(mistakenly but appropriately attributed to) Hermann Göring
The culture wars in Banderastan are in full swing. Most of you know that Ukie historiography is, shall we say, ‘peculiar’. It ranges through a compelte re-writing of the history of the territory which after 1991 was called the “Ukraine”, but it includes all sorts of bizarre claims about the ancient “Ukr” people who, believe it or not, built the pyramids in Egypt, were the most ancient civilization on the planet from whom ancient Greece learned most of what it is famous for and whose glorious descendants included not only Petro Poroshenko, but also Mary the Mother of God who, as it turns out, was not Jewish, but a blue-eyed Ukie. But such wars cannot be only waged in the past, they must also be waged in the present.
Recently, the Ukie Ministry of Culture announced that it was banning two Russian made movies, “The White Guard” (based on a book by Bulgakov) and “Poddubny” (a biography of the famous wrestler Ivan Poddubnyi). This is of course kind of pathetic, if not medieval. But it gets better: the Ukie Ministry of the Interior has announced, on Facebook, that it is preparing a list of 500 (five hundred!) Russian artists which will be banned in the Ukraine because they were guilty of expressing support for the reunification of Crimea with Russia.
Amazing, no? First these noble descendants of the “Ukrs” have openly hunted journalists, now they are banning artists. I guess they see that as a way to become more Euro-compatible maybe?
The next logical steps would be to replace the Cyrillic script by the West European Latin one and to block access to the Russian Internet in Banderastan. Or ban the possession of books by Bulgakov or Gogol? And most definitely outlaw the music of Rachmaninov, Scriabin or Bortniansky.
And in the meantime, the junta is using ballistic missiles against its own population. But nobody in Europe seems to notice or care. After all, there is no evidence of any “gays” killed in these strikes.
The Saker
Thank you so much Saker. However, I am left confused.
Is Ukraine really the site for the original Khazaria? This is what I have read from Kirwan’s blog.
According to him [paraphasing here] The Israeli are hoping to return to their ancestral home to implement “settlements” there.
This aside from their deep hatred for Russia and Russians, and to avenge the ousting of many Israeli oligarchs now forced to flee to Israel.
Any truth to this?
I really love your site and it is the first site I visit in the morning and all day long for that manner. The only site that I have found that is completely truthful…
My mother was Croatian, and while she was Roman Catholic, I feel such an attraction to the orthodox religion, that I am considering seeking out a local church in search of …..I don’t know what :)
Best wishes, keep up the good work.
Christine
Ukraine is vying against the DPRK for ‘loon of the century’ award.
Comic book insanity as culture.
And their lunacy detracts from their degenerate policies and actions. How could such loons also be so demonic?
All of it, atheistic, nihilist, perverted and fascistic.
Keep you eye on the basics—Kiev is a war-mongering fascistic regime with no legitimacy. It cannot be allowed to continue.
And then there’s this…
Ukraine eyes singer blacklist after nationalists disrupt concert — RT News
Kiev may ban ‘pro-Russian’ singers from performing in Ukraine after scuffles in Odessa, where dozens of nationalist activists tried to disrupt a concert by Ukraine’s contender for Eurovision 2008, who they deemed not patriotic enough.
Ani Lorak was due to perform in Odessa nightclub ‘Ibiza’ on Sunday. But local activists from ‘Euromaidan’, a group declaring Ukraine’s integration with the EU as its primary goal, banded together with the nationalist party Svoboda and radicals from the right-wing Right Sector to derail the event. Ukrainian nationalists have been targeting Lorak since May, when she traveled to Moscow to receive two music awards, which was deemed traitorous by some people back home.
The tension has been building up for days ahead of the concert, with the protesters finding support from high in the Ukrainian government. Culture Minister Evgeny Nishchuk said boycotting performances by Lorak “and the likes of her” is “a good and necessary deed.”
… and …
He (someone else) added he didn’t believe that “Lorak’s guilt is serious enough to prevent her from performing in Ukraine,” because she hadn’t made any public comments on the Ukrainian crisis.
“She only went for some sort of music award. We shouldn’t execute her for that,” Gerashchenko wrote on his Facebook page.
http://rt.com/news/177732-singer-blacklist-lorak-odessa/
“He (someone else) added he didn’t believe that “Lorak’s guilt is serious enough to prevent her from performing in Ukraine,” because she hadn’t made any public comments on the Ukrainian crisis.
“She only went for some sort of music award. We shouldn’t execute her for that,” Gerashchenko wrote on his Facebook page.”
So let’s wait till Lorak says something against the regime before we execute her. Can’t get fairer than that!
I suppose you all knew that the Banderivtsy really have a DEEP regard for — you guessed it — opera! According to highly renowned Right Sector connoisseurs, Georges Bizet found the entire libretto of Carmen as he set foot in Ukraine. As if this plagiarizing weren’t dishonest enough, Bizet couldn’t resist the temptation of trashing the most beautiful passages. Now that the Banderivtsy are resurrecting their country’s Higher Glory, they jubilantly sing the true words at long last:
HOLODOMOR, EN GAAAARDE
HOLODOMOR, HOLODOMOR
(“Marche des Holodomors”)
This Saker post actually ended with some brilliance – nobody in the West cares unless some hot-bottom topic is touched on. The BBC has nothing about the deaths in the Donbass – Why not announce that a gay bar has been hit by a Ukrainian shell and show a man in tight purple hotpants rubbing his, umm, arm – in pain. Every English paper would be splashing it over their front page in two minutes.
