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Democracy triumphs in Scotland

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  1. Murray on September 20, 2014  ·  at 12:04 pm EST/EDT

    I actually as an expat Scot had an open mind and was not sure how I would have voted had I had the vote but the the sheer volume of engineered opposition by the ‘usual suspects’ to a ‘yes’ vote has really annoyed me. The media were united in opposition, including of course the BBC, English and foreign personalities like Mick Jagger and Obama joined in against a vote for independence yet when a Scot like Andrew Murray said he was FOR he was vilely and viciously attacked. Disgraceful and stinks of an Establishment fix.

  2. Anonymous on September 20, 2014  ·  at 12:28 pm EST/EDT

    Well they have signed another sellout deal at Minsk.It I think now is pretty plain that Russia has screwed itself, and caved to the sanctions.Sending Novorossii to the dust bin as part of the caving.In hopes of getting “mercy” for Russia from the West.To paraphrase Churchill “you had the choice of shame or war.You picked shame and got war as well”.By selling out Novorossii Russia has shown its friends, trust in them should only go so far.If they won’t protect Russians and Russian speakers from murderous neo-nazis what would they do for non-Russians.I can’t believe that they can’t see that the West and the Kiev junta can’t be trusted.And as I said a while back.The US is vindictive.Now that they know sanctions are a whip hand over Russia. They will use the sanctions and threats of more to stop anything that Russia does,that they don’t like.As soon as the Ukie elections are over they should have a real anti-Russian pro-NATO Rada.And with NATO aid sure to pour can start rebuilding the Ukrainian military as a force to aid NATO.And to start the taking back of total control of Donetsk and Lugansk.Then can start working on Crimea.Turning loose the ultra-nationalists to begin terrorist operations there.There are Gas talks on the 26th I believe.And I won’t be surprised to see either the EU give Kiev the money to pay the back Russian bill.Or since they now have the whip hand,to see Russia cave there as well.Maybe some sanctions be canceled in exchange for a sweetheart deal from Russia on Ukrainian gas.Had Russia done what we all hoped and many including me ,thought they would do.The neo-nazis would be gone.The junta would be gone.And Novorossii would be independent, or at least be an autonomous region in a pro-Russian Ukraine.With no chance of NATO using it as a Russophobic client state.That’s willing to host NATO bases.I guess the power of the 5th column in Russia is far more deadly than we imagined.Putin must have been told if he didn’t cave, he would be replaced.We may never know the details,but only see the sad results.
    If by some miracle I am totally wrong I will publicly apologize on here to Putin.And be the happiest pro-Russian on the blog to do so.But I can’t see how I’m wrong .The pro-Novorossian’s are almost in tears and ready for a suicide pact.And I don’t blame them.All those women and children,old folks,and brave militia dead.Hundreds of thousands of people forced out.Countless homes and businesses destroyed.Just to be returned to Ukie control,without even autonomy.

  3. Paul II on September 20, 2014  ·  at 12:29 pm EST/EDT

    I would trust Poroshenko infinitely more than the British authorities. He at least is restrained by the idea that someone could hurt or remove him. They feel above all law, and are proud of that fact.

  4. HadEnough on September 20, 2014  ·  at 12:59 pm EST/EDT

    Yes, the video of the woman appearing to fraudulently count the votes is a true reflection of how corrupted our democratic institution really is in the West.

    After heightened terror alerts in the past few weeks follows news that more power is being granted to police in imperial vassal states, to basically mirror the events in the US.

    Our rights are being stripped as we zombies do nothing to allow our children to experience the freedoms we once had.

  5. Anonymous on September 20, 2014  ·  at 1:02 pm EST/EDT

    From WillieTheWisp:
    If at first you don’t Secede: Try, Try, and Try Again!

    The truth is freedom from a system does not come from a ballot box, it has always been paid in blood.

  6. WestTX on September 20, 2014  ·  at 2:10 pm EST/EDT

    Saker,

    Hope you are doing OK.

