Good Crosstalk.
Both guests are interesting, and funny!!
Quite a lot of humor here, plus some real conviction, from Peter and from both guests.
Glad that Peter called out the Trump/facsism meme–a humorous way.
What do these people think we have now in this country?
Gilbert Doctorow is smart, considered . . . and funny! I like him more and more.
Vlad Golstein is says it like it is, and throws in some funny comments, too, all salted with his cute accent. Smarties come in many stripes at Brown, obviously.
Truly glorious! Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy was that democracies should attack and conquer non-democratic states, in order to make them democratic – because only democratic states are peaceful!
That neo-cons are threatening to “jump party” and vote for Clinton against Trump. That should tell us “everything” we need to know about the election. The warmongers are very happy with Clinton,because they believe they “own her”. So if she is elected we should, as people,prepare ourselves for the “strong likelihood” of war,possibly nuclear coming our way.
The thing is the Neocon cabal – the exceptional hegemonists, are embedded in the political machinery of state regardless of which political party wins the White House, Senate or Congress. Their influence and control continues regardless of who wins the Presidency. They just need a candidate who is on board with their hegemonic world view (such as Hillary), or malleable (such as Obama). Where they start to freak out is the prospect of a maverick independent such as Trump or an honest man with integrity such as Sanders – neither of whom they can be sure to control.
Much is made of the insanity of the warmongers, given the complete mess their policies create. Much as I like the analogy of the alcoholic unfortunately there is a deadly serious blueprint being played out. The Neocons, and their corporate backers life work is the premise of a US controlled globalised economy where all barriers to US ability to exploit the resources and peoples of the world are removed. Country by country they seek to destroy sovereignty, independence, and patriotic leadership. Where any country has the temerity to stand up for their own sovereignty and welfare, they are fair targets for regime change by one means or another and reduce them to vassal states. The Neocons on behalf of the predatory tiny elite who now control the resources of so much of the world, see the globe as their rightful hunting ground and themselves as the annointed vanguard of this imperialist order.
Interesting. Unfortunately, since the NYT has been in bed with the neocons all along during the Iraq war+Libya+ Syria, I’m wondering why that piece is there!
None of us really know what will happen if there is a Trump POTUS, but so far, the fact that the establishment forces are so anti-trump that he may be worth a shot! I’m just trying to come up with “reasons or excuses” to vote Trump, with the obvious disclaimer that we dont really knows what he will do if he becomes president (No One Does, may be even Trump himself does not know!)
1. The neocons and the establishment hates him, so that could be he’s not under their control!
2. He has on occasions actually sounded relative sane on a few foreign policy topics, e.g. Ukraine, Israel-Palestinian conflict, etc
3. Another “plus” is the fact that he is actually loathed by Rest of World! USA has been able to fool rest of the world with all their past President’s “politically correct” speeches, while doing the exact opposite, causing deaths of millions and millions more broken families and refugees, but they have been able to get away with it precisely because the rest of world, esp the stupid EU countries, just tag along, claiming they are “doing good”, when in fact all they do is cause more death and destruction. Thus at the very least, there is a chance that a Trump President will sow sufficient “disgust” with so many foreign leaders that they will stop doing everything that the USA wants them to do!
4. He is so hated by most of the brained washed “left” that perhaps his presidency will bring back widespread opposition from the left as during the Vietnam war days, I think that would be great!
Folks, if you feel there are other possible “pluses”, please feel free to add to the above!
Good Crosstalk.
Both guests are interesting, and funny!!
Quite a lot of humor here, plus some real conviction, from Peter and from both guests.
Glad that Peter called out the Trump/facsism meme–a humorous way.
What do these people think we have now in this country?
Gilbert Doctorow is smart, considered . . . and funny! I like him more and more.
Vlad Golstein is says it like it is, and throws in some funny comments, too, all salted with his cute accent. Smarties come in many stripes at Brown, obviously.
Katherine
Truly glorious! Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy was that democracies should attack and conquer non-democratic states, in order to make them democratic – because only democratic states are peaceful!
That neo-cons are threatening to “jump party” and vote for Clinton against Trump. That should tell us “everything” we need to know about the election. The warmongers are very happy with Clinton,because they believe they “own her”. So if she is elected we should, as people,prepare ourselves for the “strong likelihood” of war,possibly nuclear coming our way.
The thing is the Neocon cabal – the exceptional hegemonists, are embedded in the political machinery of state regardless of which political party wins the White House, Senate or Congress. Their influence and control continues regardless of who wins the Presidency. They just need a candidate who is on board with their hegemonic world view (such as Hillary), or malleable (such as Obama). Where they start to freak out is the prospect of a maverick independent such as Trump or an honest man with integrity such as Sanders – neither of whom they can be sure to control.
Much is made of the insanity of the warmongers, given the complete mess their policies create. Much as I like the analogy of the alcoholic unfortunately there is a deadly serious blueprint being played out. The Neocons, and their corporate backers life work is the premise of a US controlled globalised economy where all barriers to US ability to exploit the resources and peoples of the world are removed. Country by country they seek to destroy sovereignty, independence, and patriotic leadership. Where any country has the temerity to stand up for their own sovereignty and welfare, they are fair targets for regime change by one means or another and reduce them to vassal states. The Neocons on behalf of the predatory tiny elite who now control the resources of so much of the world, see the globe as their rightful hunting ground and themselves as the annointed vanguard of this imperialist order.
“maverick independent such as Trump or an honest man with integrity such as Sanders”
This seems to sum the two up perfectly.
Trump trumps all GoldmanSachs candidates, because he loves Israel more than they do. Yawn.
The NY Times is taking up the same subject:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/opinion/sunday/the-neocons-vs-donald-trump.html
Interesting. Unfortunately, since the NYT has been in bed with the neocons all along during the Iraq war+Libya+ Syria, I’m wondering why that piece is there!
None of us really know what will happen if there is a Trump POTUS, but so far, the fact that the establishment forces are so anti-trump that he may be worth a shot! I’m just trying to come up with “reasons or excuses” to vote Trump, with the obvious disclaimer that we dont really knows what he will do if he becomes president (No One Does, may be even Trump himself does not know!)
1. The neocons and the establishment hates him, so that could be he’s not under their control!
2. He has on occasions actually sounded relative sane on a few foreign policy topics, e.g. Ukraine, Israel-Palestinian conflict, etc
3. Another “plus” is the fact that he is actually loathed by Rest of World! USA has been able to fool rest of the world with all their past President’s “politically correct” speeches, while doing the exact opposite, causing deaths of millions and millions more broken families and refugees, but they have been able to get away with it precisely because the rest of world, esp the stupid EU countries, just tag along, claiming they are “doing good”, when in fact all they do is cause more death and destruction. Thus at the very least, there is a chance that a Trump President will sow sufficient “disgust” with so many foreign leaders that they will stop doing everything that the USA wants them to do!
4. He is so hated by most of the brained washed “left” that perhaps his presidency will bring back widespread opposition from the left as during the Vietnam war days, I think that would be great!
Folks, if you feel there are other possible “pluses”, please feel free to add to the above!