The wheels may really be coming off the Empire’s runaway train, and RT appears to be reporting a lot of examples. Try these, for instance, the first from Snowden via Greenwald, and the second from, of all people, Hollande (apparently some rats are thinking of jumping ship, or at least peering over the edge):
http://rt.com/news/177716-us-israel-funding-aggression/
http://rt.com/news/177796-gaza-ceasefire-israel-accused/
(watch out, folks, the hasbarat blowflies will be swarming here in 3… 2… 1… )
I’m afraid there are not too many left if they have to be “real” Ukrainians in order to meet the new standards:
Of the Soviet era composers, Prokofiev would qualify as an Ukrainian, however he was a genuine “moskal” born in a village in Donetsk Oblast, which is totally unacceptable and thus requires banning.
Of the Russian painters, Kazimir Malevich may qualify as kind of Ukrainian, since was born in Kiev and is of Polish descent – but his two native languages were reportedly Polish and Russian, not Ukrainian. So that would be another blacklist entry.
Б.
Could Gleb, the Russian team or anyone else fluent in Russian and computer-speak please subtitle this video from Colonel Cassad? I’m in tears just watching it — the pictures and the music as well as the kids — but OMIGOSH!!! The young heroes of Novorossiya indeed — and just children. Dear God, what we are doing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7dqkkZQm0U
Meanwhile, to everyone here who like me knows little-to-no Russian: watch it anyhow, you’ll still get it.
Of course they are right to ban Russian culture because
A. they don’t deserve it
B. they don’t understand culture anyway. It would be wasted on them.
Among other things… culture and murdering your countrymen, women and children don’t go together.
These guys are on a treck into barbarism.
Excuse me, but why the hell is Lukashenko promising to supply “oil products” to Ukraine?
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140804/191699970/Minsk-Ready-to-Help-Ukrainian-Economy-With-Oil-Products.html
Saker:
I’ve been reading some of this stuff for decades already and it just keeps coming. The latest was an article on EuromaidanPR jus this weekend: “How Moscow hijacked the history of Kyivan Rus'”. Per this article, Muscovites are not Slavs, but are Finno-Mongols who stole the history of Rus!
http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/05/14how-moscow-hijacked-the-history-of-kyivan-rus/
Maybe next from Kyiv we will here how Rurik was not actually a Finnish Viking himself.
the ancient “Ukr” people who, believe it or not, built the pyramids in Egypt
Per these folks, the Dniepr River is a mirror of the Nile and Egypt was thus fascinated by Ukraine.
whose glorious descendants included not only Petro Poroshenko, but also Mary the Mother of God who, as it turns out, was not Jewish, but a blue-eyed Ukie.
Per this point, the story is Blessed Mary was a Scythian whose people had been resettled into “Galilee of the Gentiles” (Isaiah 9.1) by the Babylonians. This story has been about for some time. See the Archko Manuscript.
The next logical steps would be to replace the Cyrillic script by the West European Latin one
This has been proposed! It would not surprise me to see it happen at all. The same thing happened long ago to Romania, which used to write in Cyrillic. It was not possible to westernize Romania while it still wrote in Cyrillic.
Hello Saker,
I suggest that we stop using word Banderistan, or even much more precise Bandereich, as such belittling of deluded state does not help anyone. I have seen similar name calling during 1991-1995 wars in Yugoslavia, which was resurrected from WWII 1941-1945, which was resurrected from WWI 1914-1918 and so on… Putin gives a good example, as he calls even his enemies ‘Western Partners’ which may or may not have multiple meanings (ironic included). However, linguistic, cultural, and above all spiritual splits do exist between Ukrainian and Russian people as much as they do between Serbian and Croatian ones, and unless acknowledged, even validated, creates spiral of violence. Stalin either shot or put returning Soviet war prisoners (who were in German concentration and labor camps) into Gulag where they mostly perished. Few survived. Putin dramatically changed that. World notices. Keep this valuable site respectful of Ukrainians no matter how wrongful some of them may currently be.
Regards, Spiral
Ukraine did not exist previous 1918.
It was created by separatist with the help of the German Army..taking lands from Russia. The language is only a dialect ,or Russian from the farmers mixed with words from German and polish . Most Ukrainians are Ethnic Russians in reality ,since 80% of its territory are Russian native lands. Only the west of Ukraine ,from where Euromaidan comes are not Russians but Polish and Austrians -Lithuanians . Bandera was Austrian not ukrainian. so is an irony the Hero of the radicals nazis is not even Ukrainian. Ukraine is a nation with identity problems and this happen because of the brainwashing campaign by the west. Ukraine was created simply by attaching lands artificially from Poland when it was independent and later they got DOnetsk and lugansk and Crimea when it was part of Soviet Russia.
Egypt, were the most ancient civilization on the planet from whom ancient Greece learned most of what it is famous for and whose glorious descendants included not only Petro Poroshenko, but also Mary the Mother of God who, as it turns out, was not Jewish, but a blue-eyed Ukie.
