source: http://argumenti.ru/toptheme/n481/394395
by Alexander Chuikov, translated by “D”
On the northern outskirts of Moscow, under the reliable protection of the Interior Troops, lies low a former secret Institute of the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR). Nowadays, on top of its front gate there flaunt golden letters: ‘Russian Institute of Strategic Studies’. But the peaceful name would not mislead the knowing, as more than two hundred employees are forging here the analytical shield of the homeland.
Lieutenant General Leonid Reshetnikov
Will there be a new war in the South-Eastern of the Ukraine? Who is behind the US president? Why many of our officials can be called ideological agents of influence? To these and other questions of “AN”, weighing every word as usual, answers the Director of the RISS, Retired Lieutenant General Leonid RESHETNIKOV.
Rivals in the same field
– You used to have a serious “boss”, the SVR. Why were you suddenly declassified?
– We indeed used to be a classified institute of foreign intelligence focusing on the analysis of available information on the near and far abroad. That is, the information that is needed not only by the intelligence, but also by the structures that define the country’s foreign policy. Oddly enough, but in the Administration of the President of Russia (AP) such serious analytical centers didn’t exist. Although there had been plenty of “institutions”, in which there were only a director, a secretary girl and director’s wife serving as an analyst. The AP lacked real professionals, and the intelligence community had to offer some of theirs.
Today, our founder is the President of Russia, and all government research requests are signed by the Head of Administration Sergei Ivanov.
– How much is your analytics in demand? We are indeed a ‘paper country’, everyone writes a lot, but does it have an impact on the final result?
– Sometimes we see actions that resonate with our analytical notes. Sometimes it is amazing that once you speak out certain ideas, and then they become a trend in the Russian public opinion. Apparently, many of them are thick in the air.
– In the US, the Stratfor think tank and the strategic research center RAND Corporation are doing something alike. Which of you is “cooler”?
– When, after been transferred to the AP in April 2009, we were drafting a new charter of the Institute, we were told, as a wish, that we should follow their example. I thought then, “If you finance us, like Stratfor or RAND Corporation are being financed, then we would put all these foreign think tanks to shame.” After all, Russian analysts are the strongest in the world. Especially regional experts, who have more “fresh” minded and unbiased brains. I can talk about it with confidence, after all I’ve done 33 years of analytics, first in the KGB First Chief Directorate (FCD), and then in the Foreign Intelligence Service.
Oh NGO, where art thou taking us?
– It is well known, that RAND Corporation had developed a plan for Ukraine ‘antiterrorist operation’ in the South-East of the country. Did your institute produce information on the Ukraine, in particular the Crimea?
– Of Course. Basically, only two institutes had been worked on Ukraine: the RISS and Konstantin Zatulin’s Institute of CIS countries. Since inception, we had been writing analytical reports on the growth of anti-Russian sentiment in the mainland Ukraine and strengthening of pro-Russian one in the Crimea. We had been analyzing the activity of the Ukrainian authorities. But we were not producing alarmist information, like ‘all is lost’, but rather drawing attention to the growing problem.
We suggested significantly enhancing the work of pro-Russian non-governmental organizations (NGOs), strengthening, as they say now, the pressure of “soft power” policy.
– With such Ambassador, as Zurabov, we need no enemies!
– Activities of any embassy and ambassador is limited by a multitude of constraints. Once one exceeds them, there would be a scandal. Furthermore, lack of professional staff is a real problem in Russia. And not only in the diplomatic field. Public service has depleted, so to speak, there are very few people with a strong core left.
The role of NGOs is difficult to overestimate. A striking example are the color revolutions, which are fomented by foreign, especially American, non-governmental organizations. This was the case in the Ukraine. Unfortunately, attention is not actually paid to the creation and support of such organizations, which would act in our interest. And if they were there, they would substitute for ten embassies and ten even very smart ambassadors. Now the situation has begun to change after the direct instructions by the President. May God grant, that subordinates do not make a pig’s ear of this development.
What if there’s a war tomorrow
– How, in your opinion, the situation will develop in Novorossia in spring and summer? Will there be a new military campaign?
– Alas, the probability is very high. A year ago, the idea of federalization of the Ukraine was feasible. But now Kiev needs only war, only a unitary state. That is for several reasons. The main one is that ideologically anti-Russian people have stood at the head of the country who are not just subordinates of Washington, but literally are on a payroll of the forces that hide behind the US government.
– And what does this notorious “world government” want?
– It’s easier to say what they want not: they don’t want a federal Ukraine, it would be too difficult to control. It would be impossible to deploy there their military bases, and a new tier of missile defense. And indeed, there are such plans. From Lugansk and Kharkov cruise tactical missiles can reach the Transurals, where our main nuclear deterrent forces are located. And with 100% probability they would be able to hit mine-based and vehicle-based ballistic missiles home on the take-off path. Now this area is available to them neither from Poland nor from Turkey nor from the South-East Asia. That is the main goal. Therefore, the US will fight for the Donbass to the last Ukrainian.
– That is, the shale gas fields, which are in the area, don’t really matter?
– The main strategic objective is a unitary Ukraine under their full control to fight Russia. Shale gas, or arable land are just a nice bonus. Collateral winnings. Plus a serious blow to our defense industry due to rupture of relations between Ukraine and Russia DIC. It’s already done.
– So, we’ve been outplayed, “son of a bitch” Yanukovych had to be evacuated with the help of special forces, and Washington has installed his own “sons of bitches”, right?
– From the military strategic point of view, of course, we’ve been outplayed. Russia’s got the Crimea as a “compensation”. And another “compensation” is the resistance of the inhabitants of the South East of the Ukraine. But the enemy has already obtained a vast territory that once was part of the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire.
– What will we see this year in the Ukraine?
– Process of half-decay or even complete decay. Many just grew quiet for the time being in the face of the real Nazism. But the people who understand that the Ukraine and Russia are connected firmly, have not had their say yet. Neither in Odessa or Kharkov or in Zaporozhye, nor in Chernigov. Silence is not forever. And the cover of the boiler inevitably blows off.
– And how will the relations develop between the Novorossiya and the rest of the Ukraine?
– There is an unlikely scenario Transnistria. But I do not believe in it – the territory of the DPR and LPR is much bigger, millions of people have been drawn into the war. Russia is so far able to persuade the leaders of the militia to maintain a temporary respite and a truce. But it is indeed “temporary”. There is no talking about any kind of the Novorossiya rejoining the Ukraine. People of the Southeast do not want to be Ukrainians.
– Since our country has already been isolated by the world because of the adjunction of the Crimea, then why not go for broke in the Southeast? Isn’t one fed up with hypocrisy?
– In my opinion, it’s too early to go for broke. We underestimate the awareness of our President, who knows that some processes protected from prying eyes are currently under way in Europe. They give us hope that we will be able to defend our interests with methods and means.
A front without the front line
– Amid the information flows associated with the Ukraine, we tend to forget about the explosive growth of religious extremism in Central Asia…
– This is an extremely dangerous trend for our country. There is a very difficult situation in Tajikistan. Kyrgyzstan is unstable too. But the first strike could be directed at Turkmenistan, just as your paper wrote. We somehow forget about it a bit, due to the fact that Ashgabat keeps apart. But this “apartment” may collapse first. Do they have enough forces to defend themselves? Or will we have to intervene in a country that keeps us on a fairly remote distance? So that is a difficult area.
