There is an interesting word in Russian: вялотекущий. It can be translated as “creeping” or “sluggish”. It is composed of the word вяло which means “lethargically”, or “torpidly” or “apathetic” and текущий which means to flow, to progress. This word comes to my mind when looking at the war in the Ukraine, it is progressing towards some kind of worsening, but it does so in a slouching, slowly creeping way.
Novorussian side
On the Novorussian side the recent elections did not solve the constant infighting between the various commanders. To my great regret, this nonsense is still going on. Bezler was removed from his command, Mozgovoi was told that his brigade had to be incorporated into the Novorussian Armed Forces (NAF), which he gladly accepted, and that this would be done by breaking up his brigade into various units of the NAF, which he categorically rejected. Then there was the news that Zakharchenko had decorated Strelkov and Borodai as with the Medal of “Hero of the Donetsk People’s Republic”. Strelkov denied that adding that he would not take that medal from Zakharchenko anyway. The news was then “corrected” to say that this decision had been made about Bezler and Borodai. The blog of Colonel Cassad (http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/ – the most honest Russian-language blog on Novorussia IMHO) goes into exquisite details about all this nonsense and the English version of this site apparently has resumed translating his blog. You can find the English version here: http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/.
Voentorg in action |
The good news is that while the Novorussians are fighting, the Russians are sending them huge amounts of weapons. The main difference with what Russia did in the past is that this time around the Voentrog is not done covertly at all and that these huge columns of trucks have been seen driving around the center of Donetsk, clearly in the hope that somebody would film or photograph them. The message to the Junta is clear – we are ready and we will support Novorussia. It appears that so far this new “semi-overt” style of support has deterred the Junta Repression Forces (JRF) from any major attacks.
Question for everybody: I have heard reports that columns of T-80 tanks has been spotted in Novorussia. Can somebody confirm whether this is true or not? So far, all the “T-80s” have turned out to be modification of the Ukrainian T-72, but the appearence of Russian T-80s could be significant because while not modern by Russian standards, most Russian T-80s have been retrofitted with modern electronics and fire systems. In other words, a modernized Russian T-80 would have a huge advantage over a Ukrainian T-72, specially an unmodified one.
I personally do not really care who of the Novorussian leaders is in command as long as it is one person. All of them have shown that they are competent military commanders so the question is a political one. Zakharchenko is by far the most legitimate political leader since he won the election, and he seems to most willing to do what the Kremlin wants which I consider a good thing. But this is also the reason why a lot of the other field commanders don’t like him, especially Strelkov. But then again, Strelkov himself is far from being unanimously endorsed either and, besides, he is now out of the Novorussian political game since he now lives in Russia. The fact is that Novorussia cannot exist without Russian support, so my totally politically incorrect preference for the command of the NAF would be for a Russian general to be put in charge, but that ain’t happening. Next best, somebody who will listen to a Russian general. But for the political command of Novorussia was is needed is a good administrator, a local Novorussian and a civilian capable of effectively interfacing with the military commanders. I personally liked Borodoi, but any guy close to the security services would do.
Why the security services? Because no real “democracy” is possible in a combat zone. So the next best thing is a pretend democracy where the democratically elected leader has some personal legitimacy, but is willing and capable of working closely with the military commanders and with the Kremlin. Sort of Borodai v2 I suppose. Alas, I don’t see that happening anytime soon.
Ukieland aka Banderastan
The total chaos in continuing the the Nazi-occupied Ukraine. While the junta did succeed in bringing a lot of military power (man and gear) to the line of contact, no real attack has materialized. Besides the already well-know terror shelling of civilians in Donetsk, the new and rewamped JRF has not shown itself capable of anything yet. Could they do more?
Yes, definitely, they now have three things which they lacked before the Minsk agreement:
1) More firepower
2) More armor
3) Well defended sectors
These are good ingredients for a determined attack. The problem for them is, of course, that the NAF now also has more of these three categories. Finally, the NAF retains a very significant advantage in moral, tactical proficiency, local population support, knowledge of the terrain and reconnaissance. This, along with the repoening of the Voentorg spigot, might well explain the current Ukie lack of attack.
[Sidebar: I have seen a lot of nonsense about Uncle Frost, General Winter, Jack Frost, etc. This is utter nonsense. Both the Russians and the Ukrainians (as if they were different) have fought wars in the winter for over 1000 years and they can very much do that again. Even in the Arctic (in the case of Russians). The Russians train in Siberia, on permafrost, in the Caucasus and, of course, in Central Russia’s brutal winters and while extreme weather conditions of the Winter or Spring (the thaw) make that harder, they don’t make that impossible at all. A Winter offensive is definitely possible, is less likely]
On the political side, on the Ukie side the elections has also not settled anything and all the bigshots are busy fighting each other. Most of the “action” seems to take place around Kolomoiski, but there is plenty of hatred to go around for everybody.
Russia
the leaders of the free world |
The big news for Russia is clearly the drop in the prices of oil and the drop in the value of the Ruble. Are the two linked? Yes, of course. While the general economic downturn worldwide did probably negatively impact the price of oil, there is little doubt that the AngloZionist Empire is using its influence to prevent the OPEC countries from cutting down on production. Is this strategy effective? Yes, definitely, but it also is very pricey, especially for the US shale gas industry. Cheap oil is also very good for China, so while Russia is hurting, China is getting a much needed boost. Worse for the AngloZionists, Russia and China are signing even more multi-billion dollar contracts but instead of dollars, they make them in Rouble-Renminbi.
Still, the worst problems for Russia are, beyond any doubt, self-inflicted. There is a reason why Russia has been so dependent for years on gas and oil exports: it is because the Russian economy has not been able to provide alternative sources of revenue and the reason for that is that the entire economic system adopted by Russia after 1991 has been designed to lock Russia into an “African” style of economy: Russia was allowed to export her raw materials and was told to import all the rest. How was that achieved? By telling the Russians to keep interest rates high, their savings invested in US T Bonds and keeping their main corporations incorporated abroad. Of course, none of that would have been possible without a faithful local comprador class imposing that system by its power of corruption on the rest of the country. The bottom line is that these sanctions primarily hurt Russia there were Russia is weak anyway, so in a sense you could say that these sanctions are acting like cattle-prods forcing the Russian state to very reluctantly go to its own salvation.
This is now a race against time. Who, of the USA or Russia, will have to cave in first and who will have the staying power to hold on to its objectives. Can you guess on whom I am betting? :-)
Conclusion
The situation in Novorussia is bad but not catastrophic. Russia will help Novorussia through the winter months and, hopefully, the infighting amongst the field commanders will eventually stop.
The situation in Ukieland is terrible and only getting worse. The Ukraine is now somewhere between the 4th and 5th Orlov Stages of Collapse. The recent gas deal with the EU and Russia changes nothing to that fact. We can begin to think of rump-Ukraine aka Banderastan aka Ukieland as something like a ‘frozen Libya’: a very dangerous, poor, violent wasteland run by thugs.
