BE DESTROYED AS IS THE VERY INTENTION OF ENGLAND AND HER CRONY USA?
RUSSIA MUST NOT LET USA SCORE ANY MORE POINT ANYWHERE LET ALONE IN IRAN OTHERWISE RUSSIA IS FINISHED EVEN AS A COUNTRY .
therefore china and russia msut prepare for war which is coming there way-but thse stupiud countries are allowingf anglosaxon to win in libya andnow in syria on oen ptetext or another. russia and china msut arm all those who oppose anglosaxon evil empoire and msut support inssurrerection ine ngland and usa then have those countries bombed.
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once written to the english paper long time ago–never published .
“The Russians should only start worrying when the West starts pouring praise and awards on president Putin. But so far so good! BRAVO VLADIMIR PUTIN!!!
it’s not surprising that people like you would rather have a return to the old 1990’s OSCE endorsed “elections” under which people apparently “voted” for Yeltsin despite the fact that the mafia were terrorising everybody in the country, the country was being looted by the “democracy & freedom fighters” from the USA and EU, Yeltsin had screwed up the Chechen insurrection etc. Yet… despite all this Al Gore still said that “Yeltsin was the best option for democracy”.
Russians had a taste of Luke Harding / Guardian / Economist / Edward Lucas “values” in the 1990’s when Russia was “democratically” looted and nearly steered into the Abyss by Yeltsin and his “democratic” Zionazi Circle such Borizovsky and “business leaders” like Khodorkovsky, heavily supported by the US and EU Governments.
In the 1990’s (under the rule of the heroes of Luke Harding & the Guardian) Russian’s lives were hell on earth faced with shortages, bankruptcy, anarchy, gangsterism, complete break downs in law and order, salaries being unpaid, mayhem on the borders and massive theft from the State on an Industrial Scale.
It’s well documented on the Internet how the 1990’s were “dark times” in Russia, what kind of misery ordinary peoples lives were being made by the oligarchs and their Western Liberal partners.
Only since the 2000’s there’s been a slow return to “normality” even though many problems remain to be resolved. Which country is perfect?
You’re fkn delusional coming here to Pravda effectively lecturing us that what “Russia Needs” is a return to the 1990’s style Economic and Political Liberalism (as advocated by The Guardian, Economist, Edward Lucas, Luke Harding) as if this would be some kind of improvement on Putin.
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Elections under “democracy” are a joke because the only candidates who stand a realistic chance of being elected have been pre-vetted by the ZOG system. You can vote for any candidate you like, provided he / she has been pre-vetted by ZOG! Unless this condition is met they’ll receive no promotion in the CORPORATE OWNED Media, there will be no career advancement path inside the major political parties who stand the only realistic chance of grabbing power.
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You know during the 1st election of GW Bush Jr, there was a massive fraud that involved disenfranchisement of over 2million black voters in Florida. The woman responsible was one Kathryn Harris, who spoke with a high school’s accent and got away with the fraud. At that time she was the Secretary of State of Florida and a Republican. Otherwise Al Gore should have won.
Though Bush Jr lost by the popular votes he got through thanks to the stupid Electoral College Vote system. Rest is history.
Now the same western experts want to monitor Russia’s upcoming elections. Where were they when this huge fraud took place in US?
Putin should boot them out if you ask me!
Maybe Russia should allow the Russian High Court to determine who the president of Russia (just like the first George Bush Jr Presidency) is before the Government of the US or Europe shows any sighs of respect?
“‘Soft power’ doesn’t work for us”. So said a Russian diplomat, We need people to be afraid of us and we seem to be unable to find a proper substitute for military power,” he said…..he is correct!
Can you blame Russia for this kind of thinking! No matter what they do to show the west and frankly…. to be perfectly frank,..Russia is more democratic than the US, because more people vote per head of population in Russia than the (US-about 33% of the population).
To Russia’s Putin…my opinion is, do not bother to try to accommodate Western demands, if you did you would seem like Chamberlain.
Tell the West to shove those (saboteurs actually) up there backside and who cares what they say!
They are never going to believe in Russian democratic processes anyway, no matter how transparent, unless they put a US stooge in place of Putin…after all Past Precedents have criminal form!
4th June, 2007.
President putin is wrong when he says that russia should or will target the missile on europe if america goes with anti missile defence plan in Europe.
Russia must target (rather than should) the nuclear missiles with multiple war heads against all the cities, towns and big villages( including military instalations) of england because this cold war -like the one before- is being started by england for the benefit of english race only-.it is race war between the english parasite race versus the rest of the world-the sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it is for the world.
look how Germany wes vilified soon after fall of soviet union-look how russia is being vilified immediately after Putin made russia strong.
-such is the evil propaganda of British spies inside america. .
poland is nothing but a proxy for the british bastards.
itis no use targeting Poland -target the main villain which is england and the english race which m ust be annihilated from the face of the world.
there is another interesting – a little older, but it’s still important.
http://www.welt.de/regionales/duesseldorf/article13906946/Britische-Armee-bringt-6000-Fahrzeuge-nach-MGladbach.html
regards,
Ralph
Dear The Saker,
Thank you for this. Wishing you a good Holy Paskha.
Rgds,
Veritas
Is the alliance between the US and Israel crumbling?
israeli media seems to be absolutely not in line with US/EU propaganda. i watched israeli media for some time on the events in ukraine, but it seems to me that they initially were on the same page covering “maidan”, but their enthusiasm seems to fade rapidely…
f. ex. “Haaretz” had today, on its frontpage:
an op-ed titled “End the special us-israel-relationship?”,
the headline “Lieberman: EU’s Ashton doesn’t grasp world’s problems”,
an article about putin honoring “the hughe contribution of russian jews to its society”
as well as an article calling the infamous “jews have to register” leavelet kerry presented in geneva a fake.
“CJCS Mike Dempsey informed the White House they will stand down from an air assault on Syria Sept. 2013, as the introduction of sophisticated anti-ship cruise missiles into the Mediterranean threaten the acceptable losses doctrine of USA Military.”
Like the ‘off switch’ to the USS Donald Cook that was supposedly deployed as a SU-24 buzzed it 12 times (for Twelve Apostles during Holy Week?) this claim doesn’t seem verifiable (though I’m not saying it’s impossible).
