A group of French lawmakers on a visit to Crimea said they were surprised by the level of happiness among the local population after talking to different residents of the Black Sea peninsula.
Crimea, which has a predominately ethnically-Russian population, split from Ukraine to rejoin Russia in March 2014 after a referendum in which 96 percent backed the secession. Kiev and its Western allies labeled this move an “annexation.”
“We saw happy people here who live in Crimea and have returned to Russia. We talked to young people. It’s a very different picture from what is shown in our countries. I saw such a warm welcome here. We had a completely different idea about Crimea [before the visit],” one of the 10 lawmakers told journalists after talking to residents of the Crimean city of Yalta.
The French lawmakers, led by lower-house National Assembly Foreign Affairs Committee member Thierry Mariani, said they had decided to make the trip to Crimea to get a sense of what is really going on in the Black Sea peninsula.
Both the French and Ukrainian governments have condemned the decision, considering it a breach of international law.
“We saw happy people here who live in Crimea and have returned to Russia. We talked to young people. It’s a very different picture from what is shown in our countries.”
The real picture always is very different from what the zio-media presents. The western zionazi msm is goebellsian propaganda on steroids.
A delegation of ten French members of parliament (MPs) decided to visit Crimea to prove to the French government that it has a wrong political stance towards Russia and to “put Paris back in its place,” French daily Le Figaro reported.
The French lawmakers, led by lower-house National Assembly Foreign Affairs Committee member Thierry Mariani, said they came to Crimea to get a real sense of what is really going on in the Black Sea peninsula.
According to Mariani, the main goal of the visit is to find out the truth about recent developments in Crimea, as Western media has created a one-sided account of events following its reunification with Russia.
During their visit, the French MPs saw the local population living in peace and dismissed claims of any Russian “occupation” of Crimea.
“You always have to come to a place and see what is happening. During these two days, we have seen that there is no occupation, people are free. We have seen that it is a peaceful region, people live in peace,” said one of the parliamentarians.
Is he so popular? This kind of behaviour is not going to help Putin in the long run, I think .Of course I understand what Navalny stands for, but in a democratic country he should have a right to participate.
It looks like Russia is becoming more and more like China. Is that good, anyone?
Yes, it is good. Navalny is a traitor, an agent of the greatest force for evil in human history, the Atlanticist Reich. If Yeltsin had been stopped before his Quisling treachery, the entire world would be a better place. The ideal solution for the Navalny type of Quisling is expulsion to their spiritual Homeland in the glorious West.
Navalny is a criminal and a spy for hostile interests. How many countries allow such scum to propagandize electoral processes? Rhetorical question, the answer is 0. Well, outside of that circle-jerk club known as the ZPC/NWO, where it’s mandatory.
One of the cross-talkers made a disturbing statement, namely that many in Donbass, including the militia (now an army) are very angry at Russia for not helping them more (like Crimea?). I think this is unfair to Russia which has a huge task at hand in confronting the Empire. Like their Greek counterparts, the belly-ache’ers should take more responsibility for creating their situation. Russia is not going to let Donbass starve, unlike the US/EU overlords will relative to Ukraine. Simple fare can be good for the soul, like fasting in the Orthodox way. As for being out of work, work is not what it’s cracked up to be. Again, playing off Orthodoxy, we did not have to work in the Garden of Eden. At least Donbass may not be heating up the planet as much like they used to with their coal industry. Yes, getting shelled is life-threatening but they can always move, as many have. I’m no military analyst but I can tell a “hawk from a handsaw” (or handgun). I’d rather be in Donbass than Greece; at least I’d have my pride to keep me warm; and the EU can’t let one of their own starve, now can they? One thing for sure–I would not want to be in Ukraine.
