2016/06/21 10:00:01
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This is why they have nothing to do with Islam nor any religious or human feeling of respect :
“UN condemns attack on the shrine of Sayyida Zeinab in Damascus”:
http://spanish.almanar.com.lb/adetails.php?fromval=1&cid=30&frid=30&eid=130645
“Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Monday condemned a terrorist attack claimed by the ISIS with at least 20 dead in Damascus, Syria.
In a statement, the diplomat conveyed its condolences to the families of the victims and the Syrian government, and demanded the accountability of those responsible for the sabotage executed near the mausoleum of Sayeda Zeinab, where the remains of the granddaughter of the Prophet Muhammad rest.
According to various sources, Sunni extremist used a car bomb and suicide bombers in the attack this past Saturday, which also left dozens of injured.
Ban called disgusting the new ISIS violent action, which since 2014 is plaguing the Levantine country.
Syria insists that only with a fight without double standards against terrorism and the cessation of foreign support for it, will advance efforts to stop the conflict that has been living the nation in the Middle East over the past six years.”
“Hezbollah sends large number of fighters to break siege of Deir ez-Zor”
http://spanish.almanar.com.lb/adetails.php?eid=131151&cid=23&fromval=1&frid=23&seccatid=67&s1=1
“The Lebanese resistance movement Hezbollah has sent a large number of experienced fighters to the province of Deir ez-Zor to help Syrian Army troops and its popular allies to end the siege of the city, provincial sources said.
“Hezbollah has sent its first group of elite fighters to the military airport of the province of Deir ez-Zor”, said several sources.
“104th and 137th brigades of the Syrian Army have suffered a siege by the IE in Deir ez-Zor for more than a year.
However, “the situation could change in the coming weeks when Hezbollah will mobilize its elite units to help protect the provincial capital of Deir ez-Zor and release several areas that are held by the EI” they said.
Earlier this week, Syrian troops attacked the IE assembly centers in the southwest and southeast parts of the city of Deir ez-Zor, inflicting heavy losses on the terrorists.
IE positions on the southwest side, near the towns of Al Murayeh and its field, and in the southeast, near Huwiyat al Murayeh were massively attacked by the Syrian Army.
The IE suffered a high rate of death and bomb vehicles were destroyed in the attacks.
According to the site Debka.com, Palestinian forces are accompaining Hezbollah and this is the first time these forces enter battle with IE. This Palestinian unity is called Al Jalil Forces and has been trained by Syrian and Iranian military officials.
The Israeli site claims that Hezbollah’s mission is to rid the province of Deir ez-Zor from the presence of IE and specifically the Euphrates Valley, which connects eastern Syria and western Iraq.
This offensive of Hezbollah also wil serve to support the advancement of the Iraqi Army and its allies from Hashid al Shaabi in the Iraqi province of Anbar, where Fallujah is located.
Some claim that another objective of Hezbollah is the city of Sujnah, located 63 km south of Palmira and 136 kms north of Deir ez-Zor. The take over of this town would give Hezbollah control of the M-20, the main highway connecting the north and east of Syria”.
Ideal “love” has become an obsession in the Western world. In almost all modern popular music, the theme is that of this love. With this lust created in the male psyche, advertisers have made use of the frailty by exploiting the female form to sell nearly every product targeting them as a market. Then, trying to live up to this ideal, women then become victims of the diet and fashion industry, who rake in billions from women who have become obsessed with “body consciousness” and “looking young”.
However, as Denis de Rougemont has pointed out, in Love in the Western World, romance and the tradition of love as a theme in poetry and music, was originally derived from the Sufi mystics of Islam. Sufi musical jesters and ariakeens (harlequins), dressed in patchwork costumes, the khirqah of the Sufis, originally made from shreds and patches, traveled on foot from city to city, teaching songs and cryptic words.
In the love poetry of the Sufis, sometimes God is addressed directly, but often the deity is personified by a woman. This tradition derives from the Kabbalah, whose sacred text is the Song of Solomon, a collection of love poems spoken alternately by a man and a woman, and a number of which describe the beauty and excellence of the “beloved”.
The Song of Songs, however, represents the paganising influences of the Kabbalah, it being an ode to the goddess, here represented as the “bride of god”. Ultimately, she is the Babylonian Lilith, a black goddess. “I am black, but I am beautiful”, she sings. Her influence explains the presence of numerous images of the black goddess found throughout Western Europe, as profiled by Ean Begg in the Cult of the Black Virgin.
Worship of the goddess is a guise for the worship of Lucifer. In ancient times, the goddess was identified with Venus, a planet also known as Lucifer. Because she was at the same time the mother, sister and bride of the Sun-god, both were often identified as dual versions of a single androgynous god. Therefore, in the occult tradition, which sought “union” with the god through magical means, the quest could often be cryptically described as that of the “love” of a woman, to describe “love” for the goddess.
It was the goddess worship of the Sufis, expressed in the form of love poetry dedicated to ladies, and a deference towards women, which became known in Europe as the art of chivalry. As de Rougemont indicates, many of the troubadours were Cathars, a fractious group of Christians of Southern France, that resurrected the Gnostic tradition. Through them, the tradition transpired to the Templars, and to the Legends of the Grail.
Having first been appropriated by these early occult organizations, it continues the dominate the strategy of their modern inheritors, suffusing much of rock-and-roll music as a theme, and therefore, much of modern culture.
According to Sigmund Freud, we do everything for sex. However, the truth is that human beings have free-will. Though, unfortunately, for the large portion of humanity, sex does seem to be their primary motive. The problem is that man must learn to suppress his baser urges, so as to better serve God. That does not mean that sex is bad and he should refrain from it. Sex is a wonderful experience, but one that must be shared between a man and woman who have sworn to be faithful to one another.
Sex is bad when a man desires a woman purely for the physical enjoyment derived from her, without properly respecting the person. If he is not faithful with her, then he betrays and humiliates her. He will then have broken a sacred bond, possibly fractured a family, and when the building-block that is the family is fractured, then too is the society fractured.
That is precisely the reason why the Globalists have sought to undermine the human community by creating the obsession among us for “love”, that is, lust, by which they may dupe us into betraying any higher principles we might have had. For sex we build up riches, put up pretenses, steal, kill, and so on. And when we will have so debauched everything we have built, then will the conspirators hail themselves as our saviours.
Excellent comment, Anon. I dropped my Anon surname, so I assure guests this is a different Cafe visitor.
Dennis and I (and others) have been working on this issue and you have come forward with a new perspective (here, at least, no matter if you have sources….) that I wholeheartedly welcome.
One of the toughest issues with even examining the Goddess archetype is the modern predilection for anticipation of “a nude centerfold” which it definitely is not, in my positive conception of the allegorical archetype.
However, your evidence on the Sufi tradition use of the lust inducing form suggests that the problem goes way,way earlier than Hugh Hefner.
I am clear that there is no human teaching of any kind that does not have its dark side or its perversion, that the search for truth is much like picking ones way through a heavily mined battlefield. Yet, I am convinced the only two deadly errors in that endeavor are 1) Never trying to cross that mine field and 2) stopping, not going all the way.
Eros may be required for the perpetuation of the species, but it is clearly not the highest form of Love, and if not accompanied by the higher forms, can all too often be a detriment or detour, a land mine in itself, allegorically speaking.
“Eros may be required for the perpetuation of the species, but it is clearly not the highest form of Love, and if not accompanied by the higher forms, can all too often be a detriment or detour, a land mine in itself, allegorically speaking.”
Fully d’accord, in my old days I realized: your anima is not the one to be f*cked
Song of Songs was way before Kabbalah and the lines, ” I am dark but beautiful” may very well have another interpretation. Remember that this is happening in a vineyard i.e. outside . Beauty and status in women were indicated by a fair-er skin ( if you note Egyptian very formalist depictions of women ) because they were inside and not doing the manual labor of the fields and their skin being darkened by the sun.
Otherwise, well said. @ Dennis: As for birth control: in the ancient times, women knew all the herbs necessary to prevent or terminate births which was especially important for group survival and the survival of the existing children in times of food scarcity. There is no need to over glorify perhaps a more simple and sane time in human society.
Sex/love has just become one more consumer commodity and as such, an obsession for many people.
“Sex is bad when a man desires a woman purely for the physical enjoyment” – but man is bad – but worse, if not bad enough to compensate his goodness.
RT totally sells out on coverage of the Mateen/Orlando story. They take a MSM line on it rather than demanding that we actually hear Mateen’s 9/ll call rather than having to take a redacted transcript as “fact”.
Do your job of critical thinking, RT: Question more, especially on this one. Mateen was well known to the FBI , he had access to guns galore in his job as a private security guard, he did the haj, he had a history of domestic violence so at least question the competence of the FBI. That he was some wide eyed radical suits their cover story so why let them off easy on this one? At least question the weakness of their story.
And who are these alleged “eye witnesses?” If they heard a ” him” make a call, then why can’t we hear the same 911 call? It is like the mysterious disappearance of the Kiev air controller’s tapes re MH17: how convenient!
In my view: Mateen=Oswald. Yes, a witness could have heard someone making a 911 call but whether that “someone” was Mateen might not hold up in court. Eyewitness accounts under stress and confusion are notoriously inaccurate—this is basic Criminal Justice 101.
And please, stop being the least attractive part of this wag the dog farce. the American media is, when you do not like what they are saying, co opted but , when they are not taking the official line which rarely happens, you slam them as “sensationalist”? Just like the political elites in the USA.
I agree. Very disappointing.
ALSO: It’s a new Cafe-Bar, It’s already night, it’s probably in France (crepes) and it’s not summer, so this outdoor shot should have been reserved for something other than the Summer Solstice.
This disregard for astrology and climactic accuracy is annoying, but it’s just a further straw further bowing an already sore back and foul temper. Then I read about RT being a bunch of gullible children. The good thing is it is energizing a rant that already began to build in the last Cafe. I’m sick and tired of people (RT….you too….) bouncing off the surface of things and refusing to go any deeper than their silly egoic prejudices, as evidenced by little egoic pot shots with no follow-up, even when politely invited to up the ante and put more precious ego at stake and into the common pot. Winner, Truth, take all!
So, the first thing I want to do is unleash Pope against myself, for I too am full of sh*t! There’s NOT going to be any paper this coming weekend on psychoanalyzing the NWO psychopaths and their self-loathing motives for torturing this planet. Why? I was too distracted and got into all the nonsense myself, there is hours and hours more of research to do, I have to have everything boxed and ready to move next week……in short: It ain’t gonna happen.
There are at least two or three more weeks of pretending, bouncing off the surface of things, procrastinating, inventing excuses, avoiding, etc. Ok, Ok, I stopped eating animal flesh this month, but Sunday I stopped in to a Wings place (no, not for wings OR beer….) for the 4th Quarter and watched LeBron win it for Cleveland. Hypocrisy worse than RT’s pathetic BS you rightly attack, T-13.
Where the rubber meets the road? I don’t mean basketballs bouncing on courts and backboards! I mean the souls of our feats settling the Cosmic Question! Which I assure you, is not “Will the Prodigal Son/Sun shine through the 50+ years of Cleveland sports gloom!!”
There’s a lot of wheels spinning in mid-air. I’ve got to do better. We’ve got to do better. The 7 plus billion “we” ? Faggeddabout it! 99.99% Pretenders to “intelligent life” !!
I turn the Critic/Poet upon us all:
“But you who seek to give and merit fame
And justly bear a Critic’s noble name,
Be sure yourself and your own reach to know,
How far your genius, taste and learning go;
Launch not beyond your depth, but be discreet,
And mark that point where sense and dullness meet.
Nature to all things fix’d the limits fit,
And wisely curb’d proud man’s pretending wit.
As on land where here the Ocean gains,
In other parts it leaves wide sandy plains;
Thus in the soul while memory prevails,
The solid pow’r of understanding fails;
Where beams of warm imagination play,
The memory’s soft figures melt away.
One science only will one genius fit;
So vast is art, so narrow human wit:
Not only bounded to peculiar arts,
But oft’ in those confin’d to single parts.
Like Kings we lose the conquests gain’d before,
By vain ambition still to make them more;
Each might his sev’ral province well command,
Would all but stoop to what they understand. Alexander Pope lines 46-67 out of 746
Essay on Criticism
Here, many sciences are in play, and since follow-through and rigor are sorely lacking (myself included!) I think we should mass produce the following sign
http://images.smartsign.com/img/sm/K/Slow-Children-At-Play-Sign-K-7665.gif
but with but with the words “Slow” and “Children” separated by only a one letter space, not a diagonal yellow square.
You cannot expect something that’s not desired.
RT is a bad joke. It is proof that teh 5th column has the upper hand in Russia.
The question remains why Putin isn’t changing this.
Maybe he doesn’y want …
RT is a waste of time.
Since their (lack of) DonBass coverage I avoid them.
Last exception was CrossTalk, but now that I know Californian Mr. Lavelle a bit better, I also don’t watch that anymore.
Only the Max Keiser Report is still worth a visit.
Sophie and co is good? better? at times
eg
https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/347415-brexit-germany-rightwing-party/
Yes, I should have included her.
I like her.
What about our german RT Cover girl Jasmin Kosubek?
;)
“jasmin Kosubek”
https://www.google.ru/search?q=%22jasmin+Kosubek%22&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC2oPo1rvNAhXDlCwKHd3SATEQ_AUICCgB&biw=1280&bih=851
DER FEHLENDE PART: To Brexit or not to Brexit? – Das ist hier die Frage [S2 – E83]
RT Deutsch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8U5xnchu_I
Martin
Did you noticed that meanwhile Russia has become another 6 months sanctions period ? As we spoke earlier. Russia eliminated in the EU football championship in a series of bad plays. More good news ?
