Speech by Hezbollah Secretary General, Sayed Hassan Nasrallah, on August 17, 2021, on the occasion of the commemoration of the 9th night of Ashura, two days before the martyrdom of Imam Hussein.
Source: video.moqawama.org
Translation: resistancenews.org
Transcript:
[…] My last point is Afghanistan, which I quickly mentioned before. What is happening in Afghanistan right now is an emergency situation that is grabbing the attention of the whole world. Inside the United States, this is the main event all are talking about, and of course everyone blames each other, just like in Lebanon, people are all the same: the Republican Party blames the Democrat Party, blames Biden, and describes the scene as a humiliation for the United States, (a proof of) weakness, helplessness, failure, historic defeat, shame, disgrace, etc. If we want to faithfully describe (the political situation in the United States), we can say that they are tearing each other apart. The same goes for the position of European countries, of the leaders of certain European countries [United Kingdom, France, Germany…], who speak with very strong and very negative words to assess the situation in Afghanistan.
Suppressed crocodile tears: that’s all British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace has to offer all his Afghan allies that the Royal Army won’t evacuate.#Afghanistan https://t.co/HbIh7DR9ay
— Le Cri des Peuples (@cridespeuples2) August 21, 2021
It is indeed a striking and vitally important spectacle, filled with lessons to be learned, and we all must… It is not something that one or two speeches is enough to describe, for the situation continues to develop, and deserves everyone to watch it carefully and think about it seriously, very seriously. This should not simply be of interest to (pseudo-)experts (in) strategic (issues), who are very numerous today, ma sha Allah, experts, analysts, no: all men and women (must feel) that what is currently happening in Afghanistan (is their concern), and all that has been said so far remains little in the face of the importance and consequences of what is happening in Afghanistan, at the historical, strategic, ideological, cultural, political, psychological and moral levels. And those who must be the most assiduous in the reading (and the interpretation) of this (considerable) event to draw the strategic and historical consequences from it are the peoples of this region. Yes, the people of the Middle East must be the first to care about what is happening. Because what is happening in Afghanistan is a very big and even masterful lesson.
The images that you see and have all seen on TV screens speak for themselves… and all the media around the world (follow and broadcast what is happening), because however strong the censorship system of the United States may be, (it is powerless to prevent the mass distribution of these images). On the subject of social networks and the Internet, which the United States has opened up and spread around the world to instrumentalize them in color revolutions here and there, they find themselves caught in their own trap, because even inside of the United States, the government of Biden can certainly influence such newspapers or such television channels (to dissuade them from broadcasting these humiliating images), but how could it prevent millions and tens of millions of users of social networks who disseminate and share these images? And glory to God, these are exactly the same images as in Vietnam! As in Saigon, the (American nationals) climbed stairs to access a helicopter on a roof (and escape), we see exactly the same thing happening at Kabul airport! It’s extraordinary ! A real photocopy! Can we believe that this is just a coincidence?
PHOTO 1: US diplomat evacuate US from embassy via helicopter as the #Taliban enter #Kabul from all sides. #Afghanistan (2021)
PHOTO 2: US diplomat evacuate US from embassy via helicopter as the PAVN & Viet Cong capture of Saigon, Vietnam (1975) pic.twitter.com/YamWmzjOay
— Stefan Simanowitz (@StefSimanowitz) August 15, 2021
Either way, the images of Afghanistan and the fall of Afghanistan into the hands of the very movement that the United States fought for 20 years and expelled (from power), before handing the country over to them on a silver platter… The Taliban flag flies over Kabul airport. I have already mentioned Afghanistan in my previous speech [cf. below], and today Biden took the floor to try to defend himself… I said before that instead of rushing to achieve the withdrawal of his troops, as long as the American forces were present , and since the Afghan forces (formed by the USA) have 300,000 to 400,000 members —between soldiers and police forces— he should have cut a deal between the Afghan government and the Taliban, in favor of the formation of a transitional government, which would have avoided everything that happened, allowing the United States to withdraw with dignity. Why didn’t he do this? Because he couldn’t bear to stay any longer (in Afghanistan). Honestly! It was not out of respect that Biden did not do this. And don’t take my word for it, listen to what Biden himself said! Listen to Biden, listen to his Secretary of State and his National Security Advisor… Because now they are forced to explain themselves to the American people… They do not explain themselves to the peoples of the world, but to the American people who is amazed at these humiliating images of defeat and failure. Listen to his explanations, and you will understand the American point of view. I’m not going to make you a (full) TV report, but I hope everyone will listen carefully to what Biden said yesterday, today, and what American (authorities) will say in the days to come. Give seriously some time to their statements, as this will give a good understanding of the historical and strategic consequences of the (humiliating) defeat and (monumental) failure of the United States and NATO in Afghanistan. It is a matter of concern to us as peoples of the region, and gives us lessons that we can use for our present and our future.
