On Collapses:
The USSR collapsed after 50 years of containment, fierce competition, drunken leadership, an ideology that was like embalming fluid to a living body, and hundreds of billions of dollars spent by its adversaries used to weaken and destabilize its economy, after it was skewed by a disastrous war on its border.
Predicting the collapse of other units, like the US, EU, the West is problematic.
Certainly, NATO as we know it is morphing. It came into the spotlight as a fraud of an alliance post-Iraq. It does not work as a military body when the war it should fight is a ground war. It is basically a means of controlling US vassal states (member nations) and an extended air force and missile platform used in regime change conflicts.
Trump spotlighted its uselessness. Immediately, cosmetic changes are being made and new “terror as enemy” mission statement has been written for its charter expansion.
Russia has neutralized NATO’s strongest European unit, Turkey. Russia has surrounded Turkey and contained it economically and militarily, as well as psychologically. It did it with Putin’s will power and S400 missile defenses which deprives the Turks from flying over Syria. Putin’s slight moves with the Kurds has also catalyzed Erdogan to kiss his ring. So strategically Turkey is forced out of NATO by its own rash behavior which scared the hell out of its members, especially the USA.
If Erdogan continues on a path aligned with Russia regarding Syria, fighting ISIS and coming back to a gas pipeline deal, it will be the beginning of what we thought would happen in 2014. Turkey would join Eurasian development, get very rich and enjoy an economic growth beyond its wildest dreams. It would not need membership in EU or participation in NATO. It would be threatened by no one and prosper as a nexus of gas, oil, food and tourism.
Russia has also marginalized Israel as a steady wingman of the US. There is definitely movement by Israel toward a working arrangement with Russia in Intel, Military, gas field development and perhaps some arrangements regarding Golan Heights. It might also touch on Hezbollah. We know Putin has given assurances that he would not transfer advanced weaponry to Hezbollah. Also, Putin has agreed to not defend Hezbollah’s weapons in Syria. A few stand-off missile strikes during the last 9 months (reported as air strikes erroneously) were coordinated in some manner with Russian defenses in Syria. The Israelis have been prudent not to abuse the arrangement and Russia has not harmed its arrangements with Iran, Syria and Hezbollah allowing Israel these missile strikes on human and weapon targets. In the long run, it is confidence building between Russia and its national interests and its regional interests and Israel’s economic and security interests.
Russia in the Ukraine conflict is a game of another sort. It is much more pure military, though it is played out as Minsk 2, Normandy Group, EU sanctions, US hegemony and hybrid war. No, it’s a military dance. Pure and simple. If an offensive by the Ukies with NATO support of any kind, that does not matter (1000, 2000, whatever is on the ground in Ukraine at the time) Russia will destroy everything in Ukraine within 300 kilometers using the Army of Donbass. If the Ukies attack over the border into Russia (including Crimea), Russia will destroy Ukraine as a nation, totally devastating any structure of governance in Kiev. It will cease to exist as a nation. It will be a land of lost peoples, missing a huge swath called Novorossiya.
This dance of US versus Russia played out in the Ukraine may be over in January 2017. If Trump wins the election, it is over. If Clinton wins or some Dem wins, it will go white hot. The Army of Donbass will be enlarged by 10,000 or more volunteers, armed drones, missiles for long range strikes and a fierce war to the death of the junta and Kiev will be fought.
Russia will stay out of it because it is not necessary to join in. If a border of Russia is transgressed, Russia will destroy Ukraine’s national government and leave the country smoldering. Doesn’t matter what the US or NATO attempts, the Ukraine threat is existential not political or economic. A Nazi or proxy nation used to bleed Russia cannot be tolerated. And Donbass cannot be tolerated by Kiev. So, the inevitable tension will force some junta action that will be national suicide.
Nowhere in any of these situations are there impending collapses. Force will be used. Specific, local force. Erdogan felt it and shifted his goals. Israel felt it and shifted. NATO is feeling it and will shift. Right now we are in a seven month window of danger. Obama could do something highly tragic. He has a great capacity for bad decisions. But in November the world will see hope or disaster. Everything then changes. This election will determine the next 10-20 years. The Hegemon may withdraw slowly from global chaos maker. Or the neocon demons could be unleashed.
Re Trump and his effect on US foreign policy: No president is an island unto himself. Track his selection of advisers. That will tell the tale.
