By Batiushka for the Saker Blog
I have noticed that there are a few reviewers of the Special Operation in the Ukraine who seem to support it only because they are racist, anti-Ukrainian. Let it be made clear that this is not the case of the overwhelming majority of its supporters. And it is certainly not the case of the vast majority of the Russian forces involved in the Operation. For example, if you watch videos of captured or active Ukrainian troops, they virtually all express themselves only in Russian. True, the former Prime Minister, Dmitry Medvedev, did make some ambiguous remarks about certain Ukrainians, but he was not referring to all Ukrainians, as we explain below.
The fact is that Russians and Ukrainians are ethnically one, they are brothers and sisters, all East Slavs and also virtually all Orthodox Christians by culture. This is particularly why Russian forces are doing their utmost not to harm civilians or damage civilian infrastructure. That is why when Kiev troops are killed in action, Russians refer to them not as ‘Ukrainians’, but as ‘nationalists’, who are those to whom Dmitry Medvedev was referring in his remarks that the nationalists are ‘bastards and scum’. The Ukrainians are not the enemy, the enemy is the puppet regime in Kiev, its NATO string-pullers and its brainwashed nationalist/Nazi supporters.
President Putin explained from the very outset and very clearly that the US-created puppet regime in Kiev, with its Nazi/NATO/Zionist backers, is an Anti-Russia. It does not represent the mass of the Ukrainian people, so many of whom have close family in Russia, or now live in Russia, or are married to Russians, or who only speak Russian and not Ukrainian, or who are Russian by culture. The Kiev regime represents only the corrupted elite who choose its politicians and the brainwashed who supported them. We, on the other hand, are pro-Ukrainian, precisely because we are anti-Nazi/anti-NATO/anti-Zionist. We are pro-Ukrainian, life-affirming, not life-denying. We affirm Ukrainian families, not the Nazi-imposed LGBT. Similarly, we are pro-American, but anti-American elite. We want the American people and soul to be liberated from their brainwashing elite.
In the same way Russian soldiers in the First World War were not anti-German, but anti-Kaiser, and in the Second World War were not anti-German, but anti-Nazi. Accounts from the First War tell how Russian soldiers who had wounded advancing German troops in self-defence would crawl out of their trenches at risk to their own lives to pick the wounded up and carry them back for medical care. Many eyewitnesses from the Second War used to tell us how captured German soldiers were given crusts of bread by Russians, who themselves were virtually starving. On the Western side we can something similar portrayed in the well-known novel by Erich Maria Remarque, ‘Im Westen Nichts Neues’, ‘All Quiet on the Western Front’, or in poems by the English soldier Siegfried Sassoon.
We are very far from the racist mocking of other races by, for example, white US soldiers, who called their enemies ‘savages’, ‘redskins’ (the very word ‘redskin’ denotes the essential superficiality of the Nazi obsession with skin colour as a defining trait), ‘niggers’, ‘chinks’, ‘dagos’, ‘nips’, ‘gooks’ or mocked them as subhuman (a translation of the Nazi ‘Untermensch’), or monkeys. Who can forget how only a few years ago the American Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld, called the French ‘cheese-eating surrender monkeys’, had French champagne poured into the New York sewers and launched a ‘Cancel France’ campaign. All this merely displays the utter ignorance and primitive arrogance of the users of such words.
‘Cancel everyone who does not agree with us’, or in the words of the remarkably limited Bush Junior: ‘You are either are with us or against us’. It reminds us that some of the first WASPS to arrive in North America were people who were so intolerant that they could no longer live in England side by side with others who had different views. So they chose to emigrate. Later they proved their intolerance by engaging in witch-hunts and burning innocent women to death. And most of them took part in the genocide of the native people whose land they had stolen and used black slaves. And this intolerance is what their descendants are still displaying today on their Facebook and Twitter and Instagram. ‘We cancel and exclude you and your account because you refuse to agree with us and our ‘superior’ (= Nazi) ‘intelligence’ (= stupidity).
The problem has never been one of Ukrainians. The problem has always been that of the spiritual disease of Nazism. And that is what it is – a spiritual disease. Once the soul of the Ukraine has been liberated from this disease, in other words, once it has been denazified, a New Ukraine will be born. It may well take the form of a Protectorate centred around Kiev and speak a mixture of Ukrainian with Russian and Surzhyk (Ukrainian Russian). It will have secure borders and its people will be patriotic Ukrainians, not in some racist way that denigrates others, but in a positive way that respects others. Once freed of parasitic oligarchs and corruption, the naturally rich New Ukraine could have a brilliant future and take a positive part in the Concert of the Nations.
Once it has been understood that there is no problem with the Ukraine or Ukrainians, but only with Nazism, there may take place other Special Operations in other parts of the world. China may soon launch an Operation in Taiwan to free the ethnic Chinese there from the Nazism of its US-appointed elite. As for Russia, it has not yet finished the job in the Ukraine, where the task is constantly being extended because the Nazi West keeps sending long-range missiles and artillery to Kiev. As long as these weapons are in use, firing on Donetsk or anywhere else in liberated territory, the war will be extended and continue. Russia may physically have to liberate the whole country, mobilising more forces beyond the small expeditionary force it originally sent.
And then if Western aggression continues, it may have to launch other operations in Moldova and the Baltics in order to liberate those peoples too from NATO Nazism, from their corrupt US-appointed elites and EU exploitation. It may have to rebuild them, so that their peoples, economic refugees from corruption living now in Western Europe, can gratefully come home. Beyond that, as regards Western Europe in general, it too will surely one day find itself liberated one way or another from transatlantic tyranny and threats, safe under the Russian security and nuclear umbrella. Someone must defend Western Europe from the threats which for the moment are still coming from outside Afro-Eurasia, which is 86% of the world. Only Russia can do that. Russian troops once liberated Berlin and Paris. Will it have to happen again and maybe this time be extended to include Rome, Madrid and London?
The Special Operation has never been only about the Ukraine. It has always been a proxy conflict on the territory claimed by the Kiev regime. In reality, it is an Operation to defeat Global Nazism – euphemistically called ‘Globalism’. This means defeating Nazism militarily, by destroying the Western-created Kiev regime forces and all the extra NATO weapons foolishly sent to the Ukraine; territorially, by liberating lands and peoples from the Nazi yoke; economically, by creating an alliance of friends among the huge populations of the new G8, of Russia, China, India, Brazil, Indonesia, Iran, Turkey, Mexico, approaching 50% of the world’s population. This is called to replace the old, tired, narrow, US-manipulated G7, which represents scarcely 10% of the world’s population. And even the new G8 may yet be doubled to become a G16 to include other vital large countries, like Pakistan, Nigeria, Bangladesh, Ethiopia, the Philippines, Egypt, Vietnam and DR Congo. This would include 60% of the world’s population.
The great task before us is to rebalance the world to take account of its real peoples. As an example of the need to rebalance, over a century ago the Russian Prime Minister Count Piotr Stolypin, speaking of Tsar Nicholas’ ‘Great Asian Programme’ and its partial sabotage by the Western Powers through their Japanese puppet, said the following: ‘Our eagle is a legacy of New Rome…a two-headed eagle. Of course, our eagle is strong and powerful, but if you cut off one of our eagle’s heads, the one facing east, you will not turn him into a one-headed eagle facing west: It will only make him bleed to death’. However, NATO/Nazism has been doing precisely the opposite, trying to remake Russia in its own provincial image and so bleed it to death by cutting off one of its heads.
This is not going to happen, whatever the illusions that were fostered within the West during the treacherous Yeltsin regime in the distant and disastrous 1990s. We have moved on a generation, we are now well into the 21st century. Russia is now a restored Eurasian Superpower, its double-headed eagle looking East and West, and the Eurasian Heartland, with 70% of the world’s population and so many living ancient civilisations, is the present and the future of the whole world. Russia’s task is to bring the Non-Russian part of Europe, in the Western part of the European Peninsula, back into the Eurasian orbit, liberating that Western Peninsula from its colonial vassal status to the USA, denazifying and demilitarising it too.
For eight long years Western countries, dominated by the Nazi ideology of the ‘The West is Best’, together with US-backed separatists in Kiev, have been terrorising and murdering thousands of Ukrainians in the war in the Donbass. They have taunted the largest nation in the world, the Russian bear. For 23 years before that, they humiliated the Russian bear. Did they really think they could continue doing this to the restored bicontinental Superpower, with its profound cultural tradition and vast natural resources, without which Europe cannot live? It is so very sad to see how irresponsible Western leaders grasp so little of the consequences of their actions. Have they never heard the word ‘boomerang’?
At great cost Russia’s highly-professional, world-class-equipped and brilliantly-trained armies already liberated and saved Europe from forms of Nazism twice in the past, in 1814 and in 1945. This is the third time that the West has poked the bear. As soon as possible, you Western politicians had better stop sending lethal NATO arms to Nazis in the Ukraine, sue for peace and grant all that the Russian Federation and the Non-Nazi population of the Ukraine wishes. We are pro-Ukrainian, but we are anti-Nazi. You have been warned.
NA • 5 hours ago
Russia’s friendly relations with Israel are tested beyond breaking points everyday. Yet Russia only moans about severe, multiple stab wounds in its back from its dear friend, Israel. For a few examples, Israel has stabbed Russia in the back in Syria (endangering and killing Russia’s military), Ukraine (providing weapons and even fighters to kill Russians), and Lebanon (where Israel is planning to steal gas from Lebanon and deliver it to Europe to replace Russian gas). I would say to Russia, with a friend like that, you need no enemies. I wonder if Israel makes it on Russia’s list for a nuclear warhead when WWIII starts with Israel’s help?
https://news.antiwar.com/2022/06/16/report-us-secretly-reviews-and-approves-many-israeli-airstrikes-in-syria/
– multiple stab wounds in its back
We are all stabbed in the back
– Americans by Joe Biden and his no to Keystone pipeline
– Americans by Fauci / FDA / CDC
– Aussies by medical tyrrany / own government
– Chinese by medical tyrrany / own government
I would not be surprised if all these governments are summary executed by angry people
Good point
You missed out the British People.
We’ve been stabbed in the back and almost every thing that was good about us has been reversed thought overt social engineering across my entire life. Our very numbers were diluted by a process of simultaneous physical replacement via immigration and social engineering to make us less keen (or able) to start families! The obliteration of our national identity even included the phenomenon known as the “brain drain” in the 1960’s where all of our brightest and best were lured away form the country with financial inducements etc, which simultaneously our education system departed from controlled flight in the intellectual upper altitude, and plummeted through the seventies as progressive and comprehensive education replaced the “trivium”.
