This comment, in response to the post ‘The Daesh Chronicles:…”, was selected by mod-hs. He felt that it provided an alternative view of the current world situation, a view that sees everything going quite well for the US and NATO, with all goals being met. Quite cynical and thought provoking.
by FromSerbia
The author writes: “It was as if they did not learn from Afghanistan…Iraq…Libya” My question is – learn what? All 3 cases are a resuonding success for the empire. Look at the facts:
Afghanistan – total chaos rules in the heart of Central Asia. Heroin production is better than ever. ISIS is spreading fast and radical Wahhabis are poised to threaten CSTO members, and Russia and China, eventually.
Iraq – total chaos and lawlessness rules large parts of Iraq. The central gov is weak and cant do much about the lawlessness. The Kurds can declare independence and get away with it because there is no one to stop them. Through the destruction of Iraq they facilitated the creation of ISIS since the core of the organization is made up of ex Iraqi officers and soldiers. I presume that the plan was also to have ISIS infiltrate Iran and Caucuses once they were done in Syria/Iraq.
And lastly, Libya. Besides plain robbery of the Ghadaffi family in particular, and the Libyan and African people in general, the goal was once again chaos. Instability in Libya means instability in all surrounding regions. Egypt will never finish off Muslim Brotherhood so long as there is a jihad highway coming in from Libya. Tunis is threatened, and so is another gov that the empire would love to bring down – Algeria. Mali has been taken under control of the empire due to Libya’s instability. All of east, west, and central Africa is threatened by ISIS. So Libya, perhaps, is the biggest success of the empire.
Lastly, let’s take a quick look at why this was panned. Refugees, and terrorist infiltrators, are not some blowback – it is a planned campaign. The first part of the plan was to surround America’s “allies” (read, colonies) by chaos from the south (all of Levant and south coast of Middle Earth Sea – yes, thats how we call it in Serbia – ruled by ISIS & collaborators such as Muslim Brotherhood and assorted local Wahhabi lunatics); the second part of the plan is the threat represented by the big bad bear from the east and north (Arctic).
Is the plan working? It is, and magnificently. True, the empire cant get their natural gas pipeline to Europe, just yet. They certainly won’t stop trying. In the meantime, NATO presence in Europe, and around Russia and China in general, is being drastically strengthened. For now, it’s just another American battalion here and there, but the long term buildup is obvious. The NATO forces serve 2 purposes in Europe:
1st (and foremost) to occupy Europe and keep it in America’s grip tightly. 2nd purpose is to threaten Russia. Has the empire succeeded with respect to both purposes? Spectacularly. Destroying all those countries was a resounding success for the empire.
Whats a few thousand American/ NATO soldiers/ cannon fodder lives in the end? To the empire it means nothing.
Whats a trillion dollars spent, more or less? How hard is it for them to just add a few more digits into electronic accounts, or print more dollars? Who’s going to stop them?
And now, let’s talk about the refugees, and terrorist infiltrators. Is somebody actually trying to argue that the planners of Arab Spring (but really, Arab fall) didnt anticipate the mass migration? That it wasn’t planned, and supported by colonial EU governments? Don’t be fooled by Mogherinis crocodile tears. She is probably dancing on the graves of the victims right now.
The goal behind the refuge crisis is, once again, chaos. Surprised? Don’t be. The Saker said that he expects popular revolutions across the EU, starting with the rebellious and free spirited people of France. He expects them to say “enough is enough” to their respective colonial governments. So do I. And so does the empire. Hence the terrorist infiltrators. All of EU will burn before they are free of imperial oppression. When people do rise, first will come attempts to co-opt them, and hijack popular revolutions. Syriza anyone? If that doesn’t work, the empire will do what it does best – create chaos. There will be war in Europe.
The war in Europe can take on many forms: right vs. left; Christian vs. Muslim; terrorist vs. police/army. It doesn’t matter. The point is, Europe will burn.
The empire will never allow any colonies to become free. EU, Japan, Korea, and Wahhabi kingdoms will all burn before they are free. The logic is very simple, yet exceptionally effective. When the rich and powerful who are used to neoliberalism face the prospect of their entire country burning before their eyes, where will they go? Russia, China, or USA?
The rich will move to USA, bringing their wealth and thus allow the empire to continue to prosper, for a while longer. The USA will continue to play the role of bastion of economic/political/security stability while the world burns. Thats how they are going to remain powerful for now and the foreseeable future.
The empire does not look ahead for 1,2 or 5 years, nor does it aimlessly wander from one crises to another depending on the presidential administration. Their plans are set for decades, even centuries ahead, and all apparatchiks work towards the realization of the plans that are far bigger than them.
There are no mistakes or coincidences in the policies of the empire. Iraq and Libya (and all victims of the empire) were not mistakes; it was policy. The policy will continue. It seems that the witch Hillary Clinton is to become the public face of the empire. A criminal (according to American law) & a lunatic like her coming to “power” signals that the empire’s policy if chaos and destruction of nations is about to go into overdrive.
I hope that Donald Trump represents the other side of empires policy, the need to retreat and regroup in the face of recent defeats. Although I sincerely doubt that anything will change regardless of who is the president, or, better put, the public face of the empire.
Fully agree!!!
