Over the past couple of days emails have been pouring in warning me that the Saker blog made it to the “An Initial Set of Sites That Reliably Echo Russian Propaganda“: (this is just a partial list, go to the website for the full thing)
Not only that, but the WaPo decided to advertise this list which, let’s be honest, badly needed some official imprimatur since it is made by completely anonymous people. Well, what can I say? Something along “I am deeply honored and I accept the prize” I suppose :-)
To be honest, the vain part of me was a little miffed when my blog did not make it to the http://www.fakenewswatch.com/ list. At the time, I promised myself that I would work even harder to, hopefully, make that list one day.
Now the good news is that I am now in truly excellent company: drudgereport.com, lewrockwell.com, moonofalabama.org, paulcraigroberts.org, ronpaulinstitute.org, southfront.org, sputniknews.com, theduran.com, wikileaks.org, wikispooks.com, zerohedge.com – wow! That is pretty flattering, ain’t it?
The bad news now. This list also include the following: naturalblaze.com, naturalnews.com, gaia.com, floridasunpost.com, cosmicscientist.com. Now, please don’t get me wrong. There is nothing wrong about these websites at all, it’s just that they probably did not try has hard as others to bring down the immense edifice of lies the Ziocon media has been building for the past thirty or forty years.
So, if I have to be truly honest, I have to admit that this list of “Sites That Reliably Echo Russian Propaganda” is, frankly, a botched and half-assed job done by folks who did not really use their head too much to identify their real enemies.
I hope that in the future the folks who made this initial list will narrow it down to a credible list of sources which, in their opinion, “reliably echo Russian propaganda” because it is also quite obvious to me that, with the exceptions of terminally zombified Clinton-bots, everybody else will understand exactly what being listed here means: the list includes all those who threaten the informational monopoly of the Ziomedia both inside and outside the USA.
I think that it would be a good idea to design some kind of “Russian propaganda agent” logo which those who have been honored by being put on such a list could then proudly display on their websites and blogs.
Finally, doesn’t it feel good and make you feel warm all over to see our enemies freaking out the way they are now? Isn’t their panic obvious for all to see and enjoy? I have to say that while we are living in dangerous times, I also feel quite privileged and, frankly, proud to be part of the worldwide movement which will bring down this empire. When I see those arrogant bastards freaking out and desperately trying to regain control of a situation which they have already forever lost I feel that I have made a difference, however small, and that is really an immense joy for me.
The Saker
Understand you are proud but as a older user I would hate to come to grips with a TOR browser to enter the dark web to get to your site.
So crossing my fingers that the dangerous times clears up and those arrogant bastards lose their edge soon all over the world.
@ Bizantura:
Those were precisely my thoughts when I watched last Cross Talked episode on this subject, and Peter say something along the lines; “they won’t succeed because the internet will always be there.”
And I was thinking: will it? I really don’t fancy navigating the “dark dungeons” of TOR to bypass censorship firewalls to access my favorite sites.
Just some days ago there were calls from Merkel to bring tighter “regulations” for social media and sites that spread “fake-news.” This is not a good development, like, at all. :/
Then shortly after we had that shameful legislation passed by the EU Parliament:
EU Declares War On “Fake News,” Votes To Counter “Propaganda” Critical Of Its Policies
“[..] Now, the European Union has also effectively declared war on anti-establishment information as a wave of populism threatens the super-state’s survival. German Chancellor Angela Merkel has now joined Obama in speaking out against “fake news,” saying that such “misinformation” was manipulating public opinion on the internet. She also said that the growth of movements critical of her policies had been caused by these “fake” sites, saying “we must confront this phenomenon and if necessary, regulate it.”
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/11/eu-declares-war-fake-news-votes-counter-propaganda-critical-policies.html
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^ It’s amazing to witness when they want something done that’s is to their benefit they get it done in record time. Oh… but when it comes to things like Brexit, they’ll tell us – the deplorable lowly peasants – that Brexit is such a “complicated process” that it’ll take years if not decades to achieve….
-TL2Q
Alot of my favorite sites are on this list. Great minds apparently all think alike… Must peruse the list for new reading material lol
Having already lived through one Cold War, I really do NOT appreciate this bullshit. And regardless of who started the last Cold War, it’s clear that this one was entirely fabricated by the West- most likely to cast blame on/mask their own declining economy, standard of living, eroding democracy and their growing inequality. This turn of US history is disgusting and utterly despicable.
Just about the only similarity I see between Stalin and Putin is this: both have explicitly stated that the state they run will never again be the site of invasion i.e. they will do whatever it takes to prevent the USSR/Russia from being invaded again. Obama was a fool to have been gulled into such stupidity as the Tskhinvali attack and the Ukraine coup d’etat and somehow I don’t think Trump has the intelligence to see that fact- I think somebody will inform him of the profits to be made form having a low-grade level of tension with Russia and/or other “security partners.”
TO MODERATOR
Delete my last comment pls, I misread the post, sorry
“I have requested a deletion on your behalf. – fk mod”
Makes up for those dark days after Charlie Hebdo false flag. congratulations. now it is easier to stand together with known allies.
Yes,I feel its an honor for you to be on that list too.But the most ironic name on the list. As a “fake news” site is “Wikileaks”. All they do is publish “actual” emails and reports that are leaked to them.They don’t give opinions on the “rightness or wrongness” of the actions in those emails and reports.That is left to the readers to decide on. And so can’t be “accused of “making things up” So how they could be claimed as a “fake news” site is astonishing.And goes to show the low level of thinking in the US deep state.
Have you noticed that Breitbart News is not in “the list”?
Also, I would like you to consider, with respect to COINTELPRO work, if it would not be convenient that a web site would be listed in order to gain confidence from possible new or old commenters who could have suspected the site in the past?
“Have you noticed that Breitbart News is not in ‘the list’?”
Not all is lost. Beware of early judgment. They explicitly call The List “An Initial Set of Sites That Reliably Echo Russian Propaganda”
Well, but, taking into account what some commenters ( WizOZ one of them ) said in the last analysis by The Saker, about the possibility that the Trump´s presidency were no more than a trick to gain time and reevaluate strategy to attack in a context of lose-lose for the US at every front of the World Wide Confrontation, and taking into account that several sites which supported fiercely the Trump presidency has been listed along with others which did not make it in that list, it would be a good intend to continue brainwashing and confusing people by directing them to these alternative sites through a black list</i< that even my neighbour babushka know in the internet era is like a call sign for all to go to these sites indeed?
Another possibility for Breitbart News to not be there, could well be becuase of being a quite bigger project for Informational War, and, taking into account that at least two possible advisers of the coming Trump´s presidency could be two former persons at the very front of this site, one wonders if this site has been retained apart from the listing issue to give it a patina of orthodoxy in order to have it branded, as some had pointed out, as the New State Officiall Buletin or official site as has been the case with RT and Sputnik in relation to Russia.
What is for sure is that in front of a clearly increasing awareness by an increasing number of people about the MSM bias/lies, a new age of information is to come, and so, obviously, TPTB are not so stupid so as to not having already their eggs put in that basket. Add to this the usual smoke and mirrors coming form the organs of control ( three letters agencies and NSC ) and the path to misrepresentation, broadcasting of confusing messages and impersonation is served.
In this context, and as a proof that this is an all out war amongst two factions, comes the weird news about CNN broadcasting by error 30 minutes of hard porn at Thanksgiving night…An inside job to contribute more to the totally discredit of the usual MSM to then be substituted by others?
