by Andrew Kahn
Voice of America Blog: http://akahnnyc.blogspot.com
Twitter: @akahnnyc
It feels practically like déjà vu. Once more President Obama has reached an agreement with one of the proclaimed threats to the United States – first it was Cuba, now Iran. So it is that following on the heels of a shaky rapprochement with Cuba, we see that the United States has reached a tentative agreement – in conjunction with the P5+1 group – with Iran regarding that country’s nuclear program.
The question is what this agreement has done, if anything, and what it may lead to in the future. As we know with the United States’ realpolitik as regards Cuba, there is always more than meets the eye and there is never a simple agreement made. What, then, is the story behind the story with the Lausanne Agreement regarding Iran?
First we need to step back a moment and see where things have been in the recent past. By recent, we must think a bit beyond the Rouhani administration and start at least with the leadership of Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh. We cannot divorce the current situation in Iran and the world without first briefly recalling the event of the recent past. In the case of the democratically-elected Mossadegh, the CIA refused to accept his independent policies especially as related to nationalized industry, and his toppling led to the ascension of the dictatorship of the Shah.
Moving from the Western-backed Shah, Iran experienced the Islamic Revolution and since that period we have seen nothing but tension between the United States and Iran punctuated by the US support for Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Iran and the continuous diplomatic attacks by the United States as well as pervasive and damaging sanctions. For the United States, an independent Iran – one that counters United States-Saudi-Israeli regional domination – is a threat.
Lost within the Western rhetoric of the present discussion regarding the Lausanne Agreement is the fact that the nuclear program of Iran in its current form poses no threat to the United States or even to the security of the nuclear-armed Israel. The discussion presupposes that Iran has a nuclear program that is a threat in some form. While it occasionally breaks through – and indeed is recognized by those better briefed in intelligence matters – the reality of Iran’s fatwas against nuclear weaponry and the fact that at no time has Iran done anything more with its nuclear program than mere civilian use is hidden. Rather, the Western populace is bombarded with talk of the so-called breakout time of Iran’s nuclear program and amateurish and utterly mendacious charts paraded by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
The whole debate has been strategically positioned to view Iran’s nuclear program as an imminent threat that must be countered. Thus, the discussion, and indeed the negotiations between P5+1 and Iran, has been prejudiced from the outset. Iran, which it must be repeated has not threatened to develop nuclear weapons, is the threat while countries such as Israel – which has nuclear arms – and the United States – which has used nuclear weapons – are somehow the innocent lambs being threatened by the angry Islamist Iran wolf.
The threat is not nuclear. Please repeat this. The threat is not nuclear. Let us be clear about this and repeat it once more. The threat is not nuclear. When Israel felt threatened by Saddam Hussein, it did what any self-respecting Zionist state would do – it bombed Iraq. When Israel felt threatened by Hamas rockets, it did what any self-respecting colonial government would do – it bombed innocent children. But with Iran, Israel realizes there is no threat from nuclear weapons. And thus? It sits back, yells about a threat and pushes a game of trying to chip away at Iranian independence with its imperial ally in Washington. The threat is not nuclear.
The threat is not nuclear but rather the threat is one of non-nuclear influence in the region and one of solidarity with the resistance groups of Palestine, Yemen, Syria and Lebanon. The simplistic canard is that Iran is pushing arms to everyone and plotting for the Second Holocaust versus World Jewry based on a falsely translated quote of former President Ahmadinejad who was paraphrasing a quote from Iran’s Supreme Leader. Clearly, the canard has credence for those who have no interest in reality however.
Iran simply wishes to live peaceably – please ask yourself which country Iran has invaded – and free from foreign attacks on its economic and cultural sovereignty.
But the threat is real – the threat of influence and independence. As is the case with Cuba, Venezuela, Russia and any other country that does not simply kowtow to US demands, Iran must understand that its independence cannot be fully accepted. They are just a brown country that must allow the benefits of white freedom to shine down on it. Yet Iran has not accepted that and for this reason the phantom threat of nuclear weapons was needed.
In a roundabout way, we return to Lausanne and the prejudiced basis on which the talks began.
