I spend all day away from home (and I can attest that driving with a sprained ankle sucks!). As always, music kept me going and today it was the always moving voice of Roger Waters. I have been listening to Waters since I was 10 years old and ever since his emotion-filled music has always accompanied me through the good and the bad.
Today, just as it was getting dark, my player played Water’s beautiful ” The Tide is Turning” and, as always, I had a flashback to the years of the Cold War:
I used to think the world was flat
Rarely threw my hat into the crowd
I felt I had used up my quota of yearning
Used to look in on the children at night
In the glow of their Donald Duck light
And frighten myself with the thought of my little ones burning
But oh, oh, oh, the tide is turning
The tide is turning
Satellite buzzing through the endless night
Exclusive to moonshots and world title fights
Jesus Christ imagine what it must be earning
Who is the strongest, who is the best
Who holds the aces, the East or the West
This is the crap our children are learning
But oh, oh, oh, the tide is turning
The tide is turning
Oh, oh, oh, the tide is turning
Now the satellite’s confused
‘Cos on Saturday night
The airwaves were full of compassion and light
And his silicon heart warmed
To the sight of a billion candles burning
Oo, oo, oo, the tide is turning
Oo, oo, oo, the tide is turning
The tide is turning Billy
I’m not saying that the battle is won
But on Saturday night all those kids in the sun
Wrested technology’s sword from the hand of the
War Lords
Oh, oh, oh, the tide is turning
The tide is turning Sylvester
The tide is turning.
“That’s it!”
[Morse Code:]
“Now the past is over but you are not alone
Together we’ll fight Sylvester Stallone
We will not be dragged down in his South China Sea
of macho bullshit and mediocrity
I can attest that by 1991 we were millions, f not not billions, who really, sincerely, believed that we were witnessing the end of this nuclear madness. Were we naive? Maybe. And yet the emotion illustrated in this song, “I’m not saying that the battle is won, But on Saturday night all those kids in the sun, Wrested technology’s sword from the hand of the War Lords, Oh, oh, oh, the tide is turning“, was nevertheless powerful and genuine. And today I find myself having the same thoughts as Waters had in the 1980s: “Used to look in on the children at night, In the glow of their Donald Duck light, And frighten myself with the thought of my little ones burning, Who is the strongest, who is the best, Who holds the aces, the East or the West, This is the crap our children are learning“. And that makes me angry, very angry.
I think that I understand the historical circumstances which resulted in the Cold War but we all, as a single humanity, we *beat* this abomination. Even though it came close several times, “the button” was not depressed, not by the Soviets and not by the Americans. And there even came a time when true “hardcore” military specialists (for example Marshal Nikolai Ogarkov in the Soviet Union) made a official doctrinal statement that a nuclear war was unwinnable.
And now, because of a sad collection of Neocons with absolutely no understanding of any warfare, nuclear or conventional, we are right back again to square one: a nuclear war is possible again.
One could have imagined that having done 9/11 and launched the worldwide GWOT (Global War on Terror), the Neocons would have quenched their thirst for blood, but apparently this was not enough. They had to go on challenging Russia and risk not just a global war, but a nuclear global war.
And now they are openly supporting the three most demonic ideologies on the planet: Daesh Takfirism, Ukro Nazism and Israeli Zionism.
That such a small amount of individuals would have such a fantastic capability for evil is just amazing, and very discouraging.
Make no mistake: absolute evil does exit.
The Saker
So who created and funded the neocons? They didn’t just appear out of nowhere. Not trying to deny their evil, but they look like a front for the true Dark Lords of the MIC and Western financial oligarchy.
The “$64000 question”.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35106.htm
Try this for starters. You find Zionists under most every rock.
Carl Schmitt is the teacher of this modern day neocons used to be a nazi lawyer http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/schmitt/
Waters is unusual among the originals. He’s still alive, despite not selling out to the Jewish mafia crime syndicate that literally runs pop music access in the zionazified west. The zionazis have all but silenced mainstream music in the west as a source of inspiration and reverted it back to the rubbish it was during the 1950’s.
What is the goal of silencing the real music? I noticed that several years ago.
@Weston
“What is the goal of silencing the real music? I noticed that several years ago”
Because they are not getting paid for doing nothing from the artist and they just simply refused to pay the parasites. Artists like Michael Jackson, Whitney Huston, Britney Spears they have paid very dearly, but the day is approaching and the truth will come out . Artists who refused to pay the permanent extortion money they have no chance to play their music in a public radio.
Very simple, it is nothing just a confirmation who owns the media.
that’s really true anon….Joan Baez refused to pay and until the Internet was up and running she was out of work and living in retirement..forced retirement….now she’s huge again….thanks to the Internet….
The so called Ukro nazi’s have nothing on the Tribe, the Ukrainian radicals are ork children, the Zionist Satanist’s belong in their own category, the architects of world destruction, of human enslavement are unequaled. They killed Christ and they will seek to kill the remnant of Christ as well.
Truth spoken clearly!
It was the Romans who killed Christ. He was against the Roman occupation and was a huge thorn in the Roman’s side, a very destabilizing force. Don’t forget that Christ was an observant Jew.
“It was the Romans who killed Christ. He was against the Roman occupation and was a huge thorn in the Roman’s side, a very destabilizing force. Don’t forget that Christ was an observant Jew.”
Jesus recognized that the Abrahamic traditions had fallen into disrepute, hence he embodied a new revelation, just as paganism had fallen to demon worship, Jewish religious life became largely a sarcophagus. Jesus was born a Palestinian Jew (true semite), and those Jews who failed to recognize him remained Jews, otherwise they became Christians.
Jesus was railroaded by the Jewish elite who refused to recognize his revelation and who were threatened by his questioning of the righteousness of their temple life. These temple Jews thus remained Jews (they refused him). To suggest that the Romans who consisted of various ethnicities killed Jesus would be to deflect blame away from those who really felt threatened by him, the Pharisees, or temple Jews and their money changing corruptions. Jesus called them out by name, repeatedly. To fail to recognize this is to become an apologist for the antichrist forces at work in the world.
Christ is not a Jew. The ‘Jews’ as a chosen people is a defunct concept, and a concept past its time is retrograde and very harmful to the evolution of human civilization. The Tribe as it exists today identifies itself as anti-Christian, in every sense of the word, it embodies the anti-thesis of Christs message. This antichrist sentiment is clearly delineated in the Mossads own motto ‘By way of deception, thou shall do war”, which is purely a Satanic verse.
“and those Jews who failed to recognize him remained Jews, otherwise they became Christians. ”
I guess Angelo means “ultimately” these people became “Christians.” It is my understanding that the separation and designationi of “Christians” did not occur during Jesus’ lifetime. That the followers of Jesus were considered a subgroup of Jews until an intra-Judaism schism occurred concerning who could convert to Judaism and be considered a Jew and who could not. The group that ultimately broke off to become “Christians’ were a group that (I think) were more relaxed about the whole labeling issue and did not require circumcision for a person to be a Jew. But since the other Jews didn’t accept this, the “Relax, already!” noncircumcision group broke off and either called themselves Christians or others started calling them Christians. See, for example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision_controversy_in_early_Christianity
This supports my contention that the following is noteworthy and relevant, namely:
whereas Jews are quick to accuse non-Jews and even fellow Jews of anti-Semitism—a form of racism and, in teh case of fellow Jews, “self-hatred”—in fact it is the Jews themselves who choose to bear a physical “mark” that identifies them as “different,” a mark that shows and proves their special “covenant with God.” I,e., their differentness. And non-Jews’ differentness from THEM.
A truly astounding example of the psychological process known as projection, in this case a projection process that has been carried forward as an integral feature of Jewish culture and belief for millennia. Presumably those who became known as “Christians” saw through this delusionary projection and thought it was absurd.
Katherine
According to most historians, it would be more logical to blame the Romans for Jesus’ death. Crucifixion was a customary punishment among Romans, not Jews. At the time of Jesus’ death, the Romans were imposing a harsh and brutal occupation on the Land of Israel, and the Jews were occasionally unruly. The Romans would have had reason to want to silence Jesus, who had been called by some of his followers “King of the Jews,” and was known as a Jewish upstart miracle-worker.
Jews, on the other hand, lacked a motive for killing Jesus. The different factions of the Jewish community at the time – Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes, and others – had many disagreements with each other, but that did not lead any of the groups to arrange the execution of the other allegedly heretical groups’ leaders. It is therefore unlikely they would have targeted Jesus.
But the belief that Jews killed Jesus has been found in Christian foundational literature from the earliest days of the Jesus movement, and would not be easily abandoned just because of historians’ arguments.
Act 10:39 And we are witnesses of all things which He did both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem, whom they killed by hanging on a tree.
Michael
Christ was a Palestinian.Jews did not exist at that time.Jews are a modern creation and a CULT to usurp history and to make them selfs something they are not.Do you think it is a accident that there is no mention of Jew anywhere in any hieroglyphs on any monument in Egypt.
Now there were Hyksos which were kicked out of Egypt and they are mentioned in hieroglyphs.Wander if they are same as chosen people.
Self proclaimed chosen people killed Christ because he took away their chosen status as gods people and spoke the truth that all peoples are gods people.
Today’s Jews are chosen people but not of God but of Satan.Wake up sheeple.Why do you think it is mostly Christians dying in all the wars.Coincedence I don’t think so.
In the days of ancient Egypt, only the Pharaohs could attain eternal life. But Jesus was a populist who opened up eternal life to everyone, regardless of race, ethnicity, gender, age, occupation, income level, even religion. yep, including religion, because He didn’t come to earth to found a religion. He never intended that he be worshiped as a god, if you read the Gnostic Gospels. But the Church doesn’t like people to read.
What source of delusional, revisionist history did you find to support your contention? If you had even the remotest knowledge of history you would know that the jewish rabbis worked hand in hand with the Roman occupiers. The phareses were first and foremost concerned with money and power. Just as their Roman allies. Christ was an observant jew who saw the jewish leadership exactly as they were and wanted to rid the faith and the truly faithfull from them. The jewish leadership were willfull participants in the crimes perpetrated against Christ and true believers. Zionist troll.
“The
jewishRussian leadershipwereare willfull participants in the crimes perpetrated againstChrist and true believersthe people of Donbass and much farther afield.Zionist troll.”One bunch of oligarchs are much the same as any other.
“Don’t forget that Christ was an observant Jew.”
There’s quite a chance that he was not a Jew but a Buddhist instead. His grave is still being visited and honored by Indians, and over there he was and is known as Yuz Asaf. Several people have been writing about this and a German historian, Holger Kersten, did put years of study in.
Here some more info: http://www.sol.com.au/kor/7_01.htm
Enjoy!,
JC
No, no, Christ was definitely an extraterrestrial.