Because, as the article linked below by another commenter, I do not think for a moment that after the official discrediting on the usual MSM all is turning to pink color about the alternative media and that a new age of awareness and conciousness is in the way, as has been intended to make us believe even by some commenters in this blog for already quite a time. This only is a paradigm change, if this will be for better or for the worst, still is to be tested.
For starters, there are a bunch of people already banned over there in all the alternative media because of their independence of thinking/ideology. So, I am quite sceptic with this so called renaissance.
I wouldn’t be so pessimistic. In East Germany the Stasi were eventually mostly converted or demoralised in their service to totalitarianism by their own silly surveillance work. eg “The lives of others” movie portrays this. The same is happening with the human beings in the NSA who ultimately are mostly good and intelligent people, even if psychopaths are selected for upper managerial positions. The movie “Snowden” exhibits this.
BB is a Zio-rag, always pushing Israel and for war on Iran.
It coopted the conservative backlash by backing Trump, but it leaks its cultural iberal agenda (for the US) routinely.
Sometimes this is so egregious – like the anti-Russian op-Ed from an Isrseli porn kingpin and Zio-fascist – I have to wonder if there isn’t some deliberate sabotage at editorial level going on.
I mean, how would a piece of trash like this go down with the Evangelicals? Or real conservatives?
Which again makes me suspect Bannon is not quite the ‘Israel-Firster’ he’s staunchly claimed to be.
My guess is there is something of an internal battle going on between Zio-cons and Zio-mods to ‘win’ the Trump mandate.
Strange a Navy vet like Bannon would support the aspirations of an ‘ally’ that attacked the U.S. Liberty.
The plot thickens….
Who cares about Breitbart News? After all it’s just motley crew of many kind of people from ultra nazies to libertarians to GWB republicans.
Breitbart is important here because Steve Bannon, the executive chairman, has been chosen as Trump’s chief strategist. So, the omission of Breitbart is perhaps a little more complicated…
Not to mention that M. Flynn was in charge of Big Jorunalism at Breitbart news, that M.Flynn coauthored a book with M. Ledeen on “How to win the war on Islamic Extermism and its Allies” where they were saying that what was needed is to fight harder Rusia, China, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, and North Korea, and that prior, M. Ledeen had writen another titled “Universal Fascism”:
https://www.amazon.com/Universal-fascism-practice-international-1928-1936/dp/B0006C0X18
Then go to see who is the new president elect and who are his main advisers in the most critical fields, which were the alt-media who contributed intensely for him to be there and after that, tell me “another one on indians and cowboys”, that this one on “the alt-media bringing in a new age of freedom of speach and awake for the peoples of the world”, I do not swallow.
They will need to put The Congressional Record” on the list too.
Congrats!
I’ll keep wondering why don’t they did it before the election….
Heartfelt congratulations Saker.
The Utah Data Center is a 1.2 million square foot enclosure sitting on close to 250 acres of sagebrush. But what does it do?
The Utah Data Center can “store data at the rate of 20 terabytes—the equivalent of the Library of Congress—per minute”
At a moment when the public was being made aware of the scope of the agency’s surveillance programs, designed to “intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications”.
The archive of documents about various NSA operations detailed the center’s Big Data collection activities: the lives of Americans (and beyond) were being recorded and collected onto stacks upon stacks of servers, connected to computers capable of rapid and complex calculations.
As users, we are increasingly involved and complicit with generating Big Data: for social media (Facebook, Twitter, etc.), through algorithmic queries (OKCupid, Google Search, etc.), for the quantified self (FitBit, Nike Run, etc.), and for geolocation (Google Maps, Yelp, etc.), and so on. These become part of the upward streams collected and mined by the NSA, in addition to metadata, text messages, Skype calls, drone signals, and so on.
Based on their’s actions people are categorized POSITIVE, NEUTRAL or NEGATIVE, but it takes some negative scores, for any individual, to end to the BLACK LIST. This is for real, and this isn’t fun, so Farewell Saker.
It is truly an honour Saker and congratulations. It is a long way in a short time from “submarines in the desert”. A veritable amarda of submarines in a sea of truth now.
But you say: ” bad news now. This list also include the following: naturalblaze.com, naturalnews.com, gaia.com, floridasunpost.com, cosmicscientist.com. Now, please don’t get me wrong. There is nothing wrong about these websites at all, it’s just that they probably did not try has hard as others to bring down the immense edifice of lies the Ziocon media has been building for the past thirty or forty years.”
I beg to differ. The Empire is really in a cosmic and spiritual war, the hybrid war against truthseekers and Russia is just the most visible part. The evidence for this is at sites such as gaia.
An eclectic alt news website that funnels an array of articles including your own is sgtreport and its sister website for videos and audios of thephaser.
Now while a lot of wild speculation and some fundamentalist dogma driven stuff gets posted there, a lot of good investigative reports into topics that are just as important, if less mainstream than straight geopolitics, are posted as well. The evidence does point to a cosmic hybrid war – hard as that is for many to accept after decades of Imperial materialistic dumbed down science propaganda.
@ Peter from Oz:
“But you [Saker] say: ” bad news now. This list also include the following: naturalblaze.com, naturalnews.com, gaia.com, floridasunpost.com, cosmicscientist.com [..]”
I have to admit I’m not familiar with the other sites posted (so, I won’t comment on them), but I do know naturalnews.com. Just like ZeroHedge focuses mostly on economic, financial matters, NaturalNews’ niche is mostly about health-news/issues, and since the Hegemon is playing fast and loose with public health regulations, particularly in the US, particularly with things like GMO foods that have been proven time and time again to be harmful to human health, that’s another worthy front to fight against the evil ones.
Ergo; just because they might not be die-hard Russophiles, or posting things that have a Russian connection somehow, it doesn’t mean they’re not fighting the good fight against the same enemies of humanity.
Having said that… godlikeproductions [to name one example I’m familiar with] IS a massive red-herring on that list, as far as I’m concerned.
-TL2Q
Agree entirely TooLegit.
Some sites are nutty and probably some of them deliberately so to muddy the waters.
You should explore the sites mentioned with a critical yet open mind. Ask yourself why is the Hegemon and its MSM so quick to lambast and ridicule the UFO story, for that links to almost everything- as far as I can deduce. See http://www.siriusdisclosure.com and some of stuff on Gaia.com
Do aliens exist? Don’t know.
BUT…
Don’t trust a movement that for years pushes John Podesta as “disclosure” messiah. Paradigm Research Group practically begging H Clinton to be elected so Podesta will reveal all. Look it up.
Same with Steven Greer links to Laurance Rockefeller. We are told “Rockefeller Initiative” is proof that UFOs are serious and real! Maybe it is. Maybe it isn’t. But John Podesta and Rockefellers never lied to anyone about anything, I am sure :)
More reading…
http://www.disclosureproject.org/PressReleaseNov132007.htm
http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/Rockefeller_Initiative_Documents.htm
http://redefininggod.com/2014/10/why-are-the-rockefellers-and-the-jesuits-guiding-the-ufo-disclosure-movement/
“This is for real, and this isn’t fun, so Farewell Saker.”
Off course it’s for real, going back many years, and so what. Think you can hide? Not possible anymore. Are you important in any way as a target for other than the spiritual powers (works regardless of any physical device) can’t hide from that either.
Hey. I’m on several blacklists. Am I worried? No!
I posted the “blacklist” on the Cafe’ the other day, read quite a few articles and interviews on the matter, and the word “Propaganda” got stuck in my head for some reason.