If I wasn’t “bonkers” in a very specific way involving enhanced pattern recognition and intelligence, I’d be as unable to see it as most of my countrymen currently seem.
Meanwhile, back at the war, as I type this, someone probably died in a hideous and painful way and someone else took a psychological injury for pulling the trigger.
What? You don’t think that the guy who pulls the trigger remains unchanged by the event? That for years afterwards he doesn’t wonder about one particular person he blew away, and feel guilt or sadness for their family?
Sadly, The Russians visibly kicked off this particular round of mass killing with the S.M.O. (even if it was pre-emptive as many claim) and it’s set back my campaign of asking friends and family “why are there no Russian goods in the shops any more?” along with “why did we never engage with them after the wall came down?” quite severely…
saber, from what I see, Israel stabs all its “friends” in the back. US included.
Including their own population…
The truth is that all the ‘Western’ polities are semi-autonomous regions of the ‘Israel Commonwealth’.
Israel e Rússia se enfrentam pela Ucrânia
Israel tentou seguir uma linha neutra em relação à Ucrânia, mas comentários do ministro das Relações Exteriores israelense e uma resposta veemente do Ministério das Relações Exteriores da Rússia colocaram em perigo as relações dos dois estados, relata Joe Lauria no Consortium News.
Israel and Russia clash over Ukraine
Israel tried to take a neutral line on Ukraine, but comments by the Israeli foreign minister and a vehement response from the Russian Foreign Ministry jeopardized relations between the two states, reports Joe Lauria in Consortium News.
Good points !.
But please don’t stop till all is deNAziTOnificated for good…
The whole Humanity won’t forget & will be very grateful forever.
большое спасибо
The economic arhitecture forecast is very interesting. I hope, however, that nobody underevaluates the cupidity of the western “civilization” and their ability to manoeuver. Hopefully, at a certain moment, we will retrieve ourselves in a society where putting a flag on a book is no longer forbidden.
The global nazi attitude is very much related to a certain complex of superiority which was largely fueled over time by the very attitude of people from various parts of the world toward westerners. They were very skillful in using their culture and trade power to subjugate and control smaller nations(often naive) combining it with a very complex networking of ruling classes. I guess that this superiority complex will start to dilute in the next couple of years and we will quit for good this hypermarket culture which becomes very much one very well described by one of my french friends: “metro, boulot, dodo”. French people, German people, Italian or Spaniols are all fine the issue is that their leadership is very bad and this must stop. You don’t need there pro russians, pro americans or pro chinese, you just need humans and that’s why I think that the stake here is not only to denazify the leadership but, in a more constructive way, to rehumanize western ruling class.
There are a 1000+ people in the world(1000 in Africa alone), all superior in their niche.
These are perfectly adapted to desert war
https://i.ndtvimg.com/mt/2015-01/Houthi_Rebels_AP_650_1.jpg
Absolutely. Before the special operation, I didn’t even know which Russian-speakers I knew were of Russian or of Ukrainian descent. In my opinion, the problem is the map, not the people.
Clearly, the body of people that heavily identify as ethnic Ukrainian occupy a much smaller area than the entire country known as Ukraine. I support a Ukraine for Ukrainians, just not the entire modern territory, which is at least 1/5 non-Ukrainian. If they want to speak Ukrainian, eat Ukrainian, dress Ukrainian, dance Ukrainian, and screw Ukrainian, then more power to them: just don’t impose their ethnicity on others that don’t identify that way.
Yes, this is the issue with Nazism; it works in on a small scale, in a homogenous society, but it becomes hypocritical when it becomes expansionary. Nevertheless, there cannot be nations without nationalists. Alexander Dugin lays out a framework of a mosaic of sovereign territories that he calls Eurasianism. Quite frankly, I believe that’s the only way forward to avoid endless conflict.
«people that heavily identify as ethnic Ukrainian occupy a much smaller area than the entire country known as Ukraine. I support a Ukraine for Ukrainians, just not the entire modern territory, which is at least 1/5 non-Ukrainian.»
The meaning of “ukrainian” means two rather different things:
* A state’s citizenship, in the sense that the northern irish are “british” and the zakarpattians are “ukrainian” or the wallons are “belgian” or kalmiks are “russian”.
* An ethnic group, and in that sense “ukrainian” really means “ruthenian”, an ethnic group in western Ukraine and western Belarus, regions annexed to the USSR from Poland.
Most “ukranian” citizens are in the ethnic sense “russian”, as different from the russian average as any subset of ethnic russians in the Russian Federation, or the long terms residents of any USA state from the USA average. Many of them still want their own state, like the austrians, who are recognizably ethnically german, or most belarussians, who are recognizably ethnically russian, want their own state.
But the real problem is many ruthenians, a separate ethnic group, have a fascist xenophobic attitude where they want to recreate “Greater Ruthenia” in the whole of Ukraine by making second class residents, or ethnically cleansing, or massacring or expelling other ethnicities, and not just the russians, but also the magyars, the romanians, the bulgarians, and even the greeks and italians who have lived in Ukraine for centuries or thousands of years.
The lithuanian-polish-ruthenian “intermarium” empire was conquered by Catherine II as recently as 1795, and the many lithuanian, pole, ruthenian revanchists fantasize of recreating it by using other powers (the germans in WW2, the USA currently) to help them cut down to size and break up first the USSR and then the Russian Federation. So far they have been quite successful.
– And that is what it is – a spiritual disease
I.e. Mein Kampf
Hitler was no writer. Some professional wrote Mein Kampf, obviously a well formulated political analysis. Most will still agree with: “I am an anti-Zionist of course”
“Well formulated”?! Read for yourself next time instead of reading what some Internet guy says, Mein Kampf is many things but it´s not “Well formulated” nor was there a “professional” writer involved. It reads like an AD/HD guy wrote it, it jumps wildly between subjects.
This is from a posting below some hours ago … (What Mein Kampf could tell the world – before Israel existed 100 years ago. Prophetic like the Bible. Mein Kampf is a most read book in modern time?)
-It is not a well-known fact that a ertain midget state in North Africa/South-East Asia controls all of the West, including the US, UK, and NATO.
(When I discuss in family this attittude will be formulated)
(Compare Mein Kampf to the sosiology crap that is being distributed by universities, including Das Kapital)
Israel was concepted 80 years before WWII started
-It is not a well-known fact that a ertain midget state in North Africa/South-East Asia controls all of the West, including the US, UK, and NATO.
Message is so easy to understand it can be primary school curriculum. Forget math in primary school – too difficult.
That makes a good reading – simplicity.
Then the teachers could add war is because some make money on it (… and peace is because some make money on it.)
Also from posting below … a Mein Kampf mantra
– The West is now ruled by super rich, organized Jewry and Luciferians and their masonic puppets
@Dane.
ADHD — Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
That’s what Adolf’s voice suggested over the radio, and his mannerisms suggested on film.
Adrenalin burst was the great drawing power of Nazism.
“Anger, sweeter than honey” — Homer, The War against Troy.
Well, one could also surmise that he was truly stressed as he had spent several months in Porton Down, with Brit Intel in the eartly 30s, he had 2 Brit Intel minders through the war, Baron William de Ropp, amd Putzi Hanfsteingl. Hitler was financed by London bankers through Warburg Bank US, fuelled by Standard Oil US to extend the war, his tank engines by Ford US, and his propaganda movies were made by Fox MovieTone News. Calculators by IBM.
General Electric raised capital on Wall Street to fund production of the V-2 rocket because the Nazis could not afford the program. The funding was given to Osram to build a light factory in Brazil but was diverted through Lisbon and Switzerland to AEG which was the GEC subsidiary in Germany who bought the production rights for the V-2. Prescott Bush was involved in this. Not forgetting other helpers.. Swedish SKF supplying some 85% of all bearings for Adolf’s vehicles, Portugal sending vanadium for guns. Then we had Hitler allow 300K Brits to go home safely after his Generals cornered them at Dunkirk. Don’t knock him too much, he was on of ours in the WW2 ‘game’.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/uk-column-news-17th-june-2022
Video 14:45 —
About BBC running Ukrainian propaganda long before war started.
BBC is working for WWIII ?
I remember Boris Johnson demanding Zelensky never to make peace talk with Russia
@Thomas Turk.
Many thank for additional info to file away, on Hitler’s long career as “one of ours” asset to Anglo Zio Capitalism.
It surprised me to read that Hitler “spent several months in Porton Down, with Brit Intel in the eartly 30s”. My sole knowledge of Porton Down in Salisbury stems from much later, when it was known as the Biological & Biochemical Warfare Lab which produced “friendly microbes” that made vaccine, and funny Novijoke “the deadly poison that kills nobody”. Are you sure Hitler went to Porton Down to consult British Intel? If so, I guess our Adolf also consulted them on microbial & chemical agents for a Final Solution.
Your mention of Swedish ball bearings also throws light on a cryptic remark made to me by a Swedish scientist with whom I chatted to informally at a meeting we both attended in Porton Down. I needed a certain precision machine, and the Swede replied: “I am sure we could supply the ball bearings”.
xvfsb below is giving us a link telling exactly who the nazis were, MI6 and BBC. That is the same as what Russian-speaking Juri Lina found in Soviet documents
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2011/07/05/anglo-saxon-roots-of-german-nazism/
Then we understand more about “The Anglo-Saxon Mission”, the blueprint for war on the Chinese people using (vaccines).
Since Zelensky admin is trained by BBC, Zelensky admin becomes = the WWII nazis.
Boris Johnson the same.
Now we have an interesting question
“The man behind the infamous dossier that raises the possibility that Donald Trump may be vulnerable to Kremlin blackmail is Russia expert Christopher Steele, formerly of M.I.6. Here’s the story of his investigation.”
If Christopher Steele is a nazi, and Christopher Steele worked for Hillary / Obama / Adam Schiff … what does that make of Hillary / Obama / Adam Schiff ?
Today Nazie Pelosie spoke of the war on Iraq. She must have had sex with king Georgie bushie and caught his dis ease.
Every American Democrat supports this war, which makes them Nazies too. Not Democratic. Imagine if Americans had an actual vote…it would be against the war I hope.
But we have nothing to vote for at all. Never had .
I’d vote for Putin….
Or, can i vote for Julian Assange?