The capitalist counter revolution was the greatest catastrophe of the 20th century. It allowed these neadrathals some sort of legitimacy and their triumphalism convinced the world that their was NO ALTERNATIVE to THE CAPITALIST SOCIAL ORDER. This is the last and highest stage of economic organization for humanity anything else is utopian garbage. They would have marched on Moscow in 1945 had Churchill had his way. He must be dancing with the devil today.
I have nothing to add to your comments, Saker, but my agreement and support.
I too like most things Floyd, etc, however being a child of the 80’s and loving the new wave euro trash music of that decade, I think that this obscure little band’s lyrics foreshadowed some very important truths:
On joyless lanes we walk in lines
A calm but steady flow
Accompanied by loud commands
Our strength is running low
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=660ZCEhvbnw
Ironically enough, the band’s name was Propaganda…
Sorry anon…didn’t like it…dead zombies with sick images of a poor snake….sick zio music
What a beautiful song, Saker!
What was the event that led him to sing: “I am not saying that the battle is won, but on Saturday night all those kids in the sun wrested technology’s sword from the hands of the War Lords.”?
Synagogue of Satan is still alive and well ..
Firstly dear Saker, thanks for very deep and emotional piece of writing…secondly, I wish you had put the names of the demons under their pictures, but I guess it would have taken too much time…I don’t know who is who, and I think, especially if you want me to determine if they’re possessed, that I have to know who is who…so sorry, can’t answer your query today…
I think as a generalization that there is an oversoul or perhaps I can say, a being, that is EVIL, that is coming closer and closer to ‘the world’ after all, he is “Prince of this world” who can incarnate or incorporate in human beings if they allow it to happen.
Christ said “I am not of this world’ and he mentions in other places too, like the High Priestly Prayer, in the last of the discourses (the last supper scene) in John’s Gospel “… but they are in the world …” meaning the apostles are working in the world, for the good of mankind….
Anyway this huge oversoul is incorporting itself in anyone who makes him/herself available to it. So yes, in a way these men are demons…possessed….
You are correct Ann.
I would also like to see their names under these pictures!
I recognize some: Bill Krystol, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Elliot Abrams. John Bolton. I believe that they are all Jewish and they are all Zionists.
This is the essence of the case, Saker!
Name the Devil!
From John Bolton’s Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton#Early_life_and_education): he does not seem to be Jewish in any way, by ancestry or adherence. His mother and father have gentile names (mother’s sounds Irish); he was raised in a blue-color neighborhood in S.W. Baltimore, far from the Jewish concentration in N.W. Baltimore (a.k.a. ghetto); attended a prestigious local prep school on a scholarship; was in the Maryland National Guard, so avoided the draft (not unusual at the time), and went to Yale on a scholarship. Wikipedia says he’s a Lutheran. Father was a fireman, mother a housewife. Jumped up blue color. Po moemy rather admirable for that.
Certainly a despicable person in every way. But not one of the tribe.
@ Seward,
I was not sure about Bolton. But the wikipedia article states: ” Bolton is also involved with a number of politically conservative think tanks and policy institutes, including the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA).”
So he is certainly a Zionist. I wonder about the other faces? Saker gave us 12 faces. How many of them are Jewish? I mean, the Jews are around 2% of American population, if I remember correctly. These faces up there create the imperial policies. It is important to know their names and origin in order to establish absolutely objective and scientific historical record about out times. How many of them are not Jewish but only Zionist?
I think Saker should provide the name for each face. I mean, we are just analyzing our contemporary historical reality. We need to know what we are facing. It is important.
I recognize another one!
His name is Douglas Faith. (Fifth in the first row, the one with the glasses). Also Jewish.
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“Feith also served on the board of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), a think tank that promotes a military and strategic alliance between the United States and Israel. [8]”
Feith was one of the eighteen founding members of the organization One Jerusalem to oppose the Oslo peace agreement. Its purpose is “saving a united Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel.” He is also Director of Foundation for Jewish Studies, which “offers in-depth study programs for the adult Washington Jewish community that cross denominational lines.”
“Feith favors US support for Israel and has promoted US-Israeli cooperation. He also favors stronger US-Turkish cooperation, and increased military ties between Turkey and Israel. Both Feith and his father have been honored by the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), a conservative organization that often makes common cause on foreign policy issues with conservative Christian organizations.”
“His father, Dalck, was a member of the Betar, a Revisionist Zionist youth organization”
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Ok, so we have the names of half of them. 5 out of 6 are Jewish, and the one who is not (Bolton) is a Zionist.
As Saker said, these are the people who directly caused the situation where “a nuclear war is possible again.” Therofore it of uttermost importance that we identify them all.
I will search further. I hope somebody will assist me here.
This is fun.
Agreed. Saker’s rants are always great fun!! Even the gubmint enjoys his blog. Thats why they won’t shut it down.
Ok, I was searching more.
I recognize two more faces from this list which Saker provided.
The first one in the first row is Irving Krystol. He is dead, and was also Jewish. He was dubbed “the godfather of neo-conservatism”.
The second is Michael Ledeen. Some sources claim that he is Jewish, some that he is not. One thing is certain about him:
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“Ledeen was a founding member of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs and he served on the JINSA Board of Advisors. In 2003, the Washington Post alleged that he was consulted by Karl Rove, George W. Bush’s closest advisor, as his main international affairs adviser.
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If you can say that among this monsters there is one which is the most dangerous, I would single out Michael Ledeen. This are his most famous words :
“Creative destruction is our middle name, both within our own society and abroad. We tear down the old order every day, from business to science, literature, art, architecture, and cinema to politics and the law. Our enemies have always hated this whirlwind of energy and creativity, which menaces their traditions (whatever they may be) and shames them for their inability to keep pace. Seeing America undo traditional societies, they fear us, for they do not wish to be undone. They cannot feel secure so long as we are there, for our very existence—our existence, not our politics—threatens their legitimacy. They must attack us in order to survive, just as we must destroy them to advance our historic mission.” (” The War Against the Terror Masters “)
The other qoutes from Ledeen:
* “the level of casualties (in Iraq) is secondary”
* “we are a warlike people (Americans)…we love war”
* “Change – above all violent change – is the essence of human history”
* “the only way to achieve peace is through total war”
This qoutes are according to Jack Huberman, who writes in The Nation, a left-wing magazine. He describes Ledeen as “the most influential and unabashed warmonger of our time”
So I managed to expose 8 personalities from the picture which Saker gave us. 8 out of 8 are confirmed Zionists, and 6 or 7 out of 8 are Jewish.
I will try to discover the remaining four.
see:
http://www.thenation.com/article/men-jinsa-and-csp?page=full
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Neo-conservatives/list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
http://hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/FromOthers/list-of-neocons-for-Iraq-war.htm
http://oursalon.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-red-flag-the-aei-pnac-and-the-kristols-neoconservatives-pave (labelled photos)
also https://2012patriot.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/ron-paul-exposes-neocons/
the google images page of neocons:
https://www.google.com/search?q=neoconservatives&client=firefox-a&hs=cfa&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&biw=1024&bih=596&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=RNSOVdKhFcjvtQWmg4DQAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CAkQ_AUoBA#imgrc=_
@ blue,
thanks. I didn*t know at all that Peter Galbraith was member of the team!
I hope that some of my fellow Serbs will see him on those pictures you posted. Petar Galbraith was namely the person who presided over the expulsion of 350 000 Serbs from Krajina in today*s Croatia in August 1995. (and the simultanious murder of around 2 500 of them, all civilians). He was the US ambassador in Croatia at the time.
Neocons are realy the best of the best.
(And now I am going to puke…).
All right. I am tired.
I indentified two more.
The second one in the first row is Norman Podhoretz.
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“The son of Julius and Helen (Woliner) Podhoretz,[3] Jewish immigrants[4] from the Central European region of Galicia (now part of Poland)[5] Podhoretz was born and raised in Brownsville, Brooklyn. Podhoretz’s family was leftist, with his elder sister joining a socialist youth movement.”
….
“Podhoretz received the Guardian of Zion Award from Bar-Ilan University on May 24, 2007.” (The Guardian of Zion Award” ???!!! This is where I began to laugh actually.,.)
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And the last one, nr. 12, is Frank Gaffney. Although a rabid Zionist, apparently and surpisingly he is not Jewish.
So, Ann, now you know who is who. Almost ( I still do not know who is person nr. 6 on the list and person nr.9 – anybody, help?? ).
We have 10 self-declared Zionists, of whom 8 are Jews.
Voltaire once wrote :
“I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race.” ( Voltaire, Lettres de Memmius a Ciceron (1771) )
I am not saying he was right, just recalling.
Ciao for today, everybody!
@ The Wend
,Who controls America’
You can find them ALL here: http://www.thezog.info
Have fun exploring.
Thank you Sam!
I looked at it. A real “fun”, isnt it? I wonder one thing: since they are basically in control of everything, does that makes all of us like them? I mean, are we all now judaized to that extent that we cannot trully opose them in any sense, since they created all the preconditions for our existance in the real world?
Think about this. Jews are nowhere in the sports. Like Hindus. But unlike Hindus, who are not represented in the sports because of their philosophy of life which is a spiritual strugle for the better man inside you to win over the worse man inside you, the Jews are so preoccupied with gaining material power in all its segments that they have no energy left for things like sports (which is really a product of Greek philosophy).
Quote Joe Biden “you dont have to be jewish to be a zionist”
Dont forget most Israelis are athiest or “secular jews”.
Whatever Bolton is a nasty piece of work.
Tony Blair aka Miranda and his handler Lord “cashpoint” Levy a pal of the shopping centre magnate Frank Lowy deserve a mention too along with Sheldon Adelson King Bibi’s lord and master.
Names? Meet your real government:
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/03/naming-names-your-real-government.html?m=1
Also might as well throw this in, “modern empire explained”. Not that you need it. Just while I’m throwing out resources.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/02/empires-double-edged-sword-global.html?m=1
#4 from left looks like a walking deadman
Article on this, with the picture at top with names given
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/coleen-rowley/never-doubt-that-a-small-_b_63408.html
Wend…
#6 is Libby, #6 is Kagan, Nuland’s Husband.
@blue,
now you made me admit that I came back to see if anybody found something usefull. :-) Thank you very much, but you could have spared me from my research earlier today (I actually have very important things to do, but this Zionist thing is so INTERESTING that it always takes all of my attention!).
So, you gave us the full list. The last two missing names are: Scooter Libby and famous Robert Kagan. Both Jewish.
To sum it up: 10 out of 12 apostles of evil are members of the tribe. At least, two are not….
