Yesterday when I posted Egor Prosvirnin “appeal” I knew that I would catch hell for it. Also, and to be really honest, I had some reservations of my own about the content of this appeal. Still, I assumed that most readers would be aware that I sometimes post things here which I do not necessarily agree with, but which I find important, or interesting, or a good way to trigger a good conversation. Apparently, some are still clearly disturbed by that approach of mine.
My initial thought was to post this appeal but with an introductory note in which I would express some of my reservations. I even wrote it. But then I decided that this would be wrong. Prosvirnin’s appeal does not need any caveats or “sweeteners” from me. It stands on its own. Is it hostile or antagonistic? Hell yes it is! So what? Let us look at the context again. In very simple terms what is going on is the following:
The USA is waging an undeclared war on the Russian nation. In this war, the main “weapon” used is the EU and, in the EU, Germany. Or did we all suddenly forget the link that Germany had not only to Klichko, but also to the entire Maidan thing?! And how did it all begin? By Yanukovich announcing a delay in signing the Agreement with the EU. After that, it was an endless circus of EU politicians showing up on the Maidan to support the neo-Nazis.
Some posters here said that Prosvirnin’s appeal would antagonize or offend Germans. Sorry guys, but we are not talking about a tea party for old women were one guest is being rude to the host. We are talking about the victim of a war expressing his disgust at one of the key aggressors! Not only does Prosvirnin have no obligation to be nice or even polite to anybody in the EU, he has the full right to be furious, disgusted and outraged that a country which inflicted such unspeakable suffering upon the Russian people during WWII and which owes its very existence to the (frankly stupid) belief of the Russians in 1991 that western promises would be kept, would act in such an arrogant and hostile way as Germany does today. Right now, I would argue that any Russian has a moral right to be angry, offended and disgusted with any and all European nations as all of them are accomplices in this war against Russia (what else is new? this was also the case in 1812 and in 1939).
Furthermore, may I remind my critics here that this is hardly the first time Germany shows such a lack of, what shall we call it, “memorial sensitivity” maybe?
Look at the role Germany played in the destruction of Yugoslavia. One could have imagined that having put a regime such as Pavelic’s Ustashe in power (a regime I would argue was even worse the Nazi Germany!), Germans might want to keep a tad lower profile in Yugoslavia. But no!
It seems that Germany and the Germans have fully and totally allocated their “memorial sensitivity” to Jews, Israel and the memory of what the Nazis did to the Jews of Europe and that any other German or Nazi crimes simply don’t matter any more. So, even if we assume that the Nazis killed 6 million Jews (which is an outlandish, absolutely ridiculous figure!), this still means that they killed 3-4 times more Soviets (mostly Russians) during WWII. So why all that whining about murdered Jews and this deafening indifference towards murdered Russians or Serbs?
Could it be that there is a massive dose of hypocrisy at work here?
Mind you, I do not believe in collective guilt. Furthermore, I don’t even believe that the Germans behaved more shamefully during WWII than the Soviets, the USA, the Brits or anybody else. These countries were all were ruled by genocidal regimes which by 1939 had killed more people than Hitler ever did. And even the conquered European nations were so full of willing collaborators that they also deserve to feel ashamed. With a few possible exceptions like the Roms or Liechtenstein, pretty much everybody behaved in a shameful way during WWII. So I am not singling out Germany or the German people. But what I am saying is that Prosvirnin has the moral right to his outrage and that those Germans who are offended by it might want to reflect on it’s causes.
Okay, so maybe Prosvirnin has the moral right to his anger, but that hardly means that this anger is constructive. What about the risk of offending, alienating or otherwise inflaming anti-Russian feelings in Germany?
