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The West Is Now Impotent In The Ukraine Conflict

23431 Views February 01, 2023 Speeches, Statements and Interviews The Saker

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  1. petergrfstrm on February 01, 2023  ·  at 10:28 am EST/EDT

    But the US plans about taking control over the EU is working!
    And all the best analysts regarding military aspects keep reassuring us that the west isnt going to win the war but mostly omit that it was directed against Germany! Michael Hudson said it early on.
    Thus some wellinformed americans are telling us virtually the whole story but we still talk about the ineffective war against Russia.
    I have to conclude that many seem to be happy about bringing down Europe and humuliating Germany.

    • leviathan on February 01, 2023  ·  at 1:19 pm EST/EDT

      You are right.
      This is confirmed by the IMFs Growth Projections for 2023:
      https://www.imf.org/-/media/Images/IMF/Publications/WEO/2023/January/English/WEO-Chart-JAN-2023.ashx#.Y9qsWqxZqsE.link

  2. Haymer Doots on February 01, 2023  ·  at 1:40 pm EST/EDT

    Great video as always, Gonzalo. Thanks.

    However, if you are right and the Russians will take Ukraine while the West can do nothing – and I strongly suspect you are 100% correct – then maybe the US will do as Scott Ritter suggested on The Duran yesterday and throw Ukraine under the bus.

    In short, the US will discover that the Ukraine is corrupt and has been stealing the aid which is why they are losing the war. So as honest people, the US will regretfully have to pull out. Just leave. No more help to Ukraine. Zelansky will just have to deal with Putin on his own.

    This would leave Russia responsible for Ukraine (a large financial burden) while sanctions can be kept in place because, of course, Russia was the aggressor. Russia’s ‘frozen’ funds would only be released after payment of compensation to those poor Western companies who have lost their investments in Ukraine agricultural development (Monsanto springs to mind).

    The US is freed from all further payments and can concentrate on China while Europe re-arms to prevent further Russian ‘aggression’.

    Lack of face within the US by another pull-out like Afghanistan? Not if completely overshadowed by a domestic crisis or scandal – how about Biden’s classified documents being the key evidence in the Ukraine corruption scandal? Impeach Joe! But before this can happen find he is mentally unfit, so he retire somewhere to pass the rest of his days in peace. This leaves the field clear to prosecute Trump over classified documents to prevent him running for President in 2024 – that should take the heat off any scandal caused by abandoning Ukraine.

    The other advantage to the West of the Ukraine collapsing and Russia being left with the mess is that the West can then refuse to recognise any settlements Russia makes. Russia wants a negotiated peace and decurity sorted out – the more nebulous the situation the more this favours the US who can foment later nationalist tensions, terrorism, etc.

    • Masr on February 01, 2023  ·  at 9:47 pm EST/EDT

      Now you understand why Russia keeps saying it is Ukraines business who it’s leaders are?
      While Russia keeps eating up Ukraines territory and military the left over part will do it’s bidding no matter who Ukraines people keep throwing up as it’s leader.
      All the control minus the responsibility.
      It may even involve Russian patrol/ control of it’s borders with Poland and Romania and control of it’s Airports. Rest will be responsibility of Ukraine people and state as long as they do Russia’s bidding.
      Cancel all sale of land to US and west companies, sake if industrial assets to US companies past and present cancelled. Give them over to Russian or Chinese or Indian companies encouraged.
      That’s how the dice rolls else punishment comes again till govt changes tack or people elect a new govt.
      Open borders to all who want to go to Europe.

    • sean the leprechaun on February 01, 2023  ·  at 11:38 pm EST/EDT

      Leave because the Ukraine is corrupt? Surely you jest. Russia killed the gravy train, no more grift and graft for the Biden, Pelosi, Kerry clans, their kids where kicked off the playground big time……billions stolen every year,

      • Haymer Doots on February 02, 2023  ·  at 1:17 am EST/EDT

        A quick pull-out a la Afghanistan needs a publicly-acceptable ‘reason’ – “we screwed-up” is high on honesty but low on street-cred. And like Afghanistan, it would leave maximum mess for others and allow hanging-on to stolen money. How desperate is the US to get out?

    • Rusty on February 02, 2023  ·  at 5:37 pm EST/EDT

      The land grift (Monsanto & friends) could be dealt with in several ways. One is enact the agriculture laws of Russia banning GMO for the liberated lands. Another is to refund the nominal amount they paid in hryvnia, which should have inflated considerably by then. Another is to investigate the contracts of sale and render them void if fraud or graft were involved in the transactions.

  3. Hal on February 01, 2023  ·  at 2:58 pm EST/EDT

    The West (the US) has lost this war in Ukraine. It can still go nuclear and kill us all, but even that won’t mean a win in Ukraine. And instead of weakening Russia, it has shown NATO to be a busted flush. It has also ruined Europe.
    The unipolar world is over. It really is as simple as that. The task facing all of us who live in the “collective west” is to either get our governments to accept that hard truth, or to elect new governments who can. This won’t be easy. Like an ageing actor or an ageing sports star, accepting irrelevancy is a hard pill to swallow.
    I would say to our neo-whatever elites, you gambled, you lost. Time to leave the table.

  4. WTFUD on February 01, 2023  ·  at 9:32 pm EST/EDT

    The West might be running out of weapons, however, if they visit the Dark Web they’ll be able to repurchase (at a discount ) weapons they sent to Ukraine months back.

    Furthermore, it’s not all doom and gloom as the new recruits to the ranks of the UAF are mostly disabled (the ones who couldn’t run) and the West have agreed to send their most modern wheelchairs, each one fitted with a personalised colostomy bag. They reckon wheelchair bound recruits, used to sitting in the one spot would make great snipers.

    Terrain permitting, some of these electric wheelchairs can reach tank speeds, which will be handy for cover when flying west along the road to Bakhmut and Vugledar before they close. The trenches have been made wheelchair friendly to accommodate, in line with the EU anti-discrimination policy.

  5. ProVox on February 02, 2023  ·  at 1:36 am EST/EDT

    Gonzalo made one error …… Russia didn’t invade Ukraine on 24th Feb …… it responded to an attack by Kyiv on Donbas starting on 14th/15th Feb!

    The proof is all confirmed in the OSCE SMM – Ukraine, Daily Reports going from 12th Feb right through to the 24th Feb 2022. Round about the 15th/16th the two Republics, Luhansk and Donetsk, declared UDI’s …… the Duma recognised the declarations …… Russia agreed a R2P arrangement with both ……. both immediately requested assistance from Russia ……. and Russia responded! So the claim that this was an unprovoked attack on a Sovereign Nation is just a big fat lie!

    After eight years of attempted genocide of the people of the Donbas, the US backed Kyiv Regime on the 14th/15th Feb put into motion their FINAL SOLUTION and escalated the violence by orders of magnitude. If it had not been for Russia’s response the genocide of tens of thousands of minority Ukraine Russians would have been the result.

    Why is this never covered in these articles?

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