The situation for Russia is difficult, especially in the short term. The good news is that Russia is immensely wealthy with huge reserves of gold, currencies, natural resources and human capital and that Russia is politically extremely stable. The deep strategic alliance between Russia and China is, for both countries, the “ticket” out of the dependence upon the dollar and the way to true decolonization from the Empire.
As long as Vladimir Putin and Xi Jiping hold the course – and I believe they will – the Empire will continue to slowly erode.
The Saker
Saker,
Regarding the 5th Column and the Putin Faction in the Russian Establishment, does the Putin Faction have a line of succession past Putin himself? Please excuse me if you’ve addressed this topic, but I haven’t seen it.
@Blue 10 November, 2014 05:21
“Economics: it’s easy to get lost in abstraction and theory, but it’s actually about standard of living, like eating and living indoors, and the other things people like.”
You are absolutely right and what you say is particularly true for Russia, a large and resource rich country with the potential to become a world of its own.
An economist in a small country once said the prime minister, a farmer (!) by profession, understood economics better than many economists. We start by defining what we want to do, plow a field or build up the economy, then we go get the tools, a tractor or economic theory. An economy is not some theoretical thing, it is a living entity and, coming from humans, it has human characteristics. It can get sick, it can die and it can be reborn or rather grow a child.
Russia will adapt, it will take time, but it can be done.
Daniel said…
I have always loved this song and it seems to fit what is going on in the world today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVGtG-ZnF0g
“Roads To Moscow”
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Hi Daniel
It is a great song I love it and never get enough of it.
Try this one
Panzerkampf
Into the Motherland the German Army March!
In the Soviet Union, Summer 1943
Tanks line up in thousands, as far the eye can see
Ready for the onslaught, ready for the fight
Waiting for the Axis, to march into the trap………..
http://www.elyricsworld.com/panzerkampf_lyrics_sabaton.html
…………
Regards ( Anti-Natoist )
Voss said…
Saker,
Regarding the 5th Column and the Putin Faction in the Russian Establishment, does the Putin Faction have a line of succession past Putin himself? Please excuse me if you’ve addressed this topic, but I haven’t seen it.
10 November, 2014 15:29
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You read too much Anglo-Saxon propaganda.
Russia is a democratic country with many parties and when comes time, there will be legal election.
To: Anonymous 10 November, 2014 14:59
You wrote to Kat Kan: Perhaps your perception is clouded by prejudgements/prejudices including the following.
Anonymous, we are not on this blog after having studied philosophy or semantics. I understand Kan Kan perfectly. It is probably difficult for you, but try to come down to our level of understanding and have a real conversation with us. Look at the real issues. Novorossiya in this case.
One more thing. This is an international community. Many speak English as a second or third language, after years of hard work, and that is why they are able to enrich the blog. They provide important information not available in the anglosaxon world. Kan Kan speaks well, but don’t expect perfect English from everybody and don’t expect anyone of us to be experts on your kind of logic. It seems to be far removed from the topic at hand.
RiaNovosti is now Sputniknews.com
Sputniknews
Policy and Media expansion to Global Alternative Source.
Nice change in design, too.
Here’s the policy statement explaining the change.
Change Statement
to commentator asking about presence of polish words etc-in uk english has a remainder of celtic anglo saxon (beyond swear ones, eg earth), loads german/dutch, norman french etc etc etc my own name is from viking…..so I imagine much the same from the old polish empire that stretched to the Black sea
Although yours is a first-rate sitrep, there is one assertion that bothers me: “No real ‘democracy’ is possible in a combat zone.” While this may be true in actual combat, we have seen direct, participatory, protagonistic democracy operate in the Zona Zapatista (the Juntas de Buen Gobierno), and, according to Pepe Escobar (please see http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-01-241014.html) we are seeing it again in Kobani, Kurdistan, where the “bad” Kurds instituting it may be displaced by the “good” Kurds in the pocket of CIA.
The EZLN is actually a conventionally-organised army: the three stars on Subcomandante Marcos/Galeano/Delegado Zero’s uniform indicate he is a Mexican Colonel. Not only does he avoid the inflation of rank in which most Mexican military zone commanders indulge (calling themselves “Generals,” and wearing four stars to go with the rank), but he stubbornly sticks to the nonbre of Subcomandante, insisting that he, and all the forces under his command, serve under the civilian Comandancia.
In sum, while democracy may be impossible in combat, it is, in our view, the most solid basis upon which to ask people to lay down their lives: the sense that, once again, those lives are theirs.
To me changes are most important to see what might happening. From an optimistic point of view.
1 The Valdai speech. (in hidden diplomacy, the points pres. Putin made must have been made Very Clear by the diplomats to the other , ´our´ side).
2 Proof of this is the brand new, shiny! quality of hardware and the silence about it in the MSM. And the lack of a credible @nazi.uk offensive.
3 Again, it looks like pres. Putins´ golden strategy: victory is the amount shots Not fired!
(In this case, the (indeed scary!) military build-up by the NAF, might have caused the generals in Kiev to reconsider.)
Hundreds of people, from both sides, are living another day! And may more can stay in their homes, and live a somewhat normal life (kids need that).
Unfortunately, another US state dept. official will visit soon in Kiev, I think.
To order a winter offensive? I would say: mrs ambassador, do it! What you will get: The locals, with some Very Sophisticated Support:
Crush the best (and other) forces, take the hardware, kill the nazis! The conscripts can leave.
By spring, most of Novorossiya will be liberated. The rest will have to be liberated by (supported) uprisings.
Sanctions? Perhaps? another round. But no more. It would cause a revolution in the EU.
( I do believe that Greater Novorossiya has to be one country: to Kiev and to Moldovia. All by democratic referendum.)
[from Blue]
On organization:
We need to balance sound theory with praxis, the one being a product of formal intellectual analysis, and the other from the brain’s capability of holistic ‘thin slicing’ and other modes of thinking. The mind should be informed by theory, but not limited to it, but also informed, thinking critically, by experience and intuition. (The old ‘bumblebees cannot theoretically fly, but they do.)
Compare with standard economics models and math VS Steve Keen’s advanced math and ‘Minsky’ computer programming.
Occupy Wall Street was good in it’s decentralized direct democracy, but failed to meet practical requirements, using temporary hierarchical organization and control when needed.
We have made tremendous progress with computers using math and theory, such as developing relational databases over the old hierarchical, or later network, models — which seemed to come from the traditional top down models such as monarchy or oligarchy. But the theory has not yet sufficiently informed politics or government, or most management, and, in general, neither the communists nor the anarchists have developed robust and practical methods and paradigms.
Politics and human organization is complex — but then so is economics, and some good knowledge is being developed in the latter, helping to throw off preconceptions and bad habits.
Two sources for knowledge regarding politics and government is the body of mathematics, information theory, and computer science, and records of experience of more anarchic, or democratic, organization such as Native Americans, Quakers, and Mondragon.