I’m going to stop on two points (of Biden’s speech). In his speech today, he said “We have spent over a trillion dollars, that is over a thousand billion dollars! They spent a trillion dollars in Afghanistan! And they left crestfallen, empty-handed, with Honaïn’s shoes as the saying goes, humiliated, defeated, ashamed, in disgrace. And this according to the admission of their own media, and Western media. What does this prove? That they have failed (miserably), that they have been routed, that they are helpless, ignorant and stupid. Biden himself said that the US did not foresee that the Afghan government and forces would collapse so quickly, and was surprised that they neither fought nor resisted. The Secretary of State and the National Security Advisor said the same thing. What does this indicate? People imagine the United States to be a demigod, omniscient, analyzing and mastering everything at their fingertips, knowledgeable about everything, able to plan everything through its state-of-the-art study and planning centers with top notch skill and technology, with huge & infaillible plans, etc. But the reality is far from all that! In our region, the United States is ignorant, unable to understand anything! For decades, they have been repeating the same mistakes, deploying the same experiments and the same calculations doomed to failure! This is one of the lessons to be learned!
Biden says it is not the fault of the United States, but the fault of the Afghan forces who did not fight. But my dear, these Afghan forces, you left them without air force, because the air force is in your hands, (and you did not allow them to develop it), while claiming that you spent a trillion dollars . This is the first point. Second, these Afghan forces were led by your generals, who prepared doomed (war) plans for them! What (war) plans did you concoct, what (military) advice did you provide to these Afghan forces? Third, what did Biden want (ultimately)? What does his confession reveal? Because he did not know how to hold his tongue, too entangled in his defense (awkward, and he unmasked himself). He wanted a civil war! He wanted the Afghan forces to wage war on the Taliban, a war between hundreds of thousands (of fighters) against hundreds of thousands (of fighters), and he would just have to sit down and enjoy the spectacle. bloody in Afghanistan.
Civil war, bloodbath… BHL’s wildest dream for #Afghanistan
“It’s good for Israel” https://t.co/cKg7aC3YyR
— Le Cri des Peuples (@cridespeuples2) August 21, 2021
Whereas if he had humanity, and cared (for the well-being) of people as he claims, he would have presided over an agreement and a settlement of the conflict before withdrawing from Afghanistan. (This contempt for the lives of Afghans) is an ethical and moral downfall of the American administration! This moral degradation is emphasized even by leading politicians and commentators in the United States and elsewhere. This is why Biden says today that he wanted a political solution (between the Afghan government and the Taliban), but that Ashraf Ghani, the Afghan President, did not want it. You see? Biden pins the blame on him, and claims to be faultless!
These words reminded me of those verses of the Qur’an which speak of the devil: “[And Satan will say when the matter is decided: “It was God Who gave you a promise of truth: I too promised but I failed in my promise to you. I had no authority over you except to call you but ye listened to me.] Then reproach not me but reproach your own souls. » [Quran, 14, 22] (The damned) are invited not to impute to the devil (their bad actions which will lead them to Hell), but to only blame themselves!
What were the American administrations doing with all the those tax dollars in Afghanistan? pic.twitter.com/winabg5GEn
— Syrian Girl 🇸🇾🎗 (@Partisangirl) August 16, 2021
It was you (pro-US Afghans) who put yourselves at the service of the Americans, who listened to them and obeyed them, who placed your hopes in them and bet on them, but they got to the point where they told you (quite simply) fare well, « Bye-bye » [Nasrallah says it in English]. And what kind of « Bye-bye » are we talking about? What is happening at Kabul airport is incredible, it is heartbreaking and sad. Because in the end (these Afghans who want to flee) are human beings. We have all seen this (American military) plane advance with dozens of people around it, without worrying about them, without the pilot stopping, while he could have run over them!
🇦🇫⚡️AFGHANISTAN CONFLICT
Kabul airport on the morning Of August 16, 2021#HORRIFIC
❌ ⚡️SHOCKING video shows Afghans HANGING ONTO AMERICAN AIRCRAFT’S UNDERCARRIAGE as it takes off!#Afghanistan #Kabul #AfghanistanCrisis #Taliban #USA pic.twitter.com/WR1v1niXK4
— The RAGEX (@theragex) August 16, 2021
❌ ⚡️SHOCKING video shows Afghans HANGING ONTO AMERICAN AIRCRAFT’S UNDERCARRIAGE as it takes off!#Afghanistan #Kabul #AfghanistanCrisis #Taliban #USA pic.twitter.com/WR1v1niXK4
And he saw that people had clung to the plane, but took off anyway! Whether they fall and crash (horribly to the ground) or not, that’s not his problem!
