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Trumponium and Putinita?!

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  1. PokeTheTruth on July 04, 2017  ·  at 5:51 pm EST/EDT

    A couple of questions for the Saker community,

    1. Does anyone know how well the four, “Safe Zones” are working for the Syrian people? See: https://www.rt.com/news/387304-syria-safe-zones-russia/ .

    2. Has there been any discussion within the Syrian Alliance (i.e., Syria, Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, etc.) to expand them as ISIS Inc. is eliminated from populated areas within the country?

    it seems to me the more safe zones are declared, the less opportunity for the U.S. coalition to justify its continued occupation of Syria.

    • Grieved on July 04, 2017  ·  at 6:19 pm EST/EDT

      Sorry I don’t have any links for you, but reports I’ve read all state that they’ve worked extremely well. Violations are only by a few terrorists – it’s a good way of spotting terrorists, who then don’t have long for this earth. The west has not interfered, I believe.

      And a new, temporary cease-fire zone was just declared yesterday I believe, in the south, to last through June 6 – i.e. up until the G20 meeting. Perhaps as a way to clean the field so that SAA couldn’t be accused of any false flags. But we have seen how well these cease-fires work for SAA itself, and this alone might be the reason.

      Cessation of hostilities and de-escalation zones have worked impressively well in the hands of the Russians. It’s amazing that no one in the west has ever really had such a thing in their toolbox. it must be the Hollywood conditioning that victory is won by destroying the opponent – when in fact all it takes to begin peace is to stop fighting.

      I’m sure if there’s a benefit to expand the zones – and your thought makes total sense to me – then this will happen. The action is safe in Russia’s hands, they won’t miss an opportunity to spread peace.

      • Larchmonter445 on July 04, 2017  ·  at 6:53 pm EST/EDT

        The three enforcing powers, Russia, Turkey and Iran (not Syria) are working out the specifics and the detailed boundaries. They have a group intensively working this out, and then, they will go to UNSC for additional enforcing nations to join. But the trio are writing the rules.

        Since there are so many successful reconciliation agreements for many months (1484 was the last count I was), and seemingly, many tribal settlements as they call them are happy to be rid of the terrorists, the psychology of Syrians has changed dramatically. Peace, redevelopment, a taste of local autonomy (granted by Assad through the reconciliation deals) is on everyone’s mind except the US-Israel-Arab coalition’s mind.

        It looks like Putin and Erdogan have also discussed some zone that will corral the Kurds and keep the Americans out of the equation.

        The US and Israel will do everything they can to destroy these efforts.

        • TSP on July 05, 2017  ·  at 2:48 am EST/EDT

          “The US and Israel will do everything they can to destroy these efforts.”

          I think a truer statement would be “Certain factions within the US government and Israel will do…”

          Huge parts of the US are not behind this, mostly all US citizens to start, and from what I hear, this is quite true in Israel too. I saw a photo of a protest there with “Not In Our Name” posters and rabbis galore. Certain parts of .gov are opposed inevitably too, as there is nothing unanimous in Washington, ever.

          The cartoon displays results of an exothermic reaction. More likely, the two mixed will probably be quite colligative and then produce some noise dampening medium instead. Though graphically that concept is pretty weak.

  2. Ann on July 05, 2017  ·  at 5:41 am EST/EDT

    I think this is a good idea but Putinita would cool Trumponium – water on fire –

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