Regular readers of the blog know that I separate our poor and long-suffering planet into two basic parts: Zone A, aka the AngloZionist Empire, aka the World Hegemony aka the “Axis of Kindness” and what I call Zone B, or the Free World. Very approximately, we need to separate the ruling elites and the people they rule over separately. Here is, very roughly, what we get:
| Zone A | Zone B | |
| Ruling elites | Hate Russia/Putin | Some fear the Hegemony, but others don’t |
| People | Mostly indifferent or hostile | Mostly support Russia/Putin |
Next, I propose to make a simple thought experiment. Let’s assume that Russia loses the war against NATO. We do *not* need to spell out how exactly such a defeat could/would happen, we simply assume that Russia is unable to achieve her goals of denazification and demilitarization of the Ukraine (and, really, all of NATO), that NATO forces are successful in defeating the Russian military machine (again, it does not matter how, with or without amazing Wunderwaffen) and that Russia very clearly loses.
We don’t even need to define what “defeat” would mean? Maybe we can imagine that Russia gets keep Crimea, but loses all her recently liberated regions from the former Ukraine, or maybe NATO manages to even occupy Crimea. I don’t see NATO tanks in downtown Moscow, but we can even imagine a purely psychological defeat in which both sides believe that Russia has lost and NATO won.
Again, details, no matter how improbable and far removed from reality, do not matter. What matters is only this: once all the four groups above realize that NATO has defeated Russia, how would they react?
For the leaders of the Hegemony, this would be a dream come true. In fact, the Neocons running the Hegemony will most likely decide that they need to “finish the job” which they did not finish in the 90s, and that Russia needs to be broken up into several parts. This would be the West’s latest “final solution” for the “Russian problem”.
For the leaders of the Free World, a Russian defeat would signal that there are no alternatives to the Hegemony and that like it or not, the AngloZionists will rule the planet. Like the Borg in Star Trek like to proclaim: “We are the Hegemony. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.”
For most people in the Free world, a Russian defeat would be a crushing disappointment for the simple reason that most people would see the AngloZionist plan for what it is: get Russia first, then take on and bring down China and then, eventually, Iran and any other nation daring to disobey the rulers of the Hegemony.
Clearly, this is not about the Ukraine, this is about the future of mankind as a whole.
But what about the people in Zone A who currently already live under the AngloZionist yoke?
[Quick reminder: I have decided, for various reasons, not to discuss internal US politics on the Saker blog and I will try hard to stick to this rule. Still, I will state the obvious: we all now know the outcome of the latest elections in the USA and the adults in the room understand what happened, no need to list various truisms here. If there is anybody reading this who would sincerely believe that some variation of the Neocon Uniparty in power will change things for the better or even slow down the inevitable collapse I would recommend that this person stop reading here. Now for the rest of us:]
I think that the initial reaction of most people in Zone A will be a mix of relief (“Of course I knew that the West would win!“) and indifference (transgender issues are SO much more important!): their valiant “finest fighting force in the history of the world” kicked some rooskie commie ass which most definitely deserved some ass-kicking. Some of the most sanguine defenders of the “Western civilization” will even drop by our comments section and gloat “ha! ha! told you! your Putin and his clueless generals got their asses kicked by the most bestest US and NATO generals!“. And for a while, they will feel really good. Vindicated: finally the dumbshit stupid Russians will pay the price for electing and supporting such a weak, indecisive, naive, corrupt, incompetent (and possibly even dying of cancer) leader!
And if only the Kremlin had had the wisdom to listen to its “Western friends”!
But no, the Kremlin did not, and now there is going to be hell to pay. Of course, if Russia’s “Western friends” had been in charge, they would have executed a lightening fast blitzkrieg a long time ago, smashed Banderastan into smithereens (à la Fallujah if you wish) and quickly and decisively defeated NATO. But those clueless idiots in the Kremlin did not listen, and so they deserve what is coming next.
Okay, fair enough.
But what about the regular people in Zone A? The ones whose “side” supposedly “won”?
Once the initial bliss and celebrations are over, what will happen to them next?
Anybody want to take a guess? If so, please post your thoughts in the comments section below.
My personal take is that after the defeat of Russia, the defeat of China (by whatever means) would be next. Once that happens, all of the following will become decapitated and irrelevant: BRICS, SCO, CSTO. The next country on the Hegemony’s kill list is Iran which, having lost the backing of both Russia and China will not be able to successfully challenge the Hegemony. That, in turn will have major consequences for the entire Middle-East. Wannabe Pasha Erdogan would be very quickly brought to heel. Ditto for MBS.
The Israelis will feel like they “fixed the universe” well enough and that their Moshiach must be next :-)
With Russia and China out of the way, Central Asia would be frankly easy picking for the Hegemony. In fact, all the Russian limitrophes would quickly be absorbed into the Hegemony.
The same goes for Pakistan and India, who would quickly lose most (or even all) of their sovereignty. Afghanistan will be handed over to the (US-backed and run) ISIS. Eventually, both Latin America and Africa will be fully recolonized (to the immense relief and joy of the local comprador class).
Now I submit that anybody with a modicum of information and intelligence will agree that the gang of woke freaks currently running the USA and almost every EU country out there don’t give a damn about the people they rule over: they see them only as means of production, in other words, as slaves who need to be given sufficient amounts of (bad) food and immense amounts of (truly demonic) “entertainment” to keep them nice, and happy and, above all, obedient and ignorant. So here comes my question:
With Zone B gone, what hope for a better future, if any, could the slaves of the AngloZionist Hegemony keep in their hearts if our entire planet turns into Zone A?
The current repressive apparatus available to the US ruling class which includes 17 “intelligence” agencies, the biggest military aggression budget on the planet, the highest number of prisoners kept in jails, the total informational control provided by Google, Amazon, Netflix, Facebook, Twitter, etc. etc. etc. militarized police forces and other agencies ready to deal with “internal terrorists” (sometimes defined as any MAGA person), and a school and college system designed to create obedient office plankton (white collar) and fast food employees (blue collar) with almost no awareness, nevermind any understanding, of the outside world. EU states are not quite there (yet) but they are catching up fast.
This is not a system which will simply collapse by itself or, even less so, be overthrown by its “deplorables”.
I have mentioned this many times in the past: the US political system is neither viable nor reformable.
The EU political system is basically an extension of the US political system, just with a more strongly pronounced colonial mindset (“fuck the EU” right?).
So will the Hegemony turn our entire planet into a giant and “woke” Disney World run by Neocons?
Not as long as Russia, China, Iran and others are standing firm. But if these “resisting nations” are crushed, then its show over for the people of Zone A whose slavery will not only last even much longer, but whose living conditions will further rapidly deteriorate.
And once the “bread and games” thingie fails, you can bet that violent repression is next.
ANY regime which seriously aims at colonizing the entire planet (which the Hegemony undoubtedly does!) will ALWAYS keep its own population in slave-like conditions, materially, culturally and spiritually.
So, to paraphrase Malcolm X, the only hope for the House Negros still remains the Field Negro. Whether the House Negros themselves understand that or not is immaterial.
Let me rephrase this in an even more shocking way: the last and only hope for the people of the USA and the EU would be a total Russian victory against NATO. A NATO defeat will bring down not only NATO itself, but also the EU and that, in turn, would force the US to (finally!) become a normal, civilized, country.
As for the EU, a NATO defeat would mean the end of one thousand years of imperialism.
I get it. For a civilization built upon the assumption of racial superiority (whether officially proclaimed or not) the notion that the only possible salvation could come from “inferior Asiatic barbarians” is shocking and can only be considered as an extreme form of doubleplusbadcrimethink. Such a thought is, quite literally, unthinkable for most.
Yet, as I mentioned above, what the House Negros understand or not is entirely irrelevant. Not only do they have no agency, they want none (Poland anybody?).
Conclusion:
Russia won’t lose this war, most of us understand that. But to those who don’t, I will offer one simple conclusion: a Russian defeat would be a disaster for Russia. And China. And the rest of the planet. But it will also be a true calamity for the oppressed people of the West. They, of all people, should be very careful what they wish for. And the next time they want to hallucinate and gloat about a “strategic Russian retreat/defeat” they should ask themselves a simple question: what might this mean for *me* and *my own* future? Do I really have a reason to rejoice?
Maybe they simply got used to being slaves and the idea of *real* freedom and diversity simply terrifies them?
Andrei
Yes as you allude to, dear Saker, the upside for the West is (or rather, my guess is):
China then attacks Taiwan, crocodile tears abound (I don’t mean to imply it would not be horrible) and the West (North America, Europe plus some of Asia) would be a lovely walled garden of aged workforce, smaller weaker mature economies–low growth to frequent recession and so monetary policy would eventually cause rampant inflation, downfall of the Euro. The Americans would be arranging the deck chairs, and they could scoop up some of the cutlery using borrowed time.
The lush and fruitful jungle outside the wall would be relatively vigorous and growing.fast as a real jungle does. So the East gets an economic garden of eden vs our lawn bowling green, if you follow one follows Borrell’s mighty musings.
It makes one wonder about how bad they think the alternative would actually be: I’d imagine the US sees an inflationary spiral, and default–but sooner. This is worth the gamble? The West and the US could have had a much better chance of sucess with a.new world currency and detente.
Without US imperial interference China and Taiwan would be joined; no need for China to attack.
It makes one wonder about how bad they think the alternative would actually be: I’d imagine the US sees an inflationary spiral, and default–but sooner. This is worth the gamble? The West and the US could have had a much better chance of sucess with a.new world currency and detente.
Yes for the 99% you are right but the 1% in charge did not agree.
A real triumph for democracy, when a tiny part of 15% of the world’s population(Zone A) would continue their merry path of destruction. This “thought experiment” at least replaces the lack of any brainpower or decency or hope of any future for humankind. The addled “brains” of the West ignore all possible hope for any of us.
Here in the “EU” with Ursula von der Lying(sic), gardener Josep Borrell in the jungle, Charles Michel et al the consensus (!!)has already folded into the US plan for removal of any pushback against US hegemony, gleefully adding to the illegal sanctions (so far 8 tranches) which push Russia’s economy ahead and reduce the whole EU to penury. We will soon be overrun by more Ukie “refugees” with their entitlement and hatred.
Luckily we are awaiting quite a different future. Russia’s recent talks with Iran, all the meetings of the Zone B leaders and the many potential joiners of the organizations for cooperation and positive moves for future growth show that the possibility of avoiding the views Andrei floated is not only there, but essential.
Centuries ago when a tribe/nation conquered another they eliminated all of those with authority and the remainder assimilated. The same needs to be incorporated now, so whoever wins will have to follow the same old tried and proven method, may sound cruel and unfair but it worked and prevented any proxies from trying to take over.