Desperate Afghans trying to flee the Taliban hanging on to US military plane to get out of Kabul and fall to their deaths. Low flying US Apache helicopters chasing Afghan civilians off the runway with their rotor blades. But Julian Assange is the criminal? pic.twitter.com/RPT1o48MqL
— Kim Dotcom (@KimDotcom) August 16, 2021
This is the United States! What I’m telling you is all over the media, I’m not inventing anything! They embarked police dogs, but did not embark the Afghans who collaborated with them!
U.S. military dogs being evacuated from Afghanistan on Sunday. pic.twitter.com/fxfIA49zEq
— Phillip Walter Wellman (@pwwellman) August 16, 2021
They embarked equipment which costs only money, but did not embark human beings, who are human beings, men, with human rights! Such is the United States, (this is their true face)!
Everything that is happening in Afghanistan, even if in Lebanon we are absorbed by our daily problems, I hope that we will pay attention to it and will consider it as the pivotal moment that it is, because for 50 or 60 years, there was nothing like it. And this will have a great impact on international policies, international relations, international alliances. And today, those who observe and comment on these events most attentively are the Israelis!
If the US stopped supporting Israel tomorrow, Tel Aviv would fall faster that Kabul.
— Syrian Girl 🇸🇾🎗 (@Partisangirl) August 16, 2021
Because when Biden said, and this is a message to all of America’s allies in the region (including Israel), when Biden was defending himself, he said something very, very, very, very, very, very, very… (repeat it until you lose your breath) important, and I hope America’s “friends” in Lebanon and the region will read this very carefully. Biden said “American troops cannot and should not be fighting in a war and dying in a war in the place of anyone else.“ If anyone expects the Americans to come and fight for them, this is what Biden says! And in order not to fight for anyone else, he is ready to endure a historic and humiliating defeat in Afghanistan! When we talk about Lebanon or whatever, in comparison, it is only an (insignificant) detail (in the eyes of the Americans).
At least 40 people have died since Monday in a stampede and shooting in Kabul International Airport, TOLOnews TV channel reported – citing a Taliban commander who is inside the airport.
According to him, the people died after “foreign troops opened fire” as well as a stampede— ASB News / MILITARY〽️ (@ASBMilitary) August 17, 2021
In conclusion, in what is happening in Afghanistan, are very big and very important lessons, and we must take advantage of them and act accordingly, at the cultural, ideological & emotional levels, at the level of our choices, of our hopes, of our our reading (of events), of our alliances, of our infrastructure, at the economic, political, military, security levels, etc. This was my conclusion during my last speech, when I said that we must only rely on God and on ourselves! We must not wait for the United States, nor their training, nor their advice, nor their support, nor their false promises, nor their plots! We do not want their good nor their evil. Of course no good can come from them. The good resides in our people, in our (Arab-Muslim) Community, in our region, in the Arab-Muslim peoples. It is on them that we must rely. Because we have all these possibilities and capacities.
This is so sweet.
The Iranian interpreter got emotional when Sayyed Nasrullah said Iran never abandones its allies, biggest evidence being the dismembered hand of martyr Qassem Soleimani in Iraq where he was assassinated beside his ally and friend Abu Mahdi Al Muhandis❤ https://t.co/m1nRrXbkkA— Marwa Osman || د. مروة عثمان (@Marwa__Osman) August 20, 2021
I am done on this subject. I will meet you tomorrow, for the 10th night (of the month of Muharram, the eve of the martyrdom of Imam Hussein), the night of the last meeting, and of the big fare well.
Peace be upon you, O my master Aba ‘Abdillah al-Hussein, and on the souls who dwell in your court! On you, from me, the Peace of God, forever, as long as I exist and as long as night and day last! May God not make this the last time I am visiting you! Peace be upon Hussein, upon ‘Ali son of Hussein, upon the children of Hussein and upon the companions of Hussein!
Peace be upon you, as well as the Mercy of God and His blessings.
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The above is a continuation of a previous and earlier speech by Hezbollah Secretary General Sayed Hassan Nasrallah on August 15, 2021, on the occasion of the commemoration of the 7th night of Ashura.
This earlier speech contains more background and can be found at the link given above: https://resistancenews.org/2021/08/22/nasrallah-afghanistan-is-worst-debacle-in-us-history-biden-hopes-for-civil-war/
If we make parallel of historic events, what will follow now could be either a Vietnam scenario or a Yugoslavia or Korean scenario. First would mean recovery but will last decades, still not fully recovered into the present. The second one would mean the breakup, with possible union of Tadjik and Uzbek aereas to the respective central asian republics and some areas with Pakistan. The last scenario could mean the split up into a taliban controlled Afghanistan and a ‘western’ Afghanistan.
Of course there could be an unprecedented scenario as well. Considering the economic, political and religious aspects differ significantly to Yugoslavia, Vietnam or Korea.
In all three previous scenarios US was at the peak of its power. Russia and China was … not.