Making up history is a trend all too common with fascists. “God’s Chosen People” lead the way, followed by the manifest and expectational destiny of the AngloZionist USA and cohorts.
The next logical steps would be to replace the Cyrillic script by the West European Latin one and to block access to the Russian Internet in Banderastan
Following the trends of Ataturk’s Turkey.
After all, there is no evidence of any “gays” killed in these strikes.
Large numbers are a statistic.
They sound like nut-bags and that’s what makes them scary. They don’t care at all what happens down south, and that’s why they are perfect in the hands of the Western fascist.
Arthur Koestler becoming popular?
Perhaps they should ban the works of Gogol in case people study them.
Pity a copy is in very many “homes” and many schools in Ukraine.
What also should be taken into consideration is the fact that the actual government is not in Kiev, but in Washington D.C.:
President Piglet [Poroshenko] is still there, but it’s unclear what it is he is doing. In fact, it is becoming unclear whether there even is a Ukrainian government; of late, the officials in Donetsk have been receiving very strange, barely coherent missives from Kiev, obviously written in American English and clumsily translated, then signed and stamped by some Ukrainian monkey to make them look slightly more legit. If the Ukrainian translators run away too, then the American minders will be forced to resort to using Google Translate, making it the world’s first experiment in governance through word salad.
source: Saving Face – Club Orlov
So if the latest orders somehow sound ignorant and stupid, it could be because they were issued by culturally challenged Americans far away from the Ukraine, who do not know that Crimea has never been Ukrainian in the first place ;-).
Б.
whats even more “amazing” is the rank dishonesty, the outright lying and shameful silence of the western corporate media. I have decided that I am glad that the US/EU and their globalist stooge friends are so unquestioningly supportive of the Junta in Kiev. I prefer that to their ridiculous “human rights” and “democracy” demagoguery , which is even more repulsive than their lies and silence regarding this undeniable weirdo-Ukrainian fascism. The regime of finance capital has reached a point where it can no longer believably pretend to be anything other than what it is – a Fascist regime.
Not to distract from the topic at hand but it seems like we are awash in another wave of Churchill’s Great Lies that will never stop as we get caught up in the spinning cyclone.
Someone passed on a rather interesting documentary the other day that may provide at least some insight. As we all are astute aware, we must know the enemy in order to defeat the enemy.
As the PTB that are controlled by the zio-cabal and backed by their neocon and neolib supporters we are being drawn into the narrative that they themselves have set.
Let us consider that there are those that have bought into the official “persecution” narrative hook, line and sinker.
In addition we may also come to some understanding that the zio-cabal wrote this script well before WW1. T^his script has been resurrected and rewritten to keep the masses in an utterly confused state of dis-information stagnation. Those that bought the story, are paralyzed into accepting any/all evidence to the contrary as they have passed the point of no return. Thus they must keep repeating the lies as to maintain their position and/or wealth by ill-gotten gains, if not they are simply labeled as traitors of self-haters of some sort.
If we can only “see” another side to this long bastardized story, we might be able to make heads or tails of our collective dilemma. This may allow us to recognize some of the missing details that are so elusive, especially those concerning the ultra-nationalists and nationalists as they fit into the narrative and agenda of the internationalists.
This info may also provide some valuable insight to those that are fascinated by the World Wars and redrawn boundaries as they relate to the fake States of modern Ukraine and Israel in particular, that were designed for fictitious and prefabricated peoples, aka: “Fiat People” in order to accelerate and subsequently accelerate the reliance upon Fiat Currency based upon the petro-Dollar that is facing pressures from the petro-Ruble and petro-Yuan via the BRICS pact.
That being stated, as simply as possible, please consider searching the interwebz and ytube for the flowing documentary in bold and be forewarned it is approx 6hrs in length. Most, including the producer, have it broken down into 15min segments but the entire doc can be located to be viewed and downloaded in its entirety, or purchased though the official website if one so desires.
“The Greatest Story Never Told”
Signals Intelligence too.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/08/04/cash-weapons-surveillance/
How did you sign off back in the day, Mr. P?
From Libya, to Mali, to Syria, Egypt, Ukraine, and beyond – the West has engaged in direct and indirect geopolitical meddling and manipulation through various forms of force including covert military and intelligence operations to proxy terrorism, and even outright direct military intervention. As the West nears the boundaries of nations capable of defending themselves and a defense is in fact mounted, pundits and politicians have begun framing it as “aggression.” The impediment of Western expansion across Europe, Africa, Asia, and South America is framed as “aggression” just as Adolf Hitler did in regards to nations chaffing against expanding Nazism during the 1930’s.
Ultimately, legitimate claims of “aggression” and “expansionism” could easily be enumerated. A map for instance, of Europe over the past several decades showing the expansion of Russian territory would be such an indicator. However, such a map instead shows precisely the opposite – with NATO visibly encroaching upon Russia’s very borders behind the overt pretense of “a Europe whole and free.”