When the SCOTUS announced their decision on the Gay Marriage issue, I know what will come next from stupid US politicians, and it’s not even 24 hours yet; and here we go:
Kerry saying the decision “sends a message to the world”.
http://sputniknews.com/us/20150627/1023909567.html
Now let me be clear, personally I don’t even have much of any objection to the decision. But I know how US zombies think: as soon as they think they did something great, they want the world to do the same. It’s “follow me or else”! It’s totally nuts, to me it’s no different than religious fanatics like the ISIS trying to change other nations…. And these are the people who keep using “diversity” as pretext!
And amazingly, many people in the world will buy it. Idiots!
” Make no mistake: absolute evil does exit.”
Freudian slip?
Because I sure hope so.
On a more positive note: at least it is being exposed beyond any level they envisaged.
Even that rag the Guardian is acknowledging the Hegelian dialectic between the manufacture of terrorism, surveillance and military ‘protection.’
Wars do not just happen. They are being top-down manufactured. They are generated to create wealth for a self-designated class of ‘ubermensch’ who have co-opted the ‘divine right of kings’ to rule. It’s as if ‘fraternite, egalite, liberte’ never happened.
Unfortunately for them it did.
On Greece:
Tsiparis has rejected the latest fire-sale – uh, ‘bail-out.’ The Greeks are getting a referendum so they will only have themselves to blame if they make the wrong decision. Watch that space.
and just to add to my previous comment..this being of Evil, is teaching those of us that you feel yourself, in this piece to be aligned with. He’s using them, and the consequence of this is that WE are learning fast…Its going to be ok Saker…don’cha worry ’bout a thing…..
I am confused…so you are talking about the possibility of “a failed conventional war which slowly creeps into a nuclear one (first tactical, then strategic)” since in the following article you stated “Today I am going to address the nuclear threat canard one last time. After that, I will just ignore this topic which, frankly, is a waste of time.” Tell me please has your view changed since 10 June, 2014? see:http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/06/why-us-russian-nuclear-balance-is-as.html
Good point. Let me explain :I do not believe that anybody in the USA is planning a nuclear attack on Russia, or even a conventional one for that matter. But I do believe that the Neocons and their hate-filled policies expose us all to the risk of a political confrontation getting out of control and resulting in a war. No drunk driver plans for an accident but they still end up killing themselves and others.
Cheers,
The Saker
I assure you that someone within the bowels of power has drawn up plans for a nuclear strike against Russia, its likely classed as plan Z, or the final solution (Samson option), but it has been planned. Now if by ‘plan’ we mean an immediate option on the table, as we speak, than I would agree, there is no immediate plan for such an action. However, as stated above, its possible that by some mishap the world stumbles into it, and I for one hope that does not happen.
There have been plans before and many of the strategic goals are still relavent.
See “Operation Dropshot”
“And now they are openly supporting the three most demonic ideologies on the planet: Daesh Takfirism, Ukro Nazism and Israeli Zionism.
That such a small amount of individuals would have such a fantastic capability for evil is just amazing, and very discouraging.
Make no mistake: absolute evil does exit”.
The three ideologies mentioned are all linked and all have the same origin and roots. The Ukro Nazis have been cultivated for decades by Washington and we all know who created Al-Qaeda to fight the Soviet army in Afghanistan, and make no mistake, Al-Qaeda and ISIS are one and the same, ISIS being simply Al-Qaeda rebranded.
America is the source of all the evil plaguing mankind at the moment and the source of all destability and chaos in this world, together with its vassals. The mask came off their agenda the day George Bush Jnr. said “you are either with us or you are against us”, thereby giving an ultimatum to the world. The so called “west” has been taken over by a satanic cabal of industrialists and financiers who operate as a global mafia and are evil to the core of their souls, but their day of judgement is near to hand and they shall reap all the evil and destruction they have sown worldwide.
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
This is the fate that awaits America. Amen.
War, past and today, propel human kind of life forward. It is all natural. Human wanting more of some, and anything. Without it we will be animals, at peace with all other life on this planet. At some time the turning point was war with tools made to win. Today we facing a next chapter called race for brains, wile idiots are in command. Thy natural lacking this required brains, but know by instinct how to find them. Nature at work. The result will be, again, a leap forward. To a unknown detestation.
A leap forward? Not this time I think. The US civil war saw the first use of repeating rifles. The first word war saw the use of machine guns. The second world war was aircraft.
The third world war ………
ISIS is back – just in time to prove we do need the surveillance state after all :
http://off-guardian.org/2015/06/26/isis-is-back-just-in-time-to-prove-we-do-need-the-surveillance-state-after-all/
“That such a small amount of individuals would have such a fantastic capability for evil is just amazing, and very discouraging.
Make no mistake: absolute evil does exist.”
Granted, the pictures do show us pieces of degenerated scum that should be put to death immediately. Really beyond redemption and below contempt. But still, there is a little problem with the notion of “absolute evil” since no humans are born evil. Make no mistake: I am definitely not of the forgiving type when it comes to hardcore fascist reactionaries, but the invocation of “absolute evil” tends to sweep the root cause behind such offal — most critically the issue of their power — under the rug. And what needs to be addressed, in other words corrected, is the rampant parasitism of Western imperialism. It has to be quite difficult not to become an all-out criminal and/or psychotic scum once you, for whatever reason, commit yourself to serve the system and advance through its ranks. Parasitism breeds degeneracy all along the line. It’s not just the depicted dregs above with all of them belonging to the proverbial 1%. It’s the zombified, mentally poisoned Western monkeys believing in them too.
“One could have imagined that having done 9/11 and launched the worldwide GWOT (Global War on Terror), the Neocons would have quenched their thirst for blood, but apparently this was not enough.”
Exactly. Put bluntly, there is no such limit since the fears and hatreds of parasites are fuelled by the permanent double threat of the host either becoming exhausted or dealing with the parasites accordingly. It’s the psychotic behaviour of an addict. 500 years of unending horrors across the planet should have made that clear.
“But still, there is a little problem with the notion of “absolute evil” since no humans are born evil”
Psychopaths are born without conscience, empathy, compassion. Without those people with power are capable of any evil. Then there are those that actually enjoy the pain of others.
It is something you are either born with or not.
Yes, what you said is totally true, but most people do not know this. Most people just think sociopaths/psychopaths are serial killers or rapists. Those are the “failures”, successful sociopaths are politicians, Congressmen, Senators, CEOs, Defense Ministers and the like! These people eventually knows how to play the “game” very well, especially successful in running for office….
Bourgeois utter psychobabble. Parasitism breeds moral degeneration. Fascists like the neocons are just militant parasites, taking pride in their own manifest vileness. If the neocons are understood as born scum, then the corollary question becomes whether the West is genetically defunct since it’s just not a matter of the powerful dregs (the 1%) but also of the Western monkeys believing in them.
Ergo: Complete Western sterilization might well have something worthwhile to offer.
I suspect Kerry’s trip to Sochi was like a fork in the road. One road led to peace, which I think Kerry was trying to turn onto, the other fork leads to war, which is the road we are now on.
‘left-wingers’ like samantha power susan rice and obama have destroyed nations across africa including libya. I actually prefer neocons, they’re honest, whereas Power hides behind crocodile tears that they’re incinerating brown people to save them. Both neocons and ‘left-wingers’ are simply products of the unparallelled US brainwashing system, which starts from first grade. i’m sure they think they’re good people, it’s the system that’s evil genius, not them.
The system is ‘evil’, of course, but what about all the people who went through it and did not become monsters? And what of the monsters that grew up in other places where such brainwashing does not happen?
Saying the system is ‘evil’ is insufficient explanation (or excuse) for understanding what is happening or dealing with it — or explaining how the nature of the system became what it is, or why it is different elsewhere, and where such aberrant creatures such as neocons and sociopaths are properly controlled?
The idea that Obama, Power and Rice are “left-wingers” is ludicrous. They are in fact, exactly the opposite — fascists to the core.
The 1% are nothing but the shiniest mirror of the the 99%. You are preching war tactics and strategies but are forgeting the basic one: where you put the blame and responsibility, there you put the power. Now tell me, how weak do you need to be before realizing it it is the truth?
An interesting action and a couple polls:
Bulgarian Activists Protest Deployment of US Weapons on Their Soil
The Initiative Committee of Bulgaria which consists of lawyers, media representatives and civil society activists, organized a national civil initiative against the deployment of foreign troops and military equipment on the Bulgarian territory.
Organizers plan to collect signatures under a petition and pass it on to the National Assembly and the Council of Ministers.
The idea of this initiative belongs to a non-partisan civic movement ‘Modern Bulgaria,’ which brings together people of different political views, reports Bulgarian media Blitz.
The petition which was published on June 25, calls “to prevent the transformation of Bulgaria into a facilitator for settling of foreign geopolitical goals and aspirations, which can result in suffering of long-term national interests.”
“We understand the position of other sovereign states, which have their own fears and tensions with Russia. But we believe that they should respect the sovereignty and interests of Bulgaria. The national security of our country does not have any direct or indirect threat from the Russian Federation. Therefore, nothing is forcing us to place foreign military troops on the Bulgarian territory,” read the petition.
Only 9% of Americans See Russia as a Threat – Poll
Only nine percent of American TV viewers see Russia as a security threat, according to the results of an opinion poll released earlier this week.
With 33 percent the Islamic State terrorist group topped the list of the Americans’ security fears, followed by China with 26 percent, according to a Fox News poll conducted between June 21 and 23.
A mere nine percent of respondents pointed to Russia as a security threat, followed by Iran and al-Qaeda.
In Russia, meanwhile, the US and President Barack Obama were seen as this country’s main ill-wishers by a hefty 37 percent of respondents in a survey conducted by the Russian Public Opinion Research Center.
The Bulgarian action has got to really rattle those zionazi/nazi cages: “What, you don’t want to be our cannon fodder? How dare you disobey us.” The Fox poll probably more represents the amount of time Fox is covering the various “hitlers” around the world. China is probably getting more play than Russia now from them, ATM, and the “pod creatures” are simply expressing what their “memory of a fly” minds have retained over the last day or so.. Viewers of that zionazi network are not sentient beings capable of independent thought in any normal sense. Think of them as mental automatons who are simply programmed to respond to stimuli. The Russian poll, on the other hand, represents a much better informed public, who are capable of rational thought. Both the Bulgarian and Russian views expressed are absolute anathema to the zionazi/nazi mentality running the west and probably their greatest fear.
The image of the rattling of zionazi/nazi cages is funny – thanks!
Some years ago the actor Mel Gibson was pulled over by police . Mel it seems was intoxicated somewhat, and while being checked out by the cops he started rambling about “wars” and stuff..He was recorded saying “THE JEWS ARE BEHIND ALL WARS”.
Those words cost him his career, but he did us all a huge favor by saying something that most of us are only now slowly coming around to realizing how true it was and is.