First of all, the Lausanne Agreement is merely an agreement. It is not a binding document or treaty or final plan for Iran’s nuclear program. It is the end of a beginning of a part of a multifaceted conflict between Iran and the United States and its allies. Of course, all problems are solved with first steps but before anyone gets too excited it’s important to remember that the two sides agreed to continue talking and working towards a summer date to have a written legal agreement and to have Iranian ink on the same page as US ink.
To digress again, the dispute is created by the United States and perpetuated by it with the other P5+1 nations and Iran being dragged along for the ride of United States imperialism. Do not imagine that Russia, China, England, France or Germany want a continued sanction-ridden Iran.
So the Lausanne Agreement is perhaps nothing more than a trial balloon that was sent up by Iran and the United States to see how it plays in their respective countries before the real work of a final settlement commences. And this is really all the Lausanne Agreement is for now – a trial balloon, but one that is relevant for the purposes of what both sides are purportedly willing to offer in negotiations and also for the reactions to the agreement from various global sectors. Additionally, the Agreement raises several questions as to what will happen if the final negotiations and settlement will be close to a compilation of the various points that the two sides have spoken of in their respective comments in the wake of the Agreement.
In the immediate aftermath of the Agreement, the United States released a Fact Sheet detailing what it stated were the relevant portions of the Agreement. In a world where everything is scrutinized immediately and in real time, the Fact Sheet was hailed by all as a success for diplomacy. On careful inspection however, some analysts quietly noted that based on the information provided in the Fact Sheet, it was a rather resounding success for the United States. Indeed, I myself viewed it in this light as well and was critical of the alleged terms of the deal.
The media was declaring a fair deal that would limit Iran’s nuclear capabilities while providing needed sanctions relief. The Western media showed pictures of a hero’s welcome for Iranian officials returning to Tehran and announced that the people of Iran had spontaneously celebrated in the streets of Iran in support of the “success”. In reality, the celebrations appeared rather on the small side, looking much less populated than Friday Prayers. Noticeably absent from the reports was any information as to what segment of the Iranian population was celebrating – was this urban liberals who have been pushing for warm relations with the West or was it the majority working class population?
Israeli and United States conservatives led harsh criticism of the apparent deal spearheaded by the denunciations by Benjamin Netanyahu and his cabinet. The Western media lumped these war criminals in the same sentence as Iranian “hardliners” who began to criticize the deal as well based upon the terms noted in the United States’ Fact Sheet. To the imperial pragmatism of the Western media, Iranian national concern over potentially damaging terms was on par with the fascist ravings of Netanyahu.
Inspection of the fact sheet did however give credence to the concerns of the Iranian “hardliners”. According to the Fact Sheet, Iran will be required to significantly roll back its nuclear program – again, recall, it is one that has historically been peaceful – while agreeing to what analysts noted were unprecedentedly stringent and intrusive inspection by the IAEA. Its nuclear research sites would lose the majority of its centrifuges, nuclear material would be shipped outside the country, while nuclear technology that had been previously developed would be ended and nuclear technology would only be allowed at a basic level that Iran had a decade prior. Research and development would be severely constrained. So-called breakout time to a nuclear weapon would be increased to at least a 1-year period. Inspections would apparently be allowed at any site and talk was that any Iranian military site would be inspectable even if no probable cause existed that the site was producing nuclear weapons; a simple desire to spy would allow for inspection.
And what would Iran receive in return? The hope for sanctions relief. Sanctions relief would not come immediately and it would be relief solely from nuclear-related sanctions. Indeed, sanctions related to ballistic weapons and support for regional resistance groups would remain fully in place. This was according to the Fact Sheet. In some degree of contradiction, the joint statement between EU Representative Federica Mogherini and Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif noted:
The EU will terminate the implementation of all nuclear-related economic and financial sanctions and the US will cease the application of all nuclear-related secondary economic and financial sanctions, simultaneously with the IAEA-verified implementation by Iran of its key nuclear commitments. A new UN Security Council Resolution will endorse the JCPOA, terminate all previous nuclear-related resolutions and incorporate certain restrictive measures for a mutually agreed period of time. (Source: http://eeas.europa.eu/)
According to the above statement, it appears as if UNSC sanctions would terminate upon final agreement (JCPOA), while EU and US sanctions would cease when the IAEA verified that Iran had implemented nuclear commitments. In essence, from the Mogherini-Zarif statement, there would be no immediate end to sanctions by all parties – this would create a situation similar to Cuba where UNSC sanctions are not present but United States (and in this case, EU) sanctions would be present.