    Miss hearing anything from you.

  7. Anonymous on September 20, 2014  ·  at 2:13 pm EST/EDT

    AK
    20 September, 2014 01:07

    thanks for link to this moving video of monastery at Donbas.

  8. Anonymous on September 20, 2014  ·  at 2:20 pm EST/EDT

    After signing the sellout agreement this morning in Minsk.Now the Ukie’s have fired 3 TOCHKA-U ballistic missiles into the massive chemical plant in Donetsk and 12 tons of hexogen exploded at the plant.Several videos show massive chemical clouds rising from the explosion.This is the plant Stelkov warned about over a month ago.If Russia doesn’t respond savagely to this and allow the NAF to finish the Ukies in the region they have a worthless government that is dangerous for the Russian people to tolerate.And doomed to be conquered by the West.

  9. Serendipity on September 20, 2014  ·  at 2:28 pm EST/EDT

    Anonymous said…

    Break down by age, it was those aged 55 and older who voted No.

    http://s3.mirror.co.uk/mirror/ampp3d/articles/indy-ref-by-age.jpg

    The referendum ballots had only a choice of ‘Yes’ or ‘No’. So what is the source of this ‘data’. The image says: ‘Lord Ashcroft’. WTF?

    I don’t think it’s fair to describe the Scottish voters as ‘sheep’, since (based on polls conducted before the vote) the majority favored independence and so presumably voted ‘Yes’.

    The day after the referendum Alex Salmond resigned his position as Scottish first minister. What a wimp! In view of the videos showing vote-rigging why hasn’t he (or someone else in his party) demanded a recount of the paper ballots?

    In the US presidential election of 2000 Al Gore, in a car on his way to concede defeat, had his driver go around the block, giving him enough time to decide to contest Bush’s apparent win. Salmond just rolled over and accepted defeat, ignoring the fact that Cameron et al. would have done anything to ensure a ‘No’ vote, including fixing the vote. Gutless!

  10. teranam13 on September 20, 2014  ·  at 3:36 pm EST/EDT

    re: Scotland and Ukraine
    The forces of total dominance work on many levels and Cameron out right lied to the Scots at the last minute to swing the vote. This is not over yet although the Brits will try to lock it in legally. As for Ukraine, there was a major act of sabotage in Donetsk today. It is part of the multilevel plan for destabilization of the Ukraine- the Israelis use a squad of Arabic speakers dressed as jihadis to sow damage and confusion if it is the right time to do so. Also, tying nationalism to religion is a real nation killer and it looks like forces are mucking under the surface on this front also. There are many ways to skin a cat and these CIA guys in Kiev have lots of practice.
    Now Putin is no fool–check this out:http://stratrisks.com/geostrat/20987

  11. Martin Bochnig on September 20, 2014  ·  at 4:07 pm EST/EDT

    BIG FRAUD: There is no Donbass semi-autonomy http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/100231.html
    Порошенко: Никакой полуавтономии Донбассу http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz-PZcoAtyw

  12. Anonymous on September 20, 2014  ·  at 4:52 pm EST/EDT

    While media and regime hysterics ensue in the USA over the incident, in Russia it’s treated with amusement.

    Panic, Evacuation Ensues as Unarmed Intruder Enters White House

    http://en.ria.ru/world/20140920/193125437/Panic-Evacuation-Ensues-as-Unarmed-Intruder-Enters-White-House.html

    вот так

  13. Anonymous on September 20, 2014  ·  at 5:16 pm EST/EDT

    The Scottish pensioners feared losing their dole. Screw the working class.

  14. sweetwater on September 20, 2014  ·  at 6:01 pm EST/EDT

    2014/12/09. EU, US Introduce Sanctions on Russia’s Largest Banks, Energy and Defense Companies.

    Now, President Putin’s relentless retaliation:

    2014/12/09 Putin: “Not now, I’m on the phone!”

    2014/13/09 Putin: “My shoes are too tight!”