What was clear to anyone who could look at the ZeroHedge maps was that the US Navy in contrast to episodes like the Gulf of Tonkin when Navy ships got as close to the ‘enemy’ coast as possible, the Navy was keeping their AEGIS destroyers and cruisers at least 250 miles offshore from Syria all past the envelope of Patriot missile or air cover from Cyprus — particularly before the Cypriots paid back the EU by telling NATO they would not allow offensive sorties from Cypriot territory (another factor in the UK back bencher revolt since the Brits have owned Cyprus since the 19th century and had deployed Tornado strike fighter jets there in preparation for bombing Syria). That 250 mile threshold would also keep the destroyers in easy Tomahawk range of Syria but out of the known range for land based anti-shipping missiles either of the Yakhont (which the Israelis kept bombing perhaps on the USA’s behalf) or hypersonic Ukrainian-designed ‘Sunburn’ variety. Thus the anti-ship missile threat combined with the rumored introduction of S-300s or Iskander surface to surface missiles did have the potential to not stop a US offensive but inflict serious casulties — which would magnify opposition to an already 65-70% plus unpopular war Obama would’ve had to wage without House or Senate approval!
Finally, if the Israelis have an ‘off switch’ to the S-300’s sophisticated radar or fire control systems, one that many have speculated was sold to them by the Russian military in return for some Israeli technology developed at US taxpayer expense, it stands to reason that the Russians would also have some electronic blinding systems of their own. Remember while the US had the lead in applied technology for most of the Cold War after the 1960s the Soviets were equal or better in pure energy physics including lasers like the SDI ‘Star Wars’ technology. So it seems to me quite probable that the CJCS feared the introduction of serious Russian weaponry into a US/NATO war against Syria. Any Iskander missile strike on a U.S. barracks in northern Jordan would be dismissed as a ‘lucky shot from a Syrian SCUD’ when SCUDS almost never hit such precise targets during the Persian Gulf War. In reality the Iskander is every bit as accurate as the Tomahawk and possesses a bigger warhead.
The Geneva agreement on Ukraine, translated
Semyon Uralov, odnako.org
From CllubOrlov:
http://cluborlov.blogspot.ca/2014/04/the-geneva-agreement-on-ukraine.html
The talks in Geneva resulted in an agreement that is in favor of all that is good and opposed to all that is bad. That’s the basic gist of it; but what does that mean? Let’s translate this memorandum from the language of high diplomacy into the language of the Ukrainian crisis.
Kiev’s government representative was invited to participate in his role as a potted plant—because there is nothing to discuss with him. On this all the participants were in complete agreement. That is, there is no government in Kiev, in the sense of an entity that exercises sovereign authority over the territory of Ukraine. This is understood equally well in Moscow, in Brussels and even in Washington. Thus, the actual talks were between USA+EU and Russia.
Russia’s position is that Kiev doesn’t have a government, it has a God-only-knows-what. It makes no difference what they are called or who they are. They have no power and they control nothing. They do not control the economy, or energy, or the army, or the police, or even their supporters who are running around waving machine guns.
The position of USA+EU: “That’s not true! There’s a perfectly nice government in Kiev, we made it ourselves, and we hold discussions and even sign agreements with them.”
In view of the difference between these two positions, further discussion is pointless. Therefore, it is necessary to run an experiment and to establish a simple fact: are the dramatis personae in Kiev a government, or aren’t they?
The authorities in Kiev have to prove themselves. To do that, they have to disarm and reign in their freaky supporters, grant amnesty to their opponents, and begin to exercise control over the army and the police. If they prove that they are in control, then it will possible to move to the next phase in resolving the crisis.
The ball is now in their court. If they can prove that they are a power, then there will be a step-by-step resolution to the crisis. If they don’t, then the crisis will be resolved on their behalf, and they won’t be invited to participate, even as potted plants.
Considering that these personages have already reneged on a previous international agreement—in February of this year—it might have been smarter for them not to sign this one. Because if they don’t live up to this one either, then nobody will want to offer them political cover—not Brussels, not even Washington.
Hi Saker,
While I like and approve your analyses, I must say that I am not happy with the term “AngloZionist Empire”. I already learnt and appreciated that this is not directed against “The Jews” as you repeatedly explained.
Yet I think that it is not correct to regard USA, UK, and Israel as something like a joint empire.
UK, in my opinion, is subdued under US hegemony no less than other European countries, only admitted to “privileged” poodle services. Granted, the city of London is playing an own role in the financial quagmire, but has no leverage on the “imperial” politics. UK politicians have even less freedom. Schröder could oppose Irak invasion to some extent, Bliar could not.
Israel is different. Sure they have a powerful lobby in the US, in all camps, and they still benefit from the authority the Shoah gives even their unreasonable moves. Yet all Israeli politicians use their influence for politics – questionable as they are e.g. towards the Palestinians – widely independent from the US, and often directly or covertly contradicting them. Their way to act towards China may be seen as sabotage of US Asia pivot, and they have close and developping relationships with Russia, they even boycotted (with an excuse) the Crimea condemnation in the United Nations.
Thus, without wanting to blame you for antisemitism or similar, I would like to get an explanation in how far the crumbling empire led by the US hegemon can be called AngloZionist.
best, a^2
@a^2: must say that I am not happy with the term “AngloZionist Empire”
I thank you for the opportunity to explain what I mean by that.
What I mean is that the world today is ruled by a group of Anglo countries (USA, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand) of the so-called UKUSA Agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement). To this, I add Israel which has pretty much “colonized” the USA though the Obama Presidency showed that what I call “the old Anglo guard” is still powerful and that the Neocons cannot rule alone. The question of who is boss inside the power configuration gets different responses depending on who you ask, but the three candidates for that top dog position are the USA, the UK and Israel. I personally think that neither country per se has that position, but a transnational behind the scenes and informal alliance which then *delegates* tasks/missions to these countries depending on what needs to be done. The USA obviously deals with military issues, the UK deals with banking, Israel with political subversion and propaganda (more or less, they all do all these things to some degree, of course).
Also, I want to make clear that in all three cases I am NOT talking about the people of the USA, the UK or Israel has they have exactly *zero* say about what the ruling 1% does.
Does what I wrote here make sense to you and, if not, can what can you suggest?
