Putin’s recent speech to the Federal Assembly contained two part: a foreign policy part which was nothing short of historical, and an internal economics part which was very disappointing to say the least. In fact, I would say that it was outright frightening. I won’t post the full text here, but you can consult if for yourself by clicking here. But here is my summary of Putin’s message:
We will make every effort to aid the Russian business community, we will also make every effort to return much of the Russian money hidden abroad in offshore accounts, and we will create stability and predictability. All this is fine and dandy, except for what was not said.
- Putin did not denounce the work of the Russian Central Bank or its Chairwoman.
- Putin did not promise to sell US bonds and bring Russian money back home.
- Putin did not sack a single Russian official for incompetence or, even less so, sabotage
- Putin did not announce a major change in the status of the Ruble, no “golden Ruble” for example.
- Putin did not reject the western economic model.
- Putin announce no reform or taking over by the state of the Russian Central Bank.
- Most importantly, Putin did not announce any major change in economic policy
I have no way of knowing whether Putin sincerely believe in the western economic dogmas, of whether he has no other option than to pretend that he does, but the outcome is the same: Putin rejects the western political model while apparently still fully endorsing its economic model.
I have just listening to an interview of Mikhail Khazin and Evegnii Feodorov on the Russian New Service Radio and both of them are now openly sounding the alarm. Khazin is demanding that the Director of the Russian Central Bank be fired and arrested, while Feodorov wants the Central Bank to be completely shut down. I agree with both.
The Russian economy in general and the Ruble especially are both under direct attack, not only by official sanctions, but also by speculative operations. The price of oil is collapsing probably under a combination of objective reasons (the world recession) and deliberate US operations, yet Putin is not changing economic course in a fundamental way and he is even complimenting the Central Bank for its activities. Does that not remind you of something?
Personally, this reminds me of what happened during the last months of Anatolii Serdiukov when the Russian military was hit by one scandal after another, yet Putin continued to praise Serduikov and his work. Eventually, of course, Serdiukov was sacked and replaced by the truly outstanding Shoigu, but it took a lot of time and efforts to finally get him sacked (and even today Serdiukov has still not been sentenced by any court for his numerous criminal activities).
Does that mean that Putin is hesitant, weak or confused?
I don’t think so. I think that this shows that one of the most difficult and dangerous tasks for Putin is to get rid of the saboteurs in the top echelons of power. The same Mikhail Khazin has recently declared that only now did the “Eurasian Sovereignist” group’s power roughly match the one of the pro-US “Atlantic Integrationists” (though he did not quite use these expressions which are mine).
Hopefully Putin is setting up a Serdiukov-like sacking of Nabiulina, but this is not sure at all. The pressure is mounting for him to take dramatic action and to finally begin to de-couple the Russian economy from the western economic orthodoxy known as the Washington Concensus, but there is also a lot of resistance.
This is right now by far the biggest threat to Russia and Putin: the 5th column of saboteurs in the top echelons of power, especially the government. As long as these people will remain in power Russia will continue to remain weak and fragile and very susceptible to western economic warfare.
The Saker
The budget should be balanced, the treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt, the mob should be forced to work and not depend on government for subsistence, and prudence and frugality should be put into practice.
Cicero, 58 B.C.
We are living in some historic times. No country in the world has a gold backed currency. On Russia-Insider there is an opinion piece entitled
“Russia Could Introduce a Gold Ruble Tomorrow”. It addresses the manifold benefits Russia would enjoy in having a gold backed ruble and also talks about the issuance of gold backed bonds.
http://russia-insider.com/en/business/2014/12/07/07-49-06pm/how_gold_rouble_would_work?page=0%2C2
This article contains a link to a previous RI article on the same subject.
“Why Russia Should Put the Ruble on the Gold Standard”
The subtitle of the article gives a clue as to possibly why it has not been done:
“Doing so would stabilize the Ruble, benefit the Russian economy and threaten the US Dollar’s position as the world’s reserve currency”.
The problem may be in threatening the dollar. Putin may not believe the time is right for such a drastic action. If this is the case, this article also talks about the benefits of gold backed bonds. Rather than total inaction, or a wrong action, one could reasonably suggest consideration be given to such gold backed bonds by RF. Here is information on such bonds from the article.
” the government can do easily by buying and selling ruble interest-bearing bonds to Russian banks. It should also make an unlimited amount of the gold-ruble bonds available to ordinary people.”
From: http://russia-insider.com/en/business_opinion/2014/11/24/03-09-27am/why_russia_should_put_ruble_gold_standard?page=0%2C0
It appears Putin is initially doing as Cicero instructed, a very positive first step. The gold backed bonds could be another meaningful move forward till it is time for a new world class Russian gold standard.
@ anon Mongoose
“Year 2015 setting up. So let’s not agonize over the Rouble. It is not the only currency taking the lower road against the USD.”
While it is true that the USD has basically appreciated not only against all other currencies, but massively against commodities as well (significantly against gold as well in the last year and a half) for reasons I won’t go into at this point. While it is also true that a certain devaluation of the ruble is to be expected with the fall in the price of commodities (especially oil) and the rising dollar. While it is also true that a degree of devaluation is also rather positive for the Russian economy at this juncture (raises the ruble value of exported oil and gas) the reason we are becoming worried, is the sheer size of the ruble collapse (some 40% this year) plus the loss of around $100bln in Russian currency reserves in “defending” it. Just imagine how useful those $100bln would be for the Russian Armed forces and for Russian businesses and general welfare. This is only one of several examples of how liberal currency policy has been harming Russia for decades now.
Stavros H
To 01:22
Regarding mail. I do not know what mail is like in Russia, but I live in Canada, and I send register mail 4 weeks ago and my item still has not arrived at its designation.
Sigh.
Saker, I’m glad you are wanting action. I agree. I hope Putin has this up his sleeve and has the right guys on his side.
The Euro is not backed by or tied to gold, yet gold is the reserve asset of the ECB. The ECB and Euro are a prototype system designed to replace the $IMFS which is currently failing. This system allows currency blocks freedom to emit sufficient local fiat currency and credit to serve for transaction and accounting money.
Russia sells oil and gas to Europe for Euro, which are used by Russians to buy BMW cars. If there is an international account balance between Russia and Germany, this will be settled with gold. No need for a gold rouble. This would restrict the value of gold as the reserve asset and restrict the rouble as money of transaction and account.
There is much misunderstanding of gold and its emerging role in the world system. Gold waiting to lubricate and settle world trade accounts after the demise of the $IMFS (USD IMF Monetary System. There will be no gold rouble, but gold can be bought with roubles.
Remember…gold price is elastic. It can rise as much as necessary to balance the books, while fiat currency emission can be controlled by government…checked only in international trade by the free convertibility of fiat to gold and gold to fiat.