    2014/14/09 Putin: “Mumble, mumble, Angela has not called yet!”

    2014/15/09 Putin: “Shit, Angela is not responding, she is very proud, but she will surrender, my face is on the t-shirts.

    2014/16/09 Putin: “Did anyone called me?”

    2014/17/09 Putin: “Where are all my friends?”

    2014/18/09 Putin: “Yhuuuu! Is anyone there?”

    2014/19/09 Putin: “Now it’s starting the count-down. If at the end, nobody calls me, I will begin a terrible reprisal. Ten, …

    2014/20/09 Putin: “Nine and a quarter, nine and a half…

    2014/20/09 Medvedev: “I understand, Vladimir. I’ll take care of the matter. Enjoy and admire an expert!”

    http://en.ria.ru/world/20140920/193122750/Medvedev-Russia-Interested-in-Developing-Relations-With-European.html

    Medvedev: “Ueeeeeeeeeeh, ueeeeeeh, We value our European partners, we wish to develop relations with Europe…
    Baaaaaaaaaah, baaaaaaaaaaah, If European partners do not make some absurd decisions to oust us from this market, we will stay there…

    (Where the fuck did they be born, from some fag’s asshole?)

    In any case, we have presented the Moscow Circus!

    I give back to you the line!

    Eh Eh Eh

  15. Rootman on September 20, 2014  ·  at 7:16 pm EST/EDT

    @ Alien tech: The fact that Denisovan DNA has been found in Siberia does not mean that Europeans or Asian Russians carry much Denisovan DNA: most of it is found in Indonesia and oceania. All non Sun saharan africans carry Neanderthal DNA:

    http://www.unz.com/gnxp/the-erectus-within/?highlight=denisovans

    Razib Khan is a geneticist who publishes a lot about human genetic anthropology and is certainly worth checking out once in a while.

    What we do NOT need is all kinds of false mythologies about ´race´, even though it can seem attractive to stick labels. (but then, research never stops, so surprises might show up once in a while).

  16. sasy on September 20, 2014  ·  at 7:20 pm EST/EDT

    It was Labourite Tony Benn who, in 1970. first mooted the referendum that got us Brits to approve EU membership (Benn was against continued membership). Benn screwed it. The Scottish referendum was the result of pressure from SNP. They screwed it. Right? Ironic? No. Per se, referendums are a very dodgy business – to be handled with care and generally as a last resort – and inappropriate in this case at this time because the quality of what people had to say during the run-up to the referendum – either pro or contro – was truly absysmal…. as it shall contrinue to be be now the referendum’d over.

  17. Anonymous on September 20, 2014  ·  at 7:39 pm EST/EDT

    Salmon didn’t have to resign, but it’s what any decent politician does after losing and accepting the peoples decision and making way for new leadership.

    Anyone who thought Scotland was going independent has been watching Bravheart on repeat way too much. UK/ Westminister has vested interests and they will fight for “their world” especially in their backyard. You won’t see any civil war erupt between the Pro-unionist and pro-independent camps like you would see in other parts of the world. Come on man, you know all everyone care about is money in their pocket, it what puts bread and butter on the table.

    All UK/ Westminister now has to go is keep the Scottish “warm and sweet” through economics- give everyone jobs, create economic growth and in time as economy improves people sleep walk into status quo rather than drive towards in the arms of nationalism.

    Dire economic situation have driven all European countries into the arms of nationalism as histry has shown.

  18. Where-Wolf on September 20, 2014  ·  at 7:50 pm EST/EDT

    @sweetwater

    :) Funny.

    I’ll add three:

    2015/20/01 Putin: “I should like to save the Shire, if I could – though there have been times when I thought the inhabitants too stupid and dull for words, and have felt that an earthquake or an invasion of dragons might be good for them.”

    2015/22/01 Putin: “Launch invasion!”

    2015/29/01 Putin: “Crikey, that was easy.”