Many thanks and kind regards,
The Saker
PS: I have noticed that a number of posters have made idiotic statements here about who Russia should exterminate all Brits, nuke western cities, etc. The fact that I let these imbeciles post here is not a sign that I endorse what they are saying. In fact, I am seriously considering changing my moderation policies, but I will deal with that next week. So please do not be offended – there are idiots everywhere. Just ignore them, that is what I mostly do :-)
(…) it has now come to light that the US Agency for International Development has a large slush fund “where millions are paid to political figures in foreign countries.”
(…) If you have four hours, watch President Putin’s amazing open press conference with the Russia people and then try to imagine an American or European leader capable of such a feat. The Russians have a real leader. We have two-bit punks.
(…) A government that relies on propaganda cannot be believed about anything. Americans misinformed by a prostitute media are in no position to protect the US Constitution and their liberty. Misinformed, they become tyranny’s allies and their own worst enemy.
Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/18/what-makes-america-exceptional/
evil is not finished until it is killed.
http://www.infowars.com/cia-will-soon-roll-out-death-squads-to-deal-with-activists-in-eastern-ukraine/
@The Saker,
i agree (for what this is worth) completely with your analysis that Russia is now overtly challenging the US (or AngloZionist) world hegemony. Successfully so.
I think this is not happening so fast because Russia herself is itching to do so, but because it just must. Russia does not so much trash-talk about red lines, but it makes it known when someone is close to crossing them. Then, if crossed, she enforces and strenghtens them. The first red line was South Ossetia. That’s when the west should have heard the shot at least. Then came Syria (the road to Teheran and thereafter to Peking and Moscow). The next obvious one is now the Ukraine. At least two of these incidents made Russia come out much stronger. In Georgia, the result was a recognised independence of South Ossetia and Abkhasia and thus fortified forward bases. In the Ukraine, the result thus far is a ‘fixed’ Crimea, now Russian again, as a sea based fortress, also a forward power projection and defense of Russia, now without the constant struggle to keep the status quo with ever changing ‘goverments’ in Kiev and held back by contracts about ship numbers and such as well as the inability to use the rest of Crimea for Russian purposes. This all accompanied by bringing ‘in-line’ even a huge number of Russians who were not so sure about Russias external policies.
So, two stupid moves by the west got answered by Russia in a swift and decisive way, with an outcome even better for Russia than before the west-initiated blunder. With the third move (Syria) still in limbo.
Why is this all happening now, and why so decisive? Well, at the core of every motivation and change of substance lies one thing: The economy. The west tries to delay the inevitable, the economic decline of the west in line with the inevitable toppling of the debt tower. Russia on the other hand, had her low point (and thus turning point) at the end of the last century. So, it’s going up, as is China.
Thank you also for the very good summary of the “AngloZionist Empire”. Although i don’t see a shadow government pulling all the strings in a orderly planned fashion, there must be some very powerful forces at work. That’s why the real agenda of the Empire does not seem to change when administrations in these countries change. Maybe that’s a weak point in countries who do not have powerful structures behind the governments. There, all what’s needed is to exchange the current administrations.
Even though you try to do analysis of events and not to use your crystal ball too much, what is your opinion right now which way the Ukrainian issue is headed now?
Meine 3 Pfennig.
-yt
Hi Saker
Your site has quickly become one of the top news sources in the world. Well done and many thanks.
I am quite interested in learning more about the Russian Orthodox faith and how it differs from the Western Christian faith.
You are the second educated person I have come across to be Eastern Orthodox, and so I am quite intrigued to learn more.
Thanks in advance, and keep up the great work.
Curu
A very fine and optimistic summation. I’m a born pessimist, although I see it as realism. The only hope for a peaceful transition to a just world is the sudden collapse of the Empire of Exceptionalism, leaving it without a chance to follow the ‘Samson Option’ of destroying everything in a fit of rage at no longer ‘calling the shots’. How to achieve that is the question, and I favour rapid undermining of the US dollar as the least worst scenario.
The great problem is that the leaders of the West have always been psychopaths, so their reaction is bound to be ultra-violent. Running a global Empire of exceptional savagery, presiding over brutal repression of minorities at home and, latterly, immiserating the fabled ‘middle-class’ in order to enrich a tiny, avaricious, elite, requires that type which lacks human compassion and empathy, worships power and destruction, and has no scruples, ie psychopaths.
I’ve seen a few people speak of this carefully contrived crisis (obvious enough, but the reports from Poland that the Banderists were trained at the behest of the fascist Sikorski fill in a few gaps)as ‘World War Three’ or ‘WW Four’, but in fact, I would say that it is still WW2. The defeat of the Nazis was only the ‘end of the beginning’ as the Nazis had secreted vast amounts of money overseas to finance future operations, and had, from about 1943, made open contact with the West to continue the anti-Communist crusade under US leadership. ‘Communist’ here, of course, means any social movement not dedicated to a neo-feudal social arrangement and total subservience to the West, so has targeted any form of socialism, independent nationalism, even ‘social democracy’, as we learned in Australia when The Empire terminated the Whitlam Government in 1975.
The US and its Western allies including the Vatican aided thousands of fascists to escape, gave them sanctuary in the West, where they kept their fascist ideology alive, influencing local politics on the way (certainly true in Australia, where ‘Captive Nations’ goons were prominent in Liberal party politics, followed by a few South Vietnamese fascists later)and then, after Gorbachev’s surrender, re-introduced them to eastern Europe. In the excellent WSWS, where they have excellent information on the psychotic Rightwing virulence of the German MSM, and the growing resistance of Germans to the war-frenzy (worst amongst the so-called Greens, who, as one wag noted, ‘When they wilt, they turn Brown-(shirts)’)they have just reported that rags in the Springer sewer are demanding the destruction of the Soviet War Memorial in Berlin, as part of a concerted program to rehabilitate the Nazis and blame the Soviet Union (as a proxy for Russia today) as the real aggressor in WW2.
In this milieu, Putin is a miracle. If another evil traitor like the cirrhotic Quisling Yeltsin had succeeded Yeltsin, Russia would probably have been split into 68 fragments (or whatever Brzezinski’s magic number is) by now, and the Western grip on the planet have been unbreakable. I still don’t fancy our chances, but, since Putin ‘woke up’ after Libya, at least they are no longer zero.