What they said on Arte or euronews at 19h on 6-22 was that *the ambassadors* to the EU have decided (or found out by looking at the orders they brought with them) that the sanctions will last another 6 months „BUT (said the TV) the real decision will be taken only at the end of the month by the chiefs of gov‘ts at their meeting in Brussels“.
I am more or less ashamed to confess that an atavistic wave came up within me making me want to shout: „Hey, we are a democracy! Let‘s all write to our representatives that they must vote NO! When we all write, they cannot say no to us!“ What a childish impulse! Aren‘t there at least a dozen or so countries who are severely damaged every day by these sanctions and will not Western EU-Europe as a whole be severely damaged or destroyed by the war these lousey „pygmies“ – to quote c. Stalin – concoct with all these counterproductive insolences? Is not everybody not only allowed but obliged – at this point, by own insight, with or without letters by the Saker/Café Community – to resist these filthy war mongers, and most of all those at the top who by going along with these crimes make themselves underhumans, scum, and future war criminals? Why are everybody – including Orban & Co – such spineless cowards? Will Podemos win before the end of the month and will they have the guts to save us all?
bp
do not be ashamed…we need to have hope, no matter how insane that might seem, as for Podemos, they are shameless controlled dissidence, unfortunately, like Syriza. If we are to keep the hope, we need to make sure it sits on the right people, so far and luckily there is Putin
@ Martin:
“Yes, I should have included her [Sophie].
I like her [..]”
For once, my good comrade Martin, we disagree (well! We’re allowed to disagree, aren’t we? ;-) – it’s just a disagreement amongst friends anyway… no big deal in the end)
Her (Sophie & Co) format is boring.
While I do like that she allows for her guests to make their point at length without interruptions, there are two problems with that; 1- her guests are usually equally as boring as her show is (with a few notable exceptions, which right now I can’t even name besides the time when she interviewed Lavrov) 2- a lot of her guest have such a bad command of the English language, that by the time they made their point I’m half-asleep. Not to mention: I can’t even remember what the hell they were supposed to be talking about on the first place! 3- I don’t like her style of “interviewing,” pretending to be naive about the issues (the ruse shows Sophie, give it a rest), when it’s rather obvious where you were going with your question all along. Oh, and no amount of innocent fluttering of your eyelashes helps to win the audience either :/
-TL2Q
Wag the dog is approaching light speed ( thesaker.is/moveable-feast-cafe-2016-06-17/#comment-250738 )
Vegas; Just stopped in briefly to try to catch up. Spent a couple of minutes trying to make your link work. It would help if you make things a bit easier by making it a complete link that shows up in orange in your post. By the way, I watched the allegorical movie They Live, which you posted a few weeks ago.
Perfect analogy for me (the drifter) and members of my extended family. One or two are sort of like the black construction worker. The rest are like those trying to hide.
THEY LIVE: http://putlocker.plus/they-live-1988-full-movie-putlocker-megashare9.html
Thanks.
As today is June 21, tomorrow will be 75 years of the invasion of Soviet Union in June 22 1941. So here is something as a reminder of those days in June ’41 :
Marching Soldiers in ’41
Marching soldiers sing a song, on the dusty road to East,
They are happy, they are strong, they believe it will be feast.
Large columns of tanks and trucks, passing by the infantry,
Causing stress in midst of muck, for the the fun of peasantry.
Sing the song ! shouted the sergeant, angry and passionate,
For him every step is urgent, cause he’s just a marionette.
We will show now who’s the best, in the fight against the Russ,
See my medal on my breast ? asked the sergeant full of fuss.
Digging trenches in the forest, in the wormy days of June,
No time left to fit the nest, for the battle flares up soon.
Suddenly the sky was screaming, loud explosions on the field,
Nobody alive was leaving, and the sergeant has been killed…
Shells have destroyed the line, for the Death has left no time.
So felt men and uniform,
Medal on his chest, a worm…
They are happy, they are brave, they are resting in the grave.
Roads to Moscow. ( youtube.com/watch?v=N_ZG6tRGMYk )
Thanks for sharing
This is outstanding, ioan. Glad you shared it with us!
didn’t have the time to translate that seasoned post into english – will be done soon, but till then at least for the German readers:
http://mundanestagebuch.blogspot.de/2011/06/2261941-or-70-jahren-weltuntergang-am.html
Paul Craig Roberts.. My Several Million Readers Are Unable To Help Me Prove The Official Story
As not a single one of my several hundred thousand readers of this site plus the several million who read re-postings on other sites and translations abroad have been able to find a shred of evidence that corroborates the official story of the Orlando mass shooting, I close my attempt to prove the government’s case.
Only one of the victims has been interviewed.
Like Sandy Hook, no evidence but tragedy actors abound.
Like the Tsarnaevs – Omar Mateen connections to the CIA through his father.
Like Dody, where is the body?
– News footage shows no dead people, or even visibly injured people, no ambulances rushing to the scene, no colored triage tarps, no EMTs swarming the site, or anything else that might prove the “massacre” actually occurred as reported. A few “injured victims” are shown casually walked or carried away from the club, with one dumped into the back of a pickup for transport to the hospital. Such scenes were played over and over on television. As with the Sandy Hook “shooting,” we are supposed to believe the reports, despite the clear lack of evidence. (CNN)
– To make up for this lack, we have a parade of witnesses, sobbing without tears and giving unconvincing performances, as seen with many recent false flag events. These include Luis Burbano, who gave interviews to several media outlets soon after the Orlando “shooting.” Like Carlos Arredondo of Boston Marathon fame, Burbano became the face of courage under duress, reportedly removing his shirt to wrap it around a man’s arm and tying another piece of his clothing to a man’s leg.[5]
In his CNN interview, he said he put a “syringe” on the man’s arm – but then corrected this to say it was a tourniquet.[6] Like Arredondo, Burbano is an actor, with several films to his credit.[7]
Professional head shot of actor Luis Burbano, one of many available. Image: m.imdb.com.
– Interviews by assorted officials also sound scripted and strange. These include State Senator Geraldine Thompson, who tells us she is the senator for the district that includes the Pulse night club “in Tallahassee” – although Pulse is actually in Orlando. (CNN)
– Drills were involved, as with many false flag events (more on this subject is sure to come). Oddly, the June 13 online edition of the Orlando Sentinel highlighted an article originally published in 2015, regarding a drill to prepare nurses for mass casualties.[8]
– Also familiar are the online posts that precede the event, documented in Yahoo listings for articles about the Orlando “shooting” that are dated June 11, one day earlier.[10] This was the case for other false flag events, notably the Sandy Hook “shooting.”
In the URL below is an account that is likely overall correct. However, the author, in an attempt to marshall all possible evidence against the US government, inadvertantly buys into the government’s account, as so many skeptics do. The author says that Mateen, like Tsarnaev, “was known to the authorities, who let him proceed unfettered.”
By involving authorities as permissive accomplices, the author undermines the account that it was a false flag attack.
So many skeptics do this that it makes you wonder.
https://memoryholeblog.com/2016/06/14/orlando-nightclub-shooting-questions-and-anomalies-surround-worst-mass-shooting-in-u-s-history/
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Roberts’ latest books are The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West, How America Was Lost, and The Neoconservative Threat to World Order.
Also,Henry Makow is an absolute hoot to read concerning Orlando. ( henrymakow.ca/ )
Why the INjustice system in Europe makes me cry and whine:
It was a mistake that I ever opened the following link:
Ben Butler’s ex-girlfriend says he is ‘pure evil’ and reveals he beat her with a metal pole and was convicted of strangling her in 2005 as the brute is jailed for 23 years for killing his daughter Ellie, six
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3652262/Ben-Butler-s-ex-girlfriend-described-pure-evil-revealed-beat-metal-pole-convicted-strangling-2005.html
‘justice’ never seems to learn its lessons
hence ex UK criminals cannot be deported, and russian children drown in lake due to criminal neglect……
First comment. Places that used to allow dissenting comments on the web for the left have been banning improper thought since H. Clinton rolled up the primaries.
So-called freedom of speech is being curbed.
Second comment. Considering the Tsarnaevs and Mateen it appears that the biggest risk for becoming a mass murderer in the US is being related to someone in the CIA. A further reading of Peter Levenda’s many books will point out many other cases of this apparent condition. Like others, the FBI took Mateen off the watch list. The same happened with LH Oswald when he (actually, someone impersonating him) returned from Mexico City a month and a half before JFK’s assassination. Is this some kind of professional courtesy between the FBI and CIA, to let the “lone nuts” roam across America’s countryside.
Since H. Clinton’s victory the US has been preparing its citizenry for a war against Russia. Kerry said some more horsesh*t this morning. The diplomatic corps announcing they want another illegal war in Syria was another example. Defenders of H. Clinton’s foreign policy won’t admit it.
Finally, I suspect that both Clintons were recruited by the CIA around 1968 for the long game. Bill’s classmates in Britain suspected him of being CIA, and Hillary’s various iterations have her showing up in places where the FBI/CIA would have wanted a pair of ears. And Bill was governor in Arkansas in time to look away from the cocaine dumps in Mena. (Dubya’s first DEA chief, Asa Hutchinson, was the federal prosecutor in that neck of the woods when cocaine was moving through Arkansas.) In short, the Clintons have played a major part of moving the Democratic Party under the wings of Wall Street and Hillary in particular has made the Democrats the war party.
Speaking of H Clinton, I was just reading this interview with Germany’s FM, Steinmeier, (as I usually do!)
The interviewer asks, “Is Germany something like the Kremlin’s lawyer?”
He replies: “I don’t know what comparisons like that are supposed to achieve, to be honest. As we all know, the nature of the lawyer’s role is such that she is mandated to take her client’s side and represent his interests. Whom do deliberately discrediting characterisations like ” the Kremlin’s lawyer ” serve? The fact is we are no less critical of Russian policy than anyone else, be it in relation to the annexation of Crimea or the destabilisation of eastern Ukraine. But if we want to find solutions to other major conflicts, then we have to make sure we can still put our heads together. ”
Maybe it’s just me, but I found his response very telling – so much so that I wondered if he set up this particular question!
Rest of interview is here:
http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/EN/Infoservice/Presse/Interview/2016/160620-BM_Maerkische_Allgemeine.html
@ S113
“I find his response very telling”
What is your take on it? I read the whole interview and, taking into account what he said recently about NATO’s ‘warmongering”, come to thee conclusion that he’s a hawk as everyone else in that terrorist organisation. He said he favours gradual withdrawal of sanctions against Russia “as long as there is progress towards Minsk”! What a two-faced wimp! He knows very well who is dragging their feet to implement Minsk.
He also described the Russian military as “opposition” – just short of enemy – while German tanks join the US and Poles in wargames near Russia’s border? What a cheek!
As to the “warmongering” statement, it was not made as criticism of NATO’s actions and words; it was a nuanced expression of reproach against bombastic language only, not meaning.
Germany is perhaps the only country in EU with clout that could inject some sanity in the current drive for conflict against Russia but has sided with her occupier all the way into the Ukraine quagmire, sanctions and all, while masquerading as a well-meaning mediator.
Kim
Hi Kim, (great to hear from you again! It had been a while)
You are right, he does play both sides which makes it difficult to give a clear endorsement of him. I heard him described as a “cautious politician” by one analyst and I think that’s sums it up. He is political in his responses, instead of just outright stating the truth, and I know both JJ and Martin have expressed disgust/disapproval over that.
From what I’ve read and heard these are my conclusions:
The Baltic nations want to be victims of Russian aggression. That’s their thing. So Steinmeier has worked very carefully with them, and Poland, to move past this (eg. They get to feel like victims because Russia is big, scary, able to confront the US and lives right next door, but they can’t claim that Russia is actually a threat or aggressive. He seems to be steering in this direction.) I’ve wondered why Germany cares so much about the trouble these Baltic nations have landed in – but the German foreign ministry does.
About the hawk quality – I think Germany is preparing to militarily overthrow the junta in Kiev. And the German high command (who have some seriously high IQs!!) have been very sneaky in using NATO as a shield for their true intentions. Actually, they are masterful at becoming invisible, I think – a military person may comment more on that than me!
The sanctions against Russia appear to be about American leverage over European countries, at least over Germany. Nothing to do with Russia, just some leverage the US has over them that they can’t shake, until now maybe? Time will tell. So when Merkel says the sanctions will go as soon as the Minsk agreements are implemented, I think she means as soon as they overthrow the junta, the Chancellor will implement the Minsk agreements, and the sanctions will disappear. I guess the American leverage is the instability in eastern Europe, maybe?