  19. Mulga Mumblebrain on September 20, 2014  ·  at 8:45 pm EST/EDT

    Serendipity, as there was no chance that Scottish Independence would ever be countenanced I suspect vote rigging, and am certain that Salmond would have been informed that protesting would render him liable to ‘extremely prejudicial’ action.

  20. Mulga Mumblebrain on September 20, 2014  ·  at 8:52 pm EST/EDT

    Murray, the UK ‘Establishment’ do not care whether the serfs live or die. These days with ecological carnage unfolding, they prefer that they die, after being silent and obedient. The Western MSM is a moral, ethical, intellectual and spiritual sewer, so their filthy bias vis-a-vis Scottish Independence was a given.

  21. Mulga Mumblebrain on September 20, 2014  ·  at 8:54 pm EST/EDT

    Murray, the UK ‘Establishment’ do not care whether the serfs live or die. These days with ecological carnage unfolding, they prefer that they die, after being silent and obedient. The Western MSM is a moral, ethical, intellectual and spiritual sewer, so their filthy bias vis-a-vis Scottish Independence was a given.

  22. Mulga Mumblebrain on September 20, 2014  ·  at 9:11 pm EST/EDT

    Alien Tech, the Western thirst for genocide lies in Judeo-Christian doctrine. As has been observed by many historians, the oldest extant descriptions of genocide as religious obligation and the source of religious satisfaction are found in the Judaic Torah, the Old Testament. No doubt there may have been earlier such dogma, but they have been lost to us.
    The massacres of Midianites, Moabites, Jebusites, Pjilistines and Canaanites in general were ordered by God, down to the last suckling babe in some cases, and even including domestic animals. Moreover there persist religious celebrations in Judaism of genocides at Passover (of the Egyptian first-born, including animals again) and Purim (of the 75,000 Persian followers of Haman). And we know that not a few, and powerfully influential, Israeli religious and political figures call for genocide against the Palestinians today.
    The early colonists in the USA were explicit in quoting the Old Testament genocides as justification for their exterminations of native tribes, and a general genocidal fervour gripped all the New Worlds subjected to European colonialism and imperialism. And the blood-letting was heavy even in great civilizations like China and India, where the English let Great Famines (up to the 1940s in Bengal) do the ‘carrying off’. The pathopsychology hasn’t changed one iota, as Ukraine and the West’s fervent preference for Nazis who proudly celebrate the genocides of 70 years ago, shows.

  23. Espina on September 20, 2014  ·  at 9:12 pm EST/EDT

    вот так

    19 September, 2014 22:58 Any chance you could copy and paste the translated text from the first site ? I don’t seem to be able to access that site. Thanks Espina

  24. Daniel Rich on September 20, 2014  ·  at 10:12 pm EST/EDT

    @ Sweatwater,

    Your pal Mikhail Khodorkovsky wants you to be the frontiersman of his New Anti Putin Party Yelp [NAPPY] division.

    C’mon, boy, go fetch that gnarly flip flop, ye lil’ tiger…

  25. Anonymous on September 21, 2014  ·  at 3:23 am EST/EDT

    Another example of divide and conqer
    http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/religion-inc/how-religious-conflicts-are-created.html

  26. Anonymous on September 21, 2014  ·  at 3:30 am EST/EDT

    I was watching the interview with Diane Feinstein immediately after Mr. Snowden escape and I was totally puzzled why she get so intensely mad that she said: “This man must to be hanged”
    It looks like here is the partial answer
    http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/israelpalestine/nsa-spies-on-us-citizens-for-israel.html

  27. Anonymous on September 21, 2014  ·  at 3:49 am EST/EDT

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    As he says, if we only vote for the
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  28. Anonymous on September 21, 2014  ·  at 5:10 am EST/EDT

    Sweatwater, Circus Hasbara

  29. sasy on September 21, 2014  ·  at 8:26 am EST/EDT

    Scottish votes (rigging suspicions aired: with talk of strange technology and about parallels, I think, with an Obama-Romney contest)

    http://en.ria.ru/world/20140918/193061475/Russian-Observers-Suspect-Special-Voting-Technologies-in.html

