By Aram Mirzaei
Even though I have my doubts over whether Washington will actually withdraw from Syria fully, it seems as if their Kurdish proxies in northern Syria have been left to defend for themselves against the ongoing Turkish offensive. I can’t say I’m surprised since Washington has done this to their Kurdish “partners” many times before, yet the Kurdish leadership across Iraq and Syria have failed to learn from history yet again.
Once more, the Kurdish leadership have been proven to have put their faith in the wrong allies. When Moscow stepped into the Syrian war four years ago, Moscow gave the YPG the same offer that Assad had given before: reconcile with Damascus and join forces against terrorism. They refused. Moscow tried again by offering them to set up a consulate in Moscow, inviting them to peace talks in Astana and offering them safety from Turkish attacks, if they agreed to a deal with Damascus, one that respects Syria’s territorial integrity. Moscow even offered talks on a guarantee for future Kurdish participation in Syrian politics. They refused once again, with a spokesperson for the YPG explaining that Washington does not allow them to talk to Moscow. Such was the nature of the US-Kurdish “alliance”.
When the so called “Islamic State” terrorist group was about to collapse in 2017, the US backed “Syrian Democratic Forces”, of which YPG is part of, was quick to grab as much land as possible. Then came the threats against Damascus and the Syrian Army, to back off from entering the eastern shores of the Euphrates. Fortunately, Moscow, Tehran and Damascus saw Washington’s moves early on as they managed to capture the imperative city of Albukamal, located exactly at the Syrian-Iraqi border, before Washington could. In capturing this city, Damascus and Baghdad have been able to re-open the Tehran-Damascus highway stretching from Iran, through Iraq and into Syria, connecting the three countries and enabling the transportation of supplies from Iran to Syria.
The SDF managed to secure many of Syria’s oil fields in their push to capture the eastern parts of the Deir Ezzor province. Having grabbed such a large part of Syria, the Kurdish leadership felt safe with US forces backing them against Damascus.
This stance didn’t seem to change when Turkish forces together with their proxy jihadists launched the Afrin offensive. US forces did nothing to protect their Kurdish vassals from harm as Turkish forces easily captured the entire Afrin Canton within weeks. The Kurdish leadership was offered a deal with Damascus in which control over the Afrin area would be handed over to the Syrian Army before Turkish forces could capture it. Alas this suggestion was refused by the stubborn Kurdish leadership who would rather let Ankara and the Jihadists capture that area.
So 18 months later, the US has seemingly withdrawn and abandoned the Kurdish-led militias to fend for themselves against Ankara and a hostile Damascus. Not so surprising considering Washington’s track record. The Turkish Army and its proxies launched their offensive on Wednesday and quickly announced gains that same day. Since then, several towns along with the border city of Tal Abyad have fallen into Turkish hands as reports have emerged that imprisoned ISIS militants have escaped from their prisons as a result of Turkish bombardments of several prisons in the Hasakah province.
The offensive has caught an enormous amount of media attention, as the Kurds have for long been the Western Media darlings, capturing many people’s hearts with footage of young armed women battling the perverted terrorist forces of the “Islamic State”.
Washington and the European vassals have all howled and voiced their “concerns” over Turkey’s offensive. Some have called for resolutions and embargoes on Turkey for “violating international law” and “endangering the region”. What a joke! Look at the people expressing their “concern”: Hillary Clinton, Lindsey Graham and Nikki Haley. These are some of the people that are concerned that Turkey is “endangering the region”.
Now when Twitter is being filled with videos of executed Kurdish fighters, these people recognize the same “FSA” militants that they used to cheer for to execute Syrian soldiers, for what they are, barbarian scum.
Just a few days after the commencement of the offensive, Kurdish officials began contemplating the idea of turning to Moscow and Damascus for help, but not before asking Washington one last time to confirm their betrayal. SDF General Mazloum Kobani openly indicated in an interview with CNN that dealing with Moscow and Damascus is an option if the US fails to protect the Kurds from Turkey. “I need to know if you are capable of protecting my people, of stopping these bombs falling on us or not. I need to know, because if you’re not, I need to make a deal with Russia and the regime now and invite their planes to protect this region”, Kobani said.
What a sad statement. He needs a receipt of Washington’s betrayal, as if it was a surprise when he and his colleagues have been warned for years about Washington’s treacherous nature. Reports have previously suggested the amassing of Syrian Army forces near Manbij in the Aleppo province, with the aim of entering and taking over the area. The same has been said about Hasakah and Qamishli in the northeastern parts of the country. If true, then this would create a situation similar to the one two years ago when the Islamic State was collapsing. As mentioned before, back in 2017, as the Islamic State was collapsing, the SAA and the US-backed SDF were racing to capture as much territory as possible. This resulted in the Euphrates turning into a demarcation line between SAA and SDF controlled territory, a line that has been in place since 2017. Now, it seems as if a new race is on, as the Syrian Army is racing against time, with the jihadists rapidly advancing and are inching closer to Raqqa city.
If the Kurdish militias are willing to cooperate, then Damascus must be harsh in its demands. The Kurdish militias must hand over their weapons and the territory they’re occupying if they want to have any chance of surviving the Turkish-led onslaught. But they need to act quickly, time is running out for the Kurdish militiamen.
Will the Kurds choose poorly again?
Clever Russian diplomacy. When it’s time for the Kurds to receive some stick, the Turks deliver it, The Americans receive the blame, the Syrians get more of their territory back and the Kurds are humbled.
Very well put. The west has always underestimated Vladimir Putin.
The Kurds missed a colossal opportunity in 2015, to be equal partners with the Syrian government in arms which would have bought them respect from the rest of Syria and the region and their situation would be a favorable one after the war (which would have possible ended by now). Instead they were wooed by American lies and now have to whore out whatever is left of their dignity to whoever will take it. It’s either whore yourself out or get raped, since your pimp just kicked your ass to the curb.
Djordje
The Kurds – foolishly – agreed to become Washington’s proxy fighters in the Middle East, tasked with capturing Iraqi and Syrian oil fields, and hoping to profit by it. They failed. Now they are abandoned by Washington, which is no big surprise if you take into account US foreign policy. And yes, they should have made a deal with Damascus years ago.
I only disagree with that
If the Kurdish militias are willing to cooperate, then Damascus must be harsh in its demands.
Instead try to be generous. Treat them not like a defeated foe but as a brother that made an error. Make them feel welcome to be back home.
So, maybe you will not have the same problems after 20-30 years and you may even gain a loyal ally.
They want their own state, period. Kurds are extremelly opportunistic, but always make wrong choices.
You can be as genereous as you like, but their ultimate goal is Indipendent state of Kurdistan.
Well said –the Kurds are brave & stateless – they deserve compassion. Hope Syria can agree.
To bad the Kurds were so confident in erasing Syrian Christians (ethnic cleansing) in their ill-fated attempt at 21st century Zionism tactics so readily used in Gaza and the West Bank.
Right! Free oil and the best crop lands in all of Syria! Go for it!
Looks like the Kurdish forces have given into Damascus – here are updates as they come in on Sputniknews:
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201910131077037552-live-updates-turkey-conducts-offensive-in-syria-for-5th-day-amid-growing-pushback/
and
https://www.rt.com/news/470859-syria-army-turkey-agression/
“….The Kurdish-led administration in northern Syria said in a statement that an agreement has been reached with Damascus for the Syrian government troops to be deployed along the border with Turkey.
