Dear new-to-this blog friends,
Why do I speak of “AngloZionists”? I got that question many times in the past, so I will make a separate post about it to (hopefully) explain this once and for all.
1) Anglo:
The USA in an Empire. With roughly 1000 overseas bases (depends on how you count), a undeniably messianic ideology, a bigger defense offense budget then the rest of the planet combined, 16+ spy agencies, the dollar as work currency there is no doubt that the US is a planetary Empire. Where did the US Empire come from? Again, that’s a no brainer – from the British Empire. Furthermore, the US Empire is really based on a select group of nations: the Echelon countries, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK and, of course, the US. What do these countries have in common? They are the leftovers of the British Empire and they are all English speaking. Notice that France, Germany or Japan are not part of this elite even though they are arguably as important or more to the USA then, say, New Zealand and far more powerful. So the “Anglo” part is undeniable. And yet,
even though “Anglo” is an ethnic/linguistic/cultural category while “Zionist” is a political/ideological one, very rarely do I get an objection about speaking of “Anglos” or the “Anglosphere”.
2) Zionist
Let’s take the (hyper politically correct) Wikipedia definition of what the word “Zionism” means: it is “a nationalist movement of Jews and Jewish culture that supports the creation of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the Land of Israel“. Apparently, no link to the US, the Ukraine or Timbuktu, right? But think again. Why would Jews – whether defined as a religion or an ethnicity – need a homeland anyway? Why can’t they just live wherever they are born, just like Buddhist (a religion) or the African Bushmen (ethnicity) who live in many different countries? The canonical answer is that Jews have been persecuted everywhere and that therefore they need their own homeland to serve as a safe haven in case of persecutions. Without going into the issue of why Jews were persecuted everywhere and, apparently, in all times, this rationale clearly implies if not the inevitability of more persecutions or, at the very least, a high risk thereof. Let’s accept that for demonstration sake and see what this, in turn, implies. First, that implies that Jews are inherently threatened by non-Jews who are all at least potential anti-Semites. The threat is so severe that a separate Gentile-free homeland must be created as the only, best and last way to protect Jews worldwide. This, in turn, implies that the continued existence of this homeland should become an vital and irreplaceable priority of all Jews worldwide lest a persecution suddenly breaks out and they have nowhere to go. Furthermore, until all Jews finally “move up” to Israel, they better be very, very careful as all the goyim around them could literally come down with a sudden case of genocidal anti-Semitism at any moment. Hence all the anti-anti-Semitic organizations a la ADL or UEJF, the Betar clubs, the network of sayanim, etc. In other words, far from being a local “dealing with Israel only” phenomenon, Zionism is a worldwide movement whose aim is to protect Jews from the apparently incurable anti-Semitism of the rest of the planet. As Israel Shahak correctly identified it, Zionism postulates that Jews should “think locally and act globally” and when given a choice of policies always ask THE crucial question: “But is it good for Jews?“. So far from being only focused on Israel, Zionism is really a global, planetary, ideology which unequivocally split up all of mankind into two groups (Jews and Gentiles), which assumes that the latter are all potential genocidal maniacs (which is racist) and believes that saving Jewish lives is qualitatively different and more important than saving Gentile lives (which is racist again). Anyone doubting the ferocity of this determination should either ask a Palestinian or study the holiday of Purim, or both. Even better, read Gilad Atzmon and look up his definition of what is brilliantly called “pre-traumatic stress disorder”
3) Anglo-Zionist
The British Empire and the early USA used to be pretty much wall to wall Anglo. Sure, Jews had a strong influence (in banking for example), but Zionism was a non-issue not only amongst non-Jews, but also amongst US Jews. Besides, religious Jews were often very hostile to the notion of a secular Israel while secular Jews did not really care about this quasi Biblical notion. WWII definitely gave a massive boost to the Zionist movement while, as Norman Finkelstein explained it, the topic of the “Holocaust” became central to Jewish discourse and identity only many years later. I won’t go into the history of the rise to power of Jews in the USA, but from roughly Ford to GW Bush’s Neocons it has been steady. And even though Obama initially pushed them out, they came right back in through the backdoor. Right now, the only question is whether US Jews have more power than US Anglos or the other way around. Before going any further, let me also immediately say that I am not talking about Jews or Anglos as a group, but I am referring to the top 1% within each of these groups. Furthermore, I don’t believe that the top 1% of Jews cares any more about Israel or the 99% of Jews than the top 1% of Anglos care about the USA or the Anglo people. So, here my thesis:
The US Empire is run by a 1% (or less) elite which can be called the “deep state” which is composed of two main groups: Anglos and Jews. These two groups are in many ways hostile to each other (just like the SS and SA or Trotskysts and Stalinists), but they share 1) a racist outlook on the rest of mankind 2) a messianic ideology 3) a phenomenal propensity for violence 4) an obsession with money and greed and its power to corrupt. So they work together almost all the time.
Now this might seem basic, but so many people miss it, that I will have to explicitly state it: to say that most US elites are Anglos or Jews does not mean that most Anglos or Jews are part of the US elites. That is a straw-man argument which deliberately ignores the non commutative property of my thesis to turn it into a racist statement which accuses most/all Anglos or Jews of some evil doing. So to be very clear:
When I speak of AngloZionist Empire I am referring to the predominant ideology of the 1%ers elites which for this Empire’s “deep state”.