If the hold of tyrants, fascists, and oligarchs can be broken then much better organizational models can be developed, and it seems to me that Russia is a place where this has a good chance of succeeding. The question should not be ‘who is the boss and who is in power’ but ‘what sort of organization and control methods would suit us best’ — and mathematicians and computer scientists have much to contribute in progressing.
_Blue
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b469d43a-68c5-11e4-9eeb-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3Igur0LhN
“A nuclear-armed Moscow, intent on challenging US, poses risks we are only starting to understand”
-more propaganda and blinkered exceptionalism.
@ Observer 05:50
One wonders how the Russian state could obtain control of its Central Bank so it could control its economy, and what would happen if it did.
Good grief, Saker! I have been called a troll by six people on these threads and never thought of throwing in the towel!
I recall a science fiction short story about a Utopia with only two laws, breaches of either punishable by death. They were “Thou shalt not offend thy neighbour” and “Thou shalt not be too easily offended.”
Looking for bias and reading with bias in mind are neither “stupid” nor “ignorant,” they are compulsory when studying a “hot potato” topic if you want to understand what’s happening.
I recognize in you a good mind and an honest voice and would expect the same from you, but you are not the one person in the world who has no biases. You are noticeably not as skeptical of other monarchists as you are of most sources. I tell you this as a friend.
I was recently accused by “Elsi” of trolling for — is it Kuryagin? I was composing a reply to her that began “You ask a valid question and raise valid concerns” when she posted that she had fallen in love with Strelkov the first time she saw him in a video, and I thought “Oh, well.”
I have indeed heard of Slavyansk and have spent some 20 hours researching it and directly related topics. I think Strelkov’s actions at Slavyansk may have cost our side the war. How could he even consider accepting a command of an army, fighting a 20th century war, when he had never led more than a very small company, which would normally be commanded by a sergeant, and when he knew nothing of artillery or even pitched battle?
I think you have either not listened to the Strelkov interview below or not done any re-thinking after taking in its revelations. Strelkov confirms, even tops, everything I have been saying about his unfitness for command.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hg95XF5RJE
He told his fellow war gamers that he would be back in Moscow in June. He has made it very clear that he expected Russia to invade in the near future. While waiting, he kept a good fighting force chasing their tails with the only things he knew, surveillance and sabotage, after an initial period when the rules of engagement were “no firing at the other side, they are our brothers.”
My biases: My undergrad studies were in philosophy. (When I want to, I can write like S____, whose name is not, I believe, to be mentioned.) I thought it would be pure technique; I could use it for anything.
Along the way I was underwhelmed by Hegel. Marx said he had turned Hegel upside down. I didn’t think that improved Hegel’s looks much. It follows that I’m not a Marxist, on grounds more technical than moral.
I am, however an ultra-left non-Marxist, a tendency that has no political home where I live. I belong to no party or movement or fan club of some political figure. At one point I briefly carried an SD card, but I burned it on the steps of the legislature. I have been an atheist since I discovered I was not the only one. Before that I thought modestly that there must be something I was missing. I don’t really care where anybody’s sexual preferences would fall on a bell curve, and I wonder about somebody who is passionately interested in this question.
I am across-the-board anti-racist but recognize in myself racist antipathy to Germans, rooted in listening to Hitler on the radio and the jackboots marching in my nightmares during my formative years. Show me who you are not where you’re from. Unless it’s Israel. I thought the Jews of the diaspora were a gift to the world, but Israel? Fehhh!
I hate and fear the U.S. and the NWO. I hate fascism. I was for the Novorussians when I realized they were the vanguard of resistance to fascist revanchism in Europe, whoever led them. This is why, beyond an occasional shot across the bows, I kept quiet about everything I was learning about Igor Girkin until one leader emerged from the scrum, which I believe is the situation now.
Something significant happened at the Russian Central Bank
Russia ends dollar/euro currency peg, moves to free float
http://rt.com/business/203959-russian-ruble-free-float-bank/
Thanks for the sitrep, Mr. Saker.
I’m fairly new to the site, and I don’t comment a lot, but:
Can anyone help me understand the sheer arrogance of the US-Anglo-Zio-sphere?
Whenever I comment on another standard anti-Russian article, the absurd level of arrogant dismissiveness I receive is beyond belief!
It is as though any point-of-view other than that the US, EU and NATO (and neoliberalism) are absolutely superior, and that the poor benighted savages in the rest of the world are being done a favor by having our will imposed on them, is some kind of heresy.
It is simply the colonial mindset, the “white man’s burden,” and messianic triumphalism of the most bizarre kind.
The average denizen of my nation (the USA), and it would seem Western Europe, has very little idea that the nature of reality may be different from the constructed hyperreality sham they live in.
There is, for the most part, no sense in arguing with people, because they are unable to argue, comprehend the idea of dialectic or evidence-based discussion, or the fact that the “world” we live in is constructed, and that therefore there are alternatives to the neoliberal, globalist tyranny system.
Keep up the good work.
Comment by Jacob Dreizin at the Mish website
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2014/11/ukraine-split-in-two-expect-major-rebel.html
Points out that Ukraine hot water for buildings is heated with coal. Lack of coal and limited supply from Australia (250,000 tons) will leave Western Ukraine cities very cold, Especially with the upcoming Polar Vortex.
Also discusses the elimination of the Debaltsevo salient and how Ukraine can be partitioned into Ukrainian and Russian language Oblasts.
WOW Russia as of today has removed the US$ and Euro peg to the ruble. But how would this work? It has to be pegged to something. Free floating something which has no value means you dont know its value except what value yo place on it.
Now I dont think this would make any difference since JPM will keep their peg to the US$ and Euro and every other currency and control everything like they do now. How else can they buy Silver for $15 when production cost is over $20 for the majority of producers and only profitable above $25 an oz.
Someone people here were talking about Bank bail ins! I say, TOUGH! You have to be rather stupid to keep cash in a bank after you got hit with a 2×4 in 2008. After getting hit by the bus, truck and train, you have to be diminutive minded ie a retard to keep anything more than what you need daily in cash. Here they are trying to sell you something that will never become worthless at far below cost and out lasts history itself but not many takers.
Like they say, a fool and his money are soon parted..
Most of Russia’s problems it seems are self inflicted. ie by Russians themselves. Including this problem with the exchange rates which were caused mainly by loot leaving the country for safe heavens like park avenue in the US.
here we are, the 10th of November, we have comments about wars of 2014, and songs and more from the war years of the 1940’s, and tomorrow 100 years ago, marks the end of WW1.
100 hundred years and countless millions who have laid down their lives, and still we go on… as though nothing had happened…
“Strange, friend,” I said, “Here is no cause to mourn.”
“None,” said the other, “Save the undone years”…
—Wilfred Owen, Strange Meeting, 1918
pb
New neo-plan for neoconsolidation of Syria/Iraq
NOV 10
Meyssan
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185850.html
A faction within the Obama administration is pushing for the creation of a new plan: the simultaneous remodeling of Iraq and Syria into five states, including two cross-border states.