Trump: I speak to a lot of people, but my primary consultant is myself.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/trump-foreign-policy-adviser-220853
If you are following the Trump movement, you probably should have noticed that he is gaining the support of patriotic sections of the American society:
1) Veterans
2) Border police and law enforcement agents
3) Biker groups
4) NRA members
5) Republican voters, old and new
6) Disillusioned Bernie supporters and other Democratic party members
7) Significant numbers of Hispanic and African-American voters
8) About 50% of Military personnel were polled to support Trump, as opposed to Hillary’s 20%
And why does he need to do this if he is “another fake candidate”? Trump already made it clear in his past rallies: The greater the winning margin, the bigger will be the mandate given to him by the people to change and clean up the rigged and corrupt system.
But some people will still say that Trump can’t be the real change because he supports Israel. Hey, Israel was and will continue to be a strategic ally of the USA, whether we like it or not. Trump probably will continue this support. However, here is an important difference: Trump prefers negotiations and seems not like bullies and wanton acts of destruction. Trump doesn’t like armed Palestinians groups kill unarmed Israelis and commit acts of terror. The more they do this, the more Trump will support Israeli policies against the Palestinians, despite the issue of the original sin.
Yet, Trump might also be a golden opportunity for the resolution of the Israel-Palestinian conflict via the Two-State Settlement, despite his current view point on the conflict. If the Palestinians were to voluntarily disarm armed militant groups and stop terror attacks, and able to convince Trump the benefits of ending the conflict, such peace proposal could happen. And how would the Palestinians convince Trump that they are really the victims of occupation and oppression? Pen and paper basically. Encourage every Palestinian families affected to send letters and photos of their loved ones who were killed, as well as photos of their old title deeds to the land and properties that they owned to the White House. Make proper use of those NGOs and Palestinian Solidarity movements to accomplish this. Even Israelis who want an end to the senseless violence can do this on their side. Make a deal with Trump in other words.
But Trump will be surrounded by Neo-cons and Zionists and Saudi influences! He cant make that deal even if he want to! With that kind of patriotic support he has, Trump might actually be able to accomplish it. Will his life be in danger? Yes, but I have a feeling that the Secret Service will protect Trump and his family with their lives.
The AngloZionist empire will implode under its own weight.
With capitalism ravaging, there is no need for adversaries.
“This dance of US versus Russia played out in the Ukraine may be over in January 2017. If Trump wins the election, it is over. If Clinton wins or some Dem wins, it will go white hot.”
I have never understood this essentially baseless notion of importance pertaining to who’s currently occupying — or will soon occupy — The Offal Office. Again: As opposed to rabid Zionazi Hillary Clinton who promotes all-out global conflagration, Donald Trump professes increased chauvinism and repression within US borders. The problem with that approach, however, is that whenever the ruling US corporatocracy faces a political problem anywhere in the world, the fascist gung-ho mentality of the overwhelming US majority — Donald Trump included — will instantly align with Hillary’s views (with a little help from the Ziomedia, of course).
To put this into a more general perspective, one only has to look at the abominable EU and its equally rotten imperialist institutions. Does anyone here at The Saker believe for a moment that the prevalent party affiliations, sexual orientations, religious creeds, etc. of the serving apparatchiki would ever endanger imperialist lawlessness and neoliberal austerity?
On second thought, however: Western imperialism’s showdown with Russia and other countries in the process of leaving the Western orbit actually means that human civilization is hanging in the balance. At this level, it might indeed be accidentally decisive if an insane Zionazi or just a “plain” US bigot is Head of State. But the bloodlust and exceptionalist insanity of the dying Empire will contribute to immense suffering regardless.
I have reservations and not very optimistic too should Trump becomes the next potus. Why? Because we do not know how independent he migth be from the “deep power” that in fact controls the US ie. the military industry, banks, media. If he does not obey them he simply may be killed (like Kennedy). Still I prefer him as next US president than Hitlery, at least there is some hope for real peace in case of him as president,. time will tell.
trump vs killary is like pestilence vs cholera – no more words needed – better start praying for peace!