The Chinese Central Bank has trillions of USD as the reserve asset backing the printing of trillions of yuan. Stavaros H. doesn’t understand how the Chinese workers have labored for very little to furnish the USA with goods for paper promises to pay. The Chinese oligarchs are compradors for the $IMFS. BIS is facilitating access to large gold at a low price to compensate China for the loss of value when the USD is devalued. When the USD on the books of the Central Bank of China moves toward zero, gold will move in the opposite direction providing the compensation for supporting the USD system for a few more decades so world trade could continue and Americans could afford bread and circus. The BIS is facilitating the movement of large gold to the right places to prepare for a world without the USD as reserve asset, the unit of account and the unit of transaction for world trade. Why would Vladimir Putin interfere with an inevitable event, except to do everything necessary to protect Russia from destruction by WAR or the USD? Russia’s Central Bank is preparing for the new world system on the Euro template. If you don’t like the current world monetary system you probably won’t like a world without USD. Americans especially will have a rapid decrease in free stuff, as they have to earn foreign currencies to pay for imports.
After the collapse of the USD system there will never again be a fiat currency used as a reserve asset by the Central Banks. Who will trust paper to preserve the savings of nation, not to mention us as individuals?
BTW said, “Now no one has expressed this view on this blog, but the way I see it Russia has no choice but to close itself economically to the west – completely and in almost one swoop. And that would require a socialist – or at least a socialistic economy – for the foreseeable future”
To whom will Russia sell oil and gas? Vladmir Putin clearly states Russia will not go back to the closed world of the USSR. That system failed. Russia is preparing a multi-polar Eurasian future for Russians. They will do honest trade with the world. The predatory USD Empire is collapsing. Russia will be fine if they don’t panic into isolation or retaliation for the pricks of a dying empire. Patience!
I think saker is giving too much credit to Mikhail Khazin and Evegnii Feodorov in being the “ultimate source” of information about the inside of Russia. It was Evegnii who was claiming there was going to be a coup months ago in RUssia and that Putin will be ousted as a result.. he simply love to fabricate stories to get people attention. he even went as far as to predict US attack with nuclear weapons on Russia.. just ignore evegnii ,he is a liar. and Mikhail Khazin previous interview he claimed the Russian Central bank was in bed with the west and was sabotaging Russia and that “was doing nothing” to seek an alternative to western payment system.. but just today RT revealed Russian banks are ALREADY testing a new payment system.. and Russian CEntral bank.. that is allegedly “in bed with the west” announced an international inter-bank payment system, an alternative to the global SWIFT network. So with friends like this who needs enemies? I think Saker needs to consider his interviewed “Experts” to be completely wrong about Russia central bank ,”conspiring against RUssia” it leader worked for Putin before being in that position. Russia is a true independent nation with a Bank in fully control of Russian Government.
Evgeni and khazin are wrong.
http://rt.com/business/212423-russia-payment-system-test/
You cannot be in “bed with the west financial system” and at the same time create a system to replace western financial hegemony. The only thing left for Russia will be a new Internet.. to become absolutely independent of the west.
Good idea BTW .. But I dont think socialism will help all that much. Maybe because you have not worked in a place where nothing you do matters. The blame or achievement is universal no mater what. So people do the least they are required to do.. Now unfettered capitalism is not the answer.. You can see the effects of that when India which has rampant poverty now has very high percentage of billionaires who bought cheap state assets and leveraged it using the low wages and prices they got.
I am not sure what is the way to go since those with power will game the system. So you will end up with an upper class who has more wealth than the rest no matter what. What could work at least a little bit is state control of a percentage of every company. Say 1/4 of the company will belong to the state no matter what. If the company profits, the state gets part of the profits and lower taxes since companies generally pay very low taxes anyway.. But as we can even see here, companies game the system so the company itself shows no profits, so no dividend payments but they pay investors in other ways like a high share price or pay upper management employees all the profits. The US is a classic example of how to fleece te public every which way.. When people go to retire and think they have millions saved, they will find their shares are worthless. Companies already use shareholders to build up the company then bankrupt it so JPM and the like can buy those companies really cheap and then leverage it again and make a killing.. In essence not taking any risk or making investments but reaping all the rewards.
So have a strong independent judicial system with over sight like the vigilance bureau looking on the government’s share of the companies.. Cant just have a ministry run the companies because then we end up with the usual socialist structure of crony favoritism. But with enough power to block companies from doing harm to customers or the public.. If the company succeeds then so does everyone involved.. Unlike now where only a few do. It would also reduce control of the political process where now companies decide who rules and who are even running the over sight.
re @08 December, 2014 22:44:
… “Historically, the most dangerous enemies of Russia, came from Russia; Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky etc. …
I must beg to disagree about Stalin: Not in that he came from Georgia, not Russia, but rather that the buildup of Russia under his “Socialism in one country” policy enabled Russia to prevail in WW2. One a recent tour I took in Russia, our young women guides, from Moscow, Suzdal, and St. Petersburg, all remarked that while Stalin undoubtedly did many bad things, yet “he freed the Church and won the war.” Although born at least two generations after him, they haven’t forgotten.
Part I
Another excellent podcast. You are pleasant to listen to as well as informative, Saker. Thank you again.
If you’re tired of my obnoxious commentary, Saker, please skip to the bolded text (part II) and read from there. There is some important information there I’d like very much for you to see. I promise you won’t be sorry even if you disagree.
Actually I’m always suprised by how much I agree with you — on everything including the tone you strike when speaking on almost any issue, something which comes across much better listening instead of reading. You speak too many languages to be giftedly subtle in English and it gets you in trouble with your audience mostly on our own account. I recognize how shrill my own written criticisms must sound each time I’ve finished listening to the measured voice in your podcast.
I especially agree with your analysis of how to resist and undermine the Anglo-ZIonists and how you must never allow them to brand you a terrorist. It is important to show contempt for them wherever you go and whenever you can. A well timed comment will cause people to think about blindingly apparent contradictions and if and when they hear a clear and thoughtful anti establishment opinion repeated, they are much more likely to adopt that as a new or at least more valid perspective and perhaps carry it others themselves. Satire and humour are also powerful weapons and I do strive to communicate to every person I meet so as to undermine the unlawful authorities. Most people are suprisingly receptive if correctly approached. People are never as stupid as the media portrays them to be.
I also strongly agree with your comments regarding resistance and focussing our efforts at the local level. Any organization which you attempt to form to challenge the Anglo-Zionists on their level is guaranteed to be infiltrated, co-opted, undermined and eventually destroyed. Only when you are part of a strong local network of people who you trust can you pick an issue and maintain unity against the withering attacks that ensue. There was a plan to build an enourmous quarry not far from Toronto a few years ago, pitting local people against a powerful Boston based hedge fund fully backed by a corrupted Premier and the Ontario government. This group defeated the plan despite incredibly long odds and anyone interested in researching instances of effective Resistance to the blood sucking machinations of Anglo-Zionist financiers should look to their example. They mobilized rural and urban homeowners and brought them together with farmers and others in a politically formidable alliance which no politician could afford to ignore. I was sad to see it dissapear but in hindsight I now see it as a looming threat against similar moves by a future government and the hedge fund which still owns the land. Had the group been institutionalized it would have been co-opted by now.