To this I will answer that trying it the “nice way” certainly did not put even a small dent in the German anti-Russian policies. In fact, Putin did very calmly and respectfully speak to the German people earlier this year, but with the notable exception of a few heroic figures, most Germans just did not seem to care for what he had to say. And on a more individual level, there have been numerous articles, analyses and appeals published in Russia and elsewhere showing that Russia and Germany are natural allies (or should be), that Germany has nothing to gain by allying itself to Ukie Nazis or the AngloZionists. Numerous Russians have placed their hopes into somehow driving a wedge between Germany and the USA and finally getting Germany to develop some kind of independent foreign policy. And the results of all these nice and friendly appeals? *Nothing*. Nothing at all.
So why in the world would Germans expect all Russians to continue to be friendly, non-hostile, non-inflammatory, constructive, polite and respectful?!
So maybe it is high time for a good, strong, slap in the face?
Then comes the last argument: the German people are opposed to the US colonial regime in power (aka the German government). Is this not a bad thing for Russia if the German people become offended and alienated?
No. Not in the least.
For one thing, if the action (or lack thereof) of the German public today is indicative of what a non-offended and non-alienated German general public acts like, then who in Russia should give a damn about it anyway? It is not only Germany, by the way. The proud European people are all acting like zombies, like robots, like automatons which have fully accepted the state propaganda and who are now stuck in a drunken russophobic stupor.
There is a Nazi regime in power in a major European country, it is clearly and unambiguously racist and illegal, it is using ballistic missiles against its own people, and it has caused the biggest movement of refugees since WWII, and yet the European general public does not seem to give a damn. Sure, like during WWII, there is a small percentage of heroic man and women who resist like Sophie Scholl or Jean Moulin did. Today, this means fighting the information war and protesting by all possible means against the actions of the regimes in power. And unlike Scholl or Moulin, those who resist today in the EU don’t even risk their lives, and yet there are so few – most do not care.
Until Russia imposed her own sanctions against the EU’s agriculture.
Then, suddenly, politicians in Austria, France, Finland and elsewhere grew a conscience, literally overnight, and now they want dialog and say that confrontation is unproductive. Better late then never I guess.
All this is to say that if I don’t necessarily agree with every word Egor Prosvirnin wrote and if I myself would have said it differently, I strongly believe that his message of anger and total disgust is absolutely appropriate and that those who don’t like what they read better get used to it, as there will be a lot more coming out of Russia, possibly even more angry and more disgusting.
Like many key things in life, respect is earned. It cannot be demanded. And yes, Prosvirnin clearly has no more respect for the EU than Victoria Nuland.
Why should they? Why should anybody?
The Saker
@Anonymous:I’m in shock the so many participants /especially Germans /on this blog didn’t get the message and they were attacking you even ridiculing you / you are double sided, how ridiculous accusation /.
First, thank you for your kind words. To be honest, I am shocked too. I think that this is the first time that a post – not even by me – elicits such a shitstorm against me. To be honest, I think that under the “defense of Germans and Germany” there is at least one, possibly two, political agendas at work here. I am sick and tired with fighting off strawmen, so I won’t go into it all here, but I just wanted you to know that I believe that most Germans do not at all have the same reaction as these putative “defenders of Germans and Germany” (most of whom are not German, of that I am quite sure!). To be sure, I am disappointed and discouraged by these attacks, but the kind words of support and understanding I also got these days will keep me going through these bad moments: one heartfelt “thank you” weighs so much more than 1000 insults :-)
Many thanks and kind regards,
The Saker
To Jana @ 23:03
The “GRÜNEN” as a former civil rights and ecology party with their hatred of Russia are worse than our Government.
The German Green Party is a Trotskyite project from the let-go. There is nothing ‘humanitarian’ about this party. It’s essentially a Zionist entity: pro-Israel, anti-German and also anti-Russian.