By the way, there are non-Jewish Zionists (Biden, in his own words) and there are (plenty of) anti-Zionist Jews. Likewise, there are non-Anglo imperialists and there are (plenty of) anti-imperialists Anglos. To speak of “Nazi Germany” or “Soviet Russia” does in now way imply that all Germans were Nazis or all Russian s Communists. All this means it that the predominant ideology of these nations at that specific moment in time was National-Socialism and Marxism, that’s all.
My personal opinion now
First, I don’t believe that Jews are a race or an ethnicity. I always doubted that, but reading Shlomo Sand really convinced me. Jews are not defined by religion either (most/many are secular). Truly, Jews are a tribe. A group one can chose to join (Elizabeth Taylor) or leave (Gilad Atzmon). In other words, I see “Jewishness” as a culture, or ideology, or education or any other number of things, but not something rooted in biology. I fully agree with Atzmon when he says that Jews are racist, but not a race. Second, I don’t even believe that the concept of “race” has been properly defined and, hence, that it has any objective meaning. I therefore don’t differentiate between human beings on the basis of an undefined criterion. Third, since being Jew (or not) is a choice, one to belong, adhere and endorse a tribe (secular Jews) or a religion (Judaics). Any choice implies a judgment call and it therefore a legitimate target for scrutiny and criticism. Fourth, I believe that Zionism, even when secular, instrumentalizes the values, ideas, myths and ethos of rabbinical Judaism (aka “Talmudism” or “Phariseism”) and both are racist in their core value and assumptions. Fifth, both Zionism and Nazism are twin brothers born from the same ugly womb: 19th century European nationalism (Brecht was right, “’The belly is still fertile from which the foul beast sprang”). Nazis and Zionists can hate each other to their hearts’ content, but they are still twins. Sixth, I reject any and all form of racism as a denial of our common humanity, a denial of the freedom of choice of each human being and – being an Orthodox Christian – as a grievous heresy. To me people who chose to identify themselves with, and as, Jews are not inherently different from any other human and they deserve no more and no less rights and protections than any other human being.
I will note here that while the vast majority of my readers of Anglos, they almost never complain about the “Anglo” part of my “AngloZionist” descriptor. The vast majority of objections focus on the “Zionist” part. You might want to think long and hard about why this is so and what it tells us about the kind of power Zionists have over the prevailing ideology. Could it be linked to the reason why the (openly racist and truly genocidal) Israeli Prime Minister gets more standing ovations in Congress (29) than the US President (25)?
Some objections:
Q: it makes you sound like a Nazi/redneck/racist/idiot/etc.
A: I don’t care. I don’t write this blog for brainwashed zombies.
Q: you turn people off.
A: if by speaking the truth and using correct descriptors I turn them off, then this blog is not for them.
Q: you can offend Jews.
A: only those who believe that their ideas cannot be challenged or criticized.
Q: but you will lose readers!!
A: this is not a popularity contest.
Q: your intentions might be good, but they are easily misinterpreted.
A: this is why I define my words very carefully and strictly.
Q: but why are you so stubborn about this?
A: because I am sick and tired of those in power hiding in the dark: let’s expose them and freely challenge them. How can you challenge something which is hidden?
Q: but I am a hasbarachnik and I need to get you to stop using that expression!!
A: give it up and find an easier target for your efforts. You will still get paid.
A: I have a much better term.
Q: Good! Use it on your blog then :-P
That’s it for now.
Actually no, there is one more thing, while I am at it:
Open message to those objecting to my use of the article ‘the’ in front of the word “Ukraine”: before lecturing others, learn Russian and learn a little something about the history of the Ukraine :-P
In conclusion, a plea: can we pretty please stop this nonsense now? There are far more important things to analyze and worry about than my use of this or that expression, word or description. If you don’t like it – great. Just consider that I am wrong (-: I often am, so I won’t take offense :-). Can we please stop pretending like Jews and Jewish related issues are The Most Important Thing In The Universe (TMITITU) and deal with the really important issues?
Thanks,
The Saker
PS: IMPORTANT ADDENDUM: you are more than welcome to comment discuss this topic all you want, but I have wasted enough of my time on this kind of nonsense. Not being a Jew myself, I don’t have to share in any ethnocentric notion of exceptionalism and self-aggrandizement and this is why I said that the topic of Jews and Jewish issues is not TMITITU, at least not for me. So I will not respond to comments to this post, sorry. Careful though – I still loathe racism in all its forms, including anti-Jewish racism (even if Jews are not a race!), so don’t bother posting long anti-Jewish rants as I will toss them all to /dev/null. Fact based, logical and otherwise substantive comments are, of course, not only welcome, but requested. Racist shit, pardon my French, is not.
Yonatan @ 17:19
In reply, your question to my comment on France’s suspension of delivery Mistral ships …
Mr. Putin’s response will demonstrate to the entire EU members, a triple whammy. (to quote Mr. Saker’s well cited piece — “You want to be America’s Bitch, Pay the Price”) .
just up @ MoA b had this beauty:
“[.]