And not only due to the penetration of “Islamic state” militants into the region. According to recent data, the US and NATO are not going to leave Afghanistan and will retain their bases there. From a military point of view, five or ten thousand soldiers who remain within a month can be expanded into a 50 to 100 thousand strong group.
This is a part of an overall plan of encircling and putting pressure on Russia, which is carried by the USA to overthrow President Vladimir Putin and divide the country. An ordinary man in the street can, of course, not believe it, but people who have significant amount of information, are well aware.
– What will be the boundaries of the split?
– Initially they plan to pick up what “lies loose”. It does not matter what will break away: Kaliningrad, North Caucasus or the Far East. This will be the detonator of the process would go on as an avalanche. This idea is not propaganda, but real. Such pressure from west (the Ukraine) and south (Central Asia) will only increase. While trying to seep through the western gate, they are also testing the strength of the southern one.
– Where is our most dangerous strategic direction?
– Southern direction is very dangerous. But so far there are buffer states – former Soviet Central Asian republics. And to the west, the war is already at the border. On our territory, in fact.
What goes on there is not a fight between Ukrainians and Russians, but the war of world systems. Some people believe that they “are Europe”, while others associate themselves with Russia. After all, our country it’s not just a territory, but a distinct huge civilization that brought to the world its views on the world order. First, of course, there was the Russian Empire as a model of an Eastern Orthodox civilization. The Bolsheviks destroyed it, but produced a new civilizational idea. Now we have come very close to a third one. In 5-6 years we will see this.
– What will it be?
– I think it will be a good symbiosis of the earlier ones. And our “sworn colleagues” are well aware. Therefore, the attack began from all sides.
– That is, the joint Russian-American fight against terrorism, in particular with ISIS, is a fiction?
– Of course. America creates terrorists, feeds and trains them, and then gives command to the whole pack: “Attack!”. Maybe one “mad dog” from this pack will be shot, but the rest will be incited even more actively.
And Satan Leads the Dance
– Leonid Petrovich, I see, you think that the United States and American presidents are just a tool. Who then decides the policy?
– There are some societies of people virtually unknown to the public who do not just install the American presidents, but define the rules for the whole of the “Great Game”. These, in particular, are the multinational financial corporations. But not only them.
Now there is a redesigning of the financial and economic system of the world under way. There is an attempt to rethink the whole structure of capitalism, without abandoning it. Foreign policy is changing dramatically. Suddenly, the US actually ditched Israel, its main ally in the Middle East, for the sake of improving relations with Iran. Why is Iran more necessary and important than Tel Aviv? Because it is part of a belt encircling Russia. These clandestine forces are determined to liquidate our country as a serious player on the world stage. After all, Russia bears a civilizational alternative to the whole united West.
Especially so now, when there is an explosive growth of anti-American sentiment in the world. Hungary, where conservative right-wing forces are at the helm, and the Greek leftists – initially diametrically opposite forces – in fact united and “bucked” against the dictation of the United States on the Old Continent. There is someone ready to “buck” in Italy, Austria, France and so on. If Russia this time stands out, processes in Europe will start that will be disadvantageous to the forces aspiring to world domination. And they understand that perfectly.
– Some European leaders have already lamented that the US sanctions were literally imposed on them. Can Europe escape from the “friendly” US embrace?
– Never. America is firmly holding it on a number of chains: the Fed printing press, the threat of color revolutions and the physical removal of unwanted politicians.
– Don’t you exaggerate with the physical removal?
– Not at all. US Central Intelligence Agency – even in terms of its tasks – is not intelligence service. KGB FCD or SVR is classical intelligence service: to gather information and report to the leadership of the country. For CIA these traditional attributes of intelligence are at the end of the task list. But the main one is removal, including physical, of political leaders and organization of coups. And they do in real time mode.
After the wreck of the submarine “Kursk”, CIA Director George Tenet flew to Russia from Romania. I was tasked to meet him at the airport. Tenet long time did not come out of the plane, but then the ramp was open and I was able to look inside his Hercules. It was a flying command post, computer operation center, fully packed with equipment and communication systems that can monitor and simulate the situation throughout the world. Accompanying delegation numbered twenty. While we used to fly and still do fly scheduled flights in a group 2-5 people. As they say, feel the difference.
– Speaking of intelligence services. Once again there have been talks about the idea of restoring the united Russian intelligence service by combining the SVR and the FSB. What are your views?
– Extremely negative. If we combine the two intelligence agencies – foreign intelligence and counterintelligence, then from two sources of information for the country’s top leadership, we create one. Then the man who commands this “Spring of Information” becomes a monopolist. He can be manipulate it in order to achieve some goal. In the KGB such manipulations with information were evident even to Captain Reshetnikov. For a president, a king or a prime minister – whatever you call the highest official – is advantageous to have several independent intelligence sources. Otherwise, he becomes a hostage of a head of a particular structure or of the structure itself. This is very dangerous.
The authors of this idea think that by such uniting we strengthen ourselves, but in fact we are jeopardizing ourselves.
Anybody sentenced?
– Let’s move on from the global conspiracy “to our muttons.” How to distinguish the official, who did not know what they do, from an agent of influence, who creates consciously?
– There are really not as many agents of influence of serious level in the world, as one might think. Adopting or non-adopting serious strategic decisions contrary to the interests of one’s country are mainly initiated by, so to speak, ideological agents. These are those Russian officials who have found themselves occupying a top-ranking post in our government, but their soul is with the West. They do not have to be recruited as informants or given orders. For these people, all that is done “out there” are the highest achievements of civilization. And the things that are here are the “unwashed Russia”. They do not associate the future of their children with this country, and send them abroad to study. And this is a more serious sign than accounts in western banks. These “comrades” dislike Russia from their heart, regardless of the fact that Russia’s “development” is what they are required to administrate.
– How accurately you’ve drawn a portrait of some of our ministers. How will we manage to pass through 2015 with them?
– With or without them, the year will be difficult. Most likely, the next one will not be easier. But then will start a confident march of the new Russia.
Biography: Leonid Reshetnikov. Born February 6, 1947 in Potsdam (GDR) in the family of a military serviceman. He graduated from the Faculty of History of Kharkov State University and standard doctorate of Sofia University (Bulgaria). From 1974 to 1976 he worked at the Institute of World Socialist System Economy of the USSR Academy of Sciences. From April 1976 to April 2009 worked in the analytical units of foreign intelligence. His last post was the Head of Information and Analytical Department of Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, a Member of the Board of the SVR, Lieutenant General. In April 2009, was transferred to the reserve due to reaching the age limit for military service. Member of the Research Council of the Russian Security Council. He speaks Serbian and Bulgarian languages fluently, can communicate in Greek. Decorated with state awards (Order of Courage, Order of Honour), awards of the Russian Orthodox Church (Order of Holy Prince Daniel of Moscow, Order of Saint Prince Dmitry Donskoy), as well as medals and honorary signs.
Many thanks to the Saker community for this informative article.
This is a very stupid statement
Since our country has already been isolated by the world because of the adjunction of the Crimea…
Russia has not been isolated by the world than by the UKUSA and their vassals and it was not beacouse of the adjunction of the Crimea than because the UKUSA want to create an unipolar world.
But to whom I am explaining this altogether?
Amazing eye-opening interview… We already are in a big war… And the entire period 1945-91 now looks somehow peaceful…
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– Since our country has already been isolated by the world because of the adjunction of the Crimea, then why not go for broke in the Southeast? Isn’t one fed up with hypocrisy?
