This article was written for the Unz Review: http://www.unz.com/tsaker/the-ancient-spiritual-roots-of-russophobia/
Introduction
The term “russophobia” (the hatred and/or fear of things Russian) has become rather popular in the recent years, courtesy of the anti-Russian hysteria of the AngloZionist Empire, but this is hardly a new concept. In his seminal book “Russie-Occident – une guerre de mille ans: La russophobie de Charlemagne à la Crise Ukrainienne” (“The West vs Russia – a thousand year long war: russophobia from Charlemange to the Ukrainian Crisis”) which I recently reviewed here, Guy Mettan places the roots of russophobia as early as the times of Charlemagne. How could that be? That would mean that russophobia predates the birth of Russia by a full two centuries? And yet, Mettan is correct, although even he does not paint the full picture.
What I propose to do today is not to discuss modern russophobia which has numerous causes and forms, but to look far back into history for the ancient spiritual roots of this relatively modern phenomenon.
My thesis will probably trigger even more condescending smirks, expression of outrage and accusations of bigotry and racism than usual. That is fine. In fact, I will welcome them as a visceral reaction to what I propose to uncover below. One glaring weakness of my argument will be that I won’t bother presenting numerous sources as evidence for my assertions. Not only am I not writing an academic paper here, I simply don’t have the time and space needed to substantiate all my claims. Still, all the facts and claims I make below are easily verifiable for anybody with an Internet connection. My goal today is not to convince the naysayers, but to offer a few hopefully useful pointers to those seeking to connect the dots and see the full picture. This being, said, let’s now go far back in time.
A 2000 year old dispute
Those who believe that the Romans crucified Christ better stop reading here and go back to the comfort of ignorance. Those who have actually read the New Testament or, for that matter, the basic Judaic texts on this topic, know that Christ was accused and executed for the crime of blasphemy: He claimed to be the Son of God, the Son of Man (a messianic title), the messiah announced by the prophets and that He was God: “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58) (this “I AM” is a direct reference to Exodus 3:14). This claim is what split the Jewish people into those who accepted Christ’s claims and believed Him and those who did not. What is interesting here, is the view which the Jews who did accept Christ had of those Jews who did not. As we all know, Saint John the Theologian wrote the famous words “I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan” (Rev 2:9). And Christ Himself said “If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham” (John 8:39). What we see here is the basis for a claim which was first made in the Apostolic times and which was later fully endorsed and further developed by the Church Fathers: those Jews who rejected Christ thereby lost their “Jewishness” and the “new Jews” are the Christians, regardless of ethnicity, which now have become the new “chosen people”. In our modern times of hyper-political correctness and generalized “ecumenical dialogs of love”, Christians are mostly ignorant of theses facts and, when they are, they dare not mention them in public. At a time when Popes declare that Jews are their “older brothers”, that they need not accept Christ and that Christians and Jews are awaiting the same 2nd coming of Christ, saying that Christianity denies Jews their very Jewish identity is definitely “mauvais ton”. But before the 20th century, this Christian claim that modern “Jews” were not really Jews anymore was common knowledge, both amongst Christians and amongst Jews.
[Sidebar: as I explained it in some details here, modern “Judaism” is not the religion of “Abraham, Isaac and Jacob” but the religion of Maimonides, Karo and Luria and has its roots in the teachings of the sect of the Pharisees, the Talmud and the Kabbalah. The closest modern heir to Christ-rejecting Jews of the times of Christ would be the Karaite sect. Modern “Judaism” really ought to be called “Phariseic Talmudism”. For a traditional Patristic look at Phariseic Talmudism, please see here and here]
Conversely, Judaic teaching about Christ are not sympathetic either. A quick read of the Toldot Yeshu or, for that matter, the passages about Christ in the Talmud, will convince anyone in need of convincing that the Pharisees’ hatred for Christ was not satiated with His crucifixion. And lest anybody think that this is all racist drivel by blue-eyed Nazis, here is a good article on this topic from Ha’artez corroborating it all.
Nowadays an uninformed observer might erroneously conclude that there is a big love-fest between Judaics and Christians, but to the extend that this is true, this is solely due to the fact that most modern Christians and Judaics have long ceased to believe, think and act in accordance to their own traditions. The reality is that for traditional Christians, modern Judaics are fallen, lapsed, people who have failed to live up to their election by God and who now are determined to take by force what had been promised to them by God. For traditional Judaics, Christians are idolaters of the worst kind, as they worship a blaspheming magician, born of a promiscuous hairdresser and a Roman legionnaire, who was justly executed for his crimes and who now forever is confined to hell where he boils in excrements. And lest anybody believe that this hostility is only a matter of a long gone past, I would add that while the Judaics are still waiting for as their messiah, the Christian consensus patrum indicates that this Judaic messiah will be the very same person whom Christ and the Apostles called the Antichrist.
Why does all this matter? It matters because at the very core of it all is the claim that Gentiles have replaced Jews as the chosen people of God, that Christians are the “new Jews” and that modern day Jews are simply not Jews at all, not only because most of them are more Khazarian than Jewish, but because their faith, traditions and beliefs are not the ones of the ancient Jewish people as described in the Old Testament. In other words, Christianity says that Jews are not Jews.
A 1000 year old dispute
Western history books usually say that Rome was sacked in 410 and fell in 476. The former is true, but the latter is completely false as it conflates the city of Rome and the Roman Empire. Only the city of Rome and the western Roman Empire came to an end in the 5th century, but that very same Roman Empire continued to exist in the East for a full 1000 years (!), until the 1453 when the Ottomans finally captured the city of Constantinople. In fact, the imperial capital of the Roman Empire had been moved from Rome to the city of Constantinople, the “New Rome”, by the Emperor Constantine in 320. Thus, the Rome which, at various times, Visigoths, Vandals and Ostrogoths sacked was no longer the capital of the Roman Empire.
These two crucial dates, 476 and 1453, are often used to mark the beginning and the end of the Middle-Ages (along with other dates between the 5th and the 15th century). And since I am setting up the crucial dates for my argument, I will add another one here: 1054, the “official” date for the so-called “Great Schism” between, on one hand, Rome (the city) and, on the other, the other four Patriarchates founded by the Apostles: the Patriarchates of Alexandria, Antioch, Jerusalem, and Constantinople.
At this point, things get complicated and a halfway decent explanation of what really took place would require no less than 100 pages, including a discussion of dogmatic theology, culture, sociology and, of course, politics. The best I can provide at this point are a few bullet-point style sentences summarizing what happened:
The Franks, especially Charlemagne, decided that they would re-create the Roman Empire. To be truly Romans, the Franks also wanted to make their own, original, contribution to Christian theology. They did so by making an addition to the so-called “Symbol of Faith”, or “Credo” in Latin, a text which summarizes the key Christian beliefs. Furthermore, since they were now occupying Rome, the former imperial capital of the Empire, the Franks felt that they were in control of the spiritual capital of the Christian world and that, therefore, the rest of the Christian world ought to accept the primacy of the bishop of Rome – called the “Pope” – and his right to impose a new dogma on the entire Christian world. Following roughly 200 years of tensions between the (Frankish-occupied) Rome and the (still free) eastern Roman Empire the final separation took place in 1054 when the Pope excommunicated the Patriarch of Constantinople who then returned him the favor. What is important for our purposes is this: not only did the Frankish invasion of Rome mark the end of the Roman civilization in the West, it also cut-off the western world from the Roman Empire which continued to exist for another ten centuries. The process of severance between the two parts of the Empire began in the 5th century following the fall of the city of Rome and continued throughout the following centuries. During the 10th century, Rome suffered during the so-called dark ages (saeculum obscurum) and the so-called the “Rule of the Harlots” (pornokratia). At a time when the Roman Empire in the east was almost at the apex of its glory, the Franks were indulging in an orgy of destruction and corruption which completely changed the face of the western part of the European continent and completely severed the vital cultural and spiritual ties which had kept the Roman Empire together in the past centuries.
During the following 1000 years while the Roman Empire continued its existence in the East, the European Middle-Ages slowly and painfully gave birth to a new civilization, the West European civilization, which really took its first mature shape during the Renaissance with it’s re-discovery of the ancient Greek and Roman world. Whatever form this so-called “re-discovery” took, it is a fact that the 1000 years of the Middle-Ages separate modern western civilization from the Roman civilization and that modern Europe was born not of the Romans, but of the Franks. The (Orthodox) East, however, has never known any “Middle-Ages” and has maintained a cultural and religious continuity to the ancient Christian world and the Roman Empire.
In the West, the so-called “Roman Catholic Church” (another misnomer – there is nothing Roman or “catholic” – meaning “universal” – about the Papacy as it is Frankish and local) likes to present itself as the original Church whose roots and traditions go back to the Apostolic times. This is simply false. The reality is that the religion which calls itself “Roman Catholic” is a relatively new religion, younger than Islam by several centuries, which was born in the 11th century of a rejection of the key tenets of the 1000 year long Christian faith. Furthermore, from the moment of its birth, this religion has embarked on an endless cycle of innovations including the 19th century (!) dogmas of the Papal infallibility and the Immaculate Conception. Far from being conservative or traditionalists, the Latins have always been rabid innovators and modernists.
Nowadays there are many Christian denominations out there, but only the Orthodox Churches can testify to the fact that the Frankish local Church is neither Roman, nor Catholic, that it’s roots are not in the Apostolic times, but in the (dark) Middle-Ages and that far from being a heir to the 2000 year old faith “which the Lord gave, was preached by the Apostles, and was preserved by the Fathers” to use the words of Saint Athanasios, the Latin faith is nothing but a collection of deviations from the original Christian faith.
The feared and hated witness
Now we see a pattern here. Both for the Judaics and for the Latins, the Orthodox Christians are the only witnesses out there who can (and do!) openly challenge not only their legitimacy, but their very identity. From an Orthodox perspective (and here I am referring to the traditional, Patristic, point of view) modern Jews are not Jews and the Catholics are not catholic. In both cases, we are dealing with very successful frauds, but frauds nonetheless. Orthodox Christians believe that they, and they alone, are both the real Jews and the real Catholics. Modern Jews are nothing but Pharisees while Latins are simply heretics. Jews were called to be the Chosen People while Rome used to be recognized as the “first amongst equals” by the other Patriarchates. Alas, in both cases a tragic fall from grace occurred in a manner reminiscent of Lucifer’s fall from Heaven (“How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!” Isa 14:12). And to those who would say that such a claim is preposterous, Orthodox Christians would simply point at the immense corpus of Patristic writings which has always supported that claim. The only option for somebody rejecting this claim is to reject Christianity itself.
My argument here is not a historical or theological one. Regardless of whether one accepts or not the Orthodox view of modern “Judaism” and “Roman Catholicism” – it is certain that both Judaics and Latin were quite aware of this view (there were plenty of polemical texts written over the centuries by all sides to this dispute) and that this challenge to their very legitimacy and identity was perceived as a monumental affront and, when supported by an immense and powerful empire like the Russian one, a mortal enemy which had to be either conquered or eliminated.
[Sidebar: Islam. It is interesting to note here that Orthodox Christianity, which Muslims called “Rum” as in Rome, in no way challenges the legitimacy or identity of Islam. While Islam and Christianity have plenty of irreconcilable theological differences, Muslims do not claim to be Jews or Christians. As for Orthodox Christians, they obviously do not claim to be the true or original, Muslims. Thus the co-existence of these two religions is not logically mutually exclusive even if their theologies are fundamentally incompatible].
The modern dispute
It would be ridiculous to claim that the cause(s) modern fear and/or hate of things Russian can all be explained by ancient theological arguments. In reality, neither Russia nor the West are all that religious nowadays. And while there is definitely a religious rebirth taking place in Russia, it remains also true that only a minority of Russians are truly religious or well-versed in Orthodox theology. Furthermore, there are plenty of reasons why some hate/fear Russia which have absolutely nothing to do with religion, including the fact that Russia is, and has always been, an unconquered military superpower, that the Soviet regime has oppressed millions of people in Eastern Europe and in the Soviet Union and that any more or less sovereign and independent regime in Russia stands as the main obstacle for the West to take control of Russia’s immense resources and many other reasons. As for (truly religious) Judaics and Latins, they are a small minority compared to the vast majority of largely agnostic people around them. In reality, modern russophobia has numerous independent “vectors” all contributing to a grand “sum vector” expressed in the West’s current policies towards Russia. And yet.
Regardless of the actual level of religiosity in Russia, Russia remains the objective historical and cultural heir to the Roman Empire: the First Rome fell in 476, the Second Rome fell in 1453 while the Third Rome fell in 1917.
[Sidebar: A Fourth Rome cannot happen simply because, unlike what happened with the First and Second Rome, the Third one could not “pass on” its role to a hypothetical Fourth one. Seventy years of Communist rule will forever remain and unsurmountable barrier between Russia the Third Rome and modern Russia and no true succession is now possible]
To ignore the historical importance of a Christian Roman civilization which lasted from the 4th to the 20th century would be a major oversight. Those 16 centuries have had a huge impact on the Russian culture, even upon those Russians who are only superficially religious or outright agnostic, and they still can be felt today. The same is true for what is called the “West” nowadays: what is the AngloZionist Empire if not the cultural continuation of the British Empire with the Zionist (and, thus, Judaic) element recently added to it? And don’t let the fact that Protestants and Anglicans are not “Roman Catholics” distract you from the reality that Protestantism itself is just the offspring from the spiritual intercourse between its Latin and Judaic parents, just as Freemasonry – the dominant ideology and worldview today – is the offspring resulting from the spiritual intercourse between of Protestantism and Phariseic Judaism. Whether we are aware of it or not, we live in “civilizational realms” which have ancient roots and our worldview and outlook on life are often shaped by a past which we often know very little about.
Conclusion
There is a clash of civilizations taking place. It does not primarily oppose a putative “Christian West” to Islam. For one thing, the modern “West” has long ceased to be Christian and should now be categorized as post-Christian. Furthermore, the Muslim world is not united and does not have the resources to meaningfully oppose the AngloZionist Empire. Until China, Latin America or some other civilization truly rises up to be able to challenge the current world order, Russia is the only country which will dare to openly challenge the very legitimacy of the western political system and the ideology it has been built upon. Modern Russia is both capable and willing to challenge the dominant western ideology (from Capitalism to the belief that homosexuality is a normal and healthy variation of human sexuality) precisely because of her position as the heir to, and continuator of, the Christian Roman Empire. True, for the past 300 years or so, Russia has been ruled by a generally westernized ruling elite, but that elite itself has always remained a foreign superstructure imposed upon the Russian nation which never truly identified with it. With Putin Russia has finally found a leader who does not represent the interests of the elites, but rather the interests of the vast majority of the population – hence Putin’s stratospheric popularity ratings. And that too frightens the West, especially the western elites who now feel that their rule is threatened by a nuclear superpower which is determined not to let them take over our entire planet. It is impossible to predict what will happen next. But it does appear likely to me that this ancient conflict between two fundamentally opposed spiritualities and civilizations will come to some kind of a resolution, for better or for worse, in the near future.