The representative of Ban Ki-moon in Iraq, German neo-conservative Martin Kobler, strangely reported the merger of the Iraqi and Syrian battlefields to the Security Council in July 2013. [2]
Without communism, what we end up with is _such_ a “society” of zombies: USA at its smartest: Epic brawl on NYC subway goes viral after ‘man slaps soul out of girl’ (VIDEO) http://rt.com/usa/204135-nyc-subway-brawl-over-fasion/
In this special case I don’t even blame this man, btw.
The girls’ brains must have been destroyed years ago by western MSM and top-brands advertising.
As sad as it is: In Ukraine and also RF a process of materialistic mental erosion has already started in the sup-40 generation (and also above) : Smartphone, BMW, leather jacket from this brand, handbag from that brand, French parfum for 150 EUR.
I’m not sure, how this process could possibly be reversed.
Dear The Saker,
There seems to be an increase in trolls on this article – obviously getting close to some truths ;).
I am ignoring them as they get paid for every response they get back.
Rgds,
Veritas
Donovan Kirsten said:
“…Strelkov himself, in an interview several days ago, said China is as bad as the US, in that it is an imperial power with a materialistic emphasis preserving its own hegemony.”
Did Strelkov really say that? I’m not aware of China bombing other countries halfway around the world, overthrowing their governments, planning to rule the world or claiming the right to kill anyone anywhere in the world without charges or trial based on the unaccountable whim of its leader.
So, if Strelkov actually said that, what does he see that I don’t?
Hey did you guys see the star trek convention in china yesterday? All they are missing are tribbles.
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/11/APEC%202014%20big.jpg
Warning: US training of Ukranian Nazi troops in winter fighting.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-military-to-train-ukrainian-soldiers-and-national-guard-to-fight-people-of-donetsk-in-cold-weather/5413096
Dear The Saker,
I noticed you have posted this article in Russian Insider:
http://russia-insider.com/en/military_politics_ukraine/2014/11/10/08-51-06pm/slow_creep_war_east_ukraine
Rgds,
Veritas
Thanks for the updates
@Cassandra: So, SAKER: when and where was Strelkov ever a field commander?
You: Ever heard of a place called Slaviansk?
Is it time to ask that Strelkov’s co-religionists self-identify, perhaps with a discreet M (for monarchists) after their sign-ins, when posting about Strelkov?
You: What a stupid and ignorant thing to suggest.
here’s what you left out Saker:
Cassandra: Have you not seen or heard of his recent video (url posted on this blog, I think by Demargot) in which he says when he recently experienced an artillery barrage he realized that he’s never seen war before? And you know in this war he rode a desk. It was no war for someone who knew nothing about artillery.
So Saker, the question clearly asks whether Strelkov was a Field Commander BEFORE Slaviansk. and does that video, allegedly posted on your site, exist?
Pretty ugly slapdown, esp of a long time contributor who’s posted some subtle insights. and there is truth in a previous qualification posted by one of your peers, who said he’s withdrawing participation because you post what you want to believe.
there’s been some pretty tortured stuff in your corner, like how Communism wasn’t really Russian; how the Poles deserved everything they got… rigid, ex-cathedra positions.
Now, in the recent Strelkov interview, a new – purified – Orthodox elite will safeguard the virginity of the Russian people, and save them from the liberal/hedonistic spiritual bankruptcy of the West.
like we haven’t seen this before? oh yeah, that was a Christian heresy, this will be the real thing.
(btw, i’ve read Berdyaev. he was not a “Monarchist”).
In the broad arc of history, commodity prices will rise. Putin is wise to ignore the tricks of the Banksters.
The Russian economy will bounce back and Putin will have permanently damaged the New World Order without firing a shot.
Game, set, match: Putin.
Saker said:
What a stupid and ignorant thing to suggest. Normally, this would have landed that comment into /dev/null, but in this case I left it just to tell you how discouraging it is to try to explain something to folks with that level of ignorance and prejudice. Comments like this one make me feel like throwing in the towel in disgust and just give up. Good thing they are rather rare.
Rend, rend thine hair, Cassandra…
(Dante Gabriel Rossetti)
@Cassandra: if you don’t see why this sentence of yours Is it time to ask that Strelkov’s co-religionists self-identify, perhaps with a discreet M (for monarchists) after their sign-ins, when posting about Strelkov? fully deserves this reply What a stupid and ignorant thing to suggest. Normally, this would have landed that comment into /dev/null, but in this case I left it just to tell you how discouraging it is to try to explain something to folks with that level of ignorance and prejudice. Comments like this one make me feel like throwing in the towel in disgust and just give up. Good thing they are rather rare. then we will never understand each other.
@Bogdan: consider this blog like an AA meeting: take what you want, leave the rest. As for your post – it is just as stupid and ignorant as Cassandra’s.
This topic is now closed.
The Saker
More MSM Bull Biscuits;
“‘Putin’s Revenge’: Russia And China Try To End The Dominance Of The Dollar”
Who asked for the ‘Dominance’ in the first place?
Revenge?
My ff-ing astrolabe!
@Veritas: There seems to be an increase in trolls on this article – obviously getting close to some truths ;).
Nah, this SITREP is rather mundane, nothing profound in it, really. Mostly, it’s the same guy under different aliases. That, and the recent full moon maybe :-)
But no worries, I am working on something which will really ruffle plenty of feathers…
Cheers,
The Saker
APEC in progress Beijing now thru 11th, with G-20 this weekend nov 15-16 in OZ.
Check out the happy-smiley bunch!
they’ve noted where O was placed in the pic, but perhaps more notable as a message is where Abbott, the OZ belcher who threatened putin just 2 weeks ago, was placed–that’s him in the VERY FAR BACK left in the photo.
just imagine what the G-20 group photo will look like.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-10/china-sending-america-message
Nazi NATO, but No War Crimes Tribunals? Why?
NATO has no reason for existence anymore except to stir World War III against Russia
http://www.infowars.com/nazi-nato-but-no-war-crimes-tribunals-why/
DONOVAN KIRSTEN: I think there is some context that you are missing, which causes you to look upon everything in the article w doubt and misgiving. To supply that context, may I suggest reading some of Saker’s archives on Russia? Just scroll down & on the left side there’s a list of months w arrows in front of them. If you click on the arrow, it shows the article titles.
This site is exceptionally pro-Russian, so that if you read something that doesn’t SEEM pro-Russian to you, you should suspect that you don’t know the author’s full reasoning.