“Every American Democrat supports this war” is a political opinion divorced from the facts. Even some of the Washington scumbags have to have their arms twisted before they vote the right way. Neither do I see Republicans lining up to stop the war, which they could easily do. But just like the Blue Wing of the omniparty, the Red Wing want jobs and dollars flooding into the bases and arms manufacturers in their home states. Neither would Trump do anything different. He tried to do business with Russia, the Deep State said no, so he appointed a bunch of nazi neocons to run things and started warmongering against China instead.
If 50% of what “Grasshopper Kaplan” writes about where we find the nazis i true, then all the Swastika-taatoo-thinking of RT is nonsense.
A better way to describe the contemporary West than Nazi is needed. The Nazi’s wanted their own population to dominate, thrive and increase. The West is now ruled by super rich, organized Jewry and Luciferians and their masonic puppets and compromised and corrupt politicians. The rulers hate and despise the general white population and actively attack us on multiple levels simultaneously because they want us replaced, and they are succeeding.
These methods include racial discrimination against whites in elite college admissions, scholarships, hiring and promotion, mass immigration, whipping up racial hatred against whites and gender hatred against men, promoting homosexuality and transgenderism, insulting our culture, traditions, religion and history, mandating dangerous and sterilizing “vaccines”, and using the media, corporations and educational and legal systems to demonize any opposition to it all.
The only ideological commonalities of the current West with Nazis is that they both have a chosen people and both hate Russians.
To Swede55
I think your words “chosen people” should have been in commas, like I have shown.
They are SELF PROCLAIMED “chosen people”, to make themselves feel that they are better than the rest of us, they are “exceptional” in fact! I believe any good psychologist can explain this affliction – it stems from VERY deep-seated feelings of inferiority and inadequacy. If one bothers to read their Talmud, keeping such thought in mind, it actually SCREAMS of that very fact! For them it’s like a defence mechanism, to keep yourself from being exposed as a totally useless, but greedy and evil global Parasite, incapable of creating/producing anything great and good that builds civilizations. Envy..and therefore hatred. And psychopatic desire to control, to dominate and to murder. Especially towards Russian slavic people, who DO have a great civilization and culture of which Russians are very proud. And rightly so. Also remember that Kiev was once the cradle of Russian State.
Notice how those talmudic adherents in their efforts to turn Ukraine into anti-Russia, had deliberately brainwashed people living there into believing that they are NOT part of this great slavic civilization and culture, but something entirely different. Made these that succumbed to it that much easier to control and manipulate, and I am not even going to mention what they did to poor US Americans, who NEVER had any culture, let alone civilization!
You, in USA, are totally owned, and what’s more, sucked dry! Do not forget – it’s the biggest Parasite on the planet that’s been feasting on you. And you have ALLOWED it, thinking that you are “exceptional!” now, so don’t go blaming Russia for your stupidity! Russia had expelled them. And now have to expel them once again, this time from Ukraine..
By the way, US and EU will never be anything else than WHAT they are. It’s in their genes..unfortunately.
Juri Lina’s narrative is it was Churchill who wanted WWII – to take down Germany, and Stalin was approach for cooperation. Sweden would be given to Stalin afterwards.
A good article. Every Russian leader,and most Ukrainian soldiers that talk after surrender understand that Ukrainians and Russians are both “Children of Rus” (as are Belarussians as well). What we are seeing is a Rus civil war. It amazes me how the so-called nationalist leaders of Ukraine and Moldova too,only seem to be interested in joining the EU to get visa free entry for their population to immigrate.
If you claim to be “nationalists” shouldn’t you instead be interested in building up your own countries economies so your people don’t need or want to immigrate to find a better life. As I can see the “nationalists” in those countries, took countries that under the Soviets had a high level of industrial development in the Union. And through their neglect and corruption, left them poorer than any other European nation.It’s a total disgrace.
Ukraine used to have 52 million people within her borders under the Soviets. Not only have they loss at least 20% of that population since “independence”. But they lost the natural increase they would have had from that population too. While Moldova is no better,maybe even worse. They dropped almost 30% of their population,not counting the natural increase losses. Both have let themselves become failed states. And all of that can be traced directly back to the breakup of their union with Russia. If they hope to survive in the future they need to rejoin that union. And start to actually rebuild their economies to be able for their population to stay in their homes,and not immigrate to foreign lands.
“What we are seeing is a Rus civil war. It amazes me how the so-called nationalist leaders of Ukraine and Moldova too,only seem to be interested in joining the EU to get visa free entry for their population to immigrate. ”
No, it’s an Ashkenazi game of “Let’s YOU and HIM fight.” Organized by the Nuland/Kagan duo and all of the other Neoconservatives (in actual truth, TROTSKYITES) in Washington D.C., through their puppets Kholomoisky and Zelinsky.
«Ukraine and Moldova too,only seem to be interested in joining the EU to get visa free entry for their population to immigrate. »
Those are the only two ex-USSR members that essentially failed as states, become mobster paradises, with GDP per head and many other indicators still lower than during soviet times. As independent states Georgia and the smaller “stans” did not do too well either, but not quite as badly as Ukraine and Moldova. No surprises that the vicious ruling elites of these failed states like blaming “the russians”, while most of their populations would rather like to escape their brutal and incompetent rule, and surprise that the USA supports them as their situation means they badly need “protectors”.
Everything America touches eventually turns to shit. EVERYTHING!
The sooner the Evil Empire is brought to its knees, the sooner we can begin the healing process.
I hope that one day, what is the greatest geostrategic strenght of the United States and that half-country that is Canada, its status as a semi-continent with long coastlines on two oceans, far from the rest of the world, will become its own prison, isolated, like outcasts, for the art and grace of their toxic and psychopathic elites.
I feel stuck on the wrong side. We are controlled by the “baddies” and elections seem to do nothing. Like Tom Luongo says, I’m going to drop the nationality title and just be where I am, and what tribe I belong to. I’m striving for a parallel society of like-minded folks whereby we can barter and trade to survive this insanity. Luckily, I live off-grid and fairly remote but not all of us stuck here have that option. Please don’t lump all of us as “outcasts” stuck in our own prison and isolated.
My apologies, I mean at the international political level. I know that the common people of your country suffer the consequences of their elites, and the day they fall, I hope it is better for you, the common people directly below them. In the end, normal people have the same aspirations and the same desires for peace, coexistence and understanding everywhere. I also hope that the stooges who rule us in Europe will be swept away one way or another.
Best regards.
This isn’t the doing of Americans. It’s the doing of Ashkenazis currently residing in the USA. They aren’t loyal to the USA, only to their co-tribalists.
G’day WTFUD,
I disagree.
There has always been an element of reason and goodness in the US demonstrated, for example, by George Washington and his latest incarnation, Donald Trump.
Moreover, the evil Khazarian (Ashkenazi) influence in the US that, for instance, created and dominated the African slave trade with ‘The Americas’, and which is currently being referred to as being “Nazi” rather than “Ashkenazi”; has been eviscerated by Christed US forces led by Trump. In other words the Evil Empire has already been brought to its knees and Russia is in the process of providing the public coup de grace.
Kievan Rus (800 – 1200) was the cradle of ALL Eastern Slavs. It is a tragedy that today’s Ukrainians have allowed themselves to be brainwashed and blinded by NATO and Yizrayell military and propaganda officers to hate and kill their brothers in the Donbass, around 15,000 of them, and then prepare a massive military offense against Donbass, which Putin simply could not allow.
The backbone of the Ukrainian Army which are the regulars who were attacking the Donbass for 8 years aren’t Slavs, they’re descended from Magyars, Bulgars, and other tribes to the south. When these people first got started under Bandera, they were attacking the Poles. It’s anti-slavism as a general rule, but they’re currently allowing the assistance of naive Poles and brainwashed Rus’
«aren’t Slavs, they’re descended from Magyars, Bulgars, and other tribes to the south. When these people first got started under Bandera, they were attacking the Poles. It’s anti-slavism as a general rule»
My understanding is that they are “ruthenian” eastern slavs, but many have a fascist supremacist attitude; those many want to recreate the lithuanian-polish-ruthenian empire, but one in which they are on top, while in the old empire it was first the lithuanians and then the poles who were on top.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchy_of_Lithuania
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Galicia%E2%80%93Volhynia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian_Commonwealth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheism
It was the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. In that order. Why did Lithuanian and Ruthenian upper classes gradually polonized themselves, so that by the beginning of 19th century they all regarded themselves as Poles and spoke Polish as their mother tongue, albeit wholy concous of their ethnic pedigrees and glorious past?
Modern Lithuanias and Ruthenians are entirely peasant nations completely devoid of own nobility and gentry. Not very numerous eastern Ruthenian gentry of Cossac origins (on the left bank of Dnepr river) were fully russificized, e.g. Skoropadski family etc., etc.
No one in his right mind think, or even dream about recreation of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Contemporary Lithuanians and Ruthenians are more or less hostile to Poles perceiving them as heirs to former ‘szlachta’, i.e. nobility. It is a grave error of judgment since the decendants of the ruling class of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth were almost fully exterminated during second World War by Soviets and Nazi Germans, and after the war by Polish communists.
Try to guess how many members of Polish Rurikid familes were murdered in Katyń and similar massacres?
«It was the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. In that order.»
Well, in time order the the ruthenian kingdom and the lithuanian empire came first, then the polish king absorbed the ruthenian kingdom and then the lithuanian grand duke became polish king.
«Why did Lithuanian and Ruthenian upper classes gradually polonized themselves, so that by the beginning of 19th century they all regarded themselves as Poles and spoke Polish as their mother tongue, albeit wholy concous of their ethnic pedigrees and glorious past?»
In part because the polish kingdom was more advanced culturally, being closer to “Europe” and less close to the mongolian khanates.
«Modern Lithuanias and Ruthenians are entirely peasant nations completely devoid of own nobility and gentry.»