The Saker
Our Past Clings to Us Like Our Shadow
http://thoughtsofamisfit.weebly.com/our-past-clings-to-us-like-our-shadow.html
Russophobia is nothing special, before ww1 all European countries were phobic of eachother, Germans hated French, French hatred British, Poles hated Russians, Russians hated Swedes, ohh, the hatred between French and UK was strong, Anglophobia and Francophobia. It is nothing special or unique, for that matter Japan hated China, China hated Japan, Korea hated everyone, during ww1 British believed Germans made soap from dead soldiers.. I mean,that is pretty hardcore hate, the russophobia was nothing compared to germanophobia. So historically phobia is standard for all people, the only thing unique with Russophobia today is that almost all of Europe excluding Russia and a few other countries are under occupation by USA, and russophobia is being massively encouraged as the only way for USA to stay in Europe. The Ukraine situation really saved NATO, without that traditionalist, nationalist, and conservatives would have come to power in Europe and dismantled NATO and EU without any resistance. Now Ukraine is NATO entire raison d’etre.
“Russophobia is nothing special”? Russophobia is the foundation and lifeblood of Kievan/Lviv Fascism.
“Not Russia” is the second slogan which the CIA stooges of Lviv-centered Fascism have raised to the level of a mantra, along with ‘Moskali, na nozhi’ (“(put)Russians to the knife”).
Arguably, Russophobia (alas, the term lacks the all inclusive malevolence now attached to ‘antisemitism’) was the reason the Trotskyite, Zionist Jews, once again the servants of the oppressors, as they were in pre-Reconquista Spain, redrew the map in 1919, turning a former border region into a ‘state’.
It was one thing to have street level strife between Germans and French, or even Russians and Poles, it is quite another when at state level, Scientologist Zionists and CIA agents like Yatzeniuk promote the theory of ‘subhumans’ (Russians) and, Ubermensch (Ukrainians) which of course immediately follows.
Far from now being the “entire raison d’etre” of NATO, and the EU, the former The Ukraine has become both the poison pill and the sacrificial lamb of the West’s overweening ambitions. A ‘bridge too far’ which will likely result in the dissolution of the state which has proven that it was never worthy of existence anyway.
Ukraine is not poison pill for the west, Ukraine is like a turd on the edge of EU without any relevance at all. It has however colossal relevance to Russia.
“A ‘bridge too far’ which will likely result in the dissolution of the state which has proven that it was never worthy of existence anyway.”
-Nonsense talk, a state exists if the people want it to exist and the Ukrainian people want the Ukrainian state to exist.
Its a good thing then the the CIA consults with them.
But of course, as with Israel, you can ‘want to exist’ all you want, but if you sell your state to foreign powers and piss off all the neighbours… tough luck!
What?
Yes, the Ukrainian state is sure in for a hard time, it is hard to imagine their lives will not be miserable under the rule of banderists, it is as you say, their entire existence is literally based on hating Russia. And given that they are so closely connected to Russia culturally, ethnically, historically, linguistically and foremost economically, they are in for a hard time. Once the pipelines are finish Russia might just straight up cut off gas and oil.. Thought I doubt that Putin is a real softie.
Which Anonymous you are, first one or new one.
How stupid!
“Japan hated China, China hated Japan, Korea hated everyone”
I disagree. Japan does not hate China, China does not hate Japan. Korea does not hate everyone.
Japan feel it is “superior” than rest of Asia since 1800, That is not hate. Since US’s bombs made them surrender, so many of right winger think they did not lost the war to rest of Asia, and they also can not admit what they did in WWII. So many people concluded Since Japan has a warrior culture, they are not able to deal with others on equal bases, and may need another war to settle the order. I really think after US left east Asia, then everything will be fine.
I am all for solve the root cause and take high road. I would not sweat over how others feel about me.
Maybe hate is the wrong term,that he used. Dislike ,disdain,or “look down on”,may have been more accurate. As you said Japan has for a long time thought themselves superior. And China was well known in the past for that type of thinking as well.Calling some neighbors barbarians,and the Japanese as monkeys or dwarf people. As for the Koreans. After being dominated by China,and then Japan for centuries. I think it doesn’t take a great scholar to figure out their thinking about those neighbors.
I think most if not all people considers themselves superior to others, it seems to be a very standard human mindset, as to east asia, I know Japanese, Chinese, and Koreans all considers themselves superior to eachother and others, did you know that when China first meet Europeans, they refered to them as “white monkies”.
On that note China just passed a law banning interracial marriage for Chinese women. Doesnt really seem to be a peep in liberal media over that, imagine if France or Sweden or UK banned interracial marriages, it would be main international news for years. There would probably also be sanctions and UN condemnations.
“China just passed a law banning interracial marriage for Chinese women”
did you mean this?
http://boingboing.net/2016/06/10/new-china-law-bans-women-but.html
Talk about gullible…
Yes, that is the one, http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865656094/Interracial-marriage-in-China-illegal-for-women-but-not-for-men.html?pg=all
Too bad if it is a hoax, that would have been interesting, no need to be an asshole about it thought, but I guess that is beyond some people^.
Japan for a long time thought Chinese was superior. They advanced first in 1800s while China was dealing with internal problems, so they started to float to the clouds and lost their bearings, thought they could subjugate the whole pacific rim. The behavior itself shows they are far from superior actually. Now, they can not stand to be back to where they always be. It is more or less of one lack of proper perspective of self, and can not handle the reality.
Japanese is called barbarians because what they did to people on coast line and at sea. If one do not want be called barbarians then he should have not make a living out of robbing the cost lines and passing ships. The facts is they were short. So their name was well deserved. No one call Korean any names. they live right next to us.
Well, news to you, No Korean, whether they come fresh out of the country or not, I met hates China. They consider we are brothers, and same people. None of them has animosity toward China. They know we treated them well historically.
I really feel your pain and half baked knowledge of China and far east, and of cause, your contempt for things to do with China.
Hm, well, I think most would disagree with you that “supremacism is not hate.”
Japan has always felt superior to China and all other asians nations and all nations on earth, and why wouldnt they? They live in the lands of the gods, home of the god emperor, source of the sun.
Same with Chinese, why wouldnt they feel superior, they live in the middle kingdom, have you heard their creation myth? First god tried to make man, so he toke some clay and put it in the oven, but it became burnt and came out black and ugly, so he threw it far away(africa) then he tried again, but this time he did not keep it in long enough, and it became white and weird, so again he threw it far away(Europe) then he tried a third time and this time he did not keep it in the oven for too long so it turned black and he did not take it out too early so it became white, but he kept it in just right so it became perfect and yellow. :) Supremacism seems to be the standard mindset of all human groups.
Ever heard of the pygmies in africa? They have three main words to describe living things.
Animals that you eat
Animals you dont eat
Persons.
They use the term “Animals you dont eat” for other races, but for Aboriginal Australians which look kinda like themselves, they use the term “person” to describe them. :)
You seems know more about China than Chinese, same as bob.
Where did you get your creation myth, could it be from your culture instead? The story of creating human was originated far (1000s years) before Han Dynasty, the beginning of Silk Road over 2200s years ago, at that time, how many black or white people do you think Chinese had encountered?
I am glad you see rest world from your own culture. Here is a story for you. At end of Ming Dynasty, the country was in civil war, war loads are fighting for control of country. This specific one order his soldiers to kill everyone in the area because he was displease with some native plant hurt his tender hands.
One day, he saw a women who was carrying a older boy on her back, a much younger one was walking on his own. The man stopped her and asked her why, the women said, The older boy belong to my brother who is died. So she carry him, her son has her and he can walk by himself. The war lord was very moved, and tell her to hang a kind plant on her door, and no solider will bother her. People still hang same plant on the door for good luck at some area.
If you read Mao’s little red book, you’d know one of his big point was “put others first”. I know people think it was a myth that Chinese emperor gave other countries more than they bring in, but it was a fact.
Please do use you own culture to project and judge others, I am sure it will serve you well.
That really comes as no surprise, an enormous amount of Chinese live in crushing poverty toiling everyday in smog filled landscapes or locked in miserable factories..
The creation myth that man was made from clay is actually pretty standard among many cultures. How many non-Chinese the Chinese interacted with? Very many, given that whites actually used to live in and around the territory that is now China. People have interacted more over history then you seem to believe, and I am not only talking about a few individuals there used to be plenty of whites and turkish people living in and a,round China and central asia and still do, atleast turkish people. I think you will find that if you read Chinese history, Chinese did not live in isolation, not only did they interact with other peoples, but they also read and studied about other parts of the world, the Chinese elite back when was probably a lot better educated then the Chinese elites today, which mostly play video games and watch american movies.
I recommend in the future that you try to study your culture and history objectivily instead of trying to white-wash it as if Chinese were somehow better then others, the Chinese were just as average humans are, hardcore supermacist and xenophobic to non-Chinese. I think once you learn to look at history objectivily you will feel much less stress in your life.
“Pejorative statements about non-Han Chinese can be found in some ancient Chinese texts. For example, a 7th-century commentary to the Hanshu by Yan Shigu on the Wusun people likens “barbarians who have green eyes and red hair” to macaque monkeys”
Some conflicts between different races and ethnicities resulted in genocide. Ran Min, a Han Chinese leader, during the Wei–Jie war, massacred non-Chinese Wu Hu peoples around 350 A.D. in retaliation for abuses against the Chinese population, with the Jie people particularly affected.[2]
Rebels slaughtered many Arabs and Persian merchants in the Yangzhou massacre (760). The Arab historian Abu Zayd Hasan of Siraf reports when the rebel Huang Chao captured Guang Prefecture, his army killed a large number of foreign merchants resident there: Arabs, Jews, Christians, and Parsees, in the Guangzhou massacre.[3] Foreign Arab and Persians residing in Quanzhou were massacred in the Ispah Rebellion.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_issues_in_China
I am sure if you read more Chinese history, you can find even more faulty and nasty things Chinese did, especially when empire lost control, and rebellions ran rampant. One of many reason my most dreaded part of Chinese history was the 150 years around end of Qin.
I just read not long ago, at a rebellion in Tang Dynasty some 12-1300 years ago, quite some foreign traders were killed by rebels. On the other hand, same Tang dynasty, the empire took in more than 1 million Persians when their country were over ran by invaders. The emperor gave them Chinese surnames, including his own.
You really do not impress me going through internet finding what Chinese did wrong over the history. I can tell you a lot more, and very nasty ones too. We have a lot of books unadulterated from Han dynasty (over 2000 years ago who recorded many histories, and stories on book), to Qin dynasty. And I can assure you that you will find some very nasty ones not many Chinese scholars even aware about.
The culture revolution remind us vividly, and very fresh, first hand to many, how venerable we are, how we should be actively working on making sure not to create a condition that things like culture revolution can happen again.
So do you need the book names? Can you read ancient Chinese language?
I really feel for you. The example you give are more than 14000 years ago with one specifically commited by rebels. You could difinitly do a lot better.
I am sure Chinese are feeling very miserable and depressed since they have to work hard to make a living instead of playing video games. While they being miserable and depressed, they can not help themselves feeling superior than the rest of world.
I love all your logic.
I am also sure at time of yellow empire (2697–2597 or 2698–2598 BC) along yellow river, or before, the story tellers had race in mind, and looking at their followers, and decide to belittle some imaginary people.
China constantly defended her western borders. At the ancient times, the west was paved with white skeletons of invaders, Chinese soldiers, and traders alike. Great poems are endlessly described the grim conditions.
Calling some one barbarian can mean many things, one of them is ignorant of Chinese population to the race at other side of natural barrier. Most time we encountered them, we were trying to push them back. or the facts so many outsiders want a piece of China, and constantly cause trouble at borders. Those are barbaric behaviors.
The fact is, Chinese think every one are born equal, anyone can achieve greatness, where they came from does not matter, hence Deng Xiao Ping’s black cat white cat analogy. According to your logic, Chinese should have over thrown him because he did not mention yellow cat at all.
The fact still is Chinese treat others with equal respect no matter how weak, or small the others are, which most of other cultures still do not understand nor comprehend.
The fact still is Chinese rapid rising, unsettle many people. It is only natural. When one is fast, and ahead, he/she sure will take on more wind, or negative attention. It comes with territory, we can handle it.
Well, funny to read your comments of Chinese calling white man “White monkey when first encountered”. Then Chinese discriminate Black and white race in creation “myth” some 1000s years ago.
There is story for you, also over 2000 years old:
one man was selling guns and shields at market, He raised his gun and said this is sharpest gun one can buy, it can cut through any shields. After that, he raised his shield, and said, this is best shield one can buy, no gun can cut through it….
So mister genius, what are you trying to sell us here?!
Too dark or too light means they do not look like the people who was living along the yellow river region at the time some 3-4000s years ago. But thanks to your genius interpretation which you discredited in your first comment, you projected your self right in the Myth.
There is nothing superior about a society live in endless wars, and robbing others. One can live in hallucination, but it does not mean the others have to care, or dignified it.
As I said earlier, you should try to study your history and culture with more objectivity and less nationalism, your sort of white-washing only shows a supremacist mindset, reminds me of, Japanese white-wash their history about second world war.
Just like you white-wash your history now to fit your narrative, get over yourself, FYI all countries have been in war and robbing and murdering and destroying eachother throughout history, how do you think China was created, by flowers and unicorns? Ever heard of Sun Tzu? I give you a hint, it wasnt his ability to give hugs that made him so popular^^
“In the 20th century, the social and cultural critic Lu Xun commented that, “throughout the ages, Chinese have had only two ways of looking at foreigners, up to them as superior beings or down on them as wild animals.” [5]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_issues_in_China
Well news for you, the border expands and wans depends on the strength of government. It was never something in any chinese argument. some times, the government is to weak to control, or the regions not want to be ruled by the government. Some times we lose terterries, some time we gain them because they regions want to be part of China or brought in by others.
The examples are Vietnam, mongolian, and Tibet . when they are gone, they are gone. No need to look back.
To supplement your Chinese history by the way of Google and wiki. Lu Xun happened to be a great author we required to study in grade school. He studied in Japan, and was very troubled by the situation of motherland. He writes about, in many cases exagrated of what really happened in the country at the time. One of his greatest story was about a revolutionary was beheaded, and this poor man dipped his bun in the revolutionary’s blood, because he was told, eating bloody bun can cure his illness. This story was to symbolize how indifference Chinese was to the change, and suffering, and how poor, and backwards the country was. Did the event really happen, no one really care.
Lu Xun wrote to provoke, to challenge our thought, to make us see the different perspectuve. it is hardly white washing, let it be him, the government, or the people.
To know China is to learn the culture, the language, talk to the people. Not by Google the internet, and call people ass when they point out the obvious error. You even believe in those type of reporting only show your bias.
The fact still is, perfect illustrated by Zen He’s expeditions, Chinese government respect others, tread the locals with respect. Trade with them, and did not try to colonize to subjugate them.
I love articles like this, which resemble IEDs.
I am sending this to friends. I am sure that we will have many warm discussions about the broad sweep of history contained.
I would send it to enemies too but why throw pearls before swine?
Thank you Saker for putting it all together.
So many paths open from here and they all look inviting.
Yes, me too, knowing history is of great significance & consequence too, without it you know, understand, nothing.