It represents a continuation of the Stalinist/Trotskyite struggle in which Stalin ‘betrayed’ the revolution (and I am not a communist, far from it) and purged the USSR from the Trotskyite menace. The Trotskyites care less about economy, and more about culture. They are responsible for things like white privilege (for which there is no cure…), creating schism between men and women, importing millions of non-Europeans to our lands (someone in the Green Party wanted to bring 200.000 sub-Saharan Africans to Germany as ‘asulym seekers’, i.e. the refuge scam), promoting the idea that reproductive coupling and homosexual couples are ‘equal’, despite the fact that the generalization of the latter, supposedly ‘normal’, would spell the end of the human species.
Please, read this article by an old German gentleman:
https://wikispooks.com/Lux/MC23Green.html
The Greens are the enemy of Germany and Russia. Indeed, of white people in general. They are mental cases that get the money for their craziness. Environmentalism is a cover for their more sinister agenda. Their friends are Israel and US Deep State.
Germans have many times acted against their own interests in their relations with Russia, renouncing a mutually profitable alliance for the dubious benefits of plundering its former ally, with catastrophic consequences for them. And that only to repeat them.
It looks like a death wish from their part. They might be served again.
1. As we are posting Uncle Sam is bringing a huge quantity of offensive
weapons in their Norway mountain base. That’s near Russian border. And
that’s a fact. May be if Norway gets a few medium power nukes from
Russia, Uncle Sam will try not to escalate it to a level that will
cause nuclear darkness. Who knows? There will be some “collateral
damage” and Uncle Sam might become wiser.
2. It is irrelevant if small percentage of Germans are against Anglo
Zionist Empire. What really counts is official policy of German
Government. They represent majority of voters and majority of voters
are responsible for acts of German Government. If Serbs were
sanctioned in order to move Milosevic than the same logic applies for
Germans. German citizens are responsible for their government. They
must be punished if their government is doing something bad.
Remember that economic sanctions and bombing of Serbia are done in
order to make pressure on Serbs to remove Milosevic. West did not bomb
Milosevic, but Serbian people, because they held Serbian people
responsible for electing him. In the same way US citizens, German
citizens, etc. are responsible for their government. They should be
bombed if their government shows hostility towards Russia, not the
legally elected governments.
@ SAKER
When you don’t see that the integral publishing of Prosvirnin’ article without a trace of distance is in fact stepping in the shoes of the manipulator, whereby publishing it in this manner in front of those who freed themselves from their manipulators, defines the boundaries of your empathy and the outreach of your blog.
Don’t blind yourself by the idea that your criticists are just insulting you, instead of plain anxious.
And… be aware of compliments.
By the way: I’m Dutch and still missing my stolen bike.
Feng
The appeal is totally justified.
But people have been brainwashed by lies, propaganda and shocking rhethoric here.
Greetings from Germany. We need a lot more slaps in our faces.
@Saker,
Bravo friend. While some have seemingly missed the point, many seem to understand your reasoning. If we may suggest an article,oddly enough it was recently published, for all to explore and ponder…
Factors that support collective intelligence and wisdom
Tom Atlee August 11, 2014
Many factors play a role in how collectively intelligent or wise a group, system, or situation is. Here I offer tentative lists of factors that enhance collective stupidity, collective guesstimations (the “wisdom of crowds” phenomenon), collective intelligence, and collective wisdom. I invite readers to add their own thoughts about this in the comment section below this blog post.
Some colleagues have asked that I discuss what contributes to collective intelligence and wisdom, compared to the criteria for Wisdom of Crowds-type “guesstimation” exercises – and, in contrast, what contributes to collective stupidity.
I’ll sort some of this out in the tentative lists below, intending them to be provocative, to be worked over and extended. They constitute one approach to understanding this vast and remarkable field. My suggestion to you is to think about what you might add, change, critique, or do differently, and add a note about that in the comments section below this blog post.
