Merkel’s politics
I heard some people remark that Merkel’s politics seem to have changed drastically rather recently.
For a long time she has very carefully pursued very clever politics that made her more and more powerful. Even throughout the last flare ups of the so called “Euro-Crisis” (a crisis that is nowhere near over and will be back with a bang shortly) she took a very mendacious, dangerous and “bordering on insane” stance, but at least a rational stance, given that she had lied all along anyway and had nothing to gain from coming clean. It is e.g. a real problem for her to accept the haircut that the IMF has demanded as a condition for its further involvement in the so called “Greece rescue plan”.
But her function looked like funnelling as much tax payer income (present, past and future) to the already rich and powerful while protecting and furthering her own interests. She at least still seemed to protect her own interests.
The “refugee crisis” looks different. While her political stance is in line with parts of the political mainstream (mainly SPD, Grüne and LINKE) it was obvious that it would not sit well with her own conservative party base at all. This will still turn out to be her downfall eventually, and a lot of people will fall with her. And she cannot have been blind to that.
Her only other big political move so out of line with the party’s earlier stance was the “Atomausstieg” (ending nuclear power generation in Germany) in the aftermath of the Fukushima incident.
But there is a big difference. As far as I can tell, people that are “against something” tend to be much more emotionally and insistently involved in an issue than people who “are OK with it” and maybe “against those who are against it”. The CDU would not break over closing down nuclear power plants in Germany and the supporters of the green party loved Merkel for it. That was a safe bet.
But her politics in the “refugee crisis” are akin to her being the chancellor of the green party and starting construction of a new nuclear power plant in every other town. Her party base and their voters hate it, and in a way the CDU has already broken over the issue. The AfD has clearly profited from her policies, and there is open talk about the breakup of the “sacred union” of CDU and CSU.
- Is the far-Right on the rise again in Germany?
- Rise of AfD is about more than the refugee crisis, but Angela Merkel is no more secure for that
That was also a safe bet.
I refuse to believe that whoever pulls Merkel’s strings lacks the political instinct to have anticipated that. I also think that when political decisions turn out to have the opposite of the officially intended effect, that they most likely have exactly the intended effect and that malicious intent is masked by feigned incompetence.So if we judge Merkel not by her words and promises but by her results and assume that she was rather successful, she might have accomplished a lot. Either everything she wanted, or everything that is still realistic to achieve.
Burning her own political power base can only be the last move, obviously. After that you step down or you need a new power base.
The EU is in turmoil, divided and about to break apart. In an idiotic fight with its only natural friend. On top of the monetary bomb it now also sits on an ever growing cultural bomb. Its natural centre Germany is politically more divided than it has been for a long time and is making more and more enemies every day. But Merkel has killed political figures around her so thoroughly that, no matter how bad she looks, compared to “the others” she does not look that bad…
Hillary Clinton could learn from her.
After Merkel there will be chaos and then KTzG will come back as “the saviour”. I think he is still immensely dangerous. Watch out for him. He only left because he wanted to leave and will come back when he thinks that the time is right. Should the German people fall for him it will be almost impossible to save them.
Armenian Genocide Vote
The Bundestag voted to officially acknowledge the massacres of Armenians
and other minorities in Turkey in 1915 as a genocide. The members of parliament, that did find the time to vote, all voted “Yes” with only one abstention and one “No”
But chancellor Merkel, vice-chancellor Gabriel and foreign minister Steinmeier could not attend the vote because of “other obligations”. This now official “Armenian genocide” is not that important for them it seems. It might just upset their Turkish “partners” too much.
I think it is shameful that our leaders would rather distance themselves from a vote on a non-controversial issue (from a German parliament point of view at least, as you can see from the result) than stand by their principles and face the consequences.
Who cares if Turkey does not like it when you call a genocide a genocide? Is it suddenly our government’s job to help Turkey feel good about the lies they tell themselves? In Germany we have laws to the effect that if you deny the genocide known as the Holocaust, you go to jail.
But our chancellor does not have the balls to look Erdogan in the eye and tell him that his ancestors, a hundred years ago, committed a horrible crime, which falls under the definition of genocide.
I probably would not make such a big deal out of this, if it were not for Turkey’s treatment of Kurds and other minorities to this day
and German law regarding the Holocaust. “Denying the holocaust” is a criminal offence in Germany. Even doubting certain aspects of the details of the Holocaust can earn you a jail sentence. Freedom of speech in Germany is severely restricted when it comes to the holocaust. With respect to most topics even extremely outlandish and stupid opinions will not get you in legal trouble.
If e.g. you publicly voice the opinion that Poland started the war on Germany in 1939 and Germany just defended herself, but lost the war because Russia and Japan conspired against Germany, and Hitler was a reptilian shapeshifter from outer space anyway… That would be met with a lot of scepticism but you would not end up in a cell for that, not even a padded one, unless you tried to convince people of your point of view at the point of a knife.
If however, you happen to have similarly stupid ideas about the history of the Holocaust you might end up in prison in Germany.
The rationale for these laws is, that it is considered to be extremely dangerous to view one’s history through rose-coloured glasses. Whitewashing and denying earlier crimes makes future crimes all the more likely. And preventing that, according to German law, outweighs restricting other basic rights to some extent.
I am not a big Reddit fan and did not take the time to read the whole discussion, but here people seem to discuss this at length:
This is not some theoretical thought experiment: If you look at how Turkey treats Kurds today, you might see how German law might have a point there.
Now that the German parliament has clearly stated that Turkey is guilty of a genocide of the Armenians, the spirit of German law could be interpreted as indicating that “Armenian genocide denial” might be problematic in the same way “holocaust denial” is.
The two genocides are by no means equal and should not be treated equally, but they are in many ways similar. In both cases largely defenceless minorities were ruthlessly slaughtered by a state run machine. If denying that one of them happened is a very serious criminal offence in Germany, how can Germany have a partnership with a government whose official position is that the other genocide never happened?