The article seems to be mostly the truth, the Orthodox are the most real & original Christians, the Latins are a distortion, possibly under influence of Phariseic Judaism, in the mess which was Western Europe post-western Roman Empire. The mess might’ve been the reason that the Jews were driven out after the High Middle Ages towards the East (e.g. Poland, Ukraine, Belarus).
[‘Khazarians’ is a myth, they’re Yiddish – a German dialect – speaking Jews, although it was against their racist rel., they had intermixed with West-Europeans]
No wonder there were many rebellions (e.g. Martin Luther). Calvinism is definitely based on Phariseic Judaism, and it is no coincidence that the Jews went to the Calvinistic countries, ran these countries (Holland, Switzerland, England), and terrorized and looted the world, out of especially these countries.
A better term for the British Empire would be the Phariseic Judaic Empire.
As it is prophesied by Islamic methodology and Prophet Muhammad, the Eastern Christian nuclear power will stand its ground and fight the immoral western post-christian to the Death with a Major War that is to take place between Sham(Damascus) and Northern Syria which leads us to ALEPPO!
Written by God Almighty/ Allah in Holy Quran, the Rum/ThoseWhoSayWeAreChristians and Muslims shall have an alliance towards the end times told by Prophet Muhammad.
And HERE We are…
“But it does appear likely to me that this ancient conflict between two fundamentally opposed spiritualities and civilizations will come to some kind of a resolution, for better or for worse, in the near future.”
Nuclear WAR
Yes, the resolution is War, and it is War and it will be War and there is no other way to avenge all the innocents and Justice . Many will die but honorably some, some agonizingly for their sins.
Thank you Christian Russia, for standing with the divided but few righteous Muslims of modern Evil Age.
Rodi
Thank you, Saker, for an enlightened and informative analysis – as usual. I have only one addition to it – from my perspective. You failed to include (or expand upon) the ‘Zionist’ in AnglZionist, I think. Though you correctly pinpointed the tensions between Christians and the Pharisees (the Judaists being their progeny), you failed to mention the ancient grudge that the Khazars (who converted to Judaism) maintain against the Russians for pushing them off their lands in Southern Russia so many centuries ago and forcing them into Central and Eastern Europe where they became the root of much of the geopolitical troubles in the world today in their assuming overlordship of modern Western culture and their constant political manoeuvring to 1) establish the illegal State of Israel, and 2) to overthrow Western culture and rule the nations. The Khazars have long memories and do not let go of grudges (“Never Forget. Never Forgive.”). It would be their ultimate pleasure to leave as their last conquered enemy, the Land of Russia.
Herein lies much of the tangled roots of modern Russophobia.
For whatever it’s worth, Dostoyevsky, who was a communist before being sent to a work camp, and an Orthodox Christian after he was released, wrote an article stating that Russia should make Constantinople (aka Istambul) a part of the empire, though not a capital (the not a capital part was underscored). It was in his “Writer’s diary” I’m not sure in issue. It was pre-1917.
I think you may have meant Solzhenitsyn,who was a communist before a work camp. Dostoyevsky might have been the one talking about Constantinople he lived in the period the city was called by that name (he died in 1881).
Russia: the Salt of the earth in more ways than one?
Boost for Siberian salt mines as Russia bans Western imports
By The Siberian Times 04 November 2016
http://siberiantimes.com/business/others/news/n0798-boost-for-siberian-salt-mines-as-russia-bans-western-imports/
I agree with Saker on all counts, always do, except for one: he keeps putting down the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was a modus vivendi for the russian empire which proved right and beneficial. The bolsheviks saved the country in 1917 from an impending collapse (the A-Z had plotted the undoing of Russia then as they plot it now). The Soviet years were christian, godly existence de facto, but atheistic de jure. Soviet Union was a hard-working country that supported itself by its work, not by stealing from others. It was the last outpost of classic humanism, too. The last humanist state. Now humanism is dead. It’s all about the justification of buggery now – an evil mockery of humanism, part of the ongoing hellification of the planet. As someone who was born and raised in the Soviet Union and is proud of it, I resent Saker putting my country down, even though i agree with pretty much everything else he says.
[“The bolsheviks saved the country in 1917 from an impending collapse”]
Were the Romanovs plotting to put down Russia??
Agree in what you say about the USSR, comrade, and thank you for your testimony.
Although, I do not always agree with The Saker on all counts, and in religious matters, while I am not knowledgeable enough so as to disscuss any point with him, I find interesting what he says ( I did not know that issue on Immaculate Conception ).
The Bolshevik Revolution was a revolution of Russian people against a Westernized monarchy ( how about the travels of the Tsars and their court to France, their like for the French language and customs and, once the revolution took place, why they had their bonds and money abroad, as it happens today with the 5th column in Russia?) which mantained them not only in material indigence but also in cultural/educational one.
If it not were for the 1917 Revolution, whose anniversary I take the advantage to remind is celebrated next Monday, the Romanovs would had been overthrown anyway with the invaluable help of not so few treacherous boyars and army generals. The provisional Kerensky government was an intend of hijacking the revolution of the Russian people by the burguesie, being Trotsky their main agent. Fortunately, a bunch of brave proletarian Russians, self-made at intellectual level, since there was no other way in the Tsarist times for a person born in thee lowest classes, were aware of this treason and reacted in time.
Russia, as it is always reminded by the very Mr. Putin ( although not with the fairness it should be, btw ) would not be what it is today if it not were for the USSR.
There was no Bolshevik Revolution. There was a Bolshevik coup d’etat soon after the coup d’etat led by Kerensky which removed the Monarchy.
The best way to understand what has been presented by the victors as a ‘revolution’ is to look at Kiev today.
The so-called Russian Revolution of 1917 was the first ‘Color revolution’ staged by the Anglo-Zionist Empire. There have been many since. But they all used the same template. Foreign funding, exploiting of internal weaknesses, and the installation of juntas/Quisling governments to dismantle the subverted state.
“Foreign funding, exploiting of internal weaknesses, and the installation of juntas/Quisling governments to dismantle the subverted state.”
– But what followed under Stalin was the exact opposite : to dismantle the Quislings, even with very harsh measures. Will this happen in Ukraine ?
Perversely, having first participated in its destruction, Stalin saved Russia.
I think the West has learned from that mistake.
As “Yats [was] the man” for Nuland in The Ukraine in 2014, so ‘Trots’ (Trotsky/Bronstein) had been the man for her counterpart in the Russian ‘Color Revolution’ of 1917.
There was one more or less popular revolution in Russia in 1905. What happened in February 1917 was a coup d’Etat lead by reactionary elites. In November of 1917 these elites were overthrown by mostly Jewish Bolshevik revolutionaries who began a reign of genocidal terror against everything Orthodox or Russian and they ruled until 1937 when Stalin finally overthrew them and replaced them by an multi-ethnic mix of Stalinists who, especially in the course of WWII became more and more patriotic. The death of Stalin saw a return to anti-Russian and, especially, anti-Orthodox policies which gradually petered down roughly until Andropov whose reign was very short and whose death really ushered in the end of the Soviet Union.
That’s a hyper-shortened version, but in substance it is what really happened, at least in imho.
Cheers!
The Saker
I’ve often wondered what would have happened if Andropov had been healthy. And put in place the reforms that were talked about at that time.I doubt he would have made the colossal error of trying Glasnost and Perestroika at the same time. I remember thinking at the time Gorbachev was doing that it would harm the country (it ended by killing it).
This is what would happen:
http://web.mit.edu/slava/homepage/articles/Gerovitch-InterNyet.pdf
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“… mostly Jewish Bolshevik revolutionaries who began a reign of genocidal terror against everything Orthodox or Russian…”
This form of words appears too insinuate (I think unintentionally) that the terror was mostly Jewish (specifically Jewish in some sense) against everything Orthodox.
Would it not be more explanatory to say that Bolsheviks (many of whom were indeed Jewish) sought to impose irreligious Leninism (a travesty – not specifically Jewish – of Marx) on imperial Russia, a majority of whose population were religious (mostly Orthodox). Russian Jews were killed as well other Russians and synagogues destroyed as well as churches.
This form of words at least has the advantage of covering more of the facts with less risk of misunderstanding.
Just a thought.
P.S. Most who have left comments on this article don’t seem much interested in the religious history and doctrine. I hope this does not put the Saker off writing on this topic.
This form of words appears too insinuate (I think unintentionally) that the terror was mostly Jewish (specifically Jewish in some sense) against everything Orthodox.
Yes and no. Most Bolsheviks were, indeed, Jews and all the contemporaries know that they did share a strong hatred of everything Russian.
However,
That does not mean that most Russian Jews were Bolsheviks. Most were Bundists, Socialists, Mensheviks and many other factions and parties. This is why to say that “The Jews” did the October Revolution is wrong, while saying that the October Revolution was mostly Jewish is right.
Does that make sense?
Cheers,
The Saker
Yes, I do think that makes sense.
I also know that many Russian Jews (then as now) did not have a strong hatred of everything Russian. Even among Bolsheviks. It’s a pity they got their chance to participate in Russian civil society only when they did.
I still think my form of words less prone to misinterpretation.
Thank you for this article.
“The October Revolution was mostly Jewish.”
Please, stop repeating this nonsense which you find in Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” etc. etc. Maybe that among the elite of the Bolshevik movement the Jews were over represented. But this was because they were always willing to learn and able to write and read and were better educated than the millions of illiterate Russian (not Jewish) peasants that formed the revolutionary proletariat.
To celebrate the Bolshevik destruction of Christian Russia would make my in laws turn in their grave. They lived through it dear elsi. Your admiration from far off Spain is imho misplaced – your return after months of absence is interesting timing.
We are led to believe that the Russian revolution was a spontaneous people’s uprising, with the workers and peasants taking up their tools and driving the ‘incompetent, tyrant’ Tsar off his seat of authority -then seizing power themselves to establish a progressive regime. Nothing could be further from the truth. This revolution was a big-scale undertaking, requiring decades of careful preparation, millions of dollars to finance and skilled leadership to execute. The plan, the finance and the leadership was definitely not Russian, but foreign.
Let me repeat: A revolution needs immense organisation, vast resources, cunning and secrecy. ‘Common mobs of people uprising’ could never undertake such a complicated and costly procedure, but people with money, method and motive could.
“your return after months of absence is interesting timing.”
Interesting timing? What are you talking about? I returned the other day to defend Mororola´s honor, when, btw, I missed any of you who through these last three years have been stating that you were in favour of the Donbass fight and people ) and, it turns out that I decided to stay a bit.
What is interesting in timing is your sudden attack on me ( joining your friends in the cafe? ), when I always supported you, and when I have passed the last three years here defending the same, Stalin and the Bolshevik Revolution, I have never changed my mind, and you have never said anything against, on the contrary, you always said that “strong women like me were needed”, and so on.
Well, but let´s see if we are able to spare the personal allusions/attacks and stick to the issue.
Obviously, each one of us have their sources which we trust, you have your “in laws”, already in their graves, by what you say ( so, I can not listen their testimony ,) and most probably, Solzhenitsyn, while I have mines, other comrades who through many research have probed that, who was an agent of the West where he was received so well and where he supported fascist groups and ideas, was Solzhenitsyn. It is not true that he was ever a communist, in any case, was playing the communist to infiltrate the bolshevik ranks.
Then you have Robert Conquest, just, along with Solzhenitsyn, the origin of the dead toll, self-declared MI6 agent, already deceased. Well, who more?
And yes, right from here, Spain, I am able to be aware that any right I have in my life and in my job I owe to the Bolshevik Revolution and the USSR, because I am witnessing how these rights are being erased one after another since the fall of the USSR and how we walk at first slowly but now in progressive acceleration towards fascism.
And, obviously, a revolution needs its cadres of preapared people for to organize it and also quite some funding, and when this revolution is mainly of those of the working class, you, most probably would need to stole for your cause what is offered to you by those who always take advantage of anything to go upstairs graving power to then neutralize them, no other thing was what Stalin did.
What is not true is that “common mobs of people uprising” could never achieve anything, just this is what some of you are so afraid, that people acknowledged what is possible through number, hwen you are a mjority of the population.
When in the US the Unions were still the strong organizations once they were and have not been still disintegrated and discredited by fascist movements which, like LaRouche, have infiltrated and have taken their names to discredit them entirely with their behavior, I do not remember who the president of the US was who, after receiving the Unions leaders in the White House after days of strikes and listen to their claims, told them, “now go out there and obly me to do it”.
And this is a reality, that if we tomorrow do not go to our jobs and remain in the streets till something change, the 1% in the top know very well ( and so their paid blodhounds who would loose their way of life ) that they have nothing to do and so, this is why they gave us some rights while the USSR was still alive.
God morning, madam.
Do you have some big inner pleasure to attack people when they say something which is not tickling your ears ? If you really want, I can tell you real nasty stories from that time, lived by myself. I do appreciate the good things but not the bad ones and especially the most biggest bad one, the treason by communist elites. None of them has sacrificed his “valuable cadre” life for the sake of the well being of the people when it comes to make a choice between remaining or leaving for the post in the newly born capitalist system. Now they are big business people or/and verbose political activists – other than communists. The easier life in the west, in that time – during the USSR – was thanked to the communist parties which were active then, but where are they now ? nowhere. Things have gone and the lessons have to be learned. History fluctuates, this system will also be gone, in one way or another. Something will replace it, if will be better or worse, who knows ?
No i have not any inner pleasure and do not turn the facts, it´s me who is being attacked by a group of you. She and you are free of make your oppinion statement without making personal references to me as you are doing since tw days ago. Obviously, now I am having the opportunity to defend myself that before I had not, and this is why I left, becuse your attacks on me were published while my responses not.
If you were able to take apaprt personal refrences to me i am able to discuss your points, as I have done with Babushka and am doing with everybody else.
the treason by communist elites”
Can you certify that they were communist?
Yeltsin was son of a kulak most probably keeping great grudges towards the Bolsheviks who expropiate them.
The leaders who were really suppoting communism died almost as poor as when they started revolution, or at least, nobody can say that they were moved by money, as is the case of Lenin, Stalin, Kirov, Molotov.
Obviously, those wanting to prosper had not but to buy those willing to accept bribes.
“The easier life in the west, in that time – during the USSR – was thanked to the communist parties which were active then, but where are they now ?”
I guess in the world you mean?
Easy, erased by genocide of whole generations of young people by Cia orquestrated/supported coups d´etat, as happened in Spain, and almost all LatinAmerican countries and now in The Ukraine, where, we must not forget, the first victims where those of communist ideology, as they were those burned in Odessa´s House of Unions ( have you wondered why? ).
Or totally discredited/supplanted to the view of the masses of proletarians by CIA tools infiltrated to achieve this goal, including here those from the left who are not really leftist but are playing the role ( as were those moles in the CPSU/BR ) and far-right organizations, infiltrating, since decades ago throughout a very well planned plot, Unions and left parties.