Multi cultural, multi ethnic and multi religious countries were quite common in the Muslim kingdoms of history.
I’m afraid I’ll have to disagree with you on this.
Great essay. Russia’s victory will initially mean the liberation of most of the Global South and Global East from American domination, an unalloyed good thing.
Russian victory will likely mean the eventual liberation of many European States from American domination as well, but it will take time to change from the current regimes committed to Globalism and Green Masochism. It won’t happen instantly but when it becomes clear that allegiance to America means expensive LNG and poverty and turning east to Russia means cheap oil and gas and a return to relative prosperity, European thinking will change.
What will Russian victory and the collapse of the American Globalist project mean to Americans? Andrew Anglin of “The Daily Stormer” optimistically argues that it will mean their liberation from the Woke Fascism under which we currently groan. I am not so optimistic. My fear is that the collapse of American Globohomo while it will liberate the rest of the World will just encourage the American Ruling Class to increase their oppression at home.
Exactly. Parasites that wants to rule globally, are used to people as pawns, will continue to exert their influence on others. It’s being done now. Who or what will change that? Certainly not our political establishment, for they are cogs in the wheel, that profit by doing what they are told. I don’t like the expression, a third world country, for it implies less than, but that’s where the US is heading. We have no practical industry, to make fabric, clothes, tools, electronics, everything. We, the people lose, with or without a Russian defeat.
What would a Russian defeat mean for the people of the West?
We have had a global hegemony situation before- it was called the British Empire. And we all know how that ended. The fight will go on,each country and its people fighting in their own way to the amount they are capable.
For the people of the West there will be little improvement in their lives. If anything it will get worse since the elites will feel they can get away with even more. What is planned is already given Klaus Schwab, so no mystery.
What will happen to the Hegemon is that it will fall of its own weight. The corruption and degeneracy will increase at a faster rate. It took 30 years to get from Yeltsin to now. This time round it will take only 10 years.
Every country has seen that it is possible to challenge the Hegemon. There will be a dozen Irans that will spring up.
The Hegemon would very much go for an Opium War 3 if Russia is defeated. This time round China knows what it is up against and knows how to deal with it. India will take a bit longer but it will eventually get there on the other side of the Hegemon.
As many have pointed out on the Saker blog andelsewhere, this is a spiritual fight. What happenson the military battlefield may be a set back but eventually it is the spirit that will win. Same goes for people of the West.
Slowly but surely here in America there are some voices in the alternative media that are beginning to state some of the exact points you make in this article. In my opinion only a Russian military victory can bring about any true positive political change in this country. Truth be told this nation as a whole is too fractured and divided to remain as one entity. The United States must be divided and partitioned for true peace and equanimity to be achieved among the people. For now the majority of Americans and Europeans are still living rather comfortable lives specially compared to the very precarious and dangerous situation that the citizens of the Donbass are enduring under the terror of the Zelensky regime. Russia has some unfinished business in Ukraine. A great and powerful purging and cleansing is about to take place. For those of us who are awakened to the truth, these are F4#king epic times that we are living in.
I think the time has come for the US to be divided into at least two separate countries. The states signed on to the Constitution with the understanding that each state’s rights were supreme, and the federal government only had a small role to play.
Once the initial bliss and celebrations are over, what will happen to them next?
Anybody want to take a guess? If so, please post your thoughts in the comments section below.
The Zone A commoners would be instructed whom to hate next by the exact same propaganda arm operating the Zone A MSM. Just as now. And even after all of the current “Axis Of Evil” are conquered, then new enemies will be identified, vilified, and targeted as Zone A and its inhabitants know nothing other than endless war.
Well said. The Zone A will start from 5 eyes, EU, Japan Korea, Taiwan.
Taiwan will fall first, then Korea, then Japan, then Eu, then perhaps the 5 eyes. One possibility is that the 5 eyes will go on as they are reliving their perceived glories while mired in poverty and ignorance.
Until the population realises the truth themsleves litlle can be done by people on the outside.
Korea, Taiwan, Japan will ultimately go where the customers are if the financial structure of the world changes a bit you’ll find them looking for alternatives.
Europeans have ideological problems they have gotten used to sucking the life blood of zone B for last few hundred years. They need reach a few notches down before their trouble making capacity is defanged.
This is off topic but Mike (iEarlGrey) and John Dougan made it to Donetsk to deliver the aid. Here he’s talking to Eva Bartlett:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Ec7LHp5Zg
The Kinburn Spit situation:
https://awfulavalanche.wordpress.com/
Recall that the Kinburn Spit (Pushkin’s fabled Lukomorye, filled with wondrous things from Russian mythology) provides a juicy target for not-so-wondrous Ukrainian diversionaries. The big question on everyone’s mind: Whether the Russian High Command will decide to pull their garrison out (because their lives are in too much danger way out here), or whether to keep them there, suffering slings and arrows, to defend this strategic spot on the Black Sea.
According to reporter Anton Antonov, the Ukrainians made an attempt yesterday, but were repelled.
This is what happened: A group of Ukrainian commandos of the 73rd Military Center for Special Operations, attempted their landing near the village of Pokrovskoye, on the northern side of the peninsula that leads to the Spit.
According to the Russian side, the Ukrainians came roaring up in 4 motorboats, backed by artillery covering fire coming from the towns of Kutsurub and Ivanovka in the Nikolaev mainland. Russian artillery was able to suppress the Ukrainian artillery and kill up to 20 Ukrainian commandos, also blowing up their motorboats.
The reporter also notes that, around the same time, the Russians received information of underground Ukrainian commandos camping in the Delta region where the Rivers Konka and Dniepr come together. The Russians were able, via reconnaissance flights, to obtain the precise coordinates of their base. After which a massive artillery strike was launched at the base. After the strike, Russian commandos scouted what was left of the base, and found human remains [ugh!]
That’s it for that story. One reminds, that the Ukrainians are nothing if not persistent. No doubt they will keep sending commandos in motorboats over and over. And at a certain point the Russian commanders are going to have to make a decision, whether to keep repelling them, or just give them what they want. Namely, the fabled Russian magical kingdom of Lukomorye.
They must have a real death wish,what the hell did a few soldiers hope to gain?
I believe this video shows the carnage of the Russian strike in the Delta area Ukro commando camp you mention. The images are +++ rated and can’t be unseen.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/L1WvNZfWjdA3/
Douglas MacGregor explains it very well:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UwWw1XTekvo
Honestly wish this wouldn’t take war, but seems beyond obvious that all other methods have tried and failed to change this truly demonic system in the West. You can easily witness how truly demonic it has become by as the author suggested take a look at Netflix, Amazon prime and hell even cable shows. Easy experiment on any given day at what’s trending on those platforms. They have become extremely graphic with violence and sex, sadistic and/or completely idiotic. Look at pop culture over here in general, highly disturbing. Have days where children are being taught by drag queens at school. Truly wtf. Do what you want in your own time, but stay the hell away from my child with that.
I have to state up front I don’t follow any organized religion, but have read my fair share of the Bible more than once and have read many other religious teachings(side note: one of the better books I’ve ever read was written by Ali Wassil named the wisdom of Christ). I don’t understand how people don’t see that we are currently witnessing the prophesied end times war or at least the start of it.
Boot stomping on our faces forever or something like that as Orwell mentioned will be the future if enough of us don’t understand or can even be bothered to look at the truth.
Disclaimer: also entertain the view I could just be insane. So take it all with a grain of salt.
Looks like the Mullahs of Iran had better idea of how much of a danger the media is if it is not controlled for public good.
The untrammelled freedom given in West has taken media to it’s logical conclusion and changed the Society itself.
I’m not sure if I agree with all that(fan of the Iranians and what they have gone through and persevered through) but fully see and respect that point of view. Actually made me think on this for a couple days and you are correct that our “culture/society” is mimicking the media, but also still believe in free speech b/c otherwise who/what dictates what’s right/wrong? Again agreed it’s gone haywire here.
Thanks for your input. Led to thinking on it for quite awhile. Appreciated.
“They, of all people, should be very careful what they wish for. And the next time they want to hallucinate and gloat about a “strategic Russian retreat/defeat” they should ask themselves a simple question: what might this mean for *me* and *my own* future?”
Well, isn’t that already taken care of? That is why marijuana and magic mushrooms are legalized and crack cocaine and meth and heroin are being supplied with the secret connivance of corrupt law enforcement to these people. The hallucinogenic realm is just so much more interesting than the boring rooski issues.
What would a NATO victory mean for me in the UK?
Difficult to see if there would be any difference to how I am treated now.
To understand, one would have to be a Western Nationalist, and essentially, that seems to translate as latent NAZI to most of the people here.
To illustrate; It seems that ‘Global South’ means non white people, with the exception of the Slavic nations, who seem to get an honorary pass as they are for the moment seen to be expending blood and treasure to fight for the rights of the ‘Global South’. I disagree with this analysis, as to me, VV Putin is a rational actor, who has fought for his nation for his whole life, and the SMO is clearly in the interests of Russian and Eastern Europe generally. Any benefit to the ‘Global South’ seems to be coincidental, that is, if the GS did not exist, Russia would still have to fight this conflict.
Twenty years ago, Western nationalists spoke of ZOG, the Zionist Occupation Government. Is that the same as the Anglo-Zionist? I don’t know. What I do know, is that rational humanist positions have been perverted to the point where they do the opposite of the underlying moral position. For example, an attempt to afford dignity and respect to homosexuals has resulted in a trend toward perversion and pedophilia. An attempt to accord dignity and opportunity to non Europeans has resulted in reverse racism and economically assisted reverse colonisation. This does not mean, I think, that the underlying morality is wrong, merely that clever people have twisted definitions so that liberty becomes license, to paraphrase Oliver Cromwell.
Nothing will change here is Russia loses. We will still be sliding into slavery and repression. We will still be like those laboratory rats who are too fat and cosseted to get up the life force to even breed successfully.
I wish for Russia’s success not because I think they are fighting for me, but because a Russian win will accelerate the process of impoverishment which is the only hope for my people, the combined West. The destruction of dollar hegemony, the inability to afford war and hordes of unproductive parasites, from the benefit junkies to the council diversity officers, all of the consequences of losing to Russia in Ukraine, are the necessary medicine we need here in the UK.
As to those of you in the Global South who think you are living in our shadow; We have an old saying here in the West, ‘Blowing out my candle won’t make yours burn any the brighter.’
I have my doubts about the Global South’s humanity being any different to the Combined West’s, but I wish you all well.
Thanks Andrei, for this wonderful place to learn, literally, how the other 85% think..
Steve G.
Very well observed and written. Just a few points to add towhat you have written.
“Any benefit to the ‘Global South’ seems to be coincidental, that is, if the GS did not exist, Russia would still have to fight this conflict.”