Following the Agreement, Iran’s Foreign Ministry continuously claimed – rather incongruously – that all sanctions would terminate immediately. One can see this to be an incorrect reading even of the above statement co-issued by Iran’s Foreign Minister himself. The United States Fact Sheet cannot be trusted – something that Iran’s government has repeatedly stated – but it not possible to recognize the statements from Iran as being fully accurate either. One is led to the conclusion that either Javad Zarif was duped into co-approving the Mogherini Statement and did not understand what was being said or he had near-immediate buyers’ remorse and had to spin the statement to a more domestically palatable, if not completely truthful, manner.
Whichever the case – something history may later tell us – the issue remains that sanctions would not end immediately by all forces and neither would all sanctions end. In essence, Iran would trade the vast majority of its nuclear program in return for the hope of partial sanction relief.
Several points need to be clarified. First, the only sanctions that would be “terminated” would be UNSC sanctions and even this would be predicated on the UNSC voting to terminate sanctions and none of the permanent members vetoing the new resolution. Of course, this would include the United States and this is something that is far from guaranteed despite the United States being behind the deal in the first place.
Secondly, should the UNSC terminate nuclear-related sanctions, US and EU sanctions would remain and create a confused sanctions regime in which the US could decide to isolate and take punitive measures against countries that dealt with Iran as US sanctions remained despite UN sanctions being terminated.
Third, only nuclear-related sanctions will be lifted. Non-nuclear related sanctions will remain and this is a critical point to note but one that has been lost in the discussion of the agreement. The sanction stick will remain and will lead to Western powers – primarily the United States – in tailoring sanctions against Iran to various other reasons dealing with non-nuclear reasons such as support for Palestinian resistance groups, Houthi rebels, Hezbollah, development of ballistic weapons or any other concocted rationale to pressure Iran’s policies.
To repeat, this is not about nuclear weapons. Rather, the West is pretextually using the threat of nuclear weapons to leverage concessions from Iran on non-nuclear issues. Before this is dismissed as conspiracy theory – “But Iran really is a threat and this is an actual issue and your conspiracy is just nonsense because we wouldn’t hype a nuclear threat to get to some bigger goal” – one needs only to see the wheels spinning in the minds of top policymakers and realpolitik extraordinaires. As referenced in “Iran Nuclear Deal Likely to Increase US Regional Leverage” by geopolitical analyst Jim Lobe, the report, “Iran and Its Neighbors: Regional Implications for US Policy of a Nuclear Agreement”, such luminaries as Zbigniew Brzezinski and Brent Scowcroft among others laid out the case as to how a nuclear agreement will lead to movement in other regional issues that they see Iran as having their hand in.
To quote the report: “If the leaders of the United States and Iran are prepared to take on their domestic political opponents’ opposition to the agreement now taking shape, then their governments can turn to the broader agenda of regional issues.”
Indeed, the West sees an opportunity in President Rouhani after the tenure of President Ahmadinejad. In President Rouhani, they see someone who is willing to take on the establishment, his “domestic political opponents’ opposition”, to not merely nuclear issues but, long-term, regional issues which the report sees to include Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq. Additionally, they see President Rouhani as someone who has been very receptive to establishing privatization policies for Iran’s economy and opening the country to significant foreign investment. Unlike his predecessors, President Rouhani has stated a desire to end subsidies to the poor and reduce state influence in major national industries. Strategically located, Iran is a prize that the United States will not sit idly by and watch, as it would ally with a Russia-China axis. Lucrative indeed is trade with Iran and the West recognizes this clearly but will need to guarantee that a lifting of sanctions is not done haphazardly and uncontrolled by Western guardians. A sudden lifting of sanctions, unguided by procedures and a guarantee of bona fides towards Western interests would merely backfire in the face of the West. Thus it is that a slow lifting of sanctions – tied to geopolitical shifts in Iran’s policies – is required. And again, pragmatists in the West recognize that the first step in this process is pulling President Rouhani to their side and isolating the traditionalists and principalists within Iran that would continue an ideological policy regarding national interests – both on nuclear policy, domestic economic issues and regional alliances.