NBC report from 1967 on how the US empire brought “freedom and democracy” to Indonesia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB2JydomU0o&t=11m
Exactly right
Talk of usa failure in Iraq Afghanistan is just wishful thinking.
I accept everything written in this comment by FromSerbia. But just because it’s true doesn’t mean they’ll win.
Evil can never win. Simple logic can draw a picture of total evil, with nothing left to destroy except itself, and thus in which only goodness can make the next move. Evil is the greatest lost cause, and the most foolish occupation for any human to engage in.
Arrayed against the plan of empire is the ruthless compassion of the universe, which has mandated that all things are impermanent. People die, people are born, and people change even in their own lifetime. The effect of just one individual can be to shift entire paradigms. And within all the careful plans are uncertainties, the incompetence of both those who order and those who obey, and the caprice of happenstance.
Meanwhile, only the good is worth pursuing. Let’s fight this empire, and let’s die in the cause of goodness. Let the idea of goodness triumph over all ideas, even as the evil revel in their filth. Only with the idea of goodness alive and shining, can those lost to evil ever think of alternative ways to live.
And when it comes to the reckoning – and all things come to a reckoning – of who lived the better life, the evil or the good: do we even need to ask?
You’re right, Grieved, in taking the Long View.
From Serbia was right, where he or she stopped.
It’s spiritual emptiness on automatic pilot. But more passengers on the Ship of Fools are waking up to the fact that the captain and crew are devil worshipers who have zero care for the fate of their passengers. Way past time for a mutiny.
”Arrayed against the plan of empire is the ruthless compassion of the universe, which has mandated that all things are impermanent. People die, people are born, and people change even in their own lifetime. The effect of just one individual can be to shift entire paradigms. And within all the careful plans are uncertainties, the incompetence of both those who order and those who obey, and the caprice of happenstance”.
This is a remarkable and beautiful paragraph. I hope too that so many of us who feel weak and impotent in the face of the ’empire of chaos’ might take courage in the fact that earthly power and prestige is ‘nothing special’ when diluted into the universal space. Thinking like this, the potency of individual focused thoughts and actions may be of much greater significance than we think. So…let’s not give up the good fight!
I agree that the plan to destroy Europe and the Middle East is going famously, and that little to none of this chaos we see is accidental. But you propose the people behind this wave of chaos are doing it in order to strengthen America, and prolong the existence of the US Empire.
In this you are badly wrong, and failing to understand the true objective. Remember we’re talking about the Elites here. The 0.000001%, the ones at the apex of all power and finance pyramids. They do NOT care about any particular nation. Least of all the nation of supposedly free people, whose traditional spirit, free speech and gun rights are a direct threat to the Elites. And so have been most under attack by all possible means for many decades.
The Elites who speak often and sometimes on record, of reducing the world’s population to well under one billion, preferably around 500 million according to them. The same scum that control the pharma companies producing vaccines which trigger brain-crippling auto-immune disorders, the same who push poisons like Aspartame and MSG, sterilants like Stevia, and the complex poisons of gene-edited foodstuffs. People like Bill Gates and his “with the right vaccines we can reduce population by 15%” comments.
Mostly they cloak such talk in the robes of environmental holiness, “to save Mother Earth!” and so on. Maybe some Elites even believe that, sometimes. But really they just want a sparsely populated Eden Earth, in which a small, uneducated population of serfs labors to proved a miniscule Elite hereditary class with all luxury and pleasures of dictatorship. It’s the ultimate Ego-trip, and may also involve present or anticipated immortality treatments for them, the rulers. But not for the serfs of course.
Do you think when these people talk of achieving a total global population of under 500 million (from the current 7 billion) they are joking? Or speaking of some far distant time, generations away? No! They mean within their lifetime. As soon as possible. Preferably NOW, but if it takes a few years that’s OK. Just not too many years.
How do you think they are going to achieve that? I mean really, if you had trillions of dollars and the almost total political control these people have, how would you do it? Bearing in mind that the process has to avoid waking up the world’s population to what they are doing, resulting in them all getting hung or burned at the stake by enraged mobs.
You’d proceed to orchestrate a rapid slide into global political and economic chaos, in which a series of terrible and apparently uncontrolled disasters and conflicts snowballed into a general breakdown of everything. Completely by itself, with a few ‘useful villains’ like ISIS in the stew to serve as scapegoats. The end purpose being a condition so extremely chaotic and confusing, that some event bringing the demise of over seven billion people appeared to be just another in a long string of surprising and unplanned disasters.
Personally, I expect widespread warfare, possibly a few nukes, leading into a scary plague of some kind, that makes everyone fearful enough to accept a mass inoculation campaign. And THAT will be the kill shot, that terminates billions of lives. Why do you think the public are being conditioned to think all vaccines are wonderful (when many definitely are not), and laws passed to make them mandatory?
The recent ebola scare (that was actually something more complex, involving poisoned water supplies in parallel with an infectious agent) was probably another trial exercise. In a long line of acts, with Bush, 911, both Iraq wars, Afghanistan, Obama, and so on all being actors in the process. Hillary is just the next act.
TerraHertz
“Remember we’re talking about the Elites here. The 0.000001%, the ones at the apex of all power and finance pyramids.”