If you think I am lying just look at the characters who are in the photo in this article
These are not “Godless” people as some of us would like to believe, they do believe in God, it just that LUCIFER is the God they believe in and serve deligently.They like the devil will be content with nothing less the destruction of all that is good and decent………Oh, and by the way, these same folks are behind yesterday’s Supreme Court ruling on Same Sex Marriges………WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!
@Jaro
Just make a search in almost every single country around the world but especially USA, who were the ambassadors and their religion and you will get the answer. Start from the year 1950 for example, immediately after WWII they were starting to work on their master plan.
This plan was in the making more than 70 years and now we can see this monster in a full picture. They are everywhere like a metastasis of the cancer around the all world because of the naivety of the people and trust around the world.
You can find them in the most important positions everywhere, just quietly washing the shores of the all world for their benefits and for the enslavement of the world.
“If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being”.
-Alexandr Solzhenitsyn (“The Gulag Archipelago”)
It may be emotionally satisfying to call those people “evil” and assume that there is then no more to be said about them. I don’t see that as a fruitful line of approach, however. “Evil” is a somewhat subjective idea. Imagine the world in the time of the dinosaurs, long before any human beings existed. An allosaur kills a herbivorous dinosaur and tears it apart, gulping down great chunks of bloody meat while the victim is still alive. Is that “evil”? If they could speak, the herbivore would certainly pronounce it “ultimate evil”. The allosaur, however, is merely enjoying its lunch, and the terrible screams of its victim add relish to the meat, by giving assurance that it is really fresh.
The concept of evil, then, is something that human beings introduced to the world. And it is still subjective. Many of us entertain an ideal of objectivity, fairness, equality, which persuades us to judge everyone alike. By that standard, the neocons are indeed a horrible bunch of people. But they are only doing what human allosaurs do – if they are allowed to. To me, the real question is how the USA, the Land of the Free and supposedly the unique, indispensable nation, with its democratic pretensions, handed over its government to such people.
Tom, to some reader you may seem reasonable.
However, on first read, I see a flaw in you thinking or choice of words.
Evil is a state of violence. It comes from the deliberate will, not the natural state as dinosaurs lived.
You can club your brother’s head into pulp or not. It takes deliberation to do that act.
It takes deliberation to burn down a house filled with humans. That is not a natural act.
It takes deliberation to fly over another nation and drop bombs on its cities. That is not natural.
Evil is a horror because it is a deliberate occurrence by other humans. Rape isn’t natural. Torture isn’t natural.
And what is evil isn’t subjective. It is easily universally defined. It evokes the same horror in all, from any part of the globe or family of man.
The capacity of some humans for evil is cultivated by social policies in some domains. The conditioning is sometimes aided by drugs or drinks.
But the ideological use of evil is what challenges the world today. Tyrannies of the elites, particularly in the EU/NATO and US Hegemonic governments have deliberately unleashed evil organizations on all peace-seeking, cooperating nations who desire a multi-polar world.
These elites are clusters of several factions, some purely ideological like neo-cons, others MIC factions, others greed-filled banksters and financial aggregators and fraudsters.
They each have their weapons and set-piece tactics. And all are evil.
None of them or their policies and actions are natural-occuring. They all are deliberate, criminal, willfully intending for domination and destruction of others.
We sometimes refer to them as cancers or rabid dogs, but that is not an accurate simile or metaphor. Those objects (cancers and rabid dogs) are happenings of natural cause.
Free will and responsibility are burdens we all recognize in civilization. Good and evil, thus are constructs of intellect, not nature.
To reposition evil to another category that carries no responsibility is erroneous and false.
The resulting challenge for the non-evil, the responsible others, all of whom will sooner or later be targets of such evil, is to decide what action to take.
Evil must be met and defeated. The practitioners must be neutralized. There simply is no choice, no third way, no magic, no road to peace without fighting that war.
It is best to act sooner before real war erupts. Stop the evil leaders, challenge the evil ideologies, and do what must be done in small conflicts and controllable clashes.
I see Russia doing just that, using all weapons of diplomacy, military, covert action, and economics in strategies and tactics. Putin and Russia lead the fight.
“Rape isn’t natural.”
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https://atheistforums.org/thread-14248.html:
“I’ve been doing some reading lately on rape involving animals. No, not bestiality, though that’s kind of in the same scope, here… Rape is a naturally occurring phenomenon in the animal kingdom, as well as in humanity, as we are all aware. One thing that has been noted is that it definitely occurs in chimps, monkeys, apes…our closest genetic relatives in the animal kingdom, basically, along with bottlenose dolphins and other animals. It also occurs in different species of insects, by the way. So it would seem that…yes, rape is natural.
The possible reasons for rape’s prevalence are fairly obvious…though this does not excuse them amongst humans. Basically, it runs that, at least in the animal kingdom and from a biological standpoint, rape is committed in order to prevent genetic extinction; basically, biologically, if you can’t get a mate by the usual methods, force is necessary to prevent genetic extinction. Now, this is CLEARLY not the case with humans; for example, I remember reading that a fairly famous porn star was arrested for rape recently. A porn star. The guy clearly was not biologically failing in a capacity to mate…”
Anon, you are quoting a blog which makes that statement (rape among various animals) with zero sources to back it up. So you have produced second hand hearsay, not evidence.
The definition of rape includes lack of consent so how do you determine consent among insects? or lack of it? in most animals the male is not interested in mating until the female is receptive (which is signaled in various biological ways outside her conscious control). So “rape is natural” is nonsense.
Why not say it is natural for a woman to kill and eat the man after sex? some spiders do it, after all..
“so how do you determine consent among insects? or lack of it? so how do you determine consent among insects? or lack of it?”
I’d be interested in your comment, first.
“Why not say it is natural for a woman to kill and eat the man after sex? some spiders do it, after all..”
Good example
It is.
Get real.
“The definition of rape includes lack of consent so how do you determine consent among insects? or lack of it? ”
You think an antelope consents to being eaten by a lion?
does it try to escape?
@ Larchmonter 445
,Evil must be met and defeated’
YES but let me add: before that can happen, evil must be called out loud and clear.and
lies must be shown to be lies by exposing them for all to see.
It should be done in simple terms so that everybody can understand.
Spoken like a true materialist. Humans are not dinosaurs and evil is not subjective, evil is the desire to control others, period. All humans have the capacity for evil, unfortunately a subgroup of humanity seems to have been bred to control, there are many theories about this, but that’s another discussion.
Evil is real, this materialist approach to evil as some subjective principle applies only to sentient life that lacks self reflection, humans however self reflect, we understand our actions above and beyond simply the need for survival, it is why we (generally speaking) don’t eat our babies, or kill our neighbour in order to steal his wife.
Those pictured above, and many others not pictured are members of a Tribe that feeds on group control, they KNOW their actions result in a certain outcome (“500,000 dead Iraqi children “was worth it” – Madeleine Albright). Not all members of this Tribe are ‘Jewish’ in a genealogical sense, but a far too great majority are. Again there are theories of why this is, but again that is another discussion.
People like those listed above come to power because of nepotism, and group aims (known as a conspiracy) to gather power unto themselves, they have done so because of weak minded people who would argue that dinosaurs and monkeys are not evil, while shrugging their shoulders in dismay at how things just got so bad.
The answer to your last question is very simple: the system in the US has been taken over by many sociopaths. These people have no conscience, or empathy. Their sole purpose is to “succeed”: this means rising in rank and power, making more money, etc. Peter and I have mentioned this fact in another post. Believe it or not!
Electronic voter fraud, neo-con control of the media/information, under-educated Americans moving at a 100 mph pace to keep food and shelter with no time to think about anything else, lying thieving politicians, generally, a broken down American society.
BTW, on the subject Takfiri imbeciles, here’s how to spot a fake CIA-Moslem: https://www.facebook.com/bruce.fenton.page/photos/a.372809748000.157606.195676678000/10152874268073001/?type=1&theater
When I see a picture of men like those above, there is another song that comes to mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQUXuQ6Zd9w
That video is Western propaganda.The song is good,but the video combines images the Western propaganda associates with nazism and communism together.Its a video made in 2014 to subtly associate Russia with dictatorship. Complete with the Red flags and Stalinist architecture.Its just another of their tricks to brainwash the masses of zombies in the West.It appears even some here fall for the BS they put out.
Corbett and Chussodovsky did two great little pieces on this topic recently on GRTV.
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=ZtLABW149Ss
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=cIPs0j1EL44
If you look closely, all wars are banksters wars with the usual suspects. The US Civil War, all the European wars including WW1 and WW2. Hitler was financed by western banksters. In many cases, banksters finance both sides. The Russia-Japan War back around 1905 (?) had detailed info online on how Japan had to raise money for the war.
Roger Waters father was a socialist and a pacifist. He totally rejected WW2. I am not sure if he was drafted or compelled to join the British Army. He became a medic and died during the Anzio invasion in Italy. Roger Waters has always know that all wars are banksters wars. Prince Phillip, the Queens husband, was in the SS before the war and had relatives in the SS. War is about mass murder for profit. Very sad. We see the western countries losing more and more freedom.
We see the ziocon vultures like Soros and the rest waiting to pounce to try to take Russia back for the zoligarchs if Putin makes one mistake. The western countries are clueless but I hope the Russian people understand that the people who murdered them by the tens of millions from 1917-1939 and during the bankster war WW2 are waiting to try to take over Russia again. Russia has untold riches and they want Russia back so they can loot and murder.
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh , https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Филипп,_герцог_Эдинбургский ), Price Philip only lived in Germany two years, from 1933 to 1935, from ages 12 to 14, attending the Salem School there to save school fees. In 1935 both he and the school moved to Scotland, where he attended the same school, renamed Gourdonston in Scotland, until his graduation in 1939, after which he joined the Royal Navy. So he could only have been a member of the SS from age 12 to 14, utter nonsense of course.
Here is an interesting article on the Prince’s nazi roots.I’m not sure I buy the context of the article 100%.But the historical facts seem to be true.And that is what we are talking about,historical facts.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_blacknobil09.htm
I would describe that as “brushes with” rather than “roots”. He was a schoolboy in Germany and his sisters had married German princes.
All rather irrelevant to anything, anyway. Where’s there any evidence he had any influence on anyone or anything? ever?
All 4 of his sisters married German Princes.And 3 of which were nazi party members.And other members of his family were nazi supporters.I think that is a bit more than “brushes”.He even said in an interview that his family supported Hitler at the time.I don’t think he had a great deal of real influence (certainly during the war he didn’t).Still it does seem having someone at least neutral, if not tarred by nazism, in a leading position is not the best idea.And then having him say things like he did,leads one to wonder about him.
Here is from an article in the British press:
Prince Philip has broken a 60-year public silence about his family’s links with the Nazis.
In a frank interview, he said they found Hitler’s attempts to restore Germany’s power and prestige ‘attractive’ and admitted they had ‘inhibitions about the Jews’.
