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CrossTalk: Russia-Bashing

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  1. natoistan on November 05, 2015  ·  at 3:38 am EST/EDT

    Russia Prepares for Further US Sanctions as Putin Prepares More Military Action.

    The toothless American sanctions imposed by the Mullah in Chief of the United States Obama are about to get serious as it would appear Vladimir Putin is preparing his nation for further, more severe economic sanctions (via RT):
    Putin signs law allowing retaliatory sequestration of foreign property in Russia

    Russia’s president has signed legislation enabling countermeasures in the case of the wrongful arrest of Russian state property abroad. The law, based on reciprocity, curtails the jurisdictional immunity of the country in question if not agreed otherwise.

    The document was published on Russia’s official legal information website and therefore has come into effect.

    According to the new law, the jurisdictional immunities of a foreign state and its property could be limited on the territory of Russia on the principle of mutuality, in the case that the jurisdictional immunity of Russia has been found to be suffering limitations on the sovereign territory of that country.

    The provisions of the law would not be applied if Russia and the other country have reached an agreement to act differently.

    The judicial immunity of a foreign entity that has filed a legal action, entered legal argument or has taken any other substantive action in a Russian court will be considered revoked.

    The revoking of a foreign country’s judicial immunity in any given legal argument is irrevocable and will be applied to all stages of judicial examinations.

    This is a polite and diplomatic method of stating the following:

    If anyone dares to impose economic sanctions on the Russian Federation, Russia will seize the financial property of the offending nation and hold it or liquidate it as necessary to serve Moscow’s needs.

    This is not just a warning to any nation not to try to intimidate or threaten Russia; this is in fact a notice from Vladimir Putin and his government that they are preparing to take military action of a drastic nature, perhaps in Syria or the Donbas which will so utterly shock the West that further sanctions will be called on by the Obama regime.

    Financial markets as a result could get quite interesting in the next few weeks as a result if economic warfare breaks out as the Middle East War against ISIS and other Arab agents expands dramatically.

    http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2015/11/04/russia-prepares-for-further-us-sanctions-as-putin-prepares-for-more-military-action/

    • zweistein on November 05, 2015  ·  at 6:50 am EST/EDT

      ” this is in fact a notice from Vladimir Putin and his government that they are preparing to take military action of a drastic nature, perhaps in Syria or the Donbas which will so utterly shock the West that further sanctions will be called on by the Obama regime.”

      Pure fantasy by the author.

      • Michel on November 05, 2015  ·  at 9:27 am EST/EDT

        há evidências que demonstram que essa é uma realidade plausível…

    • Anonymous on November 05, 2015  ·  at 2:30 pm EST/EDT

      And still not one sanction against a single U.S. corporation… I’ll bet Russians are like the Chinese, they would kill their own mother to have the latest iPhone, they watch hours of Hollywood crap each day, they wear Nikes on their way to McDonald’s, KFC, etc.

      • alan on November 05, 2015  ·  at 8:16 pm EST/EDT

        er, just curious, how many chinese mothers have been killed for iphone?

    • Uncle Bob 1 on November 05, 2015  ·  at 7:58 pm EST/EDT

      I dob’t see that new law the same way as the article does.The law was purposed after foreign courts started arresting Russian state property over the Yukos law suits.And is a warning to foreign states over that.While it “possibly” could be used over sanctions .I think its doubtful that it would be.Unless the sanctions turned to seizing Russian property and funds and not just restricting trade.

    • Anonymous on November 07, 2015  ·  at 4:48 am EST/EDT

      if seize countrys property does it use military and aggrivats so sanctions agrivate and reply to.and notice not warn. of more military action in dunbas syra is it same build up as west and as west futher moves?

  2. vot tak on November 05, 2015  ·  at 5:26 am EST/EDT

    Putin signs law allowing retaliatory sequestration of foreign property in Russia

    https://www.rt.com/politics/320741-putin-property-sequestration-abroad/

  3. vot tak on November 05, 2015  ·  at 5:34 am EST/EDT

    This is an interesting way to neutralize negative Israeli-American influence.