Looking at domestic economics and concurrent international economics, the salivation has already begun in an obvious alliance between urban Iranian neoliberals and foreign capital investors. The title of an April 6 report from the BBC – “Iran nuclear deal has hungry investors circling” – sums up the climate clearly. As the article notes:
Sanctions by the United States and the European Union on Iran’s financial, energy and trade sectors have held back the country once described as “the biggest untapped market before Mars and the Moon” by Martin Sorrel of advertising giant WPP. Some anticipate a “gold rush” once Iran’s 77-million-strong, highly educated, consumption-savvy market opens up.
Regionally as well there are significant questions that will arise if a nuclear deal would lead to a shift in Iran’s relations with the United States and general Western interests. A gradual sidelining of the traditionalists’ power and looking several years out to a possible US-induced color revolution leading to an urban elite neoliberal technocratic government, one can see the possibility of a weakened influence of the Gulf States’ current status as the United States’ favored mistress in the region. A potential shift in influence away from the Gulf States while still ruled by takfiri-supporting dictators, one can envision the unleashing of mercenary takfiri forces in the region with them now starring as putatively anti-Western forces as they fight for the spurned Gulf dictators.
And in Iran itself, will a potential nuclear deal temporarily sideline the reported interest of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad making a return to the political arena? Will a “solved” nuclear issue shove him to the side, as a hard line on the nuclear issue becomes “yesterday’s method”? One could see a temporary sidelining of his return, yet a later return fueled less by nuclear resistance to the West and rather by economics when the masses of Iranian people see in him the populist leader they need to save their families from neoliberal privatizations.
But again, the Lausanne Agreement is not binding. It was a framework agreement that we have already seen is being contested by both sides regarding what was agreed to. Perhaps it is merely a trial balloon. Already signs are being raised that Iran’s traditionalists and those in favor of sovereignty are questioning not only the interpretation of the Lausanne Agreement but the Agreement itself. In the days that followed the Agreement, the influential nationalist newspaper Kayhan blasted the Agreement itself and in the past day, President Rouhani has shifted his rhetoric in recognition of the fact that the United States will be taking a hard line as to what sanctions will be lifted. One can only wonder whether Supreme Leader Khamenei – who refused to definitively support or oppose the Agreement in a public fashion – and the Revolutionary Guard – which has publically opposed potential concessions -provided a swift kick to the President and let him now that they know he is being courted by the West but he needs to realize that a principled stand is still the rule for Iran. One can hope this is the case. On the other side of the coin President Obama has stepped up his lobbying of the United States Congress and Senate to fall in line and accept the Agreement. For as we know, the Agreement was one in which Iran stood to lose significantly in return for dubious hopes of partial sanctions relief.
The only option for Iran at this point is to stand firm and set clear red lines for any future final agreement. Already, Iran seems to stepping back from potential concessions and this is necessary. The future lies not in ceding national sovereignty and dignity to a bloated, overstretched American behemoth. No longer does Iran need to see itself as caught between the United States and a cliff. Global alliances divorced from Western hegemony are developing. Iran must stand firm against what Lenin correctly termed as: imperialism, the highest stage of capitalism.
For an independent, sovereign Iran!
Of course is Iran about to research the nukes,
and of course it will get them – sooner or later.
Now the vitable goal for USA is to make mess around Russia to crush it definitely.
So if they had no problem to co-operate with Al-quaida or even contribute to ISLI cration they will absolutely support any perspective threat.
Iran clearly is willing and going to trade the lifting the sanctions and being the transfer and supplier country of gas and oil to Europe against nonformal firndship with Russia. Inded he sees that RF was not eager to help Serbs, Libya or even ethnic Russian people of Donbass just across the borders!!!