Sorry, S113,
but you‘re completely mad – at least insofar as your fantasizing about a „good“ german military goes. The last german military action with a purpose and an adequate measure was the Prussian-French war of 1870/71 – what the hurrah patriots back in Berlin made with that victory (e.g. stealing Alsace-Lorraine) was already not at all what Bismarck had aimed at and achieved, it was much too much – the german coward was so overwhelmed by the victory constructed by Bismarck, that he wanted more and more. But also Alsace and Lorraine were not enough, so they wanted to dissect Russia in 1891 (plan of the Alldeutsche), they came near it in WWI, „but unfortunately lost the war“, then tried again, after data fetishist (their duftmarke) 50 years, in 1941, and again could feel like „moralische Sieger“, who „only“, very unfortunately, lost again the war that they had been soooo blooody sucessful in in so many details. What does all of this tell a german military führer? That he must try again, this time „aber richtig“, everything will be anticipated and prepared, as meticulously as „only we germans can“ – after which the next war „must“ be started because with such a preparation of such geniuses it „must“ be won, no other outcome is possible, a german victory is „alternativlos“. This is what Steinmeyer stands for as Kinkel before as Genscher before…
Please note, everybody, at long last that Germany is completely hopeless since decades, and this mostly because of the german military which made itself the master of Germany from after 1871 until today. Someone joked about the Kaiserreich that this was an army which had a state, but since then it is the imperial military police which owns the country, the institutions (inc, legislation and jurisdiction, of course, but also the finance dept which issues tax decision according to the wehrwillen – the readiness to fight for the reich – of the persons concerned, then also state and private enterprises) and the persons – all of them, those for and those against, and of course all the fearful, all the Ohnemichels, and all the resistants. No they are not legal owners of anything or anybody, but the factual owners of all brains and all wills and all guts and all machination machinery in the country. Part of them cooperates willingly and happily, another part „with mental reserves“ – how noble! – and the disagreeing rest gets found out in school already and gets barred from any kind of influence however meaningless it might be. These are the people that never forget and never forgive anybody anything – except themselves everything.
After WW I it was the german military who built up their distinguished member, Unteroffizier Hitler (who then also got money from Allan Dulles, the blessing of the Vatican, a maximum of a third of the votes of the electorate etc.), until he, with a little help from his military friends, was ready to „sock it to them“. The same did not happen again *after* WW II, but already while WW II was still on and went well for Hitler. „Nicht länger geheim“ (no longer secret), which appeared in the 1970s in the GDR, reported what nobody who did not read it may ever hear in our „completely changed, completely changed“ Germany: the author of the „Barbarossa plan“ (of conquering Russia/the Soviet Union), Gehlen, knew already early for sure that since the final victory did not happen after six weeks as planned, the whole war was already lost, and after the sad occupation regime after 1918 another sad occupation regime had to be expected. And to be counteracted. He started to plan the german renazification at the Wolfsschanze in spring 1942, and asked for a lovely young nobleman, who had already enrolled with the english shpitzel orgs, and had shown to be able to survive every enemy attack even if all his men died around him (more than once): this must have been Gehlen‘s ideal candidate for clandestine renazification after the end of the war, and it really began moving when this nobleman, Weizsäcker, became first führer of West Berlin, and then president of West Germany. Since then this clandstine renazification – with the only aim to make Germany again able to make war on Russia, and then to do it – really started. The glue between everything and everybody who either collaborates or is brought to nil is the „foreign shpitzel service“ BND – which is everybody‘s laugh as a „foreign shpitzel agency“, but a faultless and merciless monster for steering the inner (named „foreign“ means „within“, understand? sly, sin‘t it?) structure of the whole country (ourNKWD as it were). Nobody with any position of influence anywhere may get and keep a post without the BND‘s consent. Those people who quote Ulfkotte for having said that germ journalists worked for the CIA never also quoted him for continuing „and for the BND“. But while the CIA seems to distribute jobs case after case, the allegiance to the BND is forever and may never be counteracted. Nobody has ever analyzed or named or remarked this resolute renazification from the core of the „democratic“ institutions in West Germany, except the GDR while it existed. Yes, „a certain“ Nazi „danger“ was always present, „but luckily“ only as nazi folklore of amateur parties like NPD, who luckily never got too many votes. But the real nazis formed all the west german postwar governments, visibly except that of Willy Brandt‘s who therefore was chased out quickly.
Dear S113, Hitler‘s daughter has been made führeress because she is Hitler‘s daughter, and what her supporters and she herself want is to kill Russia, period. Yes, they do not say that yet, hoping that it will be easier that way – clever, isn‘t it?
bimboplumpe of NGWB
Hi bimboplumpe,
You certainly may be correct. I’ve just been watching current events and drawing my own conclusions, trying to be unbiased, based on what is occurring. Time will reveal all, that much we know for sure!
Cheers,
S113
Here is something more for us to chew on while we quietly sip our steaming beverages, and reflect on this topic – from an interview on Bulgaria, with Valentin Vatzev, specialist in political analysis, geopolitics and international relations, a lecturer in European studies and political philosophy in the European College and at Paisaii Hilendarski University in Plovdiv:
It is important that very soon Borisov will have to visit Warsaw and undertake engagements on behalf of Bulgaria with the new NATO, which is being created as we speak.
What do you mean by “the new NATO”?
A new NATO is being created as it has been established that neither Germany nor France can be reliable partners in case there is an escalation of tension between NATO and Russia. Obviously, Germany will play smart and will not wish to escalate the tension with Russia. In Germany, the idea of ‘North Stream-2′ is more inspiring. In France, they cannot be forced to confront Russia simply because the relations there are different. In other words, a new NATO is needed: NATO-2, which is in project form which is ready for realisation. Just imagine, from the Baltic states, through Poland, Ukraine, Moldova (there is a conflict region named Pridnestrovska Moldovian Republic where there are Russian forces located) and down to Turkey and Azerbaijan. If you place this whole variety on the map, you will see something like jack-lift which lifts up Russia from the lower part – from the south and the west. Apart from that, you will see a valve breaking the influence of Russia in south and south-eastern directions. Of course, this is an anti- Russian bloc as the old NATO stopped being anti-Russian. It lost inertia and intention to fight against Russia and honestly there was no reason for a fight. The Founding Act NATO-Russia was adopted, it is not just an Act or a Memorandum of Intention but a contract which has been working successfully for the last 20 years. It is interesting to see if it will be renewed. For all the interested partie,s both in the United States and in Russia, there are two options – to be or not to be renewed. If NATO-2 is realized, obviously this contract will be passed-by. Naturally, the military-industrial complex will celebrate.
https://southfront.org/the-real-power-is-in-the-american-embassy/
@bimboplumpe of NGWB: You have hit the nail squarely on the head.Some comments from America the Babylon.WW II was a Hegelian dialectic managed play. Hitler was owned/managed by the queen,and supported at large by the countries of the allies.Of course,when industrialists were caught,they had to pay huge fines.Standard Oil (of NJ) ,who was selling oil to Germany,had to pay a massive $1,000 fine;-). Then there was Ford’s motor-werks in Germany.It was on the DO NOT BOMB! list,unless you wanted to ride with Patton.The Nazi takeover of Babylon America starts with research of Prescott Bush.A can of worms I must say. (www.hoaxofthecentury.com/CensusBushGenealogy1.htm ) + ( https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Bush+is+a+nazi&t=ffnt&ia=videos ). Jack Heart does a good series of articles on the Fourth Reich. ( http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/01/black-sun-rising/ ).Ditto,also,Dr. Joseph Farrell ( http://gizadeathstar.com/farrell/nazi-technology/ ).
no surprise, this:
http://news.antiwar.com/2016/06/21/israeli-intel-chief-we-dont-want-isis-defeated-in-syria/
very scary………
Waitress,
A cup of coffee please – a strong one.
After almost a month of inactivity (due to illness), I have come to the cafeteria … I wish to feel the warmth of the fellow travelers – at one end of the spectrum, Denis with his ‘army of lovers’ and at the other extreme end, Martin from SEB with his ‘superior state model of Soviet Union’ …
So much has happened in past one month. But few incidents are bewildering, to say the least:
1) The USA/NATO is engaged in a show of strength near Russian border – I will say, the Anaconda exercise is being held like the western societies arrange ‘TV entertainment show’. Are the USA/NATO generals so naive to believe that Russia can back down (on several fronts like Syria, Ukraine) with such superficial show of strength at the borders ? It won’t take more than 72 hours for the current Russian military to reach German and Italian capitals !
2) The USA/NATO went ahead with installation of BMD bases in Poland and Romania. Considering as defensive systems, it may not score high marks. But, these are dangerous for Russia when it is taken into account that the same anti-missile systems can actually be used as ‘first attack’ missile system ! What is Russian response to it ?
3) Yet another false flag murder in USA by the Salafist terrorists created and groomed by the CIA/Pentagon/M16 and funded by the AZ cabal. Will the European politicians educate themselves about how Europe is getting destroyed by the Salafist terrorists channeled into Europe by Turkey ?
Hi Straight Bat
Good to see you around here again. Waitress! Please an expresso for me as well, and a glass of water. Thank you.
Hopefully you are fully recovered. I am very busy and have little time to sit around here, but I manage.
while you’re here, take a look at this. Some beauty will help us all bare the heavy vibrations sorrounding our world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtpsEV1gHZ0
Vercia V,
Thank you for such a beautiful link … We the peoples are so unfortunate in this corporatist world that we always run after money – we seldom enjoy the nature, the wonderful gift that mother earth has given to the mankind. The artists remind us how nice the nature is !
Well, if you have any report on what is happening in Venezuela-Bolivia-equador please let me know – I am so concerned that the revolutionary spirit of Latin America is once again under siege from the AZ cabal. I wish all success to all of you who is fighting for truth-justice-equality.
Dear Straight Bat
Thank you for asking. Venezuela was under a lot a pressure recently because the AZ empire is of course very aggressive as they have succeeded already in Argentina and Brazil. Argentina with the Zio-president and in Brazil through a poilitical coup against Dilma, We all know how this went. Venezuela had to face last week the diplomatic attack of the USA and Canada (plus some of their vassals) in the OAS (OEA in spanish). Venezuela simply perfomed brilliantly in the diplomatic battle and won against the empire this time. The comprador elite is still very powerful (directly and richly supported by the empire itself) and has infiltrated many layers of the government, unfortunately. Now I have to say, unfortunately corruption has always been a problem in Venezuela, actually born in the bi-party democratic era previous to Chavez. Right now Pres. Maduro has invited the opposition to a dialogue in order to strength peace within the country, The opposition coalition (MUD) has rejected the invitation. They actually are not interested in ANY negotiation whatsoever, they want to provoke a crisis situation which justifies the humanitarian USA intervention, aka a Lybian type of regime change. The legitime question here is of course, how stupid can you be to wish such a fate for your own country????? I do not have an answer for type of mental disorder….I have a video, I hope you can access it as I imported it from FB
https://www.facebook.com/telesurenglish/?fref=nf
article about hunger : http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/VeneHunger-20160506-0029.html#
Vercia,
Hope things are fine at your end, even if you remain busy. Thanks once again for the informative links… While the AZ oligarchy owned media is spreading lies and damn lies about everybody in Venezuela remains hungry month-after month, the reality is different – I suspect it the oligarchy aligned officials who are creating disturbances in food distribution and are creating artificial shortages. And, I fully agree with you about problem of corruption. In fact, if you look into the history of past 200 years, most of the political parties in many countries who actually had noble ideology and stood for upliftment of common people, finally were defeated and got wiped out because of few reasons, most important of which is corruption .
AZ Hegemon not only targeted Venezuela, but Bolivia and Equador are also under siege:
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/06/22/ecuador-cia-agent-known-as-swat-plus-others.html
In all these countries the opposition will be used by CIA to create ‘colour revolution’. The leadership should act fast and declare emergency rule and bring the state machinery completely under it’s control.
Vercia
When I think about that, that Van Gogh has died in misery, with all his talent, is very telling. I wish him he could have enjoyed just 1 (one) % of the value (in money) of his works. But humanity is far from being human. Somebody else have made a fortune – this is an “evolved” approach…
@ Straight-Bat
Hello. Sorry to hear about your confinement; your absence has been noticed and your return to the “good fight” is most welcome. I was also taken out for a while for a lesser reason.
“It won’t take more than 72 hours for the Russian army to reach German and Italian capitals”
I don’t think the Russians will provide 3 days of free video entertainment to Fox, CNN, BBC and all other propaganda boxes. If trouble happens, there will be a Hobbesian short, nasty and brutish response of surgical strikes at the well-known command and control centres and sources of immediate threats – just as a warning and taste of things to come if the Euro-vassals don’t come to their senses.
Cheers. Kim
Kim,
Thank you for the warm welcome back to the fighting arena. Over the years I have become one of ‘The Saker community’ member, if you wish to give it a name… It is interesting that with so many bloggers who have different opinion/belief, I feel we all are in the same boat – the boat of ‘humanity’.
I enjoyed your statement ” I don’t think the Russians will provide 3 days of free video entertainment to Fox, CNN, BBC and all other propaganda boxes. ” …
You are right about the surgical strikes if Euro-vassals don’t come to their senses. I have actually gone a step ahead, and assumed that AZ cabal will push Euro-vassals to pick a fight with the Bear, and the Bear will have to march west-ward again – this time it may be to the Atlantic shore (let the 10% lackeys of AZ cabal move to 5-Eyes)…
here a video recently made, Senator Black and his very powerful words. If there would be just more politicians like him in the USA, we would be all safe. Blessings to him for his courage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRRB5TKYZJA&feature=youtu.be
Thanks. How can he get away with talking this way? How does he get elected? The empire requires some victims to be fattened up for the sacrifice to come. It gives psychos, whose inner hurt has turned to hatred, a sick joy, like a domesticated cat which plays with its victims. It allows enemies to talk and talk because talk only covers what killers are really up to. Sen Black seems to have all the facts correct but remains gullible and naive about the main culprits.
When he says Erdogan is the greatest threat, it’s a cover again for the real powers. The same dynamic holds for this vineyard; we talk the truth but there is little organized action to back up the words. The words without actions just give the empire more information about its enemies.