The revelations come in a book about German royalty kowtowing to the Nazis, which features photographs never published in the UK.
They include one of Philip aged 16 at the 1937 funeral of his elder sister Cecile, flanked by relatives in SS and Brownshirt uniforms.
One row back in the cortege in Darmstadt, western Germany, was his uncle, Lord Mountbatten, wearing a Royal Navy bicorn hat.
Another picture shows his youngest sister, Sophia, sitting opposite Hitler at the wedding of Hermann and Emmy Goering.
Explaining the attraction of the Nazis, 84-year-old Prince Philip told an American academic: “There was a great improvement in things like trains running on time and building. There was a sense of hope after the depressing chaos of the Weimar Republic.
“I can understand people latching on to something or somebody who appeared to be appealing to their patriotism and trying to get things going. You can understand how attractive it was.”
He added that there was ‘a lot of enthusiasm for the Nazis at the time, the economy was good, we were anti-Communist and who knew what was going to happen to the regime?’
Philip stressed that he was never ‘conscious of anybody in the family actually expressing anti-Semitic views’. But he went on to say there were ‘inhibitions about the Jews’ and ‘jealousy of their success’.
Philip was born Prince of Greece and Denmark on Corfu in 1921, the youngest of five children and the only son of Prince Andrew of Greece and Princess Alice of Battenberg. All four of his sisters married German princes and three – Sophie, Cecile and Margarita – became members of the Nazi party.
Sophia’s husband, Prince Christoph of Hesse, became chief of Goering’s secret intelligence service and they were frequent guests at Nazi functions.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-379036/Prince-Philip-pictured-Nazi-funeral.html#ixzz3eK9qIATv
“are waiting to try to take over Russia again”
wtf makes you think they haven’t already?
I blame the Western society en mass. The nuclear stand against Russia and China that West propagates today is failure of the Western society in its entirety and not just its ruling class. Most people are not Jewish and not rich, but the general support among the North American and European nations given to their elite in its desire to “punish” Russia, to “kill” Russia, to make it “disappear” has become a revelation for many in Russia. You don’t see any anti-war protests like those back in 60s in support of the Soviet Union. The willingness of the Eastern Europeans to host NATO and to place this giant target sign on their chest for the Russia’s response strike is truly bewildering.
Risking to become forever damned by our commentators and readers, I would even play the devil’s advocate here by bringing up the fact that the Orthodox Jews consider the current situation as being caused by Erev Ravs. Jewish outcast hellraisers, which are “the souls from the world of chaos transplanted into every generation.” It’s equal to the term “to be possessed.” According to the orthodox Jews, it seems that these people, Erev Ravs, have successfully infiltrated the hearts and minds of the Western society and challenge not just the humanity in general, but God itself.
The Western society failure to fend off this onslaught is an indication of profound spiritual illness, but it’s also a simple thing like living beyond its means and overspending. All problems, arguments, and wars are always about money.
The Washington Examiner: “Years of gimmicks and politically motivated benefit increases for government workers have left America’s states and municipalities with pension funds that are short at least $1.5 trillion — and possibly as much as $4 trillion if the investment returns of these funds don’t live up to expectations in coming years.
Just so the word “trillion” does not pass by too quickly, let’s put it another way: That shortfall may be $4,000,000,000,000.
Taxpayers are already paying the price.”
US debt of possibly $125-150 trillion, is what will bring about its demise as a superpower, unless it defaults, like it did in 1979, or invades Russia with all its wealth.
That’s why you don’t see anybody protesting, because everyone secretly believes that if the Western nations attack all together like a pack of wolves and destroy Russia, they all would live happily and prosperous ever after.
However, Russians, who live very modestly, object to all these illusions of grandeur.
Here’s for you nice Tuvan throat singing, just to contemplate the fact that Russia is indeed an eternity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98
Eastern Europeans sold out to Nato and the EU for Coke and Pepsi and designer jeans and c
western music and pop culture, no offense to Pink Floyd, etc. Russians are a uniquely spiritual people who seem to be largely immune to material enticements. John Lennon was shot a couple days before he was planning to admit he was product of the Tavistock institute, or so it is rumoured. Those mass manipulators of human psychology do write some pretty good tunes.
Eastern Europeans were very tired of communism: of apartment buildings looking like prisons, of hunger, of cold; of endless stupid communist songs and movies; of bad hospitals and doctors and no medication; of the eternal parades and marches where they had to applaud their own enslavers; of the secret police torturing them if they dared to express their discontent, and so on.
So it’s no wonder they wanted to leave the Bear’s embrace and jumped at the occasion of joining EU and the rest. By the time they woke up to the new reality it was too late.
Don’t know if you ever watched communist tv, but the people probably were also sick and tired of the endless reports of how many cans of green beans were produced at what factory, you know, endless factory production reports. Yes, it is very easy to see why they were seduced by western media and entertainment. Now they live in a different kind of prison.
I’ve seen a few Soviet era films from my time travelling in Ukraine and Russia and they are quite enjoyable to watch compared to the crap that passes for film in most modern Hollywood productions. Nothing at all like I thought they would be i.e. not heavy on state praise. I find there is more of the worship of state in much of what comes out of Hollywood than Soviet era films.
As for apartment blocks that resemble prisson blocks, it was unfortunately the architectural form of the time. They exist as much in the UK, Italy, Australia as much as they did in the former USSR. From the period of the 60’s to 80’s, it was just bad design in the name of being modern. Luckily, design has moved on and more recent efforts in apartment block design is more pleasing.
As for health, many in the former USSR decry the loss of universal health, education and child care which has been stripped away to a new joyous privatised User Pays system in many of those countries. At least in Ukraine and Russia, the witch doctor Western Pharmaceutical Companies have not managed to hoodwink the public to believing they provide health products and instead people rely more on old natural derived health remedies.
Flor,
you are correct.
The elite oligarchs of the USSR were no better (or different) to those other (western) elites
http://stalingrad_1943.tripod.com/stalingrad/id19.html
“When the Bolsheviks seized power from the Provisional Government in October 1917, Lenin’s grand plan was to somehow bring socialism into Russia and eventually spread it among the world itself. Near the end of his life though, Lenin began to realize that the Communist Party was moving away from his vision. Membership was increasing steadily and some members were beginning to abuse their power; straying from the Partys discipline. Corruption began to emerge within the Party, which would continue under Stalin and increase under Khrushchev’s thaw. The problem of corruption would hit its peak when Brezhnev would rule over the Soviet Union for twenty-eight years. During Brezhnev’s reign, the bureaucracy was huge, going directly against Lenin’s vision. It became inefficient as officials used their positions for their own personal gain. Brezhnev and his government would do nothing to stop it and mainly ignored the problem since many Party members were directly involved with it. This would lead to economic stagnation, which created a lack of consumer goods. The black markets role would increase significantly, becoming a pillar under the Soviet system. This obvious misuse of power by the Party while the Soviet Union was in decline disillusioned the publics view of the Soviet system. The ideals of socialism, used by the Party were seen as lies. This added to the cycle of decline when disenchanted citizens undermined political authority. The quality and efficiency of Soviet production fell. Criticism of the Party would also increase with the growing internal problems. Gorbachev would inherit these problems when he became General Secretary in 1985, and with his policy of glasnost, public discontent would help bring down the Soviet Union in 1991. This contradiction of socialism that the Party almost encouraged during Brezhnev’s time hurt the Party’s legitimacy, which in turn would help weaken the system and move it towards collapse. Lenin was right when he said that the bureaucracy and corruption would threaten the future of the socialist project.”
It seems to me that they jumped from the “frying pan into the fire”. If you look at all the statistics of that time and today.You find that almost everyone of those countries have seen a serious (in some cases possibly existential) drop in population since that period.In no other countries of Europe have we seen those results.Ukraine was far from the only one,but she alone went from 52 million in 1991 to 45 million today (including Donbass).That means not only did they lose millions from their pre-USSR breakup population.But any gains from births for 23 years was wiped out.Again using her as an example (I could pick almost any other as well).She went from being an industrial nation on a par with many others.To a basket case economy.With little industry,and a GDP well below her comparable one in those days.If life was so horrible for the common man (not the upper brackets) why do Western opinion polls repeatedly show the majority of people say they were better off before the collapse.Those people made the same error much of the “third world” countries have.They bought into the Western “Hollywood” propaganda of life in the West.That is a life that even in the West goes to the Upper Middle and Upper Classes of people.And yet the “common” people in those countries think everyone lives like that in the West.I remember seeing MSM news reports on the “extravagant” lifestyle enjoyed by the Communist elite in the DDR after the wall fell.And looking at those homes I thought,OMG,they wouldn’t even be “summer houses” of the elite in the US.There is a serious misunderstanding of what wealth and privilege entails in the West.There are countless reports on the problems faced by the West today.And those people in the East traded a “moderate” but secure lifestyle.For those problems,and a constantly shrinking “safety net”.Had they changed to a “Social Democratic” system I could understand that.But allowing Western bought stooges to force them to “cowboy capitalism” has destroyed them.It will take serious reforms to rebuild their societies (if its even possible today).
True. Communist apartment blocks might have looked like prisons, and they were very modest, but in fact, they were relatively comfortable, and they always had heat. Now, Eastern Europeans long for the days that they could afford to heat their homes. If they can even afford them at all anymore. It’s easy to take cheap gas for granted until it’s gone: hear that, Europe? Don’t poke the Energy Bear.
@ FLOR solitaria on June 27, 2015 · at 6:30 pm UTC
Eastern Europeans were very tired of communism: of apartment buildings looking like prisons, of hunger, of cold;… ”
None of this was ever true.
Considering that most of these countries were allies of Nazi Germany. A stance against Russia is nothing new for them.
Considering that the Soviet Union rebuilt all of these countries after the war while being under the sanctions/blockades by the Western “democracies.”
Considering that neither the Soviet Union nor Russia ever asked for the money back, unlike the US with its Marshall Plan. The US claims it spent about $13 billion (approximately $120 billion in current dollar value) The Soviet Union probably spent the same amount restoring Eastern Europe.
Ugly modernist architecture of the 70s and 80s? Blame Charles-Édouard Jeanneret-Gris, who was better known as Le Corbusier, a French architect who destroyed urban landscapes across many countries and cultures. At least there were no homeless.
I presume from your comment that now everyone in Eastern European countries are prosperous and live in mansions surrounded by rose gardens.
My question is why are the Eastern European nations so eager to become launching pads for NATO missiles against Russia, and by this a ground zero for a possible thermonuclear war?
You answer is because these nations didn’t like how they lived as a part of the Warsaw pact.
Are you saying that now the lives of Eastern European nationals have improved so much compared to 25-30 years ago that they all are ready to commit collective suicide?
Scott,
in summary,
the oligarchs of the USSR had no more benefit in mind to the “ordinary” man than did the the kings of capitalism.