The Syrians will deploy to the strategic Kurdish-held border town of Kobani within 48 hours, Lebanese broadcaster al-Mayadeen reported. RT’s sources in the region also confirmed the reports.
The Syrian army already entered the city of Manbij in the northern province of Aleppo late on Sunday, al-Mayadeen reported. The Kurd militiamen let the government troops pass through their checkpoints unhampered.The distance between Manbij and Kobani is around 60 milometers, a one-hour car drive………”
Syrian army never entered the city of Manbij according to the report linked in another comment.
“The Syrian government, meanwhile, said in a press release that the coalition does not let them enter Manbij.”
And the coalition bombed SAA. Wild Speculation abounds
Americans are still in Manjib, only as soon as their Rangers are changed for Russian Military Police we know it is over. However, locals are celebrating already. And what about Cobani?
I personally expect clashes btw. Turks and SAA, not a full war. The region is rotten and spoiled, you can never trust neither Turks nor Kurds. And Zionists are playing well this card.
Here a synthesis of many local sources https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5346492.html
We shall have patience and wait a few hours. (Removed call for killing.MOD) And I am pretty aware that Erdogan who helped them and traded with them the Syrian oil will not make it….
The Kurds will never be loyal. Ethno-nationalism too ingrained in them. They are racist towards all non-Kurds. Remember 2/3 of these “Syrian” Kurds were refugees from Turkey and Syria gave them citizenship. They repaid Syria by trying to steal 35% of the territory and dealing with ISIS and USA. They are Marxists and racial Nationalists, hence Kurdish National Socialists
Kurds have a dream. They want their own country. Explain what is the problem.
Kurds are a minority in several countries but they are local majorities where they live. They want a country carved out of other countries. While their wish sounds noble and nice, it is an anathema to every country in the world that has a localized minority. That is not a couple of countries. that is the majority of the UN assembly.
They will not get what they wish for, at least not at that time of human history. Why do you think that even Turkey wants to safeguard Syria’s territorial integrity. Changing that is a can of worms. Kosovo and Crimea were the exceptions that proved the rule.
Some sort of federation autonomy is the best they can get out of it and I think that their leaders started to realize that by now.
There are many different ethnicities who do not have their own country. But they manage to live peacefully in the country in which they were born. Not everyone has to be an Israeli
Win, I agree with you. This is what I have been thinking about the Kurds for some time – and what their leaders want to get for themselves from the spoils of their enterprise in Syria…
Ah, to call them of Marxists is a joke – they are just zionists in disguise, as greedy as the ishrealis in Palestine… Their kind of nationalism stinks…
@Erlindur: “Kurds have a dream. They want their own country. Explain what is the problem.”
Israel.
That’s what happens when people who want their own country fullfill their thousand years old dream: you get modern Israel, endless Apart-Hate, endless territorial expansion and endless wars against “existential threats”. That dream has passed its sell-by date.
“I have contacted the Enemy and He is Us”. — Pogo Possum
Neither Syria, Iraq, Turkey or Iran want to have a fake Kurdish state between them that can endlessly be used by Israel to stir up trouble. The Kurds in Iran live peacefully and are integrated. Why cannot the Kurds in Syria do the same?
“Why do you think that even Turkey wants to safeguard Syria’s territorial integrity.”
Spare us the histrionics!
The “Sultan” wants his net-ottoman Empire to begin and the oil fields are……kinda handy.
Ascribing altruistic motives to Erdogan while he claims all of the undersea resources of Cyprus rather belie any notion of “Mr Nice Guy” a pseudo Mr Rogers singing “It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood…”
One more psychopathic demagogue. That’s it. That’s all.
Differentiating between Kurdish groups – SDF allied; Non SDF allied.
There is also zero evidence, but lots of spin, that Washington ‘abandoned’ their kurdish allies, considering there was an incident involving US troops embedded with their allied Kurdish fighters just a few days ago
Explosion Near US Soldiers Occupying Alongside Kurdish Proxies
Lavrov stated very clearly Russia would only negotiate with Kurds who renounced terrorism-
Lavrov Said
“We will be pressing for the beginning of a dialogue between Turkey and Syria. There are reasons to believe that this will meet the interests of both countries. Also, we will be promoting contacts between Damascus and Kurdish organizations that renounce extremism and terrorist methods of activity,” Lavrov said.
The idea that there is an agreement between SDF/YPG/PKK at this time with Damascus seems unlikely, when one considers that if such an agreement had been negotiated between Russia, Damascus and whichever Kurdish groups there would be a multi party announcement- not random spouting off to the media
Additionally there is breaking news that the coaltion of the killing has just bombed a Syrian Army Convoy heading North/East. No word on casualties.
The Kurdish proxies have not been abandoned and as I suspected there is no deal between SDF and Damascus
“Coalition Jets Strike Syrian Regime Convoy” – No Deal With US Backed Kurdish Proxies
Fake news – There was no bombing of the SAA by the US. Also, there has been a deal. The Syrian Army is moving into Manbij and Kobani now. The SDF will become a part of the Syrian military. Can you say checkmate?
The US & Israeli war against Syria is now in its final days. It’s pretty much over. Once the Kurds re-integrate with the Syrian people, all that will be left is Idlib province. Once that’s taken care of, the war in Syria will have officially reached its end.
I can only imagine the abject horror & pain currently being experienced by the Neocons and their Zionist buddies.
We’ll see soon enough who is spreading fake news…
Those who claim a deal?
Those who claim SAA has entered Manbij?
Which is by the way, a claim I’ve heard and read made before- by the usual suspects. Disinfothama all around I’d say.
But then that couldn’t have been true all that time ago if SAA is supposedly entering Manbij at this time?
Nope just more fake news!
Absorbing SDF into SAA will be the death knell to Syria- As it was to Iraq. When they absorbed the PKK and other Iraqi Kurdish militias into their military.
The neocon zionist crowd would love for the SDF/PKK to be absorbed in SAA.
How pleased you and they must be? Hopeful as well, at this prospect.
Thank you for clarifying, at least calling the commenter’s statement into question. Looks like Penny was linking to her blog, good for the Saker & co. not allowing the hyperlink. I ran a search and the source it gave was only her blog (searching with the hyperlink title she provided.) Can appreciate skepticism and being wary at this stage in the game, however, I expect a lot of propaganda and disinfo/fake news in the coming days and weeks as events unfold. Have to be on guard as always. Going to prepare a homemade pizza in celebration of gains made thus far anyhow.
No one among observers anywhere in the world including me could figure the kurds – their leaderships – would be that stupid, that naive.
Their fellow ‘countrymen’ have been in contact with the US controled and US driven moves in Iraq, Syria, Turkey and even Iran. And this for more than 20 years…
They have seen what the exceptionalists have talked, tricked and DONE to all those parties in the Middle east.
But abused of Luck and still acted as perfect morons.
May Allah, the Merciful, have pity on them.
“May Allah, the Merciful, have pity on them.”
More likely “… Tawûsê Melek (also known as “Melek Taus”), the Peacock Angel.” (wikipedia)
The Kurds deserve everything they get.
They are the whores of the Middle East, forever whoring themselves out to the US, the Shah, the Zionist Regime, everybody.
Agreed. They come across as being roughly as smart as the Ukronazis (or the Psheks). With Assad, Putin, and — yes — Erdogan being way too intelligent to fall for their silly games, their best before date has expired. Putrid stench is what remains.
It has been widely reported that as of a few hours ago, the Kurds have made a deal with Damascus.