    20 detained in plot to assassinate Chechen leader Kadyrov

    https://www.rt.com/politics/320609-20-detained-over-plot-to/

    No wonder zionazis hate Kadyrov so intensely. :D

  4. vot tak on November 05, 2015  ·  at 6:19 am EST/EDT

    “Forbes Fiddles With the Figures on Russians’ Support for Syrian Campaign

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151031/1029384965/russians-public-opinion-survey-syria.html#ixzz3qazgJ5f2

    I suspect that Forbes, Fox News and faggot all beginning with the letter F could be more than just a coincidence. ;D

    • Anonymous on November 05, 2015  ·  at 7:08 am EST/EDT

      “I suspect that Forbes, Fox News and faggot all beginning with the letter F could be more than just a coincidence. ;D”

      Now you’re talking VT.
      Appreciate your link confirming the first post concerning the sequestration law.
      Blowback is becoming serious.

      • Peter on November 05, 2015  ·  at 7:22 am EST/EDT

        Forgot to add my name on that reply to Vot Tak

      • Felicity on November 05, 2015  ·  at 7:11 pm EST/EDT

        “I suspect that Forbes, Fox News and faggot all beginning with the letter F could be more than just a coincidence. ;D”

        Groan, not exactly a thoughtful comment vot tak…
        Removed – no attacking other commenters please. Stick to the topic with factual responses please. Mod TR.

        The impoverishment and debasement of language are the saddest indictment of our time.

        • Felicity on November 05, 2015  ·  at 9:12 pm EST/EDT

          Re: Removed – no attacking other commenters please. Stick to the topic with factual responses please. Mod TR.

          It was no attack, not by any stretch of the imagination. Why not include the whole post and let other commentators decide?

          • Anonymous on November 06, 2015  ·  at 9:07 am EST/EDT

            Yes, it is always a good idea to keep things factual.

            The Sun and the serenest Moon sprang forth:
            The burning stars of the abyss were hurled
            Into the depths of Heaven. The daedal earth,
            That island in the ocean of the world,
            Hung in its cloud of all-sustaining air:
            But this divinest universe
            Was yet a chaos and a curse,
            For thou wert not: but, power from worst producing worse,
            The spirit of the beasts was kindled there,
            And of the birds, and of the watery forms,
            And there was war among them, and despair
            Within them, raging without truce or terms:
            The bosom of their violated nurse
            Groaned, for beasts warred on beasts, and worms on worms,
            And men on men; each heart was as a hell of storms…

            (from Ode to Liberty, P.B Shelley)

          • Katherine on November 07, 2015  ·  at 3:06 pm EST/EDT

            @”It was no attack, not by any stretch of the imagination. Why not include the whole post and let other commentators decide?”

            Weeelll, since it was removed, we don’t know, but I think we can assume that it was an attack.
            Let the moderators do their job.
            Katherine

    • Ewan on November 05, 2015  ·  at 10:06 am EST/EDT

      So, if it’s not a coincidence, what?

      A conspiracy to begin certain words with an “F”? Who are the conspirators? What do they hope to achieve?

      Or a divine ordinance that the languages of Man will include words that begin with “F”? And it was so.

      And those words shall be mysteriously linked. For those with eyes to see…

      Or, more prosaically, not by divine esoteric communication, but by inexorable logic, you are led to conclude that the letter “F” signifies that Forbes and Fox, as purveyors of propaganda, must be…”faggots” (“Stands to reason!”)

      – like feminists, Free Church elders on the isle of Lewis, Finns, fornicators, definitely,especially when more than one sex is involved…

      Or just a pathetic boorish insult? (That may be what you intended. One can’t rule it out, although we must strive to put those who comment here in the best possible light. It’s only polite.)