For pundits and politicians who respond that NATO’s expansion was not executed through “aggression,” but rather through the voluntary will and aspirations of the people within these new NATO members, the US itself admits this isn’t the case. So-called “color revolutions” from Serbia, to Georgia, to Ukraine itself have been engineered, funded, and executed by the US and other members of NATO to overthrow political orders and opposition fronts that oppose NATO, and to install political orders that embrace it – nothing less than what any empire throughout human history has done through viceroys and other forms of proxy imperial administration.
The Myth of Russian Aggression – Land Destroyer Report
Б.
It’s truly remarkable that an average observer of current events can only come close to the truth about this conflict by conducting somewhat extensive research – it took me months to start understanding and there still is no option but a collection of obscure Twitter feeds, specialty blogs, and extensive trolling through comments on mainstream sites.
So as World War IV is in progress, many around the planet have limited access to information, despite having internet. I understand the moral depravity of western governments, and I now understand the moral depravity of western ‘journalists’.
I can name a few Twitter feeds that consistently provide more accurate information than the entirety of western mainstream media on the crisis, and have done so since early on, and continue to do so.
I guess the ‘journalists’ and ‘editors’ are just what they always were, spies and flunkies.
Hope they enjoy the deaths of their children in a nuclear holocaust, they have blood on their hands.
Well they’ll have a serious problem with Croats, cuz Croats are the oldest people on the planet. And their imaginary kings are on History Chanel already. So Ukrainians will have to be satisfied with the status of the second most important fake nation that defended Europe from Sauron.
Imposing an unical thought, forcing people to stick to stupid ideas and shutting mouths with ostracism, fines and jail is PERFECTLY euro-compatible. A “giant leap” towards integration.
Rockerduck
A Christine
The book by Koestler “The Thirteen’s Tribe” is the most popular source for Khazar history and origins of Askhenazi jews; Over 90% of those in Israel are Askhenazi, adopting talmudic judaism in 8 century AD; Khazars were turko-mongol warlike tribes, not semites; But I guess, for former phallus worshippers the judaism seemed the best fitting; All OT is male genitalia obsessed;
Here you can see the map of the empire, reaching from Caspian to the Black Sea – and Kiev is right on the territory:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_khazar01.htm
In Europe they scream of ‘Russian invasions’ and ‘Russian treachery,’ yet only to frighten their masses when needed, for the shouters themselves hardly believe any of it, nor have they ever believed it. On the contrary, they are now bothered and scared that in Russia’s image there is something upright, something too unselfish, honest and disdainful of usurpation and bribery. They have a presentiment that it’s impossible to buy her off and she won’t be lured into a mercenary or violent matter by any political advantage.” (Dostoevsky, 1877)
I suppose these things are normal in the blind enthusiasm of of nation building, especially when it has to proceed at an accelerated pace, and they must occur elsewhere. I am familiar with a few such instances in Catalan nationalism.
Very serious and copious scholarship is apparently dedicated to demonstrate that Christopher Colombus was from Catalonia. They even have a wikipedia page dedicated to the “catalanicity” of Colombus:
http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalanitat_de_Crist%C3%B2for_Colom
They take all this very seriously and they are constantly coming up with “new evidence” supposedly proving these things.
http://www.naciodigital.cat/noticia/42914/noves/proves/demostren/catalanitat/cristofol/colom
One researcher insists that Erasmus of Rotterdam was also Catalan, and he just happened to be the son of Colombus.
http://www.libertaddigital.com/espana/2014-04-21/un-historiador-dice-que-erasmo-colon-y-el-descubrimiento-de-america-fueron-catalanes-1276516352/
Another important area of serious Catalan scholarchip for nation building centers around the demonstration that Cevantes was actually a Catalan gentleman, his last name being Servent. He wrote Don Quixote originally in Catalan, but for some obscure reasons he decided to translate it into Castilian (Spanish) and the original was destroyed. It was just part of the overall Castilian scheming to appropriate all the treasures of Catalonia over the centuries. I repeat these and many similar things are taken rather seriously by otherwise normal people.
http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/1893825/0/curso-asegura/quijote-catalan/institut-nova-historia/
Here is a brief list with links of current scholarship attributing Catalonian origin to all kinds of things.
http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/politica/359658-institut-nova-historia-cervantes-y-colon-catalanes.html
I am sure there must be similar endeavors in other budding nations. Of course, Ukraine is in a class of its own.
The total war against Lugansk is the perfect example of Ukrainian culture. The city center and its villages have suffered the worse aerial bombardment, rockets fired at civilians on clear, sunny days, killing people in parks and in front of public buildings and up and down lanes of simple wooden homes, slaughtering the citizens. We have the horrors on video. They are the iconic images of this war.
It is not surprising that Lugansk militia has fought the most steadfast day and night battles and absorbed and blasted the most overwhelming armor columns trying to crash into the city.
For some reason Lugansk is also the city suffering the most from loss of utilities and connections with Donetsk. Today, the headline is Lugansk is a dying city.
The blood and suffering is the product of the hate culture, the satanic warfare, and the genocidal onslaught from Kiev. Culture.
When I hear of Ukrainian culture, I just see blood, shredded limbs, limp bodies of children and old folks slain in wheelchairs blasted by junta culture.
And I pray for the day of justice and retribution to be very soon.
Just for a smile:
RT used an amusing photo today of Saakashvili, who is now an official advisor to the Ukrainian government!