Don’t you just love it when world events move so quickly they’ve already outpaced the article you’ve just posted, *On the same day*, No less?
According to the deal, the SDF will become a part of the Syrian military. The SAA will cover the border areas for now, but I’m guessing they will also get the oil & water assets that were stolen from them back. The SDF will be a part of the National Defense Forces militia and will be allowed to protect their cities/villages like normal. However, they will not have autonomy. There will be no “Rojava” aka Israel 2.0 in Northern Syria.
This marks the end of the US & Israeli plan to destroy Syria and then to balkanize it using the Kurds. This plan is officially dead – The final nail has just been put in the coffin, folks.
Today is a truly great, and historic day. Once Syria’s oil assets are returned to them, their country’s economy can begin to normalize, and the oil & gas shortages that everyday Syrians were experiencing should come to an end. This will alleviate much of the suffering that was being experienced by the Syrian people, that was inflicted on them by the brutal sanctions plus oil and gas embargo. Thousands died during the harsh winters due to a lack of oil & gas. This should now no longer happen.
The Empire is reeling in pain today, my friends. Not only did their regime change plan in Syria completely fail, but now even Russia has been protecting Syria from Israeli airstrikes. They can’t even launch their pathetic little airstrikes against Syria anymore, and on top of that, the Kurds will now unify and re-integrate with the Syrian state, unifying the country and *officially ending the war* – At-least, once Idlib is finally taken care of.
I can only imagine the absolute Horror that is being experienced at this very moment by the Zionist Israeli’s and their faithful poodles over at the Pentagon and Langley, Virginia.
But we should be weary, because I fear that the Empire may lash out in rage and desperation. The attempt to impeach Trump will now likely intensify. He has committed the cardinal sin – Putting the final nail in the coffin of the US Regime change attempt in Syria. They will NEVER forgive him for this. And although he didn’t do it on purpose, they will hate him forever.
There is also a chance that Hillary may run again. If they manage to impeach Trump and then somehow polevault Hillary into the whitehouse in 2020, then we may have a problem.
But then again, the empire is failing on all fronts, so they’ll probably fail at that too. The weakness that has been displayed by the Empire lately has been insane. It is crumbling far faster than we could have ever imagined.
Today is a good day, my friends. I will remember it well.
So the back stabbers drop back 5 yards and concentrate on impeaching Trump? There is going to be a side of irony to go with this kabuki theater.
I have the same feelings… Perhaps we are over-optimistic… But, if correct, this is indeed a historic moment! However, if it doesn’t happen right now, this event shows that the end of the zionist land-grabbing will come someday – better sooner rather than later.
I’m going to be a contrarian and say that “If they manage to impeach Trump and then somehow polevault Hillary into the whitehouse in 2020” then it will be those coup-plotters who will be faced with a problem.
They will run a very real risk of “winning” the political manoeuvres of impeachment only to find themselves swinging from the end of a gibbet when they lose the civil war that they, themselves, will have unleashed.
Not “our” problem, of course, “we” will just be the horrified onlookers.
Why these crocodile tears and hysterical howling of the ‘right’ and ‘left’ about the Kurds? Because of the realization that the ‘Rojava project’ (part of the grander project of creation of ‘Greater Kurdistan’ as an Israel’s proxy state providing its oil, a bastion of “the most full-fledged democracy the Middle East has yet to see” (anarcho-communist) and springboard for anti-Russia terrorists, and spoiler of a political solution of the Syrian conflict, which was underlying the whole ‘Arab Spring’, is now ‘in imminent peril’. Actually the whole ‘Oded Yinon Plan’ is unraveling.
No less the realization that Russia, who was eliminated as an arbitrator in the ME by the bolshevik ‘revolution’, is back in force after 100 years.
Why do the house Negroes think they can get a piece of land the plantation owners stole? What are the Kurds thinking?
This is the same mentality in Hong Kong. The house Negroes rioting to bring back the plantation owners, not realising the field Negroes had kicked out all the plantation owners from their land and would win in the end against the plantation owners. The field Negroes own the land. And they are rioting to be slaves again?
And the Kurds wish for scraps from the table not thinking of retribution from the real owners when the plantation owners get kicked out?
My sympathies for the Kurds have run out. Unfortunately.
The whole imbroglio is, in my opinion, simply a scam to cover the re-vivification of Daash. After their ‘defeat’ in Mosul and Raqqa, the remnants ‘disappeared’ into US, and no doubt Turkish, safe-keeping, ‘R & R’ , further training and more recruitment. The Western fakestream media presstitutes can discover where the Daash women and children are, but the killers, rapers, torturers and head-loppers done disappeared. Now they are required to resume their role as good Sabbat Goyim (seven days a week) in fulfilling the Oded Yinon Plan, and attacking Russia, Iran and China. So they will, regretably (crocodile tears aplenty, faux outrage and barely concealed smirks and all)’escape’.
From the very first day of the war in Syria it was clear, that the real war and the real enemy was the kurds. ISIS was created as the perfect patsy and enemy to be defeated. First they would use the ISIS to destroy the central government in Syria and allow the creation of socalled local governments like turkman autonomous areas, Kurdish autonomous areas and ISIS Caliphate, after which the western colonial powers would create a global consensus and military coalition to defeat the ISIS by using the global msm with portraying them as the monsters, that these very media have been trying to hide. The ultimate goal has always been balkanization of Syria and creation of another israhell in the heart of the muslim world by using the kurds resulting ultimately in decades of civil unrest and civil wars in Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Syria. The israhllis, who have been training and arming the kurds would be able to destabilize and destroyed these actual and potential enemies of Israhell, if they are able to fool the world into helping the kurds by using this strategy.
US troops ‘leave’ Kobani as Turkish incursion advances and Kurds make deal with Damascus
https://www.rt.com/news/470871-us-troops-pullout-kobani-turkey-damascus/
“American troops have reportedly withdrawn from their observation post in the town of Kobani
A small number of US troops have also reportedly left their station in the town of Ain Issa, a Kurdish administration center located an hour’s drive south from Kobani.
The troops were relocated to other bases in Syria, according to Washington Post.
US Secretary of Defense Mark Esper said on Sunday that the US is planning to evacuate about 1,000 troops from northern Syria.
he told CBS. “There is no way they could stop 15,000 Turks from proceeding south.”
The Syrian Army entered the city of Manbij in the northern province of Aleppo late on Sunday, Lebanese broadcaster Al Mayadeen reported. They are said to be planning to reach Kobani, some 60 kilometers away, within 48 hours. RT’s sources in the region have confirmed the report.”
The israeloamerican/nato war against Syria is not over. Besides Idlib, there is also the al Tanf (spell?) concentration of israeloamericans in the south.
vot, those GI holed up in Tanf are sitting on the sands in a canoe without a paddle (as I said five years ago). Their supply route comes through Jordan, and Jordan has already reconciled with Syria. Their only hope is that U$ forces can somehow hold on in Iraq, and supply Tanf from the East.
What is the point now, of U$ troops sitting in Syria’s SE desert? What could they do if they managed to break out? What is their objective?. Or, in Trump Towers jargon, what would be the Bottom Line of further investment there?
“The Self-administration of Northeastern Syria, a political wing of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), announced on October 13 evening that it had reached a deal with the Damascus government.”
https://southfront.org/kurdish-led-sdf-says-it-reached-deal-with-damascus-syrian-army-marches-towards-kobani/
I think this news, together with Trump’s order to withdraw U$ troops, will give a fillip to re-election of The Great Peacemaker and his platform of “ending unnecessary wars”. But Trump will have to pacify more tears from his daughter and her Likudnik husband in Israel’s Yahoo regime.