Part II
Now on to the points of disagreement. I hope you will read this because the next two points are very important.
So Khazin says the Russian Central Bankers are untouchable. For me this provides yet more evidence he is a prostitute for the former colonial administrators and other Yeltsinite traitors who killed millions of people and nearly destroyed Russia. All his apparently supportive comments in favour of Putin, economic nationalism, etc. are a ruse meant to give him a platform which he will ivariably use to insert the interests of these supposedly defeated pro IMF liberal oligarchs. On the one hand they are too dangerous on the other they are irrelevant, he says, depending on his objective on any given day. He is a double agent in the political game, playing exactly the same role as Skull and Bones Democrats like David Gergen or John Kerry. The fact that he would say it is “impossible” to dismantle the Russian Central Bank demonstrates his loyalties lie not with Russia but the very same rapists and gangsters who turned Russia into a colony before they were finally outwitted by Putin. The history of intrigue to which you refer makes that much more important that Khazin be carefully scrutinized. If he strongly recommends you go North then you must go South.
The path to true independence for Russia requires the Russian Central Bank be dismantled. This is absolutely critical. Remember Star Wars and the Kill Spot for the Death Star. This is it.
It plays exactly the same role as the American Embassy in Kabul, Islamabad or Baghdad and to allow it to continue will effectively guarantee Putin’s eventual demise. If I have the measure of Putin correctly I doubt he is so sanguine and I am sure he will eventually run them out of Russia the same as he did with US backed NGO’s. The US embassy in Moscow is now, by necessity, a tertiary staging ground for destabilizing actions against Russia. If Putin is ever assassinated all the answers will be found, I promise you, in this supposedly “untouchable” institution.
On the matter of Russian ineffectiveness regarding propaganda and its apparent weakness, you are still misunderstanding your own effectiveness and the resources dediicated to undermining your incredibly effective Resistance to the Anglo-Zionist media Golliath. Humility is a wonderful quality and it has served you well but is also a weakness when it comes to developing a realistic assessment of yourself. I don’t know why but for some reason you still imagine that RT does the serious work while you are nothing more than a bit player.
This is incorrect my friend. Even if I don’t sound like a friend most of the time I beg you to trust me on this and accept that without you the Anglo-Zionists might well have succeeded in pulling the wool over the eyes of their own restive populations. RT is indeed pathetic and does little more than sustain and maintain the people who are already converted. Most of RT’s viewership is as irrelevant as CNN’s but with you the audience includes people who make opinions because they go in search of authenticity and are determined to find the truth. For people like this your own ups and downs are an affirmation and positive proof of your humanity and sincerity and this helps them (us) to confirm and maintain their (our) own. You are a source of inspiration to the most important group of people regarding what is percieved as real and true in the English speaking world. I recall reading in Canada’s largest paper about how certain Western analysts were flabergasted at how effective certain online Russian Agents had been at undermining the force of their own propaganda. They meant YOU Saker proving once more that This is your Ministry.
Part III
Now it’s time for your Ministry to grow and adapt and wouldn’t you know it but you are a natural when it comes to verbal communication. How fortuitous is that?
Your podcast is very much like Radio Moscow and this is part of the reason I am so excited about your potential to grow and expand your influence. Radio Moscow’s problem wasn’t that it lacked quality, although it was a peculiar sort to anyone who spends their time bathed in super slick AZ media, but that it was on short wave radio and therefore mostly inaccessible. Those who spent anytime with a short wave radio in the seventies or eighties will never forget the power of this experience and if you looked for them today, you would find an incredible number ended up in positions of power and influence.
YOU don’t HAVE this PROBLEM thanks to the INTERNET my Brother Saker.
Sorry for yelling.
More advice will be forthcoming, unwanted or otherwise but for the time being you are off to a roaring start. Remember the super slick media plays a secondary role now as compared to the internet nothwithstanding their own self promoting bullshit. Your channel, once it is more regularily available, will clean the clocks of the AZ media and I am so looking forward.
P.S.
As to the writing of tonally objectionable comments, I wish my own bouts of instability could be 5% as endearing as yours. Ann (are you reading?) has a knack for putting me back on track, as she has done several times. That’s how it is with your podcast voice. One hour of listening to your balanced commentary and easy expression of nuance multiplies your effectiveness 10 000 times — because you are able to strike the right tone and this really does cause people to change how they think. It makes you persuasive while your written commentary often forces people to choose sides in an uncomfortable way. The Anglo-Zionist Empire is a giant glass house which your voice, sustained and regular, could easily shatter.
Talk more. Type less, especially for you know who.
Today the Russian Central Bank (RCB), – a private Bank , despite the name -, has the monopoly of printing the rouble. RCB prints the rouble and lend it to the Russian State with interest. Putin should nationalize RCD, print the rouble and give it to the State (and its citizens) at no interest . By doing so, the seigniorage remains in the State’s hands. However, before doing so, to avoid the same destiny of John F. Kennedy or Aldo Moro, he should well, well, well explain to the Russian people the incredible advantages of such a move.
The observation to be made is that we cannot know what the game of nations played like simultaneous chess before our eyes really means. Clearly some restricting of the money used for control of the world is occurring. The truth of the white and black hats in the metaphysical struggle eludes us.
One good example of this is probably beneath the surface of thought-Putin has as his goal is the best for Russia and the people of Russia. We cannot say this is true. We can say Putin in power is a game token representing resistance to a certain style of financial exploitation that greatly benefits Western economic interests and disadvantages other Russian interests. The exact nature of his resistance may depend on what is good for the Silovik. This then is a good for Putin. It is one part of his power base. Democracy, freedom, human rights, these are not under consideration.
Ah, Khazin suddenly appears to agree with me about the threat posed by the Russian Central Bank but calling for the head to be arrested is VERY different from demanding it be shut down, as Federov has done.
I should have read your post before uploading my comment. Khazin apparently sees the threat — OR — he is two steps ahead and is still working hard to presrve the IMF fortress in Moscow. Calling for someone to be sacked is an old trick used to save an institution that ought to be scrapped.
Also, who set this up and delivered it in such a timely fashion. Why is enhancing Khazin’s credibility suddenly a priority?
Something has happened since Putin’s speech and Khazin and Federov have detected a sharp change in the direction of AZ-Russia relations.
Could Putin’s promise not to touch the Central Bank have been interpreted as proof positive he IS going to move against them? It seems as though Putin doth protest too much of the Central Bank and the cockroaches are scattering.