I’m sure that he has very valuable advice.
http://rt.com/op-edge/177772-us-georgia-saakashvili-sob/
@Anders,
Yes, thank you. I have read about Koestler’s “Thirteenth Tribe”, but never actually read the book itself. Just keep running into quotes or excerpts or comments about it.
But yes, it looks like this is the area that Khazars came from. I am going to tame my “monkey mind” and make the effort to read Koestler’s book completely.
What Kirwan tells us is:
That Israeli’s elite have seen the writing on the wall, and know that their stay in the “holy land” has a limited shelf life.
I have read elsewhere that Israel for about a few decades, has been sending teams to Patagonia in the south of Argentina and shared with another South American country….[I think it might be Peru not sure], and that they have been conducting research in the possibility of settling there. Patagonia is supposedly sparsely populated and has the most pristine water on the planet…..this area has been projected as the ideal area for any who plan to escape from a nuclear holocaust in the Northern hemisphere. Supposedly many wealthy Northerners are buying up land there. eg Rockefellers.
This has been put forward in the last few years by Adrian Salbuchi, a famous Argentine political analyst who has reported on RT. [ I stopped watching him because all his posts lately are in Spanish, which I cannot speak and I am too lazy to try Google translate :( ]
I once heard him recite from the Merchant of Venice Outstanding!!!! Adrian Salbuchi is much more than just an analyst. I had saved it but lost in a computer crash.
But now, this is the first I have heard that they are interested in colonizing Ukraine.
And actually my question was….is there any truth to the rumor that they wish to colonize or settle in Ukraine territory?
Perhaps they have a Plan A and a Plan B? They truly are wandering….aren’t they?
I really appreciate this link to Thirteenth Tribe
Much thanks for that
Christine
http://www.opednews.com/populum/pagem.php?f=Transcript-Paul-Craig-Rob-by-Rob-Kall-Corporations-Transnational_Dollar_Monsanto_Neocons-PNAC-140803-948.html#comment504779Matthew 21:43. For there Jesus addressed the Jews:
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.
The complete original text that is kept in the archives of the “Societas Templi Marcioni” says it even more clearly. But the point is: In that text Jesus actually names the “people”, He talks to Teutons serving in the Roman legion and he tells them that it is THEIR people that he had chosen. That was what Sebottendorf and his friends wanted to know for sure: That the Teutonic, i.e. the German, people were commissioned to form the realm of light upon Earth – in the “Land of the Midnight Mountain” (Germany). The place where the ray would meet the Earth was given as the Untersberg near Salzburg. Hitler’s residence was on oposite Mountain of Untersberg.
http://black.greyfalcon.us/thule.html
Conspiracy theory is quite fun. Like buildings in DC which seems like in Rome, fasces in congress, secret societies, exceptionalism, obsession with religion. It is funny until one do not know how German fascism grew up from seed in similar platform. But. Nothing strange as Britain and USA are ruled by Charlemagne dynasty, heirs of the empire. According to legeng Charlemagne sits in cave inside Utensberg mountain. BTW. Teutons = Tuatha; de Danaan= children of Danu- Vedic goddes of water. All rivers heading to the Black Sea bear her name. For Teutons it is their homeland. That’s why Germans and now EU are so agressive about Ukraine.
http://home.insightbb.com/~kinesys/the_thule_society.htm
@pug
haha thx…I will never forget the picture of this sob eating his tie.
Anyone remember that one?
Christine
Protests against military mobilization in Ukraine are spreading.
DOWN WITH MILITARY MOBILISATION – ENGS SUBS – YouTube
Andreas Walsh said “This Saker post actually ended with some brilliance – nobody in the West cares unless some hot-bottom topic is touched on. The BBC has nothing about the deaths in the Donbass – Why not announce that a gay bar has been hit by a Ukrainian shell and show a man in tight purple hotpants rubbing his, umm, arm – in pain. Every English paper would be splashing it over their front page in two minutes.”
They wouldn’t, really. Those stories are selectively used to demonize official enemies. Specifically, it’s how the ruling class gets American “liberals” and “progressives” to fall in line behind imperial policy. A client state’s transgressions against social liberalism will be ignored because reporting it serves no useful purpose. (Of course, elite control of the media is not perfect and occasional stories of bad acts by clients do get published, but these are the exceptions, not the norm.)
“And in the meantime, the junta is using ballistic missiles against its own population. But nobody in Europe seems to notice or care. After all, there is no evidence of any “gays” killed in these strikes.”
No Jewish objections, either, so they probably have not killed any Jews yet either. A rather remarkable accomplishment for those pravi sektor antisemites. But they don’t miss a chance to attack Muslims:
The activist of the Maidan beat students from Iraq, demanded money and was forced to renounce Islam
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/3458-aktivist-maydana-izbil-studenta-iz-iraka-treboval-deneg-i-zastavlyal-otkazatsya-ot-islama-original-stati-http-russianrtcom-article-43838ixzz39qkfkl82.html
They act much like the multitude “al qaida” spin-offs who all collectively abstain from terrorising Israeli or Jewish people, and stick to the enemies of the ZPC. The Ukraine nazis and “al qaida” having the same zionist masters couldn’t possibly have anything to it, though. ;p
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Document of “bad” internet sites from the Ukrainian SBU:
The list of “bad” resources
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/3463-spisok-nehoroshih-resursov.html
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They’re not going to get far if they insist on banning Bulgakov. ‘The Master and Margarita’ is a favorite of mine, just wonderful!