Turkish Reactions
Turkey is really furious about the Bundestag’s position.
They have recalled their ambassador and clearly stated that they consider the vote to be “null and void”.
Turkey says trust between the two governments has been seriously damaged. See, ‘Armenian genocide’ vote: Turkey warns Germany
Members of the Bundestag have received death threats.
Erdogan said that Merkel had promised him to do everything within her powers to prevent this and he was very disappointed.
He even went as far as to imply that the member of parliament “behind the issue” (he almost certainly refers to Cem Özdemir, leading figure of the green party) was not a real Turk and that his blood should be analysed to prove that.
Another very unwise move with regard to German public opinion, that is almost like painting a swastika on your forehead.
He quite openly states, as you can tell from the sources above, that he sees some sort of Kurdish plot behind all this and ties it in with the EU’s demand to change certain terrorism related laws as a prerequisite for visa free travel of Turkish citizens.
Which is the main unsolved issue with regard to the EU-Turkey refugee deal.
- Turkey: changing terror law ‘impossible,’ EU refugee deal hinges on visa-free travel
The EU says the laws are mainly designed to attack dissenting minorities, especially the Kurds including the HDP. Turkey says the HDP are just a political front for the PKK. They are all terrorists, and the EU is trying to help terrorists. That is of course an oversimplification, but I think that is what it boils down to.
I think this is a good opportunity for the German government to change its tone versus Turkey’s current government completely and admit that there are fundamental differences of opinion that make cooperation, to the extent that Germany would in principle welcome, impossible. I think it would have the full backing of its parliament and voters.
The Turkish regime will be furious, but it is better to stand up to them now, not least to send a clear message that Germany will not be blackmailed and is prepared to call a bluff.
Unfortunately Germany is not a sovereign nation, will be easily blackmailed and is not prepared to call a bluff.
*** Breaking News (160608):
Turkish Newspaper blames Germany for Terror Attack in Turkey:
” Turkey’s Guneş newspaper has blamed Germany for yesterday’s (June 7) İstanbul terror attack, which left 11 dead when a police bus was bombed in Vezneciler. The daily today ran the headline ‘The German Job’ (Alman İşi), and subtitle ‘This is what Turkey thinks’:
Most newspapers ran this morning with the attack in İstanbul as the main story; however, pro-government Güneş linked the attack to the bill recently passed in German parliament to recognize the Armenian Genocide.
“[The] deep [state] of Germany could not stomach Turkey challenging it at the highest level. It panicked and started to repeat old habits. It created terror organizations that it uses as a tool to organize a bloody terror attack in İstanbul,” the front page said in quotes above the headline.
It also explained on the front page, “Lastly, it is believed that Germany, which has approved the so called Armenian genocide [bill], organized the attack in İstanbul as a response to Turkey’s firm reaction [to the bill]”.
Güneş also said Germany “who cultivated terror organizations to use against Turkey”, played an active role in the Gezi protest movement of 2013.
“Germany, who openly supported vandals who turned Turkey into a total mess, sent some of its parliamentarians to the [center of the protests in] Taksim square to provoke people. The real reason was to prevent [Turkey] from building the third [İstanbul] airport, which will shift Europe’s air traffic to Turkey and will undermine Germany’s old important place”, Güneş claimed.”
Didn’t Erdogan complain bitterly about Merkel’s lack of control over the German media?
That was about him being called “a goat lover” (more or less), now his “Turkish free press” blames Germany as responsible for terror attacks in Turkey?
The Game of Passage
It is a huge mistake in general to assume that Turkey is a partner that could help Germany or Europe in the “refugee crisis”. Europe needs to protect its borders and Europe has to do it. That can never be Turkey’s job.
I think I sort of said it before:
If you close your doors to keep people out of your house, that is your right. That makes your house your home. If you close your doors to keep people from getting out of your house, that is not your right at all. Your house is now a prison. Right now the “game of passage” is (more or less):
“Set out illegally in an unseaworthy vessel from African shores”:
– make the passage with p(safe) = s
– fail and drown with p(drown) = d
– fail and be rescued with p(rescued) = r
– s+d+r =1
– B is the bet (the expected value of one’s life when not playing the game)
– P is the price of winning the game (the expected value of one’s life when not drowning)
– the expected return of the bet is something like R = -B+P*(1-d)
– The number of people who take the bet, is N
– That is how many people will die: X = N*d
I would suppose that N is an inverse function of d (the more likely it is to die the less people will try). So if you keep that in mind and also remember that R approaches -B for d close to one, making sure that everyone who tries dies, is the best way to save lives…
In the current scenario I think the EU mainly invests (at least officially) in minimizing d and maximizing r. But that is a totally insane strategy and actually the most inhumane course of action, because it increases N as long as perceived R is positive.
With rising r N grows and the resources needed to maintain the “level of r” rises with N. This is a destructive feedback loop and will end in collapse.
It would be much more sensible and, most of all, perhaps feasible to bring d as close to one as possible. If the EU made it their unmistakable and enforced policy to sink all illegal vessels and rescue no one, that would save lives. Because while d would be close to 1, R would be -B and N and hence X would be very close to zero.
Germany Preparing for War Against Russia
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/06/09/germany-preparing-for-war-against-russia.html
Germany’s Genocide Vote Belies Turkish Appeasement
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/06/08/germanys-genocide-vote-belies-turkish-appeasement.html
OK, Germany is not preparing for war with Russia (and I’ve had my eyes opened as to how superficially the non-German world treats political developments in Germany – so confident in jumping to quick conclusions – I really believe the White Paper release was from an NSA hack):
“Germany’s new security concept won’t call Russia ‘rival’ – defense minster”
http://tass.ru/en/world/880487
“German ambassador says Moscow, Berlin seek to maintain high level of ties”
http://tass.ru/en/world/881149
“Germany considering possibility of abolishing visas for Russian students”
http://tass.ru/en/world/881161
“Russian=German youth contacts maintain positive dynamic – Lavrov”
http”//tass.ru/en/politics/881129
“The Russian-German Year of Youth Exchanges will take place in 2016-2017 under the patronage of Russian Foreign Minister sergey Lavrov and German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier. In a joint statement released earlier [June 9], the foreign minister stressed that “developing and strengthening bilateral youth cooperation as a reliable basis for Russian-German relations is a common priority for Russia and Germany.”
