what hand amongst the rubble
fixed you there
beneath vast spaces
of Novorussian skies?
left there leaning alone
blue stripe above as the sky
red stripe below as the blood
of the fallen
flying in the breeze
capturing hearts
with the silent joyful message
of victory and freedom
fixed you there
beneath vast spaces
of Novorussian skies?
left there leaning alone
blue stripe above as the sky
red stripe below as the blood
of the fallen
flying in the breeze
capturing hearts
with the silent joyful message
of victory and freedom
Very important Putin address to NAF.
http://eng.kremlin.ru/news/22863
Note that he addressed them as NOVOROSSIYA militia!
This is the first time afaik, I think this is extremely important news. Putin also said that Kiev is responsible for the bloodshed. And Putin also praised NAF, he said that theirs was a “major success”. And he asked NAF to have mercy on the Ukies!
Also this has to be seen in the context of todays propaganda about Russian “invasion”. So basically I think what Putin said there was a big fat “f*uck you”.
Sad to say but it looks like Croat vs. Serb in the Krajina all over again.
Expect that ‘wisemen’ in Washington are considering another Operation Storm ethnic-cleansing campaign (Galbraith: “honest, I didn’t know”) to pull the porko fat out of the fire.
Too bad for them it’s Russia and not Srpska Respublika on the line this time ’round.
Nora said:
Putin has called on the Novorossiyan forces to provide Kiev’s blocked military units a safe passage to Russia….
This was not only deeply humanitarian but a very deft move — and will not be lost on anyone who truly comprehends the situation
I utterly disagree! It will be lost on everyone, especially on hunta.
Ukies were offered a choice by the army of Novorossia – to give away the weapons, to surrender, and then go home, or to be eliminated. So let them choose.
I don’t know why Putin made this speech, I hope the Novorossians disregard it, as they have at the time of referendum.
Putin is trying to be Mr. Nice Guy, but it does not matter. The main goal of the West is to destroy Russia. If it takes billions of lives, so to be. Who cares? not USA/UK/EU/NATO,etc.
Sometimes enough is too much (this a joke of one of my friends)
N-V
@Larchmonter
I wish the “Polite Green Men” were invading the USA
Bring on the polite green men.
Unfortunately the work of liberating ourselves will have to be done by ourselves.
Russia will help those who help themselves. So far, I see only the barest signs of an awakening. What is needed is for the US dollar to collapse and for millions of people who thought they were rich to suddenly become poor.
The slow motion re invasion of Iraq and outright invasion of Syria goes on unopposed. Now is the time to start a shit storm of protest as was the case before the nearly attempted air strikes on Syria. If we rock their confidence now, it could start the ball rolling.
So whaddaya say?
Are you ready to at least call your congressman or whomever supposedly represents you?
Or shall we continue to hide behind our flickering screeens whilst pining for a saviour?
Dreams are good but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
Hope must be turned into action.
Demonized by the Western media but
Very humanitarian of Mr. Putin in requesting NAF to open a safe passage to Russia for the surrounded Kiev men. My question: will they exit to return to fight? OTH, NAF will deplete scarce resources holding them as POWs.
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Today’s NATO proof the Russians have invaded. FWIW, Yonatan at MoA observes Zero Proof
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2014/08/zero-proof-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine.html
“The NATO document headline is “New Satellite Imagery Exposes Russian Combat Troops Inside Ukraine”
i) the dates of the five images are 21 Aug, 23 Aug, 20 Aug, 23 Jul (x2) – hardly new imagery.
ii) image 3 is 50 km inside Russia, image 4 is 6.5 km inside Russia and image 5 is a wider shot of image 4 showing the border.
Two out of the five images are over a month old and three out of five show sites well inside Russia, so there is a nice bait and switch going on.”