If Clinton does not occupy the oval office, there is no longer demonization of Putin, Russia and China. More likely just a long civil war with walls on its southern and northern borders and a squabble to bring some jobs back home. The US is baiting China over its artificial islands, and left it up to Australia to hold the fort in the South China Sea. Australia’s defence secretary did as bid and threatened China. Not unsurprisingly China called Australia not a paper tiger, but a paper cat!! The US is simultaneously trying to get wars running with Russia and China, whilst keeping its Ponzi economy from toppling. I could imagine some mud slinging in there too: “Ruski” “Gay”
“Ruski” “Gay” “Homophobe”. and hangs up. Will November come and go already!
Nussiminen,
” never understood this essentially baseless notion of importance pertaining to who’s currently occupying — or will soon occupy — The Offal Office ” >
Well said. This type of understanding is contrary to the historical process that a country passes through. If Hillary gets defeated, and after taking charge, if Trump does not follow the AngloZionist road, Trump will be physically eliminated and someone will be installed at his place who follows the order.
If Russian and Chinese leadership, indeed start thinking that Trump will be ‘in the same boat’ for helping their resistance to hegemonic world order, it will be a rude shock for their own country and, indeed for the entire humanity.
Straight-Bat,
Your conclusion to the effect that
if Trump does not follow the AngloZionist road, Trump will be physically eliminated and someone will be installed at his place who follows the order
is absolutely correct. And what is also a given is that in these highly unlikely circumstances, only a minuscule number among Trump’s own electorate would be mourning his murder (unless the Zionazis could get away with blaming Putin or Assad, maybe). The truth is that The Exceptionals don’t take lightly to imperialist setbacks, let alone utter defeats. Anti-Mexican and anti-Muslim bigotry for Heimat consumption — well and good. But such practices, however pleasant, don’t contribute much to the parasitic misappropriation of the world’s labour output and natural resources, which is the rallying call for the overwhelming US majority and its ‘patriotic’ sensibilities.
I mentioned the EU to further clarify the utter futility of bourgeois elections as a means to “improve” imperialism’s God-awful track record. The system is indeed beyond redemption and below contempt and also in very serious trouble indeed. This should be compared to the countries leading the Resistance. There, who is in charge is a question of life and death; literally.
Nussiminen,
” … the parasitic misappropriation of the world’s labour output and natural resources, which is the rallying call for the overwhelming US majority and its ‘patriotic’ sensibilities ” >
As you pointed out so clearly, the primary reason of Hegemonic world order is to ensure siphoning off the wealth across the world by the 1% elites-oligarchs (whether we call them as AZ cabal or by some other name) which require unhindered exercise of power across the world … Whether ‘enthusiastic’ Hillary comes or ‘reluctant’ Trump comes or anyone else is installed there, is immaterial unless and until a leader from a successful mass movement in USA that wants to bring social justice, economic equality, and true liberty for domestic population and foreign countries, comes to power. I was somehow expecting (hope against hope) Bernie to appear as a true leader for USA – I’m shaken to the core when I find that Bernie says he will vote for Killary.
I will share my opinion loud and clear with all friends and bloggers – there is no medicine called ‘Trump’ for the global hegemonic illness! There is only one medicine for hegemony – 90% of population who are the ‘common people’ need to create movement to seize power in every country!
“if Trump does not follow the AngloZionist road, Trump will be physically eliminated and someone will be installed at his place who follows the order
is absolutely correct.”
Yes a very likely scenario.
But he will become an historic president. (like Kennedy) if he follows that road.
What is more worriedsome, is that the establishments (or officially Trump himself) has named a vice-president who is very very in favour of what the establishment stands for (wars, nafta, tpp, etc).
So either Trump eventually does as the establishments demands, or they will get him killed and the vice president (who they control) will take over.
In other words they dont need to kill of Trump before the election (so Obama can declare martial law and sit for a 3rd term), they can now get Trump eliminated after Trump wins. and just use the Vice President (who will take over after a president gets eliminated) to declare martial law and dictate.
So the establishment have now set in motion options for all the paths.
Either:
– Hillary wins
– Trump looks to win, and they could eliminiate him in some grand scheme, so Obama can declare martial law so the puppet Obama can sit for a 3rd term.
– Trump wins, and follow orders.
– Trump wins (and he continues to be independent), then they can get him eliminated so Vice President takes over.
(or the more unlikely option: Trump wins, he continues to be independent. and the puppetmasters decides to just lay low untill Trump term(s) are over. but VERY unlikely scenario, because they know that its very high risk that Trump may actually become popular if he is successfull in cleaning problems up.