“Russia remains Germany’s integral partner in the future world creation, German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said.” (http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160609/1041090898/russia-germany-integral-minister.html)
“Russia has been and remains an extremely important partner for Germany and German economy despite current downturn in bilateral economic relations,” German Economic Minister Sigmar Gabriel said.”
(http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160609/1041079928/russia-germany-economic-sanctions.html)
German FM, Frank-Walter Steinmeier was recently in Argentina (and Mexico) and gave a speech at the German-Argentine Chamber of Industry and Commerce. (quick reminder that the US recently arranged to install a puppet govt in Argentina) In his speech, he said this:
“…we’re witnessing a new global power struggle. In Europe, we are being forced to come to grips with Russia’s return to a confrontational geopolitical mindset. With the annexation of Crimea, Russia – for the first time since the end of the Cold War – is openly calling into question the fundamental principles of Europe’s peaceful order.” — (Putin at the UN: “Do you realize what you have done?” – Russia is now willing and able to confront the US once more, calling into question the peaceful order of total submission to US domination across Europe, including in Russia :-)
On June 9, at the initiative of the Argentine side, President Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the Argentine Republic, Mauricio Macri. They discussed issues of bilateral trade and economic cooperation with a focus on projects in the energy sector, as well as current foreign policy issues. (from kremlin.ru, translated by google)
On June 9, Steinmeier released the following statement (which is worth reading very carefully) about the attack in Tel Aviv:
“We condemn in the strongest possible terms last night’s murderous attack in Tel Aviv against people who were out enjoying the evening peacefully in restaurants and cafes. Our thoughts are with our Israeli friends and the families of the victims. Murder and terrorism are never justified. Under no circumstances can they be used as a means for political confrontation. Those who excuse such acts make themselves complicit in the murders of innocent people and in the political blockade.”
And on arriving back in Berlin on June 9 (following all of the above), Henry Kissinger was waiting to meet with him. Viel Glueck, Herr Steinmeier.
There’s this sentimental Twitter post on June 9th (after post re: meeting with Kissinger) which says: “We wish you all a nice and peaceful evening with this pic of the sky above Berlin”
https://moble.twitter.com/GermanyDiplo/status/740980458805067776/photo/1
(*spoiler alert* it shows a clouded sky starting to break apart, and the light beginning to shine through as the clouds break apart).
Steinmeier is extremely duplicitous……,note Aregntina today is shutting down RT despite recent so called frienship of Putin and Argentina…..
All politicians are duplicitous, in my opinion. One phone call between Putin and the leader of an American puppet state does not a friendship make. But it does go against the argument that Germany wishes to go to war with Russia. The example of Argentina looks like cooperation between Germany and Russia – again, as an example to show that Germany is not preparing for war with Russia.
Steinmeier belongs to a lamp post, he was actively involved in Maidan. I cannot watch his ugly liars’ face a single tenth of a second.
Like Merkel, Gauk, Oezdemir, Roth and all through the bench: Satanic traitors an completely brainwashed hypocrit losers.
Ugly liar, Satanic traitor, extremely duplicitous … His actions still can demonstrate an example that Germany is not preparing for war with Russia. I’m not trying to get the guy elected – just pointing out that there is evidence that Germany is not preparing for war with Russia. And nobody, like nobody on Earth, better matches your descriptors in my opinion, than Henry Kissinger. I guess he was looking for someone like-minded with whom he could share a beer?
Yes, of course not even the German traitors (“government”) is preparing for a war aaginst Russia, because:
A) the population is really really really against such proposals. There were many pro-Russian rallies all over germany and austria in 2014, when it appeared that the west might attack Russia.
B) With what kind of “army” would germany’s insane treasonous pseudo-elite want to do that? There is nothing like an army in germany (deserving that name). And that’s good!
The biggest danger are the american maniacs and their nukes – 75000 US soldiers and enough nukes to end this planet are here in the US protectorate of so called ‘germany”.
I was only attempting to describe to you what you should and what you shouldn’t expect from this Steinmeier freak.
The claims about “Germany is preparing for war with Russia” were complete nonsense, as most things … recently …..
As for Steinmeier again: He was in Kiev on February 21st 2014 co-signing the Yanukovich agreement. You still know what happened only a few hours later. That’s how much you can expect from this Steinmeier parasite: The opposite of what his lying moth-opening is emitting.
But stay calm – Germany has only overprices guns which fail to reach their targets, drones which are not safe for use and even more expensive fleets of planes which do not manage to take off.
I’m not joking, the media were full of such scandals. The german army is such a success story as the (still not opened) Berlin/Brandenburg airport BER or the new Stuttgart train station: Expensive like the Gotthardt tunnel (but here for no reason) and never ever ready for use.
It would make Russia laugh.
One thought to both JJ and Martin – at a certain point, when a person has such deep and intense political convictions, it becomes necessary to get involved. Politically. To try to make that political vision become a reality. To make a difference. You both should do so. My two cents worth. :-)
Otherwise, we make do with those who will put themselves forward – because that’s all there is to do, politically speaking.
(I’m stepping out of line here, I know) Martin, maybe Sergey who blogs here can connect you with some Russian Communist party sympathisers in Berlin? Sergey, I apologize if I’ve misrepresented your political affiliation. This was the impression I gained from your comments. Russia does have an election coming up and I think Martin offers much of value to the Soviet cause, whether in Berlin or further eastward. Sometimes in life, you just have to be connected to the right people, right? :-) Especially in the political aspects of life anyway. My second and final two cents worth. Meddling will now cease!!