I agree that the Libya abomination was likely the straw that broke the camel’s back. Undoubtedly, there had been assurances given to Russia (and China, since they lost a bundle over that fiasco) on how the US (but especially France and the UK) would not break the agreement on the no fly zone. But the camel was in pretty poor shape when you consider the perfidy of the west over Afghanistan, Iraq, Yugoslavia, etc. So I find it a bit implausible that Putin was “shocked” (I’m shocked, shocked to find gambling going on here) when the inevitable occurred. But the Syria situation, I think, reminded Putin more closely of his situation in Chechnya……… and it didn’t hurt that they had a naval base in Tartus. Here is a link to an article that I think covers some of the points: http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/139079/fiona-hill/the-real-reason-putin-supports-assad
I had hopes (perhaps I’m delusional) that the realists in the US foreign policy establishment were going to wrap up some of their insanity in this area of the world (the middle east) and pivot to Asia (maybe even pay more attention to local problems) after Putin gave them an out on their Syrian policy. Obviously, I was wrong. So I agree, Putin had no choice when the US pushed the Ukraine situation over the edge. Now the endgame as Putin sees it is the partition of the Ukraine into two countries with the south and east having strong military and economic ties to Russia and the Kiev/Lviv rump being a landlocked radicalized bunch of lunatics being the problem of Germany, Poland and Lithuania. I’m sure Putin would accept slightly less but only if these useful idiots wake up and smell the roses. But if not, Putin will force them to walk to the edge of the abyss and take a long, hard look.
You call what you see happening as re-sovereignization. I look at it from Tainter’s Collapse of Complex Societies. This will be a great FRAGMENTATION. I see the financial, economic and social system facing a collapse. Perhaps the west instinctively senses this as well and that explains (no excuse) why they are driven to such excessive stupidity. The west seems to think that if we just overcome everyone, they won’t notice that they are just a collection of sociopathic megalomaniacs with delusional economic policies that disregard the welfare of the middle and lower classes of society.
I think Putin is aware of the larger picture and is (probably) desperate to preserve his corner of the world and his people as best he can. The US and the west is going to collapse but the question is how to contain the most destructive aspects of this collapse and the resulting repercussions and reverberations. This collapse is rooted in the debt based financial system. Without this system, America’s power is largely an illusion. But Putin is not the only one who is aware of this.
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I think China (as well as Russia and others) is focusing on the monetary aspect. This is why physical gold is being sucked into the countries that instinctively feel that the western financial system has developed malignant financial cancers that threaten its survival. China, having more historic experience with fiat currency, is taking the route of having as much historically accepted savings in the shape of physical gold and silver within their borders and under their citizens control. The west has dreams (delusional, as far as I’m concerned) that they have sufficient control of their citizens (idiots) reality that they can dictate to them that even toilet paper is money and savings. It’s not that fiat is bad, but you do have to trust the entities that issue it to not abuse this “exorbitant privilege”. And let’s face it, most governments wouldn’t recognize a balanced budget if it up and bit them in the ass. There are some but they are very few. Manageable debt…….. LOL, how do you even measure it when your yardstick is continuously in a state of degradation? But, I don’t think any country (this means politicians and their current economic sycophants) wants a gold standard. It’s hard for a politician to cover his promises in hard currency. And Triffin’s dilemma gives evidence of the dangers of being the reserve currency, which I’m sure the Chinese are more than aware.
Putin is not driving this, he is reacting to this historical long societal wave (five to eight hundred years in length, as I see it).
Nora, the image of a tank stopped in its tracks by a lone protestor is reminiscent of the famous picture of a lone nut, probably drunk, holding up a column of tanks in Beijing. The tank moved back and forth to try and evade the idiot, until he was hustled away by others. In the Western MSM sewer this was, naturally, transmuted into a story of ChiComm evil, which was echoed at the time by the Australian Prime Minister, Bob Hawke, a real Zioslave of long standing.
Hawke gave a blubberous speech in the Parliament detailing the ‘events’ in Tian An Men Square, culminating in bursting into tears as he related how the ‘peaceful protestors’ were run over and over in the square until they were turned into pulp. Only one problem, of course, with his tour de farce of public lamentation-it was all total bulldust. Of course Hawke whose egomania is legendary, has never apologised for his performance. After politics his Zio-mates ensured that a few juicy ‘business opportunities’ flowed his way, he dumped his long-suffering wife for a new model, and he visits Israel often. A morality play for our times. And I lost my thread a way back. I forgot to compare the two tank-drivers with those Israelis, who, in a master-class of ‘moral purity’ ran over Rachel Corrie a couple of times, and did the same to a poor Palestinian in a wheelchair in Jenin, I think, but it could have been another of the concentration camps in Occupied Palestine.
Syria, there were many reasons the zionazis stood down. Mainly, their bluff was called.
At the time there was a lot of speculation on how the NWO plugs would be able to enforce a no fly zone over Syria with the paltry amount of military assets they had in the region. A few squadrons of aircraft, half a dozen destroyers and frigates, maybe a couple of subs. Not the sort of force that could defeat the defenses of Syria. In fact, it’s debatable whether such a force would have been able to even made much of a noticeable dent.
There were no U.S./NATO ground forces, outside of those of Turkey, to back up such an assault, either.
The only way the NWO could have then reinforced a no fly zone, or seriously threatened Syria would have been to get both Israel and Turkey involved in first conducting an air war, then invading. Israel certainly did not want receive the response they would get from Syria and Hezbollah. 1000s of Syrian ss missiles raining down on Israel would have caused severe Israeli casualties in Israel (a very powerful no go area for Israeli leaders). Israeli ground military would have seen heavy loses from both Syrian and Hezbollah forces, much worse than their humiliation in Lebanon recently. This would have further seriously undermined Israel’s bluff of “invincibility”.
As for Turkey, their military cant even deal with the Kurdish insurgency as effectively as Syria deals with the zionazi sponsored al ciada terrorists in Syria. The Turk military morale is at an all time low. A Turkish attack would seriously undermine zionazi quisling authority in Turkey and create an atmosphere for Kurdish rebellion like you’ve never seen before.
Both the Turks and the Israelis are happy to run and support terrorists against Syria, but neither is willing to accept the consequences should their terrorist war be felt at home.
The zionazi bluff against Syria was a sign of total desperation, and is actually a precursor of their behaviour in the Ukraine. These are delusional fascists who are lost their ability to totally dominate world affairs and are now resorting to bluffing. Most of their “victories” recently are due to bluffing and threats against civilians and being essentially unopposed by a viable counter. The Libya “trick” failed against Syria.
