The Fateful Triangle: Russia, Ukraine and the Jews

Load of BS ..

“What Really Happens In Palestine…”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z5aYqy8hUQ#t=102

And good to see Eric Cantor’s been given the boot.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/10/no-one-saw-eric-cantors-primary-loss-coming-in-an-endless-number-of-shocked-tweets/

This can’t be discussed on the given basis, being that it’s only a partial representation to begin with.

You need to separately talk about Jews, and the Zionist/Kabalist/Freemason white sect that hides behind the Jews and abuses them as a cover. Or as even Jesus said, “I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.”

Or just listen to Mr. Sterling talking about white and black jews, straight from the horse’s mouth.

http://vognebroda.net/v-sluchae-pobedy-kieva-vse-zhiteli-donbassa-budut-pomeshcheny-v-filtratsionnye-lagerya

In case of victory Kiev, all residents of Donbass will be placed in the filtration camps

Snow Bulletin The Junta

11.06.2014 15:53, Kiev

The Acting Minister of defence of Ukraine Mykhaylo Koval stated that the inhabitants of the Southeast will be applied «special filtration measures “, in which people will settle in different regions. This statement has been made at the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine on Wednesday, June 11.The Minister stressed that the filtration camps are all adult residents of the rebel regions, including women. It will identify those associated with the separatists and who committed crimes on the territory of Ukraine.Filtration camps are essentially the same, familiar to us since the second world war, concentration camps, where prisoners were subjected to checks on residents will be reliability. About the degree of bias on these tests and how they will be is anyone’s guess.

I won’t comment on the Saker’s constant obsession of American-Zionists, except to works against him more than anything he says.

Despite this I value this website for the information it contains.

Instead I’ll just say the typical logic of my people on Russia, Ukraine, and anti-semitism.

Culturally (if not in the speech of the more successful leaders), both Russia and Ukraine tolerate much more casual anti-semitism, and in general a spectrum of opinion ranging from non-politically-correct, to outright racist, than do the “leading” western states.

Incidentally, this way of thinking has polluted Israel after decades of Russian-Jewish immigration- Russian Israelis I think tend to be more racist against OTHER groups, such as Arabs etc.

To be fair, there are also extended parts of the US where you could find some truly hateful human beings, and in the aftermath of 9/11, the whole nation was strongly encouraged by TV to adopt anti-Arab racism, which worked for a while, but I don’t think it permanently took hold.

Nevertheless the US, despite being aggressively imperialist, has made HUGE improvements in being racially end ethnically tolerant. I don’t live in Russia, so I can’t say if there is a similar improvement there- would be curious to hear responses.

But regardless, I am pretty sure the STEREOTYPE among Jews, with much historical justification, is that Russians and Ukranians tend to be very racist in general, and historically, anti-semitic.

Whereas Germans, for example, have made a point of showing that they have reformed.

Thus the logic for Ukraine and Russia, of “Let them fight and destroy each other”.

I am just observing. I, for my own personal reasons, just want to avoid fascism and militant racism of all kinds.

It would be nice if the SAKER made an effort to help and perhaps set an example by giving up one or two of his favorite adjectives — small sacrifice.

My idea is simple —

The key features of the imperialist puppet regime in Kiev are that

1.) it is pro-capitalist … and …
2.) it promotes Ukrainian chauvinism and is full of vicious fascists (some of whom are anti-semites) and that attempts to oppose it on the basis of

1.) pro-capitalist politics ..and …
2.) Russian nationalism (including anti-semitism) and Putin worship …
are exercises in futility.

Oh yeah, “Israel Shamir” is a vicious anti-semite who the notorious lifelong neo-Nazi David Duke is a big supporter of. That tells you a lot about his ultra-reactionary politics.

“Kolomoysky controls YuzhMash, the famed missile construction complex in Dnepropetrovsk, and holds the secrets of the Satan ballistic missile, the most powerful Russian strategic weapon.”