I assume that the video on link can be classified as propaganda. I don’t care.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2sfBYQ92LI
Take Care
Kent
I wonder if there is some way to generate the search equivalent of a DoS attack by generating recursive BOTs echo chambering Google searches e.g. googling ‘Google’ that returns 10,490,000,000 results currently? Like bacteria replicating in a petri dish. This way the data coffers at the NSA could fill exponentially until they implode.
I am sure they have thought of that as will the Cyber Warriors or whatever they call themselves at all the world powers.
This is so great for furthering what has been happening in the past few years anyway: alternative news sites sharing their posts, links and addresses with each other. I knew about some of these sites but not all! It could be like Indonesia where information was gathered on ‘communists’ who were later done away with (tracking all of us who read these sites) but I just think, as I’ve said in the cafe, that the people in mainstream media are very dim now. When I worked on a newspaper in Australia those who got ahead were those prepared to ‘play the game’ by trying to anticipate the wishes and views of our Australian-born US citizen proprietor. That’s how talent was defined haha. When I’ve done media training for companies (I know how bad that sounds don’t worry) it’s always advised not to mention rivals. Thanks mainstream media, another fail. They just keep on coming. And another thing: just how much money are we expected to believe Russia has that it can bankroll all these sites? Or does Vladimir do it himself from his massive personal wealth? That guy is a phenomenal multi-tasker!
I call this ‘free advertising’. It would be interesting to see if Saker blog gets a WaPo ‘bump’ in the days and weeks ahead. Or will the freethinkers and non-zombies all flock to that hotbed of retro commie lies – healthnut.com?
Dear Saker,
I had the same thought as Franz. I hope you will keep watch on your web traffic over the next weeks/months and let us know how well the WaPo’s free advertising campaign is performing ;)
Congratulations Saker! Now it is official. I must say that I am not surprised, it was predictable (desperate) move to discredit anything that doesn’t fit official lies. They just came out of the closet now, they have always had a list. Being there does confirm you have made a difference. I will have a drink to that. Cheers!
“The bad news now. This list also include the following: naturalblaze.com, naturalnews.com, gaia.com, floridasunpost.com, cosmicscientist.com. Now, please don’t get me wrong…”
Don’t worry, this is just the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy" guilt by association trap, for which only the certified idiots fall. Congrats for this Badge of Honor. Expect a significant increase in visitors to your site, as other targeted sites have reported. Free-of-charge advertisement by the WaPo, what more do you want?
Congratulations, to be recognized as a valid source of REAL news by the MSM is the feather, that all online media sites want to have in their cap. You go boy!!!!
Well done Saker, keep up the good work!!
PINK IS NOT THE COLOR ANYMORE
Tura Kurkinen
Obituary of the Liberal World Order
http://katehon.com/article/pink-not-color-anymore
Congratulations Saker :D
Congratulations.
The Beast has got a deadly wound, but our souls cannot be killed.
Now she screams like a mad hound, but her fate has been sealed.
Have no fear, embrace your courage,
Another battle, another challenge.
As you can see on Alexa chart, our rating jumped to 47,715 worldwide, and 19,407 in the US
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/thesaker.is
Anything within 100,000 is considered to be top world websites.
The ranking is indeed good news, even though some of the other listed sites are:
Global: 8,328 US:1,962. or close to that.
Why it is indeed very good as ratings are concerned is that the traffic here are “filtered” so to speak in the sense, that a small percentage (increasing) from some of the (in)famous sites actually get’s here where there is a somewhat higher intellectual standard and understanding as a rule.
We all have to start somewhere in our personal quest for truth, and deeper understanding of the nature of (all) things.
There are a lot of readers here (the silent majority I would think), who enjoy reading articles, and especially comments on this blog who do not dare or want to post their thoughts and opinions due to lack of confidence in their “skills” in conveying their thoughts due to the “competition” of the superior dialectical professionalism of some of the posters.
This, I believe is both an advantage and somewhat a disadvantage. I tend to believe that the former is the most important.
I consider the very “high Ranking” web-sites on the list to be some sort of recruiting grounds, where those who do not get totally absorbed by the maelstrom and never get’s out finds a sanctuary, if you will, on this or other quality alternative blogs/web-sites, thereby potentially expanding their horizons, testing their learning curve potential, and having a real good time in doing so.
For those of you who actually read this, have an opinion on the subject. Please don’t be shy. Post a short reply with your thoughts. Nobody bites you. Please read the rules first though.
For the few of you who knows me (or about me). I usually expresses myself with short comments accompanied by a graphical expression.
Take Care
Kent
As far as I have seen, no one has mentioned the obvious fact that “propaganda” simply means “things to be spread around”. Its origin lies with the Roman Catholic Church’s “congregatio de propagandi fide”, or “congregation for propagation of the faith”.
The Russian and alternative media are engaged in propagating the truth. That is not a bad thing, but a very good thing indeed.
“As far as I have seen, no one has mentioned the obvious fact that “propaganda” simply means “things to be spread around”
Very good point.
Is this one propaganda?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2sfBYQ92LI
And by what definition?
I really don’t care. I like it.
Take Care
Kent
Sir, sometimes it helps to consult a dictionary.
“Propaganda [Oxford Dictionaries]
Information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.”
Here’s a question for you:
““Corollary: when a paper that engages in propaganda, accuses others of propaganda, is it propaganda?” ~N. Taleb
Congratulations! You have passed the test. Now you have been “made” now as they once used to say in Cosa Nostra.
They must think very highly of you indeed to consider you to be dangerous!
William Blum was proud when Osama bin Laden recommended his books.
What can we say Saker?
You’ve finally ‘arrived’!!
Congrats!
Ps Excellent idea about the logo.
‘Abandon Dope All Ye Who Enter Here’ seems an appropriate accompanying ‘warning’ :-)
“I think that it would be a good idea to design some kind of ‘Russian propaganda agent’ logo which those who have been honored by being put on such a list could then proudly display on their websites and blogs.”
Yes, and further corroborated by a frank admission to the effect that “The views expressed on this site do not necessarily reflect those of George Soros” for the slow learners, ha!
I’m beginning to think that this is Jeff Bezos’s / WaPo way of informing their readers of where to go to get non MSM news. He’s not shaming them, he’s advertising them.
As a small contributor and commenter to the Vineyard, I put on my Putin shirt, gifted to me by my middle son, and I write to salute you, dear Saker, and all my fellow Russian robots of thought and opinion.
We subversives to Jeff Bezos and the toadies of his WaPo fish wrap are honored by his fascist bleatings.
I am hoping Trump attacks Amazon for its monopolistic practices and exposes the fraudulent accounting practices of this thief, Bezos.
Meanwhile, it is a pleasure to be among the American brigade firing guided missiles of ideas and free thought at the dolts and sheep sleep-walking to serfdom, cheered by the oligarchs of WaPo and Amazon, master of Cloud Technology serving loyally the CIA’s cloud hosting needs.
Marchons!
‘“Russian propaganda agent” logo’
How close can we come to Boris and Natasha without violating copyright?
Last week was a rough one for me and I neglected to download the list, and now it’s been put in the memory hole, so I missed a good source of sites I haven’t see before, among those I have accessed regularly over the years.
Some on some of the lists were not tha good, and some really did carry fake news, but even those lists are a great starting point, and all the sites should be correlated with other sources, of course. Even Moose and Squirrel sources can sometimes be useful to start checking around for what is happening, if careful to watch what one might be stepping in (and with Moose there is a lot to step in!).
Hey Blue
Copyright is no issue for me. I know the rules. What are you referring to exactly??
Boris – Natasha?
Take Care
Kent
Yes, Boris and Natasha. I think they would make a great logo, recognizable and with a sarcastic flare, the better to laugh at the MSM clowns. I like it.