Zionazi-nazistan are now also very much a “divided house”, despite the proclamations of the political quislings and the unified propaganda from the Jewish owned/run western media. A substantial portion of the western establishment (perhaps the most influential) could not accept the sort of sacrifice Israel would have to endure should the bluff had been followed through.
More sensible minds in the western plutocracy, along with those afraid of Israelis getting hurt, reconised that their bluff was being called, and that the “crazies” needed to be reigned in. Hence the U.K. Parliament backbenchers and the reticence in the U.S. Congress, along with the Obama regime’s blinking in asking them.
The Syrians and Russians recognized all of this and realised the best way to avert bloodshed would not be in openly calling the NWO’s bluff, which ran the risk of forcing the zionazis to attack due recklessness, something their adolescent minds are prone to do, but give them an out. Had the U.S regime not famously said what they did about Syria’s CW, something else would probably have been found to give the zionazis their needed retreat corridor.
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Thank you for serving as a sponge for Western treasonous traitors. Your site is being offered as a link far and wide by all those, including many dissenters in the West, as proof of their hatred of all things “American.” We now know who they are, and when the time comes, hopefully their idol, Vladimir Damien Putin, will welcome them with open Gulags (versus arms). In that sense, you have provided an invaluable service. As for the meat of your content, pure ФСБ propaganda.
I’m prepared to call your bluff and Putin’s bluff, Saker. I’m ready to die. Are you and Putin? I don’t think so. You’re survivors, and survivors don’t commit suicide. You’re bluffing bullshitters, and if anyone in a position of a power had any balls, they’d have called you and Putin on your bullshit nuclear trump card already. You’ll never use it. Never. Want to bet?
I doubt any collapse of the Western world order will benefit non-oligarchs and if it is at all like the USSR the fire sale on public assets will make the looting to date pretty small. In fact I remain unconvinced the West is losing. Not winning it is true, but if the goal is simply to increase chaos and see what can be stolen then all is well. For example, if you cannot own all of the Ukraine then let it fragment and get what you can right now-like leases for franking and selling good farm land to the Western money men.
John M, you are assuming that anyone in any kind of leadership position in the US a) has any grasp of history; b) is the least bit analytical, whether by tendency or training; and c) has any interest whatever in the well-being of any group larger than their immediate cohort.
Mulga, the Tiannamen photo-op was so clearly staged; this woman was the real thing with her anguish and rage. And I figured it’d be hard to find now, but not nigh-unto-impossible. It’s etched into my heart though; I’ll never forget it. And as hideous as Rachel’s death was, and a few other Europeans they’ve treated similarly, remember, it’s everyday life for Palestinians.
“What is happening today before our eyes is the end of one international system and the birth of a qualitatively different one [international system].”
This is critical.
A new international system is being birthed — or more precisely, has already been born. International leaders representing countless factions are all vying for a stake in or control over the Superstructure of Globalization.
I think most of the readers of this blog understand that Putin is working hard to carve out Russia’s sphere of control/influence in the new multipolar world system. If you accept that Putin’s prefered result is the dismantling of the US petrodollar system — and also believe he is in a strong position to make this happen with support from Xi Xinping in China and other BRICS, then you have to consider what would be the likely response of his Anglo-American opponents.
Understand who they are — the Anglo-American Gangster class — already working in a centuries long tradition of colonial rape, pillage, drug dealling and war. These are the same shameless people who stole 40% of all American total wealth during the 2007/8 financial collapse in order to cover losses from their bad investments. This was only after they had already sold off much of America’s industrial production and other hard assets to China and others in the decades before. The are presently selling US controlled assets to the Chinese at a torrid pace in order to support the on paper values of their assets and economy.
If you were such a person (greedy, snivelling, psychopathic) and sensed the imminent collapse of the entire system that is the basis for your power, what would you be willing to offer to China, the only nation capable of bailing you out?
The article below is a must read:
China to Purchase the Federal Reserve
http://philosophyofmetrics.com/2014/01/16/china-to-purchase-the-federal-reserve/#more-38
There is good reason to believe that the Anglo-American gangsters have countered Putin’s moves against the petrodollar by offering China a share of control in the US Federal Reserve. In other words, instead of collapsing the global financial system, the Chinese have been offered a tantalizing alternative — ownership of a big chunk perhaps including a controlling stake in the privately controlled Federal Reserve.
Those of you who think that Putin has lost something in Ukraine misunderstand the strength of his position. He is offering China access to Russia’s energy resources. Against that, the Anglo-Americans are dangling the whole world — plus a guarantee of stability.
Think of the kind words that Putin just spoke towards the Saudi King. The Russian leader is attempting to rally and lead the world’s producers — of energy, food, industrial goods and so on. Against him are all the various interests who secure their power by maintaing control of the financial, economic and communications infastructure of globalization. This is a classic battle between sedentary producers representing the world’s local people — disempowered by the new globalist system — pitted against the many people (percentage taking middleman and other nomads) who have benefited from globalization, especially in finance, military-security and the media (mind control) matrix.
To most people, China is opaque. All of us have been very slow and will continue to be slow in adjusting to the new reality already before us. We must understand that China is in the drivers seat.
Putin has, by his careful and methodical responses to the Anglo-American aggressiveness, tremendously strengthened the hand of China is future negotiations for control of this new international system. He needs to hope that Xi Xinping and China will reward him by giving him what he need most to continue to develop the Russian economy — access to Chinese markets and capital to develop Russian energy and other resources.
Nora……
Making assumptions that the current US leadership just barely finished kindergarten is naive.
Because if you are right in your assesment of the entire US leadership and learning capability, a full scale complete nuclear war where every nuclear, chemical and biological weapon WILL be used.
In that case let’s all just crack open a fine bottle of Scotch, put our heads between our legs and kiss our ass goodbye.
Hope your ass looks better than mine. :)
This is my first time commenting here. I only discovered this blog fairly recently (after the Ukraine crisis began) and am sorry I didn’t find such a wonderful resource sooner.
I agree with Saker that the West miscalculated badly in Ukraine and there is no chance in hell they will succeed there. I also agree that after the West revealed such frothing at the mouth enmity towards Russia, relations between the two sides can never return to the status quo ante. The pro Western lot inside Russia (the honest well meaning ones not the treacherous fifth column types) must be shocked and I imagine embarrassed and those like Mr. Putin who were always urging vigilance and warning of Western mal intentions have more credibility now that they have been proven to be right.