0.000001% of 300 million people in the US is 3 people. Are you trying to say that 3 people in the US run everything? I think you got your math wrong by many orders of magnitude.
“But really they just want a sparsely populated Eden Earth, in which a small, uneducated population of serfs labors to proved a miniscule (sic) Elite hereditary class with all luxury and pleasures of dictatorship.”
You can’t be serious. Small uneducated population of serfs can’t run the advanced technological civilization that we live in, let alone advance the technology further. Do you expect that minuscule hereditary elite is going to create all the technological progress all by itself?
You are spreading panic but your “predictions” don’t even make sense.
0.000001% of 7 billion. Global not just USA. Makes seven hundred, and that’s probably too high a number.
>You can’t be serious. Small uneducated population of serfs can’t run the advanced technological civilization that we live in, let alone advance the technology further. Do you expect that minuscule hereditary elite is going to create all the technological progress all by itself?
You’ve made some invalid assumptions there.
1. ‘500 million isn’t enough for a tech civilization.’ Bullshit. Yes it most certainly is. Even with only a small proportion of them educated into tech, and the rest left ignorant.
2. Re advancement, you assume:
a. That small numbers of researchers can’t advance tech – wrong. You’re confusing the ‘massive style churn’ we have today with fundamental advance. Actually our society today is very poor at allocating resources to real scientific advance.
b. That a hereditary ruler class in the world they imagine would _want_ technological advance. Haven’t you heard the phrase “disruptive technology”? Ask yourself – disruptive to who? Why do you think the patent system has been mutated into a tool for suppressing independent development?
3. Worst mistaken assumption: That the present Elites are rational, and have any idea what actual effects they are going to achieve with their plan to cull the population. Actually, they are most likely to achieve an Earth radiologically sterilized for millions of years, by inducing an industrial collapse and the resulting failure of containment over several hundred years of all the high level radioactive stockpiles.
Btw: “miniscule (sic)” http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/minuscule-or-miniscule
I prefer miniscule and don’t give a rat’s arse about the latin root.
http://everist.org/archives/links/__Global_Cull_links.txt
Quotes
“We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public’s imagination… So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts… Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.” – Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, lead author of many IPCC reports
“Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.” – Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC
“It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.” – Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace
“We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.” – Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation
“No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.” – Christine Stewart, fmr Canadian Minister of the Environment
“The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” – emeritus professor Daniel Botkin
“We require a central organizing principle – one agreed to voluntarily. Minor shifts in policy, moderate improvement in laws and regulations, rhetoric offered in lieu of genuine change – these are all forms of appeasement, designed to satisfy the public’s desire to believe that sacrifice, struggle and a wrenching transformation of society will not be necessary.” – Al Gore, Earth in the Balance
“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?” – Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme
“A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our economic system into line with the realities of ecology and the world resource situation.” – Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies
“The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are.” – Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund
“Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control.” – Professor Maurice King
“Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning, and suburban housing – are not sustainable.” – Maurice Strong, Rio Earth Summit
“Complex technology of any sort is an assault on human dignity. It would be little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy, because of what we might do with it.” – Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute
“The prospect of cheap fusion energy is the worst thing that could happen to the planet.” – Jeremy Rifkin, Greenhouse Crisis Foundation
“Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.” – Prof Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University
“The big threat to the planet is people: there are too many, doing too well economically and burning too much oil.” – Sir James Lovelock, BBC Interview
“My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.” -Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!
“A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” – Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor
“… the resultant ideal sustainable population is hence more than 500 million but less than one billion.” – Club of Rome, Goals for Mankind
“If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.” – Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, patron of the World Wildlife Fund
“I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems.” – John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal
“The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing.” – Christopher Manes, Earth First!
“Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.” – David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club
“The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself.”
The above quote is Excerpted from “The First Global Revolution” which is a publication of “The Club of Rome” (made the best seller list in 1991)
http://books.google.com/books?id=8RNKHGbzUuAC&printsec=frontcover
— Club of Rome, premier environmental think-tank, consultants to the United Nations
“The world today has 6.8 billion people… that’s headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.”
— Bill Gates (in public speech with published video)
“In earlier times it was easier to control a million people than physically to kill a million people. Today it is infinitely easier to kill a million people then to control a million people.”
— Zbigniew Brzezinski (CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, Carter/Obama Advisor).
You are a clear thinker TerraHertz.
Thank you for your excellent and informative posts.
People like Mark prefer living in oblivion. Often they react violently against those who disturb their comfort zone.
“0.000001% of 7 billion. Global not just USA. Makes seven hundred”
No, it makes seventy (70). If you can’t even multiply simple numbers, how can we trust you with all the fancy stuff?
You have listed a bunch of quotes from IPCC, Greenpeace, Sierra Club, and similar loonies whose “science” about AGW (anthropogenic global warming) has been thoroughly discredited. You have NOT shown that those Sierra Club types are the elites you dislike, or even that they work for the elites.
“‘500 million isn’t enough for a tech civilization.’ Bullshit. Yes it most certainly is. Even with only a small proportion of them educated into tech, and the rest left ignorant.”
What is small proportion? 1% or 5 million? If you think that 5 million educated people are enough to run and maintain, let alone advance, a modern technological civilization, you have no idea how complex modern civilization is.