Regardless of anything.
We are still sitting on it. Right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7jVqok1bqw
Take Care
Kent
While you are reading this. We are on the wrong site of heaven.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l4Ab5FRwM
Take Care
Kent
People need to start compiling and disseminating a list of media sources that reliably echo American Axis propaganda. (A salutatory example would be all the champions of the “free press: that peddled America’s lies about non-existent Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq).
In fact, let’s start one now, shall we….
Agence France Press
Associated Press
American Broadcasting Corporation
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
British Broadcasting Corporation
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
CBS
CNN
Fox News
Guardian (UK)
Haaretz
The Independent (UK)
Jerusalem Post
National Broadcasting Service
New York Times
Public Broadcasting Service
Reuters
Radio “Free” Europe/Liberty
Radio “Free” Asia
Sky News
Sydney Morning Herald
The Telegraph (UK)
Wall Street Journal
Washington Post
Washington Times
P.S. This is only an Initial List of Media That Reliably Echo American Axis Propaganda. ;-)
I can throw in “The Australian” [Murdoch] and the UK’s Daily Mail rag. mod PS
During the VietNam war, Agence France Press used to be a good, fairly unbiased, news source.
Congratulations Saker! Indeed it’s one of the highest honours that can be conferred to honesty, integrity and morality and it reminds me of Molotov’s immortal words:
“Better be cursed than praised by the capitalists.”
Haha, congratulations. I also visit Moon of Alabama and The Duran every day too.
Y’all about to be completely wrong footed. Electoral college will be a tie or whatever but neither get 270. It will go to the House unresolved and by quirks unforseable leave it unresolved for a decision at best in March 2017. The constitutional lawyer and his constitutional crisis. Oh…no…a wasted crisis. You think. Gore lurks.
You Rock, Saker!
Jim of Olym
Congratulations, Saker, for being included on this list. I expect it to be about as successful as the media campaign against Trump. I think the best response to this list is to seek a debate between some of the groups on the list and the Washington Post about propaganda.
For anybody who knows Ukrainian, a commentator from The Intercept caught a tweet from proporno which posted some Ukrainian fascist stuff:
https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/802349094303887360
https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/802351183033614336
Glenn Greenwald complained that the WaPo article was McCarthyism for not checking on who owned the site, but let’s them make anon attacks while demanding the government investigate these dissenters.
Does this point to a possible place of origin?
I really must disagree with The Saker when he says that the WAPO has delivered a “botched and half-assed job”.
I think the WAPO has at last delivered something actually useful. We now have a list of publications that are worth following and which, courtesy of the WAPO, are now given free advertising and a promotional boost.
So what, that Naturalblaze.com says that “Tomato Extract Better Than Aspirin For Blood Thinning And Without The Side Effects” and that they were likely ‘blacklisted’ for dissing Big Pharma and GMOs (anyone opposed to GMOs is a Putinista by definition) and nothing more.
Every little bit helps in the groundswell of opposition to Hegemon&Vassals Inc.
Alex Christoforou asked “Who is the secretive, shadow group PropOrNot, that is now pushing to lynch ‘Russian controlled fake news’ sites” @http://theduran.com/who-is-the-secretive-shadow-group-propornot-that-is-now-pushing-to-lynch-russian-fake-news-sites/
One should have a hard look at the “Legatum Institute” which in October 2014 held a discussion on the theme ‘The Menace of Unreality: Combatting Russian Disinformation in the 21st Century’.
The panel “examined how Russia’s extensive disinformation campaign undermines Western democracy.”
“Anne Applebaum, Director of the Legatum Institute’s Transitions Forum, moderated a discussion with Geoffrey Pyatt, US Ambassador to Ukraine, Oleksander Scherba, Ambassador at Large at the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Michael Weiss*, Editor-in-Chief of ‘The Interpreter’, and Peter Pomerantsev, journalist and documentary producer. John Herbst, Director of the Dinu Patriciu Eurasia Centre at the Atlantic Council and partner for this event, gave introductory remarks….
The panel was preceded by a workshop that brought together a range of European and American experts to identify what constitutes Russia’s disinformation campaign, the theory and motivating factors behind its international project, and ways to find common solutions. As part of this workshop, the partner organisations conducted a series of short videos and podcasts with participants to discuss the impact of Russian disinformation on Europe and the rest of the world.”
In August 2016 RT reminded us that:
“A couple of years ago, the activist Peter Pomerantsev produced a report on Russian media with its own catchy jingle – “The Menace of Unreality” – for Mikhail Khodorkovsky’s American special interest group. As it landed during the peak of the Ukraine crisis, it gained quite a bit of traction.
Thus, when we learned that Pomerantsev had moved on to work for the American defense industry, we wondered what his next publication would contain. It dropped earlier this month, co-authored with the anti-Russia diehard Edward Lucas, as “Winning the Information War.”…
Pomerantsev repeats a message from his 2014 spiel about the need for censorship of Russian media. “A strong case exists to create an international commission under the auspices of the Council of Europe that would evaluate channels for hate speech, disinformation and other faults.”…
Two years ago with Michael Weiss (now a lobbyist at NATO’s Atlantic Council appendage and then an editor of American state broadcaster RFE/RL) he suggested the “possibility of a ratings system for disinformation…to create a benchmark for behavior,” without suggesting who would regulate it or decide which information was admissible and which was “propaganda.”
@https://www.rt.com/op-edge/356995-cepa-us-defense-contractors-media-russia/
You certainly have not have forgotten the “Russia’s troll army” against which the British army has created the “Facebook warriors” as “a counter to what the US and UK claim is Russia creating unrest by sending in regular troops disguised as local militia, allowing president Vladimir Putin to deny responsibility.”@https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/31/british-army-facebook-warriors-77th-brigade
Khodorkovsky!!
I may have to eat humble pie and now qualify my previous criticism of The Saker’s criticism.
It certainly is a botched job -I mean, really, they didn’t include Moscow based NEO -New Eastern Outlook!! Imagine!
Take a look at one of today’s offerings, NSA, and have the CIA correct their ommission:
The Blackmail Octopus
http://journal-neo.org/2016/11/27/the-blackmail-octopus/
I can only assume it was a matter of carelessness, unless Gordon Duff who is a bit extreme, is one of their assets.
Looks like they have inadvertantly indicated where to go for non-fake news.
Is this because they are not very clever or because their propaganda is so effective that the propagandists themselves have been convinced of their own propaganda?
globalresearch.ca, opednews.com, washingtonsblog.com, truth-out.org, & of course thesaker.is … all on the list and all places that have published my articles. I must be really pro Russian. In fact, I’m pro peace, pro progress, pro science, pro cooperation between the world’s great powers, and other rational positions.
This list, the vehicle for delivery, and the EU Parliament’s silly resolution on pro Russian media show that the idiots in the USA and Europe are gasping for air, grasping at straws, descending into a maelstrom of desperation.
The “list” site is registered by a proxy when you do a “whois” search. That’s problem #1. Problem #2 is this is total b.s. Does anybody think that Ron Paul is going to back off or Paul Craig Roberts or Saker.
Well done Saker; I’ve always judged a true and effective leader by who his enemies are and what they represent. Keep Trucking On EH!..Ray
Pennsylvania electoral college votes to be deemed uncastable. A huge mistake to think the 2016 US Presidential elections are over. The recounts show the swamp strikes back. Too much for your wishful thinking head.? No no say it ain’t so you say. Suck it up buttercup. We are about to be served a shit sandwich.
Coming from a site with “porn” as part of its site name!