I don’t understand Russian so I can’t listen to the conversation and make an informed comment as to the exact nature of Khazin’s appeal but this fish stinks not just from the head.
Khazin is not what he appears to be.
Russia and other nations advocating a multipolar world in opposition to the American Empire’s New World Order need to understand one thing: YOU CAN NEVER WIN BY PLAYING BY AMERICA’S GLOBAL ECONOMIC RULES.
It’s like trying to beat the House in Las Vegas.
The House ultimately wins, because it’s a RIGGED GAME.
So you have to bring an end to the game and ultimately end the House itself.
America is the House, and the rigged game is capitalism.
End them both.
Before they end you.
Since people love to attack Russia by comparing Russia to the USSR.And attack Putin by comparing him to Stalin.So I hate to give them help there.But possibly Putin is waiting and building public opinion up before making the dramatic moves needed.As I recall before bringing the policy changes that led to the great industrialization of the 1930’s (as well as some unhappy moves).Stalin did just that.He let people outside the government voice complaints about government policies and officials.And used the “peoples demands” as the reason to change policy and purge the officials standing against those new policies.Maybe Putin thinks that will make the needed changes more widely accepted if not seemingly coming just from him. If that is it,I just wish he would move quicker with it.
On another issue.I’ve heard lately about Putin possibly being sick.That when he got back from Australia he started getting sick.At the ARD interview he looked like he was feeling bad.And some have said at several other occasions he didn’t look well.Could he have been infected with something at the G-20 meeting to make him sick.Or possibly he is just getting sick from overwork and all.But still,I hope he is being checked over by doctors.
Uncle Bob
Since we all have such short memories and need to be reminded of the nature of the ENEMY this is a perfect moment to post this video:
Taboo Topics and Jewish Lobby talk by Henry Herskovitz and Greg Felton
https://archive.org/details/scm-434550-tabootopicsandjewishlobbytalk
Please please please download and watch this thirty minute presentation. It will remind you of the nature of the evil and clever people Russia and Putin are dealing with and why, like the the small fry Nazis at Donetsk airport, they must be expunged.
To “sack” them, as Khazin would like, will only guarantee they will evetually make a comeback and do to Russia what they’ve already done to the entire Western world.
Know your enemy.
Fortunately, Putin does.
3. Now no one has expressed this view on this blog, but the way I see it Russia has no choice but to close itself economically to the west – completely and in almost one swoop.
This is about it. But how to close yourself off if you sell oil ? Russia is in big trouble.
Just for a laugh.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152480626358045&set=p.10152480626358045&type=1
Everyone should watch RT’s video as Putin walking beside Turkish President Erdogan and a saber swinging Turkish solder followed just behind Putin, might stick the saber behind Putin’s back…… Look quite dangerous to me, can you trust any Turk? Just kidding :-)
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/2014/12/07/03-31-05am/putin_gobsmacks_obama_and_euro-leaders_surprise_gas_deal?page=0%2C1
“@Honk:> Putin did not announce a major change in the status of the Ruble, no “golden Ruble” for example.
Which would the most stupid thing to do if he is still in the process of acquiring more gold.
Very good point, you are 100% correct.”
No, I am afraid he isn’t, at least not 100%. Be sure, Putin’s gold buys have not gone unnoticed, he’s not going to surprise the Empire/Banksters with them, and by the way China (and to a lesser extent India) have been doing that for years.
The Empire has a countermeasure ready: coerce gold buyers into not using it. The attitude during the Swiss gold referendum was adamant. Then there is plan B. The idea is: if you just want to put your barbarous relic at stakes, we shall be buying it back at the price we decide (they say “Gold is a commodity, and it has an internationally fixed price”). Or maybe we can buy your gold-backed rubles/yuans at the current exchange rate in return for our worthless greenbacks. If you don’t agree you’ll just be cut out from our markets (China sells goods, Russia energy, they need the markets). They can cope trading with each other but it’s still to be seen whether it will be enough. At least the Empire thinks it will not.
“@Honk:> Putin did not announce a major change in the status of the Ruble, no “golden Ruble” for example.
Which would the most stupid thing to do if he is still in the process of acquiring more gold.
Very good point, you are 100% correct.”
No, I am afraid he isn’t, at least not 100%. Be sure, Putin’s gold buys have not gone unnoticed, he’s not going to surprise the Empire/Banksters with them, and by the way China (and to a lesser extent India) have been doing that for years.
The Empire has a countermeasure ready: coerce gold buyers into not using it. The attitude during the Swiss gold referendum was adamant. Then there is plan B. The idea is: if you just want to put your barbarous relic at stakes, we shall be buying it back at the price we decide (they say “Gold is a commodity, and it has an internationally fixed price”). Or maybe we can buy your gold-backed rubles/yuans at the current exchange rate in return for our worthless greenbacks. If you don’t agree you’ll just be cut out from our markets (China sells goods, Russia energy, they need the markets). They can cope trading with each other but it’s still to be seen whether it will be enough. At least the Empire thinks it will not.
Baboo here,
Totally agree with the article’s sentiment. Time for Putin up or shutin up!
[from Blue]
I would have loved to hear the itnerview with Khazan and Federov, but when I went it for all I could understand they might as well have been speaking Russian.
Shame…
As for Putin, it’s not a good idea to draw and aim a gun unless it’s loaded. Seems to me that if yu want to guess what he will do, listen to what he says and then look some place else (where is loading and laying groundwork). I can’t say I found his speech too terrible though — but he was speaking largely in generalities about some of the critical issues. Whether he would like to go socialist or not, he can’t do it now, or yet, but has to let some things ‘sneak’ in — call them what you will. I’d say the neocons found his speech to outrageously support socialism, or communism, by their measures. I’d rather watch what he does than hear what he says.
For gold — there is too little of it to actually back a currency, although it can bolster exchange rates and other national financial instruments, and confidence.
We have to have fiat currency, but solid fiat, based on production and real wealth. It’s like you have to have laws and lawyers, but lawyers have to be honest and the laws and judges must be good and honest, and obeyed rather than ignored. It’s similar with banks.
The thing with socialism and some form of communism is they are practical and pragmatic, and so is Putin. His biggest problem is still dealing with a very powerful fifth column, and it requires finesse.
__Blue
bob kay , what you are saying is that the next generation of indians would be the richest people on the planet… Considering there is over 22000 tons of gold held by individuals in india even if the government only holds 250 tons.. They are still trying to make people NOT buy Gold by taxing the hell out of it as well as making it almost impossible to import the metal into the country. When you see people smuggling Gold from Pakistan to India, you know they have a problem.. China only has just over 12000 tons of gold or so.. The GLD fund used to hold the largest amount of Gold before most of it got shipped to China so americans now hold just paper no matter what the huge print says.