For this inquiry I am imagining four types of collective cognition: collective stupidity, collective guesstimation, collective intelligence, and collective wisdom. Let’s look at some factors that support each of these. Note that culture, context, system design, process design, process facilitation, servant leadership, and many other factors can make profound differences in which of these manifests in a particular collective, system, or situation.
http://www.tomatleeblog.com/?p=175327179
@Larchmonter445
there are a whole lot of interpretation. I think they all are correct. Both pro-Novorossia and pro-Kiev forces in both Ukraine and Russia acted for it. Now they try to rip benefits from it and we have to wait and see who was stronger and smarter, whose intrigue would work and who would see his plans deteriorated.
The war sis a path of disguise. No one would tell you all the reasons they had. But it does not matter, because all the plans would be damaged more or less by rivaling plans , so you or my guess is never worse than the ideas of the game players.
Do your own thinking, or just wait for few days and see the tendencies, see which party would manage to make more benefits from the happened
Bitch slap the Krauts!
I have always been leery of the Germans and absolutely loathe the Nazis from anywhere. And, Nazism/Zionism are two sides of the same fascistic coin.
This article by Egor Prosvirnin is absolutely to the point. Germany are world champions not only in football but also in hypocrisy. Like they always put on sack and she’s because of the holocaust while in reality they still retained the old anti-semitic views. Did they ever think about the many millions of murdered Russians and the destruction of half of Russia? No way. If anything they moan and groan about Dresden and about Germany driven from Silesia and Eastern Prussia.
However… just like it was in 1933 there is a minority (MINORITY!) of people who thought and who think differently. They basically live like strangers in their own country. (Ah… yes, says a German).
oooh! Kolomoisky stronk!
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/08/14/rudyk/
Poroshenko sent his landmarking minister to Dnepropetrovsk to take control of owning and leasing lands.
Kolomoisky gave him a gun and sent to fight into Donbass.
What a reality show!!!
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/08/15/border1/
ukrainian borderguards started to check humanitarian aid convoy at russian Dontesk gates against the rebels-help ukrainian gates Izvarino
Looks like Kiev would let the trucks pass
Germany is still occupied by the Zionist menace. The evidence is clear.
1) Subsidised manufacture and supply to terrorist and crime state israel of Dolphin submarines ( two of which have been recently sunk ).
2) Continued payments of reparations in leui of holohoax guilt.
3) Criticising the official holocaust mythology leading to arrest and imprisonment.
4) The post WW2 treaties.
Also interesting is the continued post war employment of Gehlen by the BND, Gehlen worked as a CIA agent after 1945.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/06/05/germany-still-under-the-control-of-foreign-powers/
Saker, let me tell you, as a non-German European (I’m from Italy): we’ve had enough of the Germans. We’re just now starting to realize we’ve been butchered with austerity measures imposed by a German-led central bank that favored the German economy. Back when Germany fueled the civil war in Yugoslavia we stupid dumbasses didn’t realize we’d be next on the chopping block. Our leadership run to bow to Merkel even before showing up in Parliament. Germany has proven to be an extremely unreliable and untrustworhty “ally”, more than ready to doublecross and sacrifice its own “friends” for an even minimal gain. Funniest part is that the French are starting to realize they’ve been fucked over by the Germans too. Germans get offended by this? Well, if they’re so sensitive, they better stop treating friends and allies like slaves and dirt, untermenschen deserving only to serve the better German nation.
Sorry fot the rant.
@Larchmonter445
Below is one possible interpretation of Girkin’s resignation taken from puely military point of view intentionally omitting any pollitical consequences
http://centerkor-ua.org/mneniya/ukrainskij-front/item/2124-prishlo-vremya-bolshikh-batalonov.html
For the record, I thought what
Prosvirnin had to say, other than the Jew nonsense, was right on. Germany disgusts me as much as my own country (USA) and I’ve been astounded at how they’re marching right into ANOTHER fucking war. The recklessness is mind blowing. I guess the same can be said for the rest of Europe, as well. What short memories they all have. Unlike Americans who have not been subjected to a shooting war on home turf since the 1860s, Europeans have no excuse to think it won’t come to their own doorstep. Hello? Does Germany want that kind of nigtmare again? What the fuck is the matter with these governments to have so little SELF interest that they forget just a few decades ago? If this blows up bigger than it already is, Europe WILL ground zero, again. Insane, shameful, dangerous. If I were Russian, I would hate Germany. They absolutely cannot be trusted.