– In my opinion, it’s too early to go for broke. We underestimate the awareness of our President, who knows that some processes protected from prying eyes are currently under way in Europe. They give us hope that we will be able to defend our interests with methods and means.
…”
gives much hope – and one hopes it is indeed so.
The answer to
“…
– Leonid Petrovich, I see, you think that the United States and American presidents are just a tool. Who then decides the policy?
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is quite interesting. One wishes to peer behind that curtain, who are these societies and people…
s quite interesting. One wishes to peer behind that curtain, who are these societies and people…
If they really exists, is it something that nobody can know, explain or name?
A-bomb was not a secret for ever, and to talk about them for the learned people seems that even a bigger secret.
Yes, I know exactly what you mean. On the other hand “… Suddenly, the US actually ditched Israel, its main ally in the Middle East, for the sake of improving relations with Iran. Why is Iran more necessary and important than Tel Aviv? …” gives you a small pause – or doesn’t it?
I think that is just BS.The US government isn’t about to “ditch ” Israel.They have way too much influence in the US.The US is acting more from their own interests for a change.But that isn’t nearly the same.Its only that not following 100% behind Israel has astonished the Israelis and they are freaking out over that.The US thinks they can gain from “acting” like they are not Israels total stooge.But you see the Republicans and many Democrat leaders are still on the Israel bandwagon.Nothing has changed when and where it counts.
Of course, being a mere 99.99% behind them is never good enough for them, which probably explains it. Reshetnikov mentions the clandestine forces, and it seems clear who he has in mind generally, but then he says this (perhaps because he represents the government, for even Russia cannot afford to alienate the almighties?). He gives impression that he knows something to which we are not privy, which may or may not be true. I am still very curious to know how it is organized, and names (perhaps some we hardly ever hear).
I’ve had interesting talks with young, NYC Jews that think that they live ‘under dominion’ here in the US.
actually there’s people in alternative media such as Catherine Austin Fitts that does not think the zionists are as important as alot of people visiting this site….
What a great interview. Precision guided questions, answered clearly and concisely.
As for those hidden processes, I’m hopeful, but mostly fearful of the dangers in such a strategy. Processes take their own time, and can veer off in the most unexpected ways. Rome may not have been built in a day, but it didn’t collapse in a day, or along the lines the participants foresaw.
It takes a sublime intelligence to identify and penetrate complex socio-political processes operating in a non-linear world. Maintaining a calm hand on the wheel as events take their course is high wire work of the most dangerous kind. This is something the West has rarely learned to do, and in any case lost the art some time ago.
According to Reshetnikov, we’re a year or two away from some of those processes reaching maturity. That’s a blink of an eye, so no wonder the West is full of sound and fury. It may or may not signify anything, but one hopes Russia has good nets in place.
an excellent comment on the article
These are those Russian officials who have found themselves occupying a top-ranking post in our government, but their soul is with the West. They do not have to be recruited as informants or given orders. For these people, all that is done “out there” are the highest achievements of civilization. And the things that are here are the “unwashed Russia”. They do not associate the future of their children with this country, and send them abroad to study. And this is a more serious sign than accounts in western banks. These “comrades” dislike Russia from their heart, regardless of the fact that Russia’s “development” is what they are required to administrate.
My friend, this is a Russian problem.
The Russian can carry on in this direction and they can stop it, up to them.
I think the Russian government can create laws which will discourage this policy.
Correct.
And this is an indeed accurate litmus test:
“… They do not associate the future of their children with this country, and send them abroad to study. And this is a more serious sign than accounts in western banks. …”
As one may recall, in some so-called communist countries of eastern Europe during Cold War that was exactly what the highest officials were doing!
Just rumors.
:-)
Could you name some of them?
I could but am ashamed to.I hope they have corrected that personal problem over this last year.
Lavrov…but he’s free to do that…what a world it would be if he wasn’t.
Lavrov?
Nonsense.
I what period of time and whom he sent and where?
I reapeat –
During so called communism the childred of people in the power were not sent for schooling to UKUSA countries.
“During so called communism the children of people in the power were not sent for schooling to UKUSA countries.”
Sorry, but that is not true. In the communist country in Europe which I left many years ago, it was not uncommon for children of select top officials to get education in the West. In the early 1960-s the target country used to be France, where these kids were getting secondary schooling in lyceums, which I know quite well, since I personally have seen and spoken to some of them. The attention widened to Britain in the 60-s; and then gradually in the 70-s and the 80-s, to the USA on higher level, mostly graduate study.
Ann, I have not researched Lavrov’s compliance, but this is a very basic rule that all government officials should follow, and Mr. Lavrov can be no “exception” – which is precisely the whole point!
It indeed should be made into a law in Russia, just as Uncle Bob 1 correctly says below. And it is very sad if written law is all that stands between an official and corruption…
I venture a guess, that perhaps the only period in Russian history relatively (!) without corruption was under Stalin. In fact: his “purges” were directed against corrupt party officials, on all levels. Much of that history emerges now. In recognition of the fact, the communist party of Russian Federation is presently pursuing a worthwhile initiative against corruption in their country, under name “Anti-corruption committee named after I. V. Stalin”, Антикоррупционный комитет им. И. В. Сталина, check http://beyvora.ru/ , http://beyvora.ru/o-komitete (if you do not read Russian, Yandex web page translator https://translate.yandex.com/translate is excellent, incomparably better than google translator).
Yes, indeed, the best way for Russia now would be to go back to everything related to Stalin. That would greatly improve their reputation in the world.
It is corruption we are talking about, doing what is right for the good of the country, and not concern about its image in the defective eyes of the predatory West.
Stalin did some things right, such as – built a mighty industry from scratch, defeated the formidable nemesis in the Great Patriotic War (which feat will be celebrated the coming 9 May in Moscow), propelled Russia to the atomic age and the status of a superpower … and effectively fought corruption.
As I recall some of the top leaders today (though this last year they may have been brought back,I’m not sure) have some of their children living or studying in the West.That is a huge error to permit that,as the author rightly points out.The “co-option” of the elite through the spread of Western “culture” leads to “looking down on your own culture”.And a tendency to betrayal of your nations interests (see the EU stooges for examples).And it has been going on for years throughout the World.It will take laws forbidding it to put a stop to it.Such as,you may not hold a leading government position if you send your children abroad to study.You can not run for political office if you have assets abroad.You can’t have any military or security clearances.And your company can’t benefit from government loans or contracts.This is such a serious concern in today’s World that stringent measures are needed to combat it.
@ Johan
If you think Stalin’s good deeds outweigh his bad ones, you need to read more about it. He fought what he perceived to be his enemies, whether real or not, and killed millions of innocent people.
When VVP is presented by the Western media everywhere as a dictator, the rehabilitation of Stalin is all that’s needed.
“He fought what he perceived to be his enemies”
To add to your comment it is unfortunate that included within his perception was a significant part of the population of the USSR.
That is a contributory reason to why Russia is not the Soviet Union.
It is also a contibutory reason to why the present slogan is “Glory to the heroes”
The regime identified with Stalin has a lesser half-life in practice, but a greater half-life in ideology.
As to the contention by the another person that
” defeated the formidable nemesis in the Great Patriotic War”
A short review of the Stavka files for example for November 1941 will show that the others finally told Stalin to stop meddling and leave the Battle for Moscow to Zhukov and the armed forces.
Counterfactual history is not possible, however it was/is a widely held view in certain quarters that the meddling of Mr. Stalin caused unneccesary deaths of Soviet citizens and others from Brest in1941 to Berlin in 1945.