Today, US is spiraling into event horizon of historical black hole. Russia and China are allies in transition from fortifying defense to increasingly projecting power. Those “projections” reach far into the western hemisphere (Venezuela).
This is reality that will shape fate of Afghanistan and beyond.
I hope so- Afghanistan will face a bright future if it allies with Russia and China. The belt and road initiative will boost the Afghani economy
How to shame a country you hate:
Fall of Saigon — Sec of State: Henry Kissinger – Jewish
Fall of Kabul — Sec of State: Tony Blinken – Jewish
“This is what we do to countries that we hate. We destroy them very slowly and make them suffer…” – Benjamin Netanyahu, Jewish Prime Minister of Apartheid Israel.
https://dl.minevisam.com/storage/2020/01/05/x-N9yl2ah4B5/file/full_7446b143-5e1e-4ae7-97b6-8a46c0bf00d4-permlink.jpg — Behold, the hand of Qasem Soleimani, still at work.
Bernard Levy, and the Jews, leading a resistance movement: resistance to peace and order, and sanity.
And Syrian girl was compromised long ago. She is worthless as a source of information.
I categorically disagree with this statement on Syrian girl. Just thought I’d say so.
And leave her Twitter stream here, as support.
https://twitter.com/partisangirl
Last year, during the Nagorno-Karabakh war, Partisangirl, a pro-Assad figure on Twitter, who was previously very pro-Iranian, was accusing the Iranians of being complicit with the Russians in “betraying” the Armenians, and that the only real friend Armenia has, is Syria.
This, in spite of the fact that Syria would be nothing without Iran, and it is Iran that is running the show in Syria, and Assad answers directly to the Sepah, not to Putin or anyone else.
Partisangirl is either an idiot, or she does not get her information from sources friendly to the Resistance, or both.
Well, I still disagree categorially but now also with the information that you present. But we’ll be going off-topic. The woman has done wonderful work on various levels. To describe her as “a pro-Assad figure on Twitter”, clearly shows right there that you do not know her work. There was one good video from her and a Syrian-Armenian journalist, if I remember correctly, that would put in perspective the bigger picture here and just exactly what was said about Iran and about Russia. Also, go and pick up a few of her interviews with George Galloway. It is not the work of an idiot.
You are right, I don’t know her work. The tweet in question is the only thing I ever read from her, and I remember it clearly, and it made up my mind about her.
If you speak out against Iran, especially as a Syrian, you cannot be a friend of Iranians and the Resistance Axis.
Anonymous, you always give us good intelligence and comments. But this time you’re going to have to show me that tweet, because I’ll go to the mat on this one. https://twitter.com/search-advanced?lang=en
And yes we may critique Iran, otherwise we are just the same as the Zionists.
The search function reveals the dubious result that Partisangirl has never made a tweet containing the word “Armenia”.
But I did find the following, thanks to your encouragement:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1394166272833638400
@Partisangirl: Iran has chemical weapons — May 17, 2021
Meanwhile,
https://www.voanews.com/middle-east/voa-news-iran/us-iran-developing-chemical-weapons-violation-global-treaty
US: Iran Developing Chemical Weapons in Violation of Global Treaty
If this kind of thing is your idea of ‘critique’, then what would you consider baseless and vicious slander?
The tweet – you leave out the context again.
Go and find the full conversation and it is difficult because it is a criticism of her video that Israel is equal to ISIS and one of those accounts has been canceled. But it is there – enough to figure out what happened.
In fact, she was defending Iran’s ability in the context of the conversation. And yes, to my knowledge I have not heard her speak much about Iran.
So far, you are not able to defend your words which were: “Partisangirl is either an idiot, or she does not get her information from sources friendly to the Resistance, or both.”
Perhaps it is time that we stop shooting our own in this kind of irresponsible manner. Because you do not know the work, you make extreme judgments (in this case, a tweet that evidently does not exist) that simply are not accurate.
She might be your own, but she is not mine.
Partisangirl’s claim that Iran has chemical weapons, is like claims made by some that Iran brought down a certain PanAm flight in an act of terrorism.
I take such slanderous accusations very personally.
And I guess the final word on what’s-her-name will just have to be: let’s wait and see what we see.
Anon, I warned you that I’ll go to the mat on this one. The issue is your ease of slandering people that do their side of the resistance to hegemony best they know how, and with good information, for many years consistently and mostly excellently despite various and frequent bannings, resistance and wiping out older work as the message is not appreciated by the hegemon.
I don’t adopt anyone as the arbiter of truth as you so say here. Nobody is my own. And, I have waited and seen. That is the issue for me here as you clearly have not – waited and seen.
As for the rest, I take your generally good input the same as I take Syrian Girl’s input. With a grain of salt. So, I am done here as my objective was simply to stand against the slandering of a very good voice in the resistance media. I think I have done that.
“Iran has chemical weapons” is your idea of good information? And a defense of Iran, at that?