Knowing of your interest in Tibet I think you might be interested in this news link. http://nsnbc.me/2014/11/05/china-warns-separatist-fantasies-tensyn-gyatso-k-dalai-lama/
If you search the site you will find articles rich in Tibetan detail not available elsewhere. Even if you disagree w the point of view, the detail may be valuable to you. Regards.
especially liked the way you began this sitrep, with Russian introduction: вялотекущий. and those trucks lined along the road… made me think of my Monday morning self, advancing slowly, sluggishly through the household, vacuum cleaner in hand, flowing remorselessly upon the dust and filth…
Here is the lead article at Reuters, this hour 6:30 EST, 10 November 2014:
Ukraine faces bankruptcy as fighting flares again
By NATALIA ZINETS and ANTON ZVEREV
KIEV/DONETSK Ukraine – Ukraine’s currency lost nearly 5 percent of its value after a weekend that saw the heaviest shelling in a month hit the main rebel stronghold in the east. Full Article | Video
a click on the link for full article takes you to:
Ukraine’s currency plunges as ceasefire fears grow
(Reuters) – Ukraine’s currency lost nearly 5 percent of its value on Monday after a weekend that saw the heaviest shelling in a month hit the main rebel stronghold in the east and signs that Moscow had dispatched troops and tanks to reinforce separatists.
“The prospect that a two-month-old ceasefire could collapse and all-out war return to eastern Ukraine has weighed down the economy and helped drive the currency 12 percent lower since the central bank abandoned an unofficial peg a week ago.”
“The country of 46 million people is near bankruptcy, dependent on international loans, and deeply in debt for natural gas to Russia, the former imperial master it accuses of waging war on behalf of separatists on its territory.”
[.]The immediate economic concern for Ukraine is the currency, as the sharp fall imperils its banks. The central bank abandoned its unofficial peg last week after spending $1.3 billion, around a tenth of its remaining reserves, to defend the hryvnia in the past month and a half.
“They’re trying to show us that we have a floating exchange rate, but I prefer the term ‘sinking’ … the market is in a phase that could be classified as panic-mode,” a banker for a foreign bank’s subsidiary in Ukraine told Reuters.
[.]
Ukraine still has to pay Russian gas debts of $1.6 billion by the end of the year as well as over $700 million a month for new supplies. The next loan tranche under a $17-billion-dollar International Monetary Fund Program bailout program is likely to be delayed until the end of 2014 or next year.
Some experts say that will not be enough. Ukraine is “already at most people’s worst case for the year. The IMF program now needs totally recalibrating,” Standard Bank analyst Tim Ash said.
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Paging, paging Ms. Lagarde, Managing Director IMF; Please pick up the Red phone in the lobby nearest your suite.
AM
http://nsnbc.me/2014/11/10/isis-americas-dream-rebel-army/
Even a cursory look at ISIS’ holdings across the region reveal ratlines leading into NATO-member Turkey’s territory and all along the Turkish-Syrian border where news outlets like the New York Times and Washington Post have reported for years the CIA had been operating – unloading billions in aid, gear, weapons, and even vehicles to militants fighting within Syria.
MARTIN BOCHNIG from East Berlin:
I have been posting for some time now on the somewhat secret or at least little-known status of Germany since WWII. Please tell us whether the following is generally unknown to the German people:
“Germany, Japan, Italy are still covered by the UN Charter’s Enemy State Clause, Germany still has no peace treaty, the 2+4 “instead of a peace treaty” is just that “instead of”. As long as we don’t have a peace treaty we can’t vote for a new constitution. The current “basic law” was largely dictated by the victors of WWII; Not to forget that the basic law has not even any territory that it covers, and there is a lot more. A lot. Among others, that German policy still can be dictated by the supreme headquarters, allied command. Russia (USSR) rescinded that right at the time of the German reunification, others did not.”
The quote is from Christof Lehmann of nsnbc.
http://nsnbc.me/2014/07/11/germany-expels-u-s-spy-chief-opens-geopolitical-can-of-worms/
Also
http://www.rense.com/general69/germany.htm
I think this is terribly important cuz it cd explain why Germany seems to be subjugated to US foreign policy. I wd really like your input. Thanks.
BLUE; Thanks for the Winter campaign difficulties summary. I never wd have thought of how difficult it is to be stealthy while leaving tracks in the snow. I suppose people need more calories, too– to keep warm.
What we see now is a real civil war. It is not a paid for colour revolution. It is not a long-planned tskeover to promote some ideology. It is plain civil war, people realising it is time to defend themselves against their own government, which promptly proved them right by turning ordinary discrimination into open genocide.
Everyone just “knew” they had to go and fight. There was nothing prearranged or organised. So naturally leaders soon developed, and some became minor legends that many looked up to. Strelkov was one of these. He still has many supporters. But Novorossiya is not his home and he has no longterm future there in any position.
Earlier someone stuck into me for saying the leaders MUST we locals. At first it made sense for Moscow to send people, to keep an eye on things, to keep the civil life going while everyone else was out fighting. But having them there, obvious foreigners (Russian passports, lives in Moscow,works for GRU etc), just made it look like a Russian plot to the West. These were not people the locals could look up to. When enough local leaders had developed that it wasn’t going to break down into a 60-way fight, the Russians were “purged” ie sent/called home.
In this time, the fighters had changed from small bands fighting out of anger, to larger groups fighting FOR their lands and families. Then came the ones recruited by their families or neighbours being killed in front of their eyes. Then came seeing they were fighting AGAINST a common enemy. It always was that enemy, but it took time (and the enemy’s growth) to crystallise the thought. This too is natural in the life cycle of a revolution.
Now they talk of fighting to save the entire country, including the bits they originally started the fight against. A small number of attractive and articulate idols and legends have been built up, deliberately. They take the pressure off the dozens of less known commanders, and the unknown ministers working on mundane unglamorous things like getting a postal service working (25 post offices to open this week, following 10 banks last week).
The fake ceasefire was good for Novorossiya. It was the break for turning the bands into an actual army, the trophies into actual professional equipment, for starting to do serious work on ensuring a normal life for the people under their rule. And to assess their situation with clarity and prepare for the next step (which they are now in). If you occupy a territory you have to hold it and run it. Especially if it was your home to begin with. Democracy, it’s called.
Meanwhile the dream/plan of liberating the other would-be republics has been made urgent by the excesses of the storm troopers, who are hitting the Ukrainians as well. These soon will ignore what the TV tells them, and rely on their own comparisons of the opposing forces, as they become more exposed to both.
A few months ago, they would have accepted federation. Now they can’t even accept independence, with storm troopers on their borders. No amount of political settlement with Novorossiya will help Kiev get rid of the monster they created. NAF has the experience now in getting rid of them. By the time that is done, they will also have PROVEN experience in rebuilding a devastated country.
There are fewer people without heating in an area where all infrastructure was deliberately bombed, than where everything went on as normal. Oh, except for sons going off and not returning. Or returning with tales of the “enemy” feeding them.
IMF will estimate the cost of fixing Ukraine their way, throw up their hands in horror, and cut their losses. Guys who are winning a war on rebuilt broken trophies will fix a broken country for a quarter of the capitalist price.
Re: The BRICS bank. LaRouche site says the funds are being kept in an offshore British-controlled bank. Hope that’s not true.