I am writing to request Saker to elaborate on his thoughts on Russia’s relations with its East Asian neighbors. I agree Europe is a hopeless case and I was pretty disgusted at how all political actors, from the left or the right have become so reflexively anti Russian and servile to the Americans. Only Mr. Schroeder has any sanity left in him it seems.
Regarding China, I will have to disagree with the author’s claim that China is as interested in overturning the international system as Russia is. I think the Chinese benefit from the trading relationship they have with the US and don’t want anything to disrupt that relationship. Their primary focus is in growing their economy and preserving domestic tranquility and as such I believe they are not eager for a confrontation. They would undoubtedly benefit from this Russian US confrontation but I believe they would do their best in seeking advantages from both sides and not siding too strongly with either one. Ambassador Bhadrakumar from India who is also a contributor to Asia Times opined on this matter on his blog. http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2014/04/16/china-calibrates-distance-from-russia/ Let us wait till President Putin’s visit to China to see if any major energy deals is actually signed between the two.
I also think Saker is mistaken in placing Japan in the same category as South Korea in its servility to the US. Now I am not saying the Japanese will choose the Russians over the Americans but I do believe the Japanese are very desirous of better relations with Russia and under right circumstances choose to be neutral. Russia figures very prominently in their thinking about energy security, potential conflict with China, managing North Korea. Russia should explore this potentially very lucrative market. Of course some thorny territorial disputes remain the biggest barrier for expansion of ties. But I think a settlement or at least accommodation can be reached along the lines initially proposed by the Soviet Union.
http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_Joint_Declaration_of_1956
Serendipity said…[18 April, 2014 19:29] — “…to avoid a highly embarrassing military fiasco the US had to find a way to cancel …”.
1. Spot on.
2. And the Chinese were on site with their listening gear to monitor and record the electronic communications systems involved.
3. Saker, it would be nice to have a voting feature (up/down) for some of these comments. Blogger is primitive but I’m sure there must be widgets that can do it.
4. And, yes, you probably should put a footer here saying comments do not represent ‘endorsement’ etc.
Anonymous said…18 April, 2014 19:55
“After Russia finishes building the South Stream pipeline”
I’m fairly certain I saw something in Russian media a couple of months ago about South Stream preparations being put on hold. With the zionazis now openly going full bore attacking Russia, it would make sense for Russia to save the billions for the cost of the project, and put that effort in building projects less at the whim of zionazi/fascist corporate bum bandits.
вот так
Where-wolf….
Why in the world would the Chinese want to purchase the Federal Reserve…….. The federal reserve is insolvent, their books are cooked, their patron insane, etc. etc. Furthermore China has enough of the patrons debt already so…… oh, BTW, how would this be enforceable against a bunch of certifiable corrupt lawyers (psychopaths)?
As for the financial system being birthed……. I have serious doubts ANYONE can reasonably prognosticate to its features, least of all with the idiots who got us here in the first place.
I would say that the current system is in a state of crisis, likely destroying itself and that people will do as has been through the centuries…. scale back to what has worked in the past. Barter systems (such as what Russia is doing with Iran and the current bilateral deals China is negotiating with a number of countries) will be predominant but hard assets (gold, silver, etc.) will bridge the current account balance problems.
Dear All,
Wish you very happy Easter holidays.
One thing I do have concern about in all these.
The US have a system thereby the elite minority has a continuity of it’s objectives and policy making.
This system helps to continue the policy objectives of the US elite.
Now Russia lacks a similar kind of systemic continuity.
Think about this if tomorrow CIA is able to assassinate or topple Putin / Chinese Communist Party
who would continue the goals that Saker mentions here.
All persons have a physical life time.
Putin and Lavrov are in their mid 60-s so who will come after them that will continue these noble policy objectives ?
That is a question that I ask to all of you.
Take care
Debanjan
Dear All,
Wish you very happy Easter holidays.
One thing I do have concern about in all these.
The US have a system thereby the elite minority has a continuity of it’s objectives and policy making.
This system helps to continue the policy objectives of the US elite.
Now Russia lacks a similar kind of systemic continuity.
Think about this if tomorrow CIA is able to assassinate or topple Putin / Chinese Communist Party
who would continue the goals that Saker mentions here.
All persons have a physical life time.
Putin and Lavrov are in their mid 60-s so who will come after them that will continue these noble policy objectives ?
That is a question that I ask to all of you.
Take care
Debanjan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBKN7_vx2xo#t=59
Enjoykin — Nyash Myash
Cole N. Holefield:
“Thank you for serving as a sponge for Western treasonous traitors. Your site is being offered as a link far and wide by all those, including many dissenters in the West, as proof of their hatred of all things “American.” We now know who they are, and when the time comes, hopefully their idol, Vladimir Damien Putin, will welcome them with open Gulags (versus arms). In that sense, you have provided an invaluable service. As for the meat of your content, pure ФСБ propaganda.”
Cliff Kincaid and Accuracy in Media, is that you? Shouldn’t you all be thanking Snowden and Putin for giving a bunch of fat old Cold War has-beens a new burst of funding from the banksters and spooks who throw some cookie crumbs your way via the Smith Richardson and Scaife Foundations?
Looks like we have our first identifiable paid fedtroll dropping in on the Saker. I’m surprised it took them this long. Probably some roidhead cop who pushes Police State propaganda as his night job, or maybe a bored junior enlisted dude on a shift at one of the threat fusion centers or at the Pentagon…
If it was my posting links to Kincaid’s hysterical propaganda that brought this troll here, I apologize. But as I’ve said to many people anonymously on the web over the last two years, the Globalists/NWO plan appears to be to try and connect America’s gun owning ‘bitter clingers’ to ‘Pootie Poo/Vlad the Bad’s Evil Empire’ anyway they can. Useful idiots like Jeff Nyquist is at the center of this scam, it wouldn’t surprise me if in a year’s time Nyquist will be saying the KGB has been covertly supporting the Bundys and Tula works ammo being sold at Wal Mart is proof of a vast Kremlin plot to motivate America’s ‘neoconfederate right wing extremists’ to ‘overthrow the federal government’. The Twitter feed @StopAgitprop and before that @ReginaldQuill was the beta testing for these insane propaganda points (I’m guessing put out by the DHS circles rather than the Pentagon or NSA’s own domestic propaganda ops run out of the U.S. Naval War College, Daily Beast and Business Insider).