The CB and all that it means is the major threat. But dismantling the current system in one fell swoop, with no back-up mechanism, may be equivalent to default, perhaps with the outcome of last time round if for no other reason than trust (or, to be more precise, intelligibility) breaks down (with perhaps a ricochet effect on the nascent BRICS and Eurasian free trade area). I peronally think something like a two-tier currency system is required (perhaps a gold backed rouble2 for all affairs with State involvement acting as stabilizer and bridge to a post-Bretton Woods economic order). Ingrian (08 December 21:44) is right. These are things you don’t announce – you just do them. Over and above Putin’s vision and intentions, is it within his constitutional reach to, say. abolosh the CB? Anyway, I’m as scared as Saker.
“Russian central bank is part of the BIS Basel system,which means in true reality that it is owned by Rotschild banksters.
This is not conspiracy theory it is a fact.All ‘independent so called’ central banks are.”
Dude, go read some serious sources (like for example laws relevant to the central banking) and stop parroting nonsense.
The whole “Rothschild ownz the world” is a bunch of stupid propaganda.
The banks are fully owned by the countries. The FED is owned by the congress and could be ended tomorrow if the congress wanted it so. The british central bank was nationalized in the 90’s. And so on, NONE of them belongs to any “Rothschilds” or any such nonsense.
That’s what the Big Brother wants you to believe, so you don’t go after the real criminals – your government minions and their real owners – big industry, big oil, old aristocracy etc. They have the easy explanation for dummies, “it was teh bankzterzzzz, we are helpless victims, yadda yadda”.
No bank could exist if the state doesn’t allow it. And noone fwcks the state, it’s ALWAYS the opposite.
“Russian central bank is part of the BIS Basel system,which means in true reality that it is owned by Rotschild banksters.
This is not conspiracy theory it is a fact.All ‘independent so called’ central banks are.”
Dude, go read some serious sources (like for example laws relevant to the central banking) and stop parroting nonsense.
The whole “Rothschild ownz the world” is a bunch of stupid propaganda.
The banks are fully owned by the countries. The FED is owned by the congress and could be ended tomorrow if the congress wanted it so. The british central bank was nationalized in the 90’s. And so on, NONE of them belongs to any “Rothschilds” or any such nonsense.
That’s what the Big Brother wants you to believe, so you don’t go after the real criminals – your government minions and their real owners – big industry, big oil, old aristocracy etc. They have the easy explanation for dummies, “it was teh bankzterzzzz, we are helpless victims, yadda yadda”.
No bank could exist if the state doesn’t allow it. And noone fwcks the state, it’s ALWAYS the opposite.
Stavros H a couple of years ago the Indian rupee collapsed more than 50% and went from 43:1 to 69:1.. it has been stable now around 61:1 even with the dollar rising like it has. So that aloen shows that they take down currencies of countries not towing the line one by one. I seen them do this to at least a dozen of them. If they all drop or rise then we can understand it is a market that is doing it but when you see single countries and nothing to suggest such massive problems, thats done to send a message.. In this case it was India blocking the food package for tariff free import to india for US food items. Now who would want to pay rs50 for an apple when a whole meal costs that much is not the question.. But why the US would want to under price the very small farmers out of their livelihood.. Or allow the government to stockpile food for emergencies by buying excess food directly from the farmers. In the last decade the RS has dropped from 30:1 to now 60:1.. but it took almost 10 years to move from 30 to 45.. But less than 6 months for 45 to 70.. I think the Ruble will do a similar thing until they find it costs too much to make it weaker.. If Russians have a hard time buying ipads without selling a lung, well tough.. I think they should do the Venezuela where they keep it stable and suddenly overnight devalue it 25%,
This is one of the best discussions I have read on Saker. Very, very interesting. It is a privilege to be part of it.
Thank you Saker and Saker community.
@ Stavros h.: China was completely built by US investments and is basically owned by the US.
The US investments in China were over $15 Trillion as of few years ago, nowadays probably even more.
So far the hard facts. The rest of your post is irrelevant nonsense, thus not worth the effort, sorry.
So how could Putin and his allies get someone like Glazyev or Khazin to head the Central Bank? Would that be sufficient, or are more changes required?
You’re completely off the mark on this one, Saker.
Putin is buying enormous quantities of gold and pushing for a juge dedollarization. It’s an evolution that will kill part of the US might. But it takes time and doesn’t need hurray declarations.
Then this is the point, Saker. Whitout theorie revolucionarie there are not action revolucionarie. At Brazil workers party is a social democratic party, once at power they give sequence to neoliberal economics a lot.
Putin is better, but like Lula or Dilma can no stay at required level.
We and the world need a good, articulate and truly communist party.
Alexandre
I have every faith in Putin, and that he is aware of all factors at play. and I agree, there is an element of “waiting game” involved.
There’s a saying, “He who laughs last, laughs best” I’m betting on Putin.
As an aside, somebody recently posted here that there is a problem with payment to the mercenary fighters for Kiev. That there are American fighters among them, that there are rumblings among them, and that it is very possible that these mercenaries may turn on those who were supposed to pay them.
S… I reckoned that the Canadian military police were brought in to protect the oligarchs. But I also thought about this a bit more.
If this is the case, that mercenaries have not been paid and are getting antsey, this may also explain Poroshenko’s sudden interest in a ceasefire. He may not be able to afford them anymore. Heck, they could even turn on Kiev. My understanding is that there are not many Ukranians willing to fight anymore, that it is predominantly mercenaries now. Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks!
Judging from a Foreign Policy article on Sweden’s feminist foreign policy, as reported on here,
http://redpilltimes.com/swedens-new-foreign-minister-will-employ-feminist-foreign-policy-destroy-russia-putin-macho-men/
I reckon if Russia and the West are engaged in a race to the bottom, the West has already won that race hands down!
Stavros H. said, “Just imagine how useful those $100bln would be for the Russian Armed forces and for Russian businesses and general welfare. This is only one of several examples of how liberal currency policy has been harming Russia for decades now.”
You are an alarmist! One hundred billion is nothing compared to the trillions of barrels of light sweet crude in the earth of Mother Russia. It is Vladimir Putin’s historic role to assist the end of the Empire of the Dollar($IMFS) without thermonuclear war, chaos, or closed systems inhibiting world trade.
Ann said, “Saker, I’m glad you are wanting action. I agree. I hope Putin has this up his sleeve and has the right guys on his side.”
What action? The Central Bank of Russia maintains stability of the currency and international convertibility in the last days of the $IMFS. The structural support for the dollar empire is being withdrawn and collapse is inevitable. The one hundred billion decline of the rouble is the short term cost of avoiding war and chaos. The IMF will end when the USD ceases its international imperial function and Central Banks around the world will be freed to emit honest money.