It’ a bullshit, and it’s time to end this ridicolous story. Kolomoysky has oly the factory, but the secrets of Satan are safe in Russia, otherwise the USA would have already built it
twenty years ago.

Very well thought out. The Jewish question can not be neglected because the fact of the “junta” have sounded a gossip through the UN Security Council was not only folkloric but too serious to be overlooked.

VINEYARDSAKER: said…

“You should be ashamed of such a stupid comment which only shows your lack of understanding and solid arguments.”

Dearest Saker,

I have utmost respect and regards for Mr. Putin. To me he is doing his best under the terrible circumstances, and I don’t ask more from him.

He is the President of Russia, and sworn oath to do utmost for Mother Russia. This is his first priority, not Syria, Iran or any Timbuktu.

God to bless him, his entire cabinet and his family.

As far as Evil in concerned, I take refugee against Evil in God only and no one else.

Allahu Akbar : God is Greater.

Best regards my friend and have a nice vacation,

Mohamed.

quote “The Russians tried to pull Israel and American Jews to their side, with little success. President Putin condemned the antisemitism of the Svoboda party; he mentioned the desecration of the Odessa Jewish cemetery in his important talk.”
that exactly shows how naive Putin is and how rubbish his foreing misntry and secret service is.
the anglozionists have been the main enemy of russia and putin and lavrov plead with them! are they out of their mind? is this the caliber of russian leadership.? if so then russia is doomed from its own folly when it does nto know how the real enemy is.

quote “The Russians tried to pull Israel and American Jews to their side, with little success. President Putin condemned the antisemitism of the Svoboda party; he mentioned the desecration of the Odessa Jewish cemetery in his important talk.”
that exactly shows how naive Putin is and how rubbish his foreing misntry and secret service is.
the anglozionists have been the main enemy of russia and putin and lavrov plead with them! are they out of their mind? is this the caliber of russian leadership.? if so then russia is doomed from its own folly when it does nto know how the real enemy is.

All plots r done by the evil english race-read dumas interview-they pass the blame2 jews if turned unpopular.
England is head of the family. USA is just the loud mouthed son with a fancy car.
Even after french ex minster Dumas saying that english planned syrian terrorism years ago-rus talks?
england is running a WW3 agasint all non anglo nations ofociurse it needs american arms for that.

Gulf war plotted by witch thatcher, first iraq war by criminal tony blair-this syrian by english rat
only when wars become unpopular the english stoptaking credit for that nd let blame b placed on Jews
and stupid people including hitler blamed jews while it was all along the english parasites who loot.
england lives off protection money from the international criminals who get asylum in england 4 money.
biggest money laundering is done by the english race in london calling it service industry.

There is nothing these anglosaxon creatures enjoy more than hating others, either the poor and downtrodden, those of other races or religions.
anglophile kissinger promised british controlled gulf monarchies protection run by the british -usa.

World war one and two plotted and started by england.

Very insightful, poignant and rare overview of the Russia-Jews- Ukraine scheme! “The Secret History of Pussy Riot” by Israel Shamir was another great hit among my friends and family and I’d love to read a follow up on this, considering how much has happened since the publication of this article. Israel Shamir is one of the very few writers who is not afraid of touching the kind of subjects, nobody else would touch with a ten foot pole. THANK YOU!

Who are the stockholders of this private corporation? In a legislative session regarding abolishing the Fed, the following eight family banks were named as the owners of the Federal Reserve:

Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin
Lazares Brothers Banks of Paris
Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy
Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam
Lehman Brothers Bank of New York
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York
Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York
Goldman, Sachs Bank of New York