@Nora,
The only “oil product” Poroshenko will be able to afford is “suntan oil”.
I think it was the Ukranian Minister of Defense that said there was no more money to pay the soldiers after August 1, 2004.
The country is broke!
Spiral @ 18:08, I totally agree. I would further use the example of the defecting pro-coup troops – as the most kind treatment for those young men who have been forced into terrible conditions against their own countrymen will pay enormous dividends in showing that there are standards of civilized behavior still in a world seemingly gone mad.
As the gentleman who wrote about his family’s experiences as Yugoslavia was breaking up, even though it is well understood by many here that the names belong to the perpetrators of evil who could do otherwise but don’t, still it doesn’t make it right to say ‘they are doing worse’ – that doesn’t entitle one to lower one’s own standards, for the reasons you lay out.
It’s not just ‘holier than thou’ – there’s a real practical consequence to keeping the standards as high as they can possibly be. Thanks for making that point.
Larchmonter445 @15:47
I love your mind but the neo-Nasties are not loons, they are demonic Goy haters dressed up in super nationalism and dispensable/occasional anti-semitism like their mass murderous ancestors 97 years ago.
Christine @ 15:47
The secreted, stupefying history of the empire of Khazaria, supported by the most sobering Jewish research, is detailed in The Thirteenth Tribe (1976) by Arthur Koestler. One URL ( http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm ) offers his book reset with only mildly irritating commentary.
Another ( http://198.62.75.1/www2/koestler/ ) inconveniently offers each page as a scanned graphic. On publication the book was routinely reviewed then it quietly submerged.
The point, Jews are not Hebrews. They descend from several converted peoples with zero claim to the Holy Land.
Did anyone see Lavrov on RT today? He compared the attack on the East to Gaza only – the Israelis were reponding to Hamas rockets ,albeit disproportionately. –
I am lost for words.
The rockets were a response to Israeli attacks , Hamas stuck to their undertaking under the previous ceasefire while the Israelis never honoured theirs.surely he must know thisis Lavrov a lackey of the west? 22Z2
Hi Saker,
The quote from a Berlin playwright, modified by Goering, is “When I here the word Kulture I reach for my Browning”
Israel?
Lenni Brenner, a charming, indignant but guilt-blinded New Yorker (denying that the Nazis and Zionists were actually intimate allies in New York’s Palestine project), writes in chapter 4 of his Zionism in the Age of the Dictators, “Mussolini originally combined anti-Semitism with pro-Zionism, and his Popolo d’ltalia continued to favour Zionism until 1919, when he concluded that Zionism was merely a cat’s-paw for the British.”
Avoiding the fact that both Nazis and Zionists were financed for New York’s world purpose, Brenner writes in chapter 7, Hitler Looks at Zionism, “By 1919 [Alfred] Rosenberg had already explained Zionism in his book, Die Spur des Juden im Wandel der Zeiten (The Trace of the Jews in the Wanderings of Time). It was just another Jewish hustle; the Zionists only wanted to create a hide-out for the international Jewish conspiracy. Jews were, by their racial nature, organically incapable of building a state of their own, but he felt that Zionist ideology served wonderfully as a justification for depriving Germany’s Jews of their rights and that, perhaps, there was the possibility of future use of the movement for the promotion of Jewish emigration. Hitler soon began to touch on these themes in his talks, and on 6 July 1920 he proclaimed that Palestine was the proper place for the Jews and that only there could they hope to get their rights. Articles supporting emigration to Palestine began appearing in the party organ, the Völkischer Beobachter, 1920, and periodically party propagandists would return to the point … But for Hitler the validity of Zionism only lay in its confirmation that the Jews could never be Germans. In Mein Kampf, chapter 11, he wrote:
“For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb goyim. It doesn’t even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organisation for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.” [Hitler, Mein Kampf, pp.324-5.]
Oh, and by the way, in Jerusalem in 1961, Adolf Eichmann was paraded in a sound proof cage because he spoke Yiddish. A Zionist like Hitler, he had trained the Palestine Irgún in the 1930’s.
@(mistakenly but appropriately attributed to) Hermann Göring
I would rather avoid to fall in the trap of quoting unnecessarily tired slogans to illustrate a point, the more when they are actually inappropriate:
“Göring is frequently quoted as having said: “Whenever I hear the word culture I reach for my revolver.” (This is actually a line from Hanns Johst’s Nazi-era play Schlageter.) But while he certainly acted like a barbarian in many ways, Göring was simultaneously a classic esthete and a passionate collector of artworks and beautiful objects.