Please don’t be fooled: an oligarchic Russian elite serve mankind no different to any other elite.
I think a little too “broad brush” here, Scott.
Considering that most of these countries were allies of Nazi Germany. A stance against Russia is nothing new for them.
Germany had many alliances going back to WW1 or earlier, which had nothing to do with pro or con Russia. The Baltics and Poland, yes, had some experiences with the Soviets.
Considering that the Soviet Union rebuilt all of these countries after the war while being under the sanctions/blockades by the Western “democracies.”
Considering that neither the Soviet Union nor Russia ever asked for the money back, unlike the US with its Marshall Plan. The US claims it spent about $13 billion (approximately $120 billion in current dollar value) The Soviet Union probably spent the same amount restoring Eastern Europe.
Did they? where did the Soviet Union get that sort of money, having just fought a destructive war and losing so many people? They didn’t. They built some industry in each country, and they rebuilt themselves. These satellites were a major sanction-busting network. Later, nuclear power stations helped industry in each country but they paid through the nose for it with the products.
Ugly modernist architecture of the 70s and 80s? Blame Charles-Édouard Jeanneret-Gris, who was better known as Le Corbusier, a French…..
Not ugly modernist of the 70’s. Ugly bare basic of the 50’s. In Russia they were needed to house people moving in to cities to work in the factories. In the other countries, needed to replace housing stock decimated by the war. Perhaps by the 80’s people hated them. In earlier years they loved them — they were better than sleeping under bridges in Europe winters. In fact in every country they decreed how much space a person could have, and strangers would be moved in to occupy the other room/s, so every new building they could move out into was welcomed; people were still force-sharing well into the 70’s.
In 1991 everyone must have dreamt they’d get what they saw in the movies – comfortable middle class lives with their own house and car, and some luxuries. When the reality hit, that that is available only for a small number, they started to appreciate what they used to have — affordable power, free heating, a job for everybody, free education and medicine.
It is not Soviet dictatorship they’re nostalgic for, but for a communist or non-capitalist economy. Their politicians,. some of whom are left from Soviet times, have to promote anti RUSSIAN feeling to excuse and explain their having moved away from those ideas, when the real reason is that the new system is profitable for them.
“It is not Soviet dictatorship they’re nostalgic for, but for a communist or non-capitalist economy.”
At least you can comprehend why Capitalism sucks and that the benign trillionaire and inheritance are horrendous concepts.
That makes you an even more despicable being – I had thought you were simply bigoted.
Now – you can go back to counting your 401k.
@ Scott
I was born and lived there for half of my life. It was more than bad: it was a prison for the souls and bodies, a real life sentence since the day you were born until you died. Perhaps in the USSR it was better as you say, although I doubt it.
It’s cruel to say that “none of this was ever true”, and it’s this kind of attitude which makes those countries hate the Russians even more. You should know that the best propaganda is that which doesn’t lie about the enemy’s faults – that’s why the communist slogans about the Capitalist exploitation caught so well.
Sometimes there are provocateurs on the net who deliberately deny the truth in order that people who have been hurt by that to come forward. Others really believe what they are saying and these people sometimes can be exposed to the truth, so there is some hope. But the worst category is that of the professional propagandist who thinks that anything goes in order for his/her side to win, and s/he also happens to think that s/he is smart to boot. And that’s rarely the case.
I don’t know of any country which the USSR rebuilt, I only know about those which it destroyed, including mine. Starting with their best people who were killed and imprisoned. Just like what they did in their own country as a matter of fact. So if the soviets were so cruel to their own compatriots, there is absolutely no reason to believe that they would be kinder to other nations. And they weren’t. So that’s the background which I won’t expand any more for now, although if you really need information I will be happy to provide it since I have a big collection of books about it; and unfortunately also a big collection of memories, both personal and from my family and friends, many of whom were imprisoned and killed by the communists.
My reply was describing the feelings of the populations in most of the communist countries. They were all eager to join the West, which they knew it was better from the few people who escaped there; and naturally they hoped their lives would improve. They had no way of knowing beforehand what it would be like. (Let’s not forget that even Russia thought it would join the nice Western club at one time.) Now, as to why they want to become ground zero, as you said, my answer would be that they don’t really want that but nobody asked them. But they are run by the same gangs of corrupt communists and sons of communists who sold themselves left and right, and who thoroughly despise their own masters, as the recent secret taping scandal in Poland showed.
I believe you are Romanian,right.Romania was a maverick state in Eastern Europe.Only for a short time did the Soviets have real control there.The local Communists went their own way,with no Soviet troops even stationed in Romania.So while things may have been particularly bad in Romania.Most of the blame for that lies with local Romanians not Russians.In fact if the Russians had not liberated Romania from the fascists Romania wouldn’t look like it does today in area.Before they came, half of Transylvania belonged to Hungary at the end of WWII.The Soviets could have just accepted that,and left it alone (Hungary would have been happy).But instead they restored Romania to the pre-war borders (before you bring up Moldova,I’ve had that discussion once before.And that was a Russian province taken from Russia at the end of WWI and restored to the USSR by Stalin). Romania is another country that has suffered from the post-Communist decline. In 1992 the census showed 20,408,542 ethnic Romanians.And in 2011 the census was 16,792,868 ethnic Romanians.So 19 years of “freedom” cost Romania almost 4 million people,as well as the entire natural birth increases from those years.And instead of the “wonders” of EU membership helping them.That naturally rich land has a lower per capita income than “non-EU” Russia does.Even lower than basket case Greece does.And over 25% less than their arch rival Hungary.
@ Uncle Bob 1
I will direct you first to the third paragraph of my reply to Scott. I will add to that a fourth category of people which I forgot to mention, although it is among the most important on the internet – namely the representatives of a certain tribe, who pretend to be supporters of different sides, be they institutions, countries, political parties, religions, ideologies, etc. Now, these people are always recognizable, because they exhibit certain common traits, among which are: defence of their tribe even when pretending not to approve of it; hatred for certain religions, organizations and countries; hatred for certain public figures, past and present, translated into more or less subtle, but always constant, defamation; and never failing to mention the sufferings of the tribe at the hands of the different “Nazis” of all countries in a certain era.
Also when pretending to defend a side, they are always doing a sloppy job of it, because their “defence” of someone only consists in attacking others. And the simple fact that they cannot bring themselves to say something really good about their supposed side makes them write most of the time the most ridiculous articles and books. Of course, some are pretty skilled at being venomous, but most come out as unreliable and downright fluffy, due to this silly tendency of trying to say something bad about everybody in one place. That’s an art which is not completely mastered even by the devil, as witness his frequent failures.
Anyhow… To come to the point, Romania has had its share of troubles over the years, much of it due to its inept leadership. Its current condition perfectly illustrates the “kingdom against kingdom” general world situation, because everything in that country was done against its own good, even with the best of intentions (which was rarely the case). Romanians almost always chose the wrong option: they thought more about their sheep than about their country and religion, or more about their religion when they should have thought about their sheep, and so on, from the beginning to the present day. Which is not to say that they haven’t been helped by their neighbours on the path to hell. Greed is a human attribute common to all mankind.
And that brings us to the contention that the SU did not occupy Romania, which is a pretty lame thing to say when there are so many books and websites about this, and also there are still survivors from that time which was not that long ago. Of course, I would recommend to avoid some of the “informative” sites on the subject which popped up lately, due to the flaws inherent in their design that are mostly due to the ill-will of their initiators. Some people are better than others at trying to erase the past, even the recent one, but still, as Christ said “there is nothing hidden that will not be made manifest” in the end.
As for the pretention that Moldova was Russian, that’s also easily invalidated by the history books and testimonies of the people. And it’s also a very impolitic thing to say. I’m sure the current leadership of the RF would not make such a mistake in public, because the situation in Moldova is not like that in the Ukraine, but like that in the Baltic republics, and they know it very well. So why would they antagonize the entire Romanian population by making such an unsustainable claim, and then ask themselves why Romania agrees to become a launching pad (among the others) ? The surest thing to get a people to support its leaders, no matter how corrupt, is to assert territorial claims on its country’s borders, whether former or current.
Regarding the question of corruption, that is indeed rampant in Romania, more so than in any other European country. And nothing has been done to decrease it, despite several facade maneuvres, and nothing will ever be done until the entire structures are removed from top to bottom in all branches. Any power entity who thinks it will get some loyalty and obedience from them is greatly deluded, and will be let down when it least expects it.
And let’s also add that the USSR dissolved the Warsaw Pact peacefully. Not a shot was fired.
@grumpy cat
Yes, this is true everyone at the Eastern former communist countries had the opinion that the grass is much greener on the West, till they have discovered they have been robed of all of the economy and possessions.
Enslavement is the new and very sober reality now in these countries.
Yes, Saker they were very naïve and not just the east but the west too.
Saker rant: Please note how important you blog has become and have Plan B, Plan C and Plan D.
http://russia-insider.com/en/after-15-years-killing-journalists-pentagon-writes-it-manual/ri8320
Very relevant to today’s rant/topic:
“Who Are the Neoconservatives?”
by By Laurent Guyénot
Published two years ago, but more historica/analytical than topical.
Answers teh question: Who ARE these people?????”
And “Where the F did they come from? From under what stone?”
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35106.htm
First published here:
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
Definitely worth a read, although long.
Katherine
P.S. The Saker should NOT be driving with a bum ankle, methinks.
Very interesting, thank you!
This machiavelian way of thinking which neocons endorse reminds me of another great school of thought in the history of Judaism, namely that of the followers of Sabbatai Zevi.
On another occasion more about them…
Mr Saker: US History is chock full of the same sorts of characters pictured, and the policies they pursue aren’t much changed from those started by Jefferson–endless expansion of the Empire and destruction of all who get in its way. There was one chance to put them in their proper place in 1934 when they tried to overthrow FDR. But FDR’s actions in turn proved he was one of them temporarily hidden behind a Progressive Curtain known as the New Deal. Later FDR’s policies began the Cold War and begat the National Security Police State/Empire we now live within.
It is the fate of every living being to be eaten; neocons included; no being can escape this Law of Nature. Such knowledge doesn’t provide much solace, but eventually the bodies of the Boltons will become the excrement that already fills their brains. That they know they are very immoral is proven by the lies they knowingly tell to vindicate themselves. Beria almost seems saintly by contrast.
I think we as rational people of the anti-establishment news conscience must give pause and ask ourselves if this neocon initiative will end in a regional stalemate or will it crash into a military war; I see this as the only two viable options at this time. We need to explore different scenarios so that we are prepared as best as possible for what may transpire.
