At least War Criminals Bush and Blair went to the effort of faking evidence as cause for the attack on Iraq. Nowadays we don’t even need to bother with faking evidence.
“Despite being elected on an anti-interventionist program, Donald Trump has now surrounded himself with foreign policy hawks and Iraq war apologists. The new National Security Adviser, John Bolton, is just one of the wild bunch.
Back in his pre-election days Trump was a vocal critic of American military adventurism. Notably in 2013, he outright said on Twitter “All former Bush administration officials should have zero standing on Syria. Iraq was a waste of blood & treasure.”
Fast forward to 2018, and Trump is picking the likes of John Bolton – an Iraq war apologist and an advocate for starting more wars of the kind – to his team of advisers. While Bolton is known as extremely hawkish even by neocon standards, he is not the sole example in the cabinet. Both Trump’s security and foreign policy teams are now full of people who backed the Iraq disaster and are now in favor of military action against Iran and North Korea.”
When is this unhinged clown going to comb his hair–as a modest step towards minimal sanity? The West is in the hands of wretched criminals living in “cloud cuckoo land.”? C’est la folie furieuse!
Regarding the hair, glad someone else mentions this.
It is just weird that this man can’t manage to comb his hair or get a decent haircut that doesn’t leave “cliffs.” Dopes he cut it himself? Boris looks like an unkempt and uncared-for toddler who just woke up from a nap, thumb in mouth as he tearfully searches for his blankie.
Maybe hairdo is superficial, but to me it bespeaks a basic lack of respect and kind of a passive aggressive “So what are you gonna do about it” attitude. It’s like he is challenging the world to take him seriously, like: I bet you can’t take me seriously with this hair do. But the public and press seem to studiously avoid calling him out on his ludicrously provocative yellow carpet.
If it’s open season on Trump’s coiffeur, why not on the buffoon and clown Boris’s? At least the former is trying
If it were not so serious in its potential consequences, I would continue to lmao. Here is what I find most interesting:
According to the first statements by Russia, it was told that the agent “A-234” (allegedly belonging to a new class of nerve poisons, “Novichok”) were used. Well, “A” being the first letter of the alphabet, Russia was told that “1234” was used. How’s that about showing the middle finger?
If the agent were a military grade nerve gas ten-fold more potent than VX, the Skripals would have died within minutes on the spot. British officials state that the Skripals survived and are recovering in hospital. This either means that “A-234” is an impotent agent, was administered in such faint quantities that I seriously doubt samples of the agent could ever be collected, or that the claim is a hoax all along.
As with previous crimes against Russian citizens in the UK, the timing is utmost embarrassing for Russia and most useful for the UK and its allies. If the orders did come from Russia, I would bet that the commanders were part of political fringe groups striving for power despite abysmally weak internal support. With the current case the UK is rallying political support by the EU. PM May desperately needs this support now as the Brexit will be extremely difficult to swallow for the London elite.
Finally, if a poison was administered to the Skripals, it is first and foremost a crime against them and obviously not an attack against the UK. This hysterical running around is pure propaganda because it is not warranted in any way by the crime itself. Moreover, it seems that Russian citizens living in the lions’ den risk their lives.
The “died instantly” argument is a major loser and I hope everyone, including VV, will drop it.
It all depends on the delivery. We have no idea and no way to estimate how efficiently the attacker delivered whatever dose s/he had, so we have no idea what potency was actually in play.
I did not claim instant death. Instead I wrote that death would have occurred within minutes if the administered poison were as potent or more than VX and received in sufficient quantity. I have no clue if the claim that agents of the “Novickok” class are much more potent than VX is true. Given that their mode of a action and structure seems similar to VX, which is an organophosphorous nerve agent, I would assume at least equal toxicity. This would mean that receiving tens of milligrams of the substance kills the victim by asphyxiation due to incessant contraction of all its muscles.
People survive without harm about three minutes without breathing if they manage to keep relaxed. Thereafter, permanent damage of the nervous system sets in and kills the person within 10 to 15 minutes. Under heavy workout (i.e. in a fight or epileptic shock), these periods reduce to about 1 minute and 3 minutes. Noticing the first symptoms of VX or “Novichok” poisoning leaves about 30 seconds to self-administer an antidote and no more than 2 to 3 minutes for life-support by someone else. If the heart stopped beating, reanimation will most likely fail. Moreover, anybody touching the victim runs a high risk of poisoning him/herself. In particular, mouth-to-mouth ventilation will kill the aid if the poison was administered via the face of the victim.
Surviving a VX attack requires (i) to be prepared for it, (ii) to react instantly by applying the corresponding antidote, (iii) to avoid the uptake of more poison, and (iv) to get medical help really quickly. I assume that poisoning with “Novickok” would require the same.