Anyway, congratulations, Saker, on the recognition for the real prize in journalistic excellence! Censure by cowards.
Regarding Natural News, I’ve never considered them reliable enough to pass on to others (I link to you as highly reliable), but followed them for a while. They are mostly alternative medicine, but because that is under fire from the pharmaceutical industry, which has captured the FDA, they take a critical view of the US government.
With the election of Trump, I saw some increase in honest reporting in Japan, but maybe NHK got word that they were on a list and decided to toe the line again. Putin’s revelation of missiles stationed at one of the islands Japan wants back may have had something to do with it too, but I see they have returned to the sickening mischaracterizations of Russia’s actions and intentions that have driven me to trust only sites on the “porno” list, though I see they have failed to include Dmitri Orlov’s blog and The Arch Druid Report. That oversight will have to be rectified in future versions. :-)
I miss pravdareport on the list or is that site to much leaning to the left wing liberal side?
I think some sort of putin-bot rating system is needed.
Sites, articles could be designated a number of little toy-robot ratings, like stars.
Re ProporNot:
I have stumbled across at least one Ukrainian connection which I unfortunately forgot to bookmark.
This is a repost from a comment at Naked Capitalism:
I am re-posting the following from an insightful comment on the Liberty Blitzkrieg report on this scam site:
“The anonymous “executive director” of the Propornot website, quoted by the Washington Post, was mostly a likely a “senior military intelligence” impostor cum serial teen pornographer named Joel Harding. He is facing a lawsuit over the copyright infringement of Internet-distributed (teen) pornography (Case No. 1:16-cv-00384-AJT-TCB) in the US District Court for the eastern district of Virginia, Alexandria division. This is in the public domain.
BTW, Harding’s fellow trolls have been known to ascribe the rank of Brig Gen to their pathetic troll leader in private messages to the unsuspecting.
No wonder Joel Harding wished to remain the anonymous “executive director” whose laughably scientific work was quoted by Washington Post. But why didn’t Washington Post’s Craig Timberg check this up? Basic journalistic checks thrown out of the mixed gender bathroom window? Details of Harding’s trolling activities are available on the very Internet that is trolled by Joel Harding through his 3,000-odd troll sites.
And to think that I used to be an avid reader of Washington Post’s science and Technology reports now galls me.
There is a growing assumption that the patriotic paranoid activities of Joel Harding and associates are a cover for their Ukrainian teen pornography distribution business.”
Ah but….
Joel Harding is indeed an ex military officer – and quite a distinguished one too (US).
He then began working for the defence industry as an information specialist, particularly in relation to psy-ops.
He is currently director of IO in…Ukraine.
A good article which includes some surprising quotes from Harding, suggesting that at one time, he was himself deeply suspicious of official narratives – especially MSM.
So what caused his complete volte face?
Money I guess – he now runs a huge psyops commanding around 40, 000 trolls and disinfo projects.
Blackmail is also a possibility – which might explain the Liberty Blitzkreig comment.
Or that comment could be in the nature of disinfo, designed to simultaneously hook and thereby discredit uncritical ‘believers’ .
What we do know is well-documented here:
http://mvlehti.net/2016/07/09/meet-joel-harding-finlands-and-ukraines-king-troll-welcome-to-world-of-private-sector-io-information-operations/
The original article is from Global Research, which, oddly enough, has also been ‘exposed’ by the doughty, if ‘retiring’ folk at PropOrNot ;-)
I fear that we have more ex-military US intelligence and counterintelligence officers than what would be wished for the real freedom of speech in the supposed alt-media.
Since almost a year and a half, I think two years already, I am advising to not make transferences from own bank accounts to any alt-media, to not sign in with own personal identity data any petition on whatever published in any alt-media, to not email from real own email accounts any people at front of any alt-media and so on, and so on, since the real list, that of possible main dissenters to go looking for first, will not be published but keep in good guard till the moment come:
This is what the man, who coauthored that book with M. Flynn on “How to Win the War Against Islamic Extremism”, where they were naming as the main enemies to fight Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, had written previously:
https://www.amazon.com/Universal-fascism-practice-international-1928-1936/dp/B0006C0X18
“Joel Harding is a distinguished military officer (US)” – where have you got this BS from, George Eliason’s article re-worked by Finns that you referred to? Eliason does not have any notion about Harding’s military rank – none does and can confirm it, actually. This scum porn addict must have been an NCO at best, having retired in the rank of sergeant – simply does have the required qualifications for more. His style and modus operandi speak for themselves. He’s a low-life cyber troll and stalker of random social media (i.e. LinkedIn) users, his and his co-trolls activities are covered well enough here: http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/brig-gen-joel-harding-natos-troll-king-and-neo-nazi-extraordinaire-part-iii/ri16370
More on the Ukrainian connection:
This writer – by no means Russophile – includes a Twitter update in her analysis of PropOrNot’s legitimacy:
https://medium.com/if-god-is-dead/on-propornot-1908ea8abfb6
The hashtag used by PropOrNot is in Ukrainian and means…..
“Glory to the Heroes!”
I’m happy to read your post. It gives me URL to look for. When you’re on this list, I’m interested. You actually have been declared honest, truthful and worth reading. I knew this before but I have other sources of information now.
I thank them but I hope their thought police won’t be able to close such great sites.
I have a sister. She is pro-Russia, pro-Putin (from reading Saker and listening to me). But generally, she has not been reading much “fake news” (i.e. RT, Sputnik and so on). But when I was visiting her the other day, I was reading the WaPo List on her computer, and when she needed the computer, “the List” was still showing. After some time she came to the kitchen and said: “I saw that “List”, and I just clicked randomly on the links and started to read. I was amazed about how much well written articles that makes sense that are out there. Now I will read much more “fake news”.
It looks like “the List” has become an asset.
I sent them an email :-) thanking them for compiling the nice bookmark list and bringing previously unknown websites to my attention ;-)
They think they name and shame i think thank you for doing the hard work and saving me the time brave slave :-D
Entertaining and informative article by RogueMoney on the PropOrNot likely identity:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.roguemoney.net/stories/2016/11/26/wapost-propornot-clowns%3Fformat%3Damp?client=safari
The Exceptional Empire of Full Spectrum Judeo-Christian Dominance and Western Moral Values, Inc., is facing several existential crises. One, neo-liberal capitalism is moribund, collapsing under insatiable elite greed and growing inequality, poverty and elite wealth. It is about to implode under the unpayable debt mountain built up since the Raygun/Thatcher Reaction set in, if ANY effort is made to increase US interest rates. The ‘societies’, such as they are. of the West, are no longer even attempting to provide a decent life for much of their populations, and the peasants are revolting. Once they realise Trump has dudded them, too, just like Obama, things will rapidly go pear-shaped in the USA, with the rest of the West following.
Second, the ecological crisis has entered a period of rapid collapse in all parameters of habitability for our species. The Rightwing reaction unleashed by the Bosses to protect their rule denies that any of this is even happening, thereby jettisoning hundreds of post-Enlightenment years of scientific effort and relying on the ‘opinions’ of the dullest, most ignorant, or most mendacious, instead.
And last (of the major calamities) the crumbling US Reich refuses to accept a multi-polar world. It refuses to allow ANY state, no matter how great and powerful, to exist as anything but a completely compliant stooge, save, of course, for the USA’s own Boss these days, the Holy State of Israel. There being NO chance that Iran, Russia or China, or even India under a less servile ruler than Modi, will surrender to the USA, and accept the inevitable partition into powerless statelets that is now preferred Imperial policy, this is a recipe for certain disaster.