Every great capitalist economy developed in the 19th century from its internal market mainly.And definitely in the first great industrial revolution.Really only in the 20th did it branch out to vast amounts of trade in products to other countries.Since then some countries have based their economies on worldwide trade.Japan,Korea,Taiwan,and now China in particular have used that model.But except for China.The others are forced to do that by either small size of population,unable to expand more internally,or in Japan’s case especially,lack of resources.And needing to export and import to keep a great economy supplied and functioning.In the case of China.I think it has been an error (which I think they are working on fixing) to depend as much as they do on exports.They have the potential to do what the US did in its period of real greatness.To expand internally,and base their economic growth on developing the vast Chinese internal market of 1.5 billion people.Russia doesn’t have nearly the numbers of China.But still at around 150 million people (and which could increase from Ukraine).And with the expansion of the Eurasian Union they will have a market of 200+ million people.There is vast room in their economy to expand ,just by cutting off imports and producing those imported products at home.As well as for the Union countries.They need to breakout of the “African Model” Saker talked about.And,while certainly continuing to export excess raw materials.Re-industrialize their economy to not be dependent on imports, that can be subject to outside control.
Uncle Bob
@Anon with the APEC photo
“..they’ve noted where O was placed in the pic, but perhaps more notable as a message is where Abbott, the OZ belcher who threatened putin just 2 weeks ago, was placed–that’s him in the VERY FAR BACK left in the photo.
just imagine what the G-20 group photo will look like.
..”
In deep dark Soviet days, when some leader was about to be purged, they were first airbrushed out of the group photos. That was how they (and the world) knew.
Russia and China are linking more than gas pipelines for the next thirty years. The first was Power of Siberia pipeline for $400 Billion in natural gas.
The second this week was for the western pipeline, and it could be for a similar price. Though the falling price of oil is linked to price of gas.
But there were other energy projects. Hydro electric.
With RusHydro signing two agreements with Chinese PowerChina for five power projects in Russia the enormous power generation needed for the development of both Russia and China will now have clean energy.
These projects would be for power plant and pumped storage plant and flood control on both banks of the Amur River. These go beyond a number of agreements signed in May.
So for infrastructure from St. Petersburg to the Far East, the entertaining of construction, engineering, financing, investment and operations of energy will link China and Russia for the rest of the century.
They have closed a vast divide in less than a few years. Some of these have been talked about for up to ten years.
Putin wins again.
Though both sides say their relationship is strategic partnership it is not a military alliance, that not even the SCO will be a military alliance, you can bet that S-400 and S-500 batteries will be used in both nations to protect these energy developments.
The gas and oil deals also will be RMB transactions cross-border. No USD in these deals.
And the big Russian corporations are looking at the Hong Kong Stock Exchange for listing. They would delist from the London Stock Exchange perhaps.
There clearly is a big Dragon that likes the big Bear next door. They need one another and are establishing deep, permanent relationships against the Hegemon.
English in college testing is being deemphasized. Russia is the new language they are stressing.
All the signs are there that Russia and China will work in concerted fashion to protect themselves and outmaneuver the containment and threats of the US.
@”Cassandra”,
It is not true that I said what you claim I said.
Those who know me know I love everyone, Putin, Strelkov, Mozgovoi, The Saker, they all have dedicated songs.
In any case, try to discredit me because I say I love someone says something about you. Just as those who attempt to discredit Putin saying he loves a gymnast. What if it is true? Am I intellectually less able for to love?
To be in love with Strelkov I would have to treat him a little more than just see it in a video, I already have an age, although not as much as you, sure. So if I do not lack is passion, to love life and all the beautiful things and people I meet in her. Strelkov I find one.
A question: One can be far left and walk singing wonders of an oligarch as Akhmetov?
Bogdan: I’m touched.
http://rt.com/business/203959-russian-ruble-free-float-bank/
usually this is done to either prevent direct speculative attacks
against a currency by the bankster forex traders by removing the ‘link’ to it,
OR it is also done as part 1 of a two-step when the second step is re-pegging it to something else.
Maybe putin really does have that timeline to 2016 drop dead dollar date, & is following it, the one that there’s so many stories now floating around the net about?
MARTIN BOCHNIG: i forgot. There is a German language source:
Christof Lehman says “When you study the issue, you will not be able to avoid a lot of mis- disinformation, some Neo-Nazi material that plays into the hands of MI6, CIA etc.. A good starting point would be the German Philosopher and Military Historian Peter Feist. If you understand German, go eventually to Youtube, type “Peter Feist, Feindstaatenklausel”, that will get you started too.”
Regards –Penelope
reuters refers to Russia as Ukraine’s “former imperial master”. For the record: Ukraine was a participant, not a victim of the USSR. Ukrainians occupied many high offices. Two heads of state were Ukrainian: Khruschev & Brezhnev.
Plus, Russia is not USSR.
well well, Kholo is approaching the day that he will be accountable for his crimes
http://rt.com/politics/203111-russian-communists-kolomoyskiy-denounce/
and his AZS buddies in Moscow will not be able to save him, unless they go down with him
SITREP Ukraine:
If anyone has “sold out” it is RT–their coverage is nil about the Ukraine. Yes, we know the Ukies are back to “mowing the grass” in Donetsk. But much more is going on so What is up with these folks? I’m taking them off my desktop.
Here is from the academic neocon site that does not mince words;
http://stratrisks.com/geostrat/21516
article is about Russian government banning the use of the dollar maybe?
Is that why RT is maintaining an appalled silence about what is going on inside Russia? All those 1% Russians are not going to be happy. Oh which side are you on? separating the sheep from the goats.
Anglo enemiesvof Rusdiavhave always been slimy plotters.
Knowing that putin would be in their den for g 20 meetings, they ardeted Ukraine to push ahead whike they would presdurise putin to do nothing during that pushvfor one week.
Putin should have boycotted G 20 useless meet and he dhould be careful about what he touches or eats.
Anglosaxon head England must be sorted out.then others will fall naturally.
Penelope said…
reuters refers to Russia as Ukraine’s “former imperial master”. For the record: Ukraine was a participant, not a victim of the USSR. Ukrainians occupied many high offices. Two heads of state were Ukrainian: Khruschev & Brezhnev.
Plus, Russia is not USSR.
11 November, 2014 01:52
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You are right, I have seen it too.
The fault is with the Russian media, why they do not call all NATO countries
with the name “the American present vassals”?
I appeal to Saker and all regular visitors of this forum let’s use the correct terminology.
Ukrainian army sources publicly reveal 80% of soldiers involved in ATO come back crazy.
No data on how many had pre-existing conditions.
http://www.dnr-news.com/stati/7397-ahtung-armiya-ukrainy-shodit-s-uma.html
Excellent analysis on this Fort Russ blog which someone mentioned above.