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A must read article that’s on the money:
Kiev’s action places EU Gas Supply in A Real and Imminent Danger
(snip)
<<< It looks like the EU, and especially Germany, has started to smell – potential – trouble:
EU Suggests Russia, Ukraine Sign Interim Gas Agreement
The E.U. has suggested an interim agreement on the gas supplies between Russia and Ukraine without waiting for a Stockholm arbitrary court decision, E.U. Energy Commissioner Gunther Oettinger said in a news conference following his meeting with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko late Tuesday Two cases are before the Stockholm court, but the hearings will take 12-15 months, which is too long, while Europe needs an interim solution for this winter, Oettinger said In June, Russian gas giant Gazprom switched Ukraine off gas over the unpaid debt and filed a $4.5 billion suit to the Stockholm arbitration court. Later, Kiev reciprocated by sending a suit to the court against Gazprom for making Ukraine overpay $6 billion for gas since 2010, setting too high prices in its contract.
The Russian Legal Information Agency has this:
Putin: Naftogaz Suit Against Gazprom Axes Discount For Ukraine
The fact that Ukraine’s Naftogaz has invoked arbitration proceedings against Gazprom prevents Russia from giving Ukraine a gas price discount, President Vladimir Putin said in Minsk where he met with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko. “We cannot even consider any preference solutions for Ukraine since it pursues arbitration,” Putin said. “Russia’s possible actions in this sphere could be used against it in the court. We couldn’t do it even if we wanted to.” After Gazprom switched to a prepayment system for gas deliveries to Ukraine on June 16, Naftogaz turned to the Arbitration Institute of the Stockholm Chamber of Commerce. Naftogaz wants Gazprom to cut the price for gas and to get back $6 billion that Ukraine has allegedly overpaid since 2010.
Gazprom in turn is seeking to recover Ukraine’s $4.5 billion debt for gas deliveries. Putin said Russia offered a compromise solution during the talks held before Gazprom switched to the prepayment scheme. “We reduced the price by $100,” Russian President said. Gas talks between Russia, Ukraine and the European Union went on from April to mid-June. Kiev said it would not repay its $4.5 billion debt unless Russia agreed to supply gas at a lower price. Russia offered a discount, but Ukraine turned down the offer. Russia then said it would only resume gas supply talks after Ukraine paid off its debt.
More signs of German nerves are here in a piece from the European Council on Foreign Relations – I kid you not, they exist -, along with a nice but curious admission:
Has Germany Sideline Poland in Ukraine Crisis Negotiations
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AM
Yes, Putin’s appeal for a corridor to drain the pus – I mean, the defeated soldiers – of the wounded Donbass strikes me too as completely “deft”.
What a way to clear the battlefield and process all the names and histories of the combatants using Russia’s personnel instead of tying up the NAF. Not to mention framing the defeat as a fait accompli, and praising the Donbass publicly for checking the punishers.
I’m glad the mainstream mouthpiece is flooding the world with lies about a Russian invasion – the more the enemy massages its bruised ego, the more chance it will accept this defeat without escalating.
The lies only serve to diminish the old institutions further, let them burn themselves out. All that matters is facts on the ground – to deploy the infamous Colson principle: When the NAF has them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.
When I saw this cartoon over @ Col. Cassad’s site [5 trackers] I couldn’t stop laughing for a long time. Brilliant.
@daniel rich 00:49, 29-Aug, 2014.
That cartoon you provided was hilarious, I laughed for several minutes too; when i realized how harmless those axe-wielding kitten looked and seeing Slava-ukraina written on the soles of the thug representing the Junta.
I recommend everyone look at this too (goto Daniel’s comment for the link)..
@Saker et @Everyone,
This is a fantastic thread and the commentary are priceless indeed, especially the references and links. It is wonderful to see such enthusiasm and commitment from so many. It’s like a breath of fresh air! Below are a couple of images grabbed via the CBC than many may appreciate and they are followed by the captions as well…
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http://i.cbc.ca/1.2749864.1409262786!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/ukraine-crisis.jpg
Pro-Russian separatists walk at a destroyed war memorial on Savur-Mohyla, a hill east of the city of Donetsk on Thursday. (Maxim Shemetov/Reuters)
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http://i.cbc.ca/1.2749792.1409259745!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_620/ukraine-crisis.jpg
This map indicates where recent clashes between pro-Russian separatists and Ukrainian forces occurred. (Reuters)
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It has been quite a busy day following along with the never ending “updates” to the AP propaganda being spewed via the CBC news site. Also, we would like to appeal to our fellow Canuckians that may have a moment or few. Please consider assisting us in our archiving endeavours as we are bogged down with screegrabbing and text/link archiving of the articles. If you have some time, please feel free to contact us via our site. We have received a reply/request to our last summary that is seeking a better overview than we can efficiently provide so any help would be greatly appreciated, either via the comment thread or our contact page. We have provided the ability to do so in an anonymous fashion in much the same way as Saker has done…
https://dumpharper.wordpress.com/2014/08/27/cbcnews-propaganda-challenge-harper-vs-cdnpoli-vs-ukraine-vs-russia/
DumpHarper!