The various monuments erected had/have many functions including, a dissipation of anger and a deflection of focus from the activities of the regime between 1941 to 1945.
“built a mighty industry from scratch”
One of the 19th Century areas of Imperial Russian industrial development was the Donbass.
This industry was not wholly destroyed by the Russian civil war.
Some machine tools from Tsarist times were still being used in the 1970’s.
Consequently industry was not built from scratch.
The “building” of industry from say 1928 until 1956 was largely undertaken by bonded labour (including through lack of passport and propiska) and slave labour – to my knowledge no accurate reckoning of how many and in what proportions has ever been accurately achieved, although some in Russia have engaged and continue to be engaged in this work.
So Mr. Stalin did not even build industry.
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“In fact: his “purges” were directed against corrupt party officials, on all levels. Much of that history emerges now. In recognition of the fact, the communist party of Russian Federation is presently pursuing a worthwhile initiative against corruption in their country,”
That was one of the cloaks to cover the purges, most of which were not directed at party officials but in large part at the Soviet population.
The present efforts of the Communist Party in Russia in their anti-corruption exhortations illustrate various possible motives which include but are not limited to, re-instating some credibility in their name and historical connection/connotations by using the old cloak you cite for some audiences – the yes he beat his wife but not badly gambit -, and for other audiences of limited or no direct experience as an attractive chimera of an “undoubted good” with limited opportunity to act upon their exhortations.
Try not to rely on hagiography and holograms.
It’s a global problem, just look at all these european countries ruled by the big family of traitors as an obvious example.
Yes…this is the quote which resonated. And yet…some of us… are preparing our children to look east. To open their eyes and see opportunities which are no longer available to them here. Opportunities now only afforded to children of dual-citizens and neo-bolsheviks.
Today, Horace Greeley would be shouting “Go east young man”. Although life here is still easier than in Russia — the worm is turning. Honest hardworking intelligent young people — i.e. non-jews — have been squeezed out of economic opportunities.
I do not want my children joining the US military to fight for zio-scum or become a plumber — because those are the only options people like Michael Bloomberg offers goyim kids in America these days. To work for CIA is a degradation. Same with US military. I’d MUCH rather see them working in Russia. Doing something worthwhile. Building real stuff. Like railways across a continent. And I’m not the only American mother who sees this coming. When the truth about 911 is at a tipping point — goyim kids will be pouring out US borders — after college. Russia may want to encourage these kids to be a part of something substantive. Rather than under the heel of dual-citizen despots.
Russia is just west of Alaska–even Palin knew at least that one fact.
Sarah Palin about her foreign policy experience and Alaska’s proximity to Russia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg
From my US location we fly east to Moscow.
Reshetnikov and Friedman are both wrong.
There is no need to recreate the US version of British (Roman) Empire,
And there is no need to recreate a Russian (Soviet ) Empire
People outside those Empires would not want to be in it.
Methods employed by those Empires are no longer acceptable. Even if artificially created, they will not last, for all the same reasons.
Those analysts need to find more fitting goals, and try to come up with a model of a new global regime, — not fight the past wars and continue to live in a dream of recreating one more time a thing which failed up already.
“… try to come up with a model of a new global regime …”
Do you actually advocate a global government (“global regime”)? If not, please clarify.
Well, we are not there yet, –it something to be developed, for any chance to shortcut an old game played once already.
— I’d guess it may be stronger agreements between existing governments not a single government . Like extension of arms control and trade treaties. Single government is problematic even just for EU (in USA, federal and state governments already).
That sounds reasonable. Well, Putin and others frequently talk of a “multi-polar world”, and I suppose that would fit the bill.
On the other hand, if imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism, someone would inevitably like to become “more equal than others” … so I merely wonder how stable such a thing would be if capitalism is retained…
The word ‘capitalism’ may not mean what you think. Often people equate it with ‘free markets’ (whatever that means). For me, it means that someone with enough capital can pursue monopolistic practices.
From what I see, Putin has placed Russia more on a Byzantine path. If anyone out there has info on the Byzantine governmental structure, I would appreciate some links.
@ T1
It is interesting what you are saying. Next to Egypt of the pharaohs, Byzantium was the longest lasting empire in world’s history, spanning eleven centuries … it was the bastion of Orthodox Christianity, its legal system is the so-called “Roman law” – the system of jurisprudence of today’s continental Europe, its church art and architecture were magnificent… And Russia became the heir of its Orthodoxy and culture…
A glimpse into the functioning of Byzantium, a pleasant to watch overview, can be found in programs 15 and 16 of a remarkable history lecture series “The Western Tradition” by late Professor Eugene Weber, a well known Romanian historian who was on faculty of UCLA for many years:
http://www.learner.org/resources/series58.html?pop=yes&pid=819
(or their downloadable copies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAeC_RrGOi0 The Byzantine Empire [27:22]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YxaWJl3_4I The Fall of Byzantium [27:37] )
And here is an excellent Orthodox resource on Byzantium: http://vizantia.info/ (turn the audio on)!
It features the film The fall of an empire—the Lesson of Byzantium [1:11:04] http://vizantia.info/docs/73.htm (with full transcript at http://vizantia.info/docs/27.htm ) – sending across many centuries a warning for contemporary Russia – what it befalls those who trust the West…
Very interesting. I was not aware of any Romanian professor who was famous in America other than Mircea Eliade.
Is this professor Weber the same that is found here at The Famous Jews & Kosher Search Engine ?
http://store.jewogle.com/eugen_weber/
Yes, he is the one.
(P.S. Yes, I misspelled his name, it is Eugen, not Eugene)
Johan,
Many thanks for your post. I’ll process the links asap.
“Not at all. US Central Intelligence Agency – even in terms of its tasks – is not intelligence service. KGB FCD or SVR is classical intelligence service: to gather information and report to the leadership of the country. For CIA these traditional attributes of intelligence are at the end of the task list. But the main one is removal, including physical, of political leaders and organization of coups. And they do in real time mode.”
The CIA is not an “intelligence gathering” agency in its essence. It is more the covert action/terrorist arm of the American Empire. The CIA also specializes in disinformation and “perception management” as the boys at Langley call it–not to mention manipulating even things like the world of arts and letters, as part of America’s Culture War against Russia.
Who Paid the Piper?: CIA and the Cultural Cold War
http://www.amazon.com/Who-Paid-Piper-Cultural-Cold/dp/1862073279
Who Paid the Piper?
http://www.historytoday.com/stephen-plaice/who-paid-piper
Thanks for the links! Plaice’s presentation of Frances Saunders’ book is very informative. So … even Arthur Koestler was under their wing … (about Orwell I had known before, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orwell’s_list ) … Boston Symphony … Who knows who else, will see the book. While “… it was the ingrained cultural inferiority of the Americans that made them so desperate to succeed in the cultural sphere …” was a jewel (a Greek friend of mine says it much simpler, “barbarians”).
yeah, I’ve heard that CIA are the assassins and FBI are the thugs
This interview confirms Putin’s awesome patience and skill as a strategic thinker and player. No wonder the west’s fascist leadership and ‘deep state’ is so terrified of him. They recognise that in Putin lies the one visionary who has come at the right time to destroy them, and he will.
That remark about ‘processes under way in Europe’ and that are ‘hidden from prying eyes’ implies that something big and explosive is coming, something that is hidden from western intelligence services and that will upset completely the world domination plans of the Anglozionists. On the other hand, it could be just good old KGB disinformation, but how will the western spooks know?