Hi Comrade S113, don’t worry.
In fact my comments here are already a form of political engagement.
For more I’m open as soon as required (war).
But let’s hope that won’t come.
There are very few Soviet style communists here, and if I would mention Zionism then they would run crazy without checking a single argument and would ban me for all times.
This blog here connects the good people already.
For more we are simply not enough (need 5 millions the current number, maybe 2 or 3 persons in germany with myself counted in).
And even those who claim to be “Antifascists” are such a breed of antisocial zombified degenerated brainless stone-throwers, I reallllly don’t want to engage with them:
1.Mai 2014 Maifeier in Berlin -Kreuzberg “SO 36 ” mitten drin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWA-GOlz-_A
I would want to go eastwards, if there is a financial possibility to do so.
But then again … where and how?
If the Kremlin doesn’t even support people like Saker, Tatzhit, SouthFronth etc etc etc , and the Russians have enough Programmers which then also speak perfect English plus _perfect_ Russian.
(I lied, I’m meddling again :-) So let’s put out a call to Saker’s readers: anyone in Berlin, or anywhere in Germany, who shares Martin’s viewpoint more or less, and who wants to get together to start the beginnings of some kind of political group, movement or party… please contact either Martin, the Saker, or contact the Communist Party in Russia directly and express interest in starting a regional branch in Germany.
Martin, the Russian Communist Party must have some backers or supporters with cash otherwise they wouldn’t be able to exist, I assume? Since Russia is a Western-style democracy now? :-) Maybe someone in Germany or Russia is willing and has the resources to support this, and is also keeping quiet about it for the reasons you mentioned. Let’s see if those silent supporters will come to the surface (the submarines in the desert as the Saker so beautifully expresses it).
first this, some while ago.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/expulsion-of-cia-head-a-sign-of-tougher-german-response-to-spying-a-980912.html
then this from Washington’s Blog:
West/ Federal Germany is a NATO puppet state.
With Gorbachev’s sold out of eastern Germany (German Democratic Republic) and implosion of eastern bloc, two negative outcomes happened.
1) W.Germany conquered GDR. There was no reunification and no new constitution. West Germany treated eastern Germany as occupied territories. The GDR military was liquidated and sold for scrap, all military officials were fired and got unemployed. All eastern German industries were bought at ridiculously low prices, and many of them were closed on purpose because they were competitors of west German corporations. Eastern Germans suffered from massive unemployment and millions became migrants to the West , usually treated as foreigners . East German culture and history was ridiculed by western media and west propaganda portrays GDR as a third world police state ( even though it was a major industrial power, with decent living conditions )
2) German economic influence over eastern Europe became significant. German corporations became dominant in Eastern European markets . This was not possible before 1990 as these countries had state owned planned economies and traded mostly with each other and with the USSR . With more economic influence , there was more leverage towards eastern Europe. And now all these countries are part of EU NATO and are antirussian
@xvg: Once again you are spot-spot-on.
You gave a very precise description of how the West dealt with GDR, your comments below about the migrants are also true.
Beutezug Ost (Ripping off the East)
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=beutezug+ost
It was a hostile Annexation in its very meaning:
Russia May Condemn “Annexation” Of East Germany
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-28/russia-may-condemn-annexation-east-germany
German industrialists want to bring millions of illegal third world migrants so as to keep labour costs down and to remain competitive against China. During the last 20 years, they managed to keep wages down by bringing millions of central and eastern Europeans (Hungarians, Czechs, Poles, Romanians, Yugoslavs, Balts etc ). As this supply has slowed, they had to bring more people.
With the engineered chaos of the “refugee” crisis , they could bring millions without following legal ways and paying for insurance etc . They would use these people as slave labour and then they would get rid of them and will get new slaves from the hundreds of migrant hotspots / camps that are established in the German colony of Greece.
A very insightful essay. Merkel is quite evidently following a program with no plan ‘B’, and as noted, her rise was one of historical ruthlessness: But that rise, I would opine was managed by who else but the USA occupation forces of Germany.
The wave of migrants; certainly managed and lacking in any spontaneity reflects, to me to be an evacuation. Obamas’ strange time limitation regarding a resolution to the Syrian war as: All hell will break loose if the situation is not resolved by 1/8/2016. So to restate, my view is that a Southern hemisphere to the Northern hemisphere evacuation is urgently under way. I believe the reasons are quite clear for those that care to research carefully. Disinformation is a growing problem of huge proportions. The program which interestingly aligns with the ambitions laid out for Europe by one Richard Cadeneuve Kalergi in 1922, and that Merkel is a holder of the Kalergi prize for her work in destroying European culture, gives one pause, but, at this point in history many trends are converging.
Your article Scott, is some sort of provocation to think and think again, Germany being a very important factor in the future or Europe and at some extent, Russia. Germany had a pivotal role in the relations of Europe with Russia, being the epicenter of political, economical and military HQ not only in two world wars but in the cold war period too. Now, this is fundamental for the US policy towards Russia and as a such, it makes sense for the US (and who are behind him) to keep Germany under pressure as long as they need her. We are currently witnessing a change in the internal structure of German policy, in a wider spectrum of the society – which is also put under daily pressure and brainwashing on all fronts – and on the active political party level. The refugee policy has failed, the Turkish deal has failed, Merkel is under pressure from out and from within. The french vote regarding the sanctions against Russia has ringed the alarm bells in Berlin but the Deutsche media MSM has nothing to say on that. The struggle is intense, in a German way, behind the doors. Let’s see what will happen.
Mondoweiss has details of an interesting interview with Efraim Halevy, the former head of the Israeli intelligence service. It is worth reading the whole.
http://mondoweiss.net/2016/06/intelligence-netanyahus-palestinians/
Key points:
He has said that the wave of Palestinian knife attacks was inevitable because of the occupation, and that Israel should stop demonizing Hamas because military leaders want to work with Hamas.