The intelligent reader will be able to come up with dozens of questions begging for answers. I am not going to write these down here because I do not want to disclose hypotheses and related questions in public. I am certain that the competent authorities in the UK, Russia and elsewhere are perfectly capable of this. Suffice to say that the poisoning – if it was one – could be a botched assassination of the Skripals or a botched delivery of poison from the UK to Russia via the Skripals.
I’m no expert, but I’m sceptical that it was even a ‘nerve agent’.
Somewhere I read a description on the internet that said a nerve agent kills by interfering with the central nervous system. Thus the name. What kills the victim is that the mind loses control of key muscles like the diaphram, and thus the victim suffocates.
The point they made was if a victim survives that first assault, then they usually recover little long-term effects. They kept breathing through the episode. And the ‘nerve agent’ does not attack the body’s organs like a bio-toxin would. Thus, if they don’t stop breathing and die, they survive otherwise unharmed.
In court papers stripping the Skirpals of any privacy rights, the UK government claimed that both are under sedation and can not talk and classified as ‘critical but stable’ condition. This weeks after the attack . A nerve agent would not have that effect. To me it sounded like they were both drugged into unconsciousness
The UK is operating under the realization, as stated by their own military leaders, that they would not last in a war with Russia one day. They would be defeated, as their general stated, in “an afternoon”.
For vile, historical Russophobes like the British, this must be terrifying.
Thus, as the pansies that they are, they fabricated a False Flag to dirty Putin for the election (which backfired enormously among Russian voters) and have begun the truly serious work of trying to destroy the World Cup for Russia.
The False Flag works, as we can see, as a counterweight to Brexit, which PM May and the Establishment fiercely do no want to complete. Thus, they are panicking the populace to think they need to stay in the EU in order to cope with the “menace” of the Russians.
Cui Bono?
PM May, UK anti-Brexit forces, Defense Budgets, EU, NATO, the Hegemon for starters.
Even the Russian natural gas-hungry Germans couldn’t resist joining the infantile “Highly Likely” accusation brigade.
So, it is Highly Likely that the False Flag is truly one of the best launched. It immediately worked (in obvious effort) to bring UK back to EU. The British sheeple have been scared by the evil Bear’s dastardly doings in Salisbury.
What we see is Propaganda and False Flag mastery. We all know it is Lies, but we stand in awe of the presentation and programmed entertainment the scum of the West have produced. What Vaudeville! Boris Johnson, Mrs. May, Corbin’s Russian photoshopped hat, nerve gas that is here, no there, over yonder, in the car, aerosol, powder, liquidated by rain, fast-acting, but slow.
It is awesome, the weeks-long performance of the 10 Downing Playhouse Ensemble.
Yet, amidst this five-star streaming geopolitical perfidy, we all know it is a fabrication, not real, not even serious. It is a mockery of everyone’s intelligence.
Only the disgusting nation of UK could have generated such a stench, such swill.
“Only the disgusting nation of UK could have generated such a stench, such swill.”
Nah, look at israel and the usa, this govno is their main source of sustenance. The israelis based their country’s existence successfully on illusion, theater and image. And successfully imposed this propaganda throughout the west. The usa is also kept enthralled on a daily basis. Media such as fox and the conservative talk radio do a “Boris johnson” all day long and pindos eat it up and beg for more.
From what little reporting I’ve seen on this, people in the uk and europe are buying this zionazi circus act a lot less than pindos bought into the “Iraq wmd” and “Russian hackers” bs. Hence the wall to wall hysterical propaganda in zionazi-gay media and from zionazi quisling regime tools.
The zionazis have not been able to instill the sort of “Hitler youth” fanaticm they created in israel among their colonies, but they did zombiefy the bulk of the populations enough, now, that they can do pretty much whatever they want and the colonial’s won’t counter them in any effective way. What happened in the uk, has been happening since the 70s (thatcher regime), is they have been brought down to the very low standards of americans. That may and johnson, and the brit versions of the zionazi-gay media are not being opposed in any massive way indicates the zionazi endeavor to bring britain down to the u.s. level of zombiefication has been successful.
Yes, Putin says it all. Ostensibly a military nerve agent was used, and the victims miraculously survive, and all this was done right before the presidential elections in Russia and the upcoming World Cup. What is shocking is that those who perpetrated this false flag attack actually expect people to accept this propaganda nonsense.
What are we witnessing with the Sripkal incident? Is this a psychological warfare operation? Is it –how shall I put it– class warriors “going nuclear” by going nuclear?