Note quite: the lithuanian-polish-ruthenian “nobility” had a small high aristocracy, which indeed largely was eliminated, but also a large percentage of the population were nobles of rather lower order, who largely survived, never forgot, and they never abandoned their ambitions. This page seems fairly relevant to the troubles in Ukraine today:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthenian_nobility
“Ruthenian nobility, however, retained a distinct identity within the body of the Polish-Lithuanian szlachta, leading to the Latin expression gente Ruthenus, natione Polonus or gente Rutheni, natione Poloni (translated as “of Polish nationality, but Ruthenian origin”,[5] “of Ruthenia race and Polish nation”,[6] or in various similar veins), although the extent to which they retained and maintained this separate identity is still debated by scholars, and varied based on time and place
… The transfer of Ruthenian lands from the Grand Duchy to Poland occurred with the strong support of the Ruthenian nobility, who were attracted to the Polish culture and desired the privileges of the Polish nobility.[3] Thus the Ruthenian nobility gravitated from the Lithuanian noble tradition towards the Polish noble one, described by Stone as a change from “wealth without legal rights” to “defined individual and corporate rights”.[9] The Lithuanian, Polish and Ruthenian nobility gradually became more and more unified, particularly with regards to their standing as a socio-political class.[6][10] By the 19th and 20th centuries, the Ruthenian aristocracy became so heavily Polonized, that the eventual national resurgence of Belarus and Ukraine was mostly spurred by middle and lower classes of the nobility, that later was joined by the growing national consciousness of the new middle class, rather than of the former upper class of Ruthenian nobility.[2]
Despite polonisation in Lithuania and Ruthenia in the 17th-18th centuries, a large part of the lower szlachta managed to retain their cultural identity in various ways.[11][12][13][14] According to Polish estimates from the 1930s, 300,000 members of the common nobles -szlachta zagrodowa – inhabited the subcarpathian region of the Second Polish Republic out of 800,000 in the whole country. 90% of them were Ukrainian-speaking and 80% were Ukrainian Greek Catholics.[15] In other parts of the Ukraine with a significant szlachta population, such as the Bar or the Ovruch regions, the situation was similar despite russification and earlier polonization.”
it is easy to guess who are the backbone supporters for the fascist xenophobic “Greater Ruthenia” movements like the Bandera and UPA inspired Azov Regiment, Right Sector, etc.
To begin with: your final presumption about “who are the … supporters for … the Bandera movement” is completely missed. Bandera himself and not a few of his lieutenants were sons of the Greek Catholic clergy, who were at the time upper strata of the Galician Ukrainian society, but the backbone of the Bandera movment consisted of Ukrainian peasants. No members of so called ‘Ruthenian nobility’ took part in that movement.
The Wikipedia articles about the Lithuanian, Ruthenian and Belarusian nobility, apparently written by members of those ethnicities, are definitely artificial constructs. They are missleading a foreign reader and are trying to convince him that their modern nationalistic movements were not excusively plebeian ones.
As a rule they cite a few names of real noble families, including extinct ones, as ‘exemples’ and not mention that those few members of non-extinct families who supported modern Lithuanian, Ruthenian and Belarusian state-building movements were absolute exceptions. Exceptions that were regarded even by their own close relatives a freaks.
When Roman Szeptycki, the future Greek Catholic metropolite of Lwów, decided in 1888 to transgress from Roman to Greek Catholicism, his parents, Count Jan Kanty Szeptycki and Zofia, nee Countess Fredro, were furious. His younger brother Kazimierz followed his suit in 1912 and it is a sole example, known to me, of two noble family members of Rhuthenian origins opting for Ukrainian cause. Two other Szaptycki brothers, Stanisław and Leon opted and fought for Poland (Stanisław became later a full General in the Polish Army and challenged Marshal Piłsudski, a noble of old Lithuanian origin, to a duel).
Vyacheslav Lypynsky, mentioned in your citation, an Ukrainian historian of Ruthenian nobility and Hetman Skoripadski’s amassador to Austria, was born Wacław Lipiński to Roman Catholic noble parents of pure Polish ethnicity in Łuck county in Volhynia. His politcal choice was an anomality, since all his family members remaind staunchly Polish.
The beginning of one of the chapters of Wikipedia’s article ‘Lithuanian nobility’ reads: “Most descendants of the Lithuanian nobility remained ill-disposed to the modern national movements of Lithuania and Belarus and fought for Poland in 1918-1920.” If you consider 99,9 per cent as ‘most’ it is certainly a true statement.
You were also kind enough to provide the link to ‘Ruthenian nobility’ article, where ‘Krajowcy movement’ is mentioned: “At the beginning of the 20th century, the Belarusian nobility has been primarily politically active in the Krajowcy political movement. Still, some of them, like Raman Skirmunt or Madeleine Radziwiłł, have been sympathetic to the Belarusian national movement and have supported the creation of an independent Belarusian Democratic Republic in 1918.” Well, first of all their primary aim was to retain their landed estates. Do you realize that Karol Stanisław Radziwiłł (died 1790) personally possessed over five million hectares of agriculture and forest land on the territory of modern Belarus and Lithuania, i.e. ca. 2o.ooo squere miles?
Another citation from your link: “According to Polish estimates from the 1930s, 300,000 members of the common nobles -szlachta zagrodowa – inhabited the subcarpathian region of the Second Polish Republic out of 800,000 in the whole country.” refers to people, who were subsistance farmers and seldom possessed more then 1o acres of land. In fact, they were peasants in all but name. Their ancestors in 16th and 17th centuries were ‘familiares’, i.e. retainers of noble families. By the mid 19th century almost all of them were striped of their noble status by governments of Imperial Russia and Austria-Hungary. In English lexical terms they were more yeomen than landed gentry, not to mention ‘nobility’. The ‘lower nobility’ in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth were those, who possessed an hamlet or, at least, part of it.
The statement from the same Wikipedia article: “… by the beginning of the 20th century, many minor nobles in Belarus were hardly distinguishable from usual peasants, only the top aristocracy faced repressions because of their noble origin. ” can be best described as bare lie. Between “minors nobles hardly distinguishable from usual peasants” and “top aristocacy” there were tens of thausends of owners of middle sized estates, from 15o up to 5.ooo acres in size. They were independent, well educated, as a rule active or reserve officers in the Russian Imperial Army and quite concious of their seize quatiers, if you know what I mean. As in Russia proper, the main goal of the Soviets was a complete extermination of that social stratum. If the Soviets had the opportunity to put on the wall and shot a prince or a count, they were, of course, perfectly happy, but the elimination of the aristocracy, be it Russian or Polish, was certainly not their main problem.
As for “a separate, cultural identity” of Ruthenian, Lithuanian and Belarusian nobility, it was, and still is, not a small superiority complex in relation to the ethnic Polish nobility (i.e. living west of Northern Bug river). Reasons for this were: much larger estates, much larger hunting grounds, better horses and hournds, more glorious past and not seldom deeper pedigrees. They gave to the Commonwealth the most famous militar commanders, statesmen, greatest Polish poets and writers etc., etc. To put it short, they regarded themselves as better Poles than ethnic Poles themselves (and those few, who managed to survive still do!). In Poland proper, their style of speaking and pronunciation has been always considered most elegant and aristocratic, so even in communist Poland that pronunciation was obligatory taught in actors’ academies till early seventies. The notion that they, i.e. the nobility of the eastern part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, could unite with their former serfs, be it Roman Catholic, Greek Catholic, Russian Orthodox or Lutheran, against Poland ist outright ridiculous. Perhaps a dozen or so, certainly not more, of mildly mentally confused persons among nobility opted for the new nations of Lithuania, Ukraine and Belarus and they are now celebrated by those nation on Wikipedia as a ‘part of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth’s nobility’.
Let me advise you that all not strictly scientific articles on Wikipedia are utterly useless and intentionally misleading.
Batyishka, keep your comments coming!
As a Polish friend from Lipniki told me :
“We can forgive but forgetting is impossible”
I think this author has hit on something, and i’ll expand on it.
This operation is too end WW II from country’s who supply arms and ammunition to almost “fascist” country’s like the Ukraine, and then too concurrently blend into an economic WW III, it is much easier to starve and freeze out an opponent over time by economic means, than it is to try and bomb and then build your way back to some type of recovery.
I dont even see how the west can sustain a year of this more less a twenty year contract of hyperinflation, there would have to be civil unrest in between.
The West is taking its decisions from day to day right now, stupid politicians only preoccupied with saving their ass for a little longer rather than working to keep their nation afloat. Russia already cut 40% of its gas flow to Europe, what will happen of us if they completely turn off the valves? 10 millions homes heating with gas in my country, and many also cook and heat their water with it. If things get worse I don’t know how we’ll manage.
It is not a well-known fact that a ertain midget state in North Africa/South-East Asia controls all of the West, including the US, UK, and NATO.
The word Nazi no longer has any meaning. One thing it certainly isn’t is Zionist, that’s for damn sure.
The uncluttered meaning of nazis are the space nazis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jth4yATniS4
“Neo-nazi” is more about being unemployed and depressed
A bit of overuse of the term “Nazi”. If everybody is labelled this way then it looses all meaning.
Well, if you have Nazi insignia on your uniform which most of the officers or unit commanders have then Nazi it is.
Hell the current US Government/Political System are fascists but call themselves Democrats, now democratic/democracy are way more overused than Nazi is.
Still I suppose as a westerner you have a point, however, if Putin/Russia prefer the word Nazi then who the hell can object, having lost 10’s of millions to this ideology?
«Well, if you have Nazi insignia on your uniform which most of the officers or unit commanders have then Nazi it is.»
In the case of the Ukraine that is quite wrong, both comically and tragically: those people *think* they are nazis, but they are not. I think that their mistake goes like this:
* We are the heirs of Bandera and the UPA (and of the ruthenian “schlachta”), far-right wing ethno-nationalist elitists.
* Our Bandera-UPA granfathers fought together with the nazis (at least sometimes) and against the “kastaps”/”muscovites”.
* Therefore we should be nazis too.
The last point is a mistake. Most nazi allies were not nazis, e.g. the Mossolini italian fascists were not nazist, even if fascism was older and partly inspired the nazis; most far-right movements in europe in thew 1930s did ally themselves with the nazis, e.g. the hungarians, croats, bulgarian, romanian ones, but some were enemies of the nazis, e.g. the polish fascist regime, and some remained neutral, e.g. the spanish fascist regime.
The heirs of Bandera/UPA are not nazis, even if their opponents and *themselves* think so, they are just vanilla fascist ethno-nationalists. The nazis had some kind of ideology and put some thought behind their politics, the heirs of Bandera/UPA don’t have anything like a nazi ideology, they just want to recreate the empire in which their ancestors were “noble”, and this time they want themselves to be top gods, not the lithuanians or the poles.
PS: I think some of the lithuanians who think they are nazis actually are nazis, ideologically and politically, but most are again just fascists.