In fact the only thing most commenters here can agree on is that Russia is mostly handling its foreign policy smartly while the U.S’s is run by transnationalists, psychopaths, fools or fascists. That doesn’t make us ‘traitors’ that makes us a ‘reality based community’. Even the use of the term ‘Zionists’ all the time by certain commenters at least elicits some dissent, I get tired of it myself as I see the Israelis as more of the senior henchmen than the string pullers of some global kosher cabal. Remember the Rothschilds didn’t give a damn about one of their relatives by that name who perished in one of Hitler’s camps. As Solzhenitsyn said the line between good and evil isn’t about ethnicity or national borders it’s about the human soul.
@Anonymous:If it was my posting links to Kincaid’s hysterical propaganda that brought this troll here, I apologize
No problem at all, the number of trolls around here has been going up in proportion to the increase in readers (over 20’000 day now). I think that I will have to come up with a new moderation policy, I will deal with that next week.
As Solzhenitsyn said the line between good and evil isn’t about ethnicity or national borders it’s about the human soul.
Absolutely, that is also my deepest belief.
Cheers,
The Saker
Last point for Saker readers (and perhaps this thread will be up all Pascha weekend): with the Bundy/BLM confrontation we are seeing US elites like Senate Majority Leader crook Harry Reid turn towards more shrill ‘domestic terrorists’ rhetoric against their bitter enemies, the gun toting white lower middle class (nobody who’s truly dirt poor unless they have their own land in which case they wouldn’t be able to afford the property taxes can truly arm up or ‘prep’ adequately for SHTF). Again I need to emphasize this even more THE BAD PEOPLE IN THE USSA ARE GOING TO TRY AND ACCUSE THE PATRIOT MOVEMENT OF BEING TIED TO RUSSIA OR BEING COVERTLY INFLUENCED BY ‘KGB’! J.R. Nyquist, Cliff Kincaid and probably soon SPLC and Media Matters are going to go for this. All five are already extrapolating from crazy old Pat Buchanan’s trolling the Establishment with ‘is God on Putin’s side?’ to some vast paleoconservative/libertarian well of sympathy for ‘the KGB’. In reality the Paleoconservative/libertarian Right isn’t ROOTING FOR Putin they are simply pointing to him as proof that U.S. foreign and monetary policies have gone mad and time is running out…in other words, if this is Cold War 2.0 U.S. victory is by no means guaranteed this time unlike the last time around…
I really don’t understand the meaning of the term “AngloZionist Alliance” in the sense that it’s being used. A Zionist, as I understand it, is someone who supports the State of Israel and wants it to be a Jewish homeland. If I were a Palestinian, I would say there is an AngloZionist Alliance to uproot me from my homeland and keep me impoverished. And I also understand that Israel has strong ties to the U.S. and supports pretty much all of its policies, as does the rest of Europe. Is the word “Zionist” a synonym for “Israel”? Is there someting uniquely sinister about Israel such that the term “Zionist” is used so often in a derisive fashion? Are you implying there is something uniquely sinister about people of Jewish extraction, something in their blood or psyche or genetic code?
As I see things, countries and peoples compete with one another constantly, forming alliances when it suits their needs and breaking them when it doesn’t. I see religion as a tool used by leaders to marshall their personal popularity and power. I don’t know why it is that so many oligarchs, in Russia, Ukraine and the world over, happen to have Jewish heritages. I’m pretty sure these oligarchs act according to what they perceive to be in their best interests, personally, not in the best interests of Israel, U.S., Russia or anywhere else. I think that’s how one gets to be an oligarch- to care, ferociously, about self-interest and nothing else.
Saker, I’ve often marveled at the brilliant analysis you provide and I look forward every day to reading what you have to say. I would very much like to know your answers to my questions. Since I’ve only recently found your site, perhaps you’ve already addressed these issues.
JohnM said…
Where-Wolf
Why in the world would the Chinese want to purchase the Federal Reserve[?]
Above all, the Chinese leadership seeks stability. They are also doing very well under the current system. Why would they risk everything for a bet on a new system? The Chinese are pragmatic and patient. They want to be collectors of rent. They don’t mind if the US is willing to be global enforcer so long as their profits are guaranteed.
The Federal Reserve is the ultimate system for accomplishing this goal and it’s already in place. It is the basis for American power since it entitles the one who prints money to unlimited spending. All the costs of that unlimited spending are then down loaded onto everyone else, ie. it’s taken out of the value of the money everyone must use to do business on a global scale.
I agree with you that the gangsters/lawyers/parasites are playing a game with China. They are dangling a very big carrot in front of China’s nose which they might pull away at any moment. I’m sure the Chinese are aware of Western business practices (going back to the Opium Wars) and will always be wary.
I think those who are predicitng the imminent demise of the US petro dollar underestimate the value it has to the world’s richest people. These people care about themselves and their own personal wealth. They are loyal to no country and will gladly pick up and leave the US for Honk Kong, Singapore or Switzerland if they sense a threat to their power.
@Anonymous:Are you implying there is something uniquely sinister about people of Jewish extraction, something in their blood or psyche or genetic code?
How did you ever get that impression? I mean – just got through the blog archives and see for yourself, not only have I never said or even implied such a thing, I have vehemently denied it to the point that some brain dead Nazis accused me of being a Jew. This is a long topic and I don’t have time to repeat what I have said many times.
Why don’t you go through the blog over the week end and if you still have doubts, let us know on Monday ok?
Kind regards,
The Saker
Anonymous said…
I really don’t understand the meaning of the term “AngloZionist Alliance” in the sense that it’s being used.
The so-called AngloZionists are the top 1/10th of One Percenters. They are by no means all Zionists, Anglo Saxons or Jews but they are working in the centuries long tradition of colonial gangster capitalism.
Most of these people do not give a damn about Israel, Jews, the UK and so on. They care about money and power. Zionism is their favoured marketing gimmick — it helps them to rally support from the diaspora and its many allies.
Voltaire said that if you want to know who’s really in charge you have to ask yourself who are you forbidden from criticizing. In the modern world you can criticize everyone and everything except the joos.
Calling yourself a Zionist instantly gives you powerful friends wherever you go. This is priceless to the biggest crimminals because it acts as a nearly inpenetrable shield. By simply calling someone anti-semitic you can immediately turn all ‘respectable people’ against you.