“That a hereditary ruler class in the world they imagine would _want_ technological advance.”
When did the ruling class, ever since the start of the industrial revolution, not want a technological advance? How do you think they get to amplify their power and influence if not through technological advances? Do you believe that Bill Gates would want to go back to 19th century level of technology?
The unstated assumption in your text is that all the world elites are in it together, and they all want the same, including the west and the Russians and the Chinese. And that the Russians and Chinese (and Indians) would just calmly watch as their countries lose 90% of their populations to suit the Sierra Club hippies’ dreams, and do nothing about it.
If you believe all that, you must be delusional.
“If you think that 5 million educated people are enough to run and maintain, let alone advance, a modern technological civilization, you have no idea how complex modern civilization is.”
Replying to myself here: the amount of people it takes to run, maintain and advance a modern technological civilization is at least 100 million. Why? Think of the countries that are self-sufficient, or at least in a position to be self-sufficient if they really put the effort.
– US could be, with 300+ million people, if they brought back all the industry they outsourced to China.
– China could be self-sufficient too, with 1.4 billion people, but it’s not there yet.
– India not even close, with 1.2 billion people.
– Russia and Japan sort of, not really, presumably they both could be with some effort and restructuring; both have around 140 million people.
– Germany with 80 million people, not really. They make a lot of stuff, but by no means everything they need, especially not advanced electronics.
– France makes a serious effort to be independent (airplanes, trains, cars, nuclear power plants, shipbuilding) but even they can’t make everything. 60 million people.
– Brazil, not even close, even though they try; 200 million people.
Do you see now how “a small proportion of 500 million people” is not nearly sufficient to run, maintain, and further develop the world we live in?
“… I hope that Donald Trump represents the other side of empires policy, the need to retreat and regroup in the face of recent defeats. Although I sincerely doubt that anything will change regardless of who is the president …”
Your sincere doubt is, unfortunately, quite well founded. Quite generally.
And concerning Donald Trump, sheer facts do not justify any “hope”.
You must read through the entire F. William Engdahl’s “A Mafia Don with a Pompadour”, http://journal-neo.org/2016/03/20/a-mafia-don-with-a-pompadour/ , well documented with links, to fully understand why.
Merely to tickle your interest in reading the rest, here are only a couple of titbits:
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Trump’s past is so intertwined with organized crime it’s incredible that the hand-wringing GOP anti-Trump establishment or Hillary Clinton have not smeared it across every newspaper in America.
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Trump’s early mentor in the ways of doing slick, shady construction business in New York was one of the sleaziest characters in New York, a lawyer named Roy Cohn.
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Cohn, who was pronounced dead of AIDS in 1986 and was described by Hoffman as, “the best-known non-show-business homosexual in the country,” was the attorney for a notorious cocaine-snorting Manhattan nightclub in the late 1970’s called Studio 54.
Hoffman wrote of the orgies at Studio 54 held by Cohn, “For special celebrities, the wildest parties were held in the basement…with high society’s homosexuals, transsexuals and transvestites…” Cohn held some of his biggest birthday bangs, attended on at least one occasion by, “the important officials of the Democratic, Republican, and Conservative parties, most of the city’s major elected officials, a number of Congressmen, the Chief Judge of the United States District Court and Roy’s usuals … Donald Trump.” [my emphasis]
Donald Trump, organized crime lawyer, Roy Cohn, and cocaine orgies in the basement of Studio 54 attended by judges and politicians of every party? In an interview Trump even described one such Studio 54 orgy he attended: “I would watch supermodels getting screwed, well-known supermodels getting screwed, on a bench in the middle of the room. There were seven of them and each one was getting screwed by a different guy. This was in the middle of the room.” He omitted to say whether he was among that seven.
In the 1970’s when Trump was in his 20’s he hired Roy Cohn as his attorney and “fixer” as he took over his father’s New York real estate and construction business. Trump and Cohn were regular companions at Studio 54 where Cohn was the lawyer. Trump reportedly even kept a photo of Cohn in his office.
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Sorry to burst your bubble Sergey, but there is no guilt by association, not in the US and not in any normal country either. Just as any other businessman would, Trump hired the best attorney he could find to get the job done. That the said attorney was also representing Studio 54 and perhaps the mob and that he was a homosexual is and was legally irrelevant. Not morally irrelevant, but legally irrelevant. And if you expect moral in politics, you are looking at the wrong place.
The rest of F. William Engdahl’s article is also all guilt by association. The essence of his article is his anger at the moral confusion of the United States, but he doesn’t describe the root cause of it, only the manifestations. And describing root causes of it would take me too much time and space, so I won’t do it here.
Bottom line, regarding Trump, there is nothing of significance in the article you linked.
Maybe so, however, it is a fact that Trump was deeply involved in casinos. which are morally questionable in the first place, and generally tied to organized crime.
Whether or not Engdahl’s article provides a smoking gun, there is a significant amount of circumstantial evidence.
I find it really unbelievable that a guy like Trump, with zero record of public service, whose whole life has been one big ego trip, would suddenly become Mr Public Spirited Citizen with no selfish intent, but to take over the reigns of power for the benefit of his country.