Ukrainian Association with EU and the Mutiny of the Euro-Integrators.
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/08/28/ukrainian-association-with-eu-and-the-mutiny-of-the-euro-integrators-150314/
NATO Releases Satellite Imagery “Proof” That Russia Has Invaded Ukraine
http://usnato.tumblr.com/post/96003086125/new-satellite-imagery-exposes-russian-combat-troops
So now Nato says if you act a certain way they can tell who you are.. If you are in a certain place then they can tell who you are.. So soon foggy ras was right all along. He can see and tell everything because he is all knowing and all wise..
…over Saur-Mogila:
http://imgur.com/l7TKPNp
Brad Cabana:
Is this yet another cauldron debacle? Incredible ineptitude.
MY TAKE:Big story of the day was the #Ukraine counterattack around #Mariupol.The bigger story is reserves committed, an now trapped #cdnpoli
A statement from Odessa:
Odessa is not surrendered, she, as the song of B Vysotsky, “hid for a while…” Woe to the occupants, the junta and the Nazis when it will rise. And this time is not far off. Pearl of the sea is not in the former Ukraine, and in the emerging new Russia. Only in Russian state our pearl will be able to Shine with all the colors, it is not repainted in dull colors of fascism, it will be neither black nor brown! Will attain freedom in the new Russia!
I thnk it is complete horseshit that Putin disavows any assistance to Novorossiya and then has the chutzpah to demand they let the trapped killers go free to be recycled back in to murder more civilians and Novorossiyan fighters
You’re either in or you’re out Vlad and you have made sure to keep the resistors at arm’s length
You don’t have a say now that they are winning
No mercy. Justice for the colorados, niggers and crispy critters murdered by Pol pot Shenko and the Nazis
I am sure that the local sculptors/soldiers will come up with the design that best reflects present and past battles/memories of the fallen.
Regards, Spiral
I’m a rock musician and I specialize in song titles above all else, basically revolutionary slogans – that’s my thing. When I first read the phrase “Donetsk People’s Republic” – I knew it was a winner. And then – “New Russia” – can’t be denied. It’s a thing. It’s gonna make it, I know. It’s actually more American than anything happening in America right now.
@ Alien Tech,
Q: NATO…
R: Of course they can track everything. That’s why we know [exactly] what happened to MH370 and MH17…
Oops, ‘we’ don’t, ‘they’ do.
Ping, pING, Ping, pING, Ping, pING…
…over Saur-Mogila by Prue Benson (updated)
http://imgur.com/PAenNQF
Prue Benson,
Thank you very much for this beautiful poem
It immediately made me think of Inna Kukurudza, killed by the Nazis in Luhansk in June. The images of Inna and so many other victims have been gnawing at me, and I find your poem soothing.
“what hand amongst the rubble
fixed you there
beneath vast spaces
of Novorussian skies?
left there leaning alone
blue stripe above as the sky
red stripe below as the blood
of the fallen
flying in the breeze
capturing hearts
with the silent joyful message
of victory and freedom”
(Prue Benson)
The Ukrainian putsch is failing. Thy need Nato NOW or they will have to run away from the Ukraine and the West will be exposed to justifiable censure.
But ‘with the silent joyful message of victory and freedom’, well sorry but as much as I see the Ukraine as a sign of Western depravity, there is no such thing as victory and freedom in war.
daodejing:
“Upon victory power feels regret for to carry the day is against way (dao)
Victory is that lie to justify slaughter”
This is not idealism. It is simple hard fact. War is silly, childish and destructive. There is nothing else to be said about it.