“It is easier to rule an Empire than to rule a family” — Montaigne
Hmm….Damascus has not announced rhe terms short term long term etc that would be interesting ….maybe SDF trying to sound jubilant in some way trying to control the perceptions of the terms of the agreement if a substantive deal has been made…..Erdo might be acceptable to this as has said territorial integrity of Syria is important Lavrov agrees- leads on this and Erdo can hold Syria up to enforcing the Adana Treaty if it can which might strengthen possibilities of Turkey Syria rapprochement of a kind which is hinted at in recent days…however the sticking point might be the Turkish “supported” anti assad forces SNA etc that might welcome an opportunity to confront SAA and degrade them and continue to occupy the gained territory as an extended or reformatted Idlib (and in some way claiming and supported to be Syrian refugees aggrieved to be not part of the Astana process however)..halt everything or give further justification for Erdo to continue or even Damascus having to agree or sacrifice more control or agreements back to SDF to confront these Turkish mercenaries immoderate rebels whatever they can be called though Turkey seems happy with their self mislabelling Free Syrian Army Syrian liberation Front etc. These groups are still at the heart of the knotty problem that Erdo must still face up to surely…..one wonders exactly what how is their dialogue support funding etc with Turkey that is known and can be exposed..
There is still concerted action from SAA and Russia in Idlib to keep up the pressure but hopefully to contain these Turkish groups too….???????
A few strategic explosions from Yemen; the Saudi gang in existential fright; US $mercenaries fall back to protect the SA regime from (internal?) risk; a warning shot or two to an Iranian shipment…
“King Salman approves massive US military deployment for Saudi Arabia’s ‘defense’”
https://www.rt.com/news/470812-saudi-arabia-us-troops-deployment/
I should have put this here instead of where I did. Boots on the ground, so to speak, are reporting events.
Late yesterday local time (Sunday, 13 October), a deal was made between SAA (Syrian Arab Army), and SDF, the Kurds, and while there is a rumored ‘no fly’ protocol for Turk aircraft over Syria, the fact is on the ground Deir ez-Zor, Kobani, Hasakeh, Raqqa, Qamishli, Taqba Aerodrome and Taqba Dam area and many other areas are either occupied/liberated or in process of being occupied/liberated by two or more divisions of SAA with Russian air support. The ‘remaining’ 1000 US troops ’embedded’ with the Kurds are reported to have been ordered out asap, this to forestall any ‘unintentional’ contact/violence between US troops, Turk Army and SAA. This move will cleanse the vast agricultural areas along the river and dams and eliminate occupation of the Syrian oil fields with the resultant process since 2015 of the fields working at full capacity and product being sent through either Turkey or Irak and lining the pockets of various western, including American, pockets.
In my opinion, President Putin has driven a hard bargain with both Erdogan and Foggy Bottom. Foggy has no choice but to withdraw now, caught between a rock and a hard place of advancing Turk troops and advancing Syrian Arab Army troops who seem to have Russian air cover. It remains to be seen when the British, French, Polish and Dutch troops are either invited out or forced out, but at this time it looks like the occupation of northern and eastern Syria is in the beginning process of ending. As for the Ukrainian ‘advisers’ in the general area, I doubt they will make it ‘home’.
Of interest is, according to boots on the ground in the general area, various news ‘agencies’ have suddenly stopped calling Syrian Arab Army ‘regime’ forces and stopped calling President Assad’s government a ‘regime’. When they return to calling him Doctor Assad, we’ll know the worm has turned.
If there are other timely, and confirmed, reports, I’ll report them.
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Good news. Thanks Auslander.
Well i hope they do have Russian air cover,i wouldn’t want to try a move like that without it,if the Turks decide to get nasty they have a strong airforce that will need dealing with,the Syrians don’t have a strong airforce to engage in air to air combat, so i would hope Russia could make the North a no fly zone.
So far, it appears everyone is making nice. We’ll see what the next 24 hours brings.
Auslander
Thanks Auslander.
I also follow SyrianGirl’s blog here
https://twitter.com/partisangirl
Somebody took a snap of Skynews reporting change from ‘Syrian Regime Forces’ to ‘Syrian Army’.
https://twitter.com/Ayhammarjeh/status/1183584379211264001
Syrian girl is brilliant! It’s not a blog it’s twitter feed.
Yes, thanks of course it is a twitter feed … you caught me when my fingers outperformed my brain :-)
Game changer times, folks !
“the SAA has full control of Tabqa airbase at this very moment, used to be one of the most important airbase for all Syria…, while forces are safely moving to Tabqa city and Tabqa Dam at the moment.
It is expected that Raqqa will be under the Syrian Gov tomorrow, same as Manbij city.
The US forces are now mostly in the eastern and NE side of Syria, closer to Semalke border crossing and some oil fields such as Omar and yet in Manbij but on it way out, which means that most Raqqa Province will be under the SAA control in the next day or two, as well as most of the desert between Hasaka and Raqqa Provinces and many places north of the Euphrates in Deir ez Zour, lots of bridges are being placed on the Euphrates tonight, Engineers are busy as hell and tomorrow will be seeing many pics and videos of the SAA crossing the Euphrates.” (Canthama)
History in the making, live !
“The deal between the Syrian Gov and SDF is done, shared by themselves to all corners of North-East Syria. It is a stage gate process, the priority is to guard the border with Turkey and block TAF and its terrorists to gain more ground, first places were all Manbij front all the way to Ayn al Arab, this is a heck of long front and the SAA has already manned the area.
Then is comes the key towns of Qamishili, Hasaka, Manbij and Raqqa, the first two are totally under the control of the Syrian Gov already, Manbij city will be tomorrow (US is packing up and retreating but still present and asked 12 hrs to leave) and Raqqa maybe tomorrow or in 48 hrs.
The SAA has advanced toward Tabqa Dam, Tabqa city and Tabqa airbse, but the convoy hit a ISIS mine and a vehicle was lost, that made the SAA to wait for de mining vehicles to proceed, that is why Raqqa may be delayed, but tomorrow we should hear about Tabqa sites.
The comes oil/gas fields, few of them have US forces (such Omar fields), and many others do not have, RuAF and SAAF are prepping choppers to lift SAA forces to man up all sites for protection, that will most likely be in coordination with SDF.
Pics tonight showed SAA with lots of trucks with bridges, clearly to cross the Euphrates in many locations, worth noting that one bridge stands in the Euphrates, near Tishrim dam and the SAA used it to cross to Ayn al Arab late afternoon today.
From all locations, it seems the US will keep al Tanf, that is, as we know, ISIS training camp and closer to Jordan, thus apartheid regime, not sure whether the US will stay there or just leave for last, they say they have 30 days to leave Syria, bet they will be out in less than a week, but al Tanf is a question mark.
We will never know what Russia, Iran, Turkey and Syria agreed in the last meeting mid September, we only know that the events that followed paved the way for this deal with the SDF, I do not think the SDF will break it since its position is very week and given the massive support to the Syrian Gov in Hasaka and Qamishili, that the Syrian kurds may risk a revolt if they go back on the deal, the fact is the SDF could not defend much without air support, their losses, hidden from public has been massive in the past 4 days, as the turkish terrorists as well, many hundreds in both sides, the Rojava dream is over and Israel is the biggest loser of all.