To think that an oligarch of his calibre would change is naive to say the least.
Indeed, but he is supported by some people who does not seem naive at all. And, having been some weeks that we do not talk about The Donald, suddenly, the selected comment bring him again to the fore…..
Anyway, despite the efforts, the thing as that does not wash, Bernie Sanders has won in Wisconsin also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCMdvj_TiUU
Jonathan, where are you?
Take a wine to my health, I will do the same here!
Cheers!
Hi Elsi,
Sorry, wasn’t following this post. Recent rally for Bernie in Manhattan drew 27000 people. Cheers to you too!
Great! I think that he is the only sane option, or that, or not voting al all.
You do not need to choose an esperpento like The Donald, to avoid warmonger Hillary.
See you in another thread, Jonathan.
Good Sabbath!
Cheers!
@ Eric
My thoughts also. Of course that one expects morals in politics. “No laws are broken” (which in itself would be a stretch) is what is irrelevant. (Laws which, by the way, are written by these same politicians, which is why they are called legislators. Hitler broke no laws, he was the law of the land…) Would one still vote for Al Capone, whose his sleazy lawyers taught him how not to directly collide with the law? Apparently many would, the voting boots in the U.S. are never empty.
Regarding Trump:
I don’t care if he is sleaze bag, or if he works with casinos, or that his wife is much younger than him, or he doesn’t have natural hair colour, or if he’s a transsexual. Who the f… cares?
He said he would dismantle NATO and stop the free trade agreements. As long as he executes that, then it’s good enough for me. There is always the risk he won’t deliver, but heck, that’s a risk I’m willing to take when faced with the prospect of Clinton in the White House.
“He said he would dismantle NATO and stop the free trade agreements. As long as he executes that, then it’s good enough for me.”
Would be for me too.
Except that that is never going to happen. A fantasy land.
Hello Petar,
Of course, you’re right. It’ll never happen. I just pray I won’t have to live through WWIII…
My bet is that Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the US. She is a war criminal and a much more morally reprehensible character than Trump or anyone else. But that’s ok with some of the commentators here because because you know what? She doesn’t “talk like nazi” and her spouse isn’t younger than her, and she’s not a transsexual…eh.. well maybe not…
The thing that many people fail to grasp with political elections is: you don’t vote for the BEST candidate, you vote for the LEAST BAD candidate. By that measure, Trump should get most of the votes, no question.
“you vote for the LEAST BAD candidate”
:)
It was exactly thanks to such “logic” that the American sheeple acquired Obama.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00447/news-graphics-2007-_447508a.jpg
Casinos?! Nearly everyone in the Republican party kneels at the feet of Sheldon Adelson the (very pro-Israel) casino magnate. And nearly everyone in the Democratic party kneels at the feet of the stock marketeers, which comes to the same thing. Connections to casinos? Big whoop.
” suddenly become Mr Public Spirited Citizen with no selfish intent, but to take over the reigns of power for the benefit of his country. ”
Eric:
I think you might find this interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI&nohtml5=False
@ Mieszko I
Right you are. That 1988 video demonstrates that he is an exceptionally smooth talker, just like all the crooked rest. Explains how he was able to acquire all his ill-gotten wealth. Could you imagine anyone becoming a top billionaire in America and not being completely dishonest? Unfortunately, there is never shortage of the naïve in America, cheering, flag waving, “voting”…
I like Engdahl, and I don’t like Trump, or should I say, I don’t expect anything to become better if he is president.
That said, I don’t think it is always the best to judge somebody because of who he has associated with earlier, especially if he exposes the others.
It is like saying that Putin is bad because he was in KGB, and everybody knows that KGB has done some shady things.
I thought by now we have learned not to listen to every accusation about “guilt by association”.
What about all the ex-CIA guys, that changed side and are now are authorities in anti-imperial media? (Or military analysts that decades ago have been on NATO’s payroll…) Are they also forever bad, because of their history?
I know that in many cases a person’s past defines who and what he is now. But people can have a change of mind/heart. (Or they could have worked for decades knowingly undercover to infiltrate an enemy organisation).
Now, in the case of Trump, I really don’t know . But the am against judging people completely by what they did in the past.
But the am against judging people completely by what they did in the past.
On what else would you judge them then?
You cannot judge them on their future, something that hasn’t come to pass yet.
You cannot judge them on their present instant either, for by the time you start judging, that instant already lies in the past.
And I sincerely hope that you won’t judge one on what he promises.
so, are we to surmise – Empire = infallible? LMFAO – but ok to each their own!
only one field, is infallible – and yet it will grant fall.ible experiences within :)
wake up…
Comment from Serbia is so true that even Orwell 1984 rat teeth looks brighter than our future :)
Keep spreading Pravda tovarishi..regards from Ljubljana!
The US is desperately trying to stillbirth the rise of the East and to that end is trying to recreate the post-WW2 desolated world when the Empire of Exceptionalism established its dominate position.
“The rich will move to USA, bringing their wealth and thus allow the empire to continue to prosper, for a while longer.”
From Serbia, you are exactly correct. The US financial systems and UK / US trusts are not better but they will attract this money because they have destroyed the competition. The main competitor of the Anglo-American banking sector used to be Switzerland. The US (together with the lawsuits from the World Jewish Congress) destroyed the Swiss banking system.