To the delight of U.S. hardliners France has “postponed” the delivery of the two helicopter carrier of the Mistral type to Russia. The Russians will be happy about that. Such carriers are useful in small conflicts against minor enemies but Russia has now again to prepare for larger ones. The deal (once given to Sarkozy for his help in the 2008 Georgia conflict) included several ships some of them to be build in Russia.
As part of the deal a shipyard in Russia has been modernized for the project and that important work has been finished. Russia can now (again) build such ships on its own.
If the two ships from France get not finally delivered Russia will demand back some €600 million already paid and a €1.2 billion contractual penalty.
Without the Russia deal France may also have to close its shipyard in Saint-Nazaire. To hold back the ships is a terrible deal for France but president Hollande’s poll rating is already so bad that the further drop in the polls for kissing Obama’s ass will likely be irrelevant.[.]
(emphasis added)
= = = = =
I have cleaned this up. . Francois knows how to screw in a light bulb.
A man of immense patience, Mr. Putin has all aces. Get your popcorn at the ready.
AM
“Anyone doubting the ferocity of this determination should either ask a Palestinian or study the holiday of Purim, or both.”
I would prefer to ask the fighters of Hezbollah.
Anonymous 17:29,
How? It looks to me like the intense bribe-ability (there must be a better word there) of our pols is a strong point of the current system, not a weak one. Do you have any idea how high their going rate is? Whether it’s from AIPAC or the Koch Brothers, it’s still going to be a lot more money than we can scrape up — and the REAL payoffs kick in later, after they’re out of office.
No way ordinary people can compete with mega-bazillionares on their home turf. Or even away games, for that matter. It’d be like a cricket going mano a mano with, what, an elephant maybe?
Anonymous 17:29,
That is a very interesting synopsis indeed. And so the Old Hands (the only real brains in the entire deep state/AZE/sos complex) are sputtering on the sidelines while the rest of the Homeland Security/MIC, including of course all their oh-so-subtle assets here on this site, are in for the win. Lovely.
Damn them.
To Anonymous: Sigh. I suppose I see “self”. Isn’t that what we always see when we look into a mirror. Some construct of “self” and of those ancestors who came before. I am part of a chain of human DNA expressed through relationships and survives through compassion and sacrifice and endurance. Others who are not “Anglo” see similar qualities in themselves. At least I hope so.
What I don’t see is a desire to rule the world. To lie or cheat or steal. Nor harm innocent life. I also don’t see that I’m “chosen” to enslave others as do Zionists. That’s not to say I am without spot. Far, far from it. I have demons to conquer like anyone else. My demons do not include taking advantage of others for my own perverse recreation or outright greed. It’s not in my DNA. And my DNA happens to be “Anglo-Saxon” in origin. And I’ve grown fond of it.
To Nora: Yes. Using “sos” is better. It’s not as if they need any help making themselves into something more “important” than they are. Sad really. How puny and insignificant their brand of evil has become. I am quite bored by them. They are past their shelf-date and beginning to smell-up the joint. Cheers to you, A
I would exand it to anglo/zionist/vatican.
http://www.in5d.com/40-outrageous-facts-most-people-dont-know.html
In Australia, the ‘Israel Lobby’ controls politics and the MSM, just as in Canada, the UK and the USA. Of course, they ferociously deny that they even exist, and any who dare point to the facts is certain to be smeared as an ‘antisemite’ and ostracised from public life-this is not an exaggeration. For instance a very well-known journalist, Mike Carlton, criticised Israel’s latest massacre in Gaza, quoting Israeli journalists, and was stupid enough to answer the tsunami of abusive filth that the pro-Israel forces brought down on his head, on Twitter etc, by returning abuse for abuse.
Not vile abuse, as the pro-Israelis are masters of, but enough for the abusers to go whining to News Ltd, Murdoch’s evil organisation and fanatically pro-Israel (as are all hard Right groups)which then ran a vicious character assassination campaign (led by Jewish ‘journalists’ in the News camp and their Sabbat Goy Toys)and Carlton was gone. The pressure came not from the editorial section of Carlton’s paper, but from management.
The Gazan massacre has now been forgotten in our sewer MSM. Instead we have daily inventions of a ‘rise’ in ‘antisemitism’, plainly a greater outrage than the murder of 2000 people including 500 children. That, it is universally asserted, is all Hamas’ fault. Israel tries so valiantly to ‘protect’ civilians, blah, blah, blah. The Israeli ‘narcissistic-exploitative’ character formation in full, hideous flight, and driven into our heads in one lying article, editorial or letter after another.
The vicious Israeli ideology of raw race hatred has, through Jewish political and MSM domination, been projected onto our society. Those who stood up for the Gazans are viciously defamed as ‘antisemites’, that all-purpose abuse and intimidation, based on the insane supremacist ideology that Jews, everywhere and always, are incapable of doing wrong, and any criticism of any Jew’s behaviour anywhere, is always illegitimate and driven by prejudice. You cannot have any real human interaction or reach any compromise with creatures who think like this, as the poor, eternally brutalised, Palestinians well know.