“At great cost Russia’s highly-professional, world-class-equipped and brilliantly-trained armies already liberated and saved Europe from forms of Nazism twice in the past, in 1814 and in 1945.”
If the United States had not been there, would Stalin have extended himself all the way to the border with Spain and installed the communist parties of those countries as the new rulers? Very likely. This quote makes Russia synonymous with the Soviet Union. The author calls Karl Marx “satanic” elsewhere, and I agree with that. The enslavers are not the liberators. Putin is critical of Lenin but exculpatory of Stalin. It’s hard to be critical with regard to the leader of the Great Patriotic War.
Stalin was a Soviet patriot. Maybe he was not a “Russian patriot.” The greatest victory for communism was their 1917 coup in Russia. It’s hard to deal with the communist past. Let’s not make them “liberators”, though.
Anybody who got rid of Trotsky, can’t be all bad.
G’day Josh Andre,
To be fair, Victoria Nuland did brag about the US spending five billion USD over a period of many years infiltrating, propagandizing and organising Ukrainian schooling and all other aspects of Ukrainian society to be anti-Russian. That process socially engineered the Ukrainian population to be pro-Nazi and anti-Russian just as the US propagandised Afghans and organised armed and trained the Mujahideen for years before Russia was invited by the elected government there to intervene in Afghanistan in 1979. AND the US did perpetrate the Orange Revolution in 2004 as well as the Maidan Coup in 2014.
«To be fair, Victoria Nuland did brag about the US spending five billion USD over a period of many years infiltrating, propagandizing and organising Ukrainian schooling and all other aspects of Ukrainian society […] the US did perpetrate the Orange Revolution in 2004 as well as the Maidan Coup in 2014.»
Not just in Ukraine (or Afghanistan), also in Western Europe and South America etc. etc. etc. That is what imperial states do, have always done, and in this the USA have been far more successful than the USSR before it and the Russian Federation after.
Operation to defeat Global Nazism! They have a new name in the west neocons and neoliberals !
Although I understand and support the general gist of what you are saying , I disagree with a number of things. To point those out, I want to stress that the defining of nationhood in Ukraine was faulty from the start, due to a couple of very harmful learned behaviors that are typical to a large part of the people that live in Ukraine. One of them specifically was referred to sarcastically and tongue-in-cheek by Lavrov as “Khitrost’. I’m quite fluent in Russian and found Lavrov’s use of the word ambiguous, as he could have it mean both with some humor but simultaneously with some regret. It is the speed with which some Ukrainians turn on a dime, bite the hand that feeds them, lie and steal for their own benefit, scrape the bottom of the barrel and then break the bottom of the barrel. I have interacted with Ukrainians in business since 1991 and find this behavior in much of rump Ukraine – Kiev, Chernigov, Poltava – which are the areas where I have interacted.
The second part is similar to where we all know people that grew up to always think of themselves as victims. Every village in the world knows and has some of them, but this behavior is more prevalent in Ukraine. possibly because it does not get stamped out by the society surrounding them. There will always be a level to which the people who live in ‘borderlands’ will go with the flow, keep their head down, but not all of them will have the ‘woe me’ attitude that also combines with a growing vicious hatred.
When Ukraine became a nation state in 1991, these two behaviors were already more amply present than in surrounding countries. A militant strain of nazism grew with these behaviors, put together a Ministry of Truth and solidified their victim status as ie in a Ukrainized pre=WW2 famine as the Holodomor; and took over Ukrainian society.
One can point out these two issues, one has to, without being racist, because it is not genetic; it is a learned behavior. I do not believe it can be unlearned once a person reaches their 30-ies, but it requires a good educational system to root it out from the children of those afflicted.
Just listened to the Military Summary channel. The guy is sounding more and more depressed each day.
Tonight’s offering was a complete waste of time. We need a new source.
No, we need to understand that this was a very quiet day. Nothing really happened. A few routine sorties that you can easily confirm by the Russian Mod report. I just had a look a few more closing reports for the day. Riafan has the same, very little happened. https://riafan.ru/23493152-chto_proizoshlo_na_ukraine_17_iyunya_iran_pomozhet_vosstanovit_donbass_kiev_lishili_evrovideniya
Why the quiet? I don’t know and don’t want to speculate but I could :-)
The city of Donbass was heavily shelled – the general feeling – because of Mr Putin’s speech and the whole Spief going on.
Pres.Putin made his major speech today. It was postponed to today from yesterday because of overwhelming ddos attacks and even today it was over an hour late. The transcript will be posted tomorrow. So will transcripts from Mr Lavrov on a series of interviews that he had over the past few days.
Thanks amarynth
I understand what you’re saying about the fairly quiet day, even the folks in Donetsk will be mighty thankful. On Russia day the ante was upped for the opposite reason. UAF will have more time to bury their dead, hopefully they’ll be doing this and a 24 hour respite will help battle fatigue.
I’m not even talking about the 2.5 cauldrons created where he was 24 hours late in providing his update a few days back. It’s just that he’s sounding more morose, despondent about the ongoing events. Says he’s in Belarus at the moment, not sure of his nationality, but he’s seems to get more upbeat when discussing UAF possibilities for counter maneuver and since the last few weeks they’ve just been just retreating he seems downbeat. Of course for anyone (well maybe Nazis and the like excepted ) War isn’t uplifting.
Most of us would prefer to see regular UAF shoot US-NATO trained Nazis in the face and then force Zelensky to sue for peace.
Military observer Boris Rozhin, in his author’s blog Colonel Cassad, shared his opinion on the significance of the statements of Russian President Vladimir Putin, which he made on Friday, June 17, at the St. Petersburg Economic Forum.
“About Putin’s speech.
1. The break with the West is irreversible and final. No pressure from the West will change that.
2. Russia has regained its sovereignty and will not give it back to anyone. Strengthening political and economic sovereignty are top priorities.
3. Старый мир разрушается, и эпоха американского господства завершилась. Сейчас идет формирование нового мира.
The old world is crumbling, and the era of American dominance is over. Now a new world is being formed.
4. Despite all the support from the West for Ukraine, the operation in Ukraine will continue until all the goals are achieved.
5. Economically, Russia will not be closed – the emphasis will be on domestic economic development and the reorientation of trade towards countries independent of the United States.
6. The EU is no longer viewed as a subjective player – only as a collection of American vassals, devoid of military-political subjectivity.
7. Big business is once again offered to make a choice – either “nationalization” in Russia, or deprivation of assets in the West.
In general, the main leitmotif of the entire speech is that the ship is on the same course, there will be no turning back. Those who are still waiting or are afraid of the upcoming changes in Russia and in the world are once again offered to make a choice – with whom they are.”
The 25th St Petersburg International Economic Forum
(In french)
https://lesmoutonsenrages.fr/2022/06/18/discours-de-vladimir-poutine-lors-du-forum-economique-international-de-saint-petersbourg-spief-2022/
I looked at the article that had these listed, as well as some that neither your excerpt nor this one (https://t.me/intelslava/31423) had.
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/7684574.html
Points 1 and 6 had this:
If there’s a transcript of Putin’s speech, I’ll have to see if he said the bolded part, as well as many others, verbatim or not.
A wounded beast is more vulnerable. Russia will not expose themselves to be wounded since they exercise the little gray cells. The western powers rely on the status of their positions for which they have few if any credentials other than the ones they bestow on each other. They think that the positions they occupy should alone make smaller minds tremble as they trample roughshod over anyone who is not of the beknighted elite like themselves
Yet, the sound of hoofbeats is getting louder and the global elite are getting nervous. Something must be done. As one failure becomes evident, another venture is in the making – this time in the Middle East. Look to Syria and Iran on one side and KSA, Qatar, Bahrain on the other, nearly a mirror image of the current situation with Ukraine and Russia. Most importantly – follow the money -who is bankrolling these ventures, who are the puppet masters ?
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result, except now the players are being played themselves. The ultimate disaster is baked into the plans they rehash again and again by only rearraining the deck chairs on the sinking ships of state – The US, The EU and their vassals who have exposed themselves not only to be severly wounded by their own sanctions but also turn against their own people with a vengeance – we have seen this taking place already. Once their economies implode, the peoples wrath will rise as a cleansing tsunami – the big question is what happens after that so we don’t get fooled again ?
I would not be surprised if the rhetoric used is twisted and perverted in the manner that history was rewritten and definitons switched to mean the opposite. I am beginning to see a trend here in the US and A where free people are being labeled as “domestic terrorists”, “insurrectionist”, “white suppremacist” (aka “Nazzis”).
You can see where this is headed. As TPTB find their “power” slipping from their grip, their actons will become more desperate, extreme and inhuman – however this may happen only once or twice until their heads roll into the basket with a surprised look on their faces.
Liberate the Western Europe? So romantic! Respectfully, you Russians never learn.
In order to avoid Zhukov’s “curse” where he prophesied that them, Western Europeans would never forgive the Russians for liberating them, I would suggest Dmitry Orlov’s solution: create a buffer zone and let robots roam it.
Of course, stop all exports to Western Europe before that. Soon after that they will die off busy suiciding themselves in the impossible green agenda and LGBT death cult.
Liberate Western Europe and America! Total joke! Lol
I agree. A weak point to an otherwise well-written article. The Taiwanese, for example, really do not want to be liberated by the PRC. One would hope the citizens would come to the conclusion on their own that their elites were jerking them around. It seems to take an awful lot of jerking around to get them to that stage. When the people finally rise up, then a little help to them may be useful. This occurred in the Donbass and Russia had other, pressing reasons for the SMO as well.
@Pat Ormsby: “The Taiwanese, for example, really do not want to be liberated by the PRC.”
It was ever thus. “Then the Children of Israel in the Wilderness berated Moses crying, Why didst thou Liberate us from the Land of Egypt where we had cakes and beer and regular jobs!”
Perhaps some of us might have thought of this:
“Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles,” (Proverbs 24:17)
And considering that Putin is Orthodox Christian…
Russia has no human resources to run around “liberating” the ungrateful cousins and their current puppeteers. There are Orthodox countries who are sworn enemies of Russia and Russians. In fact most of Orthodox countries are and have been enemies of Russia. Good riddance to them all. Most Muslim countries are a more honest friend than any Orthodox country in Europe.
Please do not bring religion into this shit fight. Russia should look after herself only and after the select few of her allies. That is all. Those who decide to fight their LGBT/Satanic US masters might receive some assistance some time down the track but the fighting will be done by the people of the host country. No Russian should ever again die liberating Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, Georgia, Armenia, North Macedonia, even Serbia the way some of her politicians behave… let alone of the countries further West.