Watch this:
http://iton.tv/vse-programmy/osobaya-papka/item/2540-yakov-kedmi-v-yadernoj-vojne-mozhno-pobedit
“Iran must understand that its independence cannot be fully accepted.”
It is easier when the opponent makes your own case for you undermining the case of the opponent.
“But the threat is real – the threat of influence and independence. As is the case with [..] any other country that does not simply kowtow to US demands, Iran must understand that its independence cannot be fully accepted.”
Haha. The threat of influence and independence!
What suddenly happened to our brave American friends? Next thing we hear, the US oligarchs and their henchmen all start weeping and whining: “This is not fair! This cake is all mine…!”
This article is a lot blather and I am not sure what is being said!
Oh well….try this article and it becomes even more opaque if you ask me. http://www.voltairenet.org/article187251.html Except for a new question….can a part of this treaty be made in secret? ( Britain had secret treaties before WWl did it not?) And with international law being turned into mere public relations what good is a treaty?
@ Anonymous on April 10, 2015 · at 6:49 pm UTC
Not a treaty…merely an “agreement”….not binding
Thierry Meyssan’s article was posted in previous comments to Intelligence Analyst’s article….
Looks like Voltairenet’s website is undergoing a Denial of Service attack…..will keep trying…
Christine
Its simple,the West is screwing Iran and Iran shouldn’t trust them.There in less than a paragraph it is explained.Now the “how and why” comes from reading the article.But the bottom line is what I just posted.
Indeed, a giant word salad with a barely discernible train of thought.
OTOH, the Voltairenet article contains several stunning (to me) revelations on the context and background of Lausanne. The upshots of Thierry’s piece are:
– USA’s Pivot to Asia depends on reducing its footprint in the Middle East, and it has committed to doing this.
– The US has acknowledged its failure in the Middle East and is leaving IL, IR, & SA to sort it out between them.
– The Arab side is to create a Middle Eastern “NATO”, now revealed as the SA centered Joint Arab Force to balance Israeli and Iranian power.
– The trick was leaving Iran with enough power to balance SA & IL, but not more.
– The rapprochement required the coming to power of Western oriented politicians, and that Khamenei himself arranged that this be so.
– Iran and US agreed to a Palestinian state based on the Oslo accords.
– This required that Nutty-yahoo lose power, but the US failed to deliver. They will continue to work towards limiting his ability to act, if not removing him entirely.
For Russia, this is a mixed blessing. They benefit from wars being wound down but they have been frozen out. Iran is moving forward without them.
For China, the result is much more ominous. With the ME no longer in need of US “security guarantees” the USM is free to pivot east. The Pentagon is eying “the greatest military base in the world” in Brunei. I haven’t looked into how far along this development is, but it would sure put a spanner in the works for China’s planned Maritime Silk Road.
well david, I don’t think its all blather, but its certainly longer than it should be….
To the commenter who says it is blather and makes no sense:
It doesn’t sound like blather to me, and it makes a lot of sense to me.
We KNOW that this is not really about nukes. Because Iran has not done anything to excite nuclear suspicions (unlike Israel). Why shouldn’t Russia or someone haul the Israelis to Lausanne and pressure them to make this kind of deal? No more nukes for you! Let’s have a draconian inspection regime in the Promised Land. Lol.
We know that the USA elites plus Israel are trying to castrate Russia and also get control of the ME. These two things go together. So controlling political, economic, and social developments in Iran—practically bordering Russia with a natural cultural, historical, and potentially political and economic connection via the Caucasus—is a two-fer for American would-be hegemons. Control ME plus become potentially even a military presence on Russia’s border. Whence more mischief can be made for Russia in the Caucasus. it’s sounds to me like a no-brainer, not blather.
If Iran can be “pacified” in this way, everything that lies between the Med/Israel and Iran, namely Iraq and Syria, will be squeezed in a number of ways. It would be a kind of beach-head and a backstop simultaneously. A base to then pivot away from the Saudis and get better control of the Arabian peninsula.
These may be dreams located in the far future, but I don’t hold it unlikely at all the the USA is trying out how far they can lure some sectors of Iran into their web in order to cast out more sticky entangling an d chaos-inducing threads in all directions.