Now the only to challengers to the Anglo-Amercian baking system are Hong Kong and Singapore.
Singapore is already under fire: http://www.straitstimes.com/business/banking/ubs-ordered-to-court-in-tax-case-over-singapore-bank-secrecy
HK looks owned to me!
Just ask yourself “at the very top, are they or not a member of/controlled by BIS or IMF, & do they have a rottenchild central bank of vipers?”
Representative Office for Asia and the Pacific
Location: 78th floor, Two International Finance Centre
8 Finance Street, Central
Hong Kong
Special Administrative Region of the People’s Republic of China
http://www.bis.org/about/contact.htm
Member central banks of BIS:
http://www.bis.org/about/member_cb.htm
Note Taiwan is not a member, but mainland China is. So, is the dischord setup sown by the neocons between the ‘westified’ Taiwan as victim of aggression & the evil commie mainlanders just a puppet show getting everyone to look at the problem 180 degrees wrong?
Interesting position. I wouldn’t go that far though. First of all, the world is way too unstable to make workable plans “Decades, even centuries ahead” no matter how clever an elite group may be. Second, I’ve seen no evidence they’re that clever.
But that doesn’t mean I don’t buy any of it. I do think some of the chaos is deliberate, and that the wreckage in the Middle East is, if not the absolute best-case scenario, a decent second-best from the imperial perspective. Fragile, half-broken countries may not be that productive, but they don’t have much to say when you come and rape their resources. Their institutions are weak and corrupt. They don’t create effective regional organizations that leave hegemons out. They don’t, basically, defend themselves, either militarily or politically or economically, against the imperial agenda. So sure, I think the Americans would have been happy to have Iraq simply be a satrap run by a pliable, non-democratic government that would successfully keep the lid on while letting them take all the oil and privatize everything in sight, but the smarter ones knew that wasn’t all that likely, and chaos was a very acceptable fallback. And in Libya there was never any sign of a plan for any result other than pretty much what they got; I consider the argument that the whole point was to destabilize Africa and make it more vulnerable to US (and French) domination very likely true.
Where I think this argument goes too far is on the EU. I don’t think messing up the EU was the point. At the rate things are going, the EU could break up in a few years from a combination of its own vicious economic policies and the political ruptures stemming from mass immigration from the areas that have been imperially chaosed. Why on earth would the American empire want that? Those are its best stooges, its main weapon against Russia, its willing-coalition cover for imperial aggression, the people who create the bandwagon for its sanctions, making them effective. Chaos in the EU could put all that at risk. No, I think the whole “immigration from the areas the Americans broke” thing is something the Americans considered a negative but an acceptable one, if they thought about it at all. And if they did think about it, they underestimated both the magnitude of the migration itself, the size of the political consequences, and the degree to which EU economic policies would have already screwed the pooch by the time the immigration problem hit high gear. If the European economy were firing on all cylinders, the whole immigration issue would be much less explosive than it is, but the European financier/bureaucrats (e.g. Mario Draghi, central banker and Goldman Sachs apparatchik) have been engaging in concerted economic warfare against the non-wealthy citizens of the EU itself and they refuse to stop. The mass immigration may help them channel that into right wing fascist or sort-of-fascist directions which don’t pose a systemic threat to finance, but it will also increase the general unrest so much–lots more people just as there are lots fewer jobs–that such channeling likely won’t do them as much good as they hope. And from the American perspective, right wing nationalist governments may prove unreliable at best as political allies even if they don’t pose a financial challenge.
Overall, there is a significant chance here of outcomes that will make Europe far less useful and cohesive as an American ally or even break up NATO. So I really think any American interest in sowing chaos does not extend to Europe, where it is instead a negative side effect deemed “worth it”–and perhaps mistakenly so.
PLG,
You are a smart fellow but incredibly naive.
Please exit the library of approved literature and do some reaearch outside of your comfort zone.
Pffft. Maybe if I were confronted by counterarguments with a bit more substance than that, I would look into their sources. As things stand–“approved literature”? I’ve little doubt that my political position represents a much more fundamental challenge to the system than yours, if that’s supposed to be a pissing match.
The post is sort of foolish, the reason being better explained by the old German legend about the sorcerer’s apprentice; hopefully you’ll see why sowing chaos is not a good idea. Chaos has a soul of its own. Chaos will go after its finality, no matter what the puppet master does.
(Reader’s notes: 1) think of the water as chaos, the magic broom as the terrorists and other liver-eating unholy beings of the present; 2) the tub is overflowing now — think of the EU; 3) in the end, the Devil may not be as forgiving as the legendary sorcerer; 4) after all, in the legend it was only water, not chaos…).
The legend of the sorcerer’s apprentice
A young boy from the village was apprenticed to a sorcerer. The young boy wanted to learn how to create magic, but all that he was allowed to do were chores: carrying water, picking up, and cleaning around the sorcerer’s castle. He felt like a servant.