A massive funeral for all who have been killed in this inhuman mess in the Ukraine so that the children on all sides can ‘carry funerals home for all they have killed’ (daodejing31)and so grow up in the process.
@Vasco da Gama:…over Saur-Mogila by Prue Benson (updated) http://imgur.com/PAenNQF
Thanks a lot, I updated the post!
Cheers,
The Saker
re: Saur-Mogila by Prue Benson
http://imgur.com/PAenNQF
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Ave atque vale to the petrodollar.
We may not do much well anymore, but we still are amazingly adept at shooting ourselves in the, er, foot. According to RIA Novosti, Russia quietly responded to our sanctions in another way, too.
“Last week, Russia began to ship oil from the Novoportovskoye field to Europe by sea. Two oil tankers are expected to arrive in Europe in September. According to Kommersant, the payment for these shipments will be received in rubles.
Gazprom Neft will not only accept payments in rubles; subsequent transfers via the ESPO may be paid for in yuan, the newspaper reported.
According to the newspaper, the change in currency was made because of the Western sanctions against Russia.
In March, in response to Crimea’s reunification with Russia, the United States and the European Union introduced a number of targeted sanctions against Russia.
As the Ukrainian crisis escalated, the United States introduced several new rounds of sanctions targeting Russia’s defense, energy and banking sectors, and persuaded its allies to blacklist several Russian citizens and companies.
As a protective measure, Russia decided to avoid making its payments in US dollars, which can be tracked and controlled by the United States government, Kommersant reported.”
It’s not go or chess vs. checkers or poker: We. Play. Tiddlywinks. Or maybe throw spitballs. I don’t even blame Obama for getting stoned or playing golf or whatever it is he does. Right now it’s just like being on the Titanic and realizing, yup, it’s happening.
Saker, this is my take on the situation from a western european, but independent pov.
http://staatsstreich.at/ukraine-will-the-east-secede.html
Again, thanks for your work. Andreas, Vienna
@ 29 August, 2014 00:27 Oh I think the New World Order elites very much want billions of us dead, but they very much wish to live, and most of them and their immediate most useful minions also wish to keep on going to London, Hamptons, Courchevel, Cote d’Azur and wherever else they hang out. Hence their fear of nuclear war and willigness to escalate up until their bluff gets called. However there is still the risk that Novorossiya’s rise will be tolerated as long as the NWO thinks it has the last laugh by finally using their ISIS psychopath minions to break into Syria and topple Assad while pretending to fight ISIS. I don’t think it’s going to work because the Assad regime or more specifically Assad’s core supporters proven themselves much tougher than anyone expected, particularly the neocons who said the ‘Free Syrian Army’ would take Damascus two years ago. So the NWO’s dreams of toppling Assad and finally being able to have a Qatari gas pipe to the EU will have to wait many more years. After all the US certainly can’t try to take Syria and then turn around and deal with Novorossiya forces trying to march on Odessa to avenge the Trade Unions Building mass murder, can they? Even the Empire in trying to attack the petrodollar’s enemies on all fronts is spread very thin these days…
Sheeple, activists, barricadists, et al
I’ve done the political stuff since the 60’s, big time, anti-war, pro civil rights, anti-intervention, anti-Eltie, pro no nukes, and on and on. Inside the Democratic party, inside the Republican party, walked the streets and stuffed mail boxes; in 2008 I organized one of the most effective networks of hundreds of phone callers in the presidential primaries; back in the ’90’s worked for Perot (all efforts were always to throw the bums out, to stop an overseas hegemonic action, to short circuit what we have now).
Political action in America is an illusion. Even when you win a minor victory, it is marginalized. The Tea Party tax revolt, small government initiative is able only to win some Representatives. Senatorial races are beyond reach.
There is not hope for a third party. If Teddy Roosevelt couldn’t do it, no one is going to break the Elite control of both wings of the Establishment.
No. The principle to end our misery is to support Eurasia, Putin, Russia and the Chinese. Why do I say that? Archimedes Law of the Lever.“Give me a place to stand and with a lever I will move the whole world.”