Look, I couldn’t find the original comment of hers which prompted all this, but in a matter of minutes, I found an equally preposterous and eyebrow raising comment.
Your justification for such a comment from her, does not justify or explain the comment at all. Do you want to give it another go?
It seems to me that you have a personal liking for this person, and that is why you are defending her, not because she “has good information”, and I said she is not a good source of information.
Look, amarynth, here’s something for you to take with a grain of salt: the IRIB (Iranian state media) is completely compromised, with a bunch of fully westernized neoliberal-minded incompetent idiots running it.
I stand by what I said, Partisangirl is compromised, and her information is worthless.
If you want, we can really dig into her, get a whole bunch of her comments and posts and categorise and analyze the underlying currents and themes in her head.
“If you speak out against Iran, especially as a Syrian, you cannot be a friend of Iranians and the Resistance Axis”
This is illogical.
Look at the person as a whole and at their track-record, not at an isolated incident. Perhaps they were being emotional or just plain wrong on this day?
As long as it is done constructively and with good will (and respectfully with certain cultures and audiences) one can criticize even one’s own family members, never mind a neighbor or regional/distant land. And that other land has interests which occasionally conflict with its friends’ interests.
To speak out, rather than building an internal toxic and perhaps misguided complex about others, is usually a healthy response. It can promote dialogue which deconflicts and actually strengthens bonds, rather than affording mutual enemies an opening to split apart natural allies.
Regards
How was Syrian girl “compromised”?
I was very impressed with her in her vids.
I think I watched two or three.
If we make parallel of historic events, what will follow now could be an Iranian scenario or a Syrian scenario or a Russian scenario or a Chinese scenario, or at the very least a Lebanese scenario: Rebirth of a nation and resurgence of honour from the depths of oppression and despair.
WikiLeaks – US imperialists were seeking Russian assistance to manage chaos in Afghanistan!
https://t.co/aSWHAuJTzP?amp=1
One more article about our involvement in Afghanistan that dances around the simple reality that Israel attacked the USA on 9/11 and got away with it. As a nation, we will never come to terms with the post-9/11 world until we acknowledge that. The “hunt for bin Laden”, the so-called war on “terror”, the notion that we were in Afghanistan to bring “democracy” to the Afghans… all lies.
When Biden finally pulled the plug on this horrible war crime, there was no way it could ever be made right except by some kind of an international tribunal that would bring these war criminals to justice. Sadly, this will never happen in this world. It most certainly will happen in the next.
“the simple reality that Israel attacked the USA on 9/11 and got away with it.”
When I read an article that fails to acknowledge this obvious fact, I usually stop reading. I realise that the writer is a liar. He is either an idiot, a coward or being blackmailed.
In Biden’s case it’s most likely that early on he was shown the unedited version of the Zapruder film and was left to draw his own conclusions about what to say and what not to say about 9/11.
Quite more than that, Tommy. Biden, a US Senator at the time and a trusted career sycophant of sterling repute, was almost certainly read in on the plan either before it was hatched or shortly thereafter, and was just fine with it. No need for threats with this guy, he’s been “in the bag” since he entered politics.
Every American president since 2001 has chosen to keep his mouth shut about how Israel attacked the USA on 9/11 and got away with it. This includes both Biden and Trump. Certainly, Biden is beholden to AIPAC just as Trump is beholden to Likud and his crazy Christian Zionist base. To claim that one was more “in the bag” than the other doesn’t diminish the culpability of both for shielding these Zionist fiends from the justice they richly deserve.
Secretary Nasrallah delivered another tremendous speech that articulated the key points of the failure of Washington, DC’s political hubris in Afghanistan and the U.S. Military’s inability to achieve its goal of regional domination. Nasrallah humbles himself before God (Allah) in nearly all his impressive oratory work. He also speaks of compassion for the innocent who suffer at the hand of incompetent and self-serving leaders of nations.
What Christian or Jewish politicians do that? None! They are incapable of giving deference to the omnipotent power of our Father in Heaven. To be a great inspirer of men requires an unpretentious persona wrapped around the wisdom of cogent and spiritual thought.
We Christians must remind ourselves often that we are but a malleable work of the Lord who blesses us with his grace when we give our love to him and also fear his wrath. All the great and holy prophets such as Jesus Christ and Muhammad (PBUH) exemplified that.
We must not allow Mammon to swallow up our souls for baubles and trifles. It is but a short life we live below the firmament; a test of our faith. We have to rise above Satan’s dominance if we are to be permitted by Christ on Judgement Day to enter his Father’s house.
“For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son” (John: 5-22, KJV 1611)
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.” (John: 5-25, KJV 1611)
“And there is none among the People of the Book but will believe in it before his death; and on the Day of Resurrection, he (Jesus) shall be a witness against them.” (AN-NISA’ 4:160 Holy Quran)
“We Christians must remind ourselves… ”
You don’t sound like a Christian? More like a muslim… two different things.