Big questions becomes how much Trump himself knows about these risks and whats really going on.
Does he play naive, so he wont get to high on the puppetmasters radar of paranoia. or is he really unknowing of whats really controlling and ruling the world.
And what do he do when he finds that out.
Hezbollah by opting to fight the ”liver eaters” in Syria, is shedding rivers of blood to keep these cannibals from spreading into Central Asia and the Caucasus, aka Russia[s under-belly. When the Turks downed the Russian jet last year,
Hezbollah Special Forces were on the front line helping to rescue the surviving airman.
Conversely, from day one of this conflict Israel has been a staunch supporter of the terrorists who are wreaking havoc in Syria. Israel wants to see Syria dismembered irrespective of the consequences.
Weapons and free health care flow freely to the terrorists via the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.
Just last month a senior Israeli security official -Israeli military intelligence chief Major General Herzi Halevy -stated openly that Israel does not wish to see ISIS defeated- and to this extent will be doing whatever it can to prevent it:
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160623/1041776747/israel-prefers-isis-to-iran.html
It is therefore obvious that Russian and Israeli interests in the Syrian theater are diametrically opposed.
Why then does Russia think it is ok to let Israel through the backdoor at agreed times of convenience to kill senior Hezbollah operatives?
Israel is no friend of Russia. Never was. Never will.
If the truth be told, a lot of the hostility that the West displays towards Russia comes about because Zionists in Western capitals demand it.
When will Russia realize that a confrontation with Tel-a-Viv is inevitable??????
“If an offensive by the Ukies with NATO support of any kind, that does not matter (1000, 2000, whatever is on the ground in Ukraine at the time) Russia will destroy everything in Ukraine within 300 kilometers using the Army of Donbass.”
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The Ukrainian army, openly supported by NATO, is shelling Donbass towns and villages daily, and has been doing so for months. Let’s wait and see when Russia will “destroy everything in Ukraine within 300 km”
Question: Which US Presidential candidate made the remarkably humble–and unExceptionalist–statement concerning what America’s behavior towards the world should be: “If we’re an arrogant nation, they’ll resent us.” “If we’re a humble nation, but strong, they’ll welcome us.”
Answer: George W. Bush.
The point is: the American President is a frontman and not the person driving policy. To believe that Donald Trump is “better” than Hillary because his campaign statements are not hostile to Russia is ludicrous.
During his 2000 presidential campaign, George W. Bush made a key foreign policy promise that he would have America practice “strategic humility.” Eight years later, his regime was reknown for its unipolar arrogance.
Bush’s Path from ‘Humility’ to ‘Bring it On’
http://fpif.org/bushs_path_from_humility_to_bring_it_on/
Indeed,Trump has made hostile comments against Iran, North Korea, Iraq, and China, so the idea that he is not a warmonger is disingenous–even if you accept what he says at face value.
And if you want another example of how you simply cannot trust what a presidential candidate promises, just refer to the Nobel Peace Prize-winning huckster of Hope and Change himself: Barack Obama, who is best known for his Kill Lists and Predator Drone attacks on multiple nations around the world.
These US Presidents are all actors in the grand deception called American democracy.
We have just go back home from watching an iron maiden tribute band in a field in Derbyshire with lots of motorbikes…so this is bit stronger than the usual slush I write. It probably won’t appear on the internet anywhere. Apologies for my spelling mistakes.
Its not just the left that is being left behind..it is all you useless Political and Academic People – who actually believe the official us govt story of 9/11
i mean – how thick can you get??
do you want me to debate it in in the oxford union live on tv (if I can stand the smell)?
go on challenge me bambi – you cowards & thickheads
wake up you brainwashed morons
your politicians controlling our world ain’t going to work.
we don’t like you…and you just lost it. Why the hell should we vote for you?
you are all out of a job…
why should we pay our taxes to you bunch of useless morons living in some kind of american virtual reality whilst you drop real bombs on and torture totally innocent people?
goodbye
Tony
Is this a joke?
“get very rich and enjoy an economic growth beyond its wildest dreams. It would not need membership in EU or participation in NATO. It would be threatened by no one and prosper as a nexus of gas, oil, food and tourism.”
1. “Beyond its wildest dream”. Considering that Erdogan is preaching about its glorydays of Ottoman empire, its wildest dreams is from a time when it got rich by conquering others.