Let’s say, you are living in a town your family has lived in for centuries.Your ancestors are buried there,its your land.All of a sudden a gang of murderers and thieves come to the towns near you.They say they now rule and if any object they will kill them.You hear of this,your neighbors and brothers in a town near you say they will help you and not to fear.Then the gang of killers moves into your town.You resist them and kick them out of town.They return with bigger numbers and start to murder your people in the town.You call on the neighbor town for the promised help.But now they say,they changed their minds.And instead you need to accept the rule of the murderous gang.After all,how bad can they be.Its not our fight.You just kneel to them,and let them rule you.Then yes,I think you might be a “bit” upset with the neighbor town.Russia “implied” (at the very least) that they would not let the fascists kill their people in Ukraine.It was that that inspired the weak to defend themselves from the fascist murderers and their Western supporters.Russia didn’t say,”but only if it doesn’t hurt us will we help you”.Maybe they should of said that if that was what they meant.But they didn’t say that.The other day there was an article I heard of in the pro-Western Guardian (knowing the Guardian,I’m sure it was an anti-Russian article),that even said in a poll in Russia only 4% of the Russian people agreed Donbass should return to Ukrainian rule as it was before.That would mean, 96% of the people either didn’t agree with that or didn’t answer.By my estimate (purely from hearsay) around 10,000 Russian volunteers are among the 60-70,000 NAF fighters.And there are many thousands of Russian Donbass supporters in organizations inside Russia.They range throughout Russian society on all levels.From Communists,nationalists,government officials,military people,intelligence services,man on the street,and even a few oligarchs are pro-Donbass (of all places Siberia seems to have a huge amount of them).For Russia the problem is ,its nice and “cool” to be considered the head of the “Russian World”.To be looked at as the “elder brother”.It provides a few perks for the soul and self-esteem.But with that comes the responsibility to “be” and “act like” the elder brother.The one the others look up to,and for for protection from “bad bullies”.It’s not even a question,you are it.And so,if you want to keep your “street cred” among your people you act your part.You “walk the walk,not just talk the talk”.The Russian people seem to “get that” more than some in their government do.I don’t think I’d want to take bets on the long term survival of a government that betrayed those Russians.Especially when the 10,000 battle-hardened fighters returned home angry.
I think Putin is waiting for his mate Sarkozy to get re-elected in 2017 in France and end sanctions against Russia and also perhaps take France and Southern Europe out of NATO and the Euro.
There is also a UK exit from the EU referendum due in that same year.
It’s a shame for the people of Donbass but they might have another few years to wait for salvation from Russia.
That first initial tentative statement about ‘reserving the right’ to interfere in the sovereign Ukraine after the coup was, perhaps unfortunately, overruled by the fifth column in Russia…that was what I heard…
And again, using force is part of the enemies tools. I agree that defense is absolutely necessary and that pushing boundaries as defense is also part of defense….but to wipe out and kill the enemy is not part of Christian Russia’s overall plan for the earth as far as I can understand it.
Saudi-Russian Thaw Continues: Saudis to Invest $10 Billion in Russia Economy
“[..] The aforementioned amount of $ 10 billion will be invested [in Russia] over a period of four to five years, and the first seven deals have receive preliminary endorsement, and ten or so investments will be made before the end of this year, Kirill Dmitriyev said.”
“[..] RDIP [Russian Direct Investment Fund] has signed an agreement on partnership with the Saudi Arabian General Investment Authority (SAGIA) on bringing the Russian companies to the Saudi market.”
So… money talks, and that’s all that matters?
Screw the innocent people dieing left and right, because: “it’s nothing personal… it’s just good business.” Apparently…
Let’s hope Mark Sleboda is not put in the penalty box for letting too much inconvenient truth out. The anger in the Donbass and the fact that one can easily mark the events in the Ukraine as a big geopolitical win for the US being the most obvious. Yes, the game isn’t over yet, but if you look at the scoreboard at halftime, that is what you see. Peanuts and cookies to own the Ukraine is a steal, it is just the loss of the Crimea that is disappointing for the US.
It’s not only people of Donbass who are angry at Kremlin, but also Russian volunteers who one day will come home to Russia disillusioned with Kremlin’s policies. Also lets not forget bloggers from all over the world who can’t stand this unethical policy anymore and that might lead to PR defeat or more like self-defeat of Russia.
Do you remember when Putin told Donbas not to hold elections on independence? Clearly a sign that what happened is not the way Putin intended to handle the situation. I doubt volunteers had high expectations that Russia would invade — a good reason to volunteer, in fact.