Halevy said there was a relation beween Israel’s occupation of the West Bank and the violence of some Palestinians. This ties in with recent statem,ents made by Lt. General Yair Golan in his Holocaust Day remembrance speech. Golan said that Palestinians are normal people who are going to resist occupation, while Israel is exhibiting traits of Nazi Germany.
Halevy also said that netanyahu’s days are numbered and the recent events ‘herald the beginning of the coundown to the end of the administration of Netanyahu’.
Halevy said that Hamas must be treated as a normal political force– and all the Israeli military brass know it.
Finally he states that Netanyahu is misusing the Holocaust for political ends with the statement “I believe there is no existential threat to Israel from anybody in the world including the Iranians… The total of all our capabilities, both defensive and offensive, are such that we can be sure and assured, that the existence of Israel is assured for the next 1000 years ”
[1000 years? Thats is a familiar figure! Anyone making any of the above claims or statements in Germany would probably in deep doodoo, but it is OK in Israel]
It should be remembered that Ariel Sharon said similar things in his last public speech. A significant part of the audience walked out and Netanyahu’s face is telling. Fortunately for the Israel regime, Sharon suffered a ‘stroke’ so his plans went nowhere – another case of ‘G-d moving in mysterious ways’?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shgGvpkUMp4
Netanyahu is probably aware of this movement as he is consolidating his power, replacing key political and judicial figures with people loyal to him. Lieberman is probably an exception, and reflects the idea of keeping friends close and enemies closer.
Putin may also be aware of it, possibly explaining the apparent cosying-up to Israel which is up to its neck in the ISIS oil/support.
The sultan will not be amused hearing this.
Austria, a major member of the European Union, has ruled out the possibility that a visa deal between the bloc and Turkey could be implemented by the July 1 deadline.
“I do not think that the first of July is feasible,” Austrian Interior Minister Wolfgang Sobotka said on Friday.
The Austrian official said his country would not agree to implement the deal unless Ankara fulfills all its obligations.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/06/10/469834/Turkey-EU-visa-deal-Austria-Wolfgang-Sobotka
“Dem’s is fightin’ words”, quoth he:
http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2012/06/Turkey-Erdogan_Horo-195×110.jpg
As no one challenged the game of passage yet, let me take up this task.
To avoid complete fatalism, the game of passage offers several solutions. It is only a matter of finding the proper humane solution, which should first and foremost rely on increasing B. The past decades showed that B was high enough for most of the current migrants. Hence, if our policy would have favored maintaining B in the countries of origin, things would be all right now. A humane solution includes rescues. A rescue policy and a quick return of migrants that won’t get asylum is an acceptable policy in my opinion.
However, for our tycoons it was necessary to boost the MIC and their violent control of resources in these countries, while at the same time cutting desperately needed funds to feed refuges in nearby refuge camps. The greed and power grabbing madness of our leaders resulted in B approaching zero. In this scenario of totally disparate P and B, you can put d as close to one as you wish, N and hence X will keep increasing.
An important aspect is missing yet: the cost of passage C. C is already so high that most people that would be eligible to get asylum do not manage to bring it up. If a migrant whose asylum request is refused finds him-/herself returned, he/she would need to bear C another time only to get returned again. But why would migrants retry? Because many relied on support by friends and family, they are not welcome to return empty-handed. Especially male working-age migrants are death-men walking (useless eaters in the eyes of their communities) if unable to refund the received support many times over.
In my opinion, the current migrant crisis is a planned double-tap to sink the European countries in the process of the destruction of the orient.
I shall add that the tycoons are playing the “restricted resources conquest”. It is well known that Earth cannot support 7 billion people living a north American live. Hence, in the tycoon’s mindset either the world population must be drastically reduced or the living standard of the general populace must be kept at the lowest possible. These reflections are not new. In 1980 the Georgia Guidestones were erected, whose inscriptions advice to keep world population below 500 million. To me, it became clear that Europeans will find themselves among the 6.5 billion “superfluous” people.
If we refuse this outcome, what can we do about it?
Stop support of activities related to this unwelcome outcome. No funding of armament, of military activity on foreign soil, of organized criminality (i.e. buying out banks) or crimes against humanity (i.e. torture, state terrorism, wars). In particular, interdict the misuse of tax payment for these crimes. Activities that cannot be funded or lack the workforce won’t happen.
Hold governments accountable and responsible for their actions or inaction.
@ Marcel Leutenegger:
“Hence, in the tycoon’s mindset either the world population must be drastically reduced or the living standard of the general populace must be kept at the lowest possible.”
I don’t know, this is one of those things from the conspiracy theorists [and I’m not using that term in a bad way] which I don’t buy.
For decades now [if not centuries] the standard policy from the ‘elites’ was and still is pro-natalist: get married, or not, but breed, then breed some more, you can’t afford it? Who cares! Children are a blessing – that’s their straight mantra.
IVF, surrogate mothers [rent-a-womb], the ‘war on women’ body sovereignty, child benefits, generous child-grants when a kid is born [in some countries], free schooling [which really are child-care centers (I call them children’s store warehouses) since they don’t teach anything useful to them. They just want the sprogs to be out of the way while their parents go to work] and there are plenty more of other examples that blatantly demonstrates the ‘elites’ agenda is pro-natalists, not the opposite.
Another thing some ultra-conservatives spew; is that the elites are all for dismantling the family institution. Which in their idiotic minds it translates as depriving men [and men only] from children. Whilst being completely oblivious to the fact, that in a married family, or single parent family the two main constants are: breeding and CHILDREN.
Who are left out of their oh-so-righteous conservative complain? The women and the children they produce – they’re voiceless – apparently in their view, plus it leaves the ‘elites’ themselves off the hook regarding their: pro-natalism at any cost.