If a party – in this case, the communist – could be infiltrated by any other organisation with the scope of destroying it, that means obviously that the communist party in that case was weak, not properly organized. In Stalin’s time, such thing couldn’t happen. Yeltsin was a member of the party of course, but there again, was his human weakness who led him to do what he did. One good point for him, however, was the installation in power of Putin. Again, even in this case, I’m not so sure if Yeltsin did know what was in the mind of Putin. Probably ( I would like to be that way) he had an instant Paul on Damascus road effect, and realized the big mistake to dismember the Soviet Union in the very last minute.
I’d point out nother (red) elephant in the room. The USSR had been the first, and most dangerous, country to refuse capitalism. This ultimate blasphemy, for the Western elites, was much worse than everything else. Not only a huge, powerful country slipped off their yoke, it was a symbol, its very existence proved everything said by the western elites was false. Even now the robber barons in the west and their lackeys keep evoking the “horrors” (many of them false) of the USSR in any occasion… because they’re still deathly afraid of the Soviet Union, the one country that dared say “no”.
Yes, precisely, and because they saw how much people in the world felt insipired and sent their workers dlelgations there to get ideas to follow the same path in their own countries.
The very comrade Stalin ,says it all in his discourse on the X Anniversay of the Ocotber Revolution, that tha major fear of the US/ West Empire was the international character of the Bolshevik Revolution and its
“The international character of the October Revolution”( In Spanish, translate, comrades! )
“Commemorating the tenth anniversary of the October Revolution, Stalin wrote the following text which was published in “Pravda” (nº255) on 6 and 7 November 1927 and
included in “Foundations of Leninism”.
https://culturaproletaria.wordpress.com/2016/11/01/el-caracter-internacional-de-la-revolucion-de-octubre/
“On 25 October 1917 the Russian calendar, November 7 in the Western calendar, the Soviet workers took power and put it in the hands of the soviets. The Military Revolutionary Committee of the Petrograd Soviet, composed by comrades Sverdlov, Stalin, Bubnov, Dzerzhinsky, and Utritski, made the following proclamation:
Citizens of Russia!
The provisional government has been deposed. The state power has passed into the hands of the Military Revolutionary Committee, which is an organ of the Soviet of Deputies workers and soldiers of Petrograd, and is at the head of the proletariat and the guranition in the capital.
The purpose for which the people has fought – the immediate proposal of a democratic peace, the abolition of private property of landowners, workers’ control of industry and the establishment of a Soviet government- are secured.
Long live the revolution of the workers, soldiers and peasants!
From that time until today, the capitalist robbers, landowners scoundrels and bourgeois parasites can only tremble at the mere mention of the words Revolution or Communism and the mere possibility that workers are emancipated from their dictatorship and retaking the control of their work and of the wealth produced for their own benefit and welfare, as happened then.
Ninety-nine years ago, in the days before that glorious date, that the Military Revolutionary Committee was preparing (since 29 October of that year, on October 17 the Russian calendar) the uprising of workers, peasants and soldiers against the provisional government, whose triumph would build a state that would change the history of the world and of the world working class: the first state built by the workers, the Soviet Republic of Russia (shortly after the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics).”
Also, on the conmemoration, next Monday, November the 7th:
“Statement on the anniversary of the October Revolution! Long live the revolution of workers, soldiers and peasants!” ( In Spanish, translate, comrades! )
https://culturaproletaria.wordpress.com/2016/11/03/comunicado-con-motivo-del-aniversario-de-la-revolucion-de-octubre-viva-la-revolucion-de-obreros-soldados-y-campesinos/
Well, sorry, the above excerpt translated, belong to the second article linked in my comment, not to the one which is located below of
I haven’t read the article yet so this might be off topic. German TV Arte recently published a report how ‘alive’ anti-russian robots work. This ‘alive’ robots produce automatic anti-russian replies on forums, Twitter, Facebook, etc. as soon as they find key words for example Ukraine.
German company for robotics found out there are more then 15.000 such softer robots representing themselves as ‘persons’ and ‘commentators’ and ‘bloggers’ . Their addressees are servers in Great Britain.
Robots have ‘alive’ social profiles with names, pictures, activities, etc. as any other person you know in real life and are signed in blogs, forums and social networks. Only on Twitter alone robots send 60.000 anti-russian replies and messages each day.
Part of a report of German TV in French version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YfHqY8N1yk
[“those Jews who rejected Christ thereby lost their “Jewishness” and the “new Jews” are the Christians”]
What became of the “jews” who rejected Christ??
AND
Wat does it mean to be “Roman”??
Yes, I have the same doubt with the concepts “Latins” and “Roman”.
Also, I am surprised by what I understand from this article is stated that Russia is the heir of the Roman Empire, and so, I think on what this empire was about, as all the empires that have been and are, say, conquesting lands and impossing thier rule over the people living in those lands and if not accepted this implied destruction for both, lands and people who resisted this conquests.
Just reminding one scene of the film Ben-Hur where Massala, just arrived in Judea, was telling how they arrived at Tyre ( today Lebanon ), how beautiful land it was and how they reduced to ashes because of the hard resistance their people had offered to the intruders, and the assesment that this would be the destiny of all those resisting the Roman Empire. I think this was happening already before the Franks took over.
https://youtu.be/5Bv5yv0n9Tc
I thought that in this blog we were all, at least, anti-Imperialist…..What sense could have to replace one empire with another….In this sense, neither Russian nor China are sending in any way any signal of wantin g to become “empires” but on the contrary, what they are interested on, as have been expressed already many times by the Russian officials, is a world of “equal and different” nations which could reach agreements in mutual benefit respecting each other sovereignity.
Some of them remained as they were. And are some of the ancestors of today’s “Jews”. Others were converted to Christianity after the Roman Empire “officially” became Christian. Many of both those groups later became Muslim after the Islamic Conquest. And are part of the ancestry of today’s Palestinians.One of the big “ironies” of the region. Where you have descendants,of very mixed peoples (European converts to Judaism),oppressing the mixed descendants of ancient Jews.Who are now called Palestinians.
For that matter, could today’s Iraqis be descended, in part, from Daniel and his friends, and the Iranians, in part, from Queen Esther and her friends? Making these “enemies” of “Israel” as Jewish, or perhaps more Jewish than, the European “Ashkenazi” Jews in the state of Israel?
Possibly,but most of the large Jewish communities in Iraq and Iran didn’t convert to Islam. I’m sure some may have. But Islam wasn’t concerned with conversions. While the Syrian and Palestinian Jews that converted to Islam mostly went from their ancestors having first converted to Christianity then Islam.Since Christians there were concerned with conversions.
Interesting, thanks, I always thought it was a class thing: The west regarded Russia as a vast land ‘o peasants, as typified later by communism, and therefore inherently riff-raff/untermensch not to mention mixed- race.
There was an article in, I think, the NYT some 2 or more years ago referring to Putin’s ‘peasant cunning’ which I thought just about summed it up.
That “peasant cunning” remark is racist and typical of the crude anti Russian humor that one sees on Saturday Night Live etc. The NYT is no source to quote these days as being at all viable in its objectivity.
V Putin is one of the most elegant, intelligent leaders on this planet.
Thanks saker, a very interesting perspective that is very interesting and informative.the cultural understanding we have as ‘westerners’ pervades every aspect of our lives and only by either exiting that culture and looking back honestly , intelligently, and frankly and /or getting the viewpoint of those from another culture can we really see the roots of our opinions and understandings, actions and behaviour.
As a student of Empire and history your post was illuminating. Thanks again.
Stein: we should stop blaming the Russians and move to nuclear disarmament
http://bit.ly/2dRBIDT
If only we were taught history and religion in that lively and explanatory way ar school! Thanks Saker!
In the mileatones I would also add 1204, the first sacking of Constantinople by the west (4th crusade) which, according to one view, marked the beginning of modern Greek identity, but also the dress rehearsal of the West’s colonual project: what hapenned in the Aegean islands, Cyprus and other areas was duplicated later in the “New World”.
This is why history matters.
@ Mikhail Spiridonov 8:21 am
Yes. Agreed.
A common trait of world elites, at least in western capitalist countries, is their utter contempt for their own people. This was most definitely the case with the Russian intelligentsia prior to the revolution. The Soviet Union was for a while the only country where this hatred was very significantly removed, if not completely eliminated. It took Stalin and the great war to accomplish it. When the fascists invaded, Russia was a pretty backward nation that only ten years before had ended a long series of internal wars and foreign agressions. They amazingly defeated the German war machine, which was backed by all the resources of continental Europe that the Germans controlled, and they defeated it, and 12 or so years after the war they were launching objects into space. Post WW2 USSR was most definitely a pretty humanistic culture. Compare the art of a painter like Aleksandr Laktionov with the degenerate productions of avant garde artists in the West (unwittingly backed by the CIA) in the west.
Unfortunately it all came down, conquered by inoculation of material envy through massive, humongous amounts of propaganda from the myth producing West, which managed to convince soviet ruling class to give the country to itself and f**k all the Russian people. What an amazing feat.
We put a lot of hope in Russia as resistence to the certified monstruosity of the zionazi empire, but let me tell you that without some coherent propulsive ideological system (as marxism definitely was) and perhaps some new cataclismic event, Russia will not be able to withstand the relentless onslaught, most of its ruling class is ready to sell the entire nation again if allowed to keep a good piece of the pie.
This site is good especially for the comments it attracts. But pretty religious iconography from the distant past is a vastly insufficient tool to provide the badly needed ideological antidote to Western putrefaction.
“This was most definitely the case with the Russian intelligentsia prior to the revolution.”
It still is, 3rd item from last here exemplifies that http://www.gks.ru/bgd/regl/b14_12/IssWWW.exe/stg/d01/07-01.htm
Saint Paul, in Romans 11, refutes your Replacement Theology. Paul asserts very clearly here, among other things, that the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable when it comes to the Jews. He also asserts in view of this that all Israel shall be saved in the end.
Other books throughout especially the Old Testament describe how this is destined to take place. Such books include Zechariah, Ezekiel, and Daniel.
Unless you want to make the biblical text mean whatever you want it to, Replacement Theology is untenable. (And thanks to Origen’s subjectivistic allegorism, many of the early Fathers DID in effect make the Scriptures mean whatever they wanted on this point.)
The ‘Replacement Theology’ is announced by the Christ to the Samaritan woman:
“The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. 20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. 25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. 26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.”
Read the old testament carefully. There are many instances where God makes it clear that if the Jews did not follow the covenant exactly and carefully, they would be cast aside.
The dissolution of the old covenant of works and its replacement with the new testament of grace is absolutely clear in both old and new testament to anyone whose eyes the Lord opens (or can master careful reading!)
Thank you Saker for this short history lesson. It seems to me that West European civilization was largely a gift from the Muslims, by way of Al Andalus, Sicily and the barbarous Crusades. In a Dutch language book *) the writer suggests that the notion of democracy was derived from the earliest West European universities who were ruled by the teachers and students together and that this way of governance was taken over with the notion of university itself with its scientific curiosity from the madrasas in North Africa.
*) Jona Lendering – Vergeten erfenis – Oosterse wortels van de westerse cultuur.
Scholarly histories of first century Judaism indicate that Jesus and his followers were part of a well-attested Judaic phenomenon also exemplified by other “charismatic” rabbis and their followers and by such as the Essenes. Jesus and his followers and the other strands of Judaism that opposed him all considered him part of Judaism. The early Church in Jerusalem considered itself Jewish and continued to practise as such, and considered gentiles ineligible.
The Christianity of 30AD was fundamentally different from the Christianity of 300AD. The argument used here against Jews applies equally to all Christians.
The description of the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages is a travesty. The argument surely does not require this bad-mouthing of opposing sects.
It would be helpful if the author could elaborate on the assertion that the dominant ideology today is Freemasonry, of which I suspect 99 percent of the 1 percenters (let alone the rest of the world’s population) are wholly ignorant.
For theists it is not possible to segregate belief in the True God from any other part of their way of life. It is therefore surely not the case that Orthodoxy and Islam can happily coexist. It is not, as claimed, logically consistent. There is only One God.
Why the obsession with the biology of reproduction and its expression across populations of humans (and bonobos and…)?
“It would be helpful if the author could elaborate on the assertion that the dominant ideology today is Freemasonry…”
Yes, I will also be glad if, even, a whole article/ analysis on this topic was written. I could understood some statement about this in the last Saker´s podcast, but I have never understood well The Saker´s podcast without a transcription, and so, maybe, I could understand bad, but seemed to me that The Saker was stating that amongst Russian Freemasons there were good and bad people. I wonder how it could be described a “good Freemason”…..
I find this topic very interesting since I had understood that a great part of the Russian diaspora, especially those belonging to the Tsarist times´ nobility, were/are Freemasons, and so, I would like their role and pretensions towards today´s Russia being analyzed by anyone skilled in the matter.
I disagree with you on that “99 percent of the 1 percenters (let alone the rest of the world´s population) are wholly ignorant”. Not for a moment.
elsi
As ever when someone says “99 per cent of …” it’s gross rhetorical exaggeration, not statistical analysis. Certainly, it is in this instance. I do think most people don’t give two hoots about Freemasonry. It would however be good to have some explanation why the Saker and others refer to it as the ruling ideology (money and power seem sufficient).
Hope You find this interesting,
http://www.casebook.org/dissertations/freemasonry/russianfm.html
Keith was killed in 1758 during the Seven Years’ War but his groundwork saw to it that Freemasonry continued to grow in Russia. In 1756 the first Russian lodge to actually be consecrated with a name was formed in St. Petersburg under the patronage of the Anglophile Count R.L. Vorontsov, Worshipful Master of The Lodge of Silence. The members of Vorontsov’s Lodge included many men who later became famous, viz: Sumarkov (author), Prince Scherbatov (Historian), Mamonov (Literary fame), Prince Dashkov, Prince Golitzin, Prince Toubetzkoy and Prince Meschersky.
That same year (1756) came the first official police investigations of Masonry carried out by the “Secret Chancellery of the Empire” who were investigating the “Masonic Sect” to determine “its foundation, and who constitutes its membership”. This had been instigated when rumours began circulating about Freemasonry’s foreign and seditious plans.
“Why the obsession with the biology of reproduction and its expression across populations of humans (and bonobos and…)?”
Whose ‘obsession’ are you referring to?
Eimar
You would be surprised how insistently homosexuality is presented here as the crowning proof of Western decadence.
“Modern Russia is both capable and willing to challenge the dominant western ideology (from Capitalism to the belief that homosexuality is a normal and healthy variation of human sexuality)”
“Normal” is obviously just a mistake. No-one, even among those who cling to “western ideology”, claims it is the norm.
That aside, the assertion seems to be that “western ideology” makes claims about human sexuality that are mistaken. The assertion is made in terms of biological evolution. It claims that homosexuality is not “healthy” in some sense (for the organism? a disease? like liver failure? or schizophrenia?). I take it that the assertion about biology is intended to support a further claim about morality, which is otherwise supported by beliefs about God – and which thus only has any weight with those who believe in the God in question.
(There are no doubt other arguments against homosexuality, but the theistic one relying on a concept of proper divinely sanctioned function and purpose is the most prevalent, and I think the one intended here).
In a world of mass poverty and starvation, threatened with nuclear holocaust and climate catastrophe, why this insistent harping on something which is not obviously the business of anyone other than the consenting parties?