Thanks! Nothing like a BoJoke video clip to lighten up a day.
The part about chemicals “going to the United States, or even America” was priceless.
The NATO spokesperson should have spent more time studying his lines. He looked like the understudy in a high school play who only signed up to be close to a particular girl but now is on stage and having to look to the wings for hints as to what to say next.
I must admit, I find some of the comments posted on The Saker’s website somewhat offensive, but don’t worry, I am not offended in the slightest. I am English, and some of the things posted are true. But there is no way, us British are going to attack Russia. For one thing, we wouldn’t last an afternoon.
The Russians are our Friends.
So I try an challenge some of the things written in The British Press, but although British, I find myself almost completely banned. So I posted this on Craig Murray’s blog, and so far it hasn’t been deleted, though I did have to edit my first submission, before it appeared for a few moments
How long now before we discover that closeted Boris (he hides it but his sister outed him as a kibbutzim Jew) is a pedophile (He looks like Saviles’s evil cousin) and barren Teresa Mayhem loves ‘pizza’?
At least War Criminals Bush and Blair went to the effort of faking evidence as cause for the attack on Iraq. Nowadays we don’t even need to bother with faking evidence.
Sorry, you bought the lies. They did not have any evidence, ever. Just theatrical lies. Just like 9/11.
After the upcoming war, May, Bozo Boris and Blair must be put on trial, preferably before a Russian court and hanged a la NUREMBURG.
Haley’s face at 5:12 – 5:15 reminds me of Pelosi during the State of the Union. What a grotesque joke she is on us sitting in that seat.
That chain around her neck looks like something designed for a leash.
Mwada…it’s a Zionist leash. Very fashionable in the West.
Really Mwada! you must be more attentive to the latest Western fashions.
Do keep up. :-)
Well, speaking of drowning in lies:
Remember when Trump was anti-Iraq War? Bolton hire just tip of iceberg in policy U-turn
https://www.rt.com/news/422144-hawks-dominate-trump-administration-bolton/
“Despite being elected on an anti-interventionist program, Donald Trump has now surrounded himself with foreign policy hawks and Iraq war apologists. The new National Security Adviser, John Bolton, is just one of the wild bunch.
Back in his pre-election days Trump was a vocal critic of American military adventurism. Notably in 2013, he outright said on Twitter “All former Bush administration officials should have zero standing on Syria. Iraq was a waste of blood & treasure.”
Fast forward to 2018, and Trump is picking the likes of John Bolton – an Iraq war apologist and an advocate for starting more wars of the kind – to his team of advisers. While Bolton is known as extremely hawkish even by neocon standards, he is not the sole example in the cabinet. Both Trump’s security and foreign policy teams are now full of people who backed the Iraq disaster and are now in favor of military action against Iran and North Korea.”
When is this unhinged clown going to comb his hair–as a modest step towards minimal sanity? The West is in the hands of wretched criminals living in “cloud cuckoo land.”? C’est la folie furieuse!
Regarding the hair, glad someone else mentions this.
It is just weird that this man can’t manage to comb his hair or get a decent haircut that doesn’t leave “cliffs.” Dopes he cut it himself? Boris looks like an unkempt and uncared-for toddler who just woke up from a nap, thumb in mouth as he tearfully searches for his blankie.
Maybe hairdo is superficial, but to me it bespeaks a basic lack of respect and kind of a passive aggressive “So what are you gonna do about it” attitude. It’s like he is challenging the world to take him seriously, like: I bet you can’t take me seriously with this hair do. But the public and press seem to studiously avoid calling him out on his ludicrously provocative yellow carpet.
If it’s open season on Trump’s coiffeur, why not on the buffoon and clown Boris’s? At least the former is trying
Katherine
I do realise that our English politicians are a complete embarrassment, and some of us English people actually voted for them.
Sorry about that.
This is an urgent message from normal / ordinary people in England to Russian обычный обычный
“Be My Friend”
Будь моим другом
“Status Quo-Forty-Five Hundred Times/Rain (Live Hammersmith Apollo 15/03/2013)”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsoiOLVIA3M
Tony & Wife xx
“We Need Two Rocket to Deal With Theresa May” – Zhirinovsky Has Great Plan for UK’s PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsdXW7D50eA
If it were not so serious in its potential consequences, I would continue to lmao. Here is what I find most interesting:
According to the first statements by Russia, it was told that the agent “A-234” (allegedly belonging to a new class of nerve poisons, “Novichok”) were used. Well, “A” being the first letter of the alphabet, Russia was told that “1234” was used. How’s that about showing the middle finger?