Thanks to The Saker and to Leonid Reshetnikov for this interview. The situation is scary, but with men like Reshetnikov and Putin guiding Russia we have reason to hope that within a few years the Empire will be history.
I found this interview fascinating. The anticipations made by Outlaw planners, for example, as they begin to light fires in every sector of BRICS and attempt to destabilize the New Silk Road and Eurasian Economic Zone projects.
The Deep State running the Outlaw Empire consists of mostly Old Money families who in turn control the international finance corps. Look at who sits on the Board of Directors of those corporations and you will see it’s mostly the same sets of people. Elimination of the Outlaw Empire requires their wholesale elimination–which is the #1 reason why non-violent revolution will not succeed. Just look at the millions killed to gain their fortunes–they don’t give a damn how many or who, just like serial killers. Serial killers are beyond redemption; they are my one reason for keeping the death penalty.
It seems clear that the Russians just what the space to pursue their projects without interference and lack interest in bringing the Outlaw Empire to justice. But, can they do the former without doing the latter? I don’t think so. And the same goes for the Chinese Projects as well as Multilateralism generally since it must rest on the Rule of Law.
This is a great interview. I posted some of it yesterday. It certainly all seems authoritative.
Has US taken Iran as its new best friend in the Mid-East instead of Israel? Thierry Meyssan thinks so.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article187251.html
He says US wants out of the Mid-East in order to concentrate its resources on making havoc against Russia & China.
I would like to hear what you all think of his analysis.
Thierry Meyssan is right. America is only making a tactical recalibration to threaten Russia and China. It hopes to co-opt Iran or at least neutralize it as part of the multipolar bloc.
All those who hailed the Iran nuclear dear as a blow for peace are idiots or American disinfo shills.
The United States of America is an expansionist empire in its national DNA.
Remember how America was spawned in the first place: one of the greatest land thefts in human history in which the United States stole and now occupies Native Indian lands from the Atlantic to the Pacific Oceans.
This was part of America’s God-given “Manifest Destiny” to occupy the North American continent.
Today, Americans are even more predatory, as they believe they have a God-given Manifest Destiny to conqure the entire world, and especially Eurasia.
America will not stop its aggressive expansion until it is stopped–and terminated–as a nation-state, with extreme prejudice.
“Thierry Meyssan is right. America is only making a tactical recalibration to threaten Russia and China. ”
It would appear that you have fallen down the exceptionalist rabbit hole by assigning prime/sole agency to the misdesignated USA and not the continent (America).
“Today, Americans are even more predatory, as they believe they have a God-given Manifest Destiny to conqure the entire world, and especially Eurasia.”
You appear to embroider this immersion in exceptionalism by positing unicausality, illustrated in this instance by assigning sole motive, thereby obfuscating/precluding perception of other possible additional motives, for example that they are even more predatory because they are even more desperate.
One of the possible indicators of system breakdown is increased oscillation within a linear paradigm.
Since the world and things in/on it laterally interact, linear systems will always breakdown – in layman’s terms this is usually described as when illusion meats reality, and wise strategies should encourage this systemic breakdown on the understanding that “control” is not an option..
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“It takes a sublime intelligence to identify and penetrate complex socio-political processes operating in a non-linear world. ”
“Sublime” is another instance of falling down the rabbit hole of exceptionalism.
If you study Mr. Putin’s interview towards the end of the Crimean coming video home posted on this blog, when asked by the interviewer an approximation of “How does it feel making history?” Mr. Putin’s reply was approximately “If you thought like that you couldn’t work”.
As outlined above and can be found in various comments in this blog and elsewhere, evaluation is often a function of projection which precludes perception of other options.
Perhaps Mr. Putin’s reply does not refer to pressure of work but to ways of perception, and in such a scenario is dismissing the notion of exceptionalism and sublimity in regard to himself and associates.
On points of continuing strategic utility, If intelligence is operated within “complex (lateral) socio-political processes operating in a non-linear (lateral) world”, what would be the likely evaluation of schadenfreude?
@Anonymous
“On points of continuing strategic utility, If
intelligence is operated within “complex
(lateral) socio-political processes operating
in a non-linear (lateral) world”, what would
be the likely evaluation of schadenfreude?”
Deep doo-doo por los hombres ‘exceptional?’
Hmmm. I plump for M.E. re-configuration, ISIS defeated, a Greater Yemen (Saudi shrunk to no-oil irrelevance ) and Iran playing similar regional role as RF in EurAsia.
The schadenfreude would likely be ‘enjoyed ‘ on the normal curve distribution of common humanity.
Or something.
“The schadenfreude would likely be ‘enjoyed ‘ on the normal curve distribution of common humanity.”
Schadenfreude is not only a form of masturbation but also a strategy of self-defeat.
This underpins the notion of equal and different and why this is a strategic goal.
It is those engaging in schadenfreude who perceive themselves superior since the activities which afforded opprtunities for them to engage in schadenfreude did not happen to them.
Schadenfreude is corrosive of empathy, solidarity and sharing including knowledge, thereby re-inforcing immersion in practices/ideologies of the present socio-economic system.
“The schadenfreude would likely be ‘enjoyed ‘ on the normal curve distribution of common humanity.”
Like many of the opponents you appear to assign validity to linear statistics, including the possibility that “normal distribution” in a dynamic system can exist, as can common humanity.
You also appear to conflate mass and critical mass. Perhaps you would be minded to embroider on this by citing standard deviation, or extrapolating on the wonders of modes and means.
That is welcome since such illusion may hasten transcendance.
“Deep doo-doo por los hombres ‘exceptional?’”
Thank you for your further evidence of your feelings of insecurity and for catalysing the opportunity to remark upon it.
““How does it feel making history?” Mr. Putin’s reply was approximately “If you thought like that you couldn’t work”.”
As good an example of sublime intelligence as I’ve seen, and a telling contrast to the exceptionalism of the reality-creating demagogues executing the West’s strategies at the top of their lungs.
More to the point, my original statement was but an observation that in the present circumstances, operating that sort of strategy requires a Taoist sensibility to avoid catastrophic results.
The danger lies in the fact that LaoTzes aren’t as common as demagogues, and quantity can have a quality all its own.
I think the USA is trying to make a detente with Iran in order to concentate its force against Russia and China…Iran would come back later as an “unfinshed job”.
My God Saker, what an article…I can’t believe there are only 29 comments. This is the best info available. Thank you so much…I hope we make it to ‘and after’….2017. I read somewhere that global war is scheduled for 2016….we have to change the world before then.
If we don’t we will be economic and perhaps worse slaves for centuries.
I think if Saker drifts into the Serbian narrative there will be even less comments.
My advise to him is to stick to the geopolitics, Russia, Ukraine, Europe, China, USA, Middle East and leave Serbia in the peace.
Dear F** EU, what is your point?…
Some are not satisfied with being slaves for ever, “they will scramble like a horse that gets rid of the flies”. Some will rise and fight as the companions of Donbass….
Interesting interview, but it raised some serious “red flags”:
Suddenly, the US actually ditched Israel, its main ally in the Middle East, for the sake of improving relations with Iran.
The USA did not ditch Israel, it’s “good cop/bad cop” tactics with Netanyahu playing the role of the “bad cop”. A segment of the ZPC/NWO decided it was better to pretend to agree to a political deal, while continuing the war against Iran a little less obviously. Better PR. This is very Israeli and duplicates the zionazi fraudulence in their “negotiations” with Palestine and everything else.