Putin is in Saudi Barbaria, many things will be discussed, KSA is the nbr 1 funder of SDC and that will stop, among other things. Putin is doing a masterful strike all over the ME, just incredible.
One last thing is, the EU did not participate in anything related to the deal in progress in Syria, it tells a lot about the current situation of NATO and affairs in eastern Europe.”
At roughly 11:30 local time, SAA troops with armored vehicles including tanks were observed, eyes on, entering the city of Manbij. Eyes on says some local government officials and citizens welcomed the SAA troops. No reports of fighting between SAA and local SDF troops, reports are in general the greetings are fraternal. Eyes on say there seems to be no impending assault on Manbij by Turk units. Eyes on says there has been scattered gunfire, light weapons only, but eyes on does not know exactly where or why.
Eyes on from another area say French troops are abandoning their positions and fleeing east, away from SAA and Kurd forces. Information is not confirmed by additional reports.
Auslander
Rojava will never be !
But a Kurdish province with a great degree of autonomy, yes !
“The deal is not yet public, what is known as non negotiable by the Syrian Gov are :
1) No armed militia allowed, only SAA and regular police, meaning either part of SDF will be integrated to SAA or disarmed.
2) Syrian State Institution will run all things related to the State, back as before, unit toward the Central Gov.
3) Kurds had some autonomy before in villages and so forth, this will continue.
4) All Oil & gas State business is back to the Syrian Gov.
The rest is for us to guess, but soon we will know more about it. I am sure it won’t be easy ride, there will be some isolated resistance and skirmishes, this is an area that did not have the presence of the State for almost a decade, gang like mentality is present, this will take time, same as it is happening in Daraa at the moment.”
What about the SDF ?
“As mentioned above, part of SDF will be integrated to the SAA and part will be disarmed, no militia is allowed to be armed that is not linked to the SAA.
The above is so true that Liwa al Quds and the Tiger Forces are now part of the SAA, and they were not until very recently, many people were completely shocked about that.
BTW, the 25th SF Div (old Tiger Force) is heading north, which can only mean to face the turkish backed terrorists and TAF together.”
Is the US coordinating with Russia ?
“it seems there is an agreement between Russia and the US referring to Manbij and Ayn al Arab (Kobane), I say that because Russia and the US went on few patrols together early today north of Manbij. Besides, the US, that has a base in Ayn al Arab and Manbij accepted the deal for the SAA to come in. There are several sources saying that the US will favor Turkey blah blah, but this is BS, many fake news out there that are easily proved with facts and time.
Another sense of cooperation is again in Manbij, the SAA have manned defenses throughout all the Sajur river to counter the turkish backed terrorists if they attempt to attack, but the SAA could not enter Manbij city because the US was still there and packing things up, early in the Monday they will be gone, so all this has coordination and communication, of course the easy way for many folks is to say the US blocked the SAA blah blah, but again facts and time will prove there are coordination.
Few hours ago jets bombed twice turkish backed terrorists near the M4, and they were not US jets, so either it was friendly fire (which I doubt it) or is the new rule of the game, RuAF/SAAF saying basta. Again, this calls coordination with the US, there are dozens of US planes and choppers removing US personnel from all over the place right now, plus backing them up from the air in case of any threat, so the skies of Syria is busy as hell and requires incredible coordination not to have a close encounter.
… things are evolving very fast, one thing is clear, the US is coordinating with Russia and not the SAA, while SDF is now coordinating with the SAA, at least for the past few hours this has been the case, if things will change in the a day or two, I do not know. Both Hasaka and Qamishili saw an incredible festivity after the news was out, it indicates most of the population was in fact afraid the show their allegiance to, I hope things will go smooth but we would be naive to think that there won’t be bump in the roads, for instance the Asayish, kurdish police, is famous for brutality and murdering locals, I believe bad blood does not disappear fast, so there will be local pay backs in weeks ahead.”
Sputnik reporting FSA and SNA heading to Manbij…..there may be trouble ahead……?
The fast-changing map of Syria – Manbij & Kobane editon !
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGxeyjzWwAItSiL.jpg
SAA’s expected moves in the next 96 hours:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGx1ISeXkAMwUNo.jpg
Quite a jubilant piece from correspondent TTG at Pat Lang’s blog. Whereas I think it is too early to be jubilant, I enjoy his jubilation .. He takes a lot of his information from Elijah Magnier, who may or may not be popular in our sphere here.
https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2019/10/jubilation-ttg.html
Officially unconfirmed but deemed reliable info. The agreement between Syrian Government and SDF as it stands now. Looks like Mother has been busy.
1/ The abolishment of the #SDF (Syrian Democratic Forces), with all the current Kurdish forces and military groups joining the 5th Corps (Assault Legion) under Russian control
3:12 AM – 14 Oct 2019
2/ A solid guarantee of full Kurdish rights in the new Syrian constitution with autonomy which will be agreed upon by Kurdish leadership & Syrian state.
3/ Joint coordinated effort by Syrian/Kurdish forces to remove Turkish presence in northern #Syria including #Afrin (Idleb doesn’t count)
4/ #Manbej & #Kobani were agreed upon for #SAA to enter quickly, whilst #Hasakeh has seen a wide scale deployment of Syrian troops, this will continue in #Qamishly and other joint areas
5/ With Syrian forces now on the border area with #Turkey it’s clear that this starts a new phase in the 8-year-long war where some sort of endgame is now taking shape – all border areas and administrational centres will be taken over by the Syrian government
6/ Within one month Kurdish leadership with start to take up some official roles within the current Syrian government to ease the transition period of N. #Syria until an new constitution/government is formed in the future
7/ #Tabqa in #Raqqa was also on the agreement, Syrian forces entered the city and took control of the military airbase earlier today
8/ #Russia had brokered a similar deal a few days ago, yet it was rejected by #Damascus who wanted more concessions from the #SDF.
9/ As per-agreement Syrian forces entered Ein Issa in N. #Raqqa today
10/ The agreement between #SDF and Syrian gov is yet to be fully completed, the finer details will be fleshed out over the next four days.
11/ For now all #ISIS prisoners remain under the control of the #Kurds
12/ The agreement thus far is effectively a military one, based on self-defense and mutual interest with a number of set aims. The governance/land delegation/isis prisoners part will follow later
Auslander
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Appreciate your post….re no 2….will wait and see if Kurds will have continuation of any historic rights or reduction……and how negotiations fit into the Astana process as surely all Syrians collectivelymust go through this now starting Geneva soonish not separate group negotiations or i dividual groups will feel peeved……. hhmm. Wonder if there were any subtle influences made upon Syrian Kurds by Russia through other Kurdish groups that have been supported.
https://syria.liveuamap.com/
The map is definitely starting to look more colorful up there in the North.
The Kurds seem to be stuck on stupid. Maybe they are simply driven by one overwhelming compulsion, to have their own state. And they are willing to partner with any devil to make it happen. It makes me wonder if they can ever be trusted. You never know. If they can be given a deal with some autonomy while still being a part of Syria, maybe they will finally see the light.
I wouldn’t get comfortable with any idea that the U.S. and its other allies are actually running away, abandoning their goals for domination. They are just repositioning and resupplying. In Saudi Arabia!
Well Craig, you will never truly know, what a police state means until you visit the kurdish populated areas. I have never seen anything like it. everybody is spying on everybody. You have to see it to believe it. The good part of it is, that they are doing it to themselves. Funny though they consider the Shia kurds their enemy too.