In the face of these crises the USA is returning to its last strengths-military force and intimidation, currency and interest rate manipulations, and the soft power of Western MSM, entertainment and advertising propaganda brainwashing. The free media of the Internet and non-subject states like Russia and China is a threat to this brainwashing system, so its totalitarian repression was only a matter of time, ‘Free World’ and ‘Freedom of Opinion’ be buggered.
While this totalitarian Big Brother ‘Ministry of Truth’ approach is clearly fascism (Corporatism plus State power) in action, the role of the presstitutes of the Western MSM deserves particular attention. There can rarely have been any group, outside the pages of 1984, and perhaps the Nazi propaganda system, where the values of total Groupthink, fluent Newspeak, reality perversion and constant use of the ‘Memory Hole’ to bury inconvenient truths, forever, have been more frenetically pursued than nby these arthropods. Yet these liars, disinformers, dupes, dullards and arse-lickers STILL have the gall to call themselves ‘Truth-tellers’ and the ‘Free Press’, when no presstitute in any of the dwindling number of propaganda Empires dares question the revealed truths of the Atlanticist Imperium, and the elite parasites who control it. And now they are determined to outlaw ‘fake news’, when they are the greatest fakers of all time. The hypocrisy and the inversion of reality, is absolutely staggering, and symptomatic of an Evil system in its death-throes.
I wish that list would have been available much earlier!
Following the events in the Ukraine in 2013/2014 (and ongoing), it became clear to everyone with a brain a little bit bigger than that of a mole, that the entire established media is kind of a monolithic propaganda machine not even trying to hide what to expect from it.
German media (and its masters) was and is the spearhead of this warmongering and russophobic hate speech.
The nonsense they spread is breath-taking and beyond any reasoning.
The anti-russian stance is severely damaging Germanys immediate and long term economical and security interests.
It took me ages to dig through good and not so good sites and blogs to find some credible news sources.
Until today, the early good findings constantly turned out to be the most reliable and credible:
The Saker, Paul Craig Roberts, RT, Sputnik News, Zero Hedge, Club Orlov, since recently The Duran and not to forget the articles of Pepe Escobar, which always are a good read (Many thanks to Mr. Escobar teaching me about the “Pipelineistan” concept!).
Unfortunately, it looks like individuals do not make it on the list. I make every bet that Pepe Escobar and Ray McGovern – to name only two – are also Kremlin Stooges?
The good thing is, it is not necessary any longer to bookmark good sites and blogs.
Now it is much easier for me to tell my friends and enemies what my main sources are: An individual “Best of” selection of “Pro-Porn-Ot”.
Excellent regards to The Saker and his readers!
Klaus
PS: Forget the (former) German Saker blog (now http://vineyardsaker.de).
I read that very sporadically, it never convinced me. Without deeper anylysis (in my opinion it is not good enough and not worth reading) it looks to me like a personal political tool for Frau Henn.
Good to have here a handy list of good reading websites in one spot.
Cheers, Keep up the good work.
Wow! great list. Nearly all my favourite sources of news worth reading are on the list. The only exceptions seem to be the China based ones, China Daily, Xinhua, A-times.
What a roll-call of honour you’ve landed in, Saker.
Congratulations!!
TheFederalistPapers is in a serious huff at being included on this ‘leftist’ list:
http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/leftist-site-claims-u-s-constitution-is-russian-propaganda
Don’t know about you guys, but I can’t stop laughing…
THE BURNING Of THE BOOKS
When the Regime commanded that books with harmful knowledge
Should be publicly burned and on all sides
Oxen were forced to drag cartloads of books
To the bonfires, a banished
Writer, one of the best, scanning the list of the Burned, was shocked to find that his
Books had been passed over. He rushed to his desk
On wings of wrath, and wrote a letter to those in power ,
Burn me! he wrote with flying pen, burn me! Haven’t my books
Always reported the truth ? And here you are
Treating me like a liar! I command you!
Burn me!
A one stop shop for those wishing to access alternative media. Thankyou!!
Wow!!
Poor us who are being doped into this Russian propaganda!
We truly need someone to be our mental(yes mental) and intellectual guardian; how dare we access such devious websites. Surely there must be something wrong with us, and we do need the divine and patronising intervention of higher powers and their agents to horde us back to the “animal farm”
@Bill
Very well described, Thank you
Slowly it begins to dawn on people that the recounts getting underway are intended to deny Trump 270 rather than attain 270 for Hillary. Once the 270 is denied him Trump is back in the shitstorm. His whole world has devolved into getting his administration staffed. The Republicans haven’t got his back. They stay silent as Clinton maneuvers for weeks into the choicest ambush position. Trump tweets – its a Scam. Trump mocks with – sore losers. Then by golly he brainfarts – millions voted for Clinton illegally. There is a Federal 13th December deadline to certify electors for the Electoral College. The 3 States lined up for recounts won’t be able to complete the recounts in time because the sharpest legal teams in the US are going to spray lawyer glue everywhere.
Are you all stupid..?
Gore cometh
Over at Kremlin Stooge we’re all sobbing because we didn’t make The List in spite of Mark’s articles and our comments that all but declare Vladimir Putin the Second Messiah.
My congratulations to the Saker for your hard work and dedication in making The List.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Msm news is true. Congratulations on getting on the list!
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh I’m so happy for you, keep the good job going for the all world and not just you ,but the rest of the links even many of them do not write about a Russia or they have no connections at all to the Russians, but they just simply inform us how our food is poisoned, how the vaccines are produce to harm our children and adults.
What is happening right now is the paranoia panic. Even Mr.Trump didn’t take his oath,but because not their selected candidate won the election they are getting into a panic mode.
Look at this crazy man
http://theduran.com/ceo-refuses-business-anyone-likes-donald-trump-believes-fascism-ravaging-america-video/
Last week on the FOX News some young lady has confirmed that after interview from the protesters against Mr.Trump came to the confirmation that these professional protesters as Mr. Trump has mentioned in his interview were obviously paid by the Soros foundation and the payment is not so bad $18.00 for an hour………………
Every single petition site named very honorably like “Free press”, “Leadnov” name just few including the sites to safe the animals and Elephants are suddenly afraid that Mr.Trump will destroy the NEWS NEUTRALITY / such a joke!/ all world even haven’t took his office yet.
All of these sites were nonstop asking for money under pretension that they are doing charity work. Well nobody needs to have a degree to understand that who is hiding behind these hypocrite typical pretensions.
They are just coming out like a rats. During the 2016 year APEC conference in Peru / Mr.Putin was present too/ Mr. BIG Zuckerberg had a presentation / I don’t know who has invited him because he is not a politician/ but he had this big announcement that they are going to block the fake news?????????????
Hello?????????
Who is the bigger lier than the mas media? OR is he want to show to the world that we are going to spy on you even more and the truth is not going to be exposed?
Such a ridiculous statement. Technology is already opened the world of truth and now they try to suppress it no matter what?
Last week it was the petition circulating around the net asking president Obama to totally dismantle the NSA spying monster before he leave his office. After I have sign up the petition I have received a phone call with no name, but I have a the phone number that I know who was that, nobody responded to the phone from the caller. It looks like I have already a nice thick file like a book on NSA after reading all of these sites.
Well let them be, these paranoid losers always operating on the base of spreading fear and lies.
They had a very good exercise during the communist regime and they are trying to implement the same tactics after gradually losing their power.
If nothing good came from this election, it is they have exposed themselves in every single corner.
Yes, they are already implementing blockage on many sites, but definitely the young bright minds will take over on these psychopathic plans in no time I’m definitely convinced about that.