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This dog berezaoskey died- It serves him right to die like a dog, because all these thugs became billionaires during the Gorbatchev, and Yeltsin era, who put Russia’s public assets on the auction blockand brought looted money to thieving English in London.. this period of immense tragedy for the Russian people, who were assaulted simultaneously, by the US State Department, the USAID, the NED, the NDI, the IRI, the debt propagation institutions IMF, /World Bank, thousands of NGO trojan horses, and criminal George Soros Open Society Foundation, “system Administrators”, and the indigenous criminals, mob, and thives, and while the Russian people were litterally starving in the 90’s, Russian gangsters were buying public assets worth $ billions for pennies on the dollar, and sending billion of looted dollars to offshore bank accounts, while at the same time were negotiating the sellout of Russian assets to American interests (Bush) see for example the other big Kleptokrat Khodorkovsky: http://www.voltairenet.org/The…,

and British interests. Real dogs who should have been hanged while still in Russia

from— Racism, Wealth and IQ
The Heart of Whiteness

By MANUEL GARCIA, Jr. in http://www.counterpunch.org/garcia04212007.html of 22nd april,2007.

“Since the days of Columbus, Pan-Whiteness has used technology (primarily explosives) and piracy (now called finance) to steal world resources, and enslave and exterminate “colored” people. “High” I.Q. is merely a developmental indicator of race-based physical plundering by their elders and ancestors in the children of the Race Warriors of the White Supremacy Crusade.

The religious core of capitalism is white supremacy, which is why the nations mentioned are bonded so tightly, and why the U.S. Government will often pursue policies vis-a-vis Israel that logically seem to be at odds with “U.S. interests” (e.g., the pursuit, with U.S. casualties, of war with Iraq and Iran, not just for oil but in Israel’s interest). It may be objectively true that a particular policy (e.g., bankrolling Israel’s theft of Palestine — “settlements” — backing Israel’s stonewalling and aggression (e.g., Lebanon) and blocking U.N. and international efforts to settle the Palestinian issue) seems more to Israel’s benefit than to “us.” But, when viewed through the emotive religious-mythical lens of white supremacy, the apparent inconsistency dissolves.

“We” are defending our brother and sister “white” settlers in “Injun country.” Israel, like our military bases and corporate installations around the world, is one of our many Fort Apaches in wild territory, filled with “colored” natives hostile to our manifest destiny to clear them off and “develop” the land. At best, they could work as sub-human machines in our agricultural and mechanized plantations, while being slowly ground down to dust and thence to disappearance behind “Separation Walls” (which actually encircle isolated populations, and so are corrals with machine gun towers — slow motion Buchenwalds), and Border Fences and Free Trade Agreements.

The core basis of U.S. Government and capitalist policy is the protection of White Supremacy Nationalism and White Supremacy Super-Nationalism, or Empire. This is what we are fighting for. “We”, the United States, are the 7th Cavalry, the Crusaders riding to the rescue of Pan-Whiteness around the world. The nature of your life and the degree of your prosperity is determined by the degree of your complicity in this cult. People like Bush and Rove and Cheney, Olmert, Sharon, the Israeli Zionist militarists, and, yes, Hitler was and are not simply motivated by elementary greed, because theft is an act of convenience, a short-cut, a matter of avoiding work. These zealots are tireless, working furiously even to the point of death, because they are motivated by a greed of religiously-inspired magnitude, and this is the compelling vision — the cult — of white supremacy.”
and by “colored” commentators(like manmohan singhs,kamal naths, chadambaran and most of toilet peper of india ilk like premshamker jha and vir sanghvi like treacherous dogs!) singing the praises of their “white” overlords, the overlord ideology and the naturally ordained baseness of their own genetic pools. I, personally, know the costs in career and “earnings potential” that can result from a rejection of work “assignments” (“opportunities”) in furtherance of the fundamental cause (the “Prime Directive,” if you will). Fortunately for me, self respect is only expensive financially, in every other way it is most bountiful.

It is possible that an expanding awareness of self respect — even a popular trans-national solidarity based on compassion (Fidel?, Chavez?, Mandela?) — may ultimately topple the mighty military and financial powers of the White Supremacy Tribe. Until then, we will have to consider civilization an idea as yet unrealized.

October 2012.
Russia’s problem is that it is still trying to find itself. It knows the Yeltsin years were a disaster, but it is not yet willing to find anything positive in the Soviet years, so it is like somebody without a history, somebody born yesterday. It still believes in the promises of “The West”. It still doubts and fears itself. It has become impaled by the fence that it is trying to sit on.