    Other irregularities including a fire in Dundee, and complaints calling for investigation

    http://aanirfan.blogspot.it/2014/09/vote-fraud-in-scottish-referendum.html

    plus

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oRg-VKuE68

    plus this vid says that it’s all rigged (thankfully, not an electronic system, so recounts can be asked for that should be credible; the girl just looks plain incompetent to me): But you may want to check that out: the vid’s here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUR-HgAtwtg

    Russian inspectors were in Scotland and have found the procedure flawed; The comment about the hangar or large warehouse is convincing, with ballot boxes all over the shop, at least to me as a non-expert. Their comment on the very high turnout
    I find less convincing. Unlike the Rusians I’m anything but surprised that so many of the the undecided voted, and, as I see it, mainly voted no; the high turnout make sense to me psychologically. I understand that, while Putin’s party triumphed in Russia recently, the turnout has been very low and even as low as 20% in Moscow… mmmm…

    http://www.sott.net/article/285995-Russian-accredited-election-observers-say-Scottish-referendum-badly-flawed

    PS The ONLY published media comment that I saw that struck me as at all valid was a headline, from alarabiya, which said “How to divide a country” (the article itself is wishy-washy but the headline is right)

    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/world/2014/09/18/The-Scottish-vote-How-to-divide-a-country.html

  30. Anonymous on September 21, 2014  ·  at 10:21 am EST/EDT

    We All know that the British Authorities know Every Aspect of Vote Rigging and Voting Fraud there is, and especially they are Experts in how Vote Rigging and Voting Fraud can be done in Britain and Scotland.

    They would have to know Everything to do with Vote Rigging and Voting Fraud, because How Else Could they even Hope to have any Free, Fair, and Honest Voting when it suits them?

    Westminster did not want Scotland to become Independent, and they have known for Years that Scotland was going to have an Independence Referendum, and so Westminster had Plenty of Time to Organize a Rigged Vote using Bribed Puppets in the Polling Stations who would Pose as Nationalists for this Event, if Westminster wanted to hinder Scotland’s Independence.

    People know where the British Parliament and the Scottish Parliament are situated for Peaceful Protests by British Subjects and Scottish Citizens, and If you type the words Scottish Referendum Rigged into an Internet Video search Engine, then you will see Evidence of Widespread and Systematic Voter Fraud, and Vote Rigging of Every Type, and this has led to Colour Revolutions in some European Countries.

    I am for Scotland being part of Britain if the Vote was Free, Fair, and Honest, and there is a Petition which is a demand for another Referendum on Scottish Independence that would be counted by Impartial International Parties at https://www.change.org/p/alex-salmond-we-the-undersigned-demand-a-revote-of-the-scottish-referendum-counted-by-impartial-international-parties .

    The Scottish People Voted to become Citizens of Scotland, rather than to be British Subjects, because their is no Citizenship Status in Britain, unless Britain amends its Colonialist Constitution to bring it up to this Century.

    Those Scottish People who Realize that the Independence Referendum Vote was Rigged, can rest assured that the Scottish People did show Respect for their Ancestors by Voting in a Majority to be no one’s Subject, but to be Citizens of a Free, Democratic, and Independent Scotland.

  31. Alien Tech on September 21, 2014  ·  at 12:09 pm EST/EDT

    Mulga Mumblebrain RE: the Western thirst for genocide lies in Judeo-Christian doctrine.

    I think it goes way way beyond that. I highly doubt religion has anything to do with it although it is used as a pretext of us Christians need to unite pretext.

    If you look at the great migrations out of africa but by different groups, the last group that got out wiped out the older populations where ever they found them except in some corners of Asia. But the older Europeans they only conquered instead of exterminating them. No doubt mass quantities of people died in these purges but they were not genocidal in the sense of total extermination where hardly any traces were left.