Saker said, ” As Israel Shahak correctly identified it, Zionism postulates that Jews should “think locally and act globally” and when given a choice of policies always ask THE crucial question: “But is it good for Jews?”. So far from being only focused on Israel, Zionism is really a global, planetary, ideology which unequivocally split up all of mankind into two groups (Jews and Gentiles), which assumes that the latter are all potential genocidal maniacs (which is racist) and believes that saving Jewish lives is qualitatively different and more important than saving Gentile lives (which is racist again). Anyone doubting the ferocity of this determination should either ask a Palestinian or study the holiday of Purim, or both. Even better, read Gilad Atzmon and look up his definition of what is brilliantly called “pre-traumatic stress disorder””
Jews have a strong tribal identity founded on the myth that Jews are God’s Chosen People. We all have many identifications which is normal and human, but the danger for a nation is to be blind to the potential for people in positions of power in government having an identification above the responsibility of the one to which they are elected, hired, or appointed.
When a US Senator is responsible for the well-being of the nation, but his first question is ‘is it good for the Jews’, we have a problem of dual loyalties which borders on treason.
It is my opinion a nation should not allow dual nationals to hold positions of authority over its citizens, lest they be betrayed by a ‘fifth column’ who stand as a people apart, pretending to represent our interests, but in fact represent first the interests of the Jews.
Thank you for the excellent, compassionate, and accurate definition of the term Anglo-Zionist, which while not prefect, conveys meaning on many levels. It is well if all including Jews allow other human beings and their affiliations equal consideration, without looking down on them as lesser human beings in God’s eyes.
It is a historical tragedy that Christianity has incorporated the exclusive special racist attitude of Judaism into its credo, especially in the Protestant sense of being God’s Chosen People and all others being heathens or slaves.
Best Wishes….
Geweldig gezegd….Ik had het niet beter kunnen doen.
Ga vol goede moed verder!!!
Een zeer waarderende Nederlandse
Geraldine
Japan is not part of the elite?
Approximately 40 percent of Japan is Shinto Buddhist. They build the temple on the blue print of King Solomon’s temple, they have their own sacrifice pole, they have parades featuring the ark of the covenant and the priest wears the typical jewish breast plate.
Monuments thousands of years old feature the six pointed star and the seal of Solomon.
Khazars came to Japan on the silk road, they were chased by Alexander the great and repelled by Ghenghis Khan with many of them ending up in Japan where they are now Shinto.
https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/the-migration-of-the-khazar-jews-into-japan-where-judaism-morphed-into-shinto-and-the-lost-city-of-mu/
“Fifth, both Zionism and Nazism are twin brothers born from the same ugly womb: 19th century European nationalism.”
This is vulgar. European nationalism is a mixed bag, containing liberation movements and imperialist tendencies that may share the label “nationalist” but otherwise have nothing in common.
For example. Irish Republican nationalism fought the British Empire and proposed a secular state to embrace both Catholics and Protestants, while Orangeism was a imperialist ideology of Protestant oppression. Both were forms of nationalism.
Similarly, German nationalists in the 1920s (such as those around the Conservative Revolution) sought to free their land from the liberalism imposed by Anglo-Americans in 1919, while Nazis sought to impose their pan-Germanism on nations they hoped to subjugate.
In the Ukraine, it’s not simply the anti-fascism of the eastern Russian speakers that motivates their resistance to the Nazi nationalism of Kiev, but a nationalist consciousness rooted in an opposing belief system.
You can’t discuss “nationalism” in general terms without also discussing the qualifications that differentiate one form of nationalism from another.
There are, in a word, nationalist ideologies that favor self-determination and there are those that seek to deny self-determination to other nations.
i think that there is a real fear that some have with the “anglo zionist” word(s). They know, as I do, that words have great power. The time is long past to parse language nicely. Anglo-zionist perfectly calls out who those in power are. To know your oppressor is also power. After all, God created with “words”.
God helps us from lore of Zeus.
One can give lots of credit to Greeks/Romans for their imagination.
Religion of Semites hijacked and turned into Greek/Roman Lord Lucifer.
Paradise Lost, and God spent three days in hell, almost got trapped for life and didn’t get out.
The Creator cannot be a creation!
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Wholeheartedly agree that the term race used in the description of humans is a misnomer. We may have different cultures and local adaptations but we are all the same animal. So we may be Asian or Indo Caucasian in looks and practice Buddhism or atheism but those distinctions are secondary to being human.
If 80% of American Jews are secular, then they don’t have any notions of Exceptionalism. The prevailing notion of Exceptionalism in America today is American Exceptionalism. We have the moral right and might. As for the notions of Zionist Exceptionalism, they are embraced by 40 million rightwing Christian evangelicals today who need the Jews in Jerusalem so THEIR saviour and Lord Jesus will return to earth. Many of the of us secular Jews couldn’t care less about that particular piece of real estate in the Middle East.
More seriously, today’s fascist NATO imperialist axis also includes some of the former nonAngloZionist countries of the previous 20th century. Namely, France, Japan and now the Arab monarchies who are funding the murderous genocidal wars in Syria and Iraq. Japan, too, has once again voted in a militarist government which passed a secrecy law in December 2013, based on WWII Fascist Japan’s previous secrecy law which if violated, can imprison a person for 10 years. Japan is a critical player in the Asia Pivot of Hillary Clinton. The US wants to station nuclear armed submarines there aimed at China.