Iran does not have this problem. Iran knows that it needs to survive.

Necessity is the best teacher. Necessity has taught Iran to distance itself from the fanaticism of the 1979 revolution. Iran has so much distanced itself that it is now committed to supporting a secularist government, in Syria!

The country that SHOULD be committed to Syria is Russia — because of the affinity with Syrian Christians and Syrian secularists and because of the need to stop Saudi Islamists and Zionist encroachment and because of the military base and investment and because of humanitarian concerns and Russian credibility. But Russia seems like it is still asleep.

The main strategy of the anglos ( I say English and anglosfor they are unquestionably and clearly the cause of every conflict in the Middle East and everywhere else in the world, with an exception of an insignificant minority) is exploitation of the Sunni Islamists’ ignorance and raw force to be directed at Russia. China hasn’t been a problem for the anglos ever since they managed to turn China against the Soviet Union during seventies (Kissinger) and established trade relation with the same during the nineties (Kissinger and Alexander Haig). China’s economy is firmly in the claws of the anglos.. Russia is in a very precarious situation due to being a major, if not the only, obstacle to the Jewish quest for a total world domination and enslavement. Russia has never had a more treacherous and hate driven enemy than the Khazar “Jews”and anglos stooges – not in its last thousand years history. If there is to be a WWlll, for which the Jews are pushing ever so hard, I hope that the good people of Russia want forget who their No1 enemy is and, I’m sure, many others will know who started the War.

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Britain’s “Bomber” Harris, who led the RAF Bomber Command during its mass raids on Germany in the Second World War, cut his teeth devastating Kurdish villages in Iraq in the 1920s.
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The evil scheming pirate English been troublemakers from the beginning, and they’ll be troublemakers in the future. You can’t alter their genetic makeup. They love to get nations to quarrel with each other, and to instigate war(s).

==============================“If it was not for Russian people you Jews would all be fancy lampshades in comfortable German homes. It was the Red Army who destroyed the fascists by breaking their might at Kursk and Stalingrad. You’ll notice it was not you wannabe Jews more like Euro trash who crushed the fascist machine whom your banks built. Neither was it Montgomery with his fancy shorty shorts who needed the entire Anglo empire to beat one little German general Rommel in North Africa. Neither was it the psychotic Patton with his pervert pearl pistols pretending that he was some kind of Caesar….Americans are great at winning wars in Hollywood movies, legends in their own minds attacking the poor countries, but in reality name one which they have won, with the exception of their Civil War.”

Origin of the first world war-plotted by the English pirates against Russia and Germany.
“The kaiser was absolutely correct. The Secret Elite was prepared to use any nation as a cat’s-paw, and Russia became the victim of British trickery, manipulated into a different treaty that was designed not to protect her or the peace of Europe but to enable the Secret Elite to destroy Germany.”

“The Secret Elite did not accept that German economic and industrial success was a just reward for their investment in better education and new technology. Together with its burgeoning industry, and a brand-new merchant fleet that promised future colonial expansion , Germany was also beginning to invest in oil production in Romania and Galicia. This was even more alarming because the Secret Elite knew just how strategically important oil was for future industrial development and warfare. The German threat had to be removed, and war was the only means by which that could be achieved.
……”and he shared the Secret Elite philosophy for world dominance by the Anglo-Saxon race.”
…….”France and Russia were needed in a new capacity: as Britain’s friends and allies…..but were enacted for one single purpose: to throttle Germany.”
They clearly identified Germany as the enemy at the Empire’s gate and understood immediately that, on its own, Britain could not destroy her as a continental power.
THE ENTENTE CORDIALE WAS HAILED as proof positive of a new era of Anglo-French mutual understanding and friendship that would finally bury age-old antagonisms between the two. It did, but that was never its prime purpose. Pursuit of global dominance was at the core of every action taken by the Secret Elite, and the creation of alliances with France, followed some years later by Russia, were first and foremost arrangements of strategic necessity. Their large armies were required for the eventual destruction of Germany.