I think Putin also did not consider the Global South but as events unfolded it became clear that having the Global South on your side is advantageous politically andalso weakens the hegemon as a lot of the income/resources are being extracted from them by the Hegemon. This is what enables the West to have resources to make war and also to bribe its population with a reasonably comfortable life. Separating the Global South will weaken the Hegemon considerably. Remember, India and China are part of the Global South and they are half the worl’d population.
“As to those of you in the Global South who think you are living in our shadow; We have an old saying here in the West, ‘Blowing out my candle won’t make yours burn any the brighter.’”
The Hegemon’s position has always been “It is not enough that I am rich. In order for me tobe rich, you have to be poor”.
Thank you Jiri,
When the dollar falls, their ability to ‘print’ their way to wealth will evaporate.
@Steven Galvin
Your comment should be permanently posted somewhere on this site so that the international community that frequents the Saker can clearly understand the perspective of someone living in zone A who happens to represent what Putin likes to call the majority host population of a nation. It is after I listened to Putin’s speech regarding the necessity for any foreigner immigrating to Russia to respect and understand the cultural customs of the majority host population that I realized Putin was the real deal unlike the leaders in my country.
Stephen not Steven, I Americanized your name lol
Not a problem. Thank you.
If Russia loses it means all restraint on the so-called western “ruling elite” will vanish & the direction they have been pushing the world in since the Cold War ended in 1991 will advance at a rapid pace. In the UK it would mean the NHS would be totally sold off to the private sector in full, no public-private partnership, an insurance company takeover, taxes would increase but you would have no health service to show for it. Working hours would increase & wages would decrease. That is on the economic front, the majority of people would become impoverished to a degree they would not imagine at this moment. It is the existence of a potential alternative world order that keeps this in the balance, the ruling class in the west fears any alternative, real or imagined, it is not that Russia is some kind of system alternative to the west by intention, but its existence serves to influence the west into a certain self-restraint. That was more obvious during the Cold War, since Putin, some of that has returned, most obvious as a consequence of the Syria intervention. If Russia loses, Russia will be destroyed, & the people’s of the west will be subject to a form of slavery they can not imagine now.
Cecil Rhodes in his 1877 will (aka: My Confessions of Faith) where the arch racist said:
“Why should we not form a secret society with but one object the furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole uncivilised world under British rule for the recovery of the United States for the making the Anglo-Saxon race but one Empire”.
Rhodes’ writings are well known to all students of Empire.
You see, the Empire has a problem, and goal – it is not quite there yet. King Charles III might be the King who finally ‘civilizes’ the world.
Curiously right now the Palace Papers have hit Australian media :
The Queen’s Coup
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/11/14/the-queens-coup/
and the direct involvement of then Prince Charles in the sacking of PM’s elected government.
Strangely that report makes no mention of Whitlam’s intention to nationalize strategic resources. The Empire views these as its property, just like Russia’s hydrocarbons etc.
Rhodes dream has come largely true.They are called the 5 eyes. After their defeat they will retreat into themselves along with as many vassals they can muster.
The next phase of the battle will be to help free the vassals from their bondage.
Next will be the freeing of the ordinary people of the 5 eyes who get little to no benefit from their countries being rich.
Remember- The Ideology of the British Empire and that of the Nazis are exactly the same. Only difference is that the British Empire was a bit more clever and disingeneous in going about. That is, the difference is in the application and not on fundamental principles.
The NAZI Dritte Reich, means Third Empire.
This Third Empire, Third Rome ideology also gripped the USSR during the Cold War Ogarkov Plan.
Empire is the antithesis of Nation State, the General Welfare.
Churchill supported the Thid Reich, as did the Monarchy, utill it got contrary :
CH4 has a documentary :
‘Edward VIII’s treachery is mind-boggling’: Viewers of Britain’s Traitor King question ‘why Duke of Windsor wasn’t executed for treason’ after he told Nazis to keep bombing England during WWII
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10659369/Viewers-new-Channel-4-documentary-Edward-VIIIs-treachery-mind-boggling.html
Third Rome ideology also gripped the USSR during the Cold War Ogarkov Plan.
What in the world are you talking about here????
The Third Rome concept is purely religious, while the USSR was an militantly atheistic state.
As for Marshal Ogarkov, he wrote a lot of very smart and interesting things, but I don’t recall him theologizing :-)
I know it was/is religious – the USSR/KGB was very close to religion – the so-called West could not fathom that. Today the so-called West still does not grasp Russia.
This is a huge subject – with massive repercussions. The Third Rome is a family secret.
Russia China and Iran lose. the world empire is established. its population will be further enslaved. But let’s not forget optimism. that empire will not be eternal. sooner or later it will self-destruct. a new feudalism will be established with multiple states.
Either that or we blow up the planet in a senseless nuclear war…
A few scenarios,
A Russian defeat will lead to the eventual take over of the world by the AngloZionist empire. Surprisingly, Iran will offer much stiffer resistance than expected and will have to be dealt with in harsher terms. Once in place, the control of the planet will be total. The next order of business would be population reduction. As coined by Eustace Mullins, some fifty years ago, “death by medicine” would be the preferred option. After the cull, the separation of the “slave” population would be stark: Food cultivators, resource extractors, designers, manufacturers, and servants. Some will be feted and others abused. In time they will learn to hate each other, as planned. It may take 200 to 300 years to form an embryonic resistance. It may take 500 years to see victory and change. This latter process may be accelerated as a result of the decadence, debauchery and in-breeding of the AngloZionist elite. Internecine war/competition may also add an unexpected twist and dimension to the saga. Would be lords, princes, and kings may seek to secure their natural place among lesser mortals.
A Russian victory would only postpone the next war. The AngloZionist may seek to revive the carcass of the United States or seek a new host for their 2000 years of evil game plan
It won’t take another 500 years. They have already had their 500 years and this is where they are at now.
Even if Russia is defeated militarily the Empire will fall of its own accord since it that much rotten to the core.
What exactly was stopping them from Iran to task all these years? . Surely Russia was not going to intervene. Russia, India etc were the ones who voted to refer Iran to the UN Security council and the subsequent sanctions.
It’s good Russia is allaying with Iran now. However It wasn’t Russia which stopped the West from attacking Iran over the last three decades.
In a public meet up a child asked Khamenei why the West fears Iran his reply was because we fear God.
Thanks for this very excellent article.
Once the initial bliss and celebrations are over, what will happen to them next?
After the initial celebrations are over, the victor (Anglo-Zionists) will immediately push the UN, WHO … for a universal injections of some kind of drug – developed by the Bill Gates company – that functions as a permanent personal identification tool in combination with personal mobile phones. It is the first step required for total control and zombification of the globe based on the future artificial intelligence/monitoring/eugenics agendas of the 0.01 percent elites over the rest.
Russia stopping now with Crimea and the four annexed regions and suing for peace qualifies is a defeat for Russia and Zone B, IMO.
Russia needs to keep this war going on as long as possible. Ukraine is an important but minor theatre in this hybrid war. In 9-months we have already seen the Emperor of Lies in his dirty, hole-ridden undergarments – supporting Nazis, blowing up pipelines, laundering money through Ukraine via cryptocurrencies, stealing sovereign reserves, threatening Zone B countries, etc. It is US that has trapped itself in a quagmire, not Russia.
Let the Neo-cons keep thinking they are winning and Russia is on the ropes. Ali would have loved this iteration of rope-a-dope.
Time and history are on the side of Zone B. In Gandhi’s words, no tyranny lasts for ever. It is time.
Very grateful for the reflective exercise, spot on.
Scoff if you will. But I think I bought into some messianic counter culture in Zone A, more an attempt at some kind of moral alignment trying to bear witness to injustice , to truth, believing in a good fight, in solidarity always with zone B. After all there was la commune in Paris, there was the Irish socialist rebellions. The Catholic workers. Mary Kelly. The black Panthers, Angela Davis, indeed Malcolm X.The extraordinary migrant intellectual workers movement in the States in the 30s. And yes dear Prince Kropotkin.
I would always feel though exactly how Nora described in her recent article here on Kherson, quoting the society of the spectacle, that real social interaction had been replaced by representation. A feeling of trying to get full from an illusion of food instead of the food itself. Everything was trickery no matter how momentarily beautiful or profound, and ultimately everything would stay the same – worsen and continue to worsen
One day I sat there and we were all on the same side sharing the same vision. I thought that our ethics were sound, that ‘ we’ indeed were fighting the good fight. I had noticed it before, the disappearance of collective memory and responsibility, the cooption of grassroots movements. Maybe just something as simple as a person wearing a Palestinian scarf, not realizing it for what it is, and insisting that it’s merely a fashion statement.
Of course during ‘COVID’ years, the process sped up and in one second the person next to you becomes unrecognizable and suddenly one realizes that you do not share the same values. This certainly reinforced the feeling of illusion. Like trying to sit on an imaginary chair and violently hitting the ground instead. Even my campanions were not what they seemed, and become transparent waifs without substance. Screeching reinforcers of the hegemony, their sworn enemy but moments before.
In Zone A we are not free. Our resistance itself has been made a mockery. A puppet show, someone else manipulating the strings.
I can’t tell you the relief I experience in knowing that Russia is fighting for us., For us, for humanity It feels so weak and selfish to rely so heavily on Zone B for liberation. So cruel that I can not give more to Russia for her sacrifice.
It’s not that I feel we need to embrace Russia’s values, just respect them.It is more the promise of having the freedom to genuinely return to our own values, the best part of who we are, what we could be if we in Zone A were truly able to influence and determine our collective fate for mutual benefit. If we were not perpetually divided and conquered and divided again.
It is also a massive relief to let go of a feeling of Western saviourism it’s racism and sense of superiority. The conceit. It’s falsehood and treachery.
I believe a catastrophic Russian defeat would mean a pogrom within a few years, at least within the US, and possibly Europe, like what happened with the Native Americans, to conserve scarce resources, but rationalized some other way and carefully downplayed or hidden, for the “Greater Good” of the ruling elites. The people who fancy themselves on the right side of the latter “intelligent and humanitarian” woke elites would become their slaves, subjected to the “circular firing squad” now and then to free up more resources for the “deserving.”
Oh gosh, but maybe that’s just me. There’d be forced medication–you know, basically stuff the Nazis did, but nobody had better say so. The living would not envy the dead so much as quickly join them. Everyone else would be happily licking boots.
I’ve forgotten exactly what the circumstances were a few years ago, with people in the US bravely saying how they were going to do something or other about some political issue or other in the US, and this went on for a while with the problem gradually getting worse, and then Putin came along and with one word, solved it for them. Maybe tonight when I’m asleep I’ll remember exactly what it was.
If this scenario ever happens ,the hegemon and it’s lackeys would first turn on their domestic population who’s still resisting , accuse them of either treason by virtue of supporting Russia’s cause or insurrection because they refuse to heed the regime – Either way , the domestic scene will be sanitised first before the next international opponents are conquered
There are two relevant examples found in literature that might be fun to discuss here.