And how does a “Christian” sound? Does he not seek spiritual knowledge from all who worship the Father in earnest?
I am a Christian, but I respect the scripture of the Holy Quran; a beautiful testament to the love of God the Father as presented to Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) by Jibril (Gabriel) the archangel.
Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior, is revered as one of the greatest prophets in the Quran, born of a virgin birth, messenger of God, Messiah of the Jews, worker of miracles, and the final arbiter on Judgement Day.
Compare the blessings written in the 114 Surahs (chapters) and over 6,200 Ayahs (verses) of the Holy Quran to the falsity of the Jewish Talmud and you will clearly know the difference between the lamp of light that guides a Muslim down the correct path and the dark power of the Kabbalah hidden inside Rabbinical teachings.
Can you explain why you think Muslims and Christians are two different things, beyond white and brown being two different colors? (Even though Jesus was a brown guy, a close genetic relative of Mohamed through Abraham, and part of the same cultural lineage, and what’s more, talking to the same Angels and bringing messages from the same God.)
It is like saying Khomeini and Khamenei are two different things.
I will say only one thing, because nobody wants a religious war of words here – you understand how easily this kind of a conversation will slip into it.
In essence Jesus freed people from religious law – jewish law of his time. That’s one reason why many jews hated him – and still hate. In general it’s clear that this is not only about Judaism or Sharia law – which is in my opinion close to Torah – in fact some Christian churches has been built from the start on the basis of a religious law, only in a thinly veiled mode.
The law should be in your heart, the Bible says that the “word should turn into a flesh”. Otherwise you will be a blind follower of religious authorities – whom in turn usually follow political trends of their respective countries. My country, Finland, is a truly sad example of this.
I think that what I wrote above is not acceptable to muslims – there are also some other differences, and these differences are fundamental. So that’s why I think that Islam don’t follow the teachings of Jesus. What comes to Christianity, it’s largely disappeared from the West … West is in fact anti-Christian, even satanic.
From that point of a view is useless to talk about the genes – even though my genes could be closer to Jesus than Mohammeds; once I read a study about the genes of the Finns, and that study claimed that our genes are close to Jews.
But this is not about genes, brown, black, yellow or white – it’s the heart that matters.
I will listen your response, but possibly there’s no use to continue this?
“I think that what I wrote above is not acceptable to muslims – there are also some other differences, and these differences are fundamental.”
First of all, I should say that I am not a Muslim, nor a Christian.
With that said, would you like to elaborate on what these fundamental differences are, as you see them?
Well… core belief of Christianity is that Jesus is the son of God, and God gave him power to forgive sins.
Once, decades ago, I met a Muslim and asked him can Mohammed forgive sins? He got astonished: “No, absolutely not! Only God can forgive sins.”
Believe it or not, I’ve personally experienced his power, and because of that I know that those who deny it don’t know what they talking about.
I can add to this that in my youth I was deeply involved in occult, drugs, alcohol etc. I was walking zombie at the age of 25.
The whole idea that godhead would reincarnate is alien to Islam, I think. In that sense Hinduism is closer to Christianity – if we examine issue from the religious studies point of the view.
That said, I’m fully aware about huge differences between Hinduism and Christianity – even though if you read Veda scriptures, there’s some teachings that could’ve come from the Jesus.
All in all, in reality Islam has much more in common with Judaism than Christianity.
Your wrote, “All in all, in reality Islam has much more in common with Judaism than Christianity.”
Seriously? Islam teaches that Christ was the Messiah of the Jews.
“˹Remember˺ when the angels proclaimed, “O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a Word1 from Him, his name will be the Messiah,2 Jesus, son of Mary; honoured in this world and the Hereafter, and he will be one of those nearest ˹to Allah˺.” (ALI IMRAN 3:45 Holy Quran)
What does the Talmud teach about Christ?
I didn’t speak about the Talmud, I spoke about the Torah, which is more relevant in this context. Talmud hasn’t much to do with Torah – it’s a sort of a perversion of Torah. It originates from Babylonia, from the times of Babylonian captivity – in those times pharisees established talmudic schools to Babylonia, probably trying to preserve the identity of the Jews.
But if you study Talmudic teachings, you will notice that it differs much from Torah, in my opinion because of the strong influence of Babylonian mystery traditions.
After tribes of Israel were freed by Persian king Cyrus the Great, only some of them returned to the land of Israel – and most of the tribes disappeared from the map.
You could argue that the influence of Babylonian semi-gods spread to the world through those tribes, still keeping Talmudic tradition as an essential part of their identity. I think that centuries later freemasonry was based on this same tradition – essentially Babylonian, not Jewish tradition.