No — I’m not going to listen to that propaganda from the FT.
reply to Mulga Mumblebrain, (problem with clicking reply under comment produces error)
and the same with Kasparov, when being ‘arrested’ in Moscow and being filmed he
addressed the camera directly in English, so that every Muscovite could understand him, naturally.
I remember someone commenting …who is he talking to? the West, of course,
and he still goes on TV talk shows spouting about how outside of Moscow
is a wasteland of failed soviet rusting factories and run down peasant hovels. pathetic.
Its not just the other town in your analogy is it.
Its like the other town has to consider a lot of other towns
as well as gather together the ways and means to successfully
and comprehensively resist and defeat the opposing band of
killers, and a rag tag bunch of lackeys and sycophants.
Who, incidentally, have a long and bloody record of creating
failed and chaotic ‘towns’ where ever they go, by calling it
“democracy”, “international community” and quoting
“international law”, which they dismiss just as it suits them..
on Fort Rus there is also an article reporting a cross party
group of MEPs are to visit Moscow….
seems as if the French Crimea visit opened the dyke
for others to stand up and be counted, hopefully NOT
to be blackmailed, threatened, NSA’ed, or otherwise
‘dealt with’.
French Lawmakers Surprised by ‘Happy’ Citizens in Crimea’s Yalta
A group of French lawmakers on a visit to Crimea said they were surprised by the level of happiness among the local population after talking to different residents of the Black Sea peninsula.
Crimea, which has a predominately ethnically-Russian population, split from Ukraine to rejoin Russia in March 2014 after a referendum in which 96 percent backed the secession. Kiev and its Western allies labeled this move an “annexation.”
“We saw happy people here who live in Crimea and have returned to Russia. We talked to young people. It’s a very different picture from what is shown in our countries. I saw such a warm welcome here. We had a completely different idea about Crimea [before the visit],” one of the 10 lawmakers told journalists after talking to residents of the Crimean city of Yalta.
The French lawmakers, led by lower-house National Assembly Foreign Affairs Committee member Thierry Mariani, said they had decided to make the trip to Crimea to get a sense of what is really going on in the Black Sea peninsula.
Both the French and Ukrainian governments have condemned the decision, considering it a breach of international law.
“We saw happy people here who live in Crimea and have returned to Russia. We talked to young people. It’s a very different picture from what is shown in our countries.”
The real picture always is very different from what the zio-media presents. The western zionazi msm is goebellsian propaganda on steroids.
French MPs ‘Put Paris Back in Its Place’ by Visiting Crimea – French Media
A delegation of ten French members of parliament (MPs) decided to visit Crimea to prove to the French government that it has a wrong political stance towards Russia and to “put Paris back in its place,” French daily Le Figaro reported.
The French lawmakers, led by lower-house National Assembly Foreign Affairs Committee member Thierry Mariani, said they came to Crimea to get a real sense of what is really going on in the Black Sea peninsula.
According to Mariani, the main goal of the visit is to find out the truth about recent developments in Crimea, as Western media has created a one-sided account of events following its reunification with Russia.
During their visit, the French MPs saw the local population living in peace and dismissed claims of any Russian “occupation” of Crimea.
“You always have to come to a place and see what is happening. During these two days, we have seen that there is no occupation, people are free. We have seen that it is a peaceful region, people live in peace,” said one of the parliamentarians.
Navalny is banned by the Russian authorities from participating in local elections in Novosibirsk, according to Serbian media :
http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2015&mm=07&dd=24&nav_category=78&nav_id=1019588
I mean, why ??!
Is he so popular? This kind of behaviour is not going to help Putin in the long run, I think .Of course I understand what Navalny stands for, but in a democratic country he should have a right to participate.
It looks like Russia is becoming more and more like China. Is that good, anyone?
Yes, it is good. Navalny is a traitor, an agent of the greatest force for evil in human history, the Atlanticist Reich. If Yeltsin had been stopped before his Quisling treachery, the entire world would be a better place. The ideal solution for the Navalny type of Quisling is expulsion to their spiritual Homeland in the glorious West.