The love army is about actions, including talk and thought as action. To use just one example that I see in the people I associate with, and also here at the vineyard. My ex has a dog and now two cats. She thinks it’s the highest virtue of love. I see it as a major cause of us making ourselves pets by association; pet slaves of empire who are ignorant of any kind of deep, causal connections, which are sacrificed for sensual and emotional compensations of real love.
I do what I have to do and others do otherwise. It’s the glory of freedom and gory war of self-hatred projected outwardly in events like ISIS in bed with the CIA. “Time will tell who has won and who has fell, and who’s been left behind, when you go your way and I go mine.”
Dennis,
You made me laugh Dennis, I can imagine your ex with her dog and her two cats playing around you in the garden while you give them not just snags but some lessons about the love army. At least you don’t have to share with them the fruits and vegetables, though I wonder what will tell the dog facing a cucumber …
yeah, my two rescue cats are really very happy they are not 1. coyote food 2. incinerator dust.
And I am so glad they graced me with their loyalty and love because unlike a dog, if you managed to mortally offend a cat, it is gone out the door—coyotes, dog catchers be d-mned.
Jeez, let’s anthropomorphize the divine He/She says: let’s give these divine creatures free will so they can learn —-oh-oh..
..well, let’s put down a few rules. darn,
well, let’s send them a living example of how to be a divine/human.
Oh shucks!!! Ok. let’s just turn them loose on themselves and pretend WE are dead. whew, that will do the trick! wink, wink.
no! please ioan! whenever this feeling comes up in you, reject it as fast as possible! that is evil! this is what they want, they want us hopeless and defenseless! do not accept it! we are pure love! this is not true! as Kim rightfully says, there is a mixture of half trues and blatant lies, it is the mark of deception. It is the milleneal recipe for attacking The Truth. They paint it with dirty colors, like the notorius phrase:
“Satanic Globalist Collectivist Communism”
Communism is far less satanic and global than capitalism, liberalism, naturalism, humanism and many other names they gave their distorted ideas.
Proof? one and most important: the quality of values of human beings who lived in these countries display. Just compare quitely with the product deliverd by the so called West…Good by Livingstone
I meant Good-bye Livingstone. My apologies.
what a difference a little letter can make…frightening :-)
(I’m at work and my boss (husband) keeps coming in and asking for things…I cannot always read what I wrote)
Hi Dennis
I was certainly not expecting such an answer. Quite interesting your theories about cat games. I tend to think that unless you directly attack the AZ directory, they are allowed to say more or less a lot. Like your observation is very accurate, if he did not put all the blame on Erdogan as the puppet he is, if the true string pullers were named, then he’d be in imminent danger.
On your impatience with the love soldiers, I agree, we are not yet there, I mean ready for the action…I’m afraid, I speak for myself…still indulging in wrong behaviour…the inertia is still big
a hug
V
You know, if this machine wasn’t in the way, I could hug you three above (ioan, T13, Vercia). Let me say, I state my opinions forcefully but I don’t want to be opinionated. I could be wrong, way wrong. But if every time I make an observation, I had to preface it with, IMO, IMHO and begging your pardon, I would double my already verbose verbiage.
I have been busy, very busy, helping my orange-haired ex move from her place a mile or two from here. I never saw so much stuff in my life. It’s just a small two bedroom bungalow, much reduced from the three bedroom house we use to co-own. I remember way back when we first were engaging, helping her move from her one bedroom place; red flags were flashing about all that stuff, but I paid no heed; it was “ninety miles an hour down a dead-end street.” I try to live simply with as little stuff as possible. We ended up on Grand Canal in Venice, CA for about four years before we bought our first house because of the coming baby. We were married on Venice Beach; where I was marrying her and her stuff, which at that time consisted of anywhere from one to twenty guinea pigs.
We divorced about ten years ago but nothing really changed except the sex and living together. We always live nearby each other, even when I was homeless with a motorhome on the street, dealing with the cops. The place up north, Carizzo Plain, where her trailer is, and her new room in a four bedroom house in Oceania, near the ocean, is not quite finalized, although her lady friend has moved in. So all her stuff is being transport by her van, to guess where, yes, right here, until the other places are ready. You should see all the stuff, not including her cute lap dog, who I cannot help smiling at, and her two fraidy cats, which she doesn’t dare let loose here for fear of the coyotes; we both sleep outside separately.
I have built her bed and some other structures to accommodate her move. She’s always wanted to sleep and cook outside, so she loves it. My back is sore from all the moving, especially that couch this morning which I helped haul outside to give away. Sometimes I think she’s nuts (This woman of mine is driving me to tears; she’s so crazy I won’t touch another one for years) but I’m unlearning my patriarchal ways; and am beginning to realize that she’s way more intelligent than me in certain areas. Like she knows four languages, and I know one. If it wasn’t for her pets and diet which includes meat, I might consider her for the future communal marriage arrangement. But, oh the memory of those fights and bruises, forbid it.
Patriarchal marriage of twosomes and couple relationships are not without their value. Intellectually and spiritually, I think they are a cause of war because they undercut communal sex and love, but like I said, I could be wrong. I haven’t dared yet to acquaint her with my full view on communal sex, like I do safely here. She and I have mellowed much, so I don’t think she would go full bore crazy the blow up the place, but, oh, those memories.
She just pulled up in her van, with the mattress and a table, roped to the top, so I must post this, before she intuits that I’m talking about her. She would never waste her time on a place like this, I don’t think, but then again, she does share my political views, and Putin’s nature-like technologies, so who knows what changes can occur.
She’s hollering for my help, so I must go be a go-for-her (gopher that I am). Cheers.
oh Gosh! Dennis you receive now my virtual hug!!
What a great love story you have with the oranged-haired Lady of yours! and all the cats and coyotes. Wonderful! my poor husband also has a lot to suffer from my moved ways, with lots of relatives, and music, and the many trips he had to join me to….
WAHHABISM AND THE OCCULT CONSPIRACY by David Livingstone
British Channel 4’s Dispatches has produced a scathing documentary, called Undercover Mosque, about the negative influence of Saudi Arabia, through its promotion of Wahhabism, among the Muslim community of Britain. But the video is clear to point out that, “Wahhabism is opposed to the traditional tolerant beliefs of classical Islam”. What the video does not cover, however, is that the spread of the Wahhabi interpretation of Islam is part of a larger Western agenda, involving the CIA, to denigrate Islam.
Wahhabism was created in 1708, by the British Secret Services who funded Abdul Wahhab in order to pervert and thus destroy Islam and to create psychopathic satanic jihadi armies to destroy the Ottoman Empire and any other enemy they wanted destroyed.
The Wahhabis insinuate themselves as legitimate members of the Muslim community, but Wahhabism was created by the British, in 1708, to undermine Islam. It has since been promoted by the state of Saudi Arabia, which was originally established by the British to achieve Western control of the world’s primary oil resource. (David Livingstone, “Globalists Created Wahhabi Terrorism”)
In modern times, the Wahhabis have aligned themselves with a still more pernicious deviation from Islam, the Salafi. These name themselves accordingly because they claim to follow the earliest generations of the Muslims, known as the Salaf, and therefore, to be nearest to the purity of the original faith. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Salafism was the result of a policy, at the turn of the century, of the Oxford Movement, headed by Lord Palmerston, Benjamin Disraeli and Edward Bullwer-Lytton, to spread Luciferian 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasonry in the Middle East (Robert Dreyfuss, Hostage to Khomeini). Lord Palmerston was a fellow member of the Luciferian 33rd Degree Sexual Ritual Palladian Rite, along with Luciferian Albert Pike, who originally devised a plot for three world wars, culminating in a third against the Muslim world. Bulwer-Lytton was a leading occult figure, heading the English Rosicrucians, which evolved directly from the Shabbatean heresy, through the Asiatic Brethren.(David Livingstone, Terrorism and the Illuminati, “The Salafi”)
The agent of this strategy was a notorious impostor by the name of Jamal ud Din al Afghani, the Grand Master of the Freemasons of Egypt. According to K. Paul Johnson, it was Afghani, as head of the occult Hermetic Brotherhood of Luxor, or HB of L, who was responsible for teaching Helena Blavatsky her central doctrines (In Search of the Masters). Helena P. Blavatsky, the famous medium and mystic, was the godmother of the occult revival of the late nineteenth century. According to Manly P. Hall, a leading Masonic historian:
The Secret Doctrine and Isis Unveiled are from the Russian Satanic “Black Five Hundred” Agent Madame Blavatsky’s gifts to humanity, and to those whose vision can pierce the menacing clouds of imminent disaster it is no exaggeration to affirm that these writings are the most vital literary contribution to the modern world. No more can they be compared with other books than can the light of the sun be compared with the lamp of the glowworm. The Secret Doctrine assumes the dignity of a scripture.
Numerous other leading occultists affiliated with Bullwer-Lytton’s English Rosicrucians travelled to Egypt at the time, and on their return, established branches of the HB of L, out of which emerged the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO), the most notorious member of which was Aleister Crowley.
The Nazis were the result of a merging of British Secret service O.T.O of Crowley and the Thule Gesselschaft of Germany. It is presumably for this reason that Hitler, when he wished to create an arm of German Intelligence in Egypt, contact a leading Salafi and Freemason, named Hasan al Banna. (Loftus, John. “Al Qaeda Terrorists Nazi Connection”)
It was eventual head of the CIA, Allen Dulles, after WWII, who spearheaded the move to hire ex-Nazis to train the terrorists. This was part of the same plot that created the Stay-Behind or Gladio network, that were behind the “Strategy of Tension” that used the Red Brigade to destabilize Italy throughout the seventies.
In 1954, after it was discovered that the Muslim Brotherhood was responsible for an attack on his life, President Gamal Nasser of Egypt ordered a crackdown. Interrogations revealed that the Muslim Brotherhood functioned virtually as a German Intelligence unit. As well, as divulged by Miles Copeland, a former CIA operative specializing in the Middle East, in his autobiography, The Game Player:
Nor was that all. Torture of the Moslem Brotherhood organizers who had been arrested revealed that the organization had been thoroughly penetrated, at the top, by the British, American, French and Soviet intelligence services, any one of which could either make active use of it or blow it up, whichever best suited its purposes. Important lesson: fanaticism is no insurance against corruption; indeed, the two are highly compatible. (p. 184.)
Fleeing members of the Muslim Brotherhood were then shuttled to the CIA’s ally, Saudi Arabia. When John Loftus, a Justice Department official in the eighties, was permitted to peruse classified government documents, he discovered that the British Secret Service convinced American intelligence that the Arab Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood would be indispensable as “freedom fighters” in preparation for the next major war, which was anticipated against the Soviet Union. There, according to Loftus, “they were given jobs as religion education instructors.” (“The Muslim Brotherhood, Nazis and Al-Qaeda”. Jewish Community News, October 4, 2004)
Among those transferred to Saudi Arabia by the CIA was Mohammed Qutb, brother of the executed head of the Muslim Brotherhood, Sayed Qutb, who then befriended Osama bin Laden, and recruited him into the organization.
The first important strategy which they served in, at the height of the Cold War, was as pawns in the US’s strategy against the Soviet Union. The US sought to covertly undermine the USSR by dragging it into its own version of Vietnam in Afghanistan (Le Nouvel Observateur, interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, 15-21 January 1998). The CIA accomplished this by beginning to fund members of the Muslim Brotherhood in the country, following which the Soviets had no choice but to intervene. What ensued was a 20 year brutal struggle, after which, again through CIA support, the fanatical and Wahhabi indoctrinated Taliban were brought to power.
Being the largest covert operation in CIA history, it was all secretly financed through the Iran-Contra affair. The regime in Iran itself was also brought about through Western conspiring with members of the Muslim Brotherhood in that country, culminating in the establishment as ruler of British agent Ayatollah Khomeini. Arms were sold to Iran, traded with the right-wing Contras of Nicaragua for Cocaine, then brought to the Mena, Arkansas, under Clinton’s supervision, before being distributed to LA street gangs, thus igniting the so-called Crack Epidemic of the eighties. Funds accumulated were then transmitted to Afghanistan, to fund the “Mujahideen”, headed by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, who was also responsible for the CIA’s opium cultivation in that country (author, Terrorism and the Illuminati, “Guns, Drugs and Jihad”).
The novelty of the ruse of the Wahhabis is that they do not present themselves as a sect of Islam, but merely as a group within the majority, known as Sunnis, committed to orthodoxy. In Western countries, as pointed out by Stephen Schwartz, in The Two Faces of Islam, the Muslim communities there are newly created, and do not have long-standing traditions of classical Islam. It is possible, therefore, for Saudi Arabia to move in and dominate the burgeoning communities. Through their immense oil wealth, they have financed the construction of mosques, printed the majority, if not all, of the Muslim literature in English, and have financially backed all the so-called “moderate” organizations which purportedly represent the interests of the Muslims.
The purpose of promoting Wahhabism is not merely to create the mindset of the terrorist, but to indoctrinate certain Muslims to become aberrations of human beings, exemplifying all that is despicable, including misogyny, ignorance, intolerance and bigotry, as the video painfully exposes. The intent is to create an egregious image of the Muslims, to secure their identity with the prevailing prejudices against them, in order to bring about a Clash of Civilizations, or the so-called War on Terror, in other words, the War on Islam.
This will certainly inflame hatred among the bigoted right in America and elsewhere, who will surely claim “I told you so”. But more importantly, the message provided is a wake-up call for the Muslims, to recognize the vipers hiding their midsts who have hijacked their religion. It is high time for Muslims to return to the noble principles of their religion, and start acting like the examples the world is waiting to see.