Ergo; the elites are pro-natalist, how the plebs go-on about breeding, they don’t care, so long they breed. To say they’re anti-family, it’s compartmentalizing the huge subject of over-breeding and over-population, to something that concerns only conservative/traditionalist men, while at the same time reducing to irrelevancy the free-will and/or opinion[s] of two major crucial members on any traditional family: women/mothers and children.
They’re just as bad as the ‘elites’ as far as I’m concerned, until they get their heads screwed-on right, I will continue to ignore their nonsense.
If the ‘elites’ wanted to reduce population, their approach would more likely be wide spread war [WWIII, ideally, in their minds], famine, unleashing all murderous criminals from prison [like they’re already doing in places like Iraq and Syria], cutting funds on Police [which some EU countries are already doing, btw], release some awful disease – something like; Ebola – which overcrowding doesn’t help, in fact it facilitates the uncontrolled spread of disease, stuff like that…
Personally, I doubt they want population reduction, what they want is something more like India. An outrageously over-populated country, with huge slums of poor people, living on scraps and on top of each other and dieing young so they make room for younger slaves.
What they want it’s a human equivalent of battery chickens. Keep them in their pens and producing, how ever little they produce may not matter so long they just keep laying them eggs, because they’ll always rely on piling even more humans on top of each other to make up for any short-fall.
Overall, I tend to agree more with your second part of the paragraph I quoted: “[..] or the living standard of the general populace must be kept at the lowest possible”
That’s their main goal, this is their reason for open-borders, not to mention the Climate Change Tax agendas, and everything else they’re throwing at the working/middle class in order to decimate them.
Their ‘logic’ is as simple as it’s depressing: we all want quality over quantity. They want mostly quantity for us in order to deliver quality for them. And them only.
That’s what it boils down to.
-TL2Q
@C.
To Merkel: I found in the social media a apposite sentence:
(sorry, but I have to write it in German)
“Die Merkel ist eine bloße Fortsetzung der Grünen mit anderen Mitteln.”
This is a nice variation of the famous words by Clausewitz’:
„Der Krieg ist eine bloße Fortsetzung der Politik mit anderen Mitteln“ (Vom Kriege I, 1, 24)
(G-translate:
“The war is a mere continuation of politics by other means.”)
This is a remark to C. “After that you step down or you need a new power base.”
Merkel maked and makes a more radical green politics as the german “Green” party ever would do.
This “politics” means: buy calm and time by selling the future.
In Germany now, we have a de facto dominance of nonrational green leftist “Block” parties
in the media the administration a. s. o.
In this “Block” are all “old” parties e. g. CDU, CSU, SPD, FDP, Grüne, Linke…
This picture looks like for the “Blockparteien” in the DDR (GDR).
It looks like that Merkel speculates: to add only the named “Green” part of the Block parties
to the coalition after the next “Bundestags-” election.
If the conservative part of the Germans dont vote for here again.
It is so very obvious why Merkel did the “open border policy” for the refugees. However one cannot see it if he has a blind spot when it comes to the system we are living under: capitalism. Same time:
Right now it is very difficult to find someone willing to do work for the minimum wage of laughable euro 8.50/h. Germany has by far the highest productivity, but pays compared to that much lower rates then all the other countries compared. One of the reasons is that on welfare you “make” about 850 euros and save some money for mandatory government-TV payments and for public transport. Hence the difference is maybe 150-200 euros compared to 173h work per month. (1470 euros after taxes are 1080 euros net). Same time you have to pay for public transportation and clothing and such. So why work? And since Germany was the last (!) country in Western Europe to introduce a “mindeslohn (minimum wage)” – there are just not enough idiots to work for that little money left. If you check prices in Munich or Hamburg, 1080 euro per month will buy you nothing.
So the situation was like this: lowering the already way below poverty line social payments and risk and upsurge of petty crime and social unrest or find another solution:
And here they come: our “beloved” refugees. Less skilled than many businesses hoped for – but fully willing to work their buts off for 8.50/h.
Any question why Merkel did what she did? Nobody needed to tell her anything – it was a business opportunity!!
Same time: the new “trick” for the hiring of new refugee-slaves is like this: You request from the labor office some people that speak some German, “to give them a chance”. It is called “Praktikum”. They work for you for up to three months, without pay of course, and then you fire them. And: next batch.
Hence the idea Merkel’s policy had anything to do with Uncle Sam or she was controlled by some evil power, other then good? old capitalism is just utter bulls***. She was driven by the only force that matters to her: €€€ for her supporters.
“””””Right now it is very difficult to find someone willing to do work for the minimum wage of laughable euro 8.50/h. Germany has by far the highest productivity, but pays compared to that much lower rates then all the other countries compared. One of the reasons is that on welfare you “make” about 850 euros and save some money for mandatory government-TV payments and for public transport. Hence the difference is maybe 150-200 euros compared to 173h work per month. (1470 euros after taxes are 1080 euros net). “””””
If you claim such fairy tales I’m wondering in which country you are living or existing.
8 EUR and 50 Cents per hour are a dream which many don’t ever get paid.
You forgot to mention Kurzarbeit (flexible short-time work).
You forgot to mention Minijobs (less than 450 EUR per month https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geringf%C3%BCgige_Besch%C3%A4ftigung )
As of 2014 according to official statistics there were 7.5 million Minijobbers, of whom 5 Millions had this as their only income and 2.5 Millions as AdOn job
You forgot Hartz4 (social help for the unemployed): Where are your freaking 750 EUR In reality I get nothing and others may get 200 or 300 EUR if they agree to live without dignity:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeitslosengeld_II
Warning: Graphic Images:
google-images for:
homeless germany
https://www.google.de/search?q=poverty+germany&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi7g7eJ96DNAhUJuBQKHSjIDOcQ_AUICCgB&biw=1280&bih=851#tbm=isch&q=homeless+germany
Then you correctly said, that 1000 EUR buy you nothing in Germany, for example the cheapest small flats/apartments in some lower class suburbs are meanwhile 400 EUR per single-room apartment cold without anything. Add to this a monthly 100 EUR maintainance/water, another 50 or more EUR electricity, 17 EUR monthly propaganda fee and what not.