      What interpretation can make your comment other than an embarrassment?

  5. Ann on November 05, 2015  ·  at 7:48 am EST/EDT

    Interesting discussion on the Ron Paul Liberty Report about the German Migrant Crisis…I learned quite a bit

    https://youtu.be/ED9nEqPuHTA

    • Dennis Leary on November 05, 2015  ·  at 5:09 pm EST/EDT

      Thanks for the link to Liberty Report. Ron Paul makes a lot of sense and he is refreshingly up-beat about the hidden, long-term benefits of these chaotic times.

      One thing did puzzle me about that striking moving map. A significant number of migrants seemed to be exiting Russia towards Europe. Perhaps I’m misreading.

    • Dennis Leary on November 05, 2015  ·  at 5:50 pm EST/EDT

      How is Russian bashing different from US blaming?

      I think it stems from the level of maturity of both countries. Russia has a long history and a large memory and land mass. The US has a short history if any at all and is slowly destroying its own considerable land mass.

      The US is like a spoiled child who needs a commie-book enemy, having used up the natives and the blacks. Having no roots of its own it must destroy the standing of a perceived enemy per the dynamic of “misery loves company.” Hence the projection.

      Russia has been through all this before many times. She smiles like the Mona Lisa at such childish, adolescent behavior.

      Regarding the comment above about Russia needing a Roman Scipio, I’d say she already has one in Putin, although in a more multi-polar fashion.

      Deep down the US needs to hide its mortal fear and moral sin; and that something rotten in its den within. Bashing a made-up Hitler redux is a Weapon of Mass Distraction from devastating self-knowledge.

      Hillary: Putin is a Hitler with no heart.
      Putin: if you are the head of a state department you at least should have a head.

      • Dennis Leary on November 05, 2015  ·  at 8:25 pm EST/EDT

        The above should be to the extreme left, not under Ann.

    • Anonymous on November 06, 2015  ·  at 6:13 am EST/EDT

      I wish Ron Paul had touched on the monetary system being the main reason why europe is the destination. The european is clueless as to how wealth came his way and not the rest of the world. Same actors who engineered the crisis were same creators of the monetary system, a system giving wealth to europe, a europe to be exploited by the zionists to achieve their goal (world goverment in Jerusalam). They are done with europe and they want to destroy it from within.

  6. Anonymous on November 05, 2015  ·  at 10:08 am EST/EDT

    Assad aint no porkey for sure.. Instead of killing people who he don’t like Assad has standing orders for the army to take any Syrian alive if possible. Even if they are shooting at them.

    If Bashar al-Assad were indeed a brutal tyrant, he and his army would have been abandoned by Syrians and defeated long ago. According to Western media reports, President Assad, the head of an ‘Alawi regime,’ has launched repeated bombings of civilian areas, gassed children and cracked down on the freedom-loving “moderate” opposition.

    “Central to the Bashar myth are two closely related stories: that of the ‘moderate rebel’ and the story that conjures ‘Assad loyalists’ or ‘regime forces’ in place of a large, dedicated national army, with broad popular support,” Anderson elaborated.

    Contrary to the Western media narrative, the Syrian Arab Army has much popular support. Furthermore, most of Syrians displaced by the conflict have not fled the country but moved to other parts of it under army protection, the Australian academic stressed, adding that numerous stories of the atrocities allegedly committed by the Syrian Arab Army turned out to be false.

    Even so-called “moderate” Syrian rebels recognized that the Syrian President and the government forces have about ’70 percent’ support, as quoted by Western media outlets.

    Meanwhile, the so-called Free Syrian Army brigades, particularly that of Farouk, were spotted blowing up hospitals, conducting ethnic cleansing, killing Alawis and suppressing peaceful civilians.

    The Australian academic underscored that during the Syrian presidential elections, held in June 2014, Assad received almost 88 percent of votes, despite the war. The high participation rate — 73 percent — also dealt a severe blow to the positions of Assad’s antagonists.