Remember the phrase “perfidious Albion.”
“Perfidious Albion is an anglophobic pejorative phrase used within the context of international relations and diplomacy to refer to alleged acts of diplomatic sleights, duplicity, treachery and hence infidelity (with respect to perceived promises made to or alliances formed with other nation states) by monarchs or governments of Britain (or England) in their pursuit of self-interest and the requirements of realpolitik, often as not employed by the loser in geopolitical affairs.”
Doesn’t that pretty much say it all? Just substitute “USA” or I guess “Anglo-Zionists.”
Katherine
Iran tyro
Trust me, it doesn’t take 2,933 words to say basically one sentence!
What sentence do you have in mind?
Why should I “trust” you?
Was Du sagst ist eben nichtssagend.
Katherine
“It’s not about the Nukes!”
the first casualty of this trial balloon of an agreement is going to be Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif, he was duped, he will be impeached shortly. The SL appears agitated that nothing has been achieved by this government foreign policy.
The only one that seems to have a clear understanding of this is the Ayatollah.He got it right from the start “no deal without the sanctions ended at the same time the deal starts”.Now if they stick to that position (very uncertain on that) they will be smart.
Darn. I thought this was an article about Switzerland. My favourite country.
I don’t get it
:) Lausanne in the title.
the model for all US treaties, agreements, etc is the treaties made with the Native Americans. Ie. they are nothing more than part of a strategy of trickery and deception and a means to enable oppression with not an ounce of honest intent.
The current US regime is a continuation of the one that committed genocide against the native people of the land. It continues with the same barbaric, primitive world view.
No matter what the wording might be to an agreement that meets with US approval, the US will treat US responsibilities as fiction. Any finalized agreement with the US is failure, no matter what the detail.
You really hit the nail on the head!
Even since 1776, the United States of America (not the sole America!) has been nothing but a protection racket for the 1% owning class.
The Whiskey Rebellion, shortly after the War, was about taxing the poor family farmers (mainly in Pennsylvania) instead of the rich property owners on the East Coast to pay for the debts of the War of “Independence”. And guess who benefited from the killings of that Rebellion?
President George “I never ever tell any lies! Because my amigos control the media!” Washington. He was the owner of biggest alcohol distillery in the USA! Eliminate the competition via the US military!
Michael Parenti really really nails it in this seminal talk: bit.ly/1AbKjKa
Iran and Russia seem to have the same problem.They seem to both not understand that the sanctions are permanent.Its not a matter of them agreeing to some small points the Empire wants.Its all or nothing.Either they fully knell to the West or the sanctions remain (in other forms maybe,but still the same).The answer is clear,and they yet,refuse to see it.Accept the sanctions and move on.Stop worrying over them.Refuse to trade with those that sanction you. Develop your internal economy to not need goods from those countries.Work with trade agreements with countries that don’t sanction you,and only those.Announce to the world that countries that sanction you are enemy states to you.And work around the world to hit back at them.Any enemy of theirs is your friend.This is a life and death struggle for you.Understand that fully,and win it.Trusting the West was your first mistake.Continuing to trust them is your second.With three you are gone.As the saying goes ” Fool me once,shame on you.Fool me twice,shame on me.”
I totally agree with this point of view.
Katherine
Iran has indeed invaded a neighboring country – Iraq, five times, during the Iran-Iraq War of 1980-88. It is true that Iraq invaded Iran previously, in 1980, at the outset of that war. However, by mid-1983 all Iraqi troops were driven out of Iran. The latter could then have negotiated peace under highly favorable circumstances.
Instead it chose to invade Iraq. It captured and held a limited amount of territory in southern Iraq. It invaded afresh in 1984. And 1985. And 1986. In 1987, between February and May, Iran suffered an series of dreadful defeats in battles in Iraq. It lost a minimum of 50,000 dead. Its professional military forces were largely destroyed. In 1988 the drive for volunteers for the annual invasion of Iraq was an abject failure. Khomeini was obliged to end the war.