Regarding the Anglo/Zionist Empire, today’s fascist axis which includes the NATO fascist axis
@ Alien Tech,
Q; The US has shown something to the EU to make them do things the US way.. It has to be more than Ukraine.. More than US$.. something that would be as bad as WW3…
R: They’ve shown EU leaders the assassination of JFK from an angle no one else has ever seen before.
RIP, Bill Hicks.
The Controversy Of Zion by Douglas Reed is a must read for people who seek understanding of the currents of history flowing beneath the surface of our turbulent times. The book examines thousands of years of Jewish history of the majority of Jewry controlled and manipulated by a hereditary priesthood whose objective is to corral the tribe as an instrument of their lust for power and privilege over all. The meme of ‘God’s Chosen People’ in the Abrahamic Covenant is still a virulent source of racism not just by Jews, but many so called Christians as well. There are predatory castes in all religions concealed behind robes of righteousness. Humanity is plagued by deception, which is why I value Saker’s honest principled presentation of his practical definition of the partnership of the old Anglo aristocracies with the Zionist leaders of Jewry.
I will quote a few paragraphs from the preface of Controversy of Zion which opened my eyes to the contradictions and deceptions in my own families long documented history in a Christian ‘Chosen People’ sect. The Truth as presented through the eyes of Douglas Reed will be called anti-Semitic by some, but this slur has lost its power to intimidate me or many other people who sense a moment of time when a few open hungry minds can understand and add to the totality of human consciousness and human responsibility..like or not.
The internet is the equivalent lever to the expansion and cleansing of human knowledge as was the introduction of the Gutenberg Press five centuries ago. I could not put this book down until it was finished. Controversy of Zion has the ring of truth to change the flow of human consciousness. Enjoy!
“….. whether or not it would happen in his lifetime, there would come a time when circumstances would permit, and the means be found, to communicate to the world his message of history rewritten, and the central message of Christianity restated.
….The Controversy of Zion, can be left to speak for itself; indeed, it is a work of revisionist history and religious exposition the central message of which is revealed in almost every page, understanding and compassionate of people but severely critical of the inordinate and dangerous ambitions of their leaders.
In the final chapter, under the heading the Climacteric, Douglas Reed remarks that if he could have planned it all when he began writing his book in 1949, he could not have chosen a better moment than the last months of 1956 to review the long history of Talmudic Zionism and re-examine it against the background of what was still happening on the stage of world politics.
For 1956 was the year of another American presidential election in which, once again, the Zionists demonstrated their decisive power to influence Western politics; it was the year in which the nations of the West stood by as helpless spectators as Soviet forces were used to crush a spontaneous revolt and re-install a Jewish-Communist regime in Hungary; and it was the year in which Britain and France, under Zionist pressure, were drawn into the disastrous fiasco of an attempt to capture the Suez Canal, an adventure from which, once again, Israel alone gained any advantage.
Everything that has happened since Reed wrote those last sentences in 1956 has continued to endorse the correctness of his interpretation of more than 2000 years of troubled history.”
Nora, I have better things to do than order people about as you put it.
I gave a reasoned argument, based upon his own explanation showing that his thinking is a tad off-beam.
Have a look at what he wrote and at what I wrote and then, if you disagree with what I wrote tell us all why you disagree. I can then clarify or rebut. That’s what is called a discussion.
I believe that Saker does himself a disservice by taking to himself the trappings of the lunatic fringe, perhaps he believes that this is what people running successful but non-mainstream sites do.
Here’s a thing though, when one starts out by using labels that are inaccurate (as Saker himself told us his appellation AngloZionist is) and emotionally charged as the empirical evidence shows us each day on this site, then Saker is failing; failing to communicate his insights and ideas because he is pushing people away.
Saker himself told us what a better, more accurate and less emotionally charged term is: The 1 percent. He could also have used Deep State but that is probably not as clear in common usage as The 1 percent.
Here’s the thing: I believe that Saker DOES have prejudices in this area of his life and thought. For some reason he IS emotionally affected by Jews and the tribe of Jewry. If it were not so then I am certain that he’d not be so concerned by his own usage – he knows what he is but chooses to not challenge himself.
I spend a fair part of my life earning a crust by the output from my keyboard, what I write and how I write it is important. I try to not let my prejudices (and we all have ’em!) get between my words and my readers because I know that if I do that then I lose my audience. What Saker is doing is probably more important that what I do, but the process? Very similar!
Saker has made it clear that he does not wish to discuss his opinion on the matter but has opened a thread for discussion, seems kinda odd to me, but that’s why I wrote above, in response to his post. I hope he reads and takes on board that which I, and others, have written. To some degree, I think that is his intent, otherwise why to open a discussion?
Saker, whoever he is, has much to offer but he limits himself when he panders to his own prejudices and those of a small slice of his potential readers. That’s not fair to those who are turned away.
If a thing is, in and of itself, offensive then why take care to be offensive? Especially when that offensiveness is inaccurate?