One day, as the sorcerer was getting ready to leave the castle, orders were given for the boy to carry water from the well and use it to scrub the floor in the Great Hall. As soon as the sorcerer left, the boy put on the sorcerer’s special hat and sat down to look through the big book that contained the sorcerer’s magic spells. He wanted to be like the sorcerer and do magic more than anything else. As he looked through the big book of spells, he found a spell that would bring inanimate objects to life. He got an idea! Instead of sweeping and mopping the castle floor, he would use magic and make the broom do it. Ha! He could sit back and relax and the broom could be HIS servant!
The boy practiced the magic words. Then he said them over the broom. At first nothing happened. Then, the broom suddenly moved. The broom sprouted arms. The boy quickly showed the broom how to pick up a bucket. The broom followed the young apprentice to the
well where the boy demonstrated how to fill the bucket with water. The broom was to fill the large tub in the Great Hall with water so that it could be used to wash the floor.
The broom carried the bucket to the well, filled it with water, and carried it back to the tub in the castle. The tub was filled with water. The broom continued to carry more water from the well. Soon the tub was overflowing. The boy ordered the broom to stop but the broom continued on. Then remembering that he had used a magic spell on the broom, the boy frantically tried to find the special words that would make it stop. But the broom kept on going. Grabbing an ax, the boy chopped the broom into small pieces. Very pleased with himself for finding a solution to this
problem, the boy sat back in the sorcerer’s chair and soon fell asleep.
The small pieces of the broom began to move. As the brooms grew, arms sprouted and these new brooms began to carry buckets to the well to be filled. Soon there was an entire army of brooms with buckets in hand, marching to the well, filling buckets with water, marching back to the castle, and filling the now overflowing tub with even more water. The water cascaded from the tub into the room. Waves of water washed up the walls of the Great Hall and the apprentice was cast afloat in his chair. As he tumbled into the water, the boy woke up and could not believe his eyes! More brooms than he could ever imagine were hard at work carrying water from the well and splashing it into the room that was now filled with water. The apprentice was powerless to stop them.
Just then, the sorcerer returned. He lifted his arms and in a loud voice spoke the necessary words to return all to its original order. He was angry at the boy. The apprentice knelt and begged for forgiveness, but the sorcerer pointed to the door indicating that the boy could not be trusted, that he must leave, and that he would not be given the opportunity to learn magic. Sadly, the boy turned to go. As the boy left, the sorcerer changed his mind and gave his young apprentice a spank instead.
Whats a trillion dollars spent, more or less? How hard is it for them to just add a few more digits into electronic accounts, or print more dollars? Who’s going to stop them?
All I know is history rhymes, & this time, whenever it occurs, it’s going to be quite a sight to behold.
This chart is best I can find on short notice, but good enough for this discussion.
It is the UST 10-Year yield, not the biggie 30-year but they track very well.
Note the sharp little notch drop to just over 4% you see there about 1968, then a huge angular rise as interest rates went skyward, with the mirror item, the quoted ‘value’ of a $100 face value bond, cratering.
Short respite, then the giant rise & bond collapse all the way to October 1981.
What big event occured then to send bond inverstors running like scalded rats?
It was the Tet (New Year) 1968 Offensive, Vietnam, launched at the end of January/1968.
Contrary to all the glorious revisionist history you read about it, it must have been one helluva nasty & embarrassing battlefield defeat for uncle sam.
This was just under 3 years after the first huge troop wave buildup reached there, in early 1965.
Tet made it obvious to those in the know that there was going to be endless rivers of bond debt issuance watering down the ever rising bond supply even more, to pursue the war, if it could even be won at all, which like every other one was assuredly going to last mere months!
Considering the much smaller total debt issued vs GDP then compared to now, there will be some kind of market A-HA moment coming, but this time it will be on a far shorter fuse.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-bond-yield
this one has a year ruler on x-axis; better, you can see January 1968 clearly that low:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Scat_VEIW9I/URrH6UrACXI/AAAAAAAABqs/I6shP2ednNo/s400/U.S.+Treasury+Bond+Interest+Rate+History.jpg
Maybe Drumpf really is just a controlled opposition patsy they’re running, but they are then at least making great efforts to make him look like the good guy done wrong to, because here’s a snapshot of that recent Wisconsin primary, with the ridiculously skewed electronic voting results.
‘sides, for 2016 everybody knows “$hitlary is da shizzle!”.
(pic not available after today, since page changes):
http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/wisconsplash.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs6w5ihNbtY
4 minutes
Still Report #774 – Diebold Voting Machine Hack on Fox News
Here is an older one from The Fox News morning show, “Fox & Friends” featuring our old Washington DC weatherman, Steve Doocy.
old clip, but tons of links in the Show More box under the video.
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2015/11/experiencing-the-nemesis-of-hubric-exceptionalismwho-are-we-now-origin.html
FromSerbia,
This author who calls himself “Origin” might agree with you.
That was an excellent read. And heartening.
Also the comments.
Seems like a percentage of Americans are a good deal more clued-up than the appalling mainstream media would have us believe.
Great article giving a very believable perspective on the machinations of Washington.
Their partners in crime are the mainstream media who feed us all this b….s… .With a media that had integrity the population of the west would vote for politicians that had integrity.
Thanks to the Saker for being a good example of what is possible.
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The eye of the beholder.
The greatest trick of the devil is to make you believe he is omnipotent.