Y E S !
Here we have it straight from the MSM presstitutes’ own mouth; the (translated) excerpt below was published in Dagens Nyheter just a few hours ago:
Epic — or, as the Germans say: Klasse!
A small update from South Front
The situation in northern Syria is rapidly developing amid the ongoing Turkish military opeation and the implementation of the deal between the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and the Syrian Arab Army (SAA):
The US Defense Secretary announced that US troops will remain in the al-Tanf area and ‘elsewhere’, but not in northern Syria;
Syrian Arab Army (SAA) units continues entering into the SDF-controlled area;
Pro-Turkish forces continue developing Operation Peace Spring. They captured Iqsas, Ayn Arous, Badee’ and Jasim al-Ali, Darbasiyah and several other points;
Clashes in Tal Abyad and Ras al-Ayn are ongoing.
https://southfront.org/map-update-movement-of-syrian-army-within-sdf-held-area/
This from Moon and it tracks fairly well with Auslander’s information.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/10/syria-regains-its-northeastern-parts.html#more
He has a reasonable map and says the following:
As of this writing Syrian troops (red) have entered Manbij, Ain al Issa, Tabqa airbase near Raqqa and Tel Tamr. Turkish supported groups (green) hold Tell Abyad and Ras al-Ayn and the villages between those two cities. That area has an Arab majority population.
The Kurds wish to keep their ‘autonomous administration’ of northeast Syria. While talks are still ongoing I do not expect that the mostly Arab inhabitants of the whole area, nor the Syrian government will agree to that. There can not be a special status for any of Syria’s many ethnic or religious groups.
The Kurdish led Syrian Democratic Forces will be disbanded. Its soldiers will be integrated into the Syrian army. The Syrian government will also disband the ‘autonomous’ Kurdish administration. It will confiscate the weapons the U.S. has given to the Kurds. All this will take some time but it will, in the end, remove the Turkish concerns that the organized Syrian Kurdish groups could enter Turkey to fight on the side of their PKK separatist brethren.
The U.S. had more than 1,000 troops in northeast Syria. There were also several hundred French and British special forces and some 2,000 U.S. contractors. They, and a huge amount of equipment, are now moving out. They have nothing to fear from the Syrian forces. Syria is happy to see them leave. (Reports that the U.S.yesterday bombed Syrian troops are false.)
The strategic plan behind last weeks development must have come from Moscow. Russia has tried for some time to get Turkey into its camp. Russia, Iran and Syria allowed Turkey a limited invasion of Syria to scare the U.S. out. Russia largely supported the Turkish move but it will also set its limits.
Since last year Trump looked for a chance to move the U.S. troops out of Syria. The borg made that politically unfeasible. The Turkish (Russian) move gave him the excuse he needed.
It is possible that the whole arrangement was made for exactly that purpose.
“Since last year Trump looked for a chance to move the U.S. troops out of Syria. The borg made that politically unfeasible. The Turkish (Russian) move gave him the excuse he needed.”
This is pure nonsense, an attempt by zio-asset bernhard to spin the zionazi trump quisling in a positive light. Neither trump, nor his zionazi-gay owners have made any effort to cease their war on Syria voluntarily. They staged provocations incessantly, they increased sanctions and support for the zionazi terror proxies, they continuously ramped up the propaganda war. These are not acts by a regime intent on stopping a war, but those intent on continuing a war. Had it been politically feasible, trump would have done a Libya or a Yugoslavia. But he couldn’t get the public and political backing and Syria’s allies made sure trump knew the military option would be very costly.
The terrorist enablers are bagging it right now because if they don’t, they seriously risk a nato vs nato conflict. One that would surely be the death of nato as a viable military alliance. Trump and his likud owners have no choice, Turkey gave them no choice, either get out of the way or see off nato. It’s not about the pr bs of trump wanting out of the Mideast region, which is pure pr bs, he is actually increasing the u.s. presence in the wider region to increase the zionazi war against Iran, trump is being forced out, very much against his, and his masters’ wishes. The sods have been completely outmanuerved by those they looked upon as inferiors.
I am just amazed that such a low number of USA troops could hold such a large area and manipulate so much……I suppose the coalition airforces provided such cover……shame a no fly zone could not be implemented to shut them out. Perhaps the coalition planes did dispose of some daesh.
As wonderful as the news in Syria is (and it is!) how about pulling back from the situation a moment and considering that perhaps.. ..just maybe….……..the more crucial battle is not troop movements there………….but legal and political moves in DC.
Of course I would give Putin full credit for infinite patience and the most timely decisiveness. That’s been a given now, for a long, long time.
The wild card in the situation, or some (including yours truly) would say….The Joker……….in this hand of global strategic poker has been Trump.
Do you think he lost all his chips here……….because he’s committed to endless wars, The MIC …and Empire?
I don’t think that …at all.
I think he’s gaining his stash and has no intention or capability, or desire, mind you………….to push other sovereign nations acting constructively……….out of the game.
How to view the Anti-Turkey Twitter Bombs……….. of just a few days ago, then??
Bluster, bombast, bluff, misdirection…IMHO not to cripple or scare anyone THERE………but to outflank and rout the Impeachment Maniacs Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi etc…… by allowing. with a smile, now, exactly what he pretended he would “punish” Turkey for…a few days ago.
Dave at X-22 Report drives the worry warts and hand wringers nuts with his perpetual optimism, ….however it seems that his confidence in Orange Man (and friends in other parts of the world, mind you) even extends to Ukraine, just before the segment on Syria I jump right into, here:
https://youtu.be/3uTUNjwolY0?t=929
Things in their isolated selves rarely make very much sense. In this case the whole picture presented………. is starting to…….unless you’re an absolutely die-hard pessimist and Trump-hater………and ole Dave doesn’t quite seem as Pollyannaish as he did in 2017…2018……….and the first 3/4 of 2019…anymore.
https://youtu.be/3uTUNjwolY0
Fear Is Flushing The [DS] Out, The Only Way Forward, Expose, Transparency & Truth
And that fear is getting positively frantic back here….with MSM masturbational fantasies of Trump resigning any day now…………for “endangering our national security”. LOL
Episode 1994b
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A rising Anatolia has the AngloZionist Empire and its terrorist proxies on the run. But only from a 30 – 35 km zone along the Turkish-Syrian border (not much further south than the M4 highway, the main highway from Aleppo to Mosul) which Turkey is absolutely determined to get under its control.
It seems very unlikely, even though many media report otherwise (probably pure distraction?), that anything else is going on.
Well, from what I gather and know, the Kurds are and have been one of the three nations-cultures-religions who are the target of some major forces, for total obliteration-extermination, if it were possible. I am not sure what
the Kurds have really done historically to merit such an attitude against them, except presumably that the Arabs, Turks and Iranians have simply thought of them as inferior types, maybe because the Kurds do not seem to practice Islam as ferociously strictly against women as certain extremist forces among Iranians, Turks and Arabs, and therefore the Kurds are deemed to be some sort of “devil-worshippers”?? and heretics within Islam?
Everywhere from everyone significant in the region there does seem to be pressure on Kurds to just go away, die and go to hell and that way “solve the problem”. Again, I am puzzled, what is this all about.—And the Kurds may well reach out to Israel, well, because every other force in the region wants them to just go away and die.