Put it this way: if it were true that the 1 percent were universally from a single group of, for example, redheads or Germans then using redheads or Germans as a synonym for the 1 percenters is acceptable in the context of examining the activities of the people with the majority of power and wealth.
The problem is this: to say that all redheads or Germans are 1 percenters is inaccurate and thus becomes offensive when it becomes a repeated untruth.
But worse than that, Saker’s term is an invented one, personal to him. You will seek in vain for any group called AngloZionists!
The term Anglo Zionists is quite widely used, and often by those with prejudices and issues with Jews and Jewry. Sadly, Saker’s personal definition is not congruent with the normal usage of that term either – maximum confusion arises. :(
dusty: You make some very good points, but one thing you say is not correct: Saker he is not saying that “all redheads or Germans are 1 percentres”. Hh is not saying that all Jews or all Zionists are 1 percentres. And if fact, what he is saying that the 1 percentres, whether Jews, Zionists, or Anglos, don’t actually care about the 99% of their respective people – whether they be Jews, Zionists or Anglos.
Despite this very sensible sentence, The Saker insists on using the term ‘AngloZionist’. Like you, this puzzles me. Like you I am opposed to the term. My reasons are:
(1) the terms ‘AngloZionist’ and ‘AngloZionism’ must refer to something demonstratively real. This is important because, superficially, the terms sound racist even though The Saker does not mean them to be perceived that way;
(2) the two terms must be recognised by most receivers (reader; listeners) as referring to something demonstratively real, or as having immediate symbolic or metaphorical validity – what we might call ‘construct validity’.
For me, the problem is that The Saker and the defenders of the the two terms would like the terms recognised as valid and apt terms, terms that might, in the medium to long term, win friends and influence people, as it were. The Saker says he does not care whether the terms offend – and by saying that it is if he wants to offend. I am of an entirely different opinion. I don’t mind if some people are offended, but – being a pragmatist – I do care if a lot of people, percentage wise, are offended by these two terms.
The users and supporters of these two terms seems to want to use them ‘no matter what’, because they are angry about the close cooperation between the governments of the U.S., UK, and Israel, especially over the issue of Palestine. I am angry about it, too, but the users of a newly coined term must consider how the term is received. The main here thing is not their anger but winning widespread understanding and widespread support. Otherwise, on this issue, The Saker and the defenders of the terms will be seen as, at best hopelessly biased, at worst racist or engaged in both ‘over-inclusive’ and ‘over-specific’ thinking. ‘Over-inclusive’ because it sounds like there is a special bond between these two power elites that somehow affects and controls global affairs, not just Middle Eastern affairs; or ‘over-specific’ in that the terms seem to suggest that other political forces are not important, for example the German government, or NATO-ists, or the government of Saudi Arabia. The terms sound reductionist, meaning that ‘everything’ that troubles us politically and militarily can be reduced to, or laid at the door of, the UKUSA and Israeli governments and their lobby groups. They have a lot to answer for, but there are other important factors involved.
But, even if the leaderships of the Anglos and the Zionists constitute the main, over-arching problem, even if their ideologies and mythologies reign supreme, even id they form the ‘blueprint’ for all land-grabbing and deprivation of the 99%-ers everywhere, we have as our supreme task that of convincing the hitherto unconvinced. This task must not be overshadowed by our anger.
The users must consider the receivers. It’s not much good being right if one’s correctness is not apprehended, acknowledged and maybe acted on by the receiver. This is absolutely basic and crucial.
Like you, I am not trying order people about. This is a discussion thread and dusty and I are contributing to the discussion.
I think you and I agree on this point. – Gunnar
Hi, Saker, having some knowledge of previous undelivered weapons systems ;) U.S. to Repay Pakistan for Undelivered F-16s
https://www.armscontrol.org/node/3191 I wonder how long it would take France to repay Russia? The Pakistanis had to wait 8 years and only after paying bribes, er, hiring lobbyists to go to US president Clinton and members of Congress.
I appreciate this really looks bad for France.
The Iranians would like some recompense too http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/10/05/327790/iran-russia-continuing-talks-on-s300/
Hopefully Russia will overcome its Medvedevite inclinations. Until then, smaller countries will come to accept the truism that you cannot completely trust any superpower, every one looks after their own interest first after all.
I think to understand the repeated attempts to derail the discussion over the use of anglo/zionist one must be proficient in what I would call ziobonics. It is worthy of a complete college course in of itself. There will be heavy emphasis on victimization, opposition of racism for all of course except themselves who kill unarmed Palestinians like wild dogs.
In fact the talmud speaks of a day when there will be no nationalism or concepts of race. This makes the herd easier to manage by those who feel themselves superior.
At times jews will call themselves a race and at other times they will refer to themselves as a religion. Researchers in Japan even indicate that Shinto jews there recognize themselves by Haplogroup E1B1 Y-DNA blood grouping. The mother carries this cohan gene and that is why you are not considered jewish unless you have a jewish mother.