CONSCIOUSLY CREATED FAKE GANGS All Rituals, Religion, Education, Secret Services and Political Movements have been Scientifically Engineered to create Fake Gangs for 10,000 Years. It’s what the old Roman Empire, and the Babylonian Empire, and the Cult of Apollo, and the Byzantine Empire did before.
The Guy Fawkes plotters were a ‘Fake gang’ controlled by the London government. The UK’s General Frank Kitson (Trail Blazing Fake Terrorism) refers to the ‘Fake gangs’ set up by the security services. The idea of the ‘Fake gang’ is to carry out acts of violence which can then be blamed on other people. Fake gangs have been used in Ireland (IRA), Vietnam, Italy – GLADIO, Turkey, Belgium, the Philippines, Kenya, Malaya, Iraq, Syria (ISIS), New York (Al Qaeda) and many other places. Lord Stevens, a former UK police chief, is quoted as saying that only three out of 210 terrorist suspects he arrested in a probe in Northern Ireland were not working for either the police, the security service MI5 or the UK Army. On 21 December 2011, we learnt that the IRA was run by the UK security services. Stephen Grey’s book The New Spymasters says the UK intelligence services used the family of ‘IRA leader’ Gerry Adams as spies for the UK military. It would seem that the King set up ETON – SINCE 1430, Whipping and Fagging to create Fierce Homosexual Pedophile Warriors, Burocrats, Clergy, and Politicians in an educational system based on Greece and Sparta – The foundation of the British Empire.
The fake gangs idea has been used since Babylon 10,000 years ago, with this Scientific Engineering of Society, the Satanic Religion – another fake gang – has spread and infil-traited every noble family, every noble civilisation, and it is even now infil-traiting your country, your civilisation. All Rituals, Religion, Education and Political Movements are designed to create fake gangs of psychopaths who can then be used to create control through chaos infrastructure destruction created poverty – The Satanic Oligarchic Policy of Poverty – destroying infrastructure – dumming down – preventing human evolution.
CONSCIOUSLY CREATED FAKE GANGS
1. ISIS – Venetian created MI6 created Wahhabism in 1708 – based on the same principles as Lutherism – and institutionalised it in MI6 created Saudi Arabia to create destabilising Jihadi Armies creating chaos in the Middle East, Russia and China.
2. PROTESTANTISM – Luther, like Abdul Wahhab was a paid Agent working for Venetian Cardinal Contarini
3. ETON – SINCE 1430, Whipping and Fagging to create Fierce Homosexual Pedophile Warriors, Burocrats, Clergy, and Politicians in an educational system based on Greece and Sparta – The foundation of the British Empire.
4. SATANISM/LUCIFERIANISM/33RD DEGREE FREEMASONRY – Pagan Rituals and Myths used to pervert, degenerate and control a psychopathic ruling class. Mao was a 33rd Degree Freemason!!
5. SATANIC SABBATEAN FRANKISTS infiltrate Jews and Jewish organisations worldwide. Pagan Rituals and Myths used to pervert, degenerate and control a Jewish psychopathic ruling class of Donmeh Attaturk, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Schiffs, Warburgs.
6. KARL MARX – Wrote Das Capital from his MI6 provided office in the British National Museum under Ambassador Urquhart creating MI6 inspired Communism, Russian Revolution (65 millions tortured dead) and Mao’s Chinese Revolution (85 millions tortured dead), and Socialism. George Orwell’s Totalitarian text’s “1984” “A Boot, stamping in your face, forever” – the Totalitarian or Legalist Fake Gangs sprang from this bough. Capitalists, Marxists, Communists and Socialists spring from the same Fake Gangs bough.
7. CATHOLICISM AND CYBELE AND ATTIS WORSHIP and its castrated Galli Homosexual Pederasty Priests – the State Religion of the Roman Empire – morphed into the Catholic Church, Cybele – Mary, Adonis – Jesus, Molech – God. The Black Death. Pederasty, Inquisition – The Horror Holy Medieval Inquisition – 50 million tortured burned dead, – burning alive, breast rippers, strappado, rack etc. Fascism and the Holocaust. The Catholic Church is controlled through the Gang Kings, Queens, Nobility of Europe. The Jesuits, The Knights of Malta. Its Vatican Bank is fronted by the Rothschilds, has 500 Trillion Dollars, controls 70% of Fortune 500 companies, controls 70% of all banks Worldwide, controls 100% of all central Banks, consciously creating all depressions, all austerity, all Wars, all famine genocide, False Flags and the assassinations of JFK, RFK, and MLK, or the September 11th “Terror Attacks”.
8. EUGENICISTS started by Huxley, Darwin, Pilkington families, later named TRANSHUMANISTS by Sir Julian Huxley, Head of Rockefeller created UNESCO who spilled the beans to his brother Aldous Huxley in his book, “Brave New World” in 1932. Later in a 1963 speech at Columbia University, Aldous admitted the Aim of Eugenicists was the same as that of his book.
9 ECONOMISTS – Economists have been paid – Adam Smith (and his Satanic Mandevillian, “Public benefits come from Private Vices”) was a hack, paid by Lord Shelburne, Head of the British East India Company, foundation of the British Empire – to create an Economics which would perpetuate the Bankers of the British Empire, later the Anglo-American Empire. Austrian Economics and it’s Austerity – The Oligarchic Principle of Poverty – was supported and spread by Nelson Rockefeller. The Economist Fake Gangs. Solution to this is Hudson and Larouche Modern Monetary Theory.
9. SOCIAL DARWINISTS
The Treaties – Trans Pacific Partnership TPP – USA – SE ASIA, and Trans Atlantic Partnership TAP – USA – EUROPE, now signed into Law even though these Treaties are Secret, place Vatican Controlled International Fortune 500 Companies above all Governments to censor the internet and much more..
BOHEMIAN GROVE
A picture of the Satanic ritual, The Cremation of Care – The destruction of Empathy – The degeneration of the Heart – where they burn a baby on an Altar in font of a 40ft stone Owl in front of a lake Fake Gang Bohemian Grove Gaytriarchy WISE OLD OWLS including presidents of the USA plan on preying on the victim human race which cannot “see” in the darkness their propaganda and mind control creates so they can devour YOU!!
The Satanist Grovers make “policy” between Luciferian rituals, romping around in the redwoods in togas.
Their attitude: “Hey nothing personal! You’ve heard of Satanic Darwinian “Survival of the fittest”, haven’t you? We Owls can see in the dark , you can’t. Therefore we are entitled to EAT you! Right? Of course we’re right. And so it has been for hundreds of thousands of years! And so we intend to keep it!”
Congress: Union of Sacred Masculine and Sacred Feminine, The Dove, swallowed by Rothschilds and minions such as Morgans, Rockefellers etc. Their lodge member urban planner and his masters are telling you: Congress? Representative Democracy?
Hah! Suckers, we OWN you and your congressman. Ha! – and they are saying that in broad daylight, which gives them a big charge of legitimacy and empowerment, for they are “illuminated” and you are in the dark.
I guess the education system isn’t full proof indoctrinating your children into Satanic Globalist Collectivist Communism….they need more weapons to more quickly dumb down humanity…vaccines are all set up to make the tribe over at the Rockefeller medical industrial complex $90 Billion a year….autism was practically unheard of until they started pumping babies with tainted vaccines to turn them into a bunch of handicapped chimps…
If you really think that my analysis is a form of softness or passivity then you really misread me and the purpose of this diatribe.
You probably know that it is a well-known problem with despots and dictators when the gradually surround themselves with only those kind of advisors who enthusiastically agree with everything the despot wants to hear and with everything the despot says.
Enemy Propaganda is like this.
My question to you is simple: do you want to turn into a “despotic reader” – somebody who will come to this article to hear his views supported, his ideas vindicated and his hopes affirmed? Or do you prefer to come here, get what I hope is an honest, if generally cautious, analysis which you can then either accept or reject?
My job is to try to present to you the truth as best as I can distinguish it – and see below the supporting evidence. Even when that truth is cautious or, worse, unpleasant.
Look, the intelligence process goes through what is called the “Four A’s”: Acquisition, Analysis, Acceptance, Action. The first one is “getting the data/info”. The second one means making sense of it and presenting it to your “client” (in this case: all of you). The third one is always overlooked: acceptance by the “client” – i.e., the willingness to hear a negative or disappointing analysis. This is the part which YOU (collective “you”) must do (or refuse to do). Last is action.
The actions I recommend are the avoidance of poison, and the active getting the poison out of the body, physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually.
Genuine Spiritual techniques used for thousands of years by ancient spiritual masters.
Deprogram, Become normal.
Become a good person!!
Anonymous
I’ve read your post very carefully and I came to the conclusion that the only way to get rid of all these terrible evil doers and her sponsors once and for all, is the nuke the whole world, alias by fire. There is no other option, to pinpoint every single cell is impossible. Destroy it or let to be destroyed, what’s the alternative ?
War and the hero’s healing have been with us for a long time:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/06/22/barbarism-civilization-and-modern-politics-ptsd-as-a-political-football-in-a-hobbesian-age/
@ ioan
Don’t despair yet. Whoever wrote that crap, with deep inside cant of occultism and hocus-pocus black art, must be a devious crackpot mixing up certain known facts (eg. false flag events) into a narrative were human beings are forever controlled by puppet-masters hidden behind the screen of secret societies. Seems like a Quigley’s devotee’s work.
Kim
Yes, Kim, I can easily recognize Bro Anon, despite his multinicks. Only that, now, he has showed what his agenda here is.
Introducing his analysis with some known facts that are truth, already known in a forum such as this we are in for almost all readers here ( i.e. the hand of the world wide hated British Secret Services MI5, MI6, and American CIA, in the creation not only of the entity known as Saudi Arabia, but also of the Muslim Brotherhood, through which they play an indispensable role in the creation and spreading of Wahabism, Salafism, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Gladio….terrorism in general and world wide drugs traffic…. ) he makes an incredible mixing/looping exercise to carry us to his final objective, to include Communism amongst the Luciferian tendencies and acts of the Satanic Elite of banksters, nobility, royalty and priesthood of all religions and their puppets/ lackeys behind the scenes.
Since all that display of friendship/kindness coming suddenly from unknown newcome commenters, all that True Love, True Care, Goddesses, Sacred Feminine, Sacred Masculine, Comunal Sex and Vulvas….and the subtly, or not so subtly, trolling, targeting especially people who has declared itself Communist here ( as me myself or Martin from Soviet East Berlin ) I was wondering where all this were going to lead us.
Well, so here you have someone ( or better said, some people ) who works hard in order to prevent an improbable outcome of “Satanic Globalist Collectivist Communism”
Something new here since the times of the Dulles/ MacCarthies?
I find definitely interesting that sentence starting with “My job is to try….”. Clarifying as could be. And yes, good try, he defintely thinks we still suck our fingers ( not in vain he calls us suckers…)
Good try and hard job for nothing or, “Para este viaje, no hacía falta tantas alforjas”.
Hi Kim and elsi,
elsi: How well you said this – it is unbelievable.
If you ever claimed about yourself that your English abilities were “limited” you have once again proven how incorrect such claims were.
Removed. No attacking other commenters.
Thank you, comrade elsi :)
No Elsi, I’ve been away. If there are any Bro imposters posting, please copy and paste the exact offending lines! I’ll gladly break them down and prove my case, and make the cloudy and confused as clear as truth.
Again you take everything as an insult to your own person, which is not the case……. (If I have a particular person in mind I have no problem aiming for the middle of their forehead, in the interests of clarity…..).
Communist solidarity? Well my wife once held a party card of the CCCP. But you have me pegged as red hater. How wrong you are! I choose them to wed, I take them to bed.
I just wish some of them had more of a sense of humor. Hasta la vista, Querida Elsi!
This conversation is now closed. This is now personal attacks on one commenter (Bro) and breaks the moderation policy. He is not the Anon above. Please no responses either as it will drag on the conversation and will become trolling. Mod.
@ Anonymous
Gosh! So much garbage hidden under a few facts!
You try to justify human enterprise – including vicious delinquency – under the guise of a controlled web of occult dens, state-sponsored Satanists, banksters and religious fanatics. We are all pure innocent souls but for the malefic influence of a coterie of well-heeled conspirators who plotted all ills affecting mankind from the Chaldean to the current Azion Empire! And through all that historic walk populated with evil-minded nasties, not a single Jew raised his ugly head, except Marx in his study at the British Museum, but only because of his perfidious deed of trying to give scientific basis to social evolution! It’s amazing the other famous Jew, Christ, did not get a mention!
Anonymous,
I must congratulate you for penning down such a wonderful ‘horror story’ of mankind (as per you 10000 years of existence). And finally, the topping of the crap is the concept floated by you as “Satanic Globalist Collectivist Communism” !
So, yet another AZ intellectual troll is on the mission of creating confusion among intelligent readers.
Straight-Bat, comrade, just read about your illness, glad to see you posting again, I was missing you.
Glad to know you have already recovered, from nothing serious, I hope.
elsi,
thank you, comrade, for your warm wishes. I too missed you. Regained from a month long gastrointestinal problem. Can’t remain aloof from this wonderful group of bloggers – moreover, I have to be in the fight for truth-justice-equality with you and others who are fighting for it.
With UK voters chosing to exit from EU, the AZ cabal is now planning to annul the vote result through declaration in British parliament that the parliament wish to remain in EU for, (what else ?) the ‘larger interest of the people’.
Update on that Pan council convened, which is just infighting to control the collection plate of a subset of the pay-to-pray religions.
Just so you know it’s another example ad nauseum why they’re called ‘state religions’.