Anyone experienced in art, construction or any type of creative endeavor knows that it is far more easy to destroy something than it is to create something out of nothing.
Causing chaos is far more easy than upholding civilization.
Creativity is a positive, an absolute,
without it neither chaos nor destruction exists.
The ones creating and maintaining civilization are legion, their achievements are easily overlooked, ignored or taken for granted.
To a greater or lesser extent, we all contribute to either side of the polarity.
The PR department of Orwellian future is heavily engaged in an attempt to convince the masses that mankind is utterly impotent against an allegedly overwhelmingly powerful and well organized nefarious elite minority.
A segment of so-called conspiracy pundits aren’t really informing their audience about the minutiae of the imminence of some hypothetical globalists’ ‘New World Order’, they rather invent and expand the narrative as they seek to promote a flawed yet compelling dis-empowering urban myth.
You shall despair, resistance is futile.
Anyone promoting the myth of omnipotence of ‘our handlers’ is a tool.
We, the disowned heirs of the Earth, happen to be complicit in the crimes of ‘our handlers’ by consent.
If something does not empower you, it either enslaves you or it serves to maintain the status quo of inertia.
The brave aspire to be free.
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Leo Strauss – trotzkist, adept of political zionizm and a founder of American neo-con school.
Some quotes:
“We must maintain controlled chaos.”
“American principles are universal and therefore American interventions around the world are justified – to bring the blessing of the West to the benighted rest.”
“Perpetual deception of the citizens by those in power is critical, because they need to be led, and they need strong rulers to tell them what is good for them”.
“Political Zionizm is a moral force in an era of complete dissolution”.
Notable students of Strauss: Hadley Arkes, Allan Bloom, Abram Shulsky (Director of Office of Special Plans), Paul Woolfovitz (this one all know) etc.
Ref: City and Man -by Leo Strauss
Leo Strauss and American Right – by Shadia Drury
My beliefs an insights completely, with the difference that what the freest media (alternative) can
produce. the things no one sees on the Western media, like the different ways children are either supported or destroyed, how the policies of commercialising food products make them inedible and mutating. Destroyed medical care across Europe and as soon as, across Asia and South America.
The legalisation of hate speech and hate action.
The roots of legalising hate speech of course for the 20th and the 21st centuries is Adolf Hitler and the fact that once the German’s elected him they followed his orders until he killed himself. Not unlike Hitler fascists everywhere. Hate actions have been updated since the US noted Hitler’s accomplishments in this field. Presently the US leads in crimes-against-humanity attrocities, and it plans to keep that lead no matter what. As was the Third Reich, the US are vastly proud of their carefully planned decent into military depravity. Roots of? G.W.Bush 11…and Henry Ford, or the culture of US Oligarches.
Presently the US leads in crimes-against-humanity atrocities, and it plans to keep that lead no matter what. As was the Third Reich, the US are vastly proud of their carefully planned decent into military depravity.
interesting parallel this docu put up 2014.
mentions the 40 countries Japan invaded/pillaged/occupied/ in their Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere.
Dissent ruthlessly suppressed by the military thought police who arrested anyone, even servicemen’s wives who put something ‘unpatriotic’ in a letter to their military husband stationed 5000 miles away.
Japan only went too far in the US eyes (owned by Britain since January/1783 in that hypothecation sellout mentioned in the 2008 Esoteric Agenda docu—big big bankster celebration number date coming for that in autumn 2017, BTW) when Japan invaded the queen’s indonesia oil properties.
Till then, Japan’s buildup was totally aided & abetted in all ways by the great powers (but not Russia).
Even mentions the Krupp big guns used to suppress/take Port Arthur.
Japan conglomerates active in war supplies mentioned like Mitsui & Mitsubishi were never decommissioned in any way after the war–just like the big German ones, after the war it was as if nothing happened!
quite good balanced report, surprising for Disney (owns Discovery)
86 minutes
The Rise and Fall of the Japanese Empire 日本
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TNt4CA9YMw&nohtml5=False
The problem with complex systems is that it is impossible to plan and predict everything. There is no doubt that AZ empire needs chaos and wars but at some moment situation can go out of control. As I commented on Dmitry Orlov’s blog Austro-Hungarian monarchy wanted war with Serbia in 1914 and prepared for that war decades in advance. But once war starts all the plans are destroyed in a nick of time. Austo-Hungarians were sure that they must win war with Serbia: they reduced everything to maths – they have 6 million soldiers and Serbia only 400 thousands, so they must win! But instead of winning they failed catastrophically. That’s how history works.
Each war the US carefully engages in feeds it’s insatiable need to take over both the known and unknown worlds. You see, it is in hurry as US corporations are being deliberately allowed to destruct the globe as we know it and the method by which it used to sustain us. Apocalyptic, you bet your socks! the belief of this author that the US has not learned form it’s former or present wars is merely believing US propaganda.
Causing reams of meaningless conjecture.
The author should add the induced chaos in Latin America ( starting with Mexico )as an endless supply of future soldiers to be sent as cannon fodder in other Amerikkan empire “theaters” …. ( search The U.S. armed forces will accept qualified immigrants with temporary visas as recruits and will offer them the chance to become citizens) …. since american citizens are too “precious” , politically speaking .