No one here particularly cares what you do within the confines of your home as long as you have a signed and notarized release from the goat and you have provable provenance for the Buddha vase, the Valencia dancing slippers and the three Perry Como records.
That being said it is considered to be bad form for two members of the same gender to be seen swapping amorous intentions in public. I for one have no intention of having to explain such behavior to our children on the rare occasion they are in this area and to be honest opposite genders getting out of hand in public is distinctly frowned upon in this berg also. It’s called ‘decorum’ and is generally practiced in our little backwater village.
I believe you have just described something that will now never come to the USA, or to the Anglo-Zionist Empire – civilization.
Now you know, my friend, why I will never return to ‘the west’. Life here has lots of problems but at least it’s generally civilized. Culture here is worlds apart from USA and Europe, an older and more gentle culture. If you read my writings, while the stories are fiction and clearly stated as such the description of culture and decorum is true, at least in this sleepy little village on the harbor.
Auslander
Author Never The Last One https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZGCY8KK
I sensed all that during my/our two weeks in Crimea a year ago.
A truly remarkable place with an air saturated with history and ghosts (in the best sense of the word).
If anyone has a bright future, it is you Crimeans.
If my wife were willing, I would probably move there, or some other part of Russia tomorrow. Some of my friends have done just that.
I am reading Grishkovets right now. Your book/s are on my list.
It’s no wonder everyone wants this little island, there seems to be a special ambiance, especially in our corner. If you ever come back please let us know and we’ll show you the real Krimu and Sevastopol. Once you hear the silence and feel the the air in our little valley near the harbor you will understand all.
Auslander
I certainly will. Thank you.
Too hot in the summer for me..phew!But y mrs says was 18 degrees c yesterday out there…whereas in UK good warm weather has really dropped to frost’s, little bit snow in the north….probably like St Petersburg…..big frost tonight down south.
You could ask your final question of the West, if you can find it.
It is they that have for some reason abandoned the concept of human rights and replaced it with the championing of a myriad of minority rights- in the case of LGBT rights (they have already grown by several letters) they seem to plan to work their way through the entire alphabet of sexual deviance. No doubt, since the Clintonite elites have embraced them both W (witchcraft) and P (pedophilia) will be added soon.
The advantage to the plutocracy is of course two-fold. They can give up the truly noble and difficult concept of Human Rights and at the same time, by providing a myriad of lesser rights to ever-diminishing minorities, Divide and Rule us more easily.
It is not homosexuality per se “as the crowning proof of Western decadence” that is alarming but the elevation (almost worshipful) of minority attributes as a cheap substitute for, if not a universal, at least a national system of Human Rights.
Franz,
You’re saying that universal human rights do not extend to homosexuals because paedophilia is a crime (and witchcraft is not a thing)? Er. Is that what logicians call a non sequitur?
I was not saying that at all. Quite the opposite. I believe that a code of Human Rights should include all humans in all their variations, subject of course to laws and customs.
As Simone Weill said: “No talk of rights, without talk of obligations.’
I am not going to say that ‘some of my best friends are gay.’ But I have met many throughout my life and found that in their behaviour and outlook they were no better or worse than any other group.
Franz
Sorry. I think I see where I picked up wrongly what you were saying. I think I follow you now. Sorry for my mistake.
(I agree that it is not a matter of allowing “lesser” rights to “minorities” – but, as you say, protecting human rights for all.)
Franz,
I appear to have sent my reply off into the aether, so I’ll repeat:
Sorry, I mistook what you said.
We can agree that it is not a matter of “providing lesser rights” to minorities, but human rights to all.
Thank you LIndsay. I really like the way you put that.
I have to say, only on Saker do people lose the ‘tone’ of a conversation a bit, and yet pull the fat out of the fire instead of having a flame war. Very special place, The Saker.
“In a world of mass poverty and starvation, threatened with nuclear holocaust and climate catastrophe, why this insistent harping on something which is not obviously the business of anyone other than the consenting parties?”
Exactly.
So why have billions – literally – been poured into the promotion of LGBT ‘Rights’ worldwide, especially the re-definition marriage?
Even to the extent of Onama threatening to withhold aid from African nations?
Why was a law passed in Russia to prevent the active promotion of this ‘private matter’ through the education/health system?
Why was that sovereign Russian decision the basis for a virulent anti/Putin campaign during the Sochi Olympics in the Anglo press?
Why is Soros spending a fortune on marriage redefinition worldwide? Currently the focus is Australia.
Why is LGBT politicized and promoted so actively through media and entertainment?
Why are they demanding the right to decide what the words ‘female/male’ should signify? And why are they succeeding? Obama has threatened to withhold federal funds from states that do not implement ‘bathroom laws’ for ‘transgenders’ and corporate America is likewise withdrawing from ‘rogue’ states like North Carollina.
Why are children being asked in the UK which of thirty odd ‘genders’ they identify with?
Why is ‘s****y’ being ‘taught’ to children of it’s a ‘private matter’? Why are parents being prevented from withdrawing their children from this so-called ‘sex-ed’ and schools denied finding of they don’t implement these LGBT-decided agendas?
Why was Uganda pressured by US to rescind its ban on s****y, one of the mist dangerous and harmful of ‘sexual practices’? Is Uganda in the US?
Just how much of all of this is a
‘private matter’?
Eimar
If you are interested in the question of US co-option of human rights as a pretext for attacking those who resist it, read “Ideal Illusions” by James Peck, which recounts the whole sorry tale.
I’m sure you can see the fallacy in concluding something bad because a baddie co-opts it.
A lot of that is because the empire believes in dividing people (the better to control them). They picked that one group that they think they can use to support them 100%.By claiming to support LGBT “rights” Worldwide (except of course in pro-empire countries like Saudi Arabia) they have a whole 5th column network to support them. And as we see in the constant attacks on Russia,they are right,they do have that support.The US elite is a “big” believer in “identity” politics. It helps them control elections in the US. And now they are trying to use those same methods Worldwide. The LGBT community is only “one tentacle” of the Octopus that they use.But it is one of their must successful ones.
Not just divide and conquer, though that aspect is used to the max, its also personal. The zionazi/nazi freak show is overwhelmingly lead and run by sodomites, bisexuals and homosexuals.
Of course, you are right, vot tak. Mind control is so much easier if the identity of the controlee/slave is located between one’s legs, rather than between one’s ears.
But why did they pick *that* group?
And why is a ‘private matter between consenting adults’ being used to redefine the sexes? Human reproduction? And perverting the course of childhood through ‘health’ and ‘education’?
This is not a ‘random’ decision.
Eimar,
If you are interested in finding out more about how the US co-opts human rights, read “Ideal Illusions” by James Peck, which provides a history.
I’m sure we can agree that human rights don’t cease to be human rights just because the US has tried to co-opt them. It simply means we have to fight harder for them.
Gospel contains in itself « multipolarity » Saül (Paul) and John did not work in the same cities in ancient Greece and Middle East. Perhaps this is the meaning of the existence of 4 written Gospel expressing « multipolarity more that confrontation » …..
Seeing one commenter talking about 3D printers in the cafe, I recall seeing a documentary about this issue on Spanish TV, where, at certain time, the Spanish jounalist was visiting “Stratasys” enterprise in Tel Aviv, where they were making leading research on this field and, while passing some areas, he was told that it was not allowed filming in those areas because of “secret projects” being developed there.
Since in the Spanish investigation centers also presented in the documentary they had already achieved to reproduce skin and other human tissues by 3D printing, i recall thinking on the possibility that the Israelis could take it down some day printing the very “Antichrist” in 3D……
Scary, isn´t it?
To add to the excellent article:
Charlemagne 742-814 did a revival of Roman coining traditions. His system of Livres, Sols, and Deniers had existed from 418AD as seen in Roman code of Theodosius. This was a money of account system which established relationship between each coin value.
The basis of Charlemagne’s empire was military conquest and enslavement of subjugated peoples, mostly Saxons. Using this slave labor he restarted precious metals mining in Chemnitz, Kremitz and Rauthensberg mostly mining silver. He worked them to death. Those not needed for mining were sold to Jews as slaves, and from there the Jew’s re-sold them to Moslems.
During this period, Byzantium was governing the EAST –WEST metal exchange rates. Silver would drain from the West and Gold from the East. Cheap western silver would exchange for a lot of gold, especially in India. Said gold would buy a lot of silver in the West. This was the secret mechanism used by the Haibaru (Hebrew’s) on their donkey caravan routes.
When Rome adopted a precious metal standard during Second Punic War, is when they became under thrall to Eastern (Middle East) monetary influence. This metal standard could be controlled by way of the geographic choke point represented by the narrow Bosporus “straits of Constantinople.”
Rome moved eastward to the straights largely because of monetary reasons. She had forgotten what Aristotle and Plutarch had taught Roman King Numa in 790BC… that money’s real nature is law.
Rome’s initial civilization grew behind good law, and bronze money that was fully fiat. Bronze of that day was similar to paper – it was cheap, and its legal stamped value far exceeded the metal content. Rome initially spread quickly because people wanted to be part of a legal non-capricious civilization.
One of the things discovered after fourth crusades was all of the “precious metal” hidden in Byzantium. This metal had been consecrated to the vaults to keep gold silver ratio to 12:1. Yes, our Jewish friends still did well on their routes even with the ratio stabilized.
Once this metal was released, then the “dark ages” really a greatest depression was over. There was enough money for labor to trade their output.
Rome moved eastward to the straights largely because of monetary reasons.
I buried the main point in te body….shame on me. It is especially important for historians to understand that western Rome fell due to monetary reasons i.e. Oligarchy formation, and also moved Eastward for monetary reasons – to then control the east west exchange rate mechanism.
Correction: Lycurgus of Sparta’s Numulary system as recounted in Plutarch’s “Parallel Lives.”
You must have read Alexander del Mar… which is a good thing.
It is of interest that the inferiority complex of the West vis a vis the Eastern Roman Empire was such that no golden coins were struck in Europe during the reign of the Byzantine Empire, a prerogative of the Basileus. Even after 1204, it took several decades for the West to strike gold coins.
@Sir Humphrey Appleby
Agree it is worthwile reading Alexander del Mar, but he also deserves to be referred to in a correct way. In my opinion Alexander del MAR would not at all approve MEFEbills’ comments with regard to the jews.
Firstly MEFOBILL’s comments on slave trade comprises a topic which del Mar to my knowledge never touched upon in his writings, and which totally lacks any proof anyway with regard to the period considered in his or her comments.
Secondly, with regard to trade in precious metals by the Jews, MEFOBILL’s comments do not completely correspond with Alexander del Mar’s view on this topic either. The following citation from Alexander del Mar’s ’History of monetary systems’, Chapter II, The sacred character of gold, page 85-86, should sufficiently prove this:
« About the time that the Romans adopted the sacredness of gold in the Roman law (first century BC, under emperor Sylla) the Jews appear to have again acquired some share in the lucrative trade with India which they had formerly shared with the Greeks, and which has ever been a source of contention and hatred among the states of the Levant. The principal channel of this trade was now by the Nile and the Red Sea, and was in the hands of the Ptolemaic rulers of Egypt. A portion of it, however, went overland by Palmyra, and from this portion Jerusalem derived important commercial advantages, but, such as they were, these advantages were lost to the Jews and acquired by Rome, when, in B.C. 63, Pompey and Scaurus snatched Judea from the contentious Maccabees, and established over it a Roman government. In B.C. 59 Cicero said : ” The Senate, on several different occasions, but more strictly during my consulship, prohibited the exportation of gold”. (Exportare aurum non oportere cum saepe antea Senatus tum me consule gravissime judicavit). Cicero was consul four years previously, that is to say, in B.C. 63. ”Exportation” here seems to mean transmission from one province of the Roman empire to another, because elsewhere, in the same pleading, Cicero says : “Flaccus” (a proconsul of Syria) “by a public edict prohibited its exportation “(that of gold) “from Asia”. The introduction of the word “Italy” in Cicero’s plea for Flaccus, can only be regarded as a means of enlisting the prejudice of the judges. Here is the passage in full : “Since our gold has been annually carried out of Italy and all the Roman provinces by the Jews, to Jerusalem, Flaccus, by a public edict, prohibited its exportation from Asia”. The Jews probably bought gold (with silver) in the provinces between Judea and India, because it was cheaper in those places than in Europe. They may have bought silver in Greece or Italy, but unless their commercial pre-eminence is a trait of altogether modern growth, it is hard to believe that they bought gold in Italy, when it could have been obtained nearer by, at two-thirds the price. The penalty which this unlucky people have paid for their ill-starred attempts to share in the Greek and Roman profits of the oriental trade has been more than two thousand years of injustice, opprobrium, and ostracism.»
Absolutely spot on. For the first time in my life I am in total 100% agreement with Saker on the topics he has covered in the article.
First rate, clear and concise.
Will cause untold problems for the mentally deranged and fully indoctrinated western dupes who believe all the Roman Catholic-cum-Judaic lies.
This has to be the best article I have ever read on Saker.
Well done!
Russia will always be equated with the true power, that of the strength of human spiritual origin.
That is why people all over the world feel kinship, a common bond, a great love for this country.
Whether it be volunteer soldier’s from France or America joining the battle against fascism in east Ukraine, or with the words, deeds, thoughts, and prayers from so many parts of the earth.
The human spirit, ideals with moral substance and invincible nature, are born in Russia.
Mother Russia, born of love, to live for, and to die for.
The World desperately needs opposition to the Western Capitalist terror with its weapons IMF and Debt-based slavery. We need these people to keep resisting the West. Although every Russia I met has been dark minded, rude and fatalistic. Maybe the burden of being the only opposition to USA has its toll. Iran and China keep one foot in the west. Only Russia stands firm
“Dark-minded, rude, fatalistic”? That is not the Russia I have visited scores of times since 1966.
You must be thinking of the Ukraine. But they themselves say that they are “Not Russia”. They are starting to realize that they are ‘Not Ukraine” now either. That realization along with the total collapse of the economy and infrastructure likely explains your dark thoughts. I guess that you are Ukrainian or a sympathizer.
Successful opposition to evil, in this case the lurching grab for the ring of Zionist Global Hegemony by the Empire, only ennobles and cheers.
I have never laughed better than at the Sanctions Bar on Myasnitsky in Moscow, which opened when the West began to to lob sanctions at Russia. Every one of them has backfired and the mood on Myasnitsky reflected and reflects that all the more now.
Because “hate” is a unhealthy, over exagrated emotion most of times.
‘Dark/minded, rude and fatalistic.’
Hmmmm.
Maybe you don’t get ‘black humour’.
Or understand what history has thought them.
Or are hanging out with malcontents.
Or maybe all three.
:-)
Thanks Saker for your great article, especially for showing up the real matter of facts behind Orthodox Christianity and Rome at one hand, at second hand, the truth about the Judaic view related to Jesus Christ. As you say, this can be discussed far long and written about much much more. But what you did is an excellent piece of dropping clear water in this chaos filled glass, helping many to have a closer and other look at the past and the present.
Saker,
I am afraid if I provide the URL it’ll be marked as spam.