If the agent were a military grade nerve gas ten-fold more potent than VX, the Skripals would have died within minutes on the spot. British officials state that the Skripals survived and are recovering in hospital. This either means that “A-234” is an impotent agent, was administered in such faint quantities that I seriously doubt samples of the agent could ever be collected, or that the claim is a hoax all along.
As with previous crimes against Russian citizens in the UK, the timing is utmost embarrassing for Russia and most useful for the UK and its allies. If the orders did come from Russia, I would bet that the commanders were part of political fringe groups striving for power despite abysmally weak internal support. With the current case the UK is rallying political support by the EU. PM May desperately needs this support now as the Brexit will be extremely difficult to swallow for the London elite.
Finally, if a poison was administered to the Skripals, it is first and foremost a crime against them and obviously not an attack against the UK. This hysterical running around is pure propaganda because it is not warranted in any way by the crime itself. Moreover, it seems that Russian citizens living in the lions’ den risk their lives.
The “died instantly” argument is a major loser and I hope everyone, including VV, will drop it.
It all depends on the delivery. We have no idea and no way to estimate how efficiently the attacker delivered whatever dose s/he had, so we have no idea what potency was actually in play.
I did not claim instant death. Instead I wrote that death would have occurred within minutes if the administered poison were as potent or more than VX and received in sufficient quantity. I have no clue if the claim that agents of the “Novickok” class are much more potent than VX is true. Given that their mode of a action and structure seems similar to VX, which is an organophosphorous nerve agent, I would assume at least equal toxicity. This would mean that receiving tens of milligrams of the substance kills the victim by asphyxiation due to incessant contraction of all its muscles.
People survive without harm about three minutes without breathing if they manage to keep relaxed. Thereafter, permanent damage of the nervous system sets in and kills the person within 10 to 15 minutes. Under heavy workout (i.e. in a fight or epileptic shock), these periods reduce to about 1 minute and 3 minutes. Noticing the first symptoms of VX or “Novichok” poisoning leaves about 30 seconds to self-administer an antidote and no more than 2 to 3 minutes for life-support by someone else. If the heart stopped beating, reanimation will most likely fail. Moreover, anybody touching the victim runs a high risk of poisoning him/herself. In particular, mouth-to-mouth ventilation will kill the aid if the poison was administered via the face of the victim.
Surviving a VX attack requires (i) to be prepared for it, (ii) to react instantly by applying the corresponding antidote, (iii) to avoid the uptake of more poison, and (iv) to get medical help really quickly. I assume that poisoning with “Novickok” would require the same.
The intelligent reader will be able to come up with dozens of questions begging for answers. I am not going to write these down here because I do not want to disclose hypotheses and related questions in public. I am certain that the competent authorities in the UK, Russia and elsewhere are perfectly capable of this. Suffice to say that the poisoning – if it was one – could be a botched assassination of the Skripals or a botched delivery of poison from the UK to Russia via the Skripals.
I’m no expert, but I’m sceptical that it was even a ‘nerve agent’.
Somewhere I read a description on the internet that said a nerve agent kills by interfering with the central nervous system. Thus the name. What kills the victim is that the mind loses control of key muscles like the diaphram, and thus the victim suffocates.
The point they made was if a victim survives that first assault, then they usually recover little long-term effects. They kept breathing through the episode. And the ‘nerve agent’ does not attack the body’s organs like a bio-toxin would. Thus, if they don’t stop breathing and die, they survive otherwise unharmed.
In court papers stripping the Skirpals of any privacy rights, the UK government claimed that both are under sedation and can not talk and classified as ‘critical but stable’ condition. This weeks after the attack . A nerve agent would not have that effect. To me it sounded like they were both drugged into unconsciousness
The UK is operating under the realization, as stated by their own military leaders, that they would not last in a war with Russia one day. They would be defeated, as their general stated, in “an afternoon”.
For vile, historical Russophobes like the British, this must be terrifying.
Thus, as the pansies that they are, they fabricated a False Flag to dirty Putin for the election (which backfired enormously among Russian voters) and have begun the truly serious work of trying to destroy the World Cup for Russia.
The False Flag works, as we can see, as a counterweight to Brexit, which PM May and the Establishment fiercely do no want to complete. Thus, they are panicking the populace to think they need to stay in the EU in order to cope with the “menace” of the Russians.
Cui Bono?
PM May, UK anti-Brexit forces, Defense Budgets, EU, NATO, the Hegemon for starters.
Even the Russian natural gas-hungry Germans couldn’t resist joining the infantile “Highly Likely” accusation brigade.
So, it is Highly Likely that the False Flag is truly one of the best launched. It immediately worked (in obvious effort) to bring UK back to EU. The British sheeple have been scared by the evil Bear’s dastardly doings in Salisbury.