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151103/1029549034/assad-high-public-support-syria-elections.html

  7. Stavros H on November 05, 2015  ·  at 1:11 pm EST/EDT

    Gradual Escalation is continuing steadily.

    1) The downing of the Russian passenger plane over Egypt has so far been the most brazen act of escalation on the part of the Empire of Filth.

    2) The use of US Special Forces as human-shields for NATO-backed jihadis in Syria is another one.

    3) The transfer of A-10 and F-15 warplanes in Turkey is yet another.

    4) The increased supplies of TOWs, another one.

    Now, at what pace and with what particular steps will Russia respond to the Empire of Faggots is anyone’s guess (which is precisely the whole point)

    But as things stand, only by taking the bloodbath on Turkish and Saudi soil will real leverage over the Empire of Cowards be established. This can easily be done via proxies.

    The example of Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus in the 2nd Punic War of Rome against Carthage has been cited by at least one Russian commentator so far. I agree with him. Russia will in the end need the equivalent of the Battle of Zara.

    • RR on November 05, 2015  ·  at 7:27 pm EST/EDT

      It seems to me Russia is doing with next to nothing thanks to their defensive capacity ad denial of entry..NATO while not harmless really knows they can never win a proxie war against Russia in the M.E I was most impressed with the paratrooper exercised this year and how quickly they can be mobilized. It took CNN and NATO a year to get ready for Iraq……that is why they are playing media wars and terrorist games…Outside of all out nuclear war….that is all they got! Or Russia would not be in Syria right now.
      Cheers,
      RR

  8. Jack on November 05, 2015  ·  at 4:55 pm EST/EDT

    OT, but very important (and very encouraging) if true:

    Breaking: Syrian army routs ISIS, reopens road to Aleppo

    http://off-guardian.org/2015/11/04/breaking-syrian-army-routs-isis-reopens-road-to-aleppo/

    “The SAA has reopened the previously obstructed supply route to Aleppo after entirely banishing ISIS from the Hama-Aleppo road. Earlier, government troops from both sides initiated the finale offensive and met each other in the middle; leaving ISIS fighters with head over heels – even getting bombed by the Russian Air Force during their retreat. Tons of food is being transported by truck to Aleppo as we speak. “

    • alan on November 05, 2015  ·  at 8:20 pm EST/EDT

      yes, fortruss has this video, showing the SAA clearing land mines etc along the highway.
      http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/11/syrian-arab-army-secure-khanasirithriya.html

  9. juliania on November 05, 2015  ·  at 5:16 pm EST/EDT

    Thank you again, Saker, for featuring another important Crosstalk for discussion on your site. The subject, I had thought, was one which we all can offer opinion on, and seemed to my mind rather a stale one. On the contrary, the well spoken guests all had important things to say and made the most of their time to do so. I will watch it again.

    Mr. Doctorow’s point about the importance of Syria was well taken, and it reminded me of Saker’s past observation that Russia doesn’t talk; it acts. Well, indeed, Russia does talk, I think, when anyone is prepared to listen to them. A teacher of mine (who was Russian) said once that the important thing when rehearsing a choir or teaching a class was always to leave the participants wanting more. It’s a very Russian trait, I think, that turns the participants in the direction given in Gospel texts: he who has ears to hear, let him hear. It takes a while, like the turning of a massive ship, but it indeed is the best teaching method of all, because once you have turned in the right direction, you really do hear what is being said – because you are eager to hear it.

    Good Crosstalk; well done, RT!

    • Katherine on November 07, 2015  ·  at 3:11 pm EST/EDT

      I really like Gil Doctorow.
      He can think in paragraphs, and each paragraph has a topic sentence.