The huge armies of France and Russia were integral to the mammoth task of stopping Germany in its tracks. Put simply, the Secret Elite needed others to undertake much of their bloody business, for war against Germany would certainly be bloody.”
In addition to the new relationship that needed to be crafted with France and Russia, four prerequisites had to be met before Britain went to war with Germany. Each required dedicated and long-term planning.
Initially, Germany’s leaders were not overly concerned about the bitter anti-German rhetoric that followed the Boer War. Nor were they impressed by Britain’s overtures to France. They believed that a Westminster government would never sanction such an alliance. Germany’s basic mistake lay in a deep-rooted conviction that ‘Britain could never draw close to her traditional French enemy, and certainly not to her bitter Russian rival’. 18 Like everyone else, they held to the naive belief that parliamentary government was thriving in Britain, unaware of the growing power and influence being exerted behind the scenes. While the Germans were slow to understand what was happening, others were not. Count De Lalaing, the Belgian ambassador in London, clearly realised the dangers. On 7 February 1905, he wrote to the minister of foreign affairs in Brussels: The hostility of the English public towards the German nation is founded apparently in jealousy and fear: jealousy in view of Germany’s economic and commercial schemes; fear from the perception that the German fleet may perhaps one day become a competitor for naval supremacy … This state of mind is fomented by the English press, heedless of international complications … the spirit of jingoism runs its course unchecked among the people in England; and the newspapers are, bit by bit, poisoning public opinion. 19 How right he was, but what he did not appreciate was the extent to which ‘this state of mind’ was being orchestrated.

Docherty, Gerry; MacGregor, James (2013-07-04). Hidden History: The Secret Origins of the First World War (Kindle Locations 1165-1177). Mainstream Publishing. Kindle Edition.

” is this true?
“it is nevertheless enormously revealing. The Jews recruited peasant girls in Polish and Russian villages, usually under false pretenses, and transported them to brothels in Turkey, Egypt, and other parts of the Middle East; to Vienna, Budapest, and other major cities in the Austro-Hungarian Empire; and as far away as New York, New Orleans, and Buenos Aires. This Jewish trade in Slavic women naturally caused a great deal of hatred against the Jews by the Slavs, and this hatred broke out in pogroms and other popular actions against the Jews over and over again.

One would believe from the works of Mr. Spielberg and other Jewish propagandists that the hatred the Slavs bore against the Jews was based only on religious bigotry and that the Jews were completely innocent and inoffensive. One fascinating fact which Bristow’s book reveals is that the center of the Jewish trade in Polish girls was in a little town called Oswiecim. The German name for this town was Auschwitz.”

the jews had been evicted first time ever in europe by the english in 1191AD by another war criminal so called richard the lion –.
ofocurse the jews knew that the english were responsibel for spread of anti jews feeling in the whole of europe starting from 1192 Ad when those starving masses of england spread to continet on way to crusade so that the ,u mpen propletariat of europe(which was england and still is) could help themselves with looting of other nations-they tried to loot constanipole a christian bastian.
but the jews needed someone for protection and as then it was then that england lives off-as it does now pn protecion racket-you bring stolen wealth to england and we will support and protect you from your law of your land.”

Israel is the center of attraction not the center of action. that is what most call the british empire from 1650 AD to today. and what role israel plays is in fact distraction

very true -in fact so called jewsih lobby” power is a propaganda done by the english race to hide thier nefarious iterference in the american ploicy to uinflunce american domestic and foreing policy for the benefit of england.

“Today when we confront this scheme and the tools of this scheme, I want you to recall the Zionist movement – those who made “Israel” – this usurping entity. Who said that they were a group who wanted to come to Palestine? They were a group who wanted to have a state in any place in the world. Argentine was one of their choices. Uganda was another. I think that Yemen too was one of these choices as well as Palestine.
It was the English who brought the Zionist Movement to Palestine. It was international colonialism and world hegemony…call it whatever you want.”

one of the most t suprising thing is the enemy between muslims and jews which did not exist for thousand of years untill the end of 19th century. in fact there was no reason to because jews were in high positions in muslims kingdoms and considered not very different.