Perhaps the Chinese might be interested but good luck with that.
Slight problem: i have ukie neighbours They have always been friendly…neighbours since about 8 years now…but recently they have been in a total panic. One told me in a frantic tone “you have no idea what that evil Putin is doing to our country, its absolutely horrifying, all was peaceful unto the Russians arrived and now they are destroying our homes….”
I pointed out that i had the exact opposite view: i felt that Russian was doing the Ukraine a big favour, in destroying all NATO assets within the country.
The Ukrainian replied that i “should not listen to all the propaganda, the truth was that the Russians are killing everyone.”
So i asked “do you consider yourself to be a Bandera supporter?”
“No, we believe in the sovereignty of the Ukraine… we just want to live in peace and enjoy the west european lifestyle…”
so i asked: “But things are not as you think they are. The reality is, you are here in London, sending funds home to your family… If everything was really perfect in the Ukraine, you would still want to live there, No?”
At which point the Ukie walked off silently and slammed the door in my face….
There was a mention in some article of a lack of iodine in the diet of western Ukies??
This is a much more realistic account than the article, thanks!
@O.A.
I met with a similar angry reaction from an expatriate Russian-speaking Ukrainian who left 10 years ago (before the 2014 coup) because of poverty in Ukraine (see wikipedia, Ukrainian Oligarch). She was frantic for her aged mother who chose to stay, because fighting in Kharkov has been going on for much longer than anywhere else. The expat daughter was so angry with “Putler and your holy Russians killing Ukrainians” that she kissed the expat earth she was standing on and made a vow to learn Ukrainian.
“War is hell for the little people. It is easy for us to tell them there is an enemy and they will stir up and rally round; but the poor slobs, all the best they can hope from victory is to return home in one piece.” — Hermann Goering
«So i asked “do you consider yourself to be a Bandera supporter?”
“No, we believe in the sovereignty of the Ukraine… we just want to live in peace and enjoy the west european lifestyle…”»
so i asked: “But things are not as you think they are. The reality is, you are here in London, sending funds home to your family… If everything was really perfect in the Ukraine, you would still want to live there, No?”»
This is an excellent anecdote because it illustrates that the Ukraine/Belarus “color movements” are really class war, not nationalism, run by what the Saker has called in the russian case the “5th column”/”6th column”, because the neighbours who said they want to “enjoy the west european lifestyle”:
* Really mean the “upper-middle class* west european lifestyle, because the lower-middle and lower classes in western Europe are getting shafted (see “Yellow Vests” etc.).
* Know well that the ukrainians (or belarussians) who are doing especially well and “enjoy the west european lifestyle” are those upper-middle class people who work as professionals and management for western multinationals, either in Ukraine or in western Europe, e.g. your neighbour most likely, plus of course the billionaires, whether living in Ukraine or western Europe.
Instead the average citizen of Ukraine (and Moldova) are still suffering worse lifestyles than during the USSR membership, living in a failed state brutally looted by those western-allied upper and upper-middle classes, poor and failed state even if Ukraine for 8 years has been totally committed to the “Washington consensus”.
It is not mere coincidence that the most faithful supporters of vassalage to the USA empire in those western countries are the same reaganian/thatcherite (that is neocon-neolib) upper-middle and upper classes who do business with western multinationals, and whose interests are “protected” by the USA empire.
The funny thing is that even many upper-middle class (but of course not the upper class billionaires) people in countries that became USA vassals now regret it, e.g. this guy from east Germany:
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http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html
«Today, 20 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, 57 percent, or an absolute majority, of eastern Germans defend the former East Germany. “The GDR had more good sides than bad sides. There were some problems, but life was good there,” say 49 percent of those polled. Eight percent of eastern Germans flatly oppose all criticism of their former home and agree with the statement: “The GDR had, for the most part, good sides. Life there was happier and better than in reunified Germany today.”
[…] After 1989 Schön, a master craftsman from Stralsund, a city on the Baltic Sea, initially racked up one success after the next. Although he no longer owns the Porsche he bought after reunification, the lion skin rug he bought on a vacation trip to South Africa — one of many overseas trips he has made in the past 20 years — is still lying on his living room floor. “There’s no doubt it: I’ve been fortunate,” says the 51-year-old today. A major contract he scored during the period following reunification made it easier for Schön to start his own business. Today he has a clear view of the Strelasund sound from the window of his terraced house. […] His verdict on the GDR is clear: “As far as I’m concerned, what we had in those days was less of a dictatorship than what we have today.” He wants to see equal wages and equal pensions for residents of the former East Germany. And when Schön starts to complain about unified Germany, his voice contains an element of self-satisfaction. People lie and cheat everywhere today, he says, and today’s injustices are simply perpetrated in a more cunning way than in the GDR, where starvation wages and slashed car tires were unheard of. Schön cannot offer any accounts of his own bad experiences in present-day Germany. “I’m better off today than I was before,” he says, “but I am not more satisfied.”»
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/25/we-got-christmas-back-readers-mark-25-years-since-fall-of-soviet-union
«Mikhail Molchanov, a Kiev resident, has mixed feelings about the arrival of western denim. He said people “were duped into believing that their lives would vastly improve. Only people who lived in both systems can truly appreciate the system of guaranteed employment, (almost) guaranteed housing, free healthcare and free education. A capitalist society will never be able to match any of these. We sold our Soviet birthright for blue jeans and Iron Maiden records,” he said.»
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2016/0129/Maybe-the-Soviets-weren-t-so-bad-Russian-nostalgia-for-USSR-on-the-rise>
«These days most Russians regard the loss of the USSR as a negative event. A poll conducted this month by the independent Levada Center found that 63 percent see the collapse “negatively” while just 14 percent think it was a “positive” event. Asked which type of political system they would prefer to live under, 13 percent named “Western democracy,” 23 percent said the present Russian setup was best, while 37 percent said the Soviet system would be most desirable. “There is nothing new here. We regularly ask people their views on the Soviet collapse, and we regularly get these results,” says Alexei Grazhdankin, deputy director of the Levada Center.»
And that is why many ukrainian residents welcome RF troops carrying USSR flags: it is less about the “russki mir” than about getting less shafted by the USA corporates and their ukrainian upper-middle and upper class allies. It is about wanting to live in a more social-democratic system, rather than in a vicious neolib-neocon “Washington Consensus” one.
I think that that pushing russian nationalism rather than social-democracy is one of the critical mistakes that V. Putin is making. Instead of appealing to the ukrainians (or russians…) who are russian ethnonationalists, he should be appealing to the even more ukrainian citizens, of whichever ethnic background, who are fed up with their country have turned into a dog-eat-dog third world economy, looted by those upper-middle and upper classes working with and for the “Washington Consensus” who get to “enjoy the west european lifestyle”.
“President Putin explained from the very outset and very clearly that the US-created puppet regime in Kiev, with its Nazi/NATO/Zionist backers, is an Anti-Russia. It does not represent the mass of the Ukrainian people”
Putin never said any such thing.
Putin knows the mass of the Ukrainian people do not like Russia or Russians.
Who do you think is out there every day shooting at Russians?
Just like Putin knows the mass of the citizens of the US don’t like Russia or
Russians. Who do you think is condoning all that money and equipment flowing from the US to Ukraine?
Putin, I think, has to turn that “mass” attitude around . He has eventually got to win the hearts and minds of the “masses “ who today don’t like Russia or Russians.
Good for Putin and Russian People, these attempts of Reverse Public Relations are depressing.
– Putin, I think, has to turn that “mass” attitude around .
It will be on level How to get Americans to like Japanese .. Chinese… Germans … Mexicans ??
(I haven’t heard any in Asia liking Chinese)
No, Putin should not try to be liked. Putin should fool NATO soldiers into Ukraine and return them in bodybags, especially Swedes and Finns for the sake of their NATO referendums.
All French, Brits, Germans, Poles, Swedes and Finns hate being a loser. They all agree upon: We are the Masterrace, and we defeated the nazis and nazi ideology, and their indicriminate bombing av British, French, Polish and Russian cities, using long range bombers….
Putin never said any such thing.
I beg to differ.
Putin knows exactly how many like Russia, who don’t, and who are indifferent; the reasons why, and who the driving forces are.
Article by Putin on the historical ties of Russians and Ukrainians published in July 2021:
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“Radicals and neo-Nazis were open and more and more insolent about their ambitions. They were indulged by both the official authorities and local oligarchs, who robbed the people of Ukraine and kept their stolen money in Western banks, ready to sell their motherland for the sake of preserving their capital. To this should be added the persistent weakness of state institutions and the position of a willing hostage to someone else’s geopolitical will.
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Step by step, Ukraine was dragged into a dangerous geopolitical game aimed at turning Ukraine into a barrier between Europe and Russia, a springboard against Russia. Inevitably, there came a time when the concept of ”Ukraine is not Russia“ was no longer an option. There was a need for the ”anti-Russia“ concept which we will never accept.
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Again, for many people in Ukraine, the anti-Russia project is simply unacceptable. And there are millions of such people. But they are not allowed to raise their heads. They have had their legal opportunity to defend their point of view in fact taken away from them. They are intimidated, driven underground. …”
http://www.en.kremlin.ru/misc/66182
The Ukies that came to the Czech Republic or Slovakia behave like masters of the universe. Not appreciative of the help and sacrifice these countries provide for them. Most appear to be economic refugees looking for free ride. If it wasn’t for the corrupted and US/EU vasal governments of these countries, the ordinary people would love to see them leave (or better go to hell with their attitudes)!!!!!!!
That’s what becomes of media darlings.
Tugboat Vasily Bekh SB-739
Anyone know facts of this Ukraine says sunk with two Harpoon missle.
My best understanding was Harpoon would take some time to arrive,
be adapted to a form of transport, training, etc.
What is real?
“… and in the Second World War were not anti-German, but anti-Nazi.”
can only write somewone who had not lived through the events, my grandparents had to flee from silesia and i know enough from the stories the russian were very sure anti everything german, the remaining germans who did not flee had to fear greater consequences about their lives, were put in real death camps and tortured, that part after ww2 is often silenced as it was fine to do that with the losers of ww2.
You are perfectly right. The author apparently never heard about many hate articles written during the war by Soviet Jew Ilja Erenburg.
