Question: Can you comment on the recent statement by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on the US-Chinese relations?
Maria Zakharova: We noted US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s remarks on US-Chinese relations made on July 23 at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library.
We were surprised by the defiant tone of Mr Pompeo’s statements, which predictably contained crude references to China, its social and political system and its leaders. Unfortunately, these things are common in US foreign policy diplomacy these days.
The tension in relations with Beijing being provoked by Washington, in addition to harming the United States and China, is also seriously complicating international affairs. These two countries are permanent members of the UN Security Council and play an important role in global affairs. Together with the other Security Council members, they bear a special responsibility for maintaining global stability.
We regard Pompeo’s statement on the possibility of dragging Moscow into the US anti-Chinese campaign as yet another naive attempt to complicate the Russian-Chinese partnership, and drive a wedge into the friendly ties between Russia and China. We intend to further strengthen our cooperation with China because we regard this cooperation as the most important factor in stabilising the situation around the world.
Usually we get Maria Zakharova’s briefings in full on the Russian Foreign Ministry Site. This question though was handled separately, with a separate posting. I am convinced it is because of this sentence.
“We intend to further strengthen our cooperation with China because we regard this cooperation as the most important factor in stabilising the situation around the world.”
And I would agree that currently it is China/Russia that is actually stabilising our world. If it is not clear across the world now, that the US and cronies (who seem to be not so committed to empire these days, notably Germany), are now the force for war and destabilisation.
Pirate Ships
Well, I’d put it a little bit differently,
To indulge Pamela’s love of the Sea:
Considered from many more levels
Nations are just like sailing vessels,
Sometimes steered by Cap’n Hook
Or Commandeered by Cap’n Crook.
The sailors are often a mutinous lot.
So,many a voyage comes to naught!
The passengers seek safe passage
Have “issues” and too much baggage!
Then comes Ship or House of Morgan
Friendly Flag (skull and bones verborgen!) German = Hidden
The Ship of State taken, by privateers,
The Fools now captained by buccaneers,
Are along for a bumpy, hazardous ride.
And so it is with London, Athens or Rome
Or capital of whatever land mass is home
To whatever human beings that reside
On this globe afloat in this cosmic tide.
“Usually we get Maria Zakharova’s briefings in full on the Russian Foreign Ministry Site. This question though was handled separately, with a separate posting. I am convinced it is because of this sentence.”
In former days there was a “profession” called Kremlinologists who determined relative positions in the Politburo to where they were standing in relation to the “leader” atop the Lenin mausoleum on November 7th.
Red Square is cold and usually windy on 7th November, there was no toilet in/on the Lenin mausoleum and old men tend to have weak bladders, hence they went back into the Kremlin proper to attend to calls of nature, changing their position relative to the “leader”.
You noticed the anomoly of the communication but apparently failed to perceive the alternative portal chosen since such might seem usual in a US context but ridiculous in a Russian context.
Ms. Zakharova resorted to Facebook understanding that many Russians would understand the connotations.
I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish here but the Russian Federation still makes formal diplomatic statements formally. Facebook is not an ‘alternative portal’.
You are right, amarynth, of course. (BTW, the man is obviously completely out of his marbles. The Saker will probably not admit him here for long. In the meantime, we should simply ignore him.)
It is also possible that we’re being spammed by a bot. If so, banning these ”submissions” is even more to the point.
”We were surprised by the defiant tone of Mr Pompeo’s statements, which predictably contained crude references to China”
”Surprised” at something ”predictable”, ¿ qué ? Who the ^ * % # is surprised by the rantings of rabid, clueless imbeciles?
The contrast in handling international affairs between Mike Pompeo and Maria Zakharova couldn’t be greater.
The latest humbug in closing down consulates, after a lot of hissing, might be boiling down to something very simple, Americans think they are above laws and measures, while having Covid-19 completely out of control themselves: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/07/us-china-spat-over-quarantine-and-consulates-continues-.html
It’s simply pathetic to see, hear and read.
“Unfortunately, these things are common in US foreign policy diplomacy these days.”
Only these days Maria ?
It has been like this since 1776!!!
“Maria Vladimirovna” for you, sir, as I’m sure you haven’t even been introduced to her.
On the substance of your comment, I’d say many of the earlier administrations still practiced minimum courtesy in diplomatic relations – before money and power went to their heads.
And while US diplomacy has been nothing but arrogance and bully tactics for decades now, Pompeo has brought it to an asounding level of grossness, churlishness and stupidity.