Just google “Reading the book “The Golden Bough” by James George Frazer I came across a theory about the crucifixion of Christ that I would like to share with you. In Ancient Roman times” and select Javijima’s wordpress blog.
The Golden Bough is a milestone book. It was published in a many-volume edition (that I guess is some thousand page long) and an abridged which is approx 800 pages long. The theory on the killing of Christ seems to have been left out of the popular edition by the author himself (you might wonder why, considering it was a topic sure to arouse interest).
It is a profoundly important work. It has been heavily edited in by so called intellectuals to remove its most controversial parts. The fact is that the Christianisation of Europe was brutal and done by the same tribe of people as the Bolsheviks and Neo Cons. Europeans already had a superior moral system before the Christians came. The forced conversions of Pagan Europe were the prototype of NGO social justice warriors.
Russian Orthodoxy is still a product of forced conversion. However it contains more prechristian morality than any other denomination. Those who follow Russian Orthodoxy actually follow a form of Slavic Paganism- Catholics and Protestants call Russians Pagans. Jewish Globalists cannot tolerate the existence of a pagan European nation. Things like washing in Russia still stem from prechristianity- Paganism required cleanliness and Russians are known for washing very often. Then Christians came and said ‘all foods are clean’ and ‘do not worry about washing’. It is alien to Russian culture.
The Golden Bough is the inspiration of Vikernes Sorcery & Paganism in Ancient Scandinavia/ Racial Nationalism. Black Metal music movement is the Scandinavian soul rebelling against Globalist Christianity and the Democratic Socialism that replaced it.
The Neo-paganist nonsense is another form of Judaism.
Anything bad -Its Jewish. Thats russians problem. They just blame it on someone else and never admit their problems are self made. Like a kid that points at anotherand says ‘he did it’ when they get in trouble. Thats why they are always 4 steps behind the west and china.
I wishes there was a like button.:-)
Glad to meet you , comrade Anonymous.
Like I said before, one has to face your past properly, own them up, then you can address them properly and move on. Otherwise, Russia will aways fights wars, dream of 20years peace, and chasing the illusion of prosperity. Somethinf you Tsars and Stalin already delivered to you. If you really think that is best you can do, well, you are welcome to it.
I am also feel very tired of this topic. If one does not want to help himself, why should we worry over him!
As a Greek and Not very religious in visible ways, in the common accepted form, these days.
Having been brought up as an ORTHODOX and also studied at school a little bit. I found out that ORTHODOXY is not just a Religion BUT A WAY OF LIFE.
We do not accept infallibility, like that of the Pope. We do not accept Tyranny as a given (examples: Greeks, Russians and Serbs, there are others of course) fighting constantly for REAL DEMOCRACY and not that declared by the Anglo-Zionists.
We accept Humanity with humility.
The successful and hidden alteration of the Official Hierarchy of the Greek Church is viewed very suspiciously by the Congregation (Ekklesia=Church). We know that they DO NOT support the PEOPLE and support Corrupt Governments, The present inaction by the High Priest is very visible.
In antithesis of the suffering of their predecessors in Asia Minor, Cyprus and Greece. The Hopeful exception still exists in the form of the Bishop of Messogeas, Nickolaos, and several other Priests such as Father Hlias when he demonstrated with The People in Syntagma Square on his quad bike. The Clerics of the Past had sacrificed themselves for their people. Today’s High Priests luxuriate in salaries from the Quislings mascarading as a Government. Because we saw the past with terrible Civil Wars, also the suffering of the Serbs, the Ukrainians and the Syrians. The Greeks look to By Pass the traps that definitely have been laid for us.
The Article is Spot on for the general public.
We shall see and hope for the best. Meanwhile we awake the ignorant.
None of this surprises me at all, in fact my analysis of what Russophobia is is completely consistent with it. The Vatican, the City of London and Washington DC are the three city-states that are the center of Evil in the World. Their connections to Luciferian Ideology and the Kabala is now on full display as their Sexual Deviancy has been exposed by the intersection of the Hastert Scandal and Weinergate. The FBI rank and file agents, already pissed off because only Hastert was exposed as a Pedophile and not all the other Ds and Rs along with the NYPD have now connected the dots leading to the Clinton Crime Machine and the Pedophile-in-Chief, “Slick Willy” (now no longer very slick) by means of Weinergate and Wikileaks. The entire Kakistocracy run by the banksters and traitors in the National Security Establishment is imploding and hopefully will result in a Singularity that will achieve a nuclear fusion type scenario and blow up the System. Prince Valdimir, AKA Luke Skywalker, with the help of his sidekick The Donald, AKA Han Solo, will pick up the pieces and build something new.
According to the anthroposopher Rudolf Steiner the deep state in Uk and USA seeks to avoid any f u s i o n of european intelligence and russian spirituality – they must have a deep insight in future of mankind, knowing that the future of civilisation will be born out of this “joint venture”.
This “Wisdom” is behind the angloamerican-zionist plot, the NATO-Plot etc – to undermine the synergetics of a (possible) russian-european Heartland.
Thanks, Saker, for your smart statement: “the modern “West” has long ceased to be Christian and should now be categorized as post-Christian”- how true ! Nevertheless, the history of Christianity is not finished yet, – once the extreme p e r v e r s i o n of individualism is over, “Christ” may be “recovered” in the core of individual life, individual mind – according to the prinicips of traditional european philosophy and spiritualism.
The slavian region will be the Schauplatz (stage) of next cultural period, after the mediterrean period will have perished in mayhem and chaos. I dont think there is any way to avoid chaos for the centuries to come, so far there is no valuable societal “system” in sight.
(Solshenizyn called it moral socialism, in his book Krebsstation)
Can you blame them for avoiding Russian spirituality. After all, Salem was such fun.
Is this a paint by Ilya Glazunov?
“I think so. mod fk”
Yes, it is. I loved this picture since I first saw it and thanks to you I found out more about Glazunov:
So fantastic!
The painting ‘Eternal Russia’, 1988, one of the artist’s central works shows us in one panorama the entire history of Russia. The painting measures 3 x 6 meters. The great artist’s genuine fame was achieved as the result of the enormous lines of visitors to his exhibits, both at home and abroad. The West German news magazine “Der Spiegel” once wrote: “He who is against Glazunov is against Russia.” The extraordinary vision of Glazunov the artist, historian and philosopher is realized in the stunningly beautiful harmony of color and his confident use of foreshortening, grouping, and compositional rhythm. The painting “Eternal Russia” is a textbook of Russian history in its genuine majesty, a song of the glory of our nation. The paintings of Ilya Glazunov are open books for all who wish to know and better understand Russia.
http://viola.bz/artist-historian-and-philosopher-ilya-glazunov/
Thanks for the link !
Reading this post and connecting it with my initial research on Islamic eschatology related to Imran Hosein’s work, I have to say that this “rebirth” taking place in Russia makes me really excited and anxious at the same time.
Excited that I am living in the days where I am actually witnessing the transition of Russia ruled by the Godless Western system (Communism and the Western imposed constitution) to the Orthodox Christian Russia (Rum as prophesied by the Prophet of Islam).
The Saker says:
“the Muslim world is not united and does not have the resources to meaningfully oppose the AngloZionist Empire”.
And this is indeed true. The Muslim world is battered and like a boxer bleeding and hurt, leaning on the ropes of a boxing ring while absorbing hit after hit.
Thank God that I am witnessing the truth, and I was not born for example 50 or 100 years ago. Yes, it is a painful period being a Muslim now and watching the blood-bath taking place on behalf of the West and the corrupt (whether Western allies or not) within the Middle-East, but seeing the truth unfold in-front of my eyes and knowing where we are heading gives me a sense of relief and joy that the truth will eventually prevail even if there are hundreds of years left until our beloved Jesus (peace be upon him) emerges.
However, of course I am anxious for what is about to unfold, how the world order will completely be transformed and what is awaiting the next generations.
Dear Saker
It would appear that you are not aware of the part of the Christian Church (that called Christian correctly) known by themselves as Strict and Particular Baptists – in the UK the Gospel Standard baptists follow closely to their beliefs. These follow the apostle’s doctrine (and are thus non-denominational) and were around prior to the establishment of that anti-christian sect called Roman Catholicism. These Christians were massacred by the RC’s on the arrival of the so-called saint augustine in Britain but, as Christ said, he will have his people in every age and thus they have survived, albeit as a small remnant.
These Baptists are and have always been aware of the truth of the founding of the RC church and its illegitimacy (and heresy) and are aware of all you have mentioned in respect of Judaisim. Furthermore they consider the anglicans to be little more than papists and presbyterianism as a confused mish-mash of old and new covenant theology.
You may be heartened to find out that even in the decadent west there remains a remnant faithful to Christ and his teachings.
“You may be heartened to find out that even in the decadent west there remains a remnant faithful to Christ and his teachings.”
Don’t worry, he gets his revenge in the end http://www.desiringgod.org/articles/five-truths-about-the-wrath-of-god
“2. God’s wrath is to be feared.
God’s wrath is to be feared because all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). God’s wrath is to be feared because we are justly condemned sinners apart from Christ (Romans 5:1). God’s wrath is to be feared because he is powerful enough to do what he promises (Jeremiah 32:17). God’s wrath is to be feared because God promises eternal punishment apart from Christ (Matthew 25:46). “
Saker,
Thanks for your quick – though well encompassing analysis of the Western elites hatred of Russia. I agree that the present hatred of Russia is due to its being the seat of original, Christian culture, and Putin and his countrymen’s defense of same against the evils of the “New World Order” is the more recent display of their vitriolic hatred of not just Putin, but more specificaly the Russian people and its’ culture today.
However, I will quickly here argue something further, in the hope that you will better understand the unmitigated desire of the Anglo-Zionist empire to destroy the Russian nation and Spirit once and for all.
Towards that end, I would highly recommend you watch the more than several hour documentary entitled “The ring of Power”. It is a presentation based upon the confessions of an elite member of the British royal bloodline, who has chosen to exculpate herself from the evils into which she was born, and educate the world about the true reasons the elite of the western world behave as they do towards we, the lesser species among them.
Have you even wondered why the Queen of “Great” Britain’s coronation occurs over the supposed “Stone of Jacob”. And their flag is called the Union Jake — English for Jacob – symbolizing the unification of the descendants of Jacob under its order. Upon coronation she was handed a crown of twelve diamonds in a circle, with another, much larger placed in the middle signifying the union of the twelve tribes under her domain. Her cousin sits on the throne of the Netherlands, and another sits over the Danes, who came north through the Danube and originally claimed their origin from the Family of Dan, a descendant of Jacob. Why do you think such hatred of Russia and Putin springs from the City of London, and the lies and cover-up of the shooting down of MH17. The word Vikings never was mentioned in old texts, but after seeing the documentary you will understand what was meant by the 6th kings, or, VI Kings.
The documentary further elaborates the complete infiltration of America’s political and financial hierarchy into this cabal. Since the public execution of JFK, and its subsequent cover up, their power in the USA has been magnified to the point of threatening all humanity.
Further, one does not truly understand the financial politics of either George Soros or the Rothschild and Rockefellers, nor the power of the neo-cons, without an understanding of the bloodlines and their true demonic/talmudic heritage. One will also more easily understand the ascension to power of America’s Bush and Clinton clans, as well as Obama’s rise to power, once one sees and understanding the power of the bloodlines.
With the information contained within the “Ring of Power”, I am confident you will also more fully comprehend the power and true purpose of the Bolsheviks, as well as the more recent Russian Oligarchs, along with America’s neo-cons. You will also more clearly understand the continuing alliance of Anglo-america with Israel and the House of Saud, witnessed today in Syria, and confronted by the Russian/Arab/Persian alliance. Once more the remnants of the Ottomans may swing the balance in this continuing battle – assuming things do not go nuke.
The Romanov’s were a distinctly different line carrying a distinctly different heritage than that of Western Europe’s blooded elite.Thought they successfully eliminated the Romanov’s, they have yet to destroy their heritage, which survives still today in the the Russian Soul. You will much better be able to defend that Soul once you more fully understand your enemy.
I am of English and Irish descent, 17 years Roman Catholic education, which I announce so as not to be thought an Eastern European, anti-Semitic, Anglophobe.
As much as all this is true or not, it doesnt matter. The effect is the same.
Fact is – UK, USA, Netherlands, Denmark, Portugal etc are all OCEANIC, MERCHANT societies.
Russia, Germany, Central Asia are LAND, AGRARIAN societies.
France and China are half and half between the two systems.
Sea= trade, Individualism mild weather, profit, slavery, pirate mentality etc
Land= co operation, cold weather, collective solutions, mutual benefit
These two methods of civilisation are always going to be at risk of war against each other.
Interesting thought cheers.
This is an interesting piece. However, I firmly believe that the schism between Catholics and Protestants (e.g. the Thirty Years’ War) is more significant then that of Catholics and Orthodox. Many Protestants still hate the Catholic church more than anything on Earth. Most do not even care or realize that Orthodox Christians exist. I know this well, because I’m an ex-Protestant turned pantheist. ;-)
@modern “Judaism” is not the religion of “Abraham, Isaac and Jacob”
Indeed. But not just ‘modern’ Judaism is not the religion of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but ‘Judaism’ as such.
It must be stressed (recent studies like Steve Mason’s ‘Jews, Judaeans, Judaizing, Judaism:
Problems of Categorization in Ancient History’, confirming what was always known) that:
“There was no category of “Judaism” in the Graeco-Roman world, no “religion” too, and that the Ioudaioi were understood until late antiquity as an ethnic group comparable to other ethnic groups, with their distinctive laws, traditions, customs, and God. They were indeed Judaeans”.no ancient Hebrew or Aramaic words map closely to our “Judaism…
The Yehudim were known from the time of the Babylonian Exile (ca. 586-537 B.C.E.) as the people of Yehudah, or the region was known as their place, but there was no corresponding system of Yahadut: Yehuda-ness or Yehuda-ism, or Shaye Cohen’s “Jewishness…
the Greek and Latin words that appear to correspond, namely ᾽Ιουδαϊσμός and Iudaismus, have a different and peculiar history. The Greek is used four times by one Jewish author in the unique situation of the 160s B.C.E., or by his epitomator some years later (in 2 Maccabees), and once by an author inspired by this work (in 4 Maccabees). It turns up again in Ioudaios-authored compositions only in two
third-century C.E. inscriptions. The term does not appear at all in the large Greek-language corpora by Philo and Josephus, who both wrote extensively about Ioudaioi and their ways, or in literature by any of their compatriots. Greek and Latin authors mention the Ioudaioi and their laws or customs dozens of times, but it did not occur to them to invoke ᾽Ιουδαϊσμός / Iudaismus. Why not? …though the apostle Paul and Ignatius initiated Christian usage in narrowly restricted contexts, Christian writers from 200 to 500 C.E. did employ these terms liberally….
The virtual absence of ᾽Ιουδαϊσμός from non-Christian Greek and Latin authors—all gentiles and all Ioudaioi with the exception of two small texts and two late inscriptions—already indicates that the term’s meaning or connotations restricted opportunities for its use. It could not, therefore, have meant the “Judaism” that we so readily employ…
᾽Ιουδαϊσμός is not a general term for “Judaism,” but rather a certain kind of activity over against a pull in another, foreign direction [like ῾Ελληνισμός, or Christianismos].” At present ‘Judaism’ is opposition to Christianism.