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2014/11/after-eliminating-competition-kiev.html?spref=fb
“To temporarily let off steam is only possible by throwing a sacrificial lamb to the crowd. But the time when the Regionals or the Communists could be sacrificed has already passed. The Nazis, of course, are ready to kill more of them, as well as all the “vatniki”, “colorados” and other anti-fascists, but someone in the current government has to answer to the people for the February-November period of Ukrainian history . And there are not many of them: Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk, Turchynov, Avakov, a dozen smaller politicians – that’s the whole list. And they all filled the two main opposing factions: the Popular Front of Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko Block.
Armed and very angry at the world and each other people can not sit idle. This is not “Berkut”, who for months waited patiently for orders from Yanukovych’s team on the dispersal of Maidan. These are gangs of soldiers of fortune. If they are not thrown at the enemy, they will rush at you. Thus, Kiev politicians do not have that much time. Fighters should get the order to “Go” in the coming days, maximum a week.
Of course, you can use the old as the world trick and dispose of mercenaries at the front. But there are unsolvable problems. First, with a probability of 100% if they receive orders to go to the front, they will act as the Petrograd garrison in February 1917, for which only unverified rumors about a decision to advance was enough to overthrow the monarchy, which was much stronger than the yatsenyuk-poroshenko team of spiders in the can.
Secondly, the Kiev army, after the August defeat, is not able to conduct military operations for more then two weeks (but most likely the front will fall even sooner). After that, the Kiev government is faced with not only the militants who want to revenge on the “traitors, guilty of defeat”, but with the advancing militia, who also wants to present a bill for the destruction of cities, murdered civilians, and tortured captive comrades.
part 2 of that quote from the Fort Russ blog:
The rate of advance of the militia will be determined by its relatively small size. Therefore it will not be able to reach Kiev quickly. It will be necessary to pause, take control of the occupied territories, conduct mobilization activities, merge local partisans into fighting units and then move on. This creates another problem for Kiev. In the case of lightning approach of the army of Novorossia to the capital, the government could flee abroad to work as “government in exile” and for the next 50 years to lecture and to write memoirs about how “the Russian totalitarian Asian horde strangled a young Ukrainian-European democracy”.
But, as between the beginning of the attack of the militia and the capture of Kiev there will be no less than one to two months, maybe more, for the Nazi gangsters from punitive battalions there will be more than enough time to shoot the “traitors” and create a “revolutionary government” of the Maidan and the authorities in Kiev will not only have no reason to run to the West, but most likely will not even think of it. They will continue to direct the Nazis against each other and wait for when the U.S. will solve all of their problems.
In fact what are considered the Kiev authorities (although this has long been the conglomerate of fighting for virtual power political zombies, just about ready to go into the category of real corpses) can choose between starting a shootout in Kiev, with the subsequent collapse of the front or the collapse of the front with the subsequent shootout in Kiev.
It is obvious that the regions which have not come under the control of militia and have not started a revolt, will not necessarily agree with the results of another armed revolution in Kiev. Some will deny to submit to the rebels, others will declare their “independence”(since now everyone has territorial battalions, and the military resources of the authorities after a coup will be sharply reduced). In general, the progression of makhnovshina [anarchy] will be almost instant.
Warning: US training of Ukranian Nazi troops in winter fighting……..
The war is a dirty and very unpleasant business.
A man has to be be MADE for war or have a will.Those factors come first and the training last.
I have also doubts about American’s military school.
We all know what had happen in Georgia.
The same happen in Iraq, and Afghanistan is not much better either.
Here is a laughable clip of American Marines fighting in Fellujah:
Troops Versus Building – an Iraq War tale -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N-1E2F9pmc&list=UU5bytSjxUNOBW4FAfSCWLpA
And the last If I were Ukraine officer trained in Soviet school,
I would find it insulting to see American come to my land and train me.
So my though in respect to Yankee training is “I would IGNORE IT !”
well, now we know why Abbott was placed in that APEC group pic in the far back corner, as near to out of the picture as he could be.
http://nsnbc.me/2014/11/10/abbott-to-say-no-to-xi-and-the-new-asia-infrastructure-investment-bank-twice/
A recent analysis of the development described U.S. pressure against nations’ joining the new Asia Infrastructure Development Bank as the choice between gold and gunfire, noting that the U.S. applies relative soft pressure against Australia, while it won’t hesitate to provoke civil wars in for example Thailand to prolong the (f)ailing new American Century, just a little bit longer.
part 3
Of course, the first candidate for “sacrifice” for the crowds will be Poroshenko. People are used to the idea that the President is responsible for everything. In addition, supporters of peace will be disappointed by his inability to bring peace, as supporters of war will show him the bill for defeat, as the Commander-in-Chief. Finally, he is an oligarch with business in Russia (almost a perfect traitor of the Motherland).
But this does not mean that Poroshenko will be the last victim. Once hated by almost all, Yanukovych was the last barrier between bad order and a rebellion, so today Poroshenko is the last barrier between the remnants of formal statehood and complete anarchy. Under conditions of complete anarchy nobody needs Yatsenyuk or the government or the parliament deputies or political parties, or even journalists and political strategists of Maidan. Every “Pan Hetman” has their own “golden reserve”, which is determined by the number of bayonets under control, and the number of bayonets – by the luck of “Pan Hetman” in obtaining the “golden reserve”.
And I’m afraid that very soon the Kiev “Europeans” who have “not noticed” the Nazis before and considered acceptable to use all the firepower of the Ukrainian army (including aviation and ballistic missiles) against civilian towns, will learn that Nazi gangs rob and kill not only “colorados” and use artillery against “Europeans” with no less pleasure than against “vatniki”.
By the way intra-Nazi and “intra-European” conflict in Kiev is a good chance for many of the remaining supporters of the Russian world to survive. They will quickly cease to be the main target, and the final collapse of the state machine will not allow to use centralized repressions against them. The militants will seek out their victims not by ideology, but by wealth. Of course, those who will express their position with at least the degree of openness which was possible during Poroshenko, will be destroyed by Makhno-Nazis without hesitation. Also at risk are those people who are widely known. But, for those who are not as well known and will not look for trouble, having expensive cars, nice clothes and an apartment in a prestigious area will be more dangerous than having antifascist views.
Russia-insider.com been down since this morning anyone have the same problems?
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Very good article on the Fort Russ website. A look at what may happen in Ukraine over the winter.
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2014/11/after-eliminating-competition-kiev.html?spref=fb
That article on on globaleconomicanalysis says something worth contemplating:
“So, this is just speculation, but I am pretty sure there will be one more major rebel advance (and major Ukrainian defeat) before winter starts in earnest. The rebels simply cannot afford to have their largest cities still within range of Kiev’s heavy artillery when the temperatures are consistently below freezing. They can’t continue to have their people being made homeless all through the long Russian winter. If for no other reason, they will have to strike hard to push the Ukrainians further back.”
Can the Novorossiyans handle constant bombing over the Winter?
In all the clutter we forget.. So we should keep reminding ourself. Does anyone remember that OBL was treated at the american hospital in Dubai-UAE?
Thats right, the CIA world HQ is based in this pathetic little desert ever since they directed the terrorist invasion of Afghanistan in the 1970’s.