If you closley see then you will discover that jews are what muslims would have been if the muslims had bene in less number.
muslims traiditon is that of a jew.
both do circumcision
both have sabath
both pray with heads covered and moving to and fr
both are fantatic and their gods are jealous.
both observe halal
both use the same artisan class that hte jews did.
to talk of christian judiaism is a fraud created in last 50 years-in fact the chrisitans and jews never got along. only the non chrisitan protestants english pirates for whom religion is stolen money did get along with jews that too lately.

All of this backing and forthing about Jews – Ukrainian, Russian, Israeli –, and their alliances; let’s think for a moment. For centuries Jews [Sephardic, Mizrahi], Muslims, Christians, and other, lived together not only peacefully but cooperated, creating the basis for what ultimately evolved into modern science, philosophy, agriculture …

The issue, today, isn’t a lack of inter-faith religious understanding, but rather an increasingly hierarchical power structure and the emergence of billionaire geopolitical ‘deciders’, amongst whom there happen to be quite a number of members who adhere to Jewish tribal culture, primarily European and US American, largely of Khazar descent. Though, of course, there are plenty of Christians, Muslims and agnostics among the lot, as well.

Following is an article which, for me, constituted powerful ‘ah, ha’ moment. The global power structure as described by Ismael Hossein-Zadeh is THE problem. Are we not wasting energy by squabbling over what amount to side issues, such as opinions held by Russian and Israeli Jews, amongst so much other relative trivia?

We the people, worldwide, of all faiths and ethnicities, need to join together, use our imaginations, to undermine / turn around what has become a global wealth extraction mechanism which is hard-wired ultimately to destroy life on earth. The political turmoil surrounding the takeover of Ukraine is but a demonstration of the nature of the process. And the people at the tip-top of global power would like nothing better than that we continue to focus on details.

WW III: More Interclass Than International
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To Anonymous 11 June, 2014 13:57

In all fairness, what is anti semitism?

As I skimmed the article, whether you agree with its points or not, one thing jumps off the page: the amount of wealthy powerful individuals who are in charge, be it Russia or Ukraine, who ALSO HAPPEN TO BE JEWISH. Is it not the same in the USA, to a degree?

USSR had an incredible number of dignitaries and celebrated members of elite, cultural and otherwise who were Jewish – and everyone knew it. Certainly didn’t keep them from fame or money or power, did it?

I find it a curious double standard, myself, that although racism and tribalism are a common thing almost everywhere in the world- this is human race, after all, it’s always anti semitism that pops out on top – and if you look at the stats of the rich and powerful, the Jewish are very well off, indeed.

So, discuss. Am I wrong?

We are past Peak Jew.

Their international empire is crumbling, and peace, freedom and prosperity will increase for a time, until the next human catastrophe breaks out, likely over scarce resources.

The rank-and-file Jew can do much to soften the landing by speaking out against the psychopaths at the top of their hierarchy. No one should carry eternal enmity against a people (as in the doctrine of Amalek), we should only oppose Jews for what they do in the here-and-now.

We should be willing to stand with the national Jews in Israel while at the same time denude the international Jews of their techno-tyrannical tools.

I think Putin knows very well what impact the Jews had on modern Russian history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIeYoF1VhHc

“Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish 80-85 %”

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The Wend

This article clarifies a lot about the S-300s. And it’s very hard to actually come across facts these days.

What it does show is a balancing act on the part of Putin, much like Kissinger’s balancing act during the Iran-Iraq war: Both of you fight, both of you lose.

What is strange is that you (Putin/Russians) help them build nuclear plants that can later be, potentially, far more deadly than the S-300s to Israel.