What comes to Talmudic teachings about Jesus, I will say that Talmudic jews and masons see Jesus as their enemy. If some wonder how it’s possible that Talmud mentions Jesus – as it originates centuries BC – it’s because Talmud is actually not a book. It’s a collection of thousands of writings about Talmudic tradition over the centuries – it’s still essential for the identity of the Jews; and because correct understanding of teachings of Jesus will destroy that identity as it is – Jews do everything to pervert his teachings.
If Muslims believe that Jesus is incarnated son of God and also their messiah – then I have no argument against it.
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Off topic.
Please take any further discussion on this subject to the MFC.
-Thanx Mod.
Absolutely right: ==> “..we must only rely on God and on ourselves! We must not wait for the United States, nor their training, nor their advice, nor their support, nor their false promises, nor their plots! We do not want their good nor their evil. Of course no good can come from them. The good resides in our people..”
Ahmad Masoud has announced that he wants to make peace with the Taliban, and form an inclusive government.
The boy “Champion of Afghanistan” has had a change of heart, it seems.
It may just be a matter of time when we get to see a U.S. military helecoptor hovering over the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem with US diplomats and Israelies hanging off it trying to get out.
To The Saker
Lebanon better figure out who they are fighting in America. Have you seen Joe Bobs speech. This is Lord of the Rings. You got the King of Rohan with his trusty adviser wormtounge, crooked mask and all standing right behind him. You better pray for Frodo.
“You got the King of Rohan with his trusty adviser wormtounge… ”
Wow! What a comparison! Don’t your western/northern soul love that scenery of Rohan – even though it was filmed in NZ:)
But Biden as a King of Rohan is not so farfetched as it looks like, at first sight.
America MUST tear down that neoliberal cobweb from her head and shoulders – and find her true western identity – and join to fight for justice and all the things that are good, for all nations on earth.
BTW, I read from some article that Taliban is popular in the Afghan villages because they have a sort of a judicial system there – and because they are not corrupted, villagers turn to them to get justice for their cause. Otherwise they would’ve bribe officials of Afghan government, and since they don’t have enough money, they must turn to Taliban.
If true, then Taliban is exemplary, and in this sense something to follow here in the totally corrupted West; where corruption is “too big to fail”, in other words: integral part of the system.
But, if Biden is King of Rohan, then, who’s Saruman?
This is the edited version of the “video Selfie” taken by one of the wheel riding Afghans on the US Air Force plane numbered 1109 (911).
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1427608314276302865
As someone on this site said a fews days ago – the riders were dupped into climbing onto the undercarrige whilst the plane was travelling at walking pace. At 15 – 25 seconds you can see a few riders jump off as they realised that something was wrong.
These kids weren’t “escaping” they were welcoming a plane they thought had arrived – not desperately clinging to one about to take off. They are clearly well dressed, westernised young men with video equipped cell phones who would know what would happen to anything clinging to a jet doing 400+mph at 30,000ft.
As others have said, they were told to go welcome the plane, and boys being boys all over the world some jumped on for extra boasting points.
The younger riders were the ones who didnt jump off and were then trapped on the undercarriage by the speed of the plane – when jumping off at 100mph would be no differnt to jumping out of a train at 100mph. Perhaps they hoped that the pilot aborts the take off (he likely knew there were riders because there is also an audio clip somewhere of him talking with the control tower who would have told him).
I am not talking rubbish, I have done stupid stuff like that as a young man, including riding on the roof of a cab of a truck “Mad Max” style, eventually leaning down and tapping on the screen for the driver to stop. Young people do stupid stuff – I believe that is what these young people did, something stupid that they were goaded into doing, not an act of desperation to leave (western propaganda).
Ahmad Masoud is servant of the Jewish mafia and Bernard Henry Levy where should be alarming. His father was CIA agent. The Jewish mafia is using Ahmad Masoud to start civil war in Afghanistan to make Iranian border unstable and bring Chaos to both countries which is desired for Israel.
Bernard Henri Levy a zionist war criminal who is seeking partition of Iran is manipulating naive Ahamad Masoud, a Tajik. BHL was involved in partition of Iraq, Sudan and Libya and tried hard to do the same in Syria. Bernard Henri Levi, a war criminal, is trying to create ‘kurdistand’ where he takes it into his grave so Netanyaho and Naphthalen.
The Mafia spreads Fake stories about groups who are living on ‘resources like oil, gas, diamond, gold’ and so on and so forth, in order to bring the resources under their control.
The jewish mafia, for sure, is praying for a civil war in Afghanistan. Israel is spying on Iran from ‘Azarbijan’ border and now seeking to do the same from Afghanistan. The terrorist kurds are spying for Israel since 1950s.
Everyone said: BHL the zionist terrorist is responsible for thousands of deaths. He was involved in every single partition of countries like Sudan, Libya and Iraq. He should be arrested and put on trial and executed. The zionists in Israel are so desperate that openly are talking and writing about attacking Iran for ‘regime change’ in order to partition the country. We say shut up and fuck off. If you want to fight then do it alone, no one will help an apartheid entity, then we will see that you go into your graves in no time. Otherwise shut up and get lost.