Another important figure in charge of the relationship between the Crete Council and US intelligence is Alex Rondos who currently holds the post of the EU Special Representative for the Horn of Africa. Rondos is closely tied to the hierarchy of the Patriarchate of Constantinople, US intelligence agencies, the United Kingdom, and globalist NGO’s. He was personally acquainted with Father Alexander Karloutsos, and often visits George Soros. Alex Rondos’s biography is so intriguing that the plot reads like a spy novel.
http://katehon.com/article/man-behind-scenes-crete-council
amazing! I thought something like this was cooking as the Mooscow Patriachate refused to take part. Thanks a lot for the interesting info.
back from translating Moon’s feelings on the week into Mercury’s distinctions from the heavenly buoy
I’m ready for a campari soda and some comments in the different corners of the cafe
here my load:
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.de/2016/06/with-mercury-to-soul-of-fire.html
We received your load and what a massive dump it was! re: “women walking according to the inward rules provide an alternative source of light”
So now to cogitate in the waters of Venus trine Neptune waiting for the weekend Pisces Moon to power surge our alternative source of light.
Mars Stays aloof and sulks deep into his retrograde: growls against this enforced retreat which he resentfully fights.
Onward and upward ! I don’t go forward just to go back!
This is not sailing and don’t tell me to tack!
Listen to the resonance sounded, may its artistry be heeded
your steel is forged in fire but in water must be tempered
delay gives you time to be lettered in what’s needed
then- charge forward alert and by hatred unfettered
“Mars Stays aloof and sulks deep into his retrograde: growls against this enforced retreat which he resentfully fights.”
but he will get the chance again and with him Uranus
A new talent in poetry, defusing wars as well as studying the stars. As aging scout, no longer able to play ball or even manage, I will keep a look out. (There’s a poem in there somewhere, but no time! Must run to poetry meeting, before I can tweak the lines, and make some rhyme.)
An old story from the ’50 , mom traveling with his 5 year old boy in summer with the train…the boy is questioning of course in his innocence :
Good boy Denis
Denis is just 5 year old
Good boy, her mother told.
When she’s at the wicket
Mom buys only one ticket
Wanted to spare the money
For this early train journey.
Train is going on his way
Denis is doing his play
Ticket inspector appearing,
Denis is just disappearing.
Mother took him under cover
While inspector coming over.
Inspector goes in his shirt
Denis comes below the skirt.
He saw a black and hairy
Some sort of dark mystery…
Asks her mom what is that ?
Mamy says shaking her head :
It’s a brush, I wear with me
Where’s the haft ? asked he.
Daddy wears the haft with him
And every night he plugs it in.
Denis is just 5 year old
Good boy, her mother told…
Please tell me guys if you have difficulties with this…
Saw this on RT,” The Sterling has jumped after pollster YouGov put ‘Remain’ at 52 percent and ‘Leave’ at 48 percent as vote counting gets under way.”. Just as I and many others predicted days (weeks) ago. The phony “vote” will be portrayed as a “50 something” to “40 something” victory for remaining in the EU. Hopefully at least this will show Europeans that only “revolution”,with all that entails,can bring them change.Not phony voting campaigns. If you are ever offered a choice of joining a group that says you can “vote” your way to Freedom”. Or offered the choice of joining a group that says only revolutionary seizure of power can free you,join the latter group.The first group is only an elite trick to keep you enslaved.
Still hope, GBP now sliding, I’m watching the currencies and metals every minute:
https://de.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GBPEUR=X
The All-Night Nailbiter: The First Official Results Give “Leave” Some Hope
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-23/nailbiter-continues-here-are-first-official-results-and-they-give-bremain-some-hope
“””””Update 7:00 PM: And a shocker already from Newcastle. As we noted earlier, Newcastle was supposed to have a comfortable 12 point leads for Remain. However, moments ago the official results came out and while Remain did in fact vote for Remain, it won by the smallest possible margin with 51% voting to Remain and 49% voting to Leave.
* * *
Until this point, it was all polling, hearsay, speculation and rumors. Now, we finally have the first official results. We will update this post with incremental data as long as a clear picture emerges.
The first official result, Gibraltar, has been a whopping victory for Remain with 19,322 voting to Remain and only 823 to leave.”””””
FYI U.B.:
looks increasingly as I just wrote in /the-stolenreferendum-how-cameron-co-have-ruthlessly-exploited-the-murder-of-mp-jo-cox-to-save-their-skins-and-the-eu-project/comment-page-1/#comment-251880
now at this minute the results would be:
453000 for BREXIT versus only 425000 for BREMAIN
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-23/nailbiter-continues-here-are-first-official-results-and-they-give-bremain-some-hope
https://de.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GBPEUR=X
(lost 2% in less than 1 hour:)
GBP/EUR (GBPEUR=X) -CCY
1,2865 – 0,0275(2,09%) 02:41
https://de.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GBPUSD=X
GBP/USD (GBPUSD=X) -CCY
(lost 3,27 % in less than 1 hour)
1,4525 Down 0,0491(3.2700%)
https://de.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=eurUSD=X
EUR against USD also lost 1,2% (in less than 1 hour)
EUR/USD (EURUSD=X) -CCY
1,1290 Down 0,0138(1.2100%) 02:43
Tomorrow is the legendary Black Friday June 24th 2016, the start of the end.
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Well, I need more Tea …
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/06/04/bbc%20teaser_2.jpg
@ Uncle Bob
“Not phony campaigns”
Very true. This has been recognised by the power elites for very long, hence their attachment to “elections” and “democracy” as means of to legitimate oppression.
Change through the electoral system will never be tolerated (e.g. Iran’s Mosaddegh, Chile’s Allende, Ireland’s rejection of the EU Treaty, Greece’s referendum against EU austerity) are the most recent examples that voting is allowed only as far as the result does not affect the political power structure.
Regardless of the outcome of the Brexit referendum, I’m sure nothing of substance will change and the power clique are already getting the chairs rearranged on the deck to suit their purposes: e.g. an association agreement, similar to Suitzerland and Norway . But an exit vote would embolden others to jump ship before their countries are completely crushed like Greece. Hopefully.
Kim
to all moderators: Thanks for wading through piles of the excreta of people’s personalities ( mine included) which often gets posted here. The labor of Hercules, indeed.
Sorry if this is ad hominum but that last post was , to say the least,pointlessly tasteless beyond measure.
Thanks – it can be a bit thankless sometimes, especially when you put hours in as a volunteer to find yourself being verbally abused. Thankfully that is rare, but your vote of appreciation is much — well, appreciated. Mod on Duty.
As a “follow-up” to my previous post,I want to give some examples of the way “change” in history has worked in the last centuries. The 17th Century saw the British “revolutions” free the upper classes and high bourgeoisie in Britain,and bring them to state power. The 18th Century (and early 19th Century) saw the North American, French,and Latin American Revolutions,free the high and middle bourgeoisie to come to power in those regions. And the “Springtime of Nations” of the 19th Century, in much of the rest of Europe, completed the freeing,and power taking by the European bourgeoisie (while those revolutions in themselves mostly failed,the aftermath from them accomplished the purpose).By the end of the 19th Century, “Revolutions” of one kind or the other, had freed all social classes in the Eurocentric World “except” the lower classes.The 20th Century,sometimes called a “Century of Revolutions”,was concerned with the freeing of the “lower classes”. The Russian Revolution,the Mexican Revolution,the Chinese Revolution,and the Cuban Revolution.Were the first in modern history to give concern to the rights and freedoms of the lower classes of society,i.e. the vast majority of the “people” of the World. From that time,the lower classes could no longer be taken for granted by the governing powers. To be thought of as “just there”,will no legal say in how they were governed. But with the collapse of the USSR and its allied governments in 1989-1991,until today. What we have seen is a form of “counter-revolution”. Where the elite bourgeoisie has attempted (with much success,I might add) to return the era of the late 19th Century.To a time when the lower classes once again have no say. And only exist to be ” hewers of wood and drawers of water”,and are to obey the orders of “their betters”. Just as the past shows,the future can not be different. The only change possible comes from Revolution. All other “ideas” are a myth,put out by our “masters” to keep us in chains.While the “methods” of enslavement might differ by country (propaganda,radical jihadism,debt peonage,co-opting political parties,military force,police power,racism,etc),the reality and purposes are the same.
Thanks for this excellent and informative summary of recent revolutions.
I am most interested in the revolution currently being discussed at this Cafe of the Revolution of Love. I’ve seen enough bumper stickers to know it’s happening all over. The Revolution of Love is a popular dream, with many fine songs supporting it.
My contribution is as a reporter on the love army, with its ten divisions, with a military fanciful story. The first division represents thought, ideas, ideology, consciousness and information, in the contest and context of stopping war on Russia and stopping war in general. It begins with thought. I think the word “love” as often as I can, and send love to the hot spots all over. The source of love, as I understand it is from our creator lovers, here and from as far away as the stars.
The other nine divisions involve very difficult actions, some more than others, with different persons of varying interests and capacities. But even a thought of love, even a negative thought helps the love army in its campaign of turning the world right side up.
The word Love is the search word for tapping into this energy. When we catch on to how powerful this one innocent, and greatly maligned and misunderstood, and abused term, is, we will be on our way back to the future.
In my energetic cosmology, there is a natural trinity of lover, love and lovers; the personal, impersonal and inter-personal expressions of loving herself. Another way of putting it is, no longer: be perfect as your Father in heaven; but be proficent as your Mother on earth; and even better, be perfect and imperfect as your Lover everywhere.
We are not there yet but we’re getting there. Hold on to your chair in that revolutionary cafe corner, because you haven’t seen anything yet.
I’m aware of Saker, working on his Patristic thesis. Saint John said: “God is Love,” Saint John of the Cross said: “The strength and vehemence of love has this trait: everything seems possible to it.”
As proof thereof: I just heard voices outside. I looked and there is my ex, with lap dog in hand, talking to a young, stunningly beautiful black haired, knock down beautiful woman in a black, full length evening dress. I don’t know who she is but the-sixty-five year old grandlover and the twenty-ish lover remind me of the revolution coming. The body language and hand gestures. of these two women is awesome to behold. They just hugged, with smiles and nodding of the head and heart, as womem lovers are wont to do. The younger is driving a black Lexus, and my red-hair ex is doing what she does best: expounding on the benefits of the green revolution.
Haha,unless you are talking about the revolution of “gay love” sweeping the West. I fear you will be sadly disappointed waiting for a revolution of love. We’ve been waiting for over 2,000 years now for the “meek to inherit the earth”. And still without any sign of that. I doubt I have much more time to wait for that one. Let alone a “World of love” supposed to happen.
I agree with that, Bob, in the sense that it is a little “magical” to take a nice experience in one’s vicinity as a sign that times are changing.
It may pick up one’s spirits, but one must realize one being, one’s self is not the center of the Universe, and that something needs to reach aggregate (not personal, local) proportions before it is world-changing.
The Brexit vote is aggregate. And when Dennis thinks about it, he’ll realize that that should make him feel 50 million times more optimistic of change than a couple of beautiful females interacting near enough for his eyes and ears to pick up what they are doing.
Tried to make it clear that I never heard of David Livingstone before in my life, and hadn’t even read his tour de force before hurriedly responding to Elsi.much earlier Thursday Something else I wrote many hours after, when I did see Livingstone article was kicked out evidently. No worries. I accept that my feelings are secondary to the judgment of Saker mod or Saker himself who have an overview I don’t have popping in and out today, 95% out.
Discernment, guys, discernment, discernment, discernement. And that includes Mr Livingston or Anonymous posting for him. Just barging in, completely unfamiliar and unknown and laying all that out with no dialogue in one huge load? Not a very good idea, in my opinion. Goodnight. 11 pm West coast time Thursday.
Dear Uncle Bob
Please do not give up on hope! I am myself quite desperate at times, maybe that’s the reason I can’t stand to see others loosing hope. We will do it! you and all will see it, we know because He who came to tell us so and many others are working very hard to help us go throught it. We have to do our part, as Dennis and Saker and yourself are doing, Dennis reporting on this fantastic army, Saker with his highly valuable analysis, you with your clever opinions and thught as so many in here…we will!
Thank you for your kind words I appreciate them. But please don’t get me wrong. I’m not giving up on hope. I’ve never had hope of that to begin with. I’ve read too much of history to believe something like that possible. So I never hoped for it in the first place. There are many things in the World I have hope of being possible. And some I’ve lost hope of. But seeing our World suddenly turn into a World of love I never have believed possible.Sadly its just not a part of the human condition.Individuals can hope for,or find love. But the World’s population as a “group”,just not possible.
Watching the updates on the Brexit referendum and I see the have a good method of getting the right outcome. They are sorted into leave, remain and “doubtful”. I guess the will end up a lot of exit votes in the doubtful pile. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-result-live-counting-leave-remain-brain-in-europe?page=with:block-576c9a71e4b030d83eb4a077#block-576c9a71e4b030d83eb4a077
Five Minutes of Common Sense with Ruslan Ostashko: Is there space for Nord Stream-2 in Europe’s Heart
(Another outstanding 5 mins with The Saker fave, Ostashko! While I agree with him, I just have to add given the immense power that oligarchs seem to have in Russia today, he can no longer claim such absolute pristine motives for Russia.)