The first is from Isaac Asimov’s Foundation trilogy, where the initial protagonist, a “psychohistorian”, discovers that the galactic empire is crumbling and that this will lead to 10.000 years of barbarism and darkness, but that this chaotic interregnum can be reduced to 1.000 years with the help or guidance of a “foundation” that can accelerate the empirical downfall and guide the ensuing transformational process in the right direction.
One can see all sorts of complications and dangers in the respective scenarios, but in principle, overlaying todays world, the AZ empire will collapse one way or the other, and if the Zone B/”Foundation” forces are not there to help, the interregnum will be much longer, more destructive and more drawn out to the detriment of humanity as a whole.
The second example is from 1984 where, in the ending, the future of mankind is envisioned as a face being stomped upon by a boot forever. Here the issue is whether the species itself in its current individual form/container will endure or whether the (AZ)parasite will kill the host.
Considering the physical and mental state of most of the population of Zone A (obesity, chronic illness, dependencies, cognitive and spiritual decline, etc) there must be a diminishing return for the rulers, regardless of any transhumanist advances, enforced injections or non-stop brainwashing. The container just wont be able to hold the load.
So, I believe any Zone A victory would inevitably be followed by further decline and collapse, eventually followed by (very) long term rekindling of something or the other. Let’s hope, for our offspring’s sake, that they’ll never have to endure this trajectory.
Exactly.
I by and large agree with Andrei’s scenario, except certain crucial details which I think he got wrong.
The most important points:
1) The Zone A elites are incompetent, exceptionalist, and idiots. The perfect example of this is the sanctions, which they thought would quickly bring Russia down but instead they quickly brought the EU down, and will rather more slowly bring the US down, all the while rapidly making Russia ever stronger and stronger.
2) The Hegemony is intrinsically profoundly unsustainable. It is like a swarm of giand locusts that eat vegetatio 10 times faster than it can grow, while multiplying at an exponential rate – i.e. the Hegemony can only exist as a parasite, and its apetite is limitless and unlimitable, therefore ultimately the parasite will kill the host (hence itself die). Every time the Hegemony devours one country, extracts all nutrients from it, and spits it out as a toxic wasteland, it necessarily relies on having more new countries to devour. That is precisely why it needs Russia so badly. But because the Hegemon is so inefficient (see for example the voracious greed on which the MIC runs, as the result of which all US weapons are horrendously expensive toys that are absolutely useless in real battle), the need for resources is vastly disproportionate to the benefits the Hegemon is able to extract from it and make real use of. Therefore the rate of consumption of ever more countries can only accelerate, as the greed of the Hegemon also accelerates.
3) All of the elites, their puppet political leaders and their executors have become so profoundly rotten and degenerate in every respect that whatever they touch immediately turns to failure. It is a truism that because of this fact it is virtually impossible for Russia to lose this war – but on Andrei’s instructions we have to ignore that fact in this hypothetical scenario. Nevertheless the result is unavoidable: as Andrei points out, after the loss, the lot of the ordinary people in Zone A can only fall precipitously – the owners must extract ever more and more from the people (slaves effectively, and later in fact), the people become ever less able to provide what the extractors rely on, and the parasite eventually withers and dies.
The death of the parasite, unfortunately, is not a good outcome for the people, however, because it results from the death (by and large) of the people. Those few who survive will be in the most brutal, barbaric and universally hostile environment by the time the last of the elites is dead, so they won’t be able to build a better life for themselves: conditioned and programmed by the limitless barbarity of their (now expired) owners, they themselves will know no better. The moment one human being catches a glimpse of another human being, immediately they will cry out “you monster!”, grab whatever weapon they can, and try to kill the other.
Thus, in my view, out of the death of a depraved world only depravity can exist as residue, and the conditions for the arising of good will be massively repressed. It would therefore take a very long time of cycles of rise and collapse of new orders, all immersed in barbarity and immense suffering, for a new civilisation eventually to emerge.
Conclusion: with the hypothesised destruction of Russia, and then China, Iran, and everything else the only possible outcome is a massively perpetuating cycle of cataclysims, from which it will take enormous time and suffering to ever recover (if ever).
After NATO’s industrial NordStream terrorism, Turkey inked deals with Russia to be the mother of all gas pipline hub. Terrorism struck quite fast in Istanbul :
“I emphasize once again that we do not accept, and reject the condolences of the U.S. Embassy,” Soylu said, according to Turkish state media publication Anadolu Agency.
The interior minister said the U.S. statement of condolence was like “a killer being first to show up at a crime scene.”
https://thehill.com/policy/international/3734308-turkey-alleges-us-complicity-in-deadly-istanbul-bombing-rejects-condolence-statement/
Looks like there is a global recognition – Empire terrorism.
What would happen with Europe – Meyssan posted the warning already in May – Europe is flooded with weapons and Ukrainian ideologues. The Deutsche Bahn cable sabotage is only a warning.
France and Norway are on alert for ocean cable sabotage.
“With Zone B gone, what hope for a better future, if any, could the slaves of the AngloZionist Hegemony keep in their hearts if our entire planet turns into Zone A?”
1. A minor one, but I am expecting the winner of any colonisation attempt in Africa to be “Africa wins again”. So there will likely always be one part of the world where globohomo’s reach is limited.
2. A spectacular backfire on global depopulation plans, probably by the targeting of the populations that build & maintain what passes for Western civilisation these days. Sorry Soros & co, but all those imported Somalis won’t be able to keep your indoor plumbing working.
3. The knowledge that globohomo *cannot* go on forever, and that which cannot go on forever will not. When the maths departments are thoroughly “decolonised”, when what little that still works no longer does, the whole system will fall apart. From the remains of the Roman Empire we got a a Christian Europe that would eventually stretch from Lisbon to Vladivostok, and if it took the Spanish 700 years to reconquer their homeland… hey, they did it in the end.
Regardness of how long the fighting in the Ukraine goes on, I expect all of the above to happen to some greater or lesser extent regardless. If nothing else, we cannot and should not expect the Russians to solve all our problems for us.
This was a very clear and methodical exercise for anyone who has not thought through the situation already. Well done.
Tangentially, I will expand on your “most people in Zone A” to mention large numbers (even if relatively minor percentages) of people around Europe and the US who are strongly against the WEF buggy business and war. I have the advantage of much travel and can tell you that loads of people in Greece, Italy, Germany, etc (and the US) are not fooled. Many are just confused, and lacking real spiritual focus, they are somewhat lost.
Going further on your main theme, I will repeat my opinion on outcome, even though I was bludgeoned by a computer modeler and another fearful soul last time I did so:
Most agree that the situation is existential for Russia. A little reflection should also make it clear that the situation is similarly existential for the bad guys behind the scenes who are running the global control mission central. If (when) truth prevails, they will be cooked, in the most innocuous case, after tribunals.
Like it or not, both sides have huge nuclear arsenals. Russia has made clear that it will not go down without defending itself with all means at hand, including these many nukes. The other side is not so explicit (aside from some nuclear subs surfacing), but who here thinks that they will just say, “Oh shucks, we lost”. Seriously?
How does either NATO/west or Russia win without all avenues of military force expended? Get real. Sure nuclear war is a horrendous and offensive thought, but since when did the Ostrich approach work well for analysis and planning?
As an example of how inane this ostrich approach can be, it may be worth spending some time reading US military strategy sites. Consider the picture of current reality in your head, and then hear theirs:
They are quite convinced of a few things. First, Russia has already lost the current struggle so all strategic thinking and efforts should be directed at China. Let that sink in for a moment. Now recognize the foolishness of wishful thinking.
They also talk about how big countries will not move to nuclear exchanges because it is not in their interest. Better to move on and swallow the loss, and that is what they expect from Russia. How many times has Putin explicitly stated otherwise?
I am perfectly ready for Divine Intervention and a peaceful world with minimal insanity to get there. But short of that, it seems quite obvious that there will be no winner without a major nuclear exchange occurring first. Neither side shows any avenue for surrender, nor do they have any future if they surrender.
Quoting Ayn Rand (who I do not like or admire, aside from a few good quotes):
“You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.”
My comment is not directly about your article.
I do hope Russia can win, which to me means ending the ability of the US to wage war.
Were I to relearn Russian I’d be able to return to my homeland.
That tis my comment.
I was born in Russia, in Moscow, then USSR, which Includes what has now become Hato.
Too bad.
My comment is simple.
I wish the country I am a citizen of, US of Arrogance, will stop antagonizing the whole world.
To have my country I live in at war with my country of birth is like being split in half and I am tired of having to be divided within myself, I wish this shit will stop.
Also,most or at least many Americans support Russia and Putin, especially non whites, but only say so to me quietly….imagine that.
@Grasshopper
Please try not to feel like you are being split in half, I know what you must be going through but look at me I am an American citizen just like you and although I have no Russian lineage I want Russia to kick American ass on the battlefield and my conscience is as clear as can be because Russia is not the aggressor in this conflict. As proud as I am of my people, I despise my government and their foreign legion of criminals. Russia has all the right to purge, cleanse and rid the world of this cabal that has been causing havoc for centuries. What you say is true that the vast majority of Americans do not harbor any hatred for Russia and as a matter of fact 84 percent of Americans cannot even find Ukraine on a map. They are completely clueless. The only slight thing that I will differ with you is that in my experience the cities in America that strongly support Ukraine and show the most anti-Russia rhetoric is in the ultra liberal Democratic run cities mostly inhabited by minorities such as LA, NYC, Philadelphia etc. That is where you will see the most Ukrainian flags. Where I live there is not a single Ukrainian flag as we would consider putting a flag of a foreign nation a form of blasphemy.
Make America Good Again is the way, no more bloc-building. No radical unilateral breaks.
And there is plenty of good to be done! SCO, ASEAN, BRICS+, EAEU.
Join the USA to Siberia again with the Bering Strait Tunnel!
Has this site been hacked? Nobody in their right mind would suggest the possibility of a Russian defeat. Whoever mentioned this should wash their mouth out and then confess how wrong they were to their God.
They should not entertain these weak and foolish thoughts. Shame on you.
Are you truly THAT stupid or did you not even bother reading what I wrote????
Why would I read it? If a mother discovers that her daughter did a spread in a porn magazine, the mother would have no need to look at it. The title of your essay is enough for me to reject it.
Well, IF you had read it, you would realize how stupid your comment is.
Your comment above was intercepted by the mods, but I decided to let it post to show everybody else who incredibly stupid folks like you are and how ugly your mind really is.
Thanks for making my case better than I ever would :-)
Andrei
Thank you so much for allowing me to debate and argue with you publicly, on your forum. I really do appreciate that. (By the way, I never take ad hominem remarks personally so please do not think I feel insulted by those.)