By the way, German population of Silesia in comparison with that of East Prussia fared not that bad. What happened with civilians in Koenigsberg after capitulation of German garrison is beyond wildest imaginaton of any sane person.
All Quiet in the Western Front? Good. Relief. Finally, we won’t denazify! Wait a minute. We got it wrong. Better if we explain using a la Martinov “Shenanigans”, brace yourself:
(Denazification=DeAmericanazification)
Is hard math, you can’t beat it. Of course, if you want to get into the neatty-gritty, you can always buy A. M. books. Maybe you may understand why you are not the bully in town anymore….be lucky you won’t be “cancel”, we all know you just “over-rated” yourself!
The = means either way, when you solve it = still will be No Exceptions!
I don’t share the author’s pan-Slavic view of Ukraine, and I think Russians that do are delusional. Go back to the original Maidan protests (before things turned ugly) and count the number of people. There had to be at least half a million who joined that protest over time, and that’s just one city. Their core grievance, apart from govt. corruption – true of all parties going back to before independence? Their dream of joining the EU was being stolen from them, with shabby old Russia being offered in its place.
Didn’t matter if the deal with Russia made more economic sense, given how closely tied the two economies were. Didn’t matter that the deal was done on very favourable energy terms, or that rejecting it in whole put Russia’s defence needs at risk. Didn’t matter that what little domestic ownership remained of Ukraine would be taken over wholesale. Nope. All that mattered was that the dream of joining the EU and living the Euro lifestyle – a totally unrealistic illusion – was being snatched away. Entirely selfish motives. Not something you do to your “brothers.”
Then there was Odessa. Not one person made a move to stop what was clearly becoming a murderous rampage, and after it was over, no one was ever held to account. An event like that should have triggered national outrage on the scale of the original Maidan, but nothing. Crickets.
By my estimate, about 1/2 the population is entirely onboard with this Slava Ukraini nonsense, and nothing short of total defeat is going to disabuse them of it. When that happens a lot of them will simply flee and become Europe’s problem. Unfortunately, a lot will also end up in Canada, adding further disgrace to a country I no longer feel a part of.
I share the same ancestors as the original settlers of America, but I’d be just as delusional as the pan-Slavics if I though I had anything more than that in common with them. Frankly, as a Canadian, I feel I have more in common with Russians than Americans, but that’s also true of Iran, Syria, Afghanistan and a half dozen other places I’ve either been to, or have friends from.
Maybe these wounds can heal. I’m an outsider, so what do I know? But I do know that if this happened to me – if I spent the last 8 years being shelled by these people, when all I wanted was to be left alone – I’d have nothing to do with them ever again in my life. Not just the ones that did it, but all of them, because how could I trust any of them after this?
On that note, I see people lining up for Russian passports. I get that, but what I want to know is this: Are they swearing an oath on a Bible or Koran? If they aren’t, then how do I know they’re really Russian, or want to be one? You just got rid of one 5th column. Please don’t invite another into your midst just because you can’t see past your nostalgia for a time which only really exists in mythology.
According to the author’s narrative, most Ukrainians just want Ukraine to be Ukraine. But when looking at what Ukraine was its obvious that ordinary Ukrainians just want to kill Russia supporting or Russian speaking people, then they also want to host nuclear weapons and biological warfare units in Ukraine to use against Russia itself. Then the US can sit back and say it wasn’t the US which done those things but Ukraine. Plausible deniability.
Same thing happened with ISIS, the US created ISIS and then tried to create a country for ISIS out of Syria and Iraq (they actually wanted Turkey to be an integral part of the ISIS country as well). This ISIS country would then attack Russia with nukes (conveniently “stolen” from the US in NATO Turkey) and whatever and then the US could sit back and say it wasn’t the US which done those things but ISIS. Plausible deniability.
And just like ISIS never killed a single Jew, nor have the UkroNazis killed a single Jew. Instead the Ukrainians take orders from a Jewish president who only learnt to speak Ukrainian when he became president, all along he spoke Russian.
So just like Russia couldn’t allow ISIS to exist, just so Russia can’t allow the UkroNazis in Ukraine to exist.
But getting back to the ordinary Ukrainians, who think that it is their God given right to be independent and allowed to be used to attack Russia by the US. During the Vietnam war it was normal for the troops to shoot the officers in the back because they didn’t like them, it was normal for the troops to throw grenades into the officers tents because they didn’t like them. This practice was called fragging. Do the ordinary Ukrainians troops frag their UkroNazi officers? No ways, the ordinary Ukrainian troops support their UkroNazi officers in all their efforts to kill Russian orientated Ukrainians. And then when they are captured they say that they were forced to join the army and never wanted to fight and never killed anyone. The ordinary Ukrainians don’t even kill their UkroNazi officers when the UkroNazi officers kill the ordinary Ukrainians troops when they want to surrender.
Ordinary Ukrainians can’t be trusted, Ukraine cannot be allowed to exist.
«According to the author’s narrative, most Ukrainians just want Ukraine to be Ukraine. But when looking at what Ukraine was its obvious that ordinary Ukrainians just want to kill Russia supporting or Russian speaking people»
This already a rather disagreeable claim, where “Ukraine”, the successor to the “ukrainian SSR”, has a actually a multiethnic, multicultural, population, with a wide variety of political views. Even just “most Ukrainians” is a claim too far, because for example presidential elections have been split around 50-50%; there is no uniform, even merely majoritarian, side in the Ukraine, all sides are below or well below 50% of the population.
In particular while most ukrainians are slavs, only a large minority are anti-russian, the “ruthenians”, who have taken over the name “ukrainian” for quite a while.
That is both the claims by the “ruthenians” and by V. Putin are wrong: there is no near-totality of the Ukraine’s population who are either anti-russian (as claimed by the “ruthenians”) or belong to the the “russki mir” (as claimed by V. Putin), there are two sharply different subsets, in ethnic and cultural terms:
* The pure-and-fanatical “ruthenian” minority who definitely don’t belong to the “russki mir” (that is Muscovia in ancient terminology) and resent and hate it. These are usually catholic “uniates”, and usually live in areas annexed in 1939.
* The majority, who whether of ruthenian, russian etc. ethnicity, have a pan-russian culture, and are quite comfortable with friendship with the Russian Federation. These are also divided in two parts: those who want to be actually part of the Russian Federation, and those who want to be independent but in some for of close association with the Russian Federation, like Belarus. These are usually orthodox, of one of several churches.
http://ww2today.com/1-march-1944-the-red-army-marches-across-ukraine
«The population welcomed us warmly, regardless of how hard it was for them to provide food to soldiers; they always found some nice treats — some villagers boiled chicken, others boiled potatoes and cut lard (soldiers dubbed this kind of catering ‘a grandmother’s ration’). However, such attitudes were common only in the Eastern Ukraine.
As soon as we entered the Western Ukraine, that had passed to the Soviet Union from Poland in 1940, the attitude of the population was quite different — people hid from us in their houses, as they disliked and feared the Muscovites and Kastaps [a disparaging name for Russians in Ukraine – translators comment]. Besides that, those places were Bandera areas, where the nationalistic movement was quite strong.»
The two ethnic/cultural subsets largely overlap with classes:
* The anti-russians are largely those who want to be the ruling upper and upper-middle classes, as vassals “protected” by the USA, of Ukraine.
* The pro-russians are largely those who are lower-middle and lower classes, and who remember the USSR as a period of decent, peaceful living, without too much corruption, neoliberal exploitation.
https://vk.com/@new_forwardls_ru-in-the-trenches-of-ukraines-forever-war
“I fell in with a man in his 60s walking with a single crutch. He was wearing an old telnyashka, the traditional striped undershirt of the Russian military, beneath a great coat. The medals hanging from it clattered. He had been a Soviet paratrooper in Afghanistan, he told me, and was proud of it. But he was also a Ukrainian, from Donetsk, and when the war in Donbas started, he helped organize the volunteers from Pidlypne. He had been going to funerals like this one ever since. If this had been a few years ago, he said, the whole city would have turned out. There would have been thousands of mourners, not hundreds. “Now everyone is tired of the war,” he said. Though Ukrainian, he, too, longed for the days of the Soviet Union, he confided. Life was dependable then. The leaders might have been cruel, but they were honest. Now it was a mess. He didn’t know what to expect.”
«Do the ordinary Ukrainians troops frag their UkroNazi officers? No ways, the ordinary Ukrainian troops support their UkroNazi officers in all their efforts to kill Russian orientated Ukrainians. […] The ordinary Ukrainians don’t even kill their UkroNazi officers when the UkroNazi officers kill the ordinary Ukrainians troops when they want to surrender. Ordinary Ukrainians»
That completely wrong: the war of aggression by the ukrainian government against the people of the Donbas did not start in February 2022, it started in May 2014 (the critical date was the May 9th 2014 Mariupol massacre), and at the start of the war the ukrainian troops largely refused to massacre the Donbas people, and deserted or joined the Donbas militias, commanders and officers included, or those were fragged.
This meant that the fascist ukrainian government had to largely replace them with fanatical fascist militias like Azov or Right Sector, who are largely ruthenian and seem to enjoy massacring “kastaps”/muscovites. A swiss military expert cooperating with NATO, said this:
https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/?s=09>
«In 2014, when I was at NATO, I was responsible for the fight against the proliferation of small arms, and we were trying to detect Russian arms deliveries to the rebels, to see if Moscow was involved. The information we received then came almost entirely from Polish intelligence services and did not “fit” with the information coming from the OSCE — despite rather crude allegations, there were no deliveries of weapons and military equipment from Russia. The rebels were armed thanks to the defection of Russian-speaking Ukrainian units that went over to the rebel side. As Ukrainian failures continued, tank, artillery and anti-aircraft battalions swelled the ranks of the autonomists. This is what pushed the Ukrainians to commit to the Minsk Agreements. […] The Ukrainian army was then in a deplorable state.
In October 2018, after four years of war, the chief Ukrainian military prosecutor, Anatoly Matios, stated that Ukraine had lost 2,700 men in the Donbass: 891 from illnesses, 318 from road accidents, 177 from other accidents, 175 from poisonings (alcohol, drugs), 172 from careless handling of weapons, 101 from breaches of security regulations, 228 from murders and 615 from suicides.