Soon or later it will be very visible that who is going to win this battle.
Lets hope for the best future for all of us on this beautiful earth, we will win this battle no matter what!
I have received this link a while ago it is in German language but hopefully you will get the point even using translation, it is a very disturbing document
http://www.christ-michael.org/das-gesicht-des-antichristen/
Saker, we are beside you and we will win this battle keep going and thank you so much for your work It is absolutely precious in these dark times in our history.
It would have been better to link to the english version of the recommended disturbing document, i.e.
http://www.christ-michael.com/leaked-official-agenda-for-the-destruction-of-germany/.
It is the alleged confession (with many factual details) of a terminal ill collaborator in the construction of huge underground facilities in Germland, which (allegedly, as everything else) will be used for first housing and then dispatching a real “underground” army (ex ISIS), which will have to fight germ civilians until there are none anymore; then everything will be handed over to the muslims. How much or little veracity this confession has, seems anybody’s guess.
Damn, that was the most mind f#$%#$%ing link I’ve ever followed. The FruitCakes have no loyalty to their own people whatsoever.
The coming economic crisis is definite. Its impossible to delay it even further, there is so little room for manoeuvre left, negative interest rates are here already as is central bank certified gold bars which are nothing but 90% tungsten cores. The crisis will definitely be an opportunity for any objectives.
Humanity will survive though, just remember to target the smug planners and not the clueless played.
The Fourth Reich is the same as the Third Reich but, this time, the Americans and Zionists who direct these things, have come out of the closet.
Hitler died in the ruins of the Third Reich, cursing the German people for betraying him – a madness worthy of a Shakespearian villain.
Let us hope the American people betray their Ruling Class in a similar way.
This crusade against “fake news” is a bit ridiculous. There is a presumption that unless these helpful busybodies alert us we will be duped by suspect news, helpless to discern truth from propaganda.
Many of the sites are quite open about their viewpoint: It should surprise no one that Russia Times slants Russian.
Thesaker.com makes no secret that it is pro-Russian. I first came here via a link on another blog, to an article about Syria. The article contained some decent information about the disposition of various forces in the country. I found it to be highly credible and so I looked around to see what else this blog had to offer. It took me less than a minute to see that The Saker is a Russian nationalist.
Knowing that one fact allows me to make my own judgement about the content in the articles I read here. Some, such as the sitreps, can be taken at face value. The opinion pieces promoting the Russian position are clearly “propaganda” but they are well-written and contain a good deal of information that is useful.
And, some of the “guest” articles purporting to analyze American politics are … well, let’s just say “absurd”. But even so they offer insight into the author’s frame of reference. And that is very useful information indeed.
I just ate some canned salmon. A bit too salty, and it has some bones in it — soft enough to chew up, but still just bones so I picked them out.
A lot like Saker’s blog, and many good sites — and they all have some bones to pick out and are often to ‘salty’ or otherwise biased, etc.
Western blogs are more like Twinkies or cheap GMO corn dogs filled with nasty chemicals. Even the junk food that tastes good is toxic.
I’m American, 69, self-educated so to have bypassed some of the brainwashing, and haven’t listened to radio, TV, or read newspapers for over 15 years but get my information from various internet sites now: news, history, math and science, technology, semiotics and linguistics, propaganda methods, political science, sociology, economics — all kinds of material. I’ve had access to much more knowledge in the last 15 years than in all the previous half century together.
And now the ruling class wants to shut down open access to keep the people ignorant and pliant.
I’ve long known about how bad the US is, and have struggling against capitalism/fascism since my teens, even before I understood what they were about, but since I’ve access to the internet I’m continually found that many of the things I once considered to be ‘absurd’ turn out to be true, and the US is worse than I thought. There are psychopaths, nutty ideologues, and ignorant fools, and dysinformation everywhere, but it’s an American specialty, built into the structures and systems.
Well-said Blue.
Good to have you back.
You’ve been missed :-)
Thanks.
I’m not sure how ‘back’ I am — and in fact am not sure where the heck I am any more, in this loony bin, or where my personal identity has gone or is going. PTSD maybe — and everything keeps getting weirder. The sanest things I can find now are the cats (house and outside free-cats), and we know what cats are like. I spend a lot of time with and attention to them. Maybe they are all Putin’s agents too. Or bodhisattvas, here to teach us, and the crazy things they do are Zen koans.
So now we have the Green Stein, ‘advocate for peace’, injecting chaos which could get get Clinton into the White House (unlikely, though), to start a war with Russia, while the House votes for a no-fly zone in Syria — war with Russia (the equivalent of ISIS, in EU thinking) by creating a ‘safe zone’. They must be on drugs.
Neither Trump nor Clinton shall be the 45th President of the USA.
The Electoral College unable to vote a majority.
Congress likewise.
After 19th January the Senate and the Congress will select a man to become President.
The acting President will be replaced with Mitt.
The President will be Gore.
Eschatology demands it.
The Saker Community is really on to something! Strength in growing worldwide numbers and influence as I suspect we hold our own leadership positions in our respective nation states. I also suspect we are a courageous lot. BRAVO Saker!
Greatest sucker punch in history in play at the moment with the US elections. Two unworthy candidates chosen. Deep state derailing. Renzi leads the way to the fall of Rome…. iSIS et al cued to set ME on fire. US stalemate on selecting President could have market downside risks…doh. Pitchforks on the street. Army too. Going to be bedlam if elector votes from certain states can’t be cast in Electoral College. Think things are divided now…huh…just warming up. But who can bridge the great divide.? What about Gore.? He is qualified. Has shown respect for the constitution. Should’ve won according to some in 2000. And Mitt is ready to fill the VP slot. Hmmm. How to get there from here.? Deadlock the Electoral College and Congress. Wait until January 2017. Choose whomsoever they like. In total conformation with 12th Amendment and the 20th.
Another psychopath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aETpLQ7WcM
If you are part of the elite responsible for controlling the narrative distributed to the masses and the masses start tuning you out…what would you do?
Read below and find out, then look around and observe in order to discern the truth of the matter.
PROTOCOL 12 (From: “The Protocals of The Learned Elders of Zion”)
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_zion01.htm
CONTROL OF THE PRESS
Masonic “freedom” – Control of printing and publishing – Vishnu, idol of the Press
1. The word “freedom,” which can be interpreted in various ways, is defined by us as follows –
2. Freedom is the right to do that which the law allows. This interpretation of the word will at the proper time be of service to us, because all freedom will thus be in our hands, since the laws will abolish or create only that which is desirable for us, according to the aforesaid program.
3. We shall deal with the press in the following way: what is the part played by the press to-day? It serves to excite and inflame those passions which are needed for our purpose, or else it serves selfish ends of parties. It is often vapid; unjust; mendacious; and the majority of the public have not the slightest idea what ends the press really serves. We shall saddle and bridle it with a tight curb: we shall do the same also with all productions of the printing press, for where would be the sense of getting rid of the attacks of the press if we remain targets for pamphlets and books? The produce of publicity, which nowadays is a source of heavy expense owing to the necessity of censoring it, will be turned by us into a very lucrative source of income to our State: we shall law on it a special stamp tax and require deposits of caution-money before permitting the establishment of any organ of the press or of printing offices; these will then have to guarantee our government against any kind of attack on the part of the press. For any attempt to attack us, if such still be possible, we shall inflict fines without mercy. Such measures as stamp tax, deposit of caution-money and fines secured by these deposits, will bring in a huge income to the government. It is true that party organs might not spare money for the sake of publicity, but these we shall shut up at the second attack upon us. No one shall with impunity lay a finger on the aureole of our government infallibility. The pretext for stopping any publication will be the alleged plea that it is agitating the public mind without occasion or justification. I beg you to note that among those making attacks upon us will also be organs established by us, but they will attack exclusively points that we have pre-determined to alter.