Some believe Iraq did what ir did to gain US support. Any investigation shows Iran and Iraq got into it for their own reasons. In the course of the war the US made some loans to Iraq. It also provided weapons to Iran – the one with the “n.” That’s not a misprint. The US provided no arms to the one with the “q.” Let’s not cherry-pick facts as to which side the US backed. Its main motive throughout was to prolong the war.
Iran could have had peace in 1983. It did not want peace. It got defeat.
It is said Iraq defeated Iran by the use of poison gas. That is another untruth. Gas is not very good for killing people. That is why is is proscribed. The vast majority of Iranian casualties were inflicted by tanks, aircraft, artillery, and machine guns. These weapons are very good indeed for killing people. That is why they are legal.
Currently Iran poses a number of serious difficulties to US imperialist aims. That is good. But it is also co-occupier of Iraq. Iran is not entitled to occupy and colonize Iraq. Iraq belongs to Iraqis.
Many on the left seem to believe Iran can do no wrong. The last time I looked, Iran was governed by human beings. I do not believe Iran is the vehicle of the will of Almighty God on earth, any more than I believe the same thing of the United States.
Anti-war opposition in the United States to our government’s aggression in Ukraine is weak. That is to a large extent an inheritance from the miserable failure of left and peace forces to understand the US/Iranian occupation of Iraq. Weakness breeds weaknes. I think a fuller and more objective understanding of the Iran-Iraq war would do a lot of good things. For one, It would rid support of Iran of apologies for its wrongdoing. These only do harm. It would also lead to a generally better understanding of about war in general, thus to advance the struggle against US aggression in Ukraine.
By the same criteria to use for Iran.Then after the Soviets had driven the Germans from Soviet soil they should then have offered to Hitler to make a peace treaty.Am I correct on your logic there?
Iraq = Nazi Germany?
No. That is your logic, not mine.
How would the situation be different then? The power of the states is different true.But the situation would be comparable.
All form and no substance. Fill an ice cream box with dogshit. Does that make it delicious?
What were the principal causes of the Iraq-Iran wars?
What were they about?
What did Iraq want in first attacking Iran?
THen, what did Iran want? Revenge?
Or is it a secular-religious conflict?
Or an intra-religious conflict?
Katherine
Several causes.The Iraqi regime was Sunni and the Iranian Shia, so that was an element.The Iraqis had also for years claimed Iranian border regions.But the Shah’s Iranian government was too strong militarily for Iraq to do more than just claim them.But with the chaos at the fall of the Shah the Iraqis believed Iran would be too weak to withstand an attack to grab those territories.What they didn’t bank on was Iranian and Shia patriotism.The attack set off a fervor of patriotism and religious fervor throughout Iran.You had hundreds of thousands of volunteers flocking to fight.Most untrained and many unarmed at first.It was at times a war of human wave assaults and hand to hand combat.The death toll is unknown totally.But most believe at least a million people died in the war.And until the fall of the Sunni regime in Iraq there was an uneasy peace between the two sides.The population of Iraq is almost 65% Shia.So the current Shia government has restored very good relations between the two countries.One of the main reasons people believe the US unleashed the ISIS against Iraq.
OK, thanks.
But I thought the Baathist Party of Saddam Hussein was basically secular.
Katherine
The Iraqi Baath regime was secular, not “Sunni.” By 1980 its makeup was very close to the religious makeup up the country, not because religion was important but because it was not. It is called “modernism.”
The founder of Baathism, a nationalist ideology and not a religious doctrine, was Michel Aflaq. He was a Christian. Tariq Aziz, foreign minister under Saddam, today held illegally in captivity by the occupation, is a Christian.
The characterization of all Arabic political movements as sectarian is an imperialist ploy, together with their feudal allies, to cover the real content of their wars. The sectarian conflict in Iraq was instigated by the U.S. occupation. There were no such conflicts previously.
The origins of the Iran-Iraq war date to the early 1970s. The Shah of Iran armed Kurdish separatists in northern Iraq in a rebellion that claimed 15,000 lives. He did it in cooperation with the U.S. and Israel to punish Iraq for nationalizing its oil, taking it away from a consortium of western oil countries.