All of that being said, I stand by my original impression. I believe no one should mention or entertain the idea of a ‘Russian defeat,’ as you have in the title of your essay. Those words serve no useful purpose, and can only demoralize people. Those words suggest the possibility of an unthinkable result. These words should never come from a man of your stature. Never.
Re: “the only hope for the House Negros still remains the Field Negro.”
I disagree. The people of Zone A want the 90’s back, with the US kicking butt and Russia controlled by “our guys”, not some bright future where all the many peoples in the world are sovereign and free from external control. I.e. they don’t want a slave uprising, they want master to get more slaves and give them a few more scraps from the table.
So Zone A not only has to win, it has to win big and end up able to extract more wealth from Zone B with some of that wealth “trickling down” to us office plankton. Any other outcome will create anger and resentment in Zone A.
E.g. Exxon needs to gain control over Russia’s oil fields and pay out some dividends to the 401(k) masses so we can avoid eating dog food in retirement.
That’s why the demands from Zone A keep ratcheting up. They’ve put in a lot of money to stall Russia so far with nothing but an economically devastated rump Ukraine to show for it. There need to be NATO tanks in Moscow or a pro-Western regime change for this investment to have been worth it.
I heard an interesting phrase I had not heard until a few days ago, and just looked it up, and found this clip, of a movie I had never seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oijEsqT2QKQ
Jurassic Park 3D Movie CLIP – Life Finds a Way (1993) – Steven Spielberg Movie HD
The phrase is “life finds a way”, which fits with the movie, I suppose, but more intersting is where I first heard that phrase: it was as part of the discussion on a podcast from microbe.tv and referred to how viruses, or like that, inevitably evolve. I’ve long thought that life itself, and consciousness, is a natural and inevitable part of existence, even if it takes billions of years. That’s part of modern bioolgy and technology thinking, but that goes along with the ancient Chinese book of changes, I Ching, where existence is characterized as never becoming static, but is always evolving. This principle is also a major part of current physics, the uncertainty principle, and virtual particles.
This principle also counters the ideas of empire, hegemony, and ‘the end of history’. The longer and harder one tries to stop change (variations over time), the more resistance to static existence and more likely something new will break out — life finds a way. This counters even entropy, which can exist within a closed system for a time, but no system can be closed — even in math see Gödel’s incompleteness theorems.
There can be no ‘end of history’ nor, from history records, a ‘thousand year reich’ (which lasted only a few decades at best), nor complete tyrannical control. What we see here is not some merely accidental rise of Eurasia and collapse of the latest empire, but a demonstration of the fundamental principle of ‘life finds a way’. As Dr. Richard wolff has often said, capitalism is like everything else: it is born, grows, gets old, and dies, and he is saying that it is the time that capitalism, and it’s final stage of empire, has gotten old and is dying. It was though a few years ago that Russia — the USSR — was over, but now it is rising up again, as is China and ‘zone B’, and there is no stopping that rise, even if it might be possibly delayed for a short while, or reconfigured. The king cannot order the tide to recede. Life finds a way.
Great analysis Saker. In regards to your question I believe it is already projected from the various western so called elite organizations. These are the broad strokes that I see:
A march towards international tyranny will begin in earnest with the goal of a one world kleptocracy with the intent to depopulate the earth.
1. The U.S. will issue a digital currency as a 1 to 1 replacement the dollar in order to “pay” off the world debt. This would mean a debasement of the currency for the 99.6% while keeping the rulers insulated from losing too much.
2. The economic decline will become unbearable for humanity.
3. The true “Build Back Better” plan of your will own nothing, eat bugs, and like it will be implemented.
4. A world economic system will be implemented with the producers such as broken China, and broken Russia will produce all goods, while the broken west will produce nothing. Agricultural products will become scarce creating mass starvation and pestilence will be widespread and devastating for the 99.6%.
5. Depopulation will occur due to starvation and bio warfare of the populous.
6. Civil wars and revolutions will occur at an alarming pace and the people will call for a strong leader.
A strong leader will arrive and I’ll leave it at that.
Haven’t we had a taste when USSR collapsed in the 90’s? What happened then, did our real leaders go mad in the feeding frenzy and take their eyes off the ball? They had it all and the fact of their possession drove the Russian slaves deep into knowledge of error. When they felt strong enough to take on the heggie they launched an SMO. We ask for more proof of their conviction?
Saw a piece where the development of APCs of the US was followed. They went from invasion devices to occupation vehicles. At this rate they will be driving vehicles the size of apartment buildings. Still the locals will figure out how to blow them up.
I often ask what the major accomplishment was that we can logically turn to for confidence in their continued leadership? Autism, fertility, opioids, obesity, literacy IQ cancer rates? Some sports victory? All our major victories are highlighted in fantasy tv shows. They are figments of our imagination.
If they win, they will continue to cull the herd until their inbreeding leads to an inevitable reckoning with reality. The ultimate reset where only the AI has enough wits about it to make any decision. Till then I got a lot of work to do.
I AGREE 100 %, we westerners in Zone A are completely FUCKED if Russia loses this war.
I was born in canada, my Dad was 1/4 polish, 1/4 german, 1/4 Ukrainian and 1/4 Russian.
Sadly we were not taught any of those native languages otherwise i might have moved to Russia already.
I was taught french until gr 8 but have no affinity with France or Quebecois in canada and no desrire to move there.
All i know is, since i was born 1970, Canada has turned into A SHITHOLE COUNTRY, which was started by pierre Turd-oh IN 1968 who started mass immigration and made Canadas debt go from 80 million to 250 BILLION !
Its being finished by his CUCKhold castro son Just INflation Turd-oh who has doubled down on mass immigration and brought the debt up to 1.3 TRILLION!
We will be bankrupt im sure before hes done !.
Ive already asked my construction union to look into getting EU work visas to help re-build the old ukraine/Russian cities that are being destroyed. Who knows if it will happen.
Andrei if you have any pull or contacts to accomplish this, forward them to IBEW local 529
Sorry if this gets doubled posted, i cant tell if it worked first time?
I AGREE 100 %, we westerners in Zone A are completely FUCKED if Russia loses this war.
I was born in canada, my Dad was 1/4 polish, 1/4 german, 1/4 Ukrainian and 1/4 Russian.
Sadly we were not taught any of those native languages otherwise i might have moved to Russia already.
I was taught french until gr 8 but have no affinity with France or Quebecois in canada and no desrire to move there.
All i know is, since i was born 1970, Canada has turned into A SHITHOLE COUNTRY, which was started by pierre Turd-oh IN 1968 who started mass immigration and made Canadas debt go from 80 million to 250 BILLION !
Its being finished by his CUCKhold castro son Just INflation Turd-oh who has doubled down on mass immigration and brought the debt up to 1.3 TRILLION!
We will be bankrupt im sure before hes done !.
Ive already asked my construction union to look into getting EU work visas to help re-build the old ukraine/Russian cities that are being destroyed. Who knows if it will happen.
Andrei if you have any pull or contacts to accomplish this, forward them to IBEW local 529
Good morning.
Thanks for the article. I have to say that I was a bit resisting its beginning with a long “let’s imagine if Russia loses…”
So, yes, i fully agree with your conclusion that sums it up concisely.
My take on it, is that there are 2 main “things” at play here ( in this article): “a demonstration by the absurd” with the conclusion: Russia must and will win this war. Russia is winning this war. That is the first thing. This could be phrased also with “Truth is and will prevail”. No matter the illusion bubble (the empire of lies, as any empire, is bound to collapse).
The other thing, I think, is the frustration feeling. I hear you when you say “what the House Negros understand or not is entirely irrelevant. Not only do they have no agency, they want none.”
Yet, whichever path and time it takes, emancipation from mental slavery is happening. Not even just in “zone B”. The great awakening is happening. Revelation. Yes apocalyptic times.
That frustration I feel it. I sense also that if I focus on doing “my home work” (going through the pains, facing my own lies or convenient stance, feeling those difficult emotions without getting stuck in identification, feeling that shame, covered with denial. AND seeing the beauty, being in it, in harmony. Being kind.), then I am at peace.
Back on track, I agree with your “US political system is neither viable nor reformable”.
As it was said in “Fahrenheit 911”: “war is a continuum”. The U.S is based on war as well as corruption.
The best I can do is stand my ground in dignity… and acknowledge humbly that I don’t live continuously up to that standard. It is not even a standard, but our nature given birth right. Our inner/outer beauty. Being a creature, part of Creation. Yet, I forget and behave under the dictates of domestication.
I don’t condemn domestication. It is part of being civilized.
In fact, “domestication “ is an extension of “dom”.
So, I wish myself and whomever chooses to, to be at home, caring for it, in our heart.
Open house with an altar.
By the fact this war currently being fought in the Ukraine is even taking place, to me at least means we all have already lost.
who is “we”?
I would argue that the fact that NATO had to replace the obliterated Ukronazi military is a sign that we (the “we” which would include me) have already won :-P
By “We” I mean us all that make up humanity, and that I believe includes you. I say “we” lost by the simple fact that “we” had to undertake a war to solve the issue before us. That a Ukronazi regime came about that needed to be eliminated by lethal force with much “collateral damage” is a failure for humanity. I’d say that having to subdue such a group is not so much a “win”, but rather doing a “job” that needed to be done. I note the Mahatma Ghandi himself wrote to use violence if a problem cannot be resovled in any other way, but it would be best for “all” if mankind did not have to exersise such means. By the mere fact these events happen is what I call a loss for humanity. Regarding the Ukraine conflict, “we” all know which party is not willing to seriously negociate regarding this war, and hence the continuance of this failure for us all.
Personally, I think it’s quite clear what would happen if Russia lost the war. There would be a concerted effort to break up Russia into smaller, poorer and easier to control parts, and to steal everything not bolted down in Russia , to try to mold her into a colony of the West. That might initially have some economic benefits for the people of the West, but ultimately, it wouldn’t do be good for the majority.
Our rulers are already totally out of control, a major “victory” like that would make them even more intolerable, arrogant and tyrannical.
I’m convinced it won’t happen.
The shocking thing is there are humans who actually want it to happen,it would mean millions dead,these are the out of control creatures we are dealing with,thats why Russia must win in Ukraine and be seen to win and win big,as others have said this is about more than Ukraine its about taking down the American Global Reich.
“Once the initial bliss and celebrations are over, what will happen to them next?”
It will be Mordor on Steroids
Excellent analysis, it all makes perfectly good sense except for one fact, the united states is not going to let Russia win, the u.s. will do whatever wickedly evil thing necessary for the ends to justify the means.
What, the people who snuck out of Afghanistan, leaving their allies to fend for themselves? I obviously disagree. I think they will find some way to declare victory and then change the subject.