You have to put the lever in the right place. Moscow is the right place to lift the yoke off the mass of humanity. The strategy of Putin and Xi to kill the power of the dollar, the petrodollar and Bank of International Settlements are all doable goals. It all can happen.
Getting reform of the UN, the IMF, the World Bank, the Federal Reserve and central bank cartel are not possible.
We are supporting the right cause in backing the fight for Liberty against Tyranny in Novorossiya. It is the first wave against Eurasia. It is the attack against religion, the final fight for religion. It is the assault against freakoid gender politics, against normal family structures, against GMO and abuse of natural resources like rich top soil for food instead of shopping malls and industrial waste.
Our best hope to life the yoke inside America without violence is to spread the truth and proof of the truth of the normalcy of Russia and Putin and the good people of Donbass and the RF.
That lever is stuck right under NATO/EU/USA and Putin knows how to use it and when.
If Putin wins the next series of challenges, he cripples the Hegemon. In that political space, people might have an opportunity to clean out the stables. But there are not leaders with this in mind. Most Americans identify government as country, country as government.
For me, country is the Constitution, the social contract we have. Government comes way down my list and it never gets my loyalty. My loyalty is to my fellow citizens and my country. Not the cesspool of bureaucrats, liars and criminals who supposedly work for us and represent us.
In fact, I feel as a human being and as a fierce lover of Liberty and the Constitution that the DPR Army is fighting for me and Putin is leading the vast billions of people who want a better system for global relationships.
Just remember, every People’s movement in American history has been co-opted, diverted, crushed or corrupted. Tyrants know their business. Most people don’t understand the dynamics of Tyranny. Especially, people who are programmed to believe the false story.
I was so stunned by the two boats to Europe of bye-bye petrodollar, I forgot to include the URL:
http://en.ria.ru/business/20140827/192383783/Russias-Gazprom-Neft-to-Sell-Oil-For-Rubles-Yuan.html
Now how does one predict the banksters’ response? And are Obama and Merkel really going to discuss more sanctions? ???
Larchmonter,
Some humor you may appreciate here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pje5ROe5Y_w
God willing the situation of the Nazis in this Kiev Junta soon, but they’ll be surrendering to Ukrainians!
Unfortunately, the posting by @Anon 19:51 sounds like the next step.
See: “US and Europe have a Feasible Military Option for Defending Ukraine”
It’s the usual strategy: NATO is going in but “This will not be a NATO mission”. This “limited” military “option” requires few “boots on the ground”. Check, got the key weasel word in there: “limited” (for today, at least). Explicit parallels are made with Afghanistan and Libya (and how’s that working out for ya, NATO?).
The MSM has gone into full retard spin mode about the “Russian invasion”. It doesn’t matter if we readers of the alternate media know this is propaganda. What matters is if the stakeholders in NATO understand the situation. Note that this statement doesn’t believe consensus within NATO is possible or even desirable: “a transatlantic coalition led by the U.S., Britain, France, Poland and Romania could host and deploy a more than adequate force multiplier”. So, it’s going to be coalition of the willing 2.0?
Larchmonter,
The Constitution is not a social contract, it is a political one delineating the balance of power between the three branches of… government. Please read the Federalist Papers to understand the thinking behind it.
I would be interested though in hearing more of your thoughts on tyranny, which is generally defined as absolute power vested in a single ruler. Which, polemics aside and propaganda notwithstanding, we ain’t got.
And I’m also curious as to how a figurative lever in Moscow will fix everything here without We The People lifting a finger, especially given your claims that “every People’s movement in American history has been co-opted, diverted, crushed or corrupted.” I’m wondering if you could please give me some examples of that bc I can think of a few, sure, but also some where compromises were made and gains obtained until the need no longer existed, or where the individuals involved simply lost interest, made poor choices or stopped paying attention. I.e., the fizzling-out was not necessarily a function of TPTB so much as the movement members themselves.
And no, we’re no good for a third party but yes, we do have leverage come November, if we unite to use it. It’ll be hard to tolerate any of the creeps now in office, but they want to keep their jobs and if they have to listen to us for one, they will — if there are enough of us to put on the pressure.