Osama bin Laden died in December 2001 of renal failure and other health problems, having denied in his last recorded video any responsibility for 9/11, instead directing Americans to look inside their own government. The FBI itself has stated that there is no evidence that Osama bin Laden is responsible for 9/11. Bin Laden’s obituary appeared in numerous foreign and Arabic press, and also on Fox News.
For awhile there were news reports that the families of these dead SEALS do not believe one word of the government’s account. Moreover, the families reported receiving messages from the SEALs that suddenly they felt threatened and did not know why. The SEALs had been asking one another: “Were you on the bin Laden mission?” Apparently, none were. And to keep this a secret, the SEALs were sent to their deaths.
Anyone who believes anything the US government says is gullible beyond the meaning of the word. By Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40177.htm
I don’t expect any big ground-gaining offensives to be attempted by NAF. With rare exceptions they move short and it has served them well. It’s what works best when the other side has advantages in numbers and equipment.
UAF might try a big ground gainer, but they don’t have any real opportunity for one. Their attack force in Avdeevka is in a very serious situation. By some accounts it is surrounded. Maybe, maybe not, but trying to launch a major attack from Avdeevka would be suicide now. My guess would be that NAF will play the attrition game at Avdeevka with quick response defense, limited attacks, and actions behind the lines against supply and relief. The Avdeevka situation also suggests a huge vulnerability on the southern flank of any Ukie forces moving on Gorlovka from the west. The Ukie forces in Pisky are totally pinned and unable to attack. The only real value Pisky has for the Ukies now is as a forward artillery base against Donetsk. They’ll probably make a stand there for that reason alone, although it would weaken their position in the long run.
The Debaltseve situation looks closer than ever to being a boiler, with NAF encroaching on their main supply route northeast of Gorlovka. Initiative along the Seversky Donetsk seems to be in the hands of NAF. The Bakhmutka blockposts are going from bad to worse and NAF is penetrating along the north bank. The big question is how much UAF reserve can be committed to shoring up their north bank position and/or fighting for the supply route to Debaltseve. IMHO the smart move would be a retreat from Debaltseve to a better defensive line north of Svetlodarsk and reserve priority given to the North Bank. Chance of that actually happening? Not much, largely because of political reasons.
A large Ukie armored reserve force south of Kurakhove suggests the possibility of an attack on Donetsk from west-southwest. But how wise would that be with the prospect of a co-ordinated attack with a northern force fading and dubious control of lines north and south of the attack axis? It seems like a formula for another attack force pinned in a salient with NAF gnawing at them.
The Ukies’ rear security and supply situation is horrible. In recent days, partisans have burned fuel depots at Konstantinkova, Kramatorsk, and Kharkov, a supply warehouse in Kharkov, and an ammunition depot at Izyum. How much ammunition and fuel the Ukies can afford to burn through with offensive operations under these circumstances has got to be a consideration.
None of this is even considering the potential for a situation in Kharkov, Dniepropetrovsk, or Zaporyzhye needing the resources of the UAF.
Quote without comment:
elsi said…
I forgot, Anonymous friend, Strelkov I not only like but love him very much, as all heroes of Novorussia.
Understand that I get carried away by passion.
Anonymous said…
here we are, the 10th of November, we have comments about wars of 2014, and songs and more from the war years of the 1940’s, and tomorrow 100 years ago, marks the end of WW1.
100 hundred years and countless millions who have laid down their lives, and still we go on… as though nothing had happened…
No, no, no, no, no. Today (November 11) commemorates the end of World War 1 – the armistice signed on November 11, 1918.
We are at 100 year commemorations for the beginning of hostilities.
Interestingly we just past the 100th Anniversary of when Turkey entered World War I on the side of Germany (October 29, 1914). The Armenian Genocide (April 24, 1915) and Gallipol Campaigns (April 25, 1915) are close behind of course.
BTW, Elsi, you asked if I did not think there were good spies.
I do. For example, I think the Cuban Five were good spies.
But my point was this: there is not, never was and never will be an honest spy.
There is no trained spy whose face you can read, who gives himself away by body language or tone of voice, who doesn’t keep his stories straight.
When I said Strelkov was a consummate professional liar it was not an insult, it was a job description.
Coat gate: See the video before it goes down.
http://www.3news.co.nz/world/video-putin-gives-peng-liyuan-his-coat-at-apec-2014111114
Please note, Putin does not give his coat to Peng Liyuan. They are outside, he gives her his blanket.
They were talking, he notices she is cold, he gives her his blanket, see the interpreter, Putin seem to have asked for permission to giver her the blanket, anyway that seems to prompt the other attendant to come up and bring Peng Liyuan her coat.
Sigh.
JAKE:
“Can anyone help me understand the sheer arrogance of the US-Anglo-Zio-sphere?”
The source is “The Project for a New American Century” a think tank co-founded by Victoria Nuland’s husband that built the neo-con movement. It was abandoned when they took over the government. I tried to find you their founding Statement of Principle, but ran into websites down and broken urls. They’re pulling up their roots.
Wikipedia has a cautious but extensive entry on them which includes a list of the signators to the founding statement. You’ll know some of the names, and Wiki also includes a chart of which Bush administration appointees trace to PNAC.
The url below leads to a site with an archive of 100s of articles. There’s a recent one that describes how Ukraine fits into PNAC’s plan. “Reshaping America’s Defenses,” link on the site, is their seminal work. You should read it (everybody should) and I think you’ll find the tone familiar, maybe even some phrases.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1937.htm
haha, you have to laugh or you’d cry. Dontesk blogger on NAF capturing 2 more new tanks
“That´s how the #NAF get his resupplies and armour, it´s easy. Home delivery service by the Ukie Nazi´s.”
Actually not all the Russian stuff is Army surplus, either. They just got a warehouse full of winter clothing, designed by Mozgovoi, paid for by donations, specially made for them, at ONE QUARTER the normal price, around $30 a fleecy waterproof 8 pocket camo jacket seems very cheap to me.
Hi Saker !
So there are alot of comments…I guess I missed a day, as I got the new computer…Windows instead of Ubuntu…
I will be glad when the new blog is running again as I’m sick of these anonymous comments…sometimes people insult under their “name” and then an anonymous comes two comments down that sounds like the same “insulter” as the other one…yuck.
I though its a good article…
It seems to me that the Strelkov supporters, under the name “anonymous” are more mean than the other “side”. That’s the only intelligent thing I have to say about the infighting in NR…
Daniel Rich said…
Off topic:
Why the hell is this breaking news over at Russia Today?
“Israeli man stabbed in Tel Aviv, terror a
Yes, Daniel…I get the feeling of MSM now alot when I read RT…too bad….
To Maqrtin Bochnig !
I agree with you about the mysterious, boring Gorbachev… I think he’s comfortably off, economically…he seems like a thoroughly comfortably off fellow…I don’t know anything else about him, even though I bought his book…its just as “non-telling” as anything you’ve ever read. Thoroughly boring.