Maria Zakharova is being professionally diplomatic and civil in her speech, unlike the unrofessional buffoons employed by the United States.
„US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s remarks on US-Chinese relations made on July 23 at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library.“ Popeye basically called upon the Chinese people to topple, with US support, their own government. However, judging from the shock reactions in Berlin, Tokyo, Seoul, London and Delhi, I think Popeye‘s true aim was to scare US client states into compliance. China is really not a threat to the US Empire. A global mutiny is! Hence the underlying threat of color revolution and regime change! Watch those capitals mentioned above during the coming weeks all falling in line again! Problem solved. All good again. China can keep its government, because it’s all alone, so who cares.
You forgot Santiago… (nobody cares, Chile is too small) This in April 2019:
Pompeo warned Piñera: “We know that Russia and China will come knocking on your door. And when they are allowed to pass, we already know what is happening, “adding:” … but once they enter the house, they set traps, ignore the rules and spread the disorder. ”
https://elpueblo.cl/2019/04/15/mike-pompeo-en-chile/
Then fast forward to Oct 2019, when APEC has to be cancelled due to the national protests that drag on for months.
““We know that Russia and China will come knocking on your door. And when they are allowed to pass, we already know what is happening,”
In hope that Chileans have completely forgotten the years from 1970 to date, another resort to bluff is attempted.
Maria Zakharova also had an interesting briefing on 23 July. One of her many topics concerned the claim that the Russians were hacking vaccine research in the West.
The final paragraph in her rebuttal introduced, to me at least, a new term of art for intelligence assessments:
“We would like to advise the British National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC) which is successfully promoting this fake story to rely on information backed by specific and irrefutable evidence, instead of claiming 95-percent certainty all over the world. We have already heard about the “highly likely” concept that was replaced by the “almost likely” term. And now, they are talking about 95-percent certainty. Please come again when you score 100 percent.”
You have to love “almost likely”
I, for one, do love the expression ’almost likely’. According to the meaning of the words almost and likely, the unintended result of applying this half-wit concept is actually to dismiss something as being below credibility. Certainly a most appropriate verdict on the ideas of congenital liars
Thanks for the chuckle … delightful!
To parapharse Ms. Zakharova being the accomplished diplomat that she is, she is essentially saying :
“… While its unfortunate to see that an incompetent buffoon is now in charge of the US State Department, Russian and China as responsible players on the global stage, will not allow Mr. Pompeo colassal stupidity to distract us from our strategic mission..”
Selah
Don’t forget, Pompeo (we lied, we cheated, we stole) is also a Christian Zionist. Anything he says in relation to China, Russia, and especially Iran, has to be understood in the context of his Dominionist wet-dream, that transformative apocalyptic war which will be the end of the USA as we know it.
Part of his crazy calculation is that an attack on Iran will draw Russia and China into a war where the USA will have their collective asses handed to them in a basket. This war will undoubtedly go nuclear within days or even hours as our nuclear forces have years ago ceased to be a deterrent, rather, a first strike force where dialed-down mini nukes capable of destroying a bunker or a building have replaced weapons designed to take out a city. This can only escalate into full-scale nuclear warfare. These folks have a hard-on for Armageddon and a desperate Trump might just give it to them.
What war, Tommy?
The sane goal is to not have such a war. One thing you could do to defuse the Armageddon Bonkers/Bunkers set is to not talk one up as “inevitable”.
That’s what they feed off of, so starve them, instead of chumming the waters with fear and loathing and “inevitable” insanity that confirms their illness as realism.
Russia and China are deterring such a war and I doubt if either has any interest in starting one.
Ditto Trump. SO why, pray tell should he be “desperate” to start one? It sounds like projection!
I don’t expect Pompeo to last much longer. Nor Pence.
You’re living in a Trumpster dream world if you think he isn’t at this point desperate to stay in power. He faces numerous felony counts, including money laundering and tax evasion, once he leaves office. A major war would be his “get out of jail free” card as it would provide the “national emergency” that would enable him to declare martial law and suspend the November elections. He absolutely has the power to do that…
“The moment the president declares a “national emergency”—a decision that is entirely within his discretion—more than 100 special provisions become available to him. While many of these tee up reasonable responses to genuine emergencies, some appear dangerously suited to a leader bent on amassing or retaining power.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/01/presidential-emergency-powers/576418/
Yes, “the sane goal is not to have such a war”, but Trump and the Christian Zionists who comprise his rock-solid base are far from sane.