In 1975 Saddam and the Shah made a deal called the Algiers Agreement. Iraq surrendered certain vital navigational rights to Iran. In return the Shah cut off arms to the Kurds and the rebellion, which was led by a feudal autocrat, collapsed. The Iraqis felt, rightly, that their navigational rights had been forcibly extorted from them by Iran.
When the Islamic regime came to power in Iran in 1979 the secularity of the Iraqi state was a big issue to them. Khomeini called repeatedly for the overthrow of the Baath, an outrageous violation of all rules of international conduct. It posed a big threat to Iraq internally because Khomeini had widespread connections and access to Shiite clergy in Iraq.
Also there were issues left over from the Algiers agreement that the Islamic regime refused to discuss with Iraq. That was another big problem.
In 1980 the chaos and division in Iran, so soon after the overthrow of the Shah, made it seem likely to Iraq that it could settle its problems with Iran by force. Expansionism was surely a motive too. Bourgeois regimes are always willing to seek annexations. The real analysis of political forces is class analysis, not religion. God does not need money, oil, territory, or any of that stuff.
I hold Iran primarily responsible for the tensions that led up to war. Nonetheless it was unjustified and wrong for Iraq to invade. But it is clear they got into it for their own reasons, not as so often imagined, by U.S. instigation. As for the rest I have given my account above.
Good article. If the Iranians are smart, they will find a way to either modify this agreement or scuttle it. I can’t imagine that the Revolutionary Guard will ever permit pop inspections of all their installations–that would be a major security risk.
Q; …one that counters United States-Saudi-Israeli regional domination
R; correct order – Apartheid Sate – US –
WashablesWahhabiToo bad there isn’t a link to the ‘Iranian Facts
ShitSheet‘.I don’t see this as an Iranian victory of any kind. Again, this is pure Imperial doctrine being meted out. I hope Iran tosses this ‘frame work’ out of the window.
Is VoA doppelganging the Guardian?
Adverts are designed to tell the mark what they want to hear. The most effective adverts manage to mimic the pov completely. This is the secret of Jewish zionist co-optation, btw.
The Iranians should tear up this agreement and jump fully into the SCO while aligning with both Russia and China, sanctions or no sanctions, while bracing and preparing for a possible major US/Israeli military attack, because it will still come, even with this ‘agreement’. They need to realise that the US is a predator/serial rapist that does not take no for an answer. The US DOES NOT RESPECT TREATIES THEY HAVE SIGNED EITHER, FULL STOP!!
The Iranians should go further and seek Russian military protection, because if Iran falls to the West, it will become another major NATO military base on Russia’s southern flank, not to mention that Iran’s vast natural gas resources will become yet another economic weapon to undermine Russia’s own economy.
BOTH Iran and Russia need to wake up and recognise the existential security threat that the Iranian crisis portends for them (this hopelessly skewed ‘agreement’ proves it) and the first step must be to go all out and defeat the forces ranged against Assad beginning with ISIS. They must realise that the US is now going for broke to retain its global hegemony and unless they physically demonstrate how untenable and painful that is going to be for the US, they won’t know what hit them.
Russia and Iran must understand that there is no such thing as a US ‘partner’ in BOTH the Iranian and Ukrainian crises, because the US does not even recognise them as such, but more as adversaries standing in the American’s way.
Engdahl new Apr 10 article AIIB & NDB (BRICS):
Washington’s well-aimed shot in the foot
The 2010 IMF voting rights reform stipulated that China will become the 3rd largest member country in the IMF, and there will be four emerging economies—Brazil, China, India, and Russia—among the 10 largest shareholders in the Fund. Under present rules, Washington, conveniently holds 16.75%, a veto minority. Close US geopolitical allies—Japan with 6.23%, UK and France each with 4.29% and Germany with 5.81% would typically insure that IMF policies in any area were “friendly” to American defined national interests.
The US Congress refuses to pass the IMF reforms and to break the impasse. This is a major way forced China and the other fast-growing BRICS states to look outside the IMF and World Bank and build an entirely new architecture. The AIIB today is emerging rapidly as a centerpiece in this emerging new global architecture.
http://journal-neo.org/2015/04/10/aiib-brics-development-bank-and-an-emerging-world/