It is not action, but patience and prudence which are needed in the perilous transition from the imperial monetary one world system, to a multi-polar world system of fiat currency blocks. London and New York will lose their privilege of buying whatever they want to fund wars, police, and free stuff to control the masses with pieces of paper. Vladimir Putin must avoid the trap of reactive violence or precipitous action against the USD. Without the $IMFS the Anglo-Zionist Empire is finished! The world only pays a little more to insure the death of the dollar is relatively peaceful. The great reset is what we are living through, but this will only be apparent in retrospect. Soon the era of imperial war is over…it is already over militarily and now weaponized finance is failing. Time will solve this problem, not re(action).
Part 1 of 2
“except for what was not said”
What is not said gives others the opportunity to fill the voids/silences with their own pre-judgements, expectations, prejudices.
It is also an invitation to focus on details and limit strategic vision/opportunities.
Some of these prejudices oftentimes promulgated in this blog are that Russia does not effectively have a collective leadership and an active base supporting this collective leadership – I’m not restricting this to votes or opinion polls.
A hammer tends to see nails, and a monarchist tends to see monarchs.
Another significant lacuna is based on limited historical knowledge so that the opposition, its geneses and its relative strengths/weaknesses/opportunities/threats, to use a tool much beloved by the opponents, are not thoroughly assessed.
Perceived opposition to economic restructuring in the Soviet Union/Russia was dangerous from inception, including its definition – the initial Bolsheviks in their mapping seeing dissenters as enemies of the people, and was “handled” in different ways at different periods.
This “handling” included but was not necessarily restricted to starting in early 1918 by the initial gulag followed by NEP, then collectivisation, the Dalstroi trust/Gulag – forced labour, labour passports, internal passports, and propiskas, through the Krushchev “reforms”, the reaction of the red experts and associates from 1956 – the Brezhnev/Kosygan accomodation, the restructuring efforts under the “roof” of Mr. Andropov and associates, then Mr. Gorbachov and associates.
Good strategists do not restrict their vision to a small number of strategies, and as a consequence of his many errors including 1956, 1968 etc, and ability to learn from them eventually, Mr. Andropov and associates were good strategist hence the “roof”.
The efforts under the “roof” of Mr. Andropov and associates were not restricted to strategies normally associated with Mr. Gorbachov and associates.
Some even posit that Mr. Andropov was Mr. Gorbachov’s godfather as they both came from Stavropolsky oblast, thereby muddying the waters.
These “handlings” took place in an interactive dynamic environment where none had sole agency, although opponents were often led to think that had so.
Continuing with the seeking of monarchs, since “advisors to Mr. Putin” are not defined this gives others the opportunity to fill the voids/silences with their own pre-judgements, expectations, prejudices, including not thoroughly assessing relative significance.
Mr. Khazin and others are entitled to their opinion.
However an English saying should be borne in mind –
Those who can do, those who can’t teach.
Part 2 of 2
“except for what was not said”
The “Washington concensus” was never consensual, nor as Russian history from 1991 shows significantly implemented in Russia, partly as a consequence of the Yeltsin/Zhirinovsky then Yeltsin/Zuganov roadshows – none of those cited being as they are oftentimes represented.
The removal of Harvard University as prime contractor for USAID projects in Russia including Mr. Sachs following the 1994 Senate Foreign Relation studies was precisely because it was recognised that the “Washington concensus” was not vigorously or even in significant part being implemented.
Amongst other aspects the 1998 Russian banking crisis/default was a “disappearance” of the “investments” the US had made; significantly more than the cake lady’s USD 5 billion.
Another tendency in this blog is the notion of categorical imperatives – the “must do’s”, attempting to restrict strategic opportunities and leading to subsequent surprises.
A further tendency in this blog is to conflate the juridical with the actual and hence put forward undefined notions such as “in power”.
Throughout recent history Mr. Putin and associates have understood that their most dangerous opponents were/are themselves, and that is part of the reason Mr. Putin was in a position to make the speech you reference.
The above has been trailed in the blog but normally under the banner of Anonymous which some apparently do not read as a consequence of various pre-judgements..
Amongst other aspects in times of full bladders it is only good manners to offer a place to take a leak.
Sheep who think they are sharks often end as shashlik.
“I love Dvorak’s slavic dances. I will dance to them not when threats are made, but when action is taken.”
Perhaps it is a function of experience, but especially when done conciously inaction is a form of action.
However action/inaction is a false binary better avoided.
A dance is often an action capable of observation, and music a setter of “moods”.
‘Rouble Nationalization’ by Nikolay Starikov explains the problems of the national currency and historical foundation of the RF.
In the Gorbachev & Yeltsin years the US ‘economic advisers’ wrote the legislation and setup a deal very beneficial to America.
For roubles to be created,the RCB must hold dollars……but(!!!) at a rate of 30:1,to issue 3,000 roubles the RCB must hold 100 dollars…this is monstrous!… without a massive majority in the State Duma the goverment cannot even change the workings/personel at the bank.
Proposed changes must be submitted to the bank for it’s approval(!!).
Russia has real wealth but is being ripped off having a permanent ‘internal exchange rate mechanism’ imposed upon it by the most indebted nation in the worlds history.
The gold aspect:
China,Australia,Russia and the US are the top miners and neither Russia nor China allows gold to leave their respective countries. The RCB & PBOC buy gold on the world markets.
Koos Jansen over @ BullionStar.com does excellent research,and posts regularly.
World mine supply ex Russia & China is appx 2,600 tons per year, last year China overtook India with the Shanghai Gold Exchange delivering 2,197 tons,the BRICS, Turkey & Iran understand gold.
This is real metal,not the paper gold contracts that are gamed on the Comex exchange,likewise India and China love Silver,always have, the British and US scam to de-monetize silver caused terrible suffering in India and China, stealing the Indian silver Rupee and giving the people paper Rupees that had little purchasing power.
Koos Jansen publishes figures for Silver also,with import restrictions on gold,the people imported 7,000 tons of Silver.
cheers.
Quote:
“Does that mean that Putin is hesitant, weak or confused?”
My Answer and opinion:
No, I don’t think that Putin is hesitant, but I think that Khazin suffers from paranoia and hi sees enemies and foreign agents everywhere.
And it is very dangerous way of thinking.
Russia must get rid of oil dependency, must develop small business and that is exactly what Putin said.
To achieve this, Russian government must release economy and small business from too much administrative and bureaucratic chains.
And this is quickest way to decrease oil dependency, which is really at the same time strength but also weak point of Russia, as we can see now.
Yes, Russia must create parallel economic system, but it is very hard task and cannot be achieved in a short term.
Russia must endure because this is struggle for survive. West and USA want to destroy Russia and they will not stop. Actually everything is same as before, but now USA political elite go without mask and without gloves.
Watching that Sergei Glaziev piece (from about half way through) has me worried that Putin has a mammoth task ahead of him and he is leaving things very late.
A seriously good article from Information Clearing House. Putin is dealing with so much and it is not for us to second guess him. Patience.