In short, Iudaismos has really the meaning of following the traditions, beliefs, practices of the Iudaioi, Judaeans, the people from the region called Judaea, which separated from the House of Israel. But in the Evangelical context, the Jews are the people condemned by the Christ because of their straying from the ‘religion’ of the ‘House of Israel’ and of the Prophets:
“…the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands? 6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition…(Mark, 7, 5-9) and ‘ for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you’ (Matthew, 5, 12).
Christians are not the ‘new Jews’ but the ‘New Israel’. It must be stressed also that ‘Zionism’ is an integral part of ancient ‘Judaism’. The ‘modern Jews’ remained as Jews as they were in the time of Christ.
Thanks a lot, WizOz, for a most interesting and much needed clarification!
The Saker
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There are conspiracies within conspiracies within conspiracies where this topic is concerned, on the issue of the ‘Jews’ & who they actually are – well, one of the most sensitive hidden facts about the Jewish Holocaust during WW2 is that this was in part, an internal cleansing operation promoted by German Jews who exclusively constitute the so-called ‘Jewish’ financial elite in the world. Prior to WW2 Germany was said to contain 500,000 Jews, about 150,000 were killed in the Holocaust, but 350,000 escaped in the years leading to WW2. The objective was to homogenise the Jewish population of Europe by eliminating Eastern European ‘Slavonic’ Jewry & to monopolise control within the Jewish element of the global Zionist network. The Germanic Jewish cabal is essentially a sect of German converts to this fake form of Judaism, call it Talmudism, as a form of a Masonic cult which just so happened to authorise usury & slavery & murder. A kind of latter day medieval mafia working for German nobility, the Rothschilds for example apparently started out as account managers for the Landgraviate of Hesse-Kassel, the founder of the dynasty Mayer Amschel Bauer being assigned to this role by the Oppenheimers, whose money management operations go back to the Venetian Republic & are subject to the so-called ‘Black Nobility.’ All of this ludicrously gets written off by the fake left as conspiracy theory, when it is in fact conventional history, not even hidden, you can read this stuff on bloody Wikipedia. Put together the dots though & it will soon become apparent that this Anglo-Zionist Empire is in fact an Anglo-Germanic Empire, where the Zionist network brings together the Anglo & German element to create a Nordic supremacist imperial entity, generally referred to as the ‘West.’ It is this Zionist network that helped spread German nobility throughout Europe, infiltrating one country after another, including England, where following Cromwell’s shenanigans the British monarchy was infiltrated by the German noble house of Saxe-Coburg Gotha, with Zionist cash helping along the way, along with a bit of fixing & blackmail & the usual murder or two. It remains so to this day, they merely changed their name to Windsor to sound English during WW1. This is pretty much open history, but it is a huge conspiracy that practically no one talks or writes about, & it explains alot of what is happening today, in particular with the NATO war on Russia & the grand project to transfer US military hardware, personnel & part of the white population to a Greater ‘Eretz’ Israel which is to come. If it is not stopped in its tracks.
Mr.Saker, it is so refreshing to read your analysis regarding the Talmudic Jews, the Roman Catholic/Protestants and the the True Christian faith which is found only in The Holy Orthodox Church. As a convert to the Orthodox Church (after having been raised Roman Catholic and then converting to Sola Scriptura Baptist Fundamentalism later in life… before finding the True Church), I rejoice in seeing the truth plainly stated in your analysis. God grant you many, many, years!
Sorry Saker but I disagree with you.
If you and for that matter Russians knew what about the Russian and Jewish past lays hidden in Allepo you might drop your dogmas harder edges.
The thief on the cross beside Christ was not Orthodox or Catholic and any other denomination.
If a man believes in his heart on confesses with his mouth that Jesus is Lord he will be saved.
That is what is written Saker.
And consider this too Saker:
“Therefore oh man you are without excuse for the very creation testifies to the fact I AM.
No Orthodox or Schismatists involved in that statement either but it is written in NT.
You are in error Saker.
Don’t let your love and fear for Russians get skewed wrongly into splitist venom.
In Christ hear the story again of the Samaritan and see many a man outside Orthodoxy spoken of by your Savior with warmth and and warnings for the snob core of every one of us and our groupings.
Thank you, Saker, for a great article. The hidden wheels of history are fascinating, and grind on in silence. I wonder, though, if some of the origins of this ancient conflict can be traced back further.
(TL;DR: the battled facing us is ancient egypt vs ancient sumer, with sumer being the culture of pesos, satanists, and duplicitous money changers.)
Muslims believe that Isaac was not Abraham’s son, but the Pharoah’s, for which Genesis gives some evidence, if you are willing to believe that the episodes in the Book are not always chronologically arranged (as, for example, Ishmael’s story.) In that case, two things become clear: why Abraham wanted to kill Isaac, and why Jews favor maternity over paternity.
Abraham, was of course from Sumer. Of the 4 ancient civilizations for which evidence exists, only one had a reputation for attempting global conquest. China has always been about China, and their greatest accomplishment was to build a wall to keep enemies out. Nor India, nor, I would argue, Egypt. Sure, border buffers and squabbles and internal struggles, but not the conquest of a continent. But Sumer is different. From the Assyrians to the Persians to Islam, the peoples who have inhabited central to western Asia have quite the track record of trying to conquer the world – usually headed westward. Alexander’s conquests can be seen as a reaction to the Persian assaults in generations past. Or, you could argue, they inspired him. Since the Greeks got their ideas from Egypt, was this a form of proxy revenge?
This leaves us the Jews. They were slaves of Egypt and exiles in Babylon. To whom do their loyalties lie? Initially Egypt, but perhaps after that, Babylon. Christ’s first action was to flee from Herod to Egypt, where Egyptian Christians have painstakingly mapped out his route. How did Herod know that Jesus was born? Three magi from Sumer showed up and told him…as if these three Wise Men didn’t know the reaction their query would elicit.
As far as freemasonry is concerned, it is rumored that Donald Trump is a freemason, and he is anti globalist. The USA being founded by Masons, and that we have the Eye of Horus and the Great Pyramid on our currency. I would tend to doubt that the Masons are globalist in that sense, or those that are have been coopted (P2?) Or perhaps its Scottish vs. continental masons?
Anyways, maybe this is lunacy, but it would make a hell of a great Dan Brown novel.
According to an Russian disapora author, Freemasons of all countries have always got along very well and they remain, since ages, meeting from time to time, each time in a different country. Amongst these Freemasons, of course, he includes all the Great Masonic Logias from Russia.
I guess not needed to say that the author is strongly anti-communist…..
You almost get the impression the writer believes in God, almost, but not quite. Excellent review.
The article provides some scope for learning as well as for thought. This is especially true for me who is neither Christian, nor Jew or any of Abrahamic religion.
– Never thought before that Christianity connects itself to Roman Empire ! Now it becomes more clear to me.
– The divide among Jrw and Christian groups was not well known to me.
– The idea of “Chosen people / Race” looks absurd to me. But anyway, that’s my own belief !
– The idea that people following a particular religion will reach Heaven may be considered quite spiritual, although this contradicts my belief in Karma. However, the idea that these “Chosen people / race” has God given approval to Rule the Earth cannot be a Spiritual thing. It is much more mundane.
– I remember that sometimes in 15th Century (probably), the Spanish and Portuguese empires had “divided” the then known world amongst themselves ! Like this earth and other “non chosen people” are just there for looting ! Frankly the idea is not a very benevolent idea for others.
– Regarding hating/disliking others and having Superiority complex is a part of human psychology. When self assessing ourselves, we always give superior grades to ourselves even in areas like Athletics etc ! This is also backed by our memories of past glory of our people. Many ideologies (Islamist and even Communist / Captalists) try to distort past histories and glories of other people – just to weaken the memory part. A group of people with Inferiority Complex much easier to enslave.
Good observational points, Chakra.
Here’s a perspective that may bridge East and West for someone besides me, grounded in the concept of universal Natural Law:
Do no harm to the rights of other beings, either in thought, spirit or body.
This concept can get dicey in terms of food requirements, and sanitation requirements (rats, insects, etc) of the human being, but should be simple enough to follow with other human beings.
Evidently it is TOO simple, though, and it is qualified in all sorts of writings of inferior forms of man-made “law” permitting violations of the rights of others by some privileged ones.
I recently spent many hours trravelling and working with a Mexican construction foreman of pious non-Catholic Christian persuasion. We discussed all manner of moral and societal issues and he almost always had a ready piece of scripture to refer to, in his I-Phone.
He would frequently puntuate his points with: “Es escrito!” It is written!
Most of what was written was in conformity to Natural Law. But is all of it, in all versions of all scriptures???? I highly doubt it. In fact, I am positive there are many, many violations or fallacious interpretations, even when the text COULD be in conformity with Natural Law, and there are other things that “are written” that do not deserve blind, rote acceptance or obedience.
Written? By whom? For what purpose? What was left out? What was added in that shouldn’t have been added in? What serves mind control, slavery, and ignorance, leading to violations of Natural Law rights of oneself and other beings? What serves love, freedom and higher knowledge?
A great deal of it. IMHO, but not all of it. For it was written and altered by human beings, and is imperfect, for it is very frequently contradictory.
Brilliant! I won’t attempt to make a qualification with my remarks, nor to add anything more.
May I revert to the subject of your article, which I find extremely interesting. I’d already read your other articles on the subject, but this brings it all together again. Having read your previous articles, I recently read Douglas Reed’s “The Controversy of Zion”, which (as you do) links the past with the present (in the 1950s). I wonder if you have read this book, and if so, I would like to hear your comments. I personally think he greatly overestimates the long-term influence of “Jews” in the Soviet Union. Stalin was not Jewish and he eliminated a great many previously important men who were. In Reed, you can see how, in his period, fear of Jewish power could get confused with fear of Russia. Nevertheless, Reed was a remarkable writer and he paid the price of being completely blacklisted from the fifties on.
What bought all these new commentators out in the open?
Could it have been Halloween?
I am wondering the same, Babushka in Oz, especially those telling the hell about China, whom here had always been supported ( I can not but remember “the double helix Sino-Russian alliance” White Paper, or something like, by Larchmonter445, but, well, this was almost three years ago ), and also those telling about “mercenaries of the Syrian-Russian coalition”, in the last “war news”, to who, anybody, apart from me, have answered neither a word. Curious, to say the least, yes it is.
Perhaps, yes, it is Halloween, but, this celebration has not finished yet?
Halloween is a western distortionist event and comes from the hallowing of the dead and of the saints. ‘hallowing’ being to make reverent or religious observance of those who have crossed the threshold from life into a greater world or dimension.
Anyway, this Celtic festival celebrated, on 31st of October and called Samhain, celebrated the great whole of life, on earth, and that of after death/before birth.
Over a thousand years ago, long before the founding of the Orthodox church in Russia, Celtic spirituality spread, influencing both Europe and all of Russia.
Hi elsi,
It is perfect OK for people to point out my error, or give suggestion on where I need to improve. But this Anonymous is a MSM eating google warrior. They are dime a dozen.
Most of times, I do try to avoid engaging them. China is not any better or worse because what they say or not say.
Brilliant! Therefore Russia is the true Third Reich?
On your marks, ready steady-go?
NATO puts 300,000 troops on ‘high alert’ in readiness for a confrontation with Russia as fears grow Putin is preparing to attack the West
Nato chief Jens Stoltenberg putting 300,000 troops on ‘high alert’
Military intelligence are worried about Putin’s new Armata battle tank
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Nato chiefs, thrown into a panic by fears that Russian President Vladimir Putin might attack the West, are scrambling to put together a force of 300,000 troops which they can put on ‘high alert’.
Relations between Russia and the West have plunged in the last year, with Moscow’s insistence on backing its Syrian ally, President Bashar al-Assad, at all costs leading to serious tension with the US, Britain and France.
Most Nato members cut their defence spending dramatically since the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 but Russia has been bolstering its military capabilities, holding parades involving more than 100,000 troops each year.
Nato soldiers stand on a pontoon bridge constructed across the Vistula river in Poland during the NATO Anaconda-16 exercise earlier this year
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Nato soldiers stand on a pontoon bridge constructed across the Vistula river in Poland during the NATO Anaconda-16 exercise earlier this year
Moscow has been throwing its weight around in recent years – in 2008 Russian troops humiliated the Georgians and in turn the White House by invading South Ossetia and Abkhazia in support of pro-Moscow rebels.
Then in 2014 Russia annexed Crimea and supported ethnic Russian rebels in the eastern Ukraine.
President Obama’s ‘Russian reset’ policy, which was designed to improve relations with Moscow, has looked increasingly like a policy of appeasement.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3912398/NATO-puts-300-000-troops-high-alert-readiness-confrontation-Russia-fears-grow-Putin-preparing-attack-West.html#ixzz4PKWdsqiU
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oh, shame has box gone back to its greyed out syndrome in draft??
RED ALERT: Nato puts 300,000 troops on ‘HIGH ALERT’ amid fears of all out confrontation with Russia
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/729453/nato-putin-russia-war-troops-military
NOTIFY THE SAKER ASAP, SOMEONE!!!!!!!!!!
An amazing article, one that neatly summarizes thought that was going through my head at the time that I walked out of a “Roman Catholic” mass in the middle of a heretical homily extolling the virtues of La Raza by the Berkenstock sandaled, Hawaiian shirt wearing apostate who posed as Pastor. On that day I was forced to honestly confront the assertion that the voice of the shepherd was silenced in that place, and if that was the case, then whose voice was I really hearing? Problem: my own research, in harmony with the research Saker presents here said with in the walls of Roman Catholic cathedrals built all over the world, the voice of the Babylonian Mystery School was being kept alive, and promoted via mind control to subvert and mislead the flock, who had never truly heard the voice of the Shepherd. Solution: “Come out of her, my people.” Conversion to the Orthodox Christianity, the true form of Christianity first brought to the Celts in Galatia, and later in Ireland, my beloved Ireland. Saker is right: RC brand of Christianity is a “Johnny-come-lately, that frequently throughout history has betrayed and abused the people of God.
“The same is true for what is called the “West” nowadays: what is the AngloZionist Empire if not the cultural continuation of the British Empire with the Zionist (and, thus, Judaic) element recently added to it? And don’t let the fact that Protestants and Anglicans are not “Roman Catholics” distract you from the reality that Protestantism itself is just the offspring from the spiritual intercourse between its Latin and Judaic parents, just as Freemasonry – the dominant ideology and worldview today – is the offspring resulting from the spiritual intercourse between of Protestantism and Phariseic Judaism.” – You must be thinking of Calvin, and not Martin Luther, who condemned the Jews repeatedly. The legalism (which early Protestantism was devoid of) of Calvin, led him to approve of lending money at interest, and the Dutch guilds took him up on this and developed an economic system called “capitalism” which has some bearing on this discussion. This brought in the Judaic element. Luther vs. Calvin can be seen as the main dynamic in the West.