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/06/five-minutes-of-common-sense-is-there.html
http://politrussia.com/ekonomika/pyatiminutka-zdravogo-smysla-639/
“I often have the feeling that many of our fellow citizens don’t understand the essence of our policy towards Europe. But the essence is in fact simple and proceeds from the understanding that we need to crush the Western anti-Russian front. I understand that nothing is impossible for couch patriots, and that they would gladly have gone for a “fierce fight” against the whole world. However, fortunately, there are no such idiots in the Kremlin and our diplomats are working hard to effectively split the EU and not allow anti-Russian forces, for the third time in a hundred years, to use Europeans as a battering ram against Russia. Achieving this result is possible in in only one way – it is necessary to operator with a correct understanding of European logic and the particularities of European thinking.
I’m going to say something that will really hurt our Russian Europhiles and Westernizers, but the truth is a stubborn thing. The truth is that European politics and their elite are built slightly different than we are, and this must be understood. For example, where we have a heart, they have a wallet. Where we have a brain, they have… a wallet again. The conscience of European politicians is not somewhere close to the soul, but in the purse, crumpled up somewhere between a credit card and a fitness center membership. In general, European politics is an overgrown wallet with a masters degree and a large ego. This understanding is used by the professional intelligence officer Vladimir Putin.
Russian media have now suddenly discovered what European media have been writing about for several months already. As it turns out, despite US pressure, the Nord Stream-2 project has been personally lobbied by Angela Merkel. She has already stated that the project is purely commercial and not political, as confirmed by the US, Ukraine, Poland, and other countries sick with incurable Russophobia.
In addition, Merkel has met with Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico, who up until now opposed the laying of the new pipeline and even signed letters demanding to ban it. Media have also reported that the German chancellor has promised to compensate for Slovakia’s losses from gas transit reduction in exchange for supporting Nord Stream-2. The last bastion of resistance is Poland, which rightly suspects that after this projects launch, it will have to buy gas from Germany, which will be expensive. At the official level, Warsaw is still opposed, but it has already begun negotiations with the German company BASF which is a shareholder of Nord Stream-2. Poland wants to buy 11 billion cubic meters of gas per year with a small discount, but this gas is supposed to be delivered via Nord Stream-2, which Poland has actively protested. Schizophrenia? No! The Poles just want to exchange their support for discounts from the gas pipeline which they know will be built anyway. As is evident even in the case of Poland, money beats even Russophobia.
The recent statement of the German Minister of Foreign Affairs, who opposed NATO’s exercises on the border with Russia, is also a sign that the Germans have come to the conclusion that they don’t obtain anything but problems from confrontation with Russia, whereas there is much to be gained from cooperation. Who knows, maybe the lesson of the Second World War was not in vain.
If everything goos well, then the main victim of Berlin’s epiphany will be Kiev, and the point here is not even those billions of dollars which it would lose over reduced gas transit. Without gas transit status, Ukraine is deprived of its main instrument for blackmailing Europe and loses much of its appeal to the Americans. The Maidan was orchestrated by the Americans in order to involve Russia in a war with Europe, so that a NATO base could be established in Crimea, and so that the Americans would have the opportunity to, if necessary, cut Europe off from Russian gas. They didn’t take Crimea, war with Europe never happened, and now the last threat, Ukrainian gas transit, is all that remains, which is about to be cut by the efforts of our European business partners. And after this the most interesting will begin, but that’s a topic for another discussion.”
@ S113
Very kind of you to post the whole article. And I fully agree with you and your reservations as to Putin’s “pristine motives”.
From the start of the Ukraine imbroglio I could detect clear signs that energy was the main target, with some ancillary benefits like Crimea and extending Nato’s overreach to the Russian border to completely encircle it on the western front, considering that Bielorussia is part of the Russian defensive perimeter.
Russia’s economy and budget are heavily dependent on gas and oil, the Achilles heel as well as the prime mover for Russia’s development, and even survival, given the Azion Empire’s insatiable appetite for more victims to sustain its dominance. Therefore, the de facto conquest of Ukraine meant, among the other objectives, the acquisition of the means to control the supply of gas to Europe and create the conditions for anti-Russia sentiments and economic sanctions, particularly if the conflict came to blows. The Kremlin was obviously aware of it, hence its efforts to diversify the transit for new pipelines through Nord Stream, Bulgaria, and later Turkey. It is in this context that the Syrian conflict and Russian intervention there that can be understood too.
Nord Stream offers a safe alternative but brings its own problems too considering the German ambiguous diplomatic messages. The EU is frantically searching for other sources of oil and gas to lessen its dependency on Russian supplies. The Syrian corridor has effectively been shut to Qatar’s dream of reaching the European market whether the “Assad must go” crowd win or lose but it doesn’t mean that they have given up the search for alternatives and, if they do, and the EU maintains its belligerence towards Russia, Nord Stream can also be shut off and Russia left out in the cold. It’s a two-edge sword.
Kim
Hi Kim,
Very astute observations – and a great follow up to the 5 mins piece.
The only comment I’d add is that the “German ambiguous diplomatic messages” are for us peasants, the common folk. :-) I’m sure in those recent meetings with China, Iran and others, they speak in very specific terms.
I may have to “eat a bit of crow”. It appears so far (still never underestimate the elites ability to rig a vote) that the majority in the UK has voted to exit the EU. Personally if true I’m overjoyed. But it also appears the elite is arranging to destroy the British economy to “punish” the people for voting the way they “didn’t ” want them to. Basically they are saying to the nations people ,”you obey us ,or we will punish you for voting for freedom”. If nothing else this should make it crystal clear to thinking people that you must take control of your economy from the elite if you want to have freedom. No other choice is available.Never ever should an elite of wealthy plutocrats be able to dictate the peoples will. And if they try. It is “they” who must be punished for it,not the people.
Yes, I reloaded gold price, usd against gbp, usd against eur and gbp against eur every 10 seconds during the past 12 hours, plus live tickers at zh and the telegraph.
It’s a wonder and the best day in my life!!!!!
At the same time: Not only buying power via gbp and also a lower eur, but much more dangerous developments may arise as Scotland voted something like 70% for remain.
Now SinFain demands the repitition of the Scotland referendum.
I hope with my hearth that the Cabal won’t use this to start a bloody civil war a’la Ireland :(
Nevertheless – I’m so happy.
I hardly dared to dream that I may still in my life experience such a day))))))))))))))))))))
@ Martin fr SEB
Congratulations to you, who fought ceaselessly for Brexit! Who’s next?
@ Uncle Bob
Congratulations! The longest journey starts with a small step. (Mao Tse Tung, I don’t like the new name)
My explanation why the popular vote is allowed to stand it’s because the referendum was not a party contest because both main parties were deeply fractured between the Leave and Remain camps, therefore with no party-led commitment to either result.
Besides, the referendum is not final. Both the government and parliament (all politicians of course) can, legally, ignore the vote and proceed with business as usual. For instance, Cameron may twist the meaning of the vote and say that now he has a strong mandate to renegotiate the terms of British membership of the EU! .
Let’s hope this is the beginning for big changes to come. Putin must be elated! Maybe he might be accused of engineering Brexit!
Kim
@ Uncle B:
“I may have to “eat a bit of crow”.
Don’t be so hard on yourself! We all saw this pan out wrongly and people being cheated out of their vote, time and time again.
I too predicted this referendum would go south. I, for one, am more than delighted to have been wrong! I love it! It’s fantastic!
But let’s not kid ourselves either; this is just a small step in the right direction; the big work still lays ahead 1- the dismantling of the EU -2 the dismantling of NATO and ultimately 3- the dismantling of the NWO.
Hopefully others will join-in; Netherlands, Czech Republic, France, Spain, Italy (etc). On the plus side we already have Switzerland and UK in the bag.
For once, today, I choose to see it as things are looking up for a change, instead of looking increasingly worse by the day. And we don’t really know what tomorrow will bring, maybe the treacherous UK government will drag their feet about actually exiting ASP, maybe the autocrats in Brussels will either try to bribe or blackmail their way through for the UK staying in, who knows?
Scameron resigned, yes, but that won’t be official until October. Many things can happen between now and then. Plus, both campaigns – Remain and Leave – were led mainly by Tories (Conservatives). Effectively doing a preemptive strike on shutting down any debate about a vote of no-confidence (in case Leave wins) which would have triggered a call for general elections.
And that was rigged too. There were two contesting Brexit groups to be the official one. Vote Leave, mostly infested by self-promoting Tories (and the one that won under very dubious circumstances) and GO [Grassroots Out] led by Farage which included a wide selection of cross-parties members.
A prominent (and wealthy) supporter of GO, was willing to legally contest the choosing of Vote Leave over GO, and pay it all out of his own pocket, but he didn’t do it, because doing so, would have postponed the referendum date itself.
So there are plenty of unanswered questions there. But, never the less, we all have to learn to be more like Farage himself. In the face of so much BS they threw at him, and how much they’ve attempted to thwart him at every opportunity through-out this entire Brexit campaign; he just knew what battles to fight, and what battles to walk away from, all the time keeping his eyes on the prize.
He was the first high-profile politician to call it for Brexit at around 4 AM in the morning (while the votes were still being counted). Most presstitutes reacted by saying slagging him off and saying he was calling it too prematurely AND that he should be forced to step down as UKIP party leader, if he’s proven wrong. Well! I’m sure all those idiots are chewing their own ties right now just like deranged Saakashvili.
On the other hand; it took both: Scameron, and that buffoon of a person (so-called leader of the Brexit campaign) Boris Johnson, hours and hours to came out of their hiding places before they came out with a statement.
D!cks! Both of them!
-TL2Q
Well now that it appears the UK has voted to exit the EU,the future of Britain will depend on the leaders to follow Cameron (if as expected he resigns). If they work for the nation of Britain,instead of the global elite. Britain and her people can progress just fine. But if Britain is stuck with the same type of stooges as at present. Then they will work to destroy Britain for “daring” to defy them.This needs to be a “defining moment” in Britain. To return their sovereignty to their people. Its been an age old tactic of the elite to try and destroy the economy of a “rebellious” state. Right after the Russian Revolution it was tried in Russia as well. The bourgeoisie thought they could bring the Bolsheviks down by crashing the economy. Most essential services serving society were privately owned. And their plans were to have a “reverse” strike. Where the owners and managers would stop the factories and services such as the Telephone, Telegraph stations,and Electrical plants from working. The Bolsheviks not bound by bourgeoisie “niceties” send armed troops to those places and gave them the choice of continuing the work,or prison and the firing squad. Needless to say the services continued to function, and the bourgeoisie failed in their plans. An important point to think of when we see the elite attempting today to harm the British economy.
@ Uncle Bob
“The Bolsheviks not bound by bourgeois niceties…”
Indeed, they were a bit rough sometimes; but they were helped a lot by the workers, who did not need any urgings from the party to start occupations of workplaces. The Kulaks were a hard nut to crack though – they even burnt the crops instead of selling them to the government at the fixed price. Most got their comeuppance.
Kim
well, the night before the UK referendum we had terrific storms and rain which continued in the day, maybe nature picking up the peoples emotions at this critical time and saying lets have together a great cleansing
brings to mind parts of King Lears speech, he a “failed politician in his way, playing off one party against another and unable to percieve truth versus treavhery
“Blow, winds, and crack your cheeks! rage! blow!
You cataracts and hurricanoes, spout
Till you have drench’d our steeples, drown’d the cocks!
You sulphurous and thought-executing fires,
Vaunt-couriers to oak-cleaving thunderbolts,
Singe my white head! And thou, all-shaking thunder,
Smite flat the thick rotundity o’ the world!
Crack nature’s moulds, an germens spill at once,
That make ingrateful man!’
later the “fool ” says
“This is a brave night to cool a courtezan.
I’ll speak a prophecy ere I go:
When priests are more in word than matter;
When brewers mar their malt with water;
When nobles are their tailors’ tutors;
No heretics burn’d, but wenches’ suitors;
When every case in law is right;
No squire in debt, nor no poor knight;
When slanders do not live in tongues;
Nor cutpurses come not to throngs;
When usurers tell their gold i’ the field;
And bawds and whores do churches build;
Then shall the realm of Albion
Come to great confusion:
Then comes the time, who lives to see’t,
That going shall be used with feet.
This prophecy Merlin shall make; for I live before his time.”
Resonates with anyone??
@ JJ
“Resonates with anyone?”
Yes, with me, but I’m not in a poetic mood, still flummoxed by the English (it was the English vote that won the day)! So, there is still some of the old grit left.
Cheers
Lear? good. more leer and less leer –here! hear , hear!
Uk Prime Minister Cameron just announced retirement before October-remember he is one of those that whip up anti Russian hysteria…….
“(The Daily Mail)- MI6 and British police are investigating alleged attacks on civilians by Russian war planes in Syria – with a view to prosecuting President Vladimir Putin for war crimes, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.
Scotland Yard detectives have flown to Lebanon to monitor air strikes in neighbouring Syria – amid claims that Russian bombers have caused hundreds of casualties by targeting hospitals and schools.
Medical charities and human rights groups have already condemned the bombing of civilians in areas controlled by Syrian rebels who oppose the regime of President Bashar al-Assad, Putin’s ally.
Now the MoS can reveal that intelligence services are compiling a secret dossier of specific assaults, which could lead to the Russian President facing allegations of crimes against humanity at an international tribunal.
The revelation comes after Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond warned Moscow last month that strikes on hospitals ‘could amount to war crimes’. Last night, Foreign Office sources confirmed that the UK is ‘closely monitoring the situation’ in Syria.
The MoS understands that British investigators, including detectives from the Metropolitan Police Service’s war crimes unit, are at the British Embassy in Beirut.”