What we see is Propaganda and False Flag mastery. We all know it is Lies, but we stand in awe of the presentation and programmed entertainment the scum of the West have produced. What Vaudeville! Boris Johnson, Mrs. May, Corbin’s Russian photoshopped hat, nerve gas that is here, no there, over yonder, in the car, aerosol, powder, liquidated by rain, fast-acting, but slow.
It is awesome, the weeks-long performance of the 10 Downing Playhouse Ensemble.
Yet, amidst this five-star streaming geopolitical perfidy, we all know it is a fabrication, not real, not even serious. It is a mockery of everyone’s intelligence.
Only the disgusting nation of UK could have generated such a stench, such swill.
“Only the disgusting nation of UK could have generated such a stench, such swill.”
Nah, look at israel and the usa, this govno is their main source of sustenance. The israelis based their country’s existence successfully on illusion, theater and image. And successfully imposed this propaganda throughout the west. The usa is also kept enthralled on a daily basis. Media such as fox and the conservative talk radio do a “Boris johnson” all day long and pindos eat it up and beg for more.
From what little reporting I’ve seen on this, people in the uk and europe are buying this zionazi circus act a lot less than pindos bought into the “Iraq wmd” and “Russian hackers” bs. Hence the wall to wall hysterical propaganda in zionazi-gay media and from zionazi quisling regime tools.
The zionazis have not been able to instill the sort of “Hitler youth” fanaticm they created in israel among their colonies, but they did zombiefy the bulk of the populations enough, now, that they can do pretty much whatever they want and the colonial’s won’t counter them in any effective way. What happened in the uk, has been happening since the 70s (thatcher regime), is they have been brought down to the very low standards of americans. That may and johnson, and the brit versions of the zionazi-gay media are not being opposed in any massive way indicates the zionazi endeavor to bring britain down to the u.s. level of zombiefication has been successful.
Put another way, the Great Game ended here.
Yes, Putin says it all. Ostensibly a military nerve agent was used, and the victims miraculously survive, and all this was done right before the presidential elections in Russia and the upcoming World Cup. What is shocking is that those who perpetrated this false flag attack actually expect people to accept this propaganda nonsense.
Most here in NZ do believe – yes yes – quick lets move on and watch some more Cricket – very very sad and pathetic lot we have become :-(
For some background, here is just a taste: https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2016/01/21/craziest-conspiracy-theory/
https://original.antiwar.com/mcgovern/2012/07/10/the-mystery-of-arafats-death/
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2006/12/04/alexander-litvinenko-blackmailer-smuggler-gangster-extraordinaire/
What are we witnessing with the Sripkal incident? Is this a psychological warfare operation? Is it –how shall I put it– class warriors “going nuclear” by going nuclear?
This is going out on a bit of a limb, but I wonder if Otto Warmbier’s fate might not be related to the Sripkals’. If nothing else they share a similar media stage, demonizing an “enemy regime.” http://abcnews.go.com/US/otto-warmbier-blind-deaf-returned-us-parents/story?id=50099791
Following Engdahl, I assume that the enmity between the US deep state and North Korea is apparent, whereas the enmity between the AZ’s and Russia is real. https://journal-neo.org/2016/11/01/north-korea-is-an-pentagon-vassal-state/
I wonder if this article is the reason that NEO is under attack?
Thanks! Nothing like a BoJoke video clip to lighten up a day.
The part about chemicals “going to the United States, or even America” was priceless.
The NATO spokesperson should have spent more time studying his lines. He looked like the understudy in a high school play who only signed up to be close to a particular girl but now is on stage and having to look to the wings for hints as to what to say next.
I must admit, I find some of the comments posted on The Saker’s website somewhat offensive, but don’t worry, I am not offended in the slightest. I am English, and some of the things posted are true. But there is no way, us British are going to attack Russia. For one thing, we wouldn’t last an afternoon.
The Russians are our Friends.
So I try an challenge some of the things written in The British Press, but although British, I find myself almost completely banned. So I posted this on Craig Murray’s blog, and so far it hasn’t been deleted, though I did have to edit my first submission, before it appeared for a few moments
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/boris-johnson-a-categorical-liar/comment-page-10/#comment-727685
“Velvet Revolver – Slither”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKz2U4fvA4U
To all my Russian Friends – Have a nice Spring.
We can survive this current insanity.
Please don’t nuke us, even if you think we deserve it.
Tony
How long now before we discover that closeted Boris (he hides it but his sister outed him as a kibbutzim Jew) is a pedophile (He looks like Saviles’s evil cousin) and barren Teresa Mayhem loves ‘pizza’?