WE CONTROL THE PRESS
4. Not a single announcement will reach the public without our control. Even now this is already being attained by us inasmuch as all news items are received by a few agencies, in whose offices they are focused from all parts of the world. These agencies will then be already entirely ours and will give publicity only to what we dictate to them.
5. If already now we have contrived to possess ourselves of the minds of the goy communities to such an extent that they all come near, looking upon the events of the world through the colored glasses of those spectacles we are setting astride their noses; if already now there is not a single State where there exist for us any barriers to admittance into what goy stupidity calls State secrets: what will our positions be then, when we shall be acknowledged supreme lords of the world in the person of our king of all the world…
6. Let us turn again to the future of the printing press. Every one desirous of being a publisher, librarian, or printer, will be obliged to provide himself with the diploma instituted therefore, which, in case of any fault, will be immediately impounded. With such measures the instrument of thought will become an educative means in the hands of our government, which will no longer allow the mass of the nation to be led astray in by-ways and fantasies about the blessings of progress. Is there any one of us who does not know that these phantom blessings are the direct roads to foolish imaginings, which give birth to anarchical relations of men among themselves and towards authority, because progress, or rather the idea of progress, has introduced the conception of every kind of emancipation, but has failed to establish its limits.…All the so-called liberals are anarchists, if not in fact, at any rate in thought. Every one of them is hunting after phantoms of freedom, and falling exclusively into license, that is, into the anarchy of protest for the sake of protest.…
FREE PRESS DESTROYED
7. We turn to the periodical press. We shall impose on it, as on all printed matter, stamp taxes per sheet and deposits of caution-money, and books of less than 30 sheets will pay double. We shall reckon them as pamphlets in order, on the one hand, to reduce the number of magazines, which are the worst form of printed poison, and, on the other, in order that this measure may force writers into such lengthy productions that they will be little read, especially as they will be costly. At the same time what we shall publish ourselves to influence mental development; in the direction laid down for our profit; will be cheap and will be read voraciously. The tax will bring vapid literary ambitions within bounds and the liability to penalties will make literary men dependent upon us. And if there should be any found who are desirous of writing against us, they will not find any person eager to print their productions. Before accepting any production for publication the publisher or printer will have to apply to the authorities for permission to do so. Thus we shall know beforehand of all tricks preparing against us and shall nullify them by getting ahead with explanations on the subject treated of.
8. Literature and journalism are two of the most important educative forces, and therefore our government will become proprietor of the majority of the journals. This will neutralize the injurious influence of the privately-owned press and will put us in possession of a tremendous influence upon the public mind….If we give permits for ten journals, we shall ourselves found thirty, and so on in the same proportion. This, however, must in no wise be suspected by the public. For which reason all journals published by us will be of the most opposite, in appearance, tendencies and opinions, thereby creating confidence in us and bringing over to us quite unsuspicious opponents, who will thus fall into our trap and be rendered harmless.
9. In the front rank will stand organs of an official character. They will always stand guard over our interests, and therefore their influence will be comparatively insignificant.
10. In the second rank will be the semi-official organs, whose part it will be to attack the tepid and indifferent.
11. In the third rank we shall set up our own; to all appearance, off position; which, in at least one of its organs, will present what looks like the very antipothesis to us. Our real opponents at heart will accept this simulated opposition as their own and will show us their cards.
12. All our newspapers will be of all possible complexions – aristocratic, republican, revolutionary, even anarchical – for so long, of course, as the constitution exists…. Like the Indian idol “Vishnu” they will have a hundred hands, and every one of them will have a finger on any one of the public opinions as required. When a pulse quickens these hands will lead opinion in the direction of our aims, for an excited patient loses all power of judgment and easily yields to suggestion. Those fools who will think they are repeating the opinion of a newspaper of their own camp will be repeating our opinion or any opinion that seems desirable for us. In the vain belief that they are following the organ of their party they will, in fact, follow the flag which we hang out for them.
13. In order to direct our newspaper militia in this sense we must take special and minute care in organizing this matter. Under the title of central department of the press we shall institute literary gatherings at which our agents will, without attracting attention, issue the orders and watchwords of the day. By discussing and controverting, but always superficially, without touching the essence of the matter, our organs will carry on a sham fight fusillade with the official newspapers solely for the purpose of giving occasion for us to express ourselves more fully than could well be done from the outset in official announcements, whenever, of course, that is to our advantage.
14. These attacks upon us will also serve another purpose, namely, that our subjects will be convinced of the existence of full freedom of speech and so give our agents an occasion to affirm that all organs which oppose us are empty babblers, since they are incapable of finding any substantial objections to our orders.
ONLY LIES PRINTED
15. Methods of organization like these, imperceptible to the public eye but absolutely sure, are the best calculated to succeed in bringing the attention and the confidence of the public to the side of our government. Thanks to such methods we shall be in a position, as from time to time may be required, to excite or to tranquillize the public mind on political questions, to persuade or to confuse, printing now truth, now lies, facts or their contradictions, according as they may be well or ill received, always very cautiously feeling our ground before stepping upon it….We shall have a sure triumph over our opponents; since they will not have at their disposition organs of the press in which they can give full and final expression to their views; owing to the aforesaid methods of dealing with the press. We shall not even need to refute them except very superficially.
16. Trial shots like these, fired by us in the third rank of our press, in case of need, will be energetically refuted by us in our semi-official organs.
17. Even nowadays, already, to take only the French press, there are forms which reveal masonic solidarity in acting on the watchword: all organs of the press are bound together by professional secrecy; like the augurs of old, not one of their numbers will give away the secret of his sources of information, unless it be resolved to make announcement of them. Not one journalist will venture to betray this secret, for not one of them is ever admitted to practice literature unless his whole past has some disgraceful sore or other….These sores would be immediately revealed. So long as they remain the secret of a few, the prestige of the journalist attacks the majority of the country – the mob follow after him with enthusiasm.
18. Our calculations are especially extended to the provinces. It is indispensable for us to inflame there those hopes and impulses with which we could at any moment fall upon the capital, and we shall represent to the capitals that these expressions are the independent hopes and impulses of the provinces. Naturally, the source of them will be always one and the same – ours. We require that, until such a time as we are in the plenitude of power, the capitals should find themselves stifled by the provincial opinion of the nations, i.e., of a majority arranged by our agentur. What we need is that; at the psychological moment; the capitals should not be in a position to discuss an accomplished fact for the simple reason, if for no other, that it has been accepted by the public opinion of a majority in the provinces.
19. When we are in the period of the new regime; prior to the transition to that of the assumption of our full sovereignty; we must not admit any revelations by the press of any form of public dishonesty; it is necessary that the new regime should be thought to have so perfectly contented everybody that even criminality has disappeared…Cases of the manifestation of criminality should remain known only to their victims and to chance witnesses – no more.
You have made an enormous difference by your writings. We use your articles in a studygroup about US/Nato in Sweden every wednesday. Agneta Norberg,
chair Swedish Peace Council
Agneta, I also use them in Sweden, but in two other forums. Saker has an impact in Europe in a language he does not speak and he does not know it. Thanks for your work. Our effort is multinational and multilingual. It is truly global.
Thank you for providing the list of www sites worth my time.
Reminds me of the blacklists during the HUAC and McCarthy era: Rolls of Honor, though the perpetrators knew it not.