If true,that may just be the “straw that breaks the camels back”. If I was the Russians I’d assemble a Russian court to bring war-crimes charges against those Western leaders involved in that insane idea. And order Russian special service troops to take them into custody .On the basis of a “Dead or Alive” policy. The time has passed for playing “nice” with those clowns. And justice needs to be rendered in the most harsh manner applicable.
Maybe rus and jointly with chinese forces as the new world order of international standards of peace and justice take away Blair to the Hague after the Chilcott enquiry findings?
@ JJ
You are a wonderful source of bad news! We are still exulting from your previous post (where Nature joined with the forces of Good and forced many Remainers to remain at home instead of voting) now dampened by the news that our (temporary) hero is on the Scotland Yard’s most wanted list and might end up in the Hague.
Before that, I would suggest that the Caspian Sea corvettes be deployed to the North Sea (no need to attract attention on a long journey to the Med and Atlantic, as they, being smallish, can go up the Volga, take a canal north to Lake Onega, then turn west into the Svir River leading to Lake Ladoga and then to the Neva River to Leningrad and the Baltic) and they should be within range to send a salvo of Kalibrs to the Scotland Yard’s head office, GPS coordinates being 51 29′ 59.4″ N; 0 .04′ .02 W. No responsibility taken for collateral damage if the coordinates lack in precision though.
Kim
!!!!!!!!!!!
It might just be enough for a rus submarine to pretend to be swedish beneath the surface of the rather shallow english channel if we can still call it that and head to a nato spanish port and go right past Gibralter….? Or go up to the Thames and collect Cameron to join up with the ghosts of Burgess and Maclean to be awarded a medal or two as having achieved a brexit according to Pres Putins plans???????
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Can somebody explain to me?
There was a vote in UK in which the people voted to leave Europe. And now the rest of EU says: Leave now, the February agreement is now gone and so on….
But my question is: Has the British Parliament made a decision to leave? The government? They are still free to follow or not follow the voting, aren’t they?
Why is the reaction like if the British government has decided about it?
Tegularius on June 24, 2016 · at 3:09 pm UTC
But my question is: Has the British Parliament made a decision to leave? The government? They are still free to follow or not follow the voting, aren’t they?
Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, the establishment of a formal process to leave the EU, needs to be invoked. This cannot be done without Brexit legislation passed by British Parliament.
Which means that all this fuzz we hear — I have for example been listening to RT the whole day — is not really based on anything. The British government might just say Oh what the heck, let’s just forget about it.
Aside from media wanting to sell a lot of news, I can’t understand how anybody can be upset/engaged about the question of the consequences just yet.
On the other hand I think that the poll result was encouraging for different reasons, and personally I believe that even more people than 52% voted Leave. If it would have been more even I think they would have decided to rig the result in favour of Remain, because in that case it would be difficult for people in general to suspect something fishy.
But I think that so many people were pro-brexit, the whole of Wales and Sheffield that were expected to vote Remain, voted Leave, an area usually used as “average voter”-place had 66% Leave-votes. So when such an overwhelming majority voted leave, it would be impossible to rig the result in favour ov Remain, but I think that they have changed the numbers so not to show how big differnce there is between people and leaders.
Tegularius on June 24, 2016 · at 5:25 pm UTC
Aside from media wanting to sell a lot of news, I can’t understand how anybody can be upset/engaged about the question of the consequences just yet.
The global banking system is at risk. The G20 central banks pumped trillions into the banking system since London open this morning. The ECB moved sovereign (Greece, Spain, Italy) bonds onto it’s balance sheet in the first two hours of European trading this morning. The ECB has no mandate for it. Draghi just did it! Japanese Pension funds lost 8% of it’s balance sheet last night in Asia. Gold accounts jumped by 200% in twelve hours in China last night. I could go on about the consequences. There is mayhem and the public is clueless; so is the media.
Thank you for this information, but I still don’t understand. Nothing has been decided in the British parliament. Aside from the people saying what they want (which has never been respected before, so why now?), nothing has happened, but still all this that you mentioned is going on. There must be other factors that have triggered these massive actions (not re-actions, since nothing has happened)
And now I saw that the idiot Carl Bildt is deriding the Brexit leaders for not acting fast enough to get out of EU. Of course he is a jerk, but he has a lot of influence and is heavily in the “establishment” so he doesn’t say anything outside the script. So just 12 hours after the result, and without the parliament have been voting, he is pushing this “get out”-thing (as are the rest of the Brussels people).
What I am saying is: from what plan has all these activities appeared? So much is happening so quickly in global economy, whithout any appearent reason.
But maybe it is true what somebody suggested, that all this economic turbulence was already planned, and now it is only blamed on the British voters, and the coming months that will be used to miscredit everyone that had supported brexit. And the “script” probably included that Putin was expected to say something favourable about brexit, and thus he could be blamed. “Unfortunately” for them, he didn’t say anything, so that plan failed….
Tegularius on June 24, 2016 · at 6:57 pm UTC
What I am saying is: from what plan has all these activities appeared?
The referendum on the UK’s withdrawal from the EU is a result of a split in the British elites. The British elites are three groups:
— Rothschild
— Rockefeller (represented in London by JP Morgan aka Morgan Stanley)
— Soros Hedge Funds
The Rothschild group wants to kill the $US as reserve currency and align itself wirh China, India and Russia. The Rockefeller group wants to keep the $US as reserve currency and supports TTIP / TPP. The Soros Hedge Funds group wants Eurobonds guaranteed with Germany’s credit card.
All three groups are directly opposed in their objectives and have manipulated the BREXIT referendum. For instance Soros Hedge Funds paid for polls to give the impression the Remain side is leading. The Rockefeller group got Obama to visit the UK and support the Remain camp. The Rothschild group got the UK press (tabloids) to support the Leave camp.
There are already rumblings of punitive actions against the Brits from the Rockefellers in the US of Pindostan (Wall Street).
The British public decides nothing. It’s the above three groups who fight it out. And it is not going to be pretty.
Wow — thank you so much for this info! Comes in handy while observing how things evolve. Anything more that you would like to add will be appreciated by me.
I guess that all these economic moves had been planned for a long time by each of those competitors, and as soon as it was all “go” (using the referendum as cue and scapegoat) they just started the game, and now they play it as it evolves — with us as the pawns.
Quickly looking at the maps, it is the old anglo saxon and viking areas of east and northern england that definitely were keen to leave, outer regions of Wales and old industrial heartlands where the older generations from the industrial revolution still remain, and older centres of immigrants refugees from coupla hundred years ago settled……interesting? Maybe there is a sociologist here that can pick that up…….the denigration of our old industrial areas seem to be asserting themselves against the modern political and international cenre that is London?
Hence “red “faces in Labour that maybe increasingly does not represent the former, maybe Labour Nd Cons will be forced to break up as both contain for and against…could be interesting?
I have been anxiously awaiting Anonymous June 22 at 3:31 pm return so I could ask him or her, “Dr Livingston, I presume? ” https://www.awesomestories.com/asset/view/-Dr.-Livingstone-I-Presume-
Still not sufficient time to analyze this psycho-ordinance but I think Straight Bat’s comment was the most apropos: What is missing is far, far more indicative of motive than the mish mash of stuff that is included.
I can’t keep on the lookout much for the next 7-8 days, so I relinquish the famous quote to whoever wishes to use it.
The Brits vote Brexit? Somehow this will all be Putin’s fault and Russia will be made to pay. Meanwhile back in London, there will be delay, delay dealy. Why wait? Cameron’s government should fall by loss of a vote of confidence.
I’m feeling grateful, for my ex who just left again, doing her thing; for the Brexit event, for the comments above, for the Russians and for love.
Am I placing too much hope in a “little magical, nice experience of two females?” No, that’s where love begins: with two females: mother and child, and more originary than that: with the Lover herself.
Some express doubt that love can prevail in groups; while thinking it is possible with individuals. Bro says we need the aggregate, and that the self is not the center of the universe. I agree. To see the problem and solution, we need discernment.
Jesus preached love, as an individual himself, and advocated for group love, which happened with the first Christians who lived a communal love, excluding sex; but it didn’t last due to problems that were not addressed. Sex is always the core issue, but in a patriarchal society, sex is deeply suppressed, largely using “love” as a cover and substitute.
The first big problem is the “God is Love” dogma, stated by Saint John, and followed by the church fathers, which Saker is I assume working with now on his thesis. That dogma has to be “discerned” for its good and ill effects. It’s pretty clear by now that the God is Love dogma, has not worked after 2000 years of testing. Sure, there are individual saints, but at the group level it is another story.
I just want to tag that idea for now. It is way too loaded to open up suddenly. As time goes on, it must be addressed. The church fathers developed Christian dogma, so there is no reason that we cannot develop what they developed. And we can do it right here in the vineyard way better than academics who have a vested interest in not investigating it. I like the church father, Denys or Dionysus, who developed dogma by using the divine names, of which Love is prominent. We need not throw out the baby Patriarchy with its bathwater. We proceed slowly like nature, which is love in slow motion.
That’s the first big problem that has to be addressed if we care about saving anything at all. The second big problem is new age thinking which leads to the excesses and perversions of culture, especially, and again, regarding sex, and her sister, love.
The new age dogma, put in the mouth of Jesus himself, is to love oneself, and “love one’s neighbor as oneself.” I say it is the chief new age dogma but it has roots that go all the way back to the beginnings of patriarchy. Trying to love oneself is self-defeating and leads to self-hatred, other-hatred and war. As noted here, “the self is not the center of the universe.”
The center is Love, real love. Without Love as the center of our thinking and actions, we end up with vanity, nihilism and boredom, expressed in wars of all sorts. Doubt about love, as expressed here, is a good sign, because it indicates we are thinking about it. There is a reason why the English term love is so popular, and why it showed up at the core of Christianity, and still is in all religions and societies of any substance.
I was trained as a Christian, became a Catholic priest and monk and afterwards developed past that, became a new age priest and initiate. I didn’t stop there but kept developing, not without hard knocks, trials and tribulations; and doubts producing high anxiety states, all along the way to where I am now.
Trying to love myself or God was valuable, but it was a developmental process to getting where I am today, going directly to Love. Will I proceed past love? I don’t know; I’m not there. I am going to have to test love in the real world to find out. What could be more real in this world than the war going on between Russia and the Rest?
Russia has Orthodox Christianity as one of he main supports. She also has a huge land mass in the north, and some allies. But precisely because of her strengths, she is weak and vulnerable. By that I mean she can be overconfident, as the Christians before her. The empire can come in a Trojan horse. I believe Russia has to develop her own sovereignty and her own version of humanity, using Christianity but not being trapped by it.
Russia is gifted with astute thinkers, as the church fathers and their students, like the Saker. But we are all needed to keep pace with the changing world; or rather keep one step ahead of it. When the war is won and done, the big danger of blind overconfidence will set in, which will open the door to a new brand of evilarchy.
Love is the only word that is small enough and big enough to penetrate and embrace (sexuality intended) all our small selves, so hopelessly lost and confused. So when I see an older grandlover and a younger potential mother embracing, I see also see the starry heavens in a grain of sand.
There is little doubt that this venerable vineyard has the potential to change the course of history back to its herstory, and then into ourstory. Who else can do it? Can you think of any other group with the qualifications of the mavericks here? I can’t.
Very very nice last sentance Dennis.
After the Brexit it seems we are for the Brexit as many questions remain unanswered.Good to see Strait-Bat and elsi again within this Cafe. Here is a summary of today story :
Brexit Option
I’ve been late, sorry guys
Couldn’t believe my eyes
Seeing the Brexit option
Martin and his reaction
Uncle Bob gets overjoyed
Kim suggests, he’s annoyed
JJ getting into verses ? done.
Resonates with anyone ??
T thirteen wants to hear,here
Lear ? more leer and less leer
Tegularius has a blame
Could somebody explain ?
Metatrader intervening
Everything has a meaning.
After such a British exit
Who will come to fix it ?
LoL! This keeps getting better and better…
“Hillary Clinton is a crook”, says Britain’s Nigel Farage (VIDEO)
http://theduran.com/hillary-clinton-crook-says-britains-nigel-farage-video/
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^ You’ve got that straight Nige, you got that straight :)
-TL2Q
@TooLegit2Quit
Hitlery Clinton and Bubba are crooks?
Naw…. you’re kidding right? I can’t believe it! Because I’m trained Democrat femnazi conditioned liberal useful idiot mainstream-media trained monkey.
Please don’t say these hurtful words about my Democratic party goddess and dear-leader Hitlery -Psychopath- Clinton!
It’s getting crazier, imagine how the MSM narrative would have labeled them as bad loser in the opposite case:
‘F**k Brexit rally’: Pro-remain campaigners call for mass protest at Houses of Parliament
https://www.rt.com/uk/348294-fk-brexit-rally-remain/
And for the US there is also some hope for some crubling:
From Brexit to Texit: Texas secession movement targets 2018 ballot
https://www.rt.com/usa/348303-brexit-texit-texas-secession/
lot of brexit and donbass-stuff in the cafe
but also the poetry of all that in the quiet remor corner
of this cafeteria at the periphery of the large enough vineyard
to me the brexit was a first-time- in -life experience
like “please please me” 1962 in the reversed direction
today in my mind is Paul’s “here there and everwhere”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iELGhAGwBdc
1962 the genuin relocation of the youth of the planet and the beginning
of it’s devourment by transforming our unconsciousness into $
now exit off that “youth-world” by adult fourtees and fiftees
what a haul awaiting marica
according to amaricas total ignorance of the first LP of the Beatles
(18 Months) in England
but later coming the bigger
the elder are to become squares or humble heros
it’s no merrit to be beautifull or young