He and his staff collected thousands of works, including some 1,800 paintings. Many of these objects, particularly from the medieval and renaissance eras, ended up on the walls and in the display cases of Göring’s lavish Carinhall palace in the Schorfheide forest district north of Berlin, which he planned to develop into a full-blown public “North German Gallery.” It was the largest collection in the Third Reich after Hitler’s immense plundered treasure trove for the planned post-victory “Führermuseum” in Linz”. (http://open.salon.com/blog/lost_in_berlin/2012/06/21/hermann_grings_art_collection_goes_online)
The Saker may underestimates european elite and media bias. It’s not hypocrisy nor superficial propaganda, it’s typical trotskist mindset : “The ends justify the means”. This is way worse than it looks or sounds : lie is the very core of western european press activity. Nowaday it’s mostly impossible to find in France any honest journalist. Absolutely not a single chance. They’ve become pure propagandists. And as, for France at least, 92% of journalists vote for left and far left leaning parties, the trotskist subculture is deeply rooted in their mental structure. “Whatever it takes, as long as we meet our expectations”.
They’re building heaven on earth, reality has no room in this plan. Everything contrary to their ideological purposes is ignored or demonized. And of course, as they mostly have no positive achievement to prove their agenda right, they just keep talking about how beautiful is the reality nobody experiences, but more, how hellish would it be to go away with their views. And here comes Hitler. Putin is already described as Hitler successor. In some way, indeed, Hitler faced the same western hyenas as Putin does now.
It is well known, for we know it from former KGB agents, that in 50’s and 60’s, USSR set up a western wide net of red organizations to lead the cultural war, for it was already known in Moscow that the West could not be defeated economically. And as said one of them : “I was terrified when i arrived in the West to see how effective it has been”. It was back in the 70’s !
And as this former agent said, “Once you infected a generation, it takes half a century to catch back”. And, as he was interviewed in the 80’s : “Just imagine that, from this minute, we can stop this process, you’ll have to wait 40 years to just get back to normal. But the process is autonomous, once engineered,it’s on its own”.
And now Russia is dealing with the monster it has created, the trotskist-marxist cultural capitalist west, ready to destroy any traditional civilization, but first and foremost, the last white one still standing : Russia.
We can see incredible thing, for instance, Ukies prisoners treated very well. Under USSR, those would have spent a very bad day. Russia is totally transformed. On the other hand, the West became a evil empire, setting terrible wars everywhere (Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Ukraine, Georgia, etc.).
I’m catholic and think everything is going according to God’s plan. Tolkien was a catholic too, and for some reasons i feel his “Lord of the Ring” was more than just a fairy tale. In any case, Rohan king, once under a dark spell, got back on his feet and is fighting back. I have reason to thing Rohan is Russia.
Michael McDonnell said:
Some valid points mixed in with some Anglo and Soviet propaganda. By referencing this propaganda distracts from the point it seems you propose.
As far as posting quotes from
Mein Kampf it may prove useful to refer to several of the translations available, unless you are fortunate enough to have an original and are fluent enough to comprehend it’s content and context. Have read 4 English versions and all 4 read differently enough to matter.
In addition it may be well served if you consider searching out “The Greatest Story Never Told” documentary as proposed way up in this thread. This additional info is well worth the inbestment in time but be aware it is approx 6hrs in lwnght. Surely it is from the opposing perspective, but it os well researched and the info itself can be verified independently.
Be sure to watch the entire doc before assuming conclusions as it fills in many of the blanks that seem to have been left out as it delves further. There are some commissions such as the Dresden incident but the author has additional infos on the website itself.
Please consider this and refer to the post by @Anonymous 19:36 comment if necessary…
@Christine and all,
Or perhaps The Wanderers have another idea entirely (or, in addition to)?
http://voxday.blogspot.ch/2014/01/protocols-of-learned-elders-of-wye.html
@Gayle,
That was a good find and share. For those that may be a bit more interested in the premise of the article, below is a link to the entire article that was published via Haaretz.
Please take note of how “they” have seemingly and completely spun Zionism into the mix. At what point will “they” quit equating a political organization developed by money changing atheists, for lack of a better term other than non-believers, with a religion such as Judaism.
To take the though a bit further CONtextually, how do self proclaimed Zionist Christians that are awaiting their Armageddon prophecies fit into this convoluted CONcept? Could this mean that the zios have finally come to the conclusion that the Anglos have had them in the worlds largest open-air concentration camp, hidden in plain sight next to the worlds largest open-air prison complex? Here are just 2 snippets to stimulate everyones beanpie…
Several of his conclusions provoked disagreement. For example: “Getting all Jews into the same shape and country, even if it is Israel, as recently advocated by an Israeli [writer, A.B. Yehoshua – S.R.] is not the best survival strategy.” Some of the Israeli participants did not like that idea. Granting official legitimacy to the Diaspora would be a mistake, Meridor said, according to some of those who participated. That would be the end of Zionism as we know it.
And in all events, the question must be asked – what do these schools teach? Reinharz is concerned that the Jews of the Diaspora do not know enough about Israel. In the Jewish schools today, they concentrate on studying the prayer book and stories from the Bible, with less emphasis on history. He feels pupils both in Israel and the Diaspora should study the history of Zionism and the State of Israel more thoroughly.
Questions of survival
Pushing aside competition and even hostility, Jewish leaders sat together last weekend for the first time and discussed what they agree is the unclear future of their people.