Saker ,
Thanks for your blog , that I follow every day .
Here in the EU ( I am from Italy ) all the political parties
and the mass media are controlled by the Zionist .
Obammer rings the President of the Republic and immediately the government will obey .
The country is a dictatorship run by the secret services . Yesterday i received an official note to present myself at the local agency of the Public Health Department for mental assessment . I asked the government’s local representative for an interview about the fact that we are being monitored by the spooks . Apparently asking questions about government criminality is a no no .
And this is the EU !!!
I am sorry about Strelkov , he achieved a lot with scarce resources . I think that the Novorussian resistance should be grateful to him .
On another topic . The Hollow fraud
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=85432
only 271 thousand people died in concenctation camps according to the Red Cross .
http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/06/red-
cross-expose-jewish-holocaust-hoax/
Be well
Anti EU from TRST
@Emm + Nora
You have to distinguish Germans as individuals who can vouch only for their own life and actions and Germans as a people with a history and historic responsibility. I did clearly state that an individual on his/her own can’t do much. But clearly as a people Germans do have a responsibility and their are not fulfilling their responsibility. And again, for Germany once again to support nazis is absolutely unacceptable. It has nothing to do with me hating my German half, it is precisely because I deeply respect and love my German half that I am so vocal about the degradation taking place now. AS A PEOPLE Germans have a responsiblity to never again support nazism anywhere, and there can be no excuse. I am proud to be a German, but I am deeply ashamed that my government supports Ukie nazis, and I am even more ashamed that my fellow Germans don’t stand up and kick them out.
Don’t you dare accusing me of self-hatred! I love Germany, the Germany of workers, philosophers, poets, scientists, artists, inventors etc. That’s my Germany. The Germany of BILD, Merkel, EU, whores of the US, ultracapitalists etc is an abomination. That is not my Germany.
Emm, when you said “Nestbeschmutzer” then it became instantly clear to me who you are. I have heard this term only be used by ultra-conservatives and extreme right-wingers.
sovereigntea 09:26
The Germans really are a sucker for the reparations scam. Do you have a reference for the sinking of the two Dolphin submarines?
Speaking of Berlin’s position on affairs in Ukraine, the chancellor said: “One of the EU’s fundamental principles is that we, the Europeans, respect territorial integrity of our states, and that we do not change borders unilaterally.”
Ukraine should be able “to make its own free and democratic decisions” about the country’s constitution and policy, and the degree of independence of Ukraine’s eastern regions, Merkel said. “Russia should also accept it,” she added.
Germany talks with forked tongue! Or they are having a real bad case of amnesia. Dont forget the humanitarian bombings of Libya and Afghanistan and at least they stayed out of Iraq which might be because they thought they were not man enough to bomb defenseless ayrabs. Every statement seems to precede with a lie.
@ Anonymous15 August, 2014 09:12
Thank you! In my youth I lived abroad many years and when I returned I felt exactly like you, a stranger in my country.
Even if I understand the rancor of the other European people, it still hurts me that so many of you hurl accusations at all Germans. Believe me, we too are being butchered with austerity measures and that by our own government. If nothing happens we will end in poverty (Hartz IV) like all people in the EU. And as Germans simply do not riot (remember Lenin, “If the Germans staged a revolution at the train station, they would buy tickets for the platform first”) I simply put my hope on those Europeans who can do a Revolution to blow up the whole EU together with our government …
As a german citizen, living in Germany, I had to fully agree with (almost?) every word of the appeal.
The archcorrupt politicsters of this country act in a criminally reckless way and the mainstream media mafia is simply running amok.
The cynism of the pandemic Orwellspeak has become unbearable when recently each and every member of the ruling caste of this county mindlessly parroted that “the lesson of 1914 must be remembered” and then they turned around and agitated against The Evil Putin.