Turkey would never get:
2. “Economic growth” in turkey has been high in the past 20 years. Euroasian path…. Russia growth is not that good. So dont know how turkey supposed to get growth beyond its wildest dream by going east.
It may or may not be a good economical decision, but not fantasy level of “beyond wildest dream”. Besides the western banksters controlls most of worlds fundings. They can easily cripple most economies by freezing or attacking them.
3. “It would be threatened by no one”
Sounds extremly naive.
The zionists know how to controll puppets and instigate proxy wars.
Turkey can easily be threatened by internal conflicts if turkey dont bend over for the usa puppetmasters.
The puppetmasters can abuse the Erdogan-Kurd conflict, the Erfogan-Isis issue, Erdogan-Gulan card, etc.
Turkey is very much under threat.
Erdogan can protect turkey by taking more control of the country (but then sacrifizing civil liberties, and defacto himself becoming a dangerous dictator/tyrant).
4. “prosper as a nexus of gas, oil, food and tourism.””
Yes and no.
Ukraine was a giant hub for energy traffic. Ukraine did not prosper.
Offcourse it helps, but not a given.
Hub for banks and capital however… But that is like inviting the devil deciples into your backyard.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/07/15/475309/US-Army-General-Joseph-Votel-Iraq-troops-ISIL
The US military says it may deploy additional troops to Iraq, even beyond the hundreds announced earlier this week, to help in the fight against the Daesh (ISIL) terrorist group.
US Army General Joseph Votel, the head of the US military’s Central Command, said on Thursday the size of a possible troop increase is still being discussed within military circles.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/07/17/475675/sadr-us-toops-targeted-iraq
Iraqi shia cleric Moqtada al-Sadr has told his followers to target US troops who are to be deployed in Iraq as part of Washington’s alleged fight against the Daesh terrorist group.
On Monday, US Defense Secretary Ash Carter announced that 560 more US troops will be sent to Iraq as part of an upcoming operation aimed at retaking the key city of Mosul from Daesh.
A comment was posted on Sadr’s official website after one of his followers asked for the cleric’s response to the announcement.
2 interesting stories on Iraq, where note timing the earlier mentioned here US announcement of 560 troops just happen to be sent to Mosul to “fight ISIS”, when in fact it’s nearly time for the Iraq army to assault/liberate it any week now.
An excellent diagnostic analysis. However, too much hope on Trump’s presidency to change the existing track could be too optimistic. I, personally will be watching events with cautiousness.
I essentially agree with Larchmonter. Over the last three years VVP has woven a web of traps and blinds for those arrayed against Russia and generally this weaving was done quietly while speaking the same principles of cooperation with ‘our partners’ and ‘our friends’. Anyone with intelligence and intellect above that of a fried snail knows these ‘partners and friends’ have the moral integrity of a two kopek lady of the evening and I have no illusions that VVP trusts them as much as I do.
Still and all, the situation all around the Mediterranean and in Ukraine is coming to a head. The fighting is more intense every day especially around Donetsk City but it seems that no one beyond the locals and NAF see a thing. The two times Novorossiya Armed Forces had the orcs on the ropes here came Mutti and Golland screaming ‘cease fire, let’s negotiate’. These ‘negotiations’ and ‘cease fires’ have stretched out this war for another two years at huge cost in lives, wounds and damage. The end result will be the same, the orcs will lose and since there is no way a gaggle of miners and tractor drivers could have beaten the omnipotent orc hordes it must have been Russian Army who came in and defeated the orcs yet again. This lie will be shouted to the high heavens accompanied by the continuous refrain of ‘more sanctions, more sanctions!’. Go for it, you’re going to pile on more sanctions anyway.
Now, if some errant moron with the yellow/blue patch somewhere on his shirt dares to toss a pebble across the Russian border with orcland, well, the bets are off and Mother will show the world how it’s done. Orcland will cease to exist in a week. There is no way europe/nato/us/canada/australia/japan are going to war over orcland, it’s not going to happen, but the sanctions will be draconian. So be it, let Europe shove that ’45 square down their pants, take aim and squeeze the trigger, because that’s exactly what sanctions against Russia are, a self inflicted wound in a very sensitive area. Everyone will suffer except u.s.a. but then what do you expect?