Read this article to get a sense of what I’m talking about:
Venture Capitalist Compares ‘Progressive War On 1 Percent’ To Nazi Anti-Semitism
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/25/taxes-rich-holocaust_n_4665676.html
Nice quote from another blog. I suspect the current ‘drama’ can also be measured in stages via this scale.
Mahatma Gandhi:
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
@I don’t know why it is that so many oligarchs, in Russia, Ukraine and the world over, happen to have Jewish heritages.
Oh, sancta simplicitas!
Maybe because G-d promised the Jews believe that the Messianic Kingdom would come when they would possess all the riches in the world?
The famous Rambam (Rabbi Mosheh ben Maimon)better known as Maimonides strived to refute the popular conceptions among the Jews regarding the Messianic Kingdom.
In his Introduction to Mishnah Tractate Sanhedrin, chapter 10 (Perek Helek),Maimonides begins to explain all of the different errors that people make concerning the messianic era, errors based on literal interpretations of biblical and rabbinic texts. One class of people holds that “the hoped-for good will be the Garden of Eden, a place where people eat and drink without toil or faintness.” They imagine “houses of costly stones … couches of silk and rivers flowing with wine and perfumed oil.” Another class “firmly believes and imagines that the hoped-for good will be the days of the Messiah.” They think that when that time comes, all men will be kings forever. Their bodily frames will be mighty and they will inhabit the whole earth unto eternity. According to their imagination, that Messiah will live as long as the Creator, and at that epoch the earth will bring forth garments ready woven and bread ready baked, and many other impossible things like these. “A fourth class consists of those who believe that the good which we shall reap from obedience to the law will consist in the repose of the body and attainment in the world of all worldly wishes, as for example, the fertility of lands, abundant wealth, abundance of children, long life, bodily health and security, enjoying the sway of a king, and prevailing over the oppressor.”
@A Zionist, as I understand it, is someone who supports the State of Israel and wants it to be a Jewish homeland
Well, it is a bit more than that:
“The Zion tradition or Zion theology is a development in redemptive-history that casts the hope of God’s blessing upon the place of Mt. Zion. This theology of expectation is even carried into the New Testament and is depicted in the present reign of believers in the heavenlies (Heb 12) as well as the hope of a new heaven and earth (Rev 20-22). Our hopes are set on Mt. Zion, where we will worship our Lord face to face (in the reconstructed temple, that’s it). But these hopes rest on an historical development and progressive revelation of God’s Spirit to his people”.
This theology was embraced by the Anglos and Americans who swallowed it line, hook and sinker to the point that one barely can make a difference between Jewish Zionists and “Christian” Zionists, but it has nothing to do with Christianity. There won’t be any Third Temple. Or if it be rebuilt it will have the same fate as the temple that the Jews tried to rebuilt under the Emperor Julian the Apostate.
WizOz
@Sanctions:
19 April 2014, 05:33
Ukraine sanctions aside, US carmakers eye Russia market to save GM
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_04_19/Ukraine-sanctions-aside-US-carmakers-eye-Russia-market-to-save-GM-6014/
Nevermind the Ukraine crisis and Washington’s sanctions against Moscow: US automakers say the Russian market is their next big frontier. Russia is simply too large and too important for carmakers to ignore, experts said this week. “The Russian market is going to be larger than Germany,” said John Branch, a professor at the University of Michigan Ross School of Business….
Daniel Russell, a former American diplomat who serves as president of the US-Russia Business council, said even with the current crisis over the Ukraine, Russia is simply too important a country for US businesses to ignore.
And it is doubtful other countries are willing to forgo business with Russia.
The US pressure for sanctions on Moscow over Crimea’s decision to join Russia has run into that face. With much close business and financial ties with Russia, Western European countries have been more reticent to ratchet up sanctions, that the US is advocating for.
The Japanese government issued a statement condemning Russian’s stance on Crimea. But it then turned around and hosted some 200 Russian business executives the very same day.
“Sanctions don’t work,” Russell concluded.
Nuff said,
Cheers,
WizOz
The person who pointed out the fact that greed and self interest knows no nationality when it comes to power and money has the rest of you geniuses on this forum beat by a long mile. I won’t pretend to be as well read in economics and history/ pipeline politics as the more authoritative voices on here seem to claim, but I have enough understanding and a sense of self preservation to see that Putin is as guilty as any American gangster of the very crimes he’s supposedly fighting so bravely to insulate the Slavic world from. The amount of wealth he has personally amassed is sufficient proof to me that he isn’t against theft and murder- he merely objects to being victimized by a bigger gangster via the same tactics. All this pontificating about Syria and the kill radius of s300 missiles in relation to American warships is easily proven false when one considers the credibility of the authors. For instance, how is the viability of this threat to America’s warships determined without first knowing the exact location of these warships. Are we to assume that someone on this site has intimate knowledge of the pentagons war plans and location of assets during the period in question? If so, how can the America haters on here take an admitted pentagon employee’s word in good faith- or is it enough to just hate the USA. Besides, didn’t Israel bomb Syrian territory at will consistently without so much as a threat offered in return? Why would the American war lords fear to tread where their junior partners tread with insolence? America has only lost its war on terrorism campaigns if you are naive enough to accept that their objective was anything beyond chaos and pillage of their targeted victims. The oligarchs of the kremlin are greedy, not suicidal. They love their comforts and will be happy to preserve their survival at the expense of every sucker on here. Ask Syria and Libya how well Putins protection racket survives American gangsterism. When the terror is unleashed on the oligarchs mainland, there will be no nuclear war- they will just sellout and leave the suckers/ rabid patriots holding the bag.
Re-sovewattafuck? Signing this agreement was a tactical idiocy on the Russian side. Same as the “no fly” zone for Libya. I really can’t understand why the Russians want to compromise with those people (and their puppets) who never compromise. Furthermore the Russians has now made a precedent by (almost) directly meeting with the representatives of the puppet regime, thus legitimizing it. Congratulations.
Actually, I don’t think I was the only one who expected immediate Russian military action following the first offensive move of the “Ukrainian army” against the Eastern people. That would’ve been a justifiable step, a real red line crossed. Don’t worry, the puppets (now almost literally controlled by the CIA) will not stop, regardless of Geneva or whatever.