You may be surprised at the large number of people in the West, especially the US, are looking forward to Russia taking out our corrupt governments.
Knowing that we are being put on lists, most people go gray, and don’t put Russian flags on our social media profiles.
This is true. It really reminds me of the situation the Japanese faced during WWII. They had been a modernizing society with high humanistic ideals until they got taken over by a bunch of arrogant militaristic yahoos, drunken with pride after defeating Russia. They brutalized dissidents. The survivors were the ones who didn’t speak up. My father came in with the occupation. In his time there, he encountered only one person who didn’t seem happy to see him. This is why Japan is still so loyal to America.
Yes, Malcolm saw straight into the soulless ghost: the only way forward is for the people of the world (the later el-Hajj Malik al-Shabazz after Mecca, an extension of the earlier Black liberation minister of NoI) to decouple from the rabid Supremacist West. Not through liberal incrementalism, but by any means necessary. That could be the ballot, but that could be the bullet. In the future where resistance was futile, that may not be possible even with bullets. Which is why missiles, artillery, bombers, satellites, air defense, troops, ships, tanks, communication systems are the current hope. Without these, we are left with the beauty of slave songs, the songs of the oppressed. Still more soul, more life, but without the hope of self-agency and self-determination. There will be enlightenment for individuals, creativity will flourish amongst the people, but there will be no ‘age of Enlighenment”, no bringing reason to bear upon our world. Just the soulless Supremacy of wealth, power and the empty arrogance based upon these. The West has been defeated spiritually since the barbarity of the Conquest of the world and its peoples. It is desperate to claim a supremacy based upon 400 year old glimpses of infinite reason that it soon buried under the control of its stolen wealth.
Hi Peon, I hear you and agree. Yet, the “age of enlightenment “, the golden age, will come at its time.
Meanwhile we are in the age of conflicts (kali yuga) and need to go through it. It is a dark age coming to its end, and that implies getting worse before it gets better. We are in a descent process, decadence, at a global level, where the “evil ball” has great momentum. Essence and substance seem split, like Spirit from Nature. Our partial disconnect is the dis-ease. Some would like to make us believe that to be connected is to be online, more and more in virtual realities. That reminds me the line: “ O lonely people where do they all come from”.
There is a “conformed mass”, but there are also plenty of people who stand for truth, yes individually, but collectively too, even it is less obvious.
What I heard is that, in our age, individuals can achieve and evolve a lot, quickly, even if we are globally unable to change the course of our current humanity. Humanity has to go through the consumption mode, and like the phœnix to be reborn from its ashes. Consume our lies, burn them all and see the light that we are.
Also, I believe that we are all connected and that, as one plays his/her part, everything plays in accord, regardless of the apparent discord.
Anyway, I just listened to the judgment of Socrates in 399 BC, where/when Athen had just lost against Sparta.
He was charged of different things, like “corrupting the youth” (intellectually). As if he was guilty to have put the priority on discovering the soul, rather than putting the priority on protecting the State, as patriots.
He was definitely condemned for questioning the pretense, the façade, the reputation, the falseness of “respectable society”. His last speech is worth reading.
My point, I guess, is that, if we commit to truth, then apparent contradictions dissolve.
We can be at peace while defending our country.
Poutine is a great example at that, I think. A man of justice in a place of power is remarkable.
Errors will still happen, like “fausses notes”, quacks, but harmony will prevail.
We all bring our piece.
The ‘age of Enlightenment’ is a European fantasy that recognized the infinite scope of reason and science, but lost sight of it because of hubris, domination, greed, and arrogance. The global South, Eurasia and all ‘dark’ elements of human life in the Northern West- the slaves of Hegel’s master/slave narrative of self-consciousness – are the ones who know humanity and producing. They are the creators of real value, the ‘masters’ are really just master-batory in creating their own leisure class values as they dominate the rest. The white workers of the Western world did not throw off their chains. That will come from outside. All that they have to offer is keep open minded, keep from blowing up the world, and embrace their liberation from the dull-drums of their honky-tonk. A new world is coming – it’s already here in spirit – let’s help it along. Peace with justice.
I understand how being immersed in ones own world gives one a limited view of actual situation around the world.
Agriculture and industry and now a days energy are the back bone of any society.
Those living in Zone A and not connected with either of the first two things listed don’t get an opportunity to understand what’s happening in these sectors in Zone B.
One can keep talking about the finance world and it’s hold on the world the reality is if people get food and things then they are difficult to control. No matter what your bankers do or military does ultimately if you do not command on these two things your hold on others will start slipping away slowly.
There is a reason Europe was a civilisational back water till the industrial revolution too place. Industrial capability allowed europe to generate sulprus and the industry is tied to usage of extracted energy. Extraction of energy and occupation of the zone B was made possible by an accident ie of unprecedented amount of gold and silver in the Americas.
Anyway to cut a story short the wheel has come a full circle. People not in industry do not realise how much zone B was in the dark pits just 50-70 years back and how much it has changed now. Most of what humans need for contemporary human life is being manufactured in zone B and manufactured well. I have seen many industries collapse in US despite the intense nationalism and contempt for Asian manufactured brands or products.
I have been fortunate have to a basic understanding of several high tech industries and have friends relatives who are in very high decision making roles in Multi nationals across countries .
I have heard of multiple personal stories of top rung executives from Zone A whose companies have subsidaries , vendors in Zone B for years and been visiting and interacting with the people there for decades are now scared, frustrated and amazed at the level of success they see that these people and companies have made in the last 10 years.
More than one incident of visiting CEOs of MNCs asking to have CEOs of their vendors show up at their hotel for meetings only to be gently told by their handlers that the vendor CEO is who is founder owner of his own company has a networth many times bigger than his own or even his companies networth so it’s better to meet at a netural place or visit them at their own office.
Of course there are no companies like Black Rock in Zone B don’t know what if any effect they will have in Zone B.
In 2019 india with a small software platform from govt changed the fortunes of Visa, Master Card, and American Express. A digital interface on a phone which enables vendors and customers to transact directly through the govt owned back end with no fee required enabled a huge explosion in cashless transaction. This also had the unfortunate effect of eating into 70% share of transactions of Visa & Master Card in less than a year. Some minor costs on part of banks are being subsidised by the govt to the tune of nearly a couple of billion dollars yearly( govt saves huge amounts as the Card companies no longer have huge profits to repatriate back to the home countries ) Search for UPI and RuPay in India.
Same with companies seeking to do business in India and earn off the huge indian market. Amazon, Walmart etc were allowed to enter india in the hope of making hundreds of billions in turnover but they were hobbled by not not having direct access to the consumer. As usual they were hoping things would change slowly with help from US govt.
But India got them in they built the infrastructure people learnt how things work, local competition grew that talent trained by the MNC moved there and now they are not in dominant position. Walmart withdrew from India after 25 years. Govts changed their hopes increased but were dashed again and again. Amazon is not allowed to sell directly to consumer it can only run a market place. In hope of beating Amazon or the now exited Walmart a new format of online sales through mobile app through the second biggest phone provider Jio lured a range of companies like Facebook, black Rock etc to invest tens of billions in the company but still no market share as govt keeps tweaking the rules .
The famed hundreds of billions from Indian consumers are not coming forth. While indian companies are slowly moving up the value chain. Companies like Harley, Ford all have left india bitter after their experience in not getting profits. GM brands are on the ropes. Korean Japanese and Indian brands dominate. In fact Indian brands have significantly moved up the value chain.
This shows that there are multiple ways to knee cap the super power. India is doing it the death by a thousand cuts method. China is taken the other route. Russia is providing the kinetic method.
By the way India is largely self sufficient in food. If India is self sufficient in food so can Africa be. Many smaller countries agriculture is undeveloped because US and EU subsidise their food producers. If Zone A is unable to give subsidies to agriculture then zone B will have a huge boost in income as well as infrastructure to feed themselves. India has also in practice nullified American patents in seeds while allowing them to dream of big riches.
So in short the world is huge, really really huge. Powerful as the West is it won’t be able to impose it’s will any longer because the ingredients that made it powerful are now mastered by zone B too and you can’t beat demographics even with a slightly uneven playing field. Russia is however rapidly accelerating the pace of change. But the main job is being done by zone A itself.
I wasn’t too aware that there is really a global capitalist oligarchic imperialist conspiracy against Russia, because i was watching a Russian movie about an extraterrestrial invasion and I said: “wow, this movie is a lot better than the capitalist-imperialist movieTop Gun Maverick (the latest Top Gun 2 2022 movie). Here is the link of that Russian movie called “Invasion” https://solarmovie-ma.123cdn.pm/watch-movie/invasion-2020-online-free-full-movie123/rvqwwbkd-rvy93wpy?watchnow=1 and I read a lot of negative reviews from Rotten Tomatoes and other right-wing movie websites. And then I realized that there is really a conspiracy against Russia, because i considered that movie a lot better, less boring and with more action than many of the Tom Cruise, Ben Affleck and right-wing imperialist movie stars
Don’t forget about the burnout factor, which is apparently affecting both zones negatively right now.
Even Rome fell apart after 1000 years, at least in the occident.
The problem with every tyranny (even in grade school) is that there are always people who want to bask in the radiated glory, vicariously close to the ‘winner’, but because of the undeniable distance at which they orbit the center of power, even more fanatical to repress the gnawing doubt (e.g., EU, with its we are a ‘values community’) that they themselves are not the sun.
If we want to go beyond simple specualtion into thorough analysis — a formidable undertaking — it is not enough to simply posit ‘Russia loses the war’ but requires we consider how and why that could happen. It must entail either a catastrophic fall in Russian organization and effectiveness, and how that might possibly happen, or some miraculous transformation of the US and empire into a competent organization, run by competent leaders. It’s doubtful even a wunderwaffer — wonder weapon — would be sufficient, given that Russia;s nuclear arsenal is so powerful. Would there be some world wide coalition leaving Russia with only enemies? How could any of this happen? Certainly not in a vacuum. Flying saucer people intervening on behalf of the empire? Hardly.
No, reversing the current trends and movements would be like blocking an avalance or rock slide once it gathered speed going down the slope, without a previously installed strong barrier, but nothing like that exists, and even the fragile political and economic barriers protecting the hegemony are breaking apart and falling away now. Even Engineer Scott can not change the laws of physics, and vast momentum of the multipolar world can not be negated, except in a few isolated places, such as the US and EU, which are headed for very tough times unless some changes in policy are made while the rest of the world thrives. Unless — the empire loses the last vestages of sanity and nukes us all.