Despite hope against hope I do not believe Washington will back down in Eastern Europe. They are firmly planting the global agenda flag on the soil of those countries bordering the Russian Federation. The leadership of these “vassal nurseries” will metastasize into full blown satellite enablers of western aggression. Russia is paying full attention to this phenomena but they are not paralyzed; they are aggressively moving forward through diplomatic channels to foster new bridges of economic expansion with BRICS, SCO, etc. and other cooperative initiatives not constrained to just Eurasia; they also seek new avenues of understanding with South American nations that have suffered the pains put upon them by USAID bribery.
Russia has already been attacked through economic sanctions. However if the country is invaded by the Kiev-nazi junta then a military response has to happen. I cannot believe it would just be a countervailing attack; it has to push westward to Kiev and ultimately destroy the junta. This sends a clear message to the west and its newly captured protectorates in Eastern Europe that Russia will not tolerate any regime that attempts to undermine its sovereignty. There will be nationalistic puffery spewing forth from Washington and its media peacocks will fan the flames of bombastic hysteria (e.g., “the Russians are coming”). US-NATO will fly their airplanes and sail their warships in circuitous routes to try and provoke further defensive acts from Russia.
The bear will not budge unless the hubris of the political psychopaths and Pentagon hawks initiate a first strike with tactical nuclear weapons to shock and immobilize the Russian military. Such an overt act may very well happen due to the flawed belief that because President Putin is a skillful and consummate statesman, he therefore does not also possess the will to don the battle armor of a warrior and conduct a larger theater of conflict. These fiends for a unipolar government will have tragically made a fatal choice.
A monumental blunder of this magnitude will be the end of the United States of America as a military power. Russia will not simply retaliate in kind and keep the war regional. They will “jump over” Europe-NATO and launch their full spectrum of military offense from every conceivable platform and initiate a direct attack on the eastern seaboard of the continental United States. The destruction of the centers of finance, war planning, war fighting and basic infrastructure that Americans cannot live without will be unprecedented in modern warfare. Why do I think Russia would conduct such a severe and punitive measure? Because Putin and his military generals know if the U.S. neocons are not permanently stopped they will ultimately colonize and enslave the Russian people and “westernize” their civilization which they failed to do after the fall of the Soviet Union.
If the U.S. crosses that Rubicon to relish eastern Slavic blood, Mother Russia will have to act with a massive killing force; they absolutely will because the future prosperity as well as the very survival of this great nation and its multicultural society will depend upon it.
The elite bankers gave rise to Hitler. They planned for him
to only attack Russia. The elites plan was de-industrialize
both Germany and Russia. Hitler was a bad boy and went rogue,
Hitler disobeyed. Hitler went west and attacked France, not
in the plan. Hitler also went into North Africa, not in the plan.
Next time the elites promised themselves not to trust
a single person again. They decided use a a group or committee.
This committee is now called the Neo-Cons.
Now you know the rest of the story.
who funded communist russia
who funded nazi germany
american oli technology in german tanks
alluminium tubes from the usa and heavy water for the russian nuclear bomb.
you never saw this on bbc : )
The Best Enemies Money Can Buy – An Interview with Professor Antony C. Sutton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVWXmZB1wc
It seems to me that a major cause of this is that the culture, and capitalism, rewards and sustains predators while others are penalized and characterized as suckers, stupid, unrealistic, ‘goody two-shoes’, etc. and are exploited.
When ‘evil’ is rewarded, or even unrecognized, then we can certainly expect it to become dominant.
BTW, don’t miss
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/russian-intellectual-nikolai-starikov-difference-between-russian-and-western-civilizations
From meddling, to confrontation, to outright genocide, Russia and the West are fundamentally different realms
Leading Russian public intellectual and politician Nikolai Starikov recently spoke about the fundamental differences between Russian and Anglo Saxon cultures.
According to Starikov, the two civilizations have ‘mental codes’ that govern each one’s collective behavior. Whereas Russians have traditionally been more inclined to view other people as equals, Anglo Saxons have always been more inclined to look upon others as inferiors. This poisonous mindset manifests itself in all kinds of evil, ranging from discrimination and demonization of others, to war, and even to campaigns of genocide.
If Russia is indeed more inclined to foster cooperation, partnership, and conflict resolution among peoples and nations, the West is more inclined to foster conflict, stir up strife, reap divisions, and instigate wars amongst various peoples to spread chaos and destruction. These are national proclivities – fundamental mindsets – which when adequately contemplated, go a long way in explaining the current conflict between the two sides throughout the world today.
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this article posted by anon at 7:35 AM is very long but the most detailed and critical rendition I have yet read; did anyone read it?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35106.htm
Forget the photos…..read it.
Thanks for reposting that link. I read ICH daily, but somehow I missed that essay. It is absolutely essential reading!!!! The original link is here, http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
The Ledeen quote–“He [W. Bush] became president, but he didn’t know why, and on Sept 11, he discovered why”–shows the depth of planning for 911 and aftermath during Clinton’s reign.
That was me, Katherine.
“Anon” was a posting glitch.
I don’t believe in Anonymous posting.
Glad you found the article valuable.
Katherine
Thought I’d relate this story RE Roger Waters: When Pink Floyd came out with The Wall in ’78 or ’79 I was a pimply faced 18 yr old Operations Specialist on board the USS Turner Joy (DD951) and a huge Floyd fan. A week or so before the Albums release for sale the local big rock station out of LA; KMET was going to play the album in full, and I was going to be doing training exercises and would likely miss it. I volunteered to train on a piece of Electronic Warfare equipment, which was basically a super wideband receiver. I was supposed to be listening to pulse repetition rates of radars and logging the information… I was listening to The Wall.
The Turner Joy is now a naval museum in Bremerton WA., presumably because it and The Maddox were the two ships involved in the Gulf of Tonkin incident. CIC looks exactly as I remember it and possibly that same piece of equipment is still there. As far as the cold war link, we spent many days just outside of international boundaries following around Soviet “fishing vessels”, which tended to be rustbuckets with way too many antenneas sticking out of them. I remember being close enough that their guys would hold up centerfolds and our guys would cheer… pissing the old man off something fierce.
FTN!
The elite only want 4 things.
1) money
2) power
3) control
4) and last but not least, immortality
They are getting closer to #4. The Russian military should keep its powder dry for the time being. Let’s see if these neoconsuperdoopermen can get their vaccine against mortality first.
I’m for hastening their path to immortality by ending their mortal existence now.
Immortality implies an ability to resurrect should the linear continuity be interrupted, sort of a self-replication. So let’s test their strength now. What would we do later if they could reach longer life spans? As if they entitled and we should let them rule for centuries?
What loss is it if decimation of the Elites was on our own agenda?
After all, if these Elites were mustered toward the front lines and participated in the combat they would be targets. They hide far from the chaos and warfare, but the means to reach them is available.
I would not hesitate for a moment to rid the globe of any or all of these scum if they were on the receiving end of my sniper rifle or within range of my RPG or mortar shell.
Why are these Elites permitted to fly about the world in private planes sewing death and chaos?
Why are they considered noncombatants? They are the ultimate front line sappers.
They are the ultimate combatants using money, psy-ops, and hate.
Rethink the Resistance.
For those pacifists and rosary bead prayerful, meditate on the good. But step aside while the corrupt and evil purveyors are diminished.
We have traveled the path of the benign, obedient, surveil long enough.
They are out to kill billions of people. They have no need even for consumers in their new economy. It is a financial economy, with no products and services for consumption needed to amass their wealth. They do it with instruments, mergers, derivatives and fraud. Trade and commerce is old form. The new form they use as weaponry to destroy whole economies.
Rethink the Resistance.
It is time to cull the corrupt Elites. Law, justice, procedurals are ineffective.
Termination, neutralization is the proper tactic.
If a horde of marauders crashed over your walls and came to kill you, rape you, skin you and burn you at the stake, steal your property, defile your women and children and destroy all you have including your life, would you fight or pray?
The same people who root and weep for the people of Donbass and Syria and other zones of hell, turn from the reality that the same forces are coming for them. But they plan to remain pacifist, easy targets to be slain.
Totally irrational and not noble at all.
Are there other options? Sabotage their comfortable existences, sew confusion in their living spaces, disrupt their normalcy, create fear and dread in their way of life, track their travels and publicize everything they do, ostracize them.
That is a beginning.
However, realize their aims and goals and then you will see that only direct action to permanently end their existence (just as with any other gun-wielding terrorist or criminal) is the proper path to a saner world.
All of history’s lessons teach us this. All of philosophy teaches us that harmony and balance with the physical and spiritual in nature requires the elimination of deadly threats.
Red, you’re a genius: “ultimate front-line sappers” – love it!
They’ve anticipated your remedy, RR, thus the rise of the Surveillance & Police State. Too bad houses uprooted by tornadoes don’t fall upon the lot. Easier pickings would be the water carriers–lobbyists and think tank denizens, which seems to be the road to becoming installed as a government parasite: one must earn their stripes first.
It is fascinating that Peter Gabriel anticipated the ubiquity of too-much-information sharing on a global scale, really, he had a dream or vision of the future of soul-destroying information overload when he wrote this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb7htoJAK7g
If you think about it, this Orwellian song is about the NSA, GHCQ, Homeland Security, Facebook, Google, smartphones, and how all anonymity and peace of mind have been destroyed perhaps forever.
Thank you Red, very well summarized, it is coming we just have to patient
The American empire is dying. What changed?
Ten, twenty years ago life was easy: if you chose American, you prospered. That is no longer the case. Ukraine chose the US; Crimea chose Russia. Yet life in Ukraine is not better than life in Crimea. Europe chose the US; China chose the side of Russia. Europe is becoming poorer, China is becoming wealthier.
For the first time since 1945, choosing American does not guarantee prosperity. The choice has become much more complicated.
Excellent rant by Red Ryder. Remember when Prince Phillip wanted to be reincarnated as a disease to wipe out hundreds of millions of “useless eaters”? He doesn’t even like his minions, the Freemasons. He said once that he never became a Mason because he thought their initiation rites were silly. That’s easy for him to say; people become Masons to kiss the asses of people like him. He doesn’t have to become one.
When he first said “the tide is turning, Sylvester” I thought he meant Sylvester the Cat..
Rambo is pretty bad, but Dolph is worse. Perhaps Waters thinks Stallone’s machismo is more to blame because it glorifies war, but Hollywood has a lot of paper heroes.
Anyway, when I first listened to his album ‘Amused To Death’ in the 90s, I thought “Perfect Sense” was the greatest political song ever written, and in retrospect I also think it was visionary. Especially in the part about our global anthem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH1OVi2F6sU
(this is a very good video of the song)
And the lyrics are great:
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Perfect-Sense-Part-I-II-lyrics-Roger-Waters/A2D843CF7198E09B48256C05000AE9AB
You might want to add the names McCain, Graham, Rice, Power, Clinton/s, Biden and the jackass posing as the new defense secretary to the rogues gallery of war criminals and traitors.