    Since this last group of Europeans have taken on every religion, it is hard to justify that religion is the primary motive. Since the Germans are almost like brothers to the British.. They still killed like 5 mil Germans. Separated by what less than 500 years of seperation? Compared to the Russians where its more like 2000 years. So it is still not on a genocidal scale.

    A Genocidal scale would be when Europeans invaded India 5000 years ago. Where the older human population disappeared from large parts of east Asia and Iran and those left only survived in the darkest parts of the jungles. Or what happened in North America which did contain one of the oldest remnants of the old humans from 70,000 years ago.

    The ultimate target here would be China. But Russia is in the way.

    Rootman Denisovan DNA was found in HAN Chinese to a small extent but none in Europeans. But the Australian bushmen has the most and considered the direct descendants of them. Yes small groups do exist on some islands but their numbers are far too small. But look at their beliefs. The bushman’s are also mostly spiritual rather than technological. This is where Europeans and other humans differ. Europeans believe they can be gods while everyone else believes other wise. It also means science has superseded practices and beliefs as well as knowledge. We do not know how to talk to the forefathers and spirits any longer. The further we move from the realm of science into the occult, the more desperate the Europeans are to exterminate the knowledge and those who posses it.

    But a real good question is, do these Anglo Zionists know of this knowledge? Do they know how to use it? I believe they do and seen indications of their use. But the rest of us are just sheep and we are given no choice but to believe what we are told and learn science which is not very effective in other realms of reality or to challenge their hold on power. If we are made in the image of God hence we also have God like powers, it only stands to reason that others who like to lord over us are no more powerful than the rest of us. But Science on the other hand can be controlled by money and power.

  32. Anonymous on September 22, 2014  ·  at 7:51 am EST/EDT

    We All know that the Scottish Referendum Vote was Rigged, and those who which to Research this can type the words: Scottish Referendum Rigged, into an Internet Search Engine, and they will see the Abundant Evidence of this.

    All British Politicians know this, and what we have seen is how the Scottish Parliamentarians, with the exception of Gordon Brown, have acted Honourably, with Alex Salmon being Exemplary in upholding the much sort after Characteristic of hushing up the Vote Rigging by resigning, because he and Many other Scottish Politicians know that this is the Diplomatic Thing to do under the Circumstances, while Many English Politicians Only want to cover up their Corruption over this Sordid Affair.

    The Real Reason these False Promises were made by Gordon Benedict Arnold Brown, and David Liar Cameron, is Not because it would have changed the Majority of the Voters Decision to Vote Yes for a Free, Democratic, and Independent Scotland.

    The Real Reason was to make it look like the Scottish Voters had a Reason to changed their Voting Intention, because the Orders were given to Rig the Election Result using Widespread Systematic Voter Fraud, and Vote Rigging of Every Type, for which Westminster are the Undisputed Experts.

    There are Many People who think that Gordon Benedict Arnold Brown, and David Liar Cameron should also immediately resign, even as Alex Salmon resigned after the Rigged Vote was announced, because they immediately went back on their ‘Honest Pledge’ to the Scottish People with their Promises of Maximum Devolution for Scotland.

    These were Convenient Lies, and there are Many Voters who think that the Only way to ensure a Vote on leaving the European Union is to Vote for UKIP at the next British Election.

    There are British Voters who think that to have a Stronger United Kingdom, then there needs to be a weaker England, and this can be done by increasing the number of Parliamentary Seats in Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland by 50 % , by making smaller Constituencies with fewer Voters in each of those Non English Seats, and reducing the Overall number of Politicians in Westminster, while possibly having an Elected Democratic Upper House for Britain.

  33. Anonymous on September 22, 2014  ·  at 1:15 pm EST/EDT

    We know that Alex Salmon did the Honourable Thing and resigned so as Not to bring up the issue of the Vote Rigging at the Scottish Independence Referendum, and Boris Johnson should Remember that he is saying that Alex Salmon is Legally a British Subject in Theory or on Paper at Least, and because of this, there are Many People who think that Alex Salmon Should Have the Right to Have, and the Right to Express an Opinion.