In fact, the army was undermined by the corruption of its cadres and no longer enjoyed the support of the population. According to a British Home Office report, in the March/April 2014 recall of reservists, 70 percent did not show up for the first session, 80 percent for the second, 90 percent for the third, and 95 percent for the fourth. In October/November 2017, 70% of conscripts did not show up for the “Fall 2017” recall campaign. This is not counting suicides and desertions (often over to the autonomists), which reached up to 30 percent of the workforce in the ATO area. Young Ukrainians refused to go and fight in the Donbass and preferred emigration, which also explains, at least partially, the demographic deficit of the country.
The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense then turned to NATO to help make its armed forces more “attractive.” Having already worked on similar projects within the framework of the United Nations, I was asked by NATO to participate in a program to restore the image of the Ukrainian armed forces. But this is a long-term process and the Ukrainians wanted to move quickly.
So, to compensate for the lack of soldiers, the Ukrainian government resorted to paramilitary militias. They are essentially composed of foreign mercenaries, often extreme right-wing militants. In 2020, they constituted about 40 percent of the Ukrainian forces and numbered about 102,000 men, according to Reuters. They were armed, financed and trained by the United States, Great Britain, Canada and France. There were more than 19 nationalities — including Swiss.
Western countries have thus clearly created and supported Ukrainian far-right militias. In October 2021, the Jerusalem Post sounded the alarm by denouncing the Centuria project. These militias had been operating in the Donbass since 2014, with Western support.»
«Then there was Odessa. Not one person made a move to stop what was clearly becoming a murderous rampage, and after it was over, no one was ever held to account. An event like that should have triggered national outrage on the scale of the original Maidan, but nothing. Crickets.»
The Odessa massacre could still be blamed just on the ruthenian fascist militias but the real turning point was the Mariupol massacre of May 9th 2014, because it was done not by “anonymous” fascist militias, but by the uniformed official troops of the ukrainian government, that celebrated it (and the USA government endorsed it):
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/05/10/ukra-m10.html
«With the open support of Washington and its European allies, the regime installed by Washington and Berlin in last February’s fascist-led putsch is now extending its reign of terror against all popular resistance in Ukraine. That is the significance of the events in the major eastern Ukrainian city of Mariupol yesterday. After tanks, armored personnel carriers and heavily armed troops were unleashed on unarmed civilians in the city, the Kiev regime claimed to have killed some 20 people. The Obama administration immediately blamed the violent repression on “pro-Russian separatists.” This is the second time in a week that the Obama administration has defended the role of the Kiev government in the murder of anti-government demonstrators, having done so following the Odessa killings (see: “US defends role of Kiev regime and fascists in Odessa massacre”).
The violence bore all the hallmarks of a calculated provocation on the 69th anniversary of the defeat of Nazi Germany by the Soviet Red Army. […] These admirers of Hitler and his Ukrainian collaborators are now serving, with Washington’s full support, as the regime’s shock troops against popular opposition centered in the industrialized east of the country as well as in Russian-speaking centers such as Odessa in the south. The same forces have been given free rein to attack anyone in the west of the country who dares to oppose the fascistic government in Kiev. Outraged accounts from residents of Mariupol, verified by journalists on the ground, make it clear that many of those targeted by the Ukrainian National Guard and associated fascist elements on Friday had been participating in a Victory Day rally commemorating the anniversary.»
After the Mariupol massacre the people of the Donbas organized themselves in autonomous regions, even if V. Putin told them otherwise, as I guess he thought it was too soon, but they did it anyhow, and managed to survive and fight back the war of aggression from the ukrainian fascist government until today.
«I see people lining up for Russian passports. I get that, but what I want to know is this: Are they swearing an oath on a Bible or Koran? If they aren’t, then how do I know they’re really Russian, or want to be one?»
Well, after applying for Russian Federation (not “Russian”) citizenship they will be blacklisted as “traitors” by fascist ukrainian regime, and will risk their lives if they go back to it.
There is much sound and fury about Nazism and Ukraine, but what has largely been omitted by the Western “free press” (including some of the supposed “alternative” media) is the role of America in sponsoring Nazis for decades going back to the Cold War.
The American training and military support of the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion (by both Donald Trump and Joe Biden alike)in recent years is merely the continuation of America’s decades-long embrace of Nazism.
Seven Decades Of Nazi Collaboration: America’s Dirty Little Ukraine Secret
https://fpif.org/seven-decades-nazi-collaboration-americas-dirty-little-ukraine-secret/
The Truth About Nazism in Ukraine and Elsewhere
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2022/04/06/the-truth-about-nazism-in-ukraine-and-elsewhere/
Blowback: How US-funded fascists in Ukraine mentor American white supremacists
https://thegrayzone.com/2018/11/15/blowback-how-us-funded-fascists-in-ukraine-mentor-us-white-supremacists/
The US is arming and assisting neo-Nazis in Ukraine, while Congress debates prohibition
https://thegrayzone.com/2018/04/07/the-us-is-arming-and-assisting-neo-nazis-in-ukraine-while-congress-debates-prohibition/
The American-Nazi connection shouldn’t be surprising, as the Land of the Free shares a common heritage with Nazism: White Supremacy and Western Imperialism.
The difference between Nazism and Americanism (and indeed Westernism in general) is that the latter are more successfully able to disguise themselves behind the political veneer of “Western liberty and democracy.”
It is thus only appropriate that the collective West has so aggressively embraced, armed, bankrolled, and supported a Ukraine that has politically significant Nazi factions within it.
The West is merely embracing its own bastard child.
Anglo-Saxon Roots of German Nazism
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2011/07/05/anglo-saxon-roots-of-german-nazism/
Nazi Germany and American Indians
https://indiancountrytoday.com/opinion/nazi-germany-and-american-indians
What America Taught the Nazis
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/11/what-america-taught-the-nazis/540630/
Well written article with true human values expressed clearly.
Something that you will never read about in western media as they lack human values and moral decency.
Another fantastic article, Batiushka. Many thanks. You said:
“Russia is now a restored Eurasian Superpower, its double-headed eagle looking East and West, and the Eurasian Heartland, with 70% of the world’s population and so many living ancient civilisations, is the present and the future of the whole world. Russia’s task is to bring the Non-Russian part of Europe, in the Western part of the European Peninsula, back into the Eurasian orbit, liberating that Western Peninsula from its colonial vassal status to the USA, denazifying and demilitarising it too.”
This is a gigantic task; but, if Russia believes it is feasible, then I am sure it will happen.
It seems there are a lot of ethnic Ukrainians fighting with Russia. We need t hear more about these individuals, if possible. Leonid Pasechnik, a decorated ex Ukrainian military officer and the LPR leader is ethnic Ukrainian it would appear, judging by his surname (and so was Zakharchenko R.I.P.).
The western elites know very well that they are sponsoring the lowest common denominator in ukraine. They know the crimes and atrocities their bought nazi types are engaging in, but the west doesn’t care. That’s who they want. In fact, the west always sponsors the lowest common denominator in every society it wants to take over. The west prefers and promotes the most weak-willed, pliant, greedy, venal, stupid, and corrupt within society who are eager to carry out its wishes for bags of cash. This is why the US and EU are failing, and why the ukronazis are losing, and will eventually surrender, one way or another. A nation cannot survive and thrive on the ideology kiev is currently operating under.
«The western elites know very well that they are sponsoring the lowest common denominator in ukraine. They know the crimes and atrocities their bought nazi types are engaging in, but the west doesn’t care. That’s who they want.»
That’s what a famous USA president called “our bastards”, a concept that the USA elites did not invent.
«In fact, the west always sponsors the lowest common denominator in every society it wants to take over.»
Not always.In some cases those societies, or at least their upper and upper-middle classes, are eager to be USA vassals, because their interests are naturally aligned with those of the USA upper and upper-middle classes.
«The west prefers and promotes the most weak-willed, pliant, greedy, venal, stupid, and corrupt within society who are eager to carry out its wishes for bags of cash.»
If the interests of the local elites are not naturally aligned with those of the elites of the imperial centre, then imperial centre elites, and not just those of the USA, have always preferred to enforce their rule of vassal nations through “comprador” classes widely hated by the rest of the vassal population, so their loyalty would be ensured by the need to be “protected” from the latter.
The swastika should probably be overlaid with the American, British and Israeli flags.
Am I being mentally weak, or seeing something that is perhaps counter-intuitive to a lot of people?
The DPR has recently passed some death sentences on some UK citizens who are defined as mercenaries.
Setting aside whether they got a proper legal defence, (it’s hard to see that a guy wo’s married a Ukrainianan woman and got the passport is exactly “doing it for the money”) isn’t the DPR supposed to be Christian? In fact, isn’t this entire SMO supposed to be the Christians making a stand against Satans minions?
Jesus never dealt death. If you are to make a stand in his name, that’s a major thing to aspire to.
Maybe you can eventually win the P.R. war and justify the S.M.O. on the grounds that Ukraine was massing to strike the Donetsk, and actually get my fellow citizens to somehow become informed that there were Nazi’s in Ukraine and they were holding power (You don’t need to convince me, I’ve seen enough of the videos my compatriots won’t watch).
But at the end of the day, people like me who watch the videos on bitchute sometimes struggle to see just who are the good guys and who are not.
Killing people in battle is very different to killing your prisoners, from a nobilty and “rightness” point of view. .
Does Donetsk Peoples Republic really want to start it’s existence with a round of state sponsored killings of it’s now helpless opponents?
I know the old style experimental soviet / CIA brainwashing stuff is frowned on, but when people do stuff that warrants the death penalty, could they instead be offered “death or medially forced re-orientation”? Maybe we’d even find a way to fix the pedo’s, or other hard to treat mental issues? There has to be an alternative to killing peopel if it is to be a Christian solution.
And if it isn’t a “Christians versus the minions of satan” thing, then it becomes very hard to distinguish between the young men most of whom appear to be about my childs age, dying on that battlefield…
It will a long, very long, time before Chinese regard their government as tyranny.
The Chinese also like their doctors and nurses and paramedics.
Estimated 1,000,000 americans have died of covid.
About 5,200 Chinese have died of covid.
China can name and address almost every one who caught even a mild case.
america can not even count their cases, because states’ policies vary,
and testing is almost non-existent … not to mention a dire threat to freedom.
«Russian soldiers in the First World War were not anti-German, but anti-Kaiser, and in the Second World War were not anti-German, but anti-Nazi.»
Some were anti-german, but Stalin ordered them to stop that:
Ioseb dze Jughashvili, “The Order #55 of the National Commissar for the Defense”, 23 February 1942.
“Hitlers come and go, but Germany and the German people remain.”
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