The great challenge ahead, whatever the outcome of the current war is catastrophic change, massive crop failures and famine, widespread plagues from changes in the biosphere and animal populations and distributions and economic disruptions, or losing the knowledge, technology, and skills needed to meet these possible major problems, which requires advanced civilizations such as Russia and China to maintain. Even if they ‘win’ a prolonged destructive war might damage technological solutions, such as we see in Europe who are reverting to wood and coal for power, and Eurasia might also be knocked back in capacity enough to allow plague, flood, drought, etc. to run rampant. It’s not just ‘winning’ or ‘losing’ but all the damage, and opportunity costs, just fighting the war, which could do us in.
Defeat with 6000 nukes? Even if it gets to the point of Mutually Assured Destruction all out war Russia still wins while her adversaries perish. According to the experts peculiarities of geography would allow Russia to survive (however with enormous devastation and losses) and her enemies exterminated once and for all. The price is well worth it.
Oh, and the best part about the MAD extermination of the judeo-masonic empire will be incineration of israhell.
It would be 1993 again which was the beginning of the long western ecconomic boom of the 90`s and 00`s.
Thinking about it the beginning of the boom is suspiciously close to the end of the USSR and the crash of 2007 suspiciously close to when Putin completed nationalising of the oil & gas companies.
The boom will probably last longer this time for the minority that would get filthy rich, globalisation would continue but they`ll pick a smarter place like africa this time rather than a potential rival like China or India.
The rest of the population not included in this boom will be dumped on welfare as usual
Andrei,
I don’t understand the so-called conservatives who are “Pro-Kiev”. I know the UK has these Patriotic types too who wave the Union Jack and yearn for a showdown with Russia without asking themselves why are they defending the very Cabal that is destroying their own nations and civilization from within?
I akin them to sports fanatics. To them Washington or London is “their team” even if “their team” has been hard at work for decades trying to rid themselves of these pesky peasants they have to feed.
I think those of us in the West with any understanding of the true essence of Russia understand that Russia is the hope of the West. In Russia we see a modern nation that has not forgotten it’s deep roots in the past and it’s Ancient Christian soul. In Russia we see a nation where tradition and culture are preserved without holding the nation back because Russia has reached the intellectual heights. In Russia there are brilliant scientists, architects, mathematicians, engineers. In Russia the arts (including Western Arts) have been meticulously preserved from the modern Western perversions. We find wonderful composers of classical music, opera, ballet, theater. In many ways Russia has preserved the very best of Western Civilization and Culture. Russia has a very strong academic culture. Russia has also a very deep Orthodox spiritual tradition and culture. Like I said Russia is a light to the West. It’s showing that all these aspects of society can work in harmony with each other and still be relevant in the modern world. The Western Ruling Elites keep their power over the masses by keeping the masses divided against each other. It is the opposite of the Russian model of societal harmony.
Underneath it all the Western Ruling Class are despots, they are tyrants afraid of their own people. They hate Russia for exposing their weaknesses. Russia threatens their hegemony. Russia won’t play their game. Russia will not allow them to exploit her resources and people. For all these reasons Russia must be destroyed.
A complete disaster for the normal people of the ‘collective west’. Subjected to all manner of social engineering and totalitarianism from the Woke governments and the Globalist Elites. Serfdom and LGBT would be compulsory. The torch of Freedom and Civilization is being carried by Russia.
It’s only since the beginning of the SMO to date that I’ve fully grasped how pitifully ignorant and spiritually redundant the vast majority of western cabbages truly are.
When you study the books, film and documentary of Nazi German propaganda on how a whole nation succumbed to the degree of control imposed upon it by their leaders, with the Gestapo firing squads awaiting dissenters ( much like how NATO trained Right Sector operate in the rear of the Donbass frontlines), you can almost forgive their compliance, having been driven to despair by US-European financial reparations/sanctions after WWI, undergoing 2 decades of depression.
What excuse the sorry sacks of mollycoddled western lemmings, complicit by their silence, as well as being indirect beneficiaries of their government’s looting, sacking and genocidal crusades into Zone B? Only a handful give a fook and we’re not talking about the crown-controlled western NGO’s masquerading as charitable organisations who shamelessly solicit for donations for Ukraine & Yemen rather that protest these illegal wars.
The old empire is in its final death throes, thrashing around like a virgin in a whorehouse, and where a fistful of dollars won’t buy you a sack of fertiliser or rice in the near future. There’s no turning back what Russia has set in motion across Zone B.
God Bless Putin and Russia for their sacrifice to mankind.
I caught a glimpse of a documentary in Japan yesterday, where they were interviewing people in New York City. Food prices are through the roof. Translating back from yen into dollars, a dozen eggs was $7.00, a bowl of ramen, $10.00, a fairly large fancy pastry, $18.00. These are at least twice what we would pay in Japan. One lady spoke of donating blood for money each week or two, while she searches for extra work. She voted Democrat, and the reason was she thought the Republicans would be even more elitist. Most of my liberal friends, even from Australia, still think the US Republicans are the elitist faction.
Long soup-kitchens and food banks is the order of the day here in Blighty, (Scotland & Wales even worse so) UK, for the growing disenfranchised browbeaten cattle.
Tens of thousands of renters in court unable to pay their landlords.
Christmas and New Year light shows cancelled, and yet, this clown, Noddy Big-Ears, Rasheed (well Joe Biden’s pet name) Sunak, calling Russia a pariah State. Scholz, the Garden Gnome Party, is still not at liberty to say who blew up the NS1&2 Pipelines, decimating German industry. Rent-boy Macron, fresh from being kicked out of another African colony says he’ll call Putin after the G20. The Gremlin-Hobbit lovechild, Janet Yellen, capping energy prices in her wet-dreams, while (tell your friend the Dems are Evil, the Repugnants just amateurs) Victoria Nuland demands more regime changes for her new super-duper cookie recipe.
Is it true 90% of the Japanese population are battery operated Patricia?
Ich wünsche mir,. dass nicht das AngloZionistische Reich gewinnt, denn dann kommt etwas was 100 mal schlimmer war (für die Menschheit) als die Niederlage des Sozialismus. Der Sozialismus mit all seinen Fehlern, sei es wirtschaftlicher- und menschlicher Natur, war ein Schlaraffenland gegenüber den Zielen die sich diese Eliten für die Menschen ausgedacht haben.
Mit dem Ende der DDR hatten alle gesamtdeutschen Regierungen keine Veranlassung mehr, das Sozialsystem der BRD aufrecht zu erhalten. Schritt für Schritt wurde und wird das Sozialsystem der BRD unter dem Deckmantel von Reformen zurück gefahren. Reform heißt im Duden; Veränderung zum Bessern. Das Bildungssystem, das Rentensystem, das Gesundheitssystem, alle Sozialleistungen werden zurecht gestutzt oder privatisiert. Mein Vater hat als Rentner noch 69% seines Lohnes netto als Rente bekommen. Ich bin zum Ende letzten Jahres Rentner geworden. Ich bekomme 49% brutto. Meine Rente wird noch besteuert. Ich beachte dabei nicht die Inflation.
Seit der Einigung Deutschlands 1870 haben die Engländer nur ein Ziel, das sich Deutschland und Russland Verbündete werden. Zweimal haben sie es geschafft Deutschland in einen Weltkrieg zu treiben. Ich will hierbei die Schuldfrage Deutschlands nicht schmälern. Es wird auch vergessen, dass einflussreiche Kreise aus den USA und England die Nazis finanziell unterstützt haben und durch ihre Politik des Lavierens das Naziregime ermuntert haben, immer größere Forderungen zu stellen (siehe Chamberlin). Nach Beginn des 2. Weltkrieges sind sie nicht ihren Bündnisverpflichtungen nachgekommen.
Mit der Gründung der EU (Vorgänger EWG) war ein Krieg in Europa nicht mehr nötig. Deutschland war als Nettozahler eingebunden.
Jetzt ist das System der Geldvermehrung am Ende seiner Kapazitäten angekommen. Man kann ja bekanntlich nicht ständig Stroh zu Gold spinnen (siehe Börsenwetten auf Alles). Man braucht Rohstoffe und wo gibt es die in Überfluss? Russland. Das Ziel ist es Russland zu schwächen, zu zerteilen willfährige Marionetten einsetzen um so günstig an die Rohstoffe zu kommen.
Man muß sich nur an die Rolle von BlackRock in der Ukraine denken.
Was die Menschheit insgesamt betrifft, so denke ich, dass es eine Bevölkerungsreduktion kommt und wir wieder in eine Art von Feudalismus abgleiten. All das erinnert mich stark an die Filme “Die Tribute von Panem”. Möge Gott dies nicht zulassen.
I wish,. that not the AngloZionist Empire wins, for then comes something 100 times worse (for mankind) than the defeat of socialism. Socialism with all its mistakes, be it of economic and human nature, was a land of milk and honey compared to the goals that these elites came up with for the people.
With the end of the GDR, all all-German governments no longer had any reason to maintain the social system of the FRG. Step by step the social system of the FRG has been and is being scaled back under the guise of reforms. Reform means in the dictionary; change for the better. The education system, the pension system, the health system, all social benefits are rightly being cut or privatized. As a pensioner, my father still received 69% of his net wages as a pension. I retired at the end of last year. I get 49% gross. My pension is still taxed. I don’t take inflation into account.
Since the unification of Germany in 1870, the English have had only one goal: that Germany and Russia become allies. Twice they managed to drive Germany into a world war. I don’t want to belittle Germany’s question of guilt here. It is also forgotten that influential circles in the USA and England supported the Nazis financially and, through their tackling policy, encouraged the Nazi regime to make ever greater demands (see Chamberlin). After the start of World War II, they failed to meet their alliance obligations.
With the foundation of the EU (predecessor EEC) a war in Europe was no longer necessary. Germany was involved as a net contributor.
Now the system of multiplying money has reached the end of its capacity. As is well known, one cannot constantly spin straw into gold (see stock market bets on everything). You need raw materials and where can you find them in abundance? Russia. The aim is to weaken Russia, to split it up and use compliant puppets to get raw materials cheaply.
Just think of BlackRock’s role in Ukraine.
As for humanity as a whole, I think there’s going to be population reduction and we’re slipping back into some kind of feudalism. All this reminds me a lot of the movies “The Hunger Games”. May God not allow this.
That nightmare scenario is exactly why I have been cheering for the Russians. I see the Russians as the Christian bulwark against the forces of Satan.
A hypothetical Russian defeat would be a disaster bigger than the dissolution of the Soviet Union. I would argue that every single benefit capitalism ever agreed to provide to the general population would not be necessary v& would not be provided if not for the existence of the Soviet Union. We all would have had something what eg. Jack London described in his Iron Heel.
I like standing orders like clean the threads of a bolt before torquing or wear your seatbelt. I have spent my life disobeying ego explosions from authorities. Only really good teachers liked me, most hated. Any instruction to so on or so forth registers as a challenge. Oh indeed the military was not fun for me.