Trump prefers to abscond to a friendly country rather than be re-elected, because the White House would only protect him for four more years. He talks about disputing the election to keep the attention on that eventuality. My bet is on Turkey — second choice Saudi Arabia. Any other suggestions out there?
The only “friendly” country that I know would take him would be Israel, or maybe he would join his Likudnik bankster pals in the City of London.
To believe that Trump runs the show is naive: Pompeo, Barre and a few others run it. See how Barre deftly handles his testimony in front of a congressional committee this coming week. The only people who care about Trump are the white supremacists.
Deena: Did I say Trump is 100% “running the show”????
I did not.
There has quite obviously been an enormous struggle going on ever since the day he took office. I realize many of you consider him weak and stupid….and the diametrical opposite of “running the show”:
Namely 100% co-opted, rotten anyway…..so War Between The Major Powers Is Inevitable And A Forgone Conclusion.
This coming week should give at least a few of you ………..some pause…… from such dangerous cynicism.
Which I do not believe Putin shares with y’all.
Harley breaks down the fight…………..with that Putin/Trump recent telephone call at the center of it,……….. where it belongs,
https://youtu.be/RGHCogNXAnA
War Party’s Lies Exposed, But Drive for War Continues!
and which I have not heard a ONE of you mention. Such dread, fear, and loathing paralyzes the mind from carrying out the sort of creative flanking initiatives which are required………..and are furthermore very ripe for the harvesting.
THAT IS: If the aggregate consciousness is not so cynical and blind as to refuse to see the strategic opportunities for Sanity to Prevail….and do their small but indispensable part in the process.
Tommy’s reaction is 100% in accord with the wishes of the Empire Profilers, BTW. Sad!
As well as wrong.
Cheers!
Maria Z patience seems to be wearing thin:
In this tweet from 3 says ago she refers to USA, Britain and Canada as “pseudo-friends”
https://mobile.twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1286311089140109313
Quite a downgrade from the usual “partners”.
“Quite a downgrade from the usual “partners”.
Not really, just communicated using different register which was “interpreted” by some according to their expectations.
Co-operators, colleagues, and partners etc was in acknowledgement of the complicity/help of opponents in facilitating outcomes prejudicial to themselves, even when attempting a colour revolution in Russia in the 1990s, through lack of perception of “talents” gained by Russians and others, including through experience of “The Soviet Union”.
“In this tweet from 3 says ago she refers to USA, Britain and Canada as “pseudo-friends”
Words are catalyst of connotations and in Russia culture a connotation of “pseudo friends” is “facebook friends”
enhanced by using “Facebook”. as portal – ergo imaginary/virtual/no friends in contradiction of Russian culture which is more co-operative and values friendship highly.
“Maria Z patience seems to be wearing thin:”
That may be your interpretation but given her extensive training and mentoring unlikely to be the case.
Not sure I follow…
This tweet was in response to hacking accusations against Russia for Covid19 vaccine. Did you see the photo she added?
“Not sure I follow…”
The acceptance of doubt is always beneficial, hence why some social relations encourage aversion to doubt and practices of bridging doubt by belief to attain certainty/comfirmation/bias/”plausible belief”.
Some social relations are predicated on equal but different facilitating coercion/competition/inequality, whilst some are predicated on equal and different facilitating both equality and difference facilitating co-operation, since all are different in some assay.
Consequently the acceptance of difference is always beneficial, hence why some social relations ensure that difference carries connotations of threat.
“Did you see the photo she added?”
Some do not assign significance/reliance to/upon images/theater but assign significance to other tested datastreams as referenced in OlyaPola on July 26, 2020 · at 8:59 pm EST/EDT.
Many including Ms. Zakharova have benifited from training and mentoring in the field.
Another who has benefited is Mr. Trump.
Enjoy your journey.
pompeo certainly doesnt know the term diplomancy. his version is akin to school yard bully. eye rolls every time he speaks.
and with a dutiful media printing articles like this
https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/trump-may-have-canceled-gop-convention-in-florida-for-threat-of-indoor-drone-weapon-deployment-with-fentanyl-payload-from-china/
its no wonder he doesnt feel any need to soften his tongue. relentless lies and hypocritical actions , a hallmark of the “freedumb world”
She is the most skilled, talented and most competent Press Secretary on Planet Earth. Pompus Minimus needs to read “Who Lost Russia?” and learn the facts before shooting of his mouth.
/who-lost-russia/
Well, there is nothing like giving a recalcitrant bully a good spanking at school, is there?
Especially if the spanking is done by a woman and the whiplash comes from her words, not a physical object….