By Shmuel Rosner
Jun. 23, 2006 | 12:00 AM.
http://www.haaretz.com/questions-of-survival-1.191164
Fwd from Canuckistan:
This seems OT but since both of these situations are becoming so tightly intertwined, it seems worth mentioning considering there has been a virtual blackout with regards to Ukraine. Either the AP (Associated Propaganda) could not provide an edited summary or the Harper Regime and its Ministry of Propaganda and Disinformation is feeling some blowback on both fronts.
This little nugget was found traversing the CBC website and well after the propaganda for the day. The odd thing about this is that it was tw**ted by one of the CBC’s reporters that filed a couple of on-air reports as well and left it out.
Here is the link to the tw**t since this device can’t copypasta it and the article is linked below. Both have only one comment/reply and they are both like gold, or maybe kryptonite since the neohasbara have yet to arrive…
https://mobile.twitter.com/sasapetricic/status/496335073063362560
U.K. reviewing arms exports to Israel over Gaza conflict
Move similar to partial arms embargo undertaken by U.K. following Cast Lead, first reported in Haaretz; Gov’t-approved U.K. contracts – which include body armor, drone components, and missile parts – are worth over $13 billion.
By Barak Ravid and Reuters | Aug. 4, 2014 | 4:56 PM
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.608814
@Boris Le Lay
” Tolkien was a catholic too, and for some reasons i feel his “Lord of the Ring” was more than just a fairy tale.”
Live recordings of Tolkein, 1958 and 1969 can be heard at this site. In the first he discusses the meaning of the trilogy and ties it to the struggle against the elite. Perhaps this might be of interest.
http://powerpointparadise.com/blog/2014/06/lord-rings-tolkien-new-world-order-saruman-orcs/
I agree that the Ukrainian people should be granted some dignity. Many fled to Russia immediately after the coup to escape the fascists. Also, opposition to this war is spreading in the Western regions.
@ Christine
04 August, 2014 15:47
Christine, I wanted to tell you that years ago I went with a close friend of mine, who is Russian, to her church, a small Orthodox church in California. This was a special service related to healing. The object of our attendance was to help my daughter, adopted from Ukraine at 3 1/2, who has multiple physical problems. Anyway, while my daughter was not improved, quite unexpectedly I myself was cured of a debilitating medical problem, which had persisted for about 8 years. The next day I noticed the condition was gone. It was stunning. It never again returned. This wasn’t a “faith healing”. It just happened, as a mystery. That may sound strange, but such things are not that rare in the Orthodox church. Soon after that I was baptized into the church. It has a living mysticism and beauty that I have not found elsewhere.
Useful article that provides info on the Baltics since the coup in the Ukraine and the ethnic Russians living in those three countries.
Объединяться и действовать: жизнь русских общин Прибалтики после украинских событий (To unite and to act: the life of Russian communities in the Baltics after the Ukrainian events)
http://rusvesna.su/news/1407189846 (trans) http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/rusvesna.su/news/1407189846
“…The lesson of Ukraine for Russian communities simple: we should be together and we need to act, says he Andrei Zarenkov: “We must put their issues on the agenda and no one to be shy. Otherwise, if we keep silent, here may be the same. We must not let this happen”.
No doubt in my mind that what the ZPC/NWO ghouls inflicted upon the Ukraine will probably be used in the Baltics for the same goal of isolating and destabilising Russia by making her borders scenes of conflict and terror.
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The insanity of the Banderist Nazis is matched by that of the Zionazi child-butchers in Gaza, the deranged sector of Israeli society that is calling for more and more and ever more savage child butchery, and the morally insane Western elites, turning like rabid skunks on those protesting Israeli butchery with the good old ‘antisemite’ smear. Apparently the entire Western political and MSM ‘elite’ so worship Judaic exceptionalism that they believe that no Jew ever is capable of any crime, whatsoever. When they eviscerate or decapitate playing children, it is the children’s parents fault for voting for Hamas, and International Humanitarian Law prohibiting both collective punishment and the murder of civilians can go to Hell. Just why Israel can do anything it likes and any who dare quibble become the ones slandered, hounded, even prosecuted, is taken as normal, not even worthy of comment, let alone, Heaven forfend, criticism. The world has gone raving mad, with the USA, Israel and the vile scum of Western politics and the MSM hate-machine leading the way.
Prokofieff is as Russian as you can get in terms of classical musical style. Keep in mind he could have defected like Stravinsky and been make into a celebrity + very rich. Also, he was Jewish.
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OK, so why has Russia been so unprepared for the obvious strategy of radical groups to expel or destroy the Russian regions in the post-Soviet space? Where were the pro-Russian groups in the Ukraine? Was their budget one percent of the Nazi ones?
Everybody who hasn’t should read The Return of the Ukrainian Far Right, a chapter written by historian Per Anders from the book Analysing Fascist Discourse: European Fascism in Talk and Text. The chapter describes how Ukrainian history has been rewritten in the interest of growing nationalist sentiment. Note that this was written before the current conflict, so it is not partisan to it.
Anders, Christine, Michael McDonnell
The Internet Archive is a treasure trove of out-of-print books ad journals. Items are usually available in pdf and various ebook formats.
Paul II said…05 August, 2014 15:26
I don’t know what the Russian guv did about your questions. I would suggest researching it yourself and then posting what you find here.
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