Max Uthoff has said pretty much what any human being with more intelligence than the average gully cover thinks about the behaviour of the psychotic pondscum that rules this country:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXzA6JBV1hM
(sorry, no english subtitles)
But the point is; The minds of loads of sheeple in this country are actually numbed down to the level of a gully cover.
And the rest has no media to make their voices heard.
The participants of the “vigilants for peace” taking place in over 100 german cities have been masively defamed as being nazi sympathisers – among others, by the Springer press that has been exhibiting itself daily as a veritable successor of the Stürmer!
Sorry for posting this again but my spell checker messes up things towards the unreadable if I don’t pay enough attention. I hope this is now better:
This article by Egor Prosvirnin is absolutely to the point. Germans are world champions not only in football but also in hypocrisy. Like they always put on sack and ashes because of the holocaust while in reality they still retain the old anti-semitic views not to mention a stack of other prejudices. Did they ever think about the many millions of murdered Russians and the destruction of half of Russia? No way. If anything they moan and groan about Dresden and about Germans driven from Silesia and Eastern Prussia.
However… just like it was in 1933 there is a minority (MINORITY!) of people who thought and who think differently. They basically live like strangers in their own country. (Ah… yes, says a German).
Who is playing chess with nations. Ever heard all wars were bankers wars.
The thumbification of people trained to believe government is master above all is the business of concerne, allowing to summarize a war in a broader context of a brawl between Peter, Paul and Jenny and its Annex.
You can comfortably hook on that narrative history would be done by governments, countrys, gangs with a respectable army.
How much a character of a nation is traded on the stock exchange. If a nation there is worth anything then not by its history plunder.
The Germans were boiling up a revenge for Stalingrad. German culture is gone bankster, but that remain is left. Ding-dong, round three.
Enjoy the casino that it is to bed with prejudices, vague information about the behavior, character and resulting combat strenght of a nation on the outcome of what the world of finance secretly has ordered.
There is Brecht who has stamped in brain the comparison of Germany and Carthago which is very unfortunate for the first. Is it worth the bid that at least a sum of soldiers from Germany not exceeding what you can count down with the fingers of one hand, while digging trenches against the the Russian army, will have such a lecture in their knapsack.
See you in the history class when all the yet pending has happened.
“…pretty much everybody behaved in a shameful way during WWII.” No sir. Not the Greeks…Not one Greek fighting with the Germans against Russia…”
Yes, Greeks did well in the WWII. Serbs too…
To Wolfgang @ 17:36
The participants of the “vigilants for peace” taking place in over 100 german cities have been masively defamed as being nazi sympathisers – among others, by the Springer press that has been exhibiting itself daily as a veritable successor of the Stürmer!
Why are they being defamed as nazis? What do the media outlets defaming the participants say?
Angelika,
I am aware that Germany was the first to apply austerity measures but compare the outcome with austerity measures forced to Greece (by the Germany)
1. There is at least 300% rise in suicides since the introduction of austerity measures
2. Health budget lowered from 10% of GDP to 6%. Not enough money for moskito control – malaria is again in Greece
3. Public debt jumped from 115% of GDP to 170%
For me, as a Serb, these are not austerity measures but crime against humanity! After the austerity measures Greeks will live better if they survive at all.
@ saker
if you piss off all germans in general, you also piss off the friends you’ve had there.
someone from germany
it’s like if i would say: hey saker, you live in florida, why don’t you overthrow the US government?
someone from germany
Anonymous,
How do you think it looks to Russians when all German and Western European press piss off all Russian people and their President? Or to Serbs when the Western media do the same to them and their President? There is no Milosevic anymore but Western attitude towards Serbia is now even worse than when he was alive. Which means that he was no problem. Westerners simply hate Serbs and Russians and want to grab their resources. They must prepare their people for the war against Russia and media are serving that purpose.