Incidentally Hitler’s relatives in Ireland (Bridgette Hitler) tested positive for this DNA as Hitler was indeed a Rothschild. Hitler’s half sister Angela left the jewish kitchen in Vienna and moved into Hitler’s home. She was jewish.
http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/the-irish-hitler-the-strange-tale-of-bridget-hitler-and-the-nazi-leader-156889665-237617891.html
http://greghallett.com
The idea of controlling every discussion probably stems from talmudic teachings as all non jews there are referred to as cattle and destined to serve the chosen.
So we see these types try to control the framework of any debate and call it chutzpah.
As for the anglo sect, the Windsors are Khazar and carry this blood grouping also. They refer to themselves as the lion of David. They carefully replaced the Merovingian bloodline over the years.
Disraeli was the first jewish prime minister there and he called for alliance of jewish and elite aryan bloodlines to rule the world.
http://aangirfan.blogspot.nl/2013/08/the-gay-father-of-nazism-and-zionism.html
The whitehall masons are jews in training as they go on and on about Hiram Biff.
As for the vatican it is higher on the pyramid than the City of London. Loyola was jewish himself and so were many popes. jews of jesuit descent lists hundreds of jesuits who were jewish and there have been many jewish popes. That includes John Paul, Innocente and many others. Cardinal O’Connor had a sister that admitted he too was jewish.
https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2013/05/05/alexander-child-of-fire-updated/
It’s Saker’s choice. He has done a service to East Ukrainians by writing about their unfair treatment. I’m not criticising.
I wish there was a Friends of Novorossiya site that presented the arguments and evidence to support those people. It would quietly discourage the armchair warriors, racists and the tin foil hat brigade. It would aim to inform and educate and thereby reinforce expressions of the common human values that most of us share.
Sadly there isn’t such a thing and I am not capable of creating it. So I just hang a flag in my window, sit at my computer and wring my hands.
Time to move on.
re Nora @18:36:
“Anonymous 17:16,
I’m in the generation you speak of, the “h” word wasn’t even in common parlance until the 1980’s and the anti-Semitism canard right now is mostly aimed at people Jews don’t like.
I.e., nice try but still no go.”
Nice try at what, pray tell ? — Anonymous 17:16
anWell, I’m new, so I suppose this post is directed at me.
I will admit that when I first saw the term “Anglo-Zionist,” I cringed – not due to any anti-anti-Semitic sentiment, but because it sounded like NWO/Windsor-Rothschild/Judeo-Masonic/Brotherhood of Reptilian Bilderbergers conspiracy theory. For a moment, I was disheartened by the thought that the informative blog upon which I’d just stumbled was being written from an underground bunker in Idaho. However, upon reading further, I realized how you were using the term, and this post removes all confusion. I wouldn’t necessarily use it this way, but so what? It’s your blog, you get to define your terminology, and you’ve gone to extra lengths to explain exactly what you mean by it.
Perhaps it wouldn’t hurt to embed a link to this post in the first use of “Anglo-Zionist” in future articles.
Also, for a good historical perspective on the Zionist movement, I highly recommend William Polk’s piece for Consortium News:
http://consortiumnews.com/2014/08/11/the-battle-for-palestine/
Thank you for your good work!
Thank you, Saker.
Putting a stake in the ground to pin down the imprecise, saying so and then refusing to budge when people line up to point out how imprecise you are because of reason a, b and c. The alternatives (if even offered) are always binary:
1. Your stake is in the wrong place. I know what you mean but others won’t, so the stake should really go over here!
– or –
2. You must not put a stake in the ground – ever. Only use the approved stakes so nobody is offended.
The more one contemplates the above arguments, the easier it is to see how language is such a wonderful thing to use as a control mechanism. It’s best to keep ‘dangerous’ thoughts suppressed, nebulous or un-expressible and encourage only ‘correct’ thoughts by automatic association with words for marginally-related existing ‘correct’ thoughts.
I encourage everyone else to acknowledge the limitations of their language and do exactly what needs to be done on occasion: put a stake in the ground somewhere for the undefined or difficult to express, acknowledge the term’s imprecision and then MOVE ON so we can hear the important stuff you’re trying to say.
Is AngloZionist the ‘correct’ term? I don’t give a damn – it’s close enough. I am capable of independent thought – I can clearly understand what he means.
If I wanted simple and uncomplicated, I would just watch CNN and read the New York Times.
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize”
Voltaire
Alright. Point taken. Didn’t need to read the article, the phrase was quite sufficient.
Amazing how certain truths never change, regardless of the current occupant.
Being raised in in the USSA, I was taught to believe that jews equal good, while arab/moslem equals bad. Then I learned about the evil doings of my government from the rogue CIA agent Phillip Agee’s books.Since the days of WW II , the USA was mucking up the governments around the world.Fast forward things got even uglier when the Zionist cause infiltrated my american government, late 20th century. The politicians sold us out starting with the israeli attack on the USS Liberty. Ever since Eisenhower told the israelis to get out of the sinai the zionist realized that there plan of complete control of their destiny required them to control the most powerful nation on the planet. which i believe all these dual citizenship israeli firsters have accomplished in most of the government. I must say that I WAS PLAYED FOR A FOOL by the evil doers by being manipulated by the zionist. This will not end well. For zionist have no need for the truth, if what they are doing is so great why hide, lie, confuse, ATTACK, discredit and otherwise destroy non-jewish lives over evil plans? A saker must have keen vision and killer instincts to survive, you excel at both as demonstrated by your well thought out and honest piece on this topic no one in the USSA is allowed to discuss. And the abolsute belief by american faux-christians to make armeggedon happen by pushing for the upcoming nuclear war with Russia next month. Of course these nice faux-christians can’t wait for the destuction of israel. Racist? Karma Cometh. Praise be to God. Thank you for educating me further. Tired of being a israeli hostage.I want my country back.