This is a major fail on the part of Reshetnikov. In his answers on Muslim terrorism, he pins it on the pindos, but fails to mention the zionazi connections – specifically the Jewish mafia/5th column aspect. Another major fail. The Russian security services are well versed in the connections between the terrorists and the Israeli assets in Russia. Considering the ubiquitous association of zionazi Jewish 5th column types operating with the “Muslim” terrorist elements against Russia, there is no way to avoid the zionazi element in the attack on Russia.
I agree with the above. The whole posturing of the GOP/Netanyahu v Democrats on Iran really smacks of a good cop / bad cop routine, in order to make the deal more palatable since this is such a huge u-turn in policy.
The thing about Iran is that it’s pretty desperate economically. As I read somewhere in response to the outcry on whether or not the US could trust Iran, Iran must be totally insane to trust the US, after everything that’s gone down since the 50s – removal of a democratic government, installation of an oppressive dictator, support of the Iran-Iraq war, constant threats, sanctions, etc.
Iran isn’t going to become an ally of the US though. Too much animosity with Saudi Arabia, and they don’t forget the past easily. Seems more like an indication of the limits of power of The Establishment – they need to cool things off in the ME.
One thing that I don’t think gets enough appreciation here – the ME really is on the verge of exploding. Everything around Saudi Arabia is burning, and the regime is extremely oppressive and unpopular. It’s only a matter of time before the forces they helped unleash on Iraq/Syria/Yemen start wreaking havoc internally.
Thank you Saker for publish it and to “D” for translation, and thanks a lot to Alexander Chuikov and Mr. Roshetnikov. Great interview.
Find these points interesting:
“(…) lack of professional staff is a real problem in Russia. And not only in the diplomatic field. Public service has depleted, so to speak, there are very few people with a strong core left.”(…)
Have they analyzed why is this? Is it a lack of available vocations or access to Diplomatic or International Relations studies are not available to most ordinary Russians? Of course, here in Spain, some even having the vocation, we have not had the opportunity ( if one does not come from a family of diplomatic / political or has contacts at this level, no one bothers to perform these studies; much less if is unwilling to commune with millstones ). And, after all, who would want to defend outside those lackeys´ positions which have always kept the two parties guarantors of “the system”?
“(…) our country it’s not just a territory, but a distinct huge civilization that brought to the world its views on the world order. First, of course, there was the Russian Empire as a model of an Eastern Orthodox civilization. The Bolsheviks destroyed it, but produced a new civilizational idea.(…)”
Sounds like a smart posture, learn from the mistakes of own history but also take advantage of the successes and good ideas. And within these can not ignore the great successes and achievements, at civilizational level, of the former USSR. For example, linking to the previous item, the Soviet educational and social system has been, and we do not know if it will be, the only system in history where a person of humble social origin, like Mr. Putin, could study what proposed himself, if he had the ability and interest to do so, and could reach any place in the state administration, including the president of the nation, as it has been proved. Funny that then are the USA who have appropriated of that idea of the “American Dream” when the only dream that has existed has always been the “Soviet dream”. In USA one who has no money or have not the support of The Bildelbergs can not aspire to be president and must also be willing to be a puppet of these. This is far from be the dream of anyone with half a brain.
“(…) the man who commands this “Spring of Information” becomes a monopolist. He can be manipulate it in order to achieve some goal. In the KGB such manipulations with information were evident (…)is advantageous to have several independent intelligence sources. Otherwise, he becomes a hostage of a head of a particular structure or of the structure itself. This is very dangerous.(…)”
Of course, “never put all your eggs in one basket”. I think this was one of the reasons for the end of the USSR.
“Funny that then are the USA who have appropriated of that idea of the “American Dream” when the only dream that has existed has always been the “Soviet dream”. In USA one who has no money or have not the support of The Bildelbergs can not aspire to be president and must also be willing to be a puppet of these. This is far from be the dream of anyone with half a brain.”
When your opponent is self-destructing, try to resist criticising your opponent, especially by positing comparatives from the past.
“the only dream that has existed”
Dreaming is a normal brain function and so it is unlikely that there is or has ever been an “only dream”. From brain scans I have heard that even burros have dreams.
Dreams also interact laterally and hence it is unlikely that outside songs dreams do not come true despite the suggestion of Frank Sinatra –
Fairy tales can come true
It can happen to you
If you’re young at heart
(or have large breasts, cute ass, white teeth, charisma) or other notions designed to deflect challenge by positing that the dreamer is responsible for her/his dream not coming true whilst simultaneously accelerating the dreamer’s insecurities and deteriorating “mental health.
Some posit that you need dreams to motivate/proceed, but to follow such a strategy integrates you into ideologies/practices of the opponents thereby re-inforcing their control. For data in corroboration of this thesis try investigating MIR, or if feeling of a wry disposition compare and contrast the relative numbers of subjects represented in the monuments of Chile.
Perhaps better use of time could be spent in questioning instead of reacting to capes, red or otherwise?
Amongst the salient questions could be – does a drowning man suit your purpose, or if not, how to drown a drowning man with the minimum of blowback?
Russia’s biggest problem is its economy. Decades of communism destroyed the natural organic accumulation of wealth that is the result of freedom and an uncorrupted justice system. If they can fix this by developing a huge diversified value-added economy fully using the potential of its people there’s no reason it can’t have a GDP that’s 150% larger than Germany or Japan. NO more worrying about funding for intelligence.
This is going to take years and years to develop. However, I did recently read something that just may be something of a silver bullet (economically speaking) at the heart of the corrupt western financial system while Russia’s struggling to pull itself off the ropes:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/03/no_author/the-economic-war-against-russia/
When I saw the heading of the article I sort of laughed. However, the author brought up an amazing point that really has a shot of working in the long term: Russia should establish secret private international banking and a tax-free zone for foreign money, sort of like Switzerland with nuclear weapons.
In North America and Europe, governments are desperate for money. The erosion of property rights is far more advanced than the disintegration of democracy. Also, never underestimate the greed / desperation of the upper class in the west. I’m not talking about those in the upper echelons of The Establishment – they’re past caring about money – more like the officers and captains of industry with net values of $5 million – $1 billion – banking executives, S&P 500 executives, tech entrepreneurs, etc. This is not to mention all kinds of money from nouveau-riche Chinese and Indians, and some oil money from nervous arabs industrialists.
There are no more safe havens left in the west for white-collar money. Especially for Americans – they have to report and get taxed on ALL assets everywhere in the world. Forget about Switzerland, they’ve shown they will bend to pressure from the US or the EU. Hong Kong / Singapore are options but it gets complicated and there are no guarantees.
It’s not instant coffee – it will take years for Russia to gain confidence. But there will be a few early adopter ready to try Russia out in the beginning.
This really strikes at the weakness at the heart of the western financial system.
“be something of a silver bullet (economically speaking)”
It is part of the opponents’ ideology to posit the existence of, and the attractions of seeking, a silver bullet; an all encompassing “solution”.
The particular silver bullet proposed “Russia should establish secret private international banking and a tax-free zone for foreign money, sort of like Switzerland with nuclear weapons.” was proposed/discussed in Lithuania in April/May 1993 although it had been conceived earlier.
Some lateral thinkers perceived and discussed possible outcomes from gestation onwards.
You may not be aware of the control relations in Soviet times, expecially in regard to industrial/property assets, of ministries and other bodies such as ProfSoyuz (trade union organisations) and Komsomol.