The point is, the petrodollar is dead, but we’re still responsible for fixing this place, re-establishing the FF’s system of checks and balances, tweaking it, or replacing it. Nothing good can possibly happen otherwise and waiting on Putin rather than spending some time and effort figuring out exactly what needs to be done and then doing it, will accomplish precisely zero except handing this golden opportunity right back to the banksters.
What do you think?
http://cs624917.vk.me/v624917475/94/PTJCu6iAVX0.jpg
Medea
I watched the video of the new commander of the Rebel Army and he said that they don’t keep the nazis as prisoners….
That’s what they do with them.
To
Jack Burton Zerohedge ::
That’s a great piece of writing…the whole alternative media is screaming war…
Which is why I like this site.. about the successful ending of the war, not the beginning of WW3…
Hopefully the next 7 days pass without declaration and we all live to love and laugh at our grandchildrens’ games.
Love to all…
Anon 19:51
You’re in the wrong room…get on the nearest plane to Kiev and enlist…
If you wear their logo you might not come home…
To Anonymous Larchmonter445
What a wonderful post explaining your position from a U.S. viewpoint. I don’t have the awesome activist background as you do as I was busy raising five children as a single mom. Kids gone and retired, I got quite active on Facebook and doing research.
My mission was to support the likes of Sen. Cruz until I got banned from posting by FB. They/Obama don’t like some info to get out.
That’s when I started researching outside of the U.S. and got another education so to speak. After my six month FB ban was over, my posts on Sen. Cruz’s page and twitter are quite different. His strength is distractions and it works, but hopefully I’m a little pain in his side.
I do post some info from Russian news sites such as RT and hopefully some will check out the links I provide. If we can only get Americans to check out the other side, we may get something accomplished if only to open their eyes.
Also thanks to Saker and to all who write such informative posts. Thank you so much!
Sharon
Nora :23:09
I like sheep…they are the sweetest of the herbivores…and I’m not kidding.
I don’t think it is a cure to beat yourself and the rest of us up….
“Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free” Christ didn’t say do the truth…
Maybe its not possible for us to make these nebulous changes that you mention until more people are with us…and by “us” I don’t mean “them”.
Now…please, with all politeness and friendliness…don’t include me in the “bad us”…I’m just living my life and trying not to damage planet Earth as much as I can….
The higher world is still there if we can convince the sleepers to awake….then the answers will be there to meet us….
Observer
Yo write very funny posts…I like the part about the inbreds…
But as far as Putin shipping Prozac…I think he goes organic…
Not main stream medicine for Russia…they only like honey bees….
Nora said…@ 29 August, 2014 03:25
“We may not do much well anymore, but we still are amazingly adept at shooting ourselves in the, er, foot.”
Perhaps through omission, a subliminal denial of the agency of others in encouragement?
dear Leolo Lazone:
From UK I follow all developments in Ukraine with deep interest.
probably there are millions of us out there, listening for words of truth from Russia – showers of truth – replacing the daily propaganda showers –
so, peace and love!
and to Vasco da Gama, beautiful, thank you
Prue Benson
American Kulak, you are correct that ISIS, ISIL, IS, another US-created death-squad like al-Qaeda, the KLA, the Operation Phoenix butchers, the Contras, the Operation Condor thugs, the ‘Salvador Solution’ in Iraq or the jihadists in Libya, will be bombed to power in Syria. The excuse to turn the bombers onto the Syrian forces, while sparing all those billions invested in IS will not even need to be in any way plausible or rational, because the evil filth of the Western MSM will simply regurgitate anything their owners tell them to. Highly paid jobs are as rare as hens’ teeth in the West these days.
@ Larchmonter
What Mussolini meant was “the merger of State and corporate power” under the control of the State.
In fact, Mussolini did nationalize the banks in Italy.
In America today you have “the merger of State and corporate power” under the control of the corporations.
In fact, banks did privatize the State in America.
Just a frendly warning, Criemrians and to you all, dont loose your head and dont push it.
I was afraid for a while, deeps into the abyss of darkness we all have walked, and when the light comes, think, remeber the true rason for this war, whom isnt ours and not yours in making.