The kurds were doing ISIS long before ISIS was even conceived by the israhelli/american and their errandboys in Jordan and the whorehouse of Saud. Their barbarity surpasses ISIS. They have done things, that not even the barbarian ISIS hasn’t done. What we are witnessing today with regards to the kurds and their sexy female pseudo communist guerilla fighters brought to you right in front of the world cameras to enjoy, is the legacy of the cursed Stalin. According to Carroll Quigley in his “Tragedy and Hope” it was Stalin, who paid and bought these errandboys to wreak havoc in pro western countries in the middle east, and they have been selling their souls to the highest bidder ever since being it the soviet, the british, the French, the americans and now the israhellis.
When it comes to their heritage, they have always been PERSIANS, that is until the israhelli began to create for them a manufactured Kurdish identity separate from their history. Kurds are Iranians culturally and historically. They themselves used to be proud of their Persian heritage. You can find videos of the shah on youtube speaking about helping kurds in arab parts of the middle east as his duty towards Persians! The fact, that the shah was through and through anti arab was just the icing on the cake! But one can not ignore the fact. Looking at the map of the middle east clearly shows how they have been pulling an “israhell” on us. The kurds are the locusts of the muslim world. They have and are slowly but surely spreading into strategic areas within Iran and are creating conflict with the local people, who know the endgame of the kurds.
Whatever comes their way is only thanks to their corruption and treason. The alternative is nation after nation on fire! And when it comes to devil worship, it is the truth. They used to be called Yazidi. Being devil worshippers they consider the 6. Caliph Yazid the most evil man to ever walk the earth and therefor the devil incarnate ergo the name.! But since no sane person will choose to help devil worshippers the western pr machine chose the name Izadi, which could translated as “Godly”! Nothing new under the sun after all!
Absolute bollocks. Don’t let your Western ideological credentials carry you away. To cheer you up, Stalin was too busy — continuously devouring infants en masse didn’t allow him to stir up any trouble in the Middle East.
If not ideological, then geopolitical and strategical, not to mention logical. It would have been amateur hour for someone of his stature not to try to use local errandboys to do his bidding, It is not as if the communist lack trying in country after country! Not to mention the occupation of northern Iran by the russians and their everlasting dream of reaching warm waters. With regards to devouring infants, maybe not, but he did kill a lot of people!
“The kurds were doing ISIS long before ISIS was even conceived by the israhelli/american and their errandboys in Jordan and the whorehouse of Saud. Their barbarity surpasses ISIS. They have done things, that not even the barbarian ISIS hasn’t done.”
Provide some documentation for this, will you? Otherwise, when anyone makes such accusations unsupported, they amount to a “call to exterminate the Kurdish vermin” which in turn is the very thing that gives Kurds no choice but to seek full-fledged independent statehood.
Needless to say, there is a ”stunning revelation” for Turks and Kurds alike here:
Being a US/Israel ”ally” is putting oneself at the mercy of narcissistic criminals happily treating you (quite correctly, I’d say) like dirt at the drop of a hat.
Teaming up with Russia, Syria, and Iran brings instant benefits, even though it also brings a lot of violent Zionazi noise. Nothing to be afraid of.
Psheks, Balts, Ukronazis, and hard-core Liberals are fact resistant. No need to waste any time on them.
What incredible developments – my head is spinning.
It was also inevitable. No way could Turkey stand by and watch the US build up the Kurd’s in NE Syria. Russia is working a brilliant balancing act – using US contradictions in the region to push the US out and reconstitute Syria that is on the road to re-integrating eastern Syria.
We are watching an immensely important geopolitical turn. Turkey is continuing its turn East.
Here is SyrianGirl. I do so like her – she debunks the 3 main lies being told in the West and then, there is a sting in the tail :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0EwGEZKWvA&feature=youtu.be
@amarynth
Thank you very much for the link you provided.
She (SyrianGirl) drives a stake right through the stinking rot of the entire Western MSM — and her concluding statements are particularly incisive!
Eyes on reports there were over 5,000 ‘coalition’ troops, both serving and ‘contractors’, in general area of Manbij. Eyes on says US, ‘contractors’ from various nations, Brits, French and a few Poles and Dutch were there as of two days ago. Unconfirmed reports are all are gone, and the legions of ‘media’ who have been ‘covering the war’ from the area proceeded to ‘Unbutt’ the AO yesterday, running east with the French, and many are reporting breathlessly, from various safe havens in Turkey and Irak, about the ‘disaster’ this agreement with President Assad and President Erdogan is, with ‘thousands’ of ISIS ‘supporters and fighters’ escaping from ‘a camp’ and ‘Europe should be worried’. My thoughts are if any did ‘escape’ EU is about to reap what they have sowed.
15:02 Moskau time: Now confirmed, at least one sprawling US base near to Manbij is abandoned, completely empty of ‘coalition’ troops, contractors and hangers on. Moskau news media are in the base at this moment, filming, and have been for quite some time. Initial reports are the base was hurriedly abandoned and already some intact equipment and technical items have been found.
Auslander
The dandy good old White Helmets — where are they now? Gone off en masse to that human rights ”observatory” in London? Arguably, the guy who was tasked to staff it deserves some like-minded company, methinks.
Where are they now? Being transferred east, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Central Asia ways. No doubt that israeli actor is already working up a new academy award winning propa… er, documentary about their next assignment.
the Kurds are playing Israeli script since the end of the Iran-Iraq war: divide those two secular countries & carve out an independent Kurdistan. but the Kurds did not care that, in the process, they were destroying two secular & arch-enemies of Israel: all the Kurdish-controlled areas are a free-moving zone for Mossad & Israeli drones.
Modern nationalism has become one of the bloodthirstiest idols in human historical behavior, a pretext for endless rages and killings as well as less drastic forms of strife, bullying and oppression.
The Arabs, Iranians and Turks through their respective governments have a record of putting lots and lots and lots of all sorts of pressure for the Kurds to “simply disappear” as nation-culture-religion. Recall, not so long ago in Turkey the Kurds were called “mountain Turks” and were “encouraged” to at least just abandon culture and own identity, in the least, if not just go and die. And similar attitudes seem to have prevailed against them everywhere. I would not be sure, exactly why, historically, what they ever did to bring on such negative attitudes, except that perhaps they were simply viewed as inferior, not properly practicing Islam—accused of “witchcraft” and “devil-worship”—and just their habits and language found to be ugly, so that they were deemed to be simply in the way of the “better and superior people” in the region. Many Kurds may simply not agree to just go away and die. So very understandably they want some security and prosperity and think that the only way they might obtain that is by having an independent state under their own control,—insofar as any state today can be “independent” anyway.
Racism, both tribal type and genetic bloodline type, and nationalism get possessed by sin and error
of idolatry and become pretexts for human sacrifices, as the idol typically demands human sacrifice, and thus leading humans to slaughter, as this practice of idolatry makes every tribe, race, nation seek to wipe out all the others and be the only one existing on the planet. Any religion as an idol seeks the same, to wipe out all other religions and faiths and be the only one left existing on the planet. In the meantime, huge amounts of rage energies and fear energies are generated for the nourishment of demonic predatory emotional organisms.—When certain devout Muslim Iranians wanted to get rid of the so-called “American satan” influence in their society, they could choose to apply energies of the kingdom of heaven—creativity in liberty and in ultimate peace-love-harmony within self and among others,—or they could choose to conjure up a bigger and stronger satan to kick out the other one. Tragically, they chose,—I think with help of certain elements in the West given Khomeini’s link to France where some very ferocious occult forces operate,—
to conjure the bigger and stronger satan, an emotional organism based on boundless righteous rage and endless holy warfare. This Thing which they conjured and which still grips them, simply showed more of its true face in the takfiri-Daesh-ISIS practices. It simply uses certain select parts of Islamic pronouncements as pretexts for its fundamental objective to generate maximal rage energies and fear energies in an orgy of endless ferocity and violence, killings and more killings. Evil but stupid wizards might think they can use it and control it to other ends, but the Thing really has its own agenda, that the wizards’ turn will also come to be obliterated. So there we have the tangle of predatory evil.