But with your claim that nobody wants to work in germany for an hourly 8 EUR 50 Cents or with your wonderland claims about alleged 850 EUR per month for nothing you in fact lure even more migrants to Germany.
In reality such migrants are not even permitted top work at all legally in the first year.
And to “help” them they are now in certain situations “permitted” to work at construction sites at 1 EUR (!) per hour:
migranten 1eur job
https://www.google.de/webhp?hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2s72T96DNAhXEVxQKHU80B8EQPAgD#hl=de&q=migranten+1eur+job
To debunk more of your Schlaraffenland myths, here more about the real situation in so called BRD aka (not) Germany:
http://www.arbeitslosennetz.de/forum/archive/index.php/t-17314.html
“””””Der Schlag traf mich direkt während des Telefonats: (Ausländischer Akzent!) „Du kannst arbeiten bei mir, für 165 Euro, 14,9 Stunden die Woche lang. Ich fragte: Das sind doch 59.6 Stunden im Monat, entspricht einem Stundenlohn von 2,76 Euro?”””””
“””””The blow hit me directly during the telephone call: (Foreign accent!) „you can work for me, for 165 euros, 14.9 hours the week. I asked: Nevertheless, these are 59.6 hours in the month, does correspond to an hourly wage of 2.76 euros?”””””
And I only google’d for this because I read it last week at some newspaper that there were many similar cases (3 EUR per hour and less, no social security, no health insurance, no retirement insurance). BTW, during college I jobbed in exactly such a job with my own old car. I was responsible for everything and almost got nothing. In the last month before bankruptcy I didn’t get any payment at all. The boss disappeared with all the money and owes me 500 EUR until this day (for 4 weeks of hard work inside the Pizzeria and outside as a delivery driver).
But the situation for me now as skilled software engineer isn’t much better.
I regret I learned too much and didn’t simply work as some dull plumberer, because they and similar professions always have money.
@gayguy
“Any question why Merkel did what she did? Nobody needed to tell her anything – it was a business opportunity!!”
Sorry, but this is nonsense ;-)
We don´t have jobs in Germany for 2 000 000 new underskilled “refugies” per year.
The majority of this people live and will live from social transfers.
In the best case this “refugie” madness is a short business activity program for the “migration industries”.
But also this case is only burning of money and a burden for the future of the country.
Processes with high parts of human manufacturing are just exported from Germany to far east.
And the export of work continues.
Remains the question:
Why Merkel did what she did?
I have no an answer.
I fear, Merkel has a mental problem.
> I fear, Merkel has a mental problem.
No, but “she” (it!) is a robot living next door to the NGO Atlantikbruecke, where the instructions are coming from.
I know this because the address is listed on their own homepage.
For more background you can google and then autotranslate:
atlantik brücke next door merkel
https://www.google.de/search?q=atlantikpruecke+next+door+merkel&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=6J5cV47HG8O7UczipsAK#q=atlantik+br%C3%BCcke+next+door+merkel
> We don´t have jobs in Germany for 2 000 000 new underskilled “refugies” per year.
Very correct.
We don’t even have jobs or mere roofs_above_the_head for our own people.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeitslosenstatistik
Especially not in the de-industrialized and robbed off destroyed former Soviet-East-Germany (once a success story with full employment and the #10 exporter to the world market), which becomes even clearer if you look back at 1997 (before many died or moved away or started to be “employed again” in low level service sectors:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeitslosenstatistik#/media/File:ArbeitslosigkeitInDeutschland1997.png
We have literally and in its very meaning Millions (!) or highly skilled highly qualified *unemployed* who are genuinely looking for any somehow acceptable job, while the Merkel propaganda keeps claiming the fairy tale of “Germany is desparately looking for skilled workers”:
the fairy tale of lack of workforce
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fachkraeftemangel
This gayguy is writing together such a bunch of nonsense, if he really ever was in Germany then maybe in the rich south-west near the borders to Austria and Switzerland.
But that’s not representative for the rest.
first of all: to call my nick “gay propaganda” shows who has a problem.
2nd: it is ILLEGAL to pay someone less then 8.5/h – including minijobs!
read the law: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bundesrecht/milog/gesamt.pdf
what I give you: there are loopholes and some abuse – but compared to b4 it is a major improvement.
And 8.5 Euro per hour is still almost nothing.
What you make with the social benefits program Hartz 4?
404 Euros Regelsatz
463 Euro for housing
50-75 Euros for heating (that differs)
That is at least Euro 917
plus free healt care
plus major ticket discount for public transport
plus free government TV (which is about 18 euro/m)
I am not saying this is great or enough….all I am saying is that what you make working for 8.5/h is not a lot more.
And the 1 euro jobs? They get less and less – which is good – and they come on top of those 917 euros.
Please do not play people for fools on this board.
I stay with my reasoning: the main point for refugees is to put more presure on poor people. Same time many of them are willing to work for the minimum wage – at least for the moment.
And the other 80% of the refugees that do not/will not work? Its great business for companies because the German govt. pays a shitload of money for them. Hence even they create profits for others.
Forget your Hartz4 daydreaming.
Many people get nothing.
Ever heard “sanctioning”?
If that was true what you say, how it comes we have half a million (real number!) homeless in germany?
May others waste their time.
“””””I stay with my reasoning: the main point for refugees is to put more presure on poor people.”””””
Well, with that you *are* correct.
But perhaps unknowingly you describe the rest better than it in fact is.
“””””And the 1 euro jobs? They get less and less – which is good – and they come on top of those 917 euros.”””””
You cannot be quite clear.