The article shows something that should be obvious to all by now. In Russia Orthodox Christian come first, Jews come second, Islam third, then Catholics, Atheist next…
Iran is Shi’ite Muslim, Armenians come next, then Sunnis, then Jews/Christians, then the Wahhabi, then opposing Shi’ite clergy…
In the USA, atheist come first, then Jews, then Christians, then Islam, last I guess are those poor Sikhs who are assumed to be Muslim.

Putin is first and foremost for Russia, Nasrallah is first and foremost for his Shias of Lebanon, etc etc etc

Obama is blamed as being for the 1%ers. After everything is put in context, what’s so wrong with that?

forgot to sign off

mindfriedo

@mindfriedo:Something else, since you don’t seem to be interested at all.

That is so uncalled for! I wish you had a hidden camera to observe what I did in the last 48 hours. If you had you would have understood that I only had 24 hours in one day when I would need at least 48.

And no, I cannot recommend a good source on Iraq. Sorry!

The Saker

Saker,

Maybe the thing to do is let the damned trolls HAVE this thread!

Must be the keyword Shamir — can’t you just see them madly typing away. The IDF Keyboard Kommandos!

Got partway in and revulsion just overtook me — I apologise to any decent people who commented here but I refuse to wade in any deeper. Blech!

Finally managed to get my credit card to work. Have donated a small amount, will try to keep it recurring.

Still not sure if it went through. Will call my bank in the morning to check.

Keep up the good work

Mindfriedo

@mindfriedo:Twice there has been an attack on Samarra, and twice repulsed. The Shia line is being stretched thin.

My friend, believe me, I share your frustration. I wish I have more time and more hours in a day. Tell you what: can YOU write up a summary of what is going on in Iraq? If yes, I will post it here. Deal?

Also, and just to reassure you: I am absolutely sure that should things get really bad, both Iran and Hezollah will send in forces to protect the Shia. Iran probably covertly, Hezbollah probably overtly. The problem seems to be that the government forces are run by incompetent officers, this does not mean that the Shia in Iraq don’t have the right guys – because they definitely do. Al Sadr is still in Iran, iirc, but even from there he can make a few calls and before we know it you are going to have a lot of very well trained and very well equipped folks suddenly showing up from out of the blue.

Hang in there – there is no way the al-Qaeda crazies can stand up to the Shia!

So think about my offer of writing a summary overview of what has happened and upon my return (Sat) I will post it.

Kind regards,

The Saker

I wrote this before I noticed the Saker is back. Keep that in mind.

This thread has gotten out of hand. The Saker is probably on vacation and cannot intervene. We have a saying: when the cat is not at home, the rats dance on the table.

I see whole nations named and condemned. I urge people to see the difference between a people and the elite/elites that control it. In the case of the UK, consider that Empire starts at home. The people must be domesticated before the Empire can be built. Same with every other Empire. There is a big difference between Jews and their elites. Same with Americans and their elites. Europeans still rebel as best they can against Brusselles Empire-building, but not successfully. Barroso/Burroso once said in public that the EU was an “Impire”, as he called it. Yes, there are lots of imps in Brusselles.

Every nation has a domestic elite. These different elites sometimes have short-term or long-term alliances. That is what we see in the Western world today, but also in other countries.

Blaming the Jews serve two purposes:

1. The other elites are left in peace. We don’t even notice them.
2. A little controlled anti-semitism encourages emigration to Israel.

In other words, extreme nationalists are being had.

I thank Israel Shamir for his valuable contribution.

Wow, the trolls are our hot and heavy on this one… lol

So who benefits from crashing Ukraine? What are the assets which are wanted?

1. Limiting Russia’s ability to project force in the Med. by taking away the port in Crimea… that obviously failed so enough on that.

2. Monsanto, Dupont, General Foods, etc. (aka Rockefeller interests) are strugling to get their GMO poison into the EU. Getting a hold of some of Europe’s best arable land in western Ukr. Then they can grow what they want and have a much better chance at flooding the market in the EU with crap.