Few of us are expressing deep dissatisfaction with German attitude in a private blog but that is a whole new level when German mass media in general are doing that against Russian or Serbian people. Nothing like that was ever seen in Serbia or Russia and we have much more reasons to that against Germany!
One should not forget the negative role of the neo-German intellectual superstucture, one can watch them in their vile propaganda actions night after night on their abysmal television talk shows and “Frühshoppen”. Compared to these “artists “, “champions” and showbiz people who have an opinion on everything and who wouldn’t hesitate to say the earth is flat if it suited them,always grinning , laughing, and making irony, Goebbels is a small amateur in propaganda techniques.They have an importan role in the general brainwashing of today’s Germans, why they try to theorize the news given at 8 pm by the “Nachrichten” of ZDF and others; one of the only exceptions is the remarkable journalist/reporter Peter Scholl-Latour, who once said during one of these shows : “I didn’t know the North Atlantic is close to the Hindu Kuch, I missed that one in my geography courses as a student”!
EBOLA or worse is coming.
Diseases do not try to figure out what a person is or what nationality, culture or language group they belong to.
The Germans, The Russians, The Jews, The Americans…etc.
All does not matter. What we will see is a clear separation between the elite and ruling class & the rest.
With 17 infected, contagious Ebola patients disappearing into a slum of 100.000 to 160.000 in Liberia, Monrovia and lots of Africans making it across the Mediterranean on unsanitary crowded boats, this might be a new plaque.
Why right this here on this post?
If this virus breaks loose internationally The Ukraine & ISIS might become small side events in a few months time.
I hope I am wrong.
This “comment” function sucks. Not even possible to refer to a comment for replying.
> > The participants of the “vigilants for peace” taking place in over
> > 100 german cities have been masively defamed as being nazi
> > sympathisers – among others, by the Springer press that has been
> > exhibiting itself daily as a veritable successor of the Stürmer!
>
> Why are they being defamed as nazis?
Because they oppose the politicsters and the mainstream media mafia. Because they publicly speak about facts that are not mentioned in any of the mainstream media.
> What do the media outlets
> defaming the participants say?
Simply that these people are “neo-nazis”, and “anti-semits” and basta. And then all the braindead sheeple will not participate, because they’re hopelessly brainwashed.
Just some prominent speakers at those events (every monday in every major city):
– Jürgen Elsässer (a self-confessed socialist)
– Ken Jebsen (an “empiric” non-partisan dissident)
– Evelyn Hecht-Galinski (daughter of the ex-president of the “jewish central council”, he was a Holocaust survivor) – a “neo nazi”?
I know I am bit late but I wish to give my comments.
The first casualty of war is truth! Also remember it is the victors or write (official) history.
NatSoc Germany was forced into WW II. (She should have been smart about it but she wasn’t). The huge deaths of Soviets are not completely due to NatSoc Germany. Many of the Soviet citizens were killed by their own barbaric government, either openly or covertly. (Remember Soviet agents dressing up in German uniforms and burning down villages in order to turn public opinion against the Germans also remember the absolute murderous tactics of the Soviet leaders using their soldiers as cannonfodder). The NatSoc were generally more “restrained” in their conduct of warfare than the Allies.
Since 1945 Germany has been occupied and it is true that the occupied German state has acted in a hostile manner during the Yugoslav war. This is because the leaders in Germany do not represent what is best for their people or rest of Europe (unlike the NatSoc). They are heavily influenced by USA. The people have been so strongly brainwashed during “denazification” and this is kept up tacitly in schools, mass media and state institutions, that if a German were to question this history, he could go to jail!!
In my opinion I do not feel Germany can free herself of the occupation as most of the powerful people in society (doctors, lawyers, engineers, judges etc) are from a generation that was heavily “denazified”. Once this generation passes away, it may be possible for the youth (who are beginning to privately question the official history) to gain a measure of independence but I am not optimistic.