Grandmaster Putin’s Golden Trap
By Dmitry Kalinichenko
read more: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40407.htm
AM
Saker, imagine that Putin did what you want: the Western press would grab this to announce it as a return to communism and a rejection of capitalism. The result would be a hurried capital flight by all of Russia’s oligarchs. The US would be very pleased as it would greatly help its economic warfare.
If Putin takes action the accent will very likely be on low level below the radar actions. Very likely the results will only become visible after some time.
Putin doesnt want to decouple because that is what the americans want, they want a return to cold war, thats comfortable for the US, they all want to live in the past (even if they cant make their mind up whether Putin is a ‘nazi’ or ‘commie’ .. totally laughable) The problem with america is that it WILL NOT change, it refuses to, as a combination of hubris/arrogance and fear. Putin still wants to court the west and EU .. everyone knows its only the US and their weak allies like non entities canada and autralia and UK that just go along with everything they say. The moment Putin decouples is the moemnt the US will start fighting in Ukraine again and then push for even more sanctions and also it will be the moment that Putin loses EU AND more importantly Germany. The Germans are a massive part of silk roads from china/russia, and a ‘resurgent’ US vs Russia ‘ideological battle’ will really end this, which of course it also what the americans want. They want Russia isolated and Putin doesnt and I think quite rightly .. many nations sympathetic to Russia/Putin will cave in to US pressure completely if Putin opts out of the current model at THIS moment. I dont know what his long range plan might be but WHEN he opts out he needs to do it from as strong a position as possible ans to inflict maximum damage on the US economy if this is at all possible.
@Penelope 02:08
This link shows a Ukrainian general who explains in a video (naming many names) the CIA, Masonry, Zionist takeover of the country. People with better knowledge will be able to date the intervew best but I think it comes from just before Maidan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK_JaP7cGAo
Euromaidan-2? Central Ukraine region braces for new protest, demands regional council resign http://rt.com/news/212707-ukraine-vinnitsa-protest-council/
After 5000 locals protested on Saturday, on Monday somebody sent the murderous Aidar Batalion there.
I’m extremely shocked and pray for my friend there(((((
There are many good people, they were simply believing western propaganda all the time (and never could believe me). Same as myself until 1989. They are in huge danger :( It is a tragedy, if it goes worse
There’s too much overestimating of the power of American Financiers.
Like prior to 1940, Battleships were supposed to be an unsinkable, indefeatable foe, except by similarly large battleships. The reality proved quite different.
Let’s recall that many American multinationals, from McDonald’s to Walmart, depend on discretionary income at home and expanding franchises/locations abroad. These are some of the wealthiest, most powerful multinationals in the world, and control an immense amount of political patronage.
They won’t let Citigroup or Goldman-Sachs destroy their own source of wealth.
This is not because of patriotism or a sense of kindness, but because of their own self-interest.
I must say, I (as a Soviet-East-German)really loved that western part of Ukraine. It is a big chunk of my heart. It was such a peaceful happy place full of joy and smiling families. Poor yes – but in dignity and full of spirit. The only thing I didn’t like was the blind belief in “the good friend WEST, USA, EU”. And the frequent complaining how “poor they were” and how “good and democratic and magicthe West” in their dream-view was. They hated the Soviet Union and never believed me. My relationship broke from that distortion. And they hated it, when I told them how much I love Ukraine _because_ I admire Russia. This only as side-info: They (most of the normal civilians) ARE NOT our enemies. Only a bit naive and maybe slow. May God save them!!!
Saker,
The Reform package for Ukraine by its newly installed “US” government is out. Information is below.
http://kaceo.info/2014/12/08/us-krainian-manual-how-to-extinguish-a-nation/
https://kaceoblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/the-bill.pdf
German version to the new Ukraine reform bill
http://kaceo.info/2014/12/08/us-krainisches-handbuch-wie-man-ein-volk-ausloscht/
Hello, Saker …
Remember that even the longest journey begins with one step, and step by step it pursues the goal.
Like me and a growing number of people, you would like to see the point victory against supremacist system. However, the road will be long and painful. Let the forces of anti-systems go on their own speed and not remember that we are on the wire of Occam, a single misstep …. and this is the end, my friend, is the very end.
François french citizen
Hello, Saker …
Remember that even the longest journey begins with one step, and step by step it pursues the goal.
Like me and a growing number of people, you would like to see the point victory against supremacist system. However, the road will be long and painful. Let the forces of anti-systems go on their own speed and not remember that we are on the wire of Occam, a single misstep …. and this is the end, my friend, is the very end.
François french citizen
Calm down Saker. Putin knows what he is doing. The man is a master strategist who outclasses all of us here!
My take is that Russia is faced with a powerful and dangerous external attack. That is the worst time to embark on a dicey & divisive frontal attack on powerful internal enemies.
Besides time is on Putin’s side in the internal conflict. The more the west attacks Russia, the more discredited its Russian allies become. Like rotten fruit, they will eventually just fall from the tree.
This strategy means trouble for the Russian economy. But so does an all out frontal confrontation.
Calm, calm, very calm …
Putin is correct.
BRICS are preparing another kind of multilateral trade probably not “derivatives” and other crazy things invented by the Banksters.
The economy can not stop, Putin can not simply leave the current system and wait for the next one set.
What happens at the moment is how you try to jump from a moving truck to another moving truck.
Both are going the same way, when the BRICS jump to the next truck will be the thing interesting.
:-)
Russia cannot establish free convertibility of the rouble into gold before the price of gold is back to normal, otherwise its limited reserves would be overnight pillaged and flushed away by a mountain of freshly printed dollars (changing first dollars into roubles and then roubles into gold). The USA have an unlimited printing capacity that Soros didn’t have between September 1992, when he destroyed the British pound, and August 1993, when he destroyed the European Monetary System. Russia has neither the metallic capacity, nor the commercial power or the political liberty to trigger the end of the dollar. It is China, as soon as it cannot get any more metal for its dollars, that will decide the end of the dollar (by simply refusing it as a mean of payment), and only then will Russia (and other countries) be able to safely back its currency with gold; a real market-evaluated gold, of which all the dollars in the world will not be able to buy much… contrarily to today.
Anonymous 00:34
“Can anybody show a video where Putin is peaking Chinese?”
President Putin is now learning Chinese so you may see a video in the future. :-)
As far as Putin yakking about RF being European two years ago, I doubt he really cares about that today.
I don’t think Serdyukov was all that bad and that is the reason why Putin waited so long to remove him. I honestly think that the man did a lot of very good work for Russia. This witch hunt reminded me slightly of Strauss Khan scandal. Organized and exploited human weakness, same as with Serdyukov and his secretary I believe..
Putin is in a tough middle place, trying to untangle the Gordian knot of finance without just cutting it into bits. That would be quicker, to be sure, but I think he is trying to save bits of the old system and use them in the new system. The old era of central banks is coming to a close, but it would be nice to minimize chaos in the interim.