After the dividing and loosening of some of the Soviet Republics and then the Soviet Union itself, in the ensuing period until approximately 1994 an accommodation was reached to “regularise relations” with large but discreet transactions taking place.
Sometimes some of these relations were codified into law or through “amnesties” transforming “black money” into “white”, perceived in context at least by some to be necessary to maintain social peace, and hence their existence was ocassionally encourage to bubble up into “public conciousness”.
The summer 1994 was the time of the collapse of MMM, a major Ponzi scheme, which encouraged a change in perception of even linear thinkers; even non-Russian linear thinkers.
Linear notions such as silver bullets operating in lateral environments always give rise to what some perceive as “unintended consequences”. Amongst these “unintended consequences” were assasinations, kidnaps and an increase of opportunities for these with blat, including members of the former nomenklatura.
“Unintended consequences” is an incantation often used by linear thinkers when the consequences of their actions/perception become clear to the public.
Another tactic used is to blame the messenger not the message – for example US Senate Foreign Relations Committee deliberations/decisions of 1994.
Linear notions such as blaming the messenger not the message operating in lateral environments always give rise to what some perceive as “unintended consequences”.
One of these “unintended consequences” was the “Russian default” of 1998.
Throughout all of the above strategic opportunities were afforded to these operating/perceiving laterally.
Wise strategies are functions of purpose which is a function of perception.
“it will take years for Russia to gain confidence.”
It seems that Russia has already gained the confidence of those who co-operate them, but perhaps your assignment of importance refers to a different audience?
http://rt.com/news/248841-hologram-protest-spain-law/
It may be too obvious for anyone here to comment on, but the following almost leaps out:
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re: – And what does this notorious “world government” want?
– It’s easier to say what they want not: they don’t want a federal Ukraine, it would be too difficult to control. It would be impossible to deploy there their military bases, and a new tier of missile defense. And indeed, there are such plans. From Lugansk and Kharkov cruise tactical missiles can reach the Transurals, where our main nuclear deterrent forces are located. And with 100% probability they would be able to hit mine-based and vehicle-based ballistic missiles home on the take-off path. Now this area is available to them neither from Poland nor from Turkey nor from the South-East Asia. That is the main goal. Therefore, the US will fight for the Donbass to the last Ukrainian.”
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US bases, any bases, roughly east of the Dnieper at least, are a clear casus bellli, a red line that Russia cannot permit the crossing of. Russia must attack them in order to survive, whatever the best way would be (maybe airborne landings might avoid a nuclear confrontation).
re: “- What will be the boundaries of the split?
– Initially they plan to pick up what “lies loose”. It does not matter what will break away: Kaliningrad, … “
Russia is woefully undermanned in Kaliningrad: one mechanized brigade of one-year conscripts with enlisted NCO’s, plus an enlisted Naval Infantry brigade and an independent Naval Infantry regiment. Well armed, with significant missile, artillery, and tactical air support. But very little on the MLR (as we called it in Korea). Consequently, vulnerable to a sudden coup de force from Poland and/or US/NATO units rotated through the Baltics (now effectively a reinforced armored brigade). At least several more Russian mechanized brigades are necessary to hold the line. Although airborne reinforcements have been flown in during snap exercises, a NATO Baltic no-fly zone would undoubtedly accompany any sudden attack, very difficult to break through.
A reason why exceptionalism requires transcendence, and the opportunities in lateral challenge.
http://rt.com/uk/248617-acid-ocean-extinction-study/
Pablo Iglesias @Pablo_Iglesias_ · 4 de abr.
“Aquí mi entrevista completa a @UlrikeLunacek referencia de los verdes en Europa”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bMLuA7ynavk
P.S: I guess you’ve noticed, but you should avoid sexual character similes in this forum. It’s not for me, but I do not like your interesting comments were eliminated because of so trivial matter. Do it for me, please, if you want.
I guess everyone is interested to live in a healthier, less polluted world, but, kidnapping, literal, and pollution of “green” (as has happened with all NGOs) movements by imperialism and his minnions has made many people have allergies to these movements, although some of their demands are perfectly legitimate and reverse in the good of all.
“but, kidnapping, literal, and pollution of “green” (as has happened with all NGOs) movements by imperialism and his minnions has made many people have allergies to these movements,”
You have highlighted some reasons for kidnapping and its consequences, but apparently failed to acknowledge the possibility to source anti-histamines, sometimes known as lateral strategies.
Your day off?
Yes I am off today.
Do you mean inflitrate these movements? But they follow the signed policy for them.
Sometimes, even under the effect of antihistamines, if one is exposed to the allergen amount enough, these could be useless.
I tried to Podemos, but too allergic to Trotskiist sector majority enough in my area then. Now, I see different faces. I always had to argue with someone about remaining in NATO which I supossed was a red line and a start point. One day I had a heated discussion with a man whose wife was Polish and told me all atrocities that the Russians ( Soviets, of course ) had done to the family of his wife.
That man put me on my nerves, and his appearance really seemed more a cop more than one type of the lefts.
“Yes I am off today.”
Why was the question which led to this response asked?
The reference was to a previous one of cancers, treatments and occupations.
Allergies can sometimes be ameliorated by anti-histimines – at best a management strategy.
“Your day off?” From what – work, anti-histamines or maintaining a calm and rational relationship to the world?
“Do you mean inflitrate these movements?”
Another word for infiltrate is to become immersed.
Why play the opponents game, transcend it – do something different – like the link on the demonstration of the holograms.
“One day I had a heated discussion with a man whose wife was Polish and told me all atrocities that the Russians ( Soviets, of course ) had done to the family of his wife.”
Why have a discussion when all that was being offered was a datastream based upon his wife’s experience that would add to your understanding. What was there to discuss – did you temporarily mutate into his probably dead father-in-law and correct him from that experience?
Try to learn to listen more and talk less – you could learn something you were unaware of before.
Why was it a heated discussion? Perhaps as a consequence of your frustration/projections which precluded you listening and learning something you were unaware of before?
“I always had to argue with someone about remaining in NATO which I supossed was a red line and a start point. ”
Why argue, what did it or could it achieve?
“That man put me on my nerves, and his appearance really seemed more a cop more than one type of the lefts.”
Perhaps if you look at events of the recent past you will detect some of the uses of putting on their nerves.
Worst of all try not to set much store by appearances. Even the Saker used the phrase “well-dressed” in one of his evaluations/expectations of a person about 1 year ago; it’s a deeply held prejudgement precluding opportunities to learn.
There is another contribution below.
Off from work, just retaking antihistamines ( gone to pharma shop yesterday ) and mantaining a calm and rational relationship to the world as I am used on week ends.
And what is the usefulness of a demonstration of holograms? Perhaps holograms scare someone? Why do you think they have made a law forbidding people close to the Congress? Because they are very afraid that people will come en masse to Congress.
Basically give you all a terrible fear that people back to take the “Winter Palace”. It is clear that you will do anything just to avoid it ( even cooperate with opponents? )
Why it was a heated discussion? Why argue?
Perhaps is there another way to meet a Trotskyist for coffee, dinner or something? Do you think is possible have a reasonable conversation with this people?
They always try out one crazy. Do you remember that dinner at Stalin’s dacha just before he suffered the collapse? Curiously he was a man accustomed to hear and only then expressed his opinion, a healthy and robust Caucasian man, tanned in a thousand battles. Nevertheless, some of those present, including the illustrious Nikita Khrushchev and, of course, Lavrenti Beria, they managed to provoke Koba a collapse that would finish him definitely.