Besides the Kurds, the other two eminent nations-cultures-religions facing strong forces who would want them to simply disappear without any memory or trace are the Ukrainians, and the Jews, Hebrews, Israelites, Turkish Khazarians and their practice of Old Testament religion.—Warfare on account of idol-worship goes on endlessly. Only the choice of the functioning by energies of the kingdom of heaven as in the full record of Lord Jesus the Anointed, by human will-power, would be able to exorcise, get rid of, the influence of all the idols. But how exactly this is to be done remains very uncertain given how many humans to what extent are zombies of the Thing.
@Anon (the one who weeps for the Kurds, the Jews and the Galitsian? Ukrainians.)
I think your tears are pretty selective: a short list of faltering Obomba / Rothschild projects.
What?! No tears for the one Obomba / Rothschild project that was really successful: the destroyed lives of 6 million Libyans, until recently a people with the highest _general_ standard of living in Africa. Nor for the half million blameless Syrian civilians slaughtered by NATZO and their ISIS proxies. Not even one tear for the hundreds of thousands of backward Muslim youth recruited by NATZO to use as cannon fodder in this Zio Capitalist resource war?
“Modern nationalism has become one of the bloodthirstiest idols in human historical behavior, a pretext for endless rages and killings as well as less drastic forms of strife, bullying and oppression.”
So you selectively also choose. The above statement covers hundreds and hundreds of examples with a list as long as a 10000 page book. Throughout history. It is impossible to mention everything, so omission does not mean disregard and non-recognition. What happened in Libya or Syria are just other examples of the emotional organism, the Thing, acting out its nature, to generate maximal rage energies and fear energies as ends in themselves,—all the NATZO forces also awaiting their eventual turn for obliteration.
But 90%+ nations, groups, ethnicities,—they all here and there did bad things, but no one actually states that they therefore should not exist at all. The three “groups of people” to use the broadest generic term are the ones whose very existence is not desired by major forces who are in superior positions due most often
to those forces’ own ferocity and rapacity which happened to be luckier and more successful.
The overall operative system of idolatry is what underlies and causes everything. Humans just want to be like stupid gladiators in an arena fighting to entertain demons? Fine.
Kurds, Ukros, and ”Jews, Hebrews, Israelites, Turkish Khazarians”. You seem to be, well, disappointed while the rest of us here rejoice as Anglo-Zionism is collapsing. I usually don’t care too much about people posting anonymously, but in your case it’s a hint that you’re embarrassed. If anything, it does look stupid and reactionary to sob for peoples who prefer to be on the losing side of history. Ukros don’t even qualify as a real nationality.
Again: What’s happening is truly epic. Assad and Putin — lots of respect to you both from Sweden!
“Ukros don’t even qualify as a real nationality.”—There you go! Isn’t that an attitude calling for the “extermination of those Ukrainian vermin”, far less than human, far worse than any animals.—Facing that, Ukrainians have little choice but to seek full-fledged independent statehood, as much as any state can nowadays be “independent”.
I perfectly understand that the commentary here should relate first and foremost to Aram Mirzaei’s excellent blog post which is about Syria, not Ukraine — I hope the moderator/s will kindly bear with me responding.
The Ukros take care just splendidly of their own demographics, so to speak. The joke of ’Ukraine’ is fast depopulating on its own accord. Strictly speaking, for all practical intents and purposes, what passes for ”Ukrainians” is in reality Galicians. For your information, Galicia is the deep, dark, horrid, rotten sewer of the Banderite Ukronazis. In their case, I think retribution seems very justified. Ukronazis do have a, shall we say, ’weak spot’ when it comes to advocating genocide.
So look at the crimes the Germans under Hitler’s regime did or tried to do, look at how the Russians killed millions often of their own kind under Stalin’s regime or even first erupting this way under Ivan the Terrible,
or look at the depredations of the Spaniards in the Western Hemisphere starting in the 1500’s, then the depredations of colonialistic Britain and France,—just to mention a few examples. Yet nobody has seriously thought or advocated that German identity-language-culture should be obliterated and should not exist at all,
or that Russian-Muscovite identity-language-culture should not exist at all, or Spanish identity-language-culture should not exist and so forth. And when was the last time historically that Ukrainians invaded anyone, conquered anyone,—or the same thing can be asked regarding the Kurds,—yet there is the call that Ukrainians or Kurds should better not exist at all. This is a very fundamental difference in attitude. As for Hebrews-Khazarian-Turks practicing the Old Testament religion, they also face such hostility in some quarters as to call for their total obliteration, whereas nobody calls for outright extermination of Arabs or the Arabic subset of Palestinians, as far as known. It looks like where these three “special groups” are involved, their main offense is that they exist at all and that they simply occupy space which assorted “better and superior people” would like to occupy.—All this is just a peculiar phenomenon which any outside and unprejudiced observer would see.
The only correct thing you wrote Ano was: “demonic predatory emotional organisms”! It is amazing in how many ways one can go wrong. For your information the wahhabi are the bastard sons of Ibn Taymiyyah the jew. You seem to be confusing talmudic occult practices with the rest of us. Anybody with any rudimentary knowledge of the Abrahamic religions will tell you, that you are having it backwards. It is true though, there is a battle between the good and the evil and in this battle your victims are the real perpetrators. Only a glance at the jewish history is more than enough to convince any reasonable and logical person. whether you like it or not Imam Khomeini, Imam Khamenei and Nasrullah have changed the world and brought dignity to believers of many races and the hope, that they can free themselves from the jewish capitalist usurper order through devotion and trust in the word of God and the promise of a better world. We have the word of God, that we will be victorious and looking at our enemies, we are safe in our conviction, that we are on the part of the righteous. If that is our crime, we are proudly guilty. Any person joining forces with your kind of a victim is the rapist shouting rape! Good like to you though fighting your own demons!
“For your information the wahhabi are the bastard sons of Ibn Taymiyyah the jew. You seem to be confusing talmudic occult practices with the rest of us.”
Please provide documentation that this Ibn Taymiyyah was actually practicing Judaism. Now one tenet of the Wahhabis is supposed to be their ferocious opposition and killing of anyone practicing what they call “idolatry” which does fall in line with a fundamental Jewish religious viewpoint, dating at least from the record about Moses. That there be no other gods but the one God,—though original Hebrew word often designating God is “Elohim” being plural not singular. So Judaism has problems with the Christian concept about the Holy Trinity, and so do all branches of Islam. And “occult practices” are anything which does not meet official approval of the powers that be, or anything the powers that be do not want to bring into the open. This “Imam” Khomeini, from what I understand, did have his supporters from elements in the West as an extreme radical proxy against any movement deemed “communist” like the Iranian Tudeh Party, which the old shah regime could not get rid of. Back then the “communist” USSR was still a force to reckon with. So under Khomeini all the assorted “secular leftists” got swept out of Iran. And a movement which one might call “ISIS minor” or “ISIS light” took over.