Navalny is a criminal and a spy for hostile interests. How many countries allow such scum to propagandize electoral processes? Rhetorical question, the answer is 0. Well, outside of that circle-jerk club known as the ZPC/NWO, where it’s mandatory.
Wend,
Where is there a robust, free and open, easy to access democracy and electoral system with nominations from the grassroots?
Nowhere. Only your imagination conjures democracy like that.
All governments restrict access to power. That is what governments do.
To point to China is ridiculous.
Point to the billionaire-millionaire US elections, the corporate dominated system, the lobbyist corrupting system.
You want a walking-talking traitor who is a puppet for the enemy of Russia to have access to elections? For what purpose?
One of the cross-talkers made a disturbing statement, namely that many in Donbass, including the militia (now an army) are very angry at Russia for not helping them more (like Crimea?). I think this is unfair to Russia which has a huge task at hand in confronting the Empire. Like their Greek counterparts, the belly-ache’ers should take more responsibility for creating their situation. Russia is not going to let Donbass starve, unlike the US/EU overlords will relative to Ukraine. Simple fare can be good for the soul, like fasting in the Orthodox way. As for being out of work, work is not what it’s cracked up to be. Again, playing off Orthodoxy, we did not have to work in the Garden of Eden. At least Donbass may not be heating up the planet as much like they used to with their coal industry. Yes, getting shelled is life-threatening but they can always move, as many have. I’m no military analyst but I can tell a “hawk from a handsaw” (or handgun). I’d rather be in Donbass than Greece; at least I’d have my pride to keep me warm; and the EU can’t let one of their own starve, now can they? One thing for sure–I would not want to be in Ukraine.
Let’s say, you are living in a town your family has lived in for centuries.Your ancestors are buried there,its your land.All of a sudden a gang of murderers and thieves come to the towns near you.They say they now rule and if any object they will kill them.You hear of this,your neighbors and brothers in a town near you say they will help you and not to fear.Then the gang of killers moves into your town.You resist them and kick them out of town.They return with bigger numbers and start to murder your people in the town.You call on the neighbor town for the promised help.But now they say,they changed their minds.And instead you need to accept the rule of the murderous gang.After all,how bad can they be.Its not our fight.You just kneel to them,and let them rule you.Then yes,I think you might be a “bit” upset with the neighbor town.Russia “implied” (at the very least) that they would not let the fascists kill their people in Ukraine.It was that that inspired the weak to defend themselves from the fascist murderers and their Western supporters.Russia didn’t say,”but only if it doesn’t hurt us will we help you”.Maybe they should of said that if that was what they meant.But they didn’t say that.The other day there was an article I heard of in the pro-Western Guardian (knowing the Guardian,I’m sure it was an anti-Russian article),that even said in a poll in Russia only 4% of the Russian people agreed Donbass should return to Ukrainian rule as it was before.That would mean, 96% of the people either didn’t agree with that or didn’t answer.By my estimate (purely from hearsay) around 10,000 Russian volunteers are among the 60-70,000 NAF fighters.And there are many thousands of Russian Donbass supporters in organizations inside Russia.They range throughout Russian society on all levels.From Communists,nationalists,government officials,military people,intelligence services,man on the street,and even a few oligarchs are pro-Donbass (of all places Siberia seems to have a huge amount of them).For Russia the problem is ,its nice and “cool” to be considered the head of the “Russian World”.To be looked at as the “elder brother”.It provides a few perks for the soul and self-esteem.But with that comes the responsibility to “be” and “act like” the elder brother.The one the others look up to,and for for protection from “bad bullies”.It’s not even a question,you are it.And so,if you want to keep your “street cred” among your people you act your part.You “walk the walk,not just talk the talk”.The Russian people seem to “get that” more than some in their government do.I don’t think I’d want to take bets on the long term survival of a government that betrayed those Russians.Especially when the 10,000 battle-hardened fighters returned home angry.
I think Putin is waiting for his mate Sarkozy to get re-elected in 2017 in France and end sanctions against Russia and also perhaps take France and Southern Europe out of NATO and the Euro.
There is also a UK exit from the EU referendum due in that same year.
It’s a shame for the people of Donbass but they might have another few years to wait for salvation from Russia.