In the comments, lots of people are talking about hate. Hate can be an engine but usually, it drives the one being possessed by hate to hell. I can understand dislike, anger but not hate. I consider as criminals those trigerring hate against any group. It is not because I do not want to live among some communities that I have to hate them. Today I am against the Anglo-Zionists Empire which is managed by liars, thieves and murderers but I do not hate them.
agree. I have pointed this out before, and now I am no longer talking about it. I let someone else waste their live on hate. I take high road.
Illuminating article. I had missed the earlier Saker’s review of Guy Mettan’s book on historical Russophobia, that I will now read.
I add here to the point about Jewish russophobia being omitted from Mettan’s book. Recently, almost by chance, I had occasion to look at some presentations by David Irving, a name I knew, of whom I had a book “Churchill’s War,” but had not yet began to read it. I have have and am currently reading his “The Destruction of Dresden,” the allies’ carpet bombing of this German city, less than two months before the end of the war. Where the conservative estimates of the civlians dead is 135,000 almost the double of Hiroshima.
Irving, UNLIKE ANY OTHER HISTORIAN OF WWII, relies for his information on actual documents. And, since he is fluent in German, he has spoken and recorded interviews with actual ex-members of the civil service under the Nazis, widows of Nazi bigwigs, domestic helpers, even Hitler’s driver. Plus a host of citations from diaries of politicians, military, cabinet members, both German and frome the allied camp. etc. He travelled to Moscow and got a copy of Goebbel’s diaries etc.
The persecution that Irving has been submitted to by the Talmudist cabal is extraordinary. I will list a few of his videos here and I invite readers of The Saker’s posts to watch them.
Here is a man with true and real courage. Unlike the vicious and infamous propaganda he has been target of, he does not deny some of the atrocities connected with “the holocaust” (by the way born as a label in 1972, 26 years after the end of WW2), but only points out to undeniable historical facts and factual inconsistensies with the accepted vulgata. When invited to speak at universities, notably in Germany, Austria, Canada he has been actually arrested and kept in prison for months in solitary confinement. He is a scholar and the opposite of a fanatic or fascist or nazi apologist.
In the United States, his invitations have been canceled by this or that university, often at the last minute – under pressure and blackmail by we know who.
All this supports the reason of the extraordinary omission in Mettan’s book, as reported by the Saker. Not only, but it shows the extent of the grip of Talmudism on the western world, and the abject connivance and submission by their de-facto servants, in politics, academia, media and just about everywhere else.
Great piece Saker,
I especially like your depiction of the Roman and Pharisees strain in the West. And I understand the Russian view of them selves as the heir to Rome, but I don’t quite agree with it. Rome was always a twin (Romulus and Remus); probably originally a Greek colony (Greek cities in Southern Italy and Syracuse in Sicily). When Rome took the Greek world in 146 BCE, these two twins were reunited. Wikipedia calls this period Roman Greece, which they say ended in 330 with Constantine. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Greece). What came after Constantine bore little relationship to what came before.
What seems to make Rome ‘Rome’ is the will to Empire, to dominate. Greece empired through Alexander, but it died with him. Rome was able to institutionalise the Empire, so that it endured. You could argue that the Russians ‘Romed’ during their expansion West to Poland, South to the Crimea and East to Vladivostok. And the West has certainly ‘Romed’ all over the world the last 200 years. I would argue though that Byzantine didn’t ‘Rome’ during their 1000 civilization; that while they were always the cultural heart of the Roman Empire, they lacked the will to dominate. Hence they allowed camel riders and goat herders to take the Christian heartland.
Roman civilisation was always Greek, even in Italy, but that Greek culture is not what made it Rome. I like the meme that originally the Romans were liberating and exporting a more civilised, Republican model which appealed to the conquered people; a little like Napoleon. I like the vision of Julius Caesar standing next to Cleopatra looking over her wealth and subjects on the Nile, and a little germ of evil entering the Roman bloodstream. At the same time in Palestine, the Anti-Caesar was born. That in the end, power and greed took away what was good about the Empire, and portended her doom. And that spark of light in Palestine ended up bringing the Empire to its knees.
Rome in the end was not the engineering, the philosophy, the polity or the culture; these were Greek. Rome was the imperial military dominating her neighbours, coupled with the greed and inhumanity that goes with submitting others to your will. Quite obviously the West is the modern inheritors of Rome, not Russia. Russia may be something more important, more precious in these dark days. There is something vital buried in the heart of Russia, a spiritual strength that is hard to qualify. If the light of the original Christians is being kept alive somewhere in the land of Rus, This is something to hope for. One Rome is more than enough what we need is the Kingdom of Heaven (on Earth)
EXCELLENT..!!!
On religion Saker, http://theduran.com/why-communist-gennady-zyuganov-brings-shame-upon-liberal-atheists/
To the Saker: Yesterday I made two comments, one concerning “hate” has been published and the other censored. The one censored may have offended you but it still deserves some attention or some critics. I was saying:
Jesus was not the first Jew to pretend to be the Messiah, the one expected and still expected by the Jews to restore the power of Israel. As Jesus was put to death, he could not be the Messiah, for He was unable to restore the power of Israel.
St-Paul knowing all this, generates a new story: Jesus was the son of God sent on Earth. His sacrifice was done to erase the original sin to re-establishing a links between God and the human beings. His resurrection was the proof of his being the son of God.
Of course the Jews could not agree with such assumption because, the Jewish God is not a Greek one having some adventures with human creatures and God is one not two or three. In addition God had already made an alliance with Abraham, long after the original sin. Talking of a second alliance let us believe that God did not do a good job with Abraham and He was taking a second chance. For a Jew and for me, it does not make sense.
I will not discuss here the Crucifixion special procedure for Jesus nor the Resurrection testimonies to spare time.
The succes of the Christianism is due to the Emperor Constantin who undesrtood that he could use this belief to control the body and the soul of his subjects. At that time the Emperor was the chief of the Church. Later Rome and Byzance went quarelling for power’s control. The divergences concerning the dogma’s interpretations were artifacts to build the animosity between Rome and Byzance. The Pope in Rome was fighting the Emperor in Byzance and I am not sure that anyone of them was really believing in God. Nasrallah is saying the same for the Muslims. Most of their internal wars were made for personal ambition and they have been using the holy books to substantiate their claims.
I am fighting all this internal quarrels between the Christians or the Muslims which have been very costly to the humanity.
Christians and Muslims have inheritated a God from the Jew who is an arbitrary tyrant requesting that his subjects adore him. This God is an human projection of the numerous despots we have had on Earth. Eath is pretty close to Hell considering the overall suffering and injustice, so the God created by men is probably close to the Devil. I think that this God is looking like Moloch. He is a wrong conception of God, that is why I am fighting this superstitions. Our understanding of God can be rational and you do not need a theologian to help you getting in communication with God.
This is a wonderful essay, and consistent with many thoughts I have had over the years. Surely, Moscow, before the Bolshevik Revolution, was the Third Rome, succeeding Constantinople, which had fallen in the fifteenth century. This point is also well articulated by M. R. Johnson, in his book: “The Third Rome: Holy Russia, Tsarism, and Orthodoxy”. I also seem to recall having read that the Russian throne was twice wed to the Eastern Russian Empire, before the demise of the latter. And while that is probably more a concern of what you point out as the elites, it is certainly true that Tsarist Russia was the cultural heir of the Roman Empire, with a direct line of continuity of religion between the two. I even recall having read years ago the opinion voiced that the slaughter of the Tsar and his entire family by the murderous Bolsheviks could be a manifestation of the removal of “he who constrained the Anti-Christ” identified in the Book of Revelation. And surely, since the end of the First World War, the world has become a much more brutal and bitter place. Perhaps the spirit of the Anti-Christ is now afoot. And a resurgent Russia, rediscovering her holiness may well be God’s instrument to meet the challenge.
This all seem so much more terribly important than the sad farce of the American Presidential election that now plays out its, hopefully, final scene before us this day that I am simply quite grateful that you have gathered together these excellent thoughts for all of us to ponder. Many thanks!
Swan
I have read your essay three times, but there are still too many question marks to be able to agree with you about all the complex historical and theological problems you mentioned. One thing however seems to be out of question: Russia is a Christian Nation and therefore is obliged to act according to the highest Christian values: Justice and Caritas. But Russia is not the only and exclusive Christian people. Christianity is universal and not national, as you -together with other Slvophiles- might think. The East and West shall meet again and not be separated till the end of time.
PS: I just had time to read Vladimir Dedijer’s book about JASENOVAC, the Yugoslav Auschwitz and the rather dark role of the Santa Sede (Vatican) was playing during the first and second WW in Yugoslavia to stop the growing influence of the Orthodox Church in Croatia, Slovenia etc. Without going into the details of all these horrible war crimes committed “in good faith” I am not any longer in a position to deny the fact that brutal religious wars (wars of extermination) between the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church (east and west) did happen, even during the whole 20th century.
Saker,
to you and others who appreciate ‘Spiritual Intelligence’ (just as IQ and EQ): please read prophecies on Russia, starting BEFORE the disintegration of USSR,
“Jan 4, 1988 One Of My Beloved Daughters lying dead! A Sister of Yours;
I will revive Her (Russia) As I Have Revived Lazarus…”
“July 29, 2014 My Daughter, Russia, Into A Glorious Nation”
http://www.tlig.org/languages/en/downloads/messages/Prophecies_on_Russia.pdf
Come on, Russia!
Wow! Not even a slight mention of Hellas…The overwhelming Hellenic body and spirit of the Eastern Empire annoys, it seems, even you…The Franks and The Jews firstly hate Greeks, then everybody else that inherits Orthodoxy.
Would part of protocol no.10: “… we shall destroy … the importance of the family and its educational value …” answer your questions? The document of course has been controversial for more than a century, with many denials and accusations, one of which was from Henry Ford the automaker in 1921: “The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are 16 years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time.”
Sorry folks, my above comment was in reply to questions of Eimar on November 06, 2016, re. LGBT etc promotions.
Church father St.Augustin of Hyppo speaking to his audience in Carthago, anno domini 416, mensa cypriani :
‘Don’t think that just because you call yourself a christian, you cannot for that reason stumble over the stone of stumbling. When you disparage his grace , you stumble over him, the stone of stumbling. It’s less serious to stumble at Christ hanging on the cross than at Christ seated in heaven. Let there be justice in you, but let it be from grace, let it come to you from God ; don’t let it be your own.’ (cfr. 169th sermon, 11 (partim)).
Great article Saker!! Your historical analysis explains the rift between New Testament Spirituality (NTS) and the practices of contemporary “Christianity.” I identify myself as a practicing Christian with the consequences of being alienated from most forms of religious practices. My practical NTS also places me out of any social contacts including job relations where you need to be a Cub’s fan to belong to humanity. Your essay provides clarification as to who I am and why I am!
Indeed we live in a post christian society but it is still possible to be the new Jewish people!! This is why people like Putin are able to call society to become normal living in the love of God for all people as opposed to live for one’s empire or one’s “exceptionalism.” Authentic Christianity proclaims love and the end of Satan and his empire of darkness and death including false appropriation of identity.d Your work as a journalist is indeed a call to this path. Thank you very much for clarifying this lonely road to a true humanity in Christ!
This is masterful and actual. The true stories of how Russians lived one thousand, two thousand years ago are riveting and there are not enough of them as British demonisation of Russia became British foreign policy by 1814 when the Russian Nation under Tsar Peter opened Russia’s first sea port, Tsarina Catherine it’s second sea port, threatening the ability of sea-going Britain to successfully plunder the failing Ottoman territories. Whereas Netherlands invited Peter to bring his carpenters and visit the tiny nation to learn shipbuilding. When the US did the CIA, Xx, Regime Change Coup of Ukraine, installing rabid Third Reich leftovers and oligarches, Netherlands, of all European countries, reacted immediately. New NL King Willem with his beloved Queen, Maxima, decided to go right to Russian Federation President Putin to confer in private. The US, in sure control of Holland through the US stolen Bilderberg Group and many other chains of state slavery, denied them the trip. King Willem and his Queen flew to Russia and Putin immediately anyway. They are respected and loved by the Dutch. The massacre of the MH 17 happened. Only Russia has the proofs of how that happened, and the non-Communist Russian Federation is supposed to be EU US NATO destroyed if it keeps on acting as an independent sovereign nation not abjectly obedient to Washington DC.
Hopefully under under the new President Donal Trump the media demonisation will be forcefully ended. It copies The Third Reich media manipulations too closely.and international and Russian studies of actual Russian ancient history must proliferate. At Russia’s request (not unlike Syria’s request to Russia) one thousand years ago, it asked Greece to teach it the Greek alphabet. Along the way Greek Orthodox Christianity was discovered by the Russians, deeply loved and learned. It is returning to the respect it had before the Russian Revolution just one hundred years ago. It and real Greek history explain the vast powerful land in ways few know today after centuries of Western
demonisation, distortion. At this moment in historical time the USA is deliberately, carefully, erasing actual history using Google. Two administrations of Trump no world war would be cooler than cool as USA begins to resemble a normal country for the first time in several hundred years.
Thank you for articulating what I’ve felt deeply for a long time. This answers the search of direction for my heart.Christ have mercy on me, the sinner.
Interesting, good contribution to this vast subject. One big question though, is how the history of the khazars, with their eternal hatred of Russia fits in…
Great article, but it takes Christianity “for granted” where as it’s historically provable that Christianity itself is an artificial construct (search for: “how christianity was invented” – for details).
The true faith of Germanic and Slavic peoples is “Paganism” with Wotan/Odin/Perun as the main God.
Christianity was forced upon us by the Sword and Economic embargoes, Jesus/Jeshua if he ever lived was not even aware of the existence of our peoples, why should be accept a foreign self professed “son of god” who never even spoke to us directly?
Germanic/Slavic people are NOT jews neither biologically nor spiritually (except for those Khazar-ian (removed MOD)who hijacked Judaism for their purposes) why should be worship foreign prophets when we have plenty of our own!?
While you are spot on about the impostors of the synagogue of Satan, the fractured “authority” of Orthodox Christianity testifies that it does not have the necessary mark of oneness, hence is disqualified as being the True Church.
Jesus founded one Church (singular, not plural, in Matthew 16:18), a visible Church to govern (Matthew 16:19 & 18:18), teach (Matthew 28:19-20), and sanctify (Matthew 28:18-19; John 20:23).
Divinely and logically consistent with His commissions, Jesus founded one Church, singular, with one central authority (Matthew 16:19 & 18:18), a visible organized society (Mark 4:11), and called for oneness of doctrine (John 17:11, 21-23).
Jesus did not found an anarchy of churches, whether Protestant or “Orthodox,” having mutually exclusive doctrines or competing claims of authority that are merely private interpretation writ large. http://judaism.is/private-interpretation.html
Note too the existence and acceptance by the Apostles of the Roman hierarchy from the earliest days of the Church.
History of the Catholic Church,
Vol. 1 (of 8) Period of Early Expansion
by Rev. Fernand Mourret ( translator Rev Newton Thompson),
https://archive.org/stream/AHistoryOfTheCatholicChurch/VolumeOne#page/n1/mode/2up