      Katherine

  10. know the truth on November 05, 2015  ·  at 7:27 pm EST/EDT

    The US/Turkey/Saudi/Israeli axis of pure filth can forget all about any “no fly zones” over Syria they may have been contemplating. According to Lieutenant General Viktor Bondarev , commander in chief of Russias air force in an article today carried in RT News :

    Russia’s Air Force has secured Syrian airspace with air defense missile systems that were delivered and deployed into the war-torn country along with other military hardware.
    We figured out all possible threats in advance, that’s why we brought not only fighter jets, strike-fighters and helicopters, but also air defense missile weapon systems,” Viktor Bondarev, the chief of Russia’s Air Force, told Komsomolskaya Pravda daily, adding that all kinds of force majeure circumstances should be expected.

    Now who possibly could that message have been sent to ? ISIS doesn’t have an air force (at least not officially). Lets see how the “exceptionals” react to that statement. They are too cowardly and gutless to actually face up to any nation with the capability of giving them an extremely bloody nose so they would rather retaliate through the use of their terrorist pals. Pathetic.

    • SanctuaryOne on November 05, 2015  ·  at 9:44 pm EST/EDT

      Looks like some UK vassal attempt (Cameron lackey) to humiliate Putin and perhaps hopes to cause his popularity to suffer in Russia. Egypt too. Perhaps he needs to review history and Russia.

      Unless the UK knows something nobody else does about Metrojet 9268 (or somehow precipitated the salting of debris with explosive residue) it looks like the subject has been weaponised.

      http://www.torontosun.com/2015/11/05/britain-says-islamic-state-likely-brought-down-russian-plane

      (The Sun chain are right-wing tabloids)

  11. alan on November 05, 2015  ·  at 8:53 pm EST/EDT

    great, the war criminal Cheney to be immortalized with a statue(“bust”) in Capitol Hill.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dick-cheney-statue_563a8e80e4b0b24aee48e5a2

  12. JJ on November 05, 2015  ·  at 8:57 pm EST/EDT

    http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2683595&cid=8

    link to rus language news—-Ukr Rada signs of tensions and latest madness-male deputy gets angry and smashes glass bottle on top of lady deputy’s head……..

  13. eimar on November 05, 2015  ·  at 11:38 pm EST/EDT

    Ewan,

    “What interpretation can make your comment
    other than an embarrassment? ”

    How about not taking it so ‘eFfing’ seriously? Bot Tak is just letting off steam.

    Has the relentless Anglophone media promotion of paraphilias – under the fig-leaf of LGBT ‘rights’ – totally escaped you? Have you failed to notice this alphabet soup of ever-expanding ‘identities’ and ‘preferences’ is chipping away at universal child protection ?

    Or that they spend much of their donor money infiltrating the class room – now kindergarten – through sex ‘education’? Or that both the target age group and nature of this ‘education’ is actually identical to the grooming ‘techniques’ of pdos, whatever their sex preferences?

    How come your moral compass isn’t registering this:

    https://c-fam.org/friday_fax/un-agency-includes-ten-year-old-boys-in-definition-of-gay-behavior/

  14. Anonymous on November 06, 2015  ·  at 6:25 am EST/EDT

    ISIS exposed http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.php/jahcubites-a-world-rule/1174-isis-exposed-shocking-interview

  15. Anonymous on November 06, 2015  ·  at 6:49 pm EST/EDT

    Russophobia goes back to the time when Russia was expanding eastward and the Brits were very alarmed when the Russians got too close for comfort to their holdings in Afghanistan. So, yes, Russophobia begins and ends with ‘England.’

  16. Katherine on November 07, 2015  ·  at 4:17 am EST/EDT

    Whee!
    So glad to hear Peter in WAshington’s slapdown of Masha Gessen.
    Can’t stand taht b—- (or her brother (that is, their self-serving writings and posturings).
    Terrible record of both of the on writing on Ukraine/Maidan.
    Because they were born in Russia and speak Russian they monopolize a portion of the Western airwaves with their creidibilty as Russia experts, and they use this position to demonize and ridicule. Horrible pair. Thanks, Peter!!!.
    Katherine

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