Cold War: The pot is still on low boil
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/06/protests-in-kiev-who-ordered-them-and.html
They are everywhere, very depressing ,but we will go on with our plan doesn’t matter what
http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/quantum-physics/gob-smacking-hagmann–hagmann-report.html
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Obama: Rockefeller’s man in the White House close to total victory
Obama: Rockefeller’s man in the White House close to total victory
by Jon Rappoport
June 27, 2015
(To read about Jon’s mega-collection, The Matrix Revealed, click here.)
Tutored and mentored by David Rockefeller’s intellectual flunkey, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Barack Obama is close to winning his two gold stars for victory—and make no mistake about it, these were his two assignments from the First Globalist Family of Rockefeller:
Obamacare and Obamatrade.
Obamacare was and is a Rockefeller strategy for enforcing the pharmaceutical brand of medicine his ancestors pioneered early in the 20th century.
The US Supreme Court has just papered over an obvious loophole and contradiction in the law, to keep Obamacare intact: “the state exchanges vs. federal exchanges.” No problem. No issue. Suddenly, for the Court, the “original intent” of the law is the prime consideration—whereas original intent has been derided, bombarded, crushed, and ignored when it comes to that little document called the US Constitution.
Obama has also won vaunted, slam-dunk, “fast-track authority” on the three Globalist trade bills that will shortly arrive for Congressional approval, including the horrific TPP, which will grant Big Pharma more profits, as well as greater exemption in the matter of poisoning populations with their drugs.
Hope and change? Yes we can? Faded slogans for the kiddies who, with deplorable, gullible, glazed-over grins, helped put this Globalist front man in the White House.
Will they ever learn? Not a chance.
So…once again, I present my article, written several years ago, during the lead-up to the original Congressional vote that put Obamacare into the books as a binding law.
This is what mainstream reporters didn’t disclose and will never disclose.
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The Devastating Truth behind Obamacare:
“I want my Obamacare! I want my Obamacare!”
It’s vital to look at the real meaning of this sinister plan. It’s all about the toxic effects of mainstream medicine. That’s what the sold-out press is refusing to examine.
A year ago, I discussed the case of a young Michigan boy, whose parents had been taken to court three times to force them to submit their child to intensely toxic chemo treatments—despite these facts:
The boy’s latest scans revealed no sign of cancer; the drugs that would be forced on him can cause cancer; the drugs have not been approved to treat children.
And I warned: this is what waits for you and your children, up the line.
The “share and care” humanitarian mask will be peeled away. The US Dept. of Health and Human Services will create, as ordered, a complete list of approved treatments for every disease-label under the sun. And everyone in the insurance plan will be forced to take what the doctor tells them to take.
For a bonus, unapproved treatments will be banned. People and practitioners who try to use alternative treatments will find themselves in trouble.
This is the hidden agenda of Obamacare. This is what it will morph into in the future.
I’m not dreaming or fantasizing. I’ve been following and reporting on the medical cartel for 30 years, and I know the mindset of these people, these doctors, these bureaucrats, these pharmaceutical string-pullers behind the scenes. Obamacare is right up their alley. It’s about control, so it’s an answer to their prayers.
So what do we know about their mainstream medicine, the hospital-based drug-addled modern version?
On July 26, 2000, the Journal of the American Medical Association published a landmark paper by Dr. Barbara Starfield (Johns Hopkins School of Public Health), “Is US health really the best in the world?” In it, Starfield revealed what many people inside the medical establishment already knew: every year, like clockwork, the medical system was killing huge numbers of people.
Each year in the US, as Dr. Starfield reported, there are:
12,000 deaths from unnecessary surgeries;
7,000 deaths from medication errors in hospitals;
20,000 deaths from other errors in hospitals;
80,000 deaths from infections acquired in hospitals;
106,000 deaths from FDA-approved correctly prescribed medicines.
The total of medically-caused deaths in the US every year is 225,000 (a conservative estimate).
This makes the medical system the third leading cause of death in America, behind heart disease and cancer.
In the wake of Starfield’s devastating report, other facts came to light: 2.1 million people in America, every year, are hospitalized as a result of reactions to FDA-approved medicines. Annually, 36 million serious adverse reactions to those drugs occur.
So, inclusive health coverage for many more Americans under the Obama Plan means these horrendous figures will rise.
This is the dirty secret.
Obama and his allies are promoting a medical system that is the third leading cause of death in America. It’s that stark and it’s that simple.
The Obama Plan involves appointing an “expert panel” to decide what treatments Americans should be given for what diseases, under the new regime.
Only a certified idiot would assume that, over time, alternative non-mainstream therapies would survive such an ongoing vetting. Hope may spring eternal, but common sense makes it easy to grasp the realities on the ground.
In the long run, alternative therapies will be edged out. Those that remain will be permitted for a narrow range of conditions, or as adjuncts to standard drug treatments and surgery.
Chiropractors and acupuncturists, who are temporarily basking in the notion that Obama “really cares,” are in for a very rude awakening. Their careers and practices will be significantly reduced. Not today, not tomorrow, but it will happen.
Doctors, under the Plan, will be telling patients they may not take nutritional supplements while in treatment. This will assume the status of an irreversible edict. In many cases, “while in treatment” will mean years.
What happens to a person, conscripted into the mandated Insurance Plan, who is told by his doctor that he should/must receive a vaccine? Suppose this person says no? What are the consequences? Will he then be labeled a defector? What penalties will he suffer?
Does a diagnosis of cancer imply a patient must submit to chemotherapy, radiation, and surgery? Can these treatments be forced upon him?
Perhaps, in the early days of the Plan, nothing untoward will happen. But then, as time passes, and the system assumes tighter and tighter controls, the hand of government will close around the recalcitrant patient’s neck.
“Take this vaccine. Take this chemo drug. If you don’t, you’re in violation of the rules.”
Doctors, who are an integral part of the Plan, will surely be punished if they give unapproved (alternative) treatments to patients.
And in order to make the Plan operate on a day-to-day basis, the records and bookkeeping data of every health-care practitioner in America will be tracked on government computer networks.
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Orwellian consequences lie up the road in the field of psychiatric practice. In case you hadn’t noticed, the invention of “disorders” by committee is the preferred method for “discovering” more and more mental illnesses.
Yet, the science is completely fraudulent. For evidence, consult the many works of psychiatrist Peter Breggin, who has done more than any other person to expose the guts of his own profession. (breggin.com) Breggin establishes that mental disorders are not authoritatively diagnosed by a chemical or biological test. Conclusive tests do not exist. And worse, in this undefined and arbitrary territory, the drugs that follow diagnoses are killers: for example, 300,000 cases of motor brain damage, as a result of the administration of major tranquilizers.
Under the Obama Plan, you can bet your bottom dollar that psychiatric care will eventually become mandatory. A patient suddenly diagnosed with clinical depression or bipolar disease will be told he must take the drugs—and suffer their adverse effects.
Very young children will be given more and more debilitating and dangerous brain drugs.
Under the Obama Plan, it will be very convenient to declare new pandemics every few seasons, because these phony non-epidemics provide an opportunity to herd the sheep into clinics and remind them who is running the show. Go here, take this vaccine; go there, take that drug; the epidemic is endangering the herd, and you must help your brothers and sisters.
Yes, under the Obama Plan, there will be more declared health emergencies, and they will serve to cement the citizen to his new role as eternal patient in the medical march along bleak streets of the future.
Can you perceive the loss of individual freedom implicit in this universal system of health control?
The widespread (and false) assumption is that more medical care for more people is a good thing. That’s what the politicians and the press tell us. That’s what the medical bureaucrats and the drug companies tell us. This is the central piece of brainwashing.
It’s a bald-faced lie. It’s a death-dealing lie.
And now the American people are saddled with it.
Unless the current rebellion against Obamacare expands all over the country.
Jon Rappoport
The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails at NoMoreFakeNews.com and OutsideTheRealityMachine.
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Today, 28th June, is Vidovdan.
On this day, historically decisive events have happened (e.g assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, signing of Versailles treaty to name a few). I cannot help but feel that the events in Greece taking place right now will be significant for Europe and the world
Red Ryder suggests those who are the purveyors of Hell on Earth should receive their just reward at the hands of brave men. I ask, who among the vendors of global malevolence should be the first to taste liberty’s sweet revenge?
We all observe the evil of Washington that unfolds everyday, to plot and scheme against the American people, to steal our wealth and destroy the lives and property of any sovereign nation around the world who defies it. Who’s demise would carry the most impact? Typical choices are a: politician, bureaucrat, banker, corporate leader, strategic adviser, foreign lobbyist or military general. Maybe instead, an entity traditionally thought to be impartial and fair should be the recipient of the people’s wrath since in reality, it is the very mechanism the elitists use to carry the water for their covert agenda of one world government.
I’ll give a hint: Before the advent of television, people learned of the goings on in Washington by reading newspapers. When Abraham Lincoln was leading the charge for war against the southern States that left the Union, he was met with fierce resistance by newspaper journalists (“Copperheads”) who operated in the North. What did Lincoln do to squash dissent? He manipulated his loyal minions using clever rhetorical speech to attack these voices of reason by destroying their printing presses and physically beating up the editors to quiet them. So the government effectively silenced those opposed to the War of Secession by acts of intimidation.
Today, television is principally owned by large media corporations and is the major source of national news received by the public. These “mavens” of broadcast journalism act out carefully prepared Hollywood-like scripts designed to enjoin the citizenry to support the government’s various unconstitutional statutes and regulations as well as foreign policy initiatives that further imperialism and colonialism. They are nothing more than highly paid propagandists of government statism and a perversion of what the free press should be : a platform that presents both sides of an issue so the public can discern amongst themselves and ultimately decide what they want their government representatives to do concerning the details of the matter. But the citizenry is not encouraged to think and rationalize; they are being conditioned to accept and obey or suffer the pains of tyranny.
However, what would the government do without their media peacocks to twist the nation into believing their mendacity is really Orwellian truth? If these popular television news celebrities were to abruptly “disappear” who would take their place? Yes, another contemptible spawn would be chosen but after awhile the word in the industry would get around that no amount of money that News Corporation or Time Warner can offer is worth the loss of their mortal existence.
The government needs peddlers of propaganda to present the public with the illusion of impartiality. Perhaps the crosshairs of justice should focus on these video charlatans and not the more obvious personalities.
@ Saker!
Thank You so much !
Have you seen this:
http://www.vice.com/video/apocalypse-man-part-1 ?
(parts 2-6?)
Message to everyone: Listen to Mike Rupert’s last messages.
Was not so easy for me to get awareness. Mike Rupert was essential from about 2003/4. Lately, The Saker triggered my conscious not to get asleep in all those high-tech mind-shaping 24/24 hour propaganda flood stuffs.
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