Being neither Orthodox, nor Slavic (at least to the extent anyone can be certain of one’s grandfathers), and a citizen of the US born and bred, I have a different perspective on the discussed events than The Saker (Turul says “Hi”).
The significant event this week for me is the letter of agreement between Turkey and Russia and the political impact. Of special note is that Putin announced the agreement with a criticism of Bulgaria being neither sovereign nor independent. Later Putin phoned Orban and Nikolic (implying Hungary and Serbia are acting sovereign and independent), but snubbed Bulgaria. The impact on the Balkans of a possible political alignment of Turkey and Russia must be nightmarish for the paranoid there. It would be astonishing if Turkey let this opportunity pass.
So, from an East Central Europe view, the surrounding triangle of ’empires’ are back in the game, Germanic, Russian, and Ottoman.
Now, it gets interesting, I think.
The path from opinion to testable hypothesis is a longest journey started with the first step as noted by Mr. Mao Tse Tung.
Bosnian Croat said…@ 09 December, 2014 12:44
” but now USA political elite go without mask and without gloves.”
Perhaps a happy accident or Diet Moroz visited earlier than expected?
@Amerikanski:So, from an East Central Europe view, the surrounding triangle of ’empires’ are back in the game, Germanic, Russian, and Ottoman.
I see why you say that but you are overlooking two key facts:
1)Unlike the USA, there is zero, I repeat *ZERO* desire of anybody in Russia (well, maybe less than 1% truly stupid or insane folks) to have another Russian Empire.
2) Russia did not create this situation. It was imposed upon Russia by the AngloZionists.
In other words, you comparison is very unfair, really.
Sorry :-(
Cheers,
The Saker
ME Janssen said…@ 09 December, 2014 16:24
“chaos”
Care to define the term?
The head of the Russian central bank is the half Jewish Elvira Nabiullina.
So, after all, Bakunin was right about Jews and the central bank.
If there ia a reason why Putin cannot win this war it is because he trusts Jews too much.
It is not the primitive anti-semitism, it is the fact of life.
Why is Roman Abramovich still free ? How much do you have to steal from the Russian people to get punished?
I thought that when Putin exiled Berezovsky and Gusinsky , and imprisoned Khodorkovsky, that he is on a right path. Why did he stop?
They are all the pawns of Rothschild family.
Perhaps Putin is scared. Perhaps he is a philo-semite, Perhaps he needs that China and India also take control of their central banks. Russia cannot winn this alone, after all.
If we are to stop Rothschilds we need absolute union of Russia, China and India, as the only three countries that really matter on the opposite side of Rothschild controled West.
The Wend.
Saker,
Germans may not want a German Empire controlling Eastern Europe and helping in the breaking up of Russia, either. For that matter, did Europeans like their empires in the past? But a South American looking at the struggle for control of Eastern Europe could easily feel that it is another battle between Germany and Russia for influence.
Western Ukraine:
Beautiful East-slavic girls that wear clothes worth 1000 $
Orthodox X-mas and Eastern
Holy water from the village
Borscht soup and Pirogga
Datcha
Kwas drink
Moskvich, Lada and new BMW’s
Speak Russian most of the time (not that funny dialect)
<<–versus–>>
Russia:
Beautiful East-slavic girls that wear clothes worth 1000 $
Orthodox X-mas and Eastern
Holy water from the village
Borscht soup and Pirogga
Datcha
Kwas drink
Moskvich, Lada and new BMW’s
Speak Russian most of the time (not that funny dialect)
What’s the difference that enables anybody to distinguish them (I always asked them) ??
Admittedly there is a one difference: Russians were brought up with Love. Ukrainians were saturated with HATE (by Zionist western TV, cinema and Porky sponsored yearly “Day of Europe” and his candy factory Rochen’s Pro-EU fireworks in Vinnitsa. But what else??
Putin is waiting for the Russian people to come out onto the streets and give their voice to purge the atlanticists.
@Paul II:Germans may not want a German Empire controlling Eastern Europe and helping in the breaking up of Russia, either.
Good. Because there is no German Empire. There is a Germany colony in the US Empire which still has plenty of support in the USA itself, if not actively politically, then passively culturally.
For that matter, did Europeans like their empires in the past?
Yes, they loved it.
Cheers,
The Saker
“””””VINEYARDSAKER: said…
@Paul II:Germans may not want a German Empire controlling Eastern Europe and helping in the breaking up of Russia, either.
Sahra Wagenknecht: Frau Merkel als Vasall des Plans von “Brzezinski” – USA die einzige Weltmacht!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dlqnf43eDo
Good. Because there is no German Empire. There is a Germany colony in the US Empire which still has plenty of support in the USA itself, if not actively politically, then passively culturally.”””””
Hi Saker,
while there are _some_ few such idiots, a clear _majority_ of germans does definitely _not_ want any bad relations with Russia at all.
Don’t fall into the trap to read western MSM and to believe a single word. WE HAVE NO SAY HERE. TV and newspapers are lying “without gloves”. And more and more folks begin to notice this. But what can we do? Thousands and thousands of peace activists go to the streets Monday after Monday, and yet: MSM claims all this is nothing more than antisemite Nazis and right-wing extremists.
german citizens have always been sluggish and lazy, but even as they are slowly waking up: Either MSM don’t report at all, or distort it until it serves the opposite points.
Jürgen Elsässer – Montagsdemo ERFURT 26.Mai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xLW5pAE_c8
About western media manipulation:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=journalist+packt+aus
Oops: Erroneously I had pasted the following link into your text that I quoted.
Here again, btw. and example that not all Jews are Zionists (just like not all Zionists are Jews) :
Sahra Wagenknecht: Frau Merkel als Vasall des Plans von “Brzezinski” – USA die einzige Weltmacht!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dlqnf43eDo
The Saker: “1)Unlike the USA, there is zero, I repeat *ZERO* desire of anybody in Russia (well, maybe less than 1% truly stupid or insane folks) to have another Russian Empire.”
I put ’empires’ in quotes to indicate it was not meant literally. Historically, Russia has had little to do with this region which is the old Austro-Hungarian Empire.
‘Empire’ I use to refer to nations whose relative power is massive compared to that of the small nations adjacent to them. They once were empires in the political sense, if not today. I haven’t a satisfactory alternative word.
“2) Russia did not create this situation. It was imposed upon Russia by the AngloZionists.”
Yes, this seems to be the case, and for Europe as a whole, too. Europe still hasn’t come to terms with the existence of the USA, integrating it into its (or their) “worldview”.
I don’t understand why Anglos…gentiles find Zion so attractive. I can understand Israel, a nation-state. I can understand the Jews as a people. But I don’t understand gentile Zionists…except perhaps as opportunists.