Nor have I by my own history reason for trusting anyone, nor the Russians nor the western worlds, and finaly, I have reatched my raods end, the TRUE evil in this world is been revailed.
What will come isnt certain, but what we can do is clear, fight for our future, for our land and people.
I dont like this “tribal drivell” about humans, this is the sole reason for this missery and neverending wars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwGMO9Y56B0
A old Chossac song, and listen carefully to its lyrics.
Love life, respect everything, tread lightly and you have done all our lod can espect for a human.
may the lord continue to enlighten you path and to gain wisdom.
peace
@ Larchmonter
Your loyalty must be to the Truth!
That’s the only way to escape the main ruse of the enemy: the endless creation of false thesis and antithesis, whose synthesis is always more of the same devilish blob who rules the world.
Provided that you understand the Truth (Christ and His Word), you must put It above every dialectic
It’s not a subject for discussion.
The Lord ceased to talk at the Pilate’s question: ‘what is the truth?”.
In political terms, if you want to avoid that great human conquests, as the Novorossija victory against the satanic hordes of the West, would end up infiltrated, hijacked and bought off, that is ending up with more of the same, you have to deny any political dialect over the Truth.
It’s not up for discussion, nor changes. It is and everything public must conform to it.
The power of the State must reside in that Truth, not in the “people”, people who for the most part are educated and programmed by the devil and ignorant as donkeys (by consequence).
You may put It in the Constitution, but with the provision that the part regarding It is immutable, not subject to revision, discussion or interpretation.
Moreover, you have to provide effective mean to assure that the Constitution stand against the servants of the dark master.
First of all, I repeat, you must put the legitimacy of public power into the respect of that Truth. Authority derives from It and dies without It.
Then you need a few derivative provisions, which would implement in practice that standing.
They are easily conceivable!
Ann,
I love sheep too, but we’re not sheep, we were given a far different set of brains and in this country we’ve stopped using them. I’m not beating anyone up, myself included, but I am speaking my mind and will continue to do so as long as we all have that right.
I’m also not the least bit sorry my words about the bizarre passivity of the American public are making you uncomfortable; my hope is simply that people will think them through a little bit more and recognize that — just like the 95% of the Israeli population who either support or do not speak out against the horrors being done in Gaza — we are in fact responsible for the depredations performed by the people we put in office and pay every month to do what they do. They’re not a “them” at all — they’re a part of us we may dislike, but doing nothing about it except whining and complaining is *not* what our Founding Fathers expected of us. They expected us to be actively involved in our self-government: that is the duty of a citizen and we have not and are not fulfilling that obligation. So it’s not a matter of *me* including you in the “bad us” — you’re doing that yourself. And again, back when we were doing things we were proud of, we had no trouble at all using the word “we”. I remember those times very well indeed, and they weren’t so long ago, either. So if we can use “we” for the good stuff, we’ve got no reason whatever not to use it for the bad.
But you’re absolutely on to something when you say, ‘Maybe its not possible for us to make these nebulous changes that you mention until more people are with us…and by “us” I don’t mean “them”.
That is precisely my point! First we need to talk to people and help them understand that we need to work together on this; forget blaming the other side in these stupid Culture Wars: that’s exactly what TPTB want us to keep doing bc that way they can keep getting away with more! It’s not Liberals or Conservatives who are the problem: it’s what AGS has dubbed the sos. Then, we need to work together — but I’m a little too factual to be real big on “nebulous changes”, I’m talking about very specific stuff. It just requires a willingness on all of our parts to challenge some of the propaganda-based sound-bites and assumptions we’ve all been fed, and swallowed whole. That may *feel* nebulous as you struggle with the process, but it really, really isn’t.
HI Nora !
Ok, I can go along with being “on board”….but I think I’m already on board and I don’t know what else to do except try and convince people about “the real deal”…I actually have lost most friends and sometimes even bosses) because of my political views…I don’t know what else to do, that’s why I said nebulous changes….
I know what “should be” but how to achieve it ??? I don’t really want to get shot… I have dependents…
I really believe that we can only know the truth and pray…the rest is up to the future…
God bless, Nora…