That first initial tentative statement about ‘reserving the right’ to interfere in the sovereign Ukraine after the coup was, perhaps unfortunately, overruled by the fifth column in Russia…that was what I heard…
And again, using force is part of the enemies tools. I agree that defense is absolutely necessary and that pushing boundaries as defense is also part of defense….but to wipe out and kill the enemy is not part of Christian Russia’s overall plan for the earth as far as I can understand it.
@ Uncle B; [I’ve been reading some folks were having glitches with their reply button… so, that’s why I’m re-sending this today]
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While Russia won’t act or can’t act in the Donbass…
…how do we square this circle:
“It’s Raining Missiles. A Nightmare that Refuses to End!” – Testimony from the War in Yemen
http://www.globalresearch.ca/its-raining-missiles-a-nightmare-that-refuses-to-end-testimony-from-the-war-in-yemen/5464220
and then there’s this:
Saudi-Russian Thaw Continues: Saudis to Invest $10 Billion in Russia Economy
“[..] The aforementioned amount of $ 10 billion will be invested [in Russia] over a period of four to five years, and the first seven deals have receive preliminary endorsement, and ten or so investments will be made before the end of this year, Kirill Dmitriyev said.”
“[..] RDIP [Russian Direct Investment Fund] has signed an agreement on partnership with the Saudi Arabian General Investment Authority (SAGIA) on bringing the Russian companies to the Saudi market.”
http://russia-insider.com/en/saudi-russian-thaw-continues-saudis-invest-10-billion-russia-economy/ri8557
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So… money talks, and that’s all that matters?
Screw the innocent people dieing left and right, because: “it’s nothing personal… it’s just good business.” Apparently…
-TL2Q
Thanks Uncle Bob 1.
This is an interesting article from anti-Russian Moscow Times, but the facts they state are similar to Colonel Cassads.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/rebel-infighting-bringing-chaos-to-east-ukraine/526305.html
Let’s hope Mark Sleboda is not put in the penalty box for letting too much inconvenient truth out. The anger in the Donbass and the fact that one can easily mark the events in the Ukraine as a big geopolitical win for the US being the most obvious. Yes, the game isn’t over yet, but if you look at the scoreboard at halftime, that is what you see. Peanuts and cookies to own the Ukraine is a steal, it is just the loss of the Crimea that is disappointing for the US.
Really, Mark Sleboda is angry, and would make an excellent warrior for Donbass. Why isn’t he there ?
It’s not only people of Donbass who are angry at Kremlin, but also Russian volunteers who one day will come home to Russia disillusioned with Kremlin’s policies. Also lets not forget bloggers from all over the world who can’t stand this unethical policy anymore and that might lead to PR defeat or more like self-defeat of Russia.
Do you remember when Putin told Donbas not to hold elections on independence? Clearly a sign that what happened is not the way Putin intended to handle the situation. I doubt volunteers had high expectations that Russia would invade — a good reason to volunteer, in fact.
No — I’m not going to listen to that propaganda from the FT.
reply to Mulga Mumblebrain, (problem with clicking reply under comment produces error)
and the same with Kasparov, when being ‘arrested’ in Moscow and being filmed he
addressed the camera directly in English, so that every Muscovite could understand him, naturally.
I remember someone commenting …who is he talking to? the West, of course,
and he still goes on TV talk shows spouting about how outside of Moscow
is a wasteland of failed soviet rusting factories and run down peasant hovels. pathetic.
reply to Uncle Bob 1
Its not just the other town in your analogy is it.
Its like the other town has to consider a lot of other towns
as well as gather together the ways and means to successfully
and comprehensively resist and defeat the opposing band of
killers, and a rag tag bunch of lackeys and sycophants.
Who, incidentally, have a long and bloody record of creating
failed and chaotic ‘towns’ where ever they go, by calling it
“democracy”, “international community” and quoting
“international law”, which they dismiss just as it suits them..
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on Fort Rus there is also an article reporting a cross party
group of MEPs are to visit Moscow….
seems as if the French Crimea visit opened the dyke
for others to stand up and be counted, hopefully NOT
to be blackmailed, threatened, NSA’ed, or otherwise
‘dealt with’.