FDD openly calling for a military attack on Iran, so Israel. Israel is sitting on 300 bombs where has not signed NPT or allow anyone to come and inspect. Iran as NPT signatory has every single right to enrich and should be helped by other countries, yet Iran is under full sanctions for the last 42 years and under millitary attack. What kind of world is this?
No one wants this kind of world where the Jewish mafia makes the rules. The world wants Israel sanctioned to bring peace on earth. Iran repeatedly offered a middle East free of nuclear weapons but Israel and its servants in Washington pushed it under the rug, instead, they come after Iran legal nuclear program making Fake stories, staging 9/11 (US +Israel) and killing millions of people using fake ‘war on terror’ while the terror comes from Israel, US and its colonies in Europe.
Iran is going to be a member of Shanghai soon, that’s why Naphthalene is so worried and desperate that asking zionist Biden to act now because tomorrow is too late.
Well, we will see who is going to be dismantled soon idiots. The world population is fed up with you and wants you to get out of the Middle east. New York is a jewish state, Ukraine is a jewish state, Argentina is almost a jewish state. How many ‘jewish states’ do you want?
Perhaps it is too soon to judge the young Ahmad Masoud. Let us wait and see what he does in the coming days.
Ahmad Shah Masoud was assassinated on September 9, 2001, right before the NATO invasion of Afghanistan, by the CIA’s pawns. Why do you say he was a CIA agent?
Since when CIA does not assassinate its own agent if it is its own interest at the time. Do you trust CIA?!
That is not the answer to my question. What evidence do you have to back up this claim, that the late Ahmad Shah Masoud was a CIA agent?
Excellent article by Sundance explaining the warfare between US State dept Pentagon White House and those lurking in Shadows like Team Obama.
Really worth the read.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/21/the-eagles-stare-pentagon-unaware-of-state-department-security-alert-telling-americans-not-to-come-to-kabul-airport/
israel bombed palestine again. im still waiting for hezbollah promise to retaliate.
You are close to the truth, imo.
Just look at the similarity between the old British East India Company flag(s) and the USA’s flag.
Then add the public health and other policy that looks more like a human resource function than a civic role/service.
As an old timer ceo once said to me: “You are either crew, or cargo.”
The “America” that has won the 20-year Afghan war is the military industrial complex — the shareholders, workers and state/federal political class that feeds it all back in on itself.
The rest are largely supernumerary except as fattened sacrificial consumers chasing some illusory dreams off-payroll.
“They successes 100% in Afghanistan. Pretty good results from USA”s point of view.”
Of course they did, and they are 100% succeeding in Yemen and Iraq as well. In fact, everything seems to be going the US’ way these days, all over the world.
The US is 100% on the rise.
Would you care to explain how this was a win from the USA’s point of view? How were the American nation and people enriched by this?
Perhaps you are confusing transnational corporations, the MIC, and Israel with the USA?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/One-belt-one-road.svg/1200px-One-belt-one-road.svg.png
And what does the BRI have to do with Afghanistan?
In any case, was it a draw, or was it 100% success?
Sayed Hassan Nasrallah informs us of the horror of the realities of western values.
May I add that at the beginning of April 1994 in Rwanda the French operation Amaryllis and the Belgian Silverback did the same thing. They evacuated the domestic animals of the development workers and delivered the Tutsis to the killers. At the technical school in Kicukiro 2,000 people were massacred.
Of course I am not suggesting that the Taliban’s intentions are genocidal. They are liberating their country. The butchers who collaborated in the bloody repressions with the CIA/gestapo are not comfortable.
The parallel I see between the panic in Afghanistan and the panic in Rwanda in early April 1994 is that both are psychological warfare engineering by the West to cover a hidden agenda. In Rwanda the genocide and in Afghanistan an attempt to start a new civil war. The genocide was a success. I can only pray that the Taliban, with the help of their neighbor, will defeat this insane plan.
The forces of chaos act in the shadows via unmotivated auxiliaries. The Taliban are at home. They are motivated and effective. To start a new civil war, the Anglo-Zionists need a large number of auxiliaries and a secure rear base.
Only Turkmenistan does not belong to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. I think that via the SCO Russia and China will succeed in offering Afghanistan the conditions for its pacification. I am full of hope. Peace in Afghanistan will provide the material means for the SCO to defeat the Empire of Chaos definitively.
Just reading over the web on some US citizens thoughts on Afghanistan, now they want to arm Massod the Fool to continue the quagmire. Sore losers the lot.
Cheers
The soldiers couldn’t do jumping jacks?
WTF?
I’m sorry, but I can’t tell from the title: civil war in Afghanistan or in America? 😉