The situation in Syria is moving along. The u.s. coming to Moscow and offering some vague ideas of ‘partnership’ in prosecuting the war against the takfiri as long as u.s. had the right of veto on air and ground strikes was a bad joke but the truly frightening thing is this offer was made and shows the opinion the u.s. has of Russia. Apparently ‘them thats in power’ around Foggy Bottom have learned nothing in this now six year war with Russia. One can only hope that their learning curve stays on the same almost straight down slant. Mayhap things will be better in February next but either way VVP is now pretty much running things there and President Assad will not be put out by anyone but the Syrian populace in an election.
Otherwise, High Summer is in Krimu and with it a veritable high tide of tourists, bums and ‘guests’. With High Summer has also come high temperatures but that is no problem for us, we like the temps. On the other hand there’s so many outsiders here one way or another that I feel another tourist rant coming on. The little drippy nosed dickens are everywhere, eating everything in sight and generally blocking any possibility of getting anywhere including on a sidewalk within a reasonable amount of time. A pox on the lot of ’em.
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Kiev apparently saying ato are in a heightened state of defence cos of expecting an attack by nr forces…..in other words expect an attack by ukr forces?????
More signposts.
Hope they read a batch of fortune cookies before sailing, for good luck.
Remember those mysterious chinese port explosions a year ago August?
Plus there was aug 23/2015 a giant explosion somewhere shandong province, but inland.
2mln Barrels of Iran’s Crude to Arrive in East China This Week: Report
http://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2016/07/18/1133445/2mln-barrels-of-iran-s-crude-to-arrive-in-east-china-this-week-report
The cargo, which was sold by the National Iranian Oil Co (NIOC) to Trafigura, was loaded in late June, Reuters reported Monday.
The Olympic Target, carrying Iranian crude, is expected to arrive in eastern Shandong later this week.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/07/deserter-from-kiev-forces-tells-of-nato.html
Alexei GROMOV, in Riafan, July 14, 2016
Translated from Russian by Tom Winter July 17, 2016
A draftee fled the APU positions swam across the North Donetsk River, that separates the militia units of the LNR and the APU, and spoke about massive preparations for a Kiev attack in the direction of Lugansk.
The soldier, whose name the source did not disclose, reported that around the perimeter of the front along the North Donets River, there are hundreds of mercenaries in the uniform of the APU. Most of the mercenaries are Poles, almost a thousand of them, they are armed to NATO standards and communicating in English.
https://www.rt.com/files/news/26/9d/00/00/screen_shot_2014-05-11_at_13.36.46.jpg
This is an important news item that needs to be spread far and wide.
More on the use of foreign mercs in this attack:
“The soldier, whose name the source did not disclose, reported that around the perimeter of the front along the North Donets River, there are hundreds of mercenaries in the uniform of the APU. Most of the mercenaries are Poles, almost a thousand of them, they are armed to NATO standards and communicating in English.
Arab mercenaries are housed near the village of Stanica Lugansk. These men are in non-standard issue uniforms with Arabic insignia.
According to the Ukrainian draftee, there are in fact not many Ukrainian soldiers on the front lines.
“Our lads, max one-third. The rest are collected from around the world, there are Chechens, Arabs, Turks, Poles. All are prepared to act, they talk of nothing else but “when we go and give it to the Russians and separatists.”
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/07/deserter-from-kiev-forces-tells-of-nato.html
It is common knowledge that there are many foreigners mixed in with the orcs, it’s been so since late summer of ’14. During the Debaltsyevo Cauldron in early ’15 there was a twelve hour stand down as the golden pheasants were allowed to leave. They got the same deal the orcs got two days later, carry their personal weapon and one small backpack with personal possessions only. At least they generally obeyed the deal and left a surprising number of interesting and brand new items lying around. The orcs did not fare so well, their first column obeyed the deal, the subsequent columns did not and hence got slaughtered.
When hostilities renew, and de facto they are now and have been for four months, there will be no stand down to allow the foreigners to escape and that includes the several hundreds of nato ‘instructors’ mixed in with the orcs at the front lines.
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I’m 50 years old, and I’ve never seen an election that said “this one will settle nothing, it will be business as usual no matter who wins.” No, each election markets itself as a fork in the road with no turning back. Yawn….
It’s not over yet. I think the US will make a turkish Maidan to regain control over Turkey. Or they will just outright declare Erdogan as a blight on humanity and off him like Saddam. The media is constantly spinning how democracry is destroyed in Turkey day by day.