    This is because there are Many Scottish People who see him as the former Leader of a People, who have been Subjugated by a Rigged Vote, and it is the Height of Arrogance by Boris Johnson, and which is so Typical of Many of the English Elites to say that anyone in the current British Colony of Scotland should not have Freedom of Speech.

    There are Many People who think that there should be a Re Vote for Several Reasons, and this is because the Vote was Rigged, and we can see Boris Johnson and Other English Politicians Gloating over the Vote Rigging, and Gloating over the Broken Promises, which he knows were Lies at the time they were made, and they were made to look like Scottish Voters had a Reason to change their Vote just before the Referendum.

    The Other Reason is that there are those broken promises from Gordon Benedict Arnold Brown, and David Liar Cameron, and Ed liED Miliband.

    There are suggestions that the Federal Scottish Parliamentarians should Not Vote on what is termed English Only Matters, but that Definition of what English Only matters are in a Colonialist Parliament in London could be the subject of much debate and resentment, and it can be Easily be Abused by the Majority Colonialist English Parliamentarians in London, and are the Non English Parliamentarians really British, or are they really Foreigners, or are they second Class Subjects to be told when they can Vote in a Confederation of the 4 Countries of Britain.

    How can the British State Parliamentarians make Election Promises, with this problem of being Vetoed on Voting, by saying that their Election Promises are now English Only matters.

    There are Many Scots who think that it has Always Really been English Only Matters in the Colonialist Parliament in London, and there are Differing Reactions to the Vote Rigging, and this is why Many Scots are signing a Petition for a Just Re Vote of the Scottish Independence Referendum.

  34. Anonymous on September 22, 2014  ·  at 1:27 pm EST/EDT

    We All know that the Scottish Referendum Vote was Rigged, and those who which to Research this can type the words: Scottish Referendum Rigged, into an Internet Search Engine, and they will see the Abundant Evidence of this.

    All British Politicians know this, and what we have seen is how the Scottish Parliamentarians have acted Honourably, with the exception of Gordon Brown and a few Other Scottish Parliamentarians, and Alex Salmon being Exemplary in upholding the much sort after Characteristic of hushing up the Vote Rigging by resigning, because he and Many other Scottish Politicians know that this is the Diplomatic Thing to do under the Circumstances, while Many English Politicians Only want to cover up their Corruption over this Sordid Anti Democractic Affair.

    The Real Reason these False Promises were made by Gordon Benedict Arnold Brown, and David Liar Cameron, and ED liED Miliband, was Not because it would have changed the Majority of the Voters Decision to Vote Yes for a Free, Democratic, and Independent Scotland.

    The Real Reason was to make it look like the Scottish Voters had a Reason to changed their Voting Intention, because the Orders were given to Rig the Referendum Result using Widespread Systematic Voter Fraud, and Vote Rigging of Every Type, for which Westminster are the Undisputed Experts.

    There are Many People who think that Gordon Benedict Arnold Brown, and David Liar Cameron, and ED liED Miliband should also immediately resign, even as Alex Salmon resigned after the Rigged Vote was announced, because they immediately went back on their ‘Honest Pledge’ to the Scottish People with their Promises of Maximum Devolution for Scotland.

    These were Convenient Lies, and there are Many Voters who think that the Only way to ensure a Vote on leaving the European Union is to Vote for UKIP at the next British Election.

    There are British Voters who think that in order to have a Stronger United Kingdom, then there needs to be a weaker England, and this can be done by increasing the number of Parliamentary Seats in Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland by 50 % , by making smaller Constituencies with fewer Voters in each of those Non English Seats, and reducing the Overall number of Politicians in Westminster, while possibly having an Elected Democratic Upper House for a Confederation of the Countries of Britain.

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