Maybe you should open the links which I provide:
homelss germany
https://www.google.de/search?q=homelss+germany&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=Lm5dV7CuNYOrUb68k8gE
“””””An analysis of how/why some 860,000 people are homeless in Germany, which like most nations, has no governmental structure to address this human rights problem.”””””
http://www.share-international.org/archives/homelessness/hl-abGermany.htm
Images: (graphic) : https://www.google.de/search?q=homeless+germany&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjou5OU1qLNAhUKvRQKHevLDysQsAQIRg&biw=1280&bih=851
As for:
“”””” gayguy on June 12, 2016 · at 10:29 am UTC
first of all: to call my nick “gay propaganda” shows who has a problem.”””””
You don’t get it.
I said: Do in your private life what you want, but don’t bring propaganda to the public, especially not to schools are day-TV where children are part of the audience.
Or did you ever see here anybody with a nick name “teeny-fazializer”, “18yo_brunettes-Lover” or “small-tits-loving-sugar-daddy”?
Such things belong into everybody’s private lives, not into a nick name, not into kindergarden, not into school and not onto the next city’s marketplace.
@gayguy:
BTW, honestly I do not care what you or anyone is doing in his/her private life as long as it is in mutual agreements with others and nobody gets forced to anything, especially not children who have to learn about gay practics in school at much too young age (before knowing what sexuality actually is) and hence get influenced into your direction. That’s a gov-enforced form of child-abuse!
I don’t even care about any poster’s gender for as long as she/he is writing down and sharing with the community news, smart analysis, thoughts, predictions.
But what you are in fact doing by including your sexual orientation into the nickname constitutes gay propaganda, because unlike everybody else you include such sexual aspects into every word you speak. Just like with your gay pride parades: Did you ever see a “We are heteros!” parade with naked men/girls having sex in public space?
Take some of this: How to politically correctly greet all sexualities from now on (can be understood without translation into English) :
Steffen Königer zum Genderwahnsinn. AFD im Landtag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DQ61G9ir0Q
Below comment from the article is pregnant with meaning:
“In the current scenario I think the EU mainly invests (at least officially) in minimizing d and maximizing r. But that is a totally insane strategy and actually the most inhumane course of action, because it increases N as long as perceived R is positive.”
—————
The humane course of action in war is to go all out and decapitate the leadership. Then convert the population over time. Example: The U.S experience in Japan, or South Korea. This means mobilizing a huge army, then occupying for a time, and then withdrawing after civil institutions are established.
Suppose after 9-11 false flag, American military and civil leadership had decapitated and Installed a military Junta in Iraq, and then also forced changes in Islam – say making it more like Bahai. Over time Iraq population morphs, and maybe becomes more high trust. In effect, society shifts, and the programming (wetware) of the people changes, becoming a new civilization. At that point, Iraq civilization morphs to more of a consensual type and autocratic leaders are no longer needed.
This could have been done with many less lives lost, than what America actually did in Iraq.
But, western political leadership are not interested in rational decision making. Competing interest groups run western governments today, not governments of/for the people. 911 was a false flag precisely because leadership is from these interest groups who have common cause. Their goals are in a loose alliance, something like trains running on parallel tracks heading in the same direction.
The interest groups that run the U.S: 1) extraction industry (Oil, gas, coal), 2) finance (wall street and private banks), 3) aipac, 4) military industrial complex.
It is in these groups interest to have failed states – for example, U.S. MIC can continue to sell weapons and make “money” if war never ends. AIPAC has their agenda – greater Israel as part of messiah prophecy and zion’s oded yinon plan. Finance is now subordinate to debt spreading money creation – and it likes wars and failed states. Financial neo-liberalism always wants debts paid e.g. greece and latvia, despite impoverishing populations.
So, don’t expect sanity to prevail in the west until the money system is changed and comes under legal and moral control, responsible to its people. Zion itself is an outgrowth of private credit as money, first established in the world, as bank of england in 1694.
If something is done repeatedly, it is not insane from the interest groups point of view, it is sane. It is a feature that helps them because it works.
“It is a huge mistake in general to assume that Turkey is a partner that could help Germany or Europe in the ‘refugee crisis’. Europe needs to protect its borders and Europe has to do it. That can never be Turkey’s job.”
Verdict: Platitudes pure and simple and of the most deluded petty bourgeois variety at that. Reeks of the abominable “European values” nonsense in my nostrils.
Europe is being ruled 100% by Big Capital, most notably US American and German. The Euro-cretins from Tsipras and Hollande on the “Left” to Merkel and Cameron on the “Right” are but grovelling political stooges in the service of the plutocracy in charge. Are you seriously suggesting that Western imperialism doesn’t know what serves its interests and what does not? To the great chagrin of the majority population of the EU, their rulers have struck a most promising deal with their fascist lackey in Turkey with a view to make very good use “at home” of unending imperialist wars abroad. Terribly sorry, C: Turkey is, in fact, doing its assigned job splendidly. The refugees will be the final nail in the coffin of Social Democracy and the Western labour aristocracy. It might also turn out to end up as much yearned for cannon fodder against Russia and China. You had better dispose of your, shall we say, “romantic” notions of European solidarity. Just doesn’t exist.
“If you close your doors to keep people out of your house, that is your right. That makes your house your home. If you close your doors to keep people from getting out of your house, that is not your right at all.”
Western Heimat being sabotaged by raw Western Elite contempt. Whitey feeling duly betrayed.
Sami A. is a former bodyguard of Osama Bin Laden and lives in in Bochum, Germany. He is married with a German national and has three kids.
His expulsion has been ordered in 2006, but Sami A. has successfully appealed the decision, because in his home country, Tunisia, he “is in risk of being tortured”.
(article in German)
http://www.derwesten.de/staedte/bochum/salafist-sami-a-der-nette-nachbar-aus-dem-terrorcamp-id6957447.html?onepage=true