3. Gas!!! (both Rothechilde and Rockefeller interests involved) Current price for nat. gas for Ukr. from Gazprom is around 13.74 1000/cf. previously at a discount price of 7.6. Gas projects in Israel’s Leviathan field currently are at a break even of 14.2 (source Goldman) after conversion to LNG in Cyprus and shipped to EU. Now you have to add in the raising cost of asset protecting in the Med. which will add to this price. Currently Israel is purchasing hardware in the cost of billions for protecting those assets.

Since things are not going well in Ukr. for killing the gas flow, Woodside(Aus.) has pulled out for a 30% stake in Leviathan.

Also, you can not discount the desire of shale gas by several players in Ukr. (Chevron and Royal Dutch Shell) which need the market price for gas to rise above 15(est.) to break even.

Back to Leviathan. There is no other viable market for Israel’s gas outside of the EU. Yes they can get a better price in Japan but there are competing interests that do not make it feasable currently. Just won’t be able to compete with Aus., US, and Russia.

So, does Israel have an interest in the destablisation of Ukr.? to the tune of billions already expended and in billions of furture profits.

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so you might ask then why are some in Israel snuggling up to Russia? simply a fallback option and access to inside info. They always have a hand in both sides for whatever opportunity arrises.

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Saker, hope you had a nice break.

Zionists are everywhere and that’s the problem. They pull the strings of all leaders, let them do their wars for them, then let them fight each other while watching and smiling. The world is doomed.

What a complex mess the Jews are embroiled in…
and Israel Shamir, you are too cynical for my good taste.
Jews only siding with the powerful, phewt, what a silly and crude generalisation.

G’day,

Part I
Israel Shamir says:
‘the hoax has made the front pages, while its debunking was published on the back pages.’ Since Jews control the mass media the publication of this hoax and Obama and Kerry’s endorsement of it on front pages and placement of the debunking on the back pages, signifies the real Judaic position on the issue. The reason for that is fairly obvious. This disinformation dissemination and obfuscation of the truth is designed to conceal the fact that the Kiev COUP, like the Bolshevik COUP against the Russian people in 1917, is a Judaic construction. Both anti-Russian coups have been presented to the world as “revolutions” but in reality they were Jewish coups, By their fruits you shall know them. Both coups were achieved with violence and both were followed by massacres of Russians and Russian sympathisers. For some general background see: JEWS AND COMMUNISM – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/JEWS-AND-COMMUNISM.shtml

The fact that Jews just “happen” to emerge as the leaders of the new Junta government and get appointed to governorships is totally consistent with what happened in 1917 when Jews fooled many Russian Christians into supporting them or at least not opposing them whereupon, according to Alexandr Solzhenitsyn, they proceeded to torture and kill some 66 million Russian Christians before the Georgian Jew, Stalin was removed, reputedly by other Jews. Stalin and the Jew Kaganovich also murdered at least seven million Ukrainian Christians, mostly by starvation during the Holodomor. In contrast, largely due to Allied bombing causing shortages of food and medicines etc, some 271,304 Jews died from disease, malnutrition and starvation in German internment work camps during WWII. That statistic pales in comparison to the Jews’ achievements in Russia does it not?

The problem with human history in our era, including the history of this Kiev Coup, is that Jews control the narrative, not only because they control (and did throughout the 20th century) all relevant “Western” governments and news media, but also they control general education, entertainment, academia, science funding and publishing, so that very little truth percolates through to the general public. IF the truth was widely and clearly understood, Putin would not have to pretend that Jews are his best friends because Russians would KNOW what the Bolshevik Jews did to their ancestors. Ditto for Ukrainians. An example: I have an allopathic doctor friend whose parents migrated from Kiev to Australia in the 1950s and who returns to visit relatives from time to time. She is rabidly anti-Russian and has no understanding that the Holodomor and its aftermath were Jewish pogroms of Ukrainian Christians, NOT the work of Russian Christians. That misunderstanding fuels her virulently anti-Putin attitude and she is not open to discussion on the subject.

For some background on the Bolshevks Jews see eg the related articles listed in: Do Americans Face a Red Terror? -http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Do-Americans-Face-a-Red-Terror.shtml

Blessings
Ron