Fortunately, only for this, I am not Russian, and I’m not willing to listen to the end of an alleged bankrupt businessman whose wife is, supposedly, Polish, and whose father (who was still alive when the guy was telling all this) has barbarities to tell about the Russians, and based in this, his son in law argued that we must remain in NATO at a meeting of a party supposedly left.
Wonder if his wife was Polish and it was not an invention ( I have a very youthful appearance and perhaps even thought I sucked still my finger ).
Do not worry about me, any Trotskyist is going to cause me a stroke, I assure you in the name of Koba.
I did not see him in the following meetings, perhaps very busy travelling to Poland?
Despite being ruined, he brought an splendid Mac computer to that fateful meeting and he passed most time typing while I complained about an article that was sent to all the members defending that the US had never intervened less anywhere.
All this occurred just over a year ago.
“And what is the usefulness of a demonstration of holograms? ”
Part of its usefulness includes but is not necessarily restricted to:
1. Some might ask why the hologram.
2. Communicating your notion of your power is based upon a hologram and so we respond by hologram.
3. Communicating that demonstrations are mostly facades of limited effect and significance hence we make our demonstration by hologram (facade).
“Why do you think they have made a law forbidding people close to the Congress? ”
Sometimes people do some things because they can’t imagine anything else to do, but feel they must do something – be seen to be active since they are the “exceptional” ones.
The choice of what to do illustrates thinking of what is valid to do, illustrating their perspective.
Passing a law is partly based on the notion that people do not understand that laws are ideological constructs supporting a socio-ecomomic system, and believing that laws can “command” social activities.
Then they need to scrabble around to explain criminality, generally by falling back on the binary notions of good and evil whilst deflecting attention from the realisation that their social activities are passing laws so as not to undermine their “legitimacy”
Try not to become enmeshed in hagiography, although such is understandable given probable location.
What about that repeatedly pointed by yourself about that Russia is willing to be co-operative?
With who/ whom and for what?
By the way, since childhood I have a great liking to read the lives of the saints. When I was very little, in a Catholic college, life of saints, in comics, was the only available at that children’s library. When I went with mom to the hairdresser, I used to read the small central part in little print and black and white on gossip magazines available there. There I learned of Patty Hearst and Stockholm syndrome.
Too early for my age, I began to wonder why if we, workers, had to help the poors, as they said in the church, the Pope, who lived between immense wealth, did nothing for them. I used to tell it to mom and she told me not be “heretic”.
In any case, I stopped going to church despite protests from mom.
Start reading the life of “other saints” was a natural evolution of myself. As you can see, any familiar nor any party influence.
“With who/ whom and for what?”
As the data continues to illustrate largely with any who are not exceptionalist, and since it is co-operative the what is negotiable within contexts of equal and different.
They are even US citizens who have been invited by Russia to be evacuated from Yemen after the US state department refused to help evacuate their own citizens.
Some of this evacuation has been taking place over the last couple of days.
“Nikita Khrushchev and, of course, Lavrenti Beria, they managed to provoke Koba a collapse that would finish him definitely.”
Some are of the view that they smothered him and the myth of the primacy of Beria in this was useful to those thinking laterally.
Some are of the view that they were 30 years late and that the half-life would have been less.
I would suggest you missed some names though.
Mr. Krushchev may be seen as a bufoon who banged his shoe on the table at the UN, or the one who lost the Cuban missile crisis – a narrative of utility for some of the “red experts” including Messrs. Brezhnev and Kosigyn.
Mr. Krushchev lived in his time, and Mr. Yeltsin lived in his.
Try not to look for good guys in white hats and bad guys in black hats – it will likely not be conducive to continued well-being.
“I guess you’ve noticed, but you should avoid sexual character similes”
Similies are designed by some to be ambiguous in part to guage perception of, and reaction to them.
However the reasons for the reaction to them are not necessarily the one you posit.
The internet is a monitored broadcast medium and the broadcasts of some are monitored from inception rather than from point of “publication”.
So to be censored or not censored not only creates a datastream of where the “censorship” did or did not take place, but illustrates an aspect of the notions of some to what constitutes a blog, including their perceived responsibilities and roles within their notions of what constitutes a blog, but precludes a sharing with “their audience”.
Sometimes contributions to this blog are censored before publication and sometimes removed after publication on this blog, as happened in this particular case.
This of course is monitored by quite a few people and may lead to lack of follow up to the Stratcom/DFID “documents” leaked.
As has been remarked in the past, in times of full bladders it would likely be good manners to offer a place to take a leak.
Widening horizons is usually an aid to perception.
Thanks for the link – and one in return in case it is not published.
http://rt.com/news/248841-hologram-protest-spain-law/
Thanks, the link is posted above.
Here, you see, things start to get ugly. The government is feeling grown to European permissiveness in Ukraine, EU protest, but with a small mouth. From Here to ban the Communist Party and other leftist organizations there is only one step. Imagine what could happen in the case of an hypothetical victory of Podemos here. If even a “green” and supposedly “left” as Ulrike Lunacek is in favor of “intervention based on humanitarian grounds” ( which is, “humanitarian grounds” as wide as they, the imperialists and the capital, need ).
I expect the worst and the worst is that I live far from Russia to run in one race.
What most annoys me is that after all, even you, you are all complaining all day only about Stalin’s repression, a repression that does not exist anymore, and he is finished too, Grandpa is dead ( everyone happy, smile, please, the world is free at least ) what there are those, such as The Ukraine and ours, and few are tearing their hair…..Last day I made a comment at my job and some some grateful stomachs, which have a much higher than my salary but do not work even half, were thrown over me like hyenas.
Sometimes I would like to apply for a place in the ISS.
“What most annoys me is that after all, even you, you are all complaining all day only about Stalin’s repression, a repression that does not exist anymore, and he is finished too,”
I don’t complain about Stalin since that would be an exhalation of wind signifying nothing.
I and my associates create and apply strategies to transcend the half-lives of these regimes, as we understand that it is of current relevence inhibiting transcendence in some regard.
Stalin and his regime were also exceptionalists, and the people who understand this better than many, are those who lived in the Soviet Union. That Russia is not the Soviet Union, and that Russia is the way of co-operation, are consequences of all of the above.
To expect is to be an object, to share instead of continuing on the present regime is to become an actor in your own life.
As for attacks of hyenas, ferocity tends to oscillate in relation to their fears. Why relate to the hyenas any more than necessary – circumvent them as far as possible, and minimise your vulnerabilities to their regime.
“Sometimes I would like to apply for a place in the ISS.”
Part of the role of ISS is to offer a displacement option diffusing anger thereby maintaining the advantages of the opponents.
Just as the Rand Corporation wrote a paper detailing the plan to butcher Eastern Ukraine, they also wrote the plan for the U.S. to fake a developing alliance with Iran .
THEN…the Israelis, feigning disgust, will have to “go it alone” in attacking Iran. The U.S. then gets cover. I read part of the paper and it’s playing out textbook.
@Von Ryken
The Ukraine carve-up has no guaranteed outcomes – apart from the carve-up itself. I have strong ongoing suspicions re Poland: or more accurately, the troika of players that is Tusk, Komorovsky and Porky.
The M.E. is looking to me like a major regional re-configuration that will have Nutty totally c******g his pants: it remains to be seen whether saner Israeli forces prevail before he goes nuclear.