So your assignment certainly rubs me the wrong way. But you have credentials the others didn’t. Maintaining and growing the most amazing site. So forced myself to comply.
In the event of a Russian loss the vast majority of people in the West will continue to stick to the herd. My family always had great arguments at meals. Now they demand safe topics, no ‘negativity’. Boring.
Raised as wolves they are all sheep. It’s depressing as hell. Same with most folks, friends, acquaintances. They cannot defend their beliefs, but just like cult members, they cannot abide any other idea to enter their consciousness.
Those who seek the truth would be most upset to see the world’s hope vanish. But it’s hard to snooze when your core beliefs are reinforced on a regular basis from heroic folks who are not afraid to speak truth to power.
The pandemic of suicide and opioid use would not go away but increase as resources will continue to be cut off to unessential people to save the ‘environment,’ consolidate the power of those already criminally successful, and further propagate indeed codify, satanic impulses.
As normal rational people become more and more cancelled, the odds will decrease that a simple show of numbers will make a difference. The number of do Gooders who will turn you in will also decrease as more and more folks experience what Germans must feel to watch their masters switch off their heat without blinking an eyelid. They will have helicopters and bunkers; we will know we are right.
In short, we are already well on our way to exceeding the worst excesses of the USSR, a loss would be the snowball tipping over the cliff edge. It’s ironic as hell.
We need ex-communists to save us from our freedom.
If there is an all out war between the US and Russia and it ends with a nuclear holocaust, then the only real winners would be Africa and South America. Both Merkel and the Bush family bought large tracts of land in Paraguay in case of this eventually. A number of oligarchs have also bought property in New Zealand.
However, nuclear weapons have now been miniaturized and can be delivered by truck to their destination, as they were in Manhattan.
For over half a century the basic assumption has been no one can survive a nuclear holocaust. Could you provide an interesting reference to bring me up to speed on this new paradigm please? Preferable one not firmly ensconced behind an already well-funded organizations paywall or a long, for me, meaningless copy and paste of googie goop or wikipiss.
“the oppressed people of the West”
Talk about hyperbole.. You literally live in “the west” (The USA) and rail against your own government without any fear of persecution whatsoever. In fact you make money off of this. How is that not freedom? How is that oppression? Sure, social media companies are biased and censor their users; that’s a HUGE difference from a government persecuting it’s people for the things they say. “oppressed people of the west”, c’mon man!
“the US political system is neither viable nor reformable. The EU political system is basically an extension of the US political system”
Wildly inaccurate statement in that the EU political system is a parliamentary system; overwhelming majority of individual systems that make up the EU are parliamentary monarchies. These are completely different to the US’ Constitutional Republic (USA).
Besides being inaccurate, you left out the most important parts:
1) What is so wrong with a Constitutional Republic and
2) What would be a better system?
You missed that whole Julian Assange thing, eh?
FTX surely points to a fully functioning mafia, not anything more or less.
When upwards of 50% of the population are literally incapable of thinking for themselves one must ask who is in charge and what is their goal?
That the internet knows more about you then you do is not something to be celebrated, unless you are an oligarch.
I disagree. China and RoW don’t require Russia to establish the NIEO–New International Economic Order–which is already about 50% complete and will end Dollar Hegemony. To provide my reasoning for my opinion would require a rather long essay. The gist is that China plus RoW has greater resources and most importantly is solvent and culturally stable, while already having very strong geoeconomic ties. The Outlaw US Empire still remains dependent on RoW for critical resources, most importantly energy resources, but very few nations are willing to accept worthless script for their valuable resources. Furthermore, in the process of defeating Russia, the Outlaw US Empire also destroyed its most valuable asset–Europe, which despite cutting its ties to Russia remains geoeconomically dependent on Russia: Europe cannot be economically viable and be able to purchase anything from the Empire without energy and other Russian resources. And the same can be said about Europe’s relations with China. Killing Germany’s economy as Hudson has illustrated on several occasions dooms all of Europe to a cold, deindustrialized future none of its Neoliberal Parasite “leaders” saw as their outcome as Crooke has described over his series of essays on the subject. In a similar manner, Neoliberal Parasitism continues to destroy the Outlaw US Empire from the inside and has reduced its military to a small shadow of its former self and thus makes it easily defeatable by China and RoW.
That’s the Executive Preview of what would be a much longer essay. For those who missed it, I very highly suggest reading my report on Putin’s remarks made to the Pobeda Committee yesterday, most of which is being omitted by Russian media. Also, readers should know Putin issued a decree on 9 November, “In accordance with the Federal Law of June 28, 2014 No. 172-FZ ‘On Strategic Planning in the Russian Federation’: Decree on Approval of the Fundamentals of State Policy for the Preservation and Strengthening of Traditional Russian Spiritual and Moral Values.” Yes, his talk touched much of what’s included in that decree, which can be read in Russian here.
I understand Saker’s thought experiment, but IMO the outcome posited will not occur; and even if it did, the Outlaw US Empire will still be defeated by China and RoW as the current balance between the two sides doesn’t favor the Empire at all for reasons I mentioned and for many others I didn’t, inability to project power anymore being fundamental.
Why Ukraine deliberately attacked Poland.
“The U.S. intelligence community has new information that the explosion in Poland was from at least one or as many as two Ukrainian SA-10 surface-to-air missiles that went off course, source says – WaPo”
Looks to me the Ukraine deliberately attacked Poland. Why? Because cruise missiles hug the terrain, they fly low and cannot be detected by any radar. An airdefense is stationed near critical infrastructure, protecting it against cruise missiles. When a cruise missile approaches a target, it climbs then drops onto the target. It is only in the split second when the cruise missile climbs that it can be seen by radar and airdefense.
Ukraine shot two airdefense missiles to the west (Poland). Why did they do that if Russian cruise missiles came in from the east? Russia hit targets in Ukraine no further than 35 km from the Polish border.
Right after the attack Polish peasants took pictures of the missile debris and put it online for everybody to see. Nato (and Biden) could not deny anymore it was Ukrainian origin and yet Ukrainian regime keeps on spreading the lies it was Russian. Why? Because Ukraine deliberately attacked Poland and wanted to hide that fact while blaming Russia in the public arena. Their false flag attack failed because of a Polish peasant who took pictures of the missile debris and posting it online.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Zagreb_Tu-141_crash
This is not the first time Ukraine has attacked a NATO country. The first time it was Croatia in March of 2022 , also unprovoked and also a civilian target.
A deliberate Ukrainian attack on Poland according to Jaroslaw Pakula, president city council of Lublin:
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I do not understand the actions of our President and the government at all. Of course, this is a Ukrainian rocket. Of course, this is a provocation on the part of the Ukrainian authorities. The rocket could not have been launched by mistake at 100 km in the opposite direction. The purpose of the provocation is to speed up the supply of arms to Ukraine, to intimidate Europe with the “terrible Russia”, so that civil society will demand more help for Ukraine from European governments.
Today, our President does not have to tell us a fairy tale like “It was not so much an explosion of a rocket as an explosion of the fuel that was there” and “it was an unfortunate accident”, but to explain to Volodymyr Zelensky that Poland will not put up with such behavior of the Ukrainian government again!
I urge you to rethink Poland’s position in this war in case of another red line crossing!
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Source:
https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2022&mm=11&dd=17&nav_category=78&nav_id=2243814
Zelensky asked to arrange a call with Biden after the incident in Poland, but the conversation DID NOT take place, CNN reports.
Yes definitely the fate of mankind is at sake here.
NATO in its present form under those who control it are the enemy of mankind.
The WEF controls it and they are the Nazis Party Mk2 now on EU world scale hiding under other clothing and rhetoric such as the UN, Build Back Better etc…..
Intelligent informed ordinary people know this.
NATO will though have problem if they cannot recruit people to fight, or workers in factories supplying them sabotage production. Govts and the two party states in EU US will fall in the end.
The sooner military commands in US EU UK deal with the corrupt politicians / leaders promoting unnecessary and wrongful UKN-RUSSIA conflict, the better.
BRAZIL’s current situation of this stolen election by Lula which the WEF is behind, also bears noting here and that has to be dealt with too with Bolsonaro and the Military cleaning up the the system there including the courts. Brazil also being a BRICS member, and we can expect attacks on China, India and South Africa to follow and are being plotted right now.
The west’s system is corrupt and always has been (particularly since the 1850s industrlalization with railroads), and while that usually produces economic expansions etc… it has gone beyond the point that is tolerable.
The end result will be though the elites in the west will themselves find themselves targets and will be restricted in their activities and destroyed. (eg Marcos in Philippines, Batista in Cuba etc…).
This is the most important point which people living in the Empire of Evil need to understand!!! I have been wondering for a long time why this point is made so rarely even in the “alternative media”. While it is true that I think that the Russians are on the right side of history in this conflict from a purely ethical point of view, that is not the main reason that I hope that they will win this conflict. The truth is that I mainly hope for a Russian victory because that is the only hope for my children. Our foreign rulers need us only if the Russians and the Chinese are able to build an alternative which is able to stand up to the Empire of Evil. Only if that happens will the foreign rulers of the Empire relax their genocidal grip (not anymore only in a cultural, but now even in a literal sense) on the West. Only if they need sufficiently many happy (and thus productive) slaves who produce enough to allow them to keep the East in check, will they give our children a bit of freedom and enough space to survive. If the Russians loose, then the first ones to pay the highest price will not even be the Russians themselves but the Europeans who are under the control of the Empire of Evil.
This point needs to be made over and over again. Even if the Russians were the orks as which they are painting them in the media, and even if they had the intention to occupy parts of Europe, we would still have better chances of survival becoming part of the battlefield than ending up in an Empire of Evil which has come out victoriously of the Ukrainian battlefields.
This does not mean that I wish that the Russians become the Lords of the world. Quite to the contrary. I wish for a world were multiple loose blocks are competing with each other. If there ever is a situation where one block becomes fully dominant, then that is bad news for billions of people.
“Maybe they simply got used to being slaves and the idea of *real* freedom and diversity simply terrifies them?”
This last sentence of your article reflects exactly the situation of most western states.
Socialistic governance has decapacitated 90% of the populace.
The word “slavery” is also true, as normal working people do neither have the time, nor the energy to contemplate their situation, as they must spend their time with earning a living, doing household, raising children, getting to and from work and so on.
And those, who live off the state have such a plush life, that they will not invest any energy for changing their situation.
The regime has already enslaved and corrupted it’s population.
It’s not about geography. It’s about the rights of a people who inherited the freedom from communism via the KMT which took refuge in this offshore island that was about as Han Chinese as Tibet (i.e. not at all). The CCP is the problem. Marxism is just criminality and the CCP are squatting in the Chinese state, pillaging and stealing everything. The relative difference in prosperity between the ROC and the PRC tells you all you need to know. Taiwan is not part of the PRC.