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Saker, I celebrate your clarification! Your website gives so much clarity on the situation in Ukraine that I haven’t been able to stay away, even though I’ve sheltered fears that you might be an anti-Semite (actually, I think antisemite is a better term because it describes a uniquely anti-Jewish phenomenon). But now I know my fears were unfounded.
The only problem I have now is with the limitation of your term AngloZionist. I think an “Anonymous” blogger at 03 September, 2014 17:17 had a good idea suggesting the term Natoist, or perhaps better NATO-ist. This is still unsatisfactory to me, however, because it hides the forces behind the creation of NATO, which was a post-World War alliance of the Western allies (in a betrayal of the Soviet Union) with the civilian German Nazi regime and its allies in Europe. I don’t think it’s fair to say that Great Russian Nationalists can’t be global imperialists or even sponsors of global fascism, but that doesn’t explain the current reality. So, in that sense, it’s preferable to direct attention to the Anglo and Zionist power elite — but that still leaves out the Western European powers that are behind NATO, and their allied front organizations in Eastern Europe (OUN/B, for example).
What best explains the obvious relevance of your AngloZionist term are the related facts that the Anglo-Americans (and others of the Echelon group) betrayed the war-time alliance with Russia and that a dominating faction among the founders of the State of Israel were Hitler-and-Mussolini allies (at least before Stalingrad). But I think it’s a mistake to leave out the other players who’ve worked diligently for the past 60 years to reconstitute the fascist Axis in Europe (and to some extent in Japan, as well). It’s no historical accident that Ronald Reagan hosted representatives of the Ukrainian OUN/B, Hungarian Arrow Cross, and other Hitler allies in the White House in the 1980s as part of the “Captive Nations” and “Republican Ethnic Outreach” programs. See:
http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-113-the-republican-party-and-international-fascism/ This is not to say that the U.S. Democrats differ appreciably with the Republicans. But the fact remains that the same transnational Nazi alliance was behind the assassination of President John F Kennedy and by gunning down Kennedy in broad daylight broke the domination of the FDR (Franklin Roosevelt) Democrats, thus opening the way for the ongoing Nazification of the U.S., just as John J McCloy (who participated in the JFK assassination cover-up) played the leading role in halting the de-Nazification of West Germany.
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I would therefore suggest that the proper term for the current leadership of global imperialism (as distinct from the national imperialisms of the past) is The Nazi International. I would recommend the early work of radio broadcaster Dave Emory (who sadly today has gravitated to a position soft on Israeli Zionism and rather anti-German) in elucidating and concretizing the historical links that go back to the end of the World War/Great Patriotic War. Emory’s radio archives are found at his Anti-Fascist Archives page. See: http://spitfirelist.com/audio/afa-complete-audio/ There are a lot of comparisons that make sense when the current strategies of global fascism today are compared to those of the German-Fascist Axis of the 1930s and ’40s. Many researchers besides Dave Emory are noticing these. Emory has collected the work of prominent, respected anti-fascist researchers who have uncovered the chain of evidence going back all the way to the Third Reich. The German Nazis had extensive transnational networks that didn’t disappear at the end of the war. Would the “1%” have not taken advantage of such valuable global-fascist experience? It’s not inconceivable to me that the same forces behind Operation Barbarossa in the 1940s are making the effort to try the same operation again. This, rather than the rise of a new manifestation of the British Empire with an American and Jewish face, best explains the origin of the crisis in Ukraine.
You have identified the main problem with the terminology-label, and it makes the rest of your analysis moot. Viz. ‘even though “Anglo” is an ethnic/linguistic/cultural category while “Zionist” is a political/ideological one, very rarely do I get an objection about speaking of “Anglos” or the “Anglosphere”.’
The label you prefer makes it appear that Zionism is the primary ideology of the “Anglos.” Manifestly, it is not. The primary ideology is American and British exceptionalism for its imperialist program. This is said to be “democracy,” but is really democracy only for,the 1% (or ruling class, if you prefer).
The proper term should be Anglo-Israeli imperialists, or U.S./UK-Israeli imperialists. If you must add ideology, you have to do it on both sides of the equation, e.g. Anglo Beougeois Democrats and Zionists. The problem is undue primary influence is given to Zionism, as if it were the primary ideology of US and UK (and Canadian!) rulers. It is not. That ideology is US manifest destiny and anti-communism, in two flavors: “liberal” and conservative.
You can use what labels you wish. I don’t read you for your sociology anyway.
Nora, your friend’insightful remark to you reminds me very much of the tenor of Vera Graziadei’s latest terrific entry on her blog regarding the abject horrors of war and real growth as human beings.
The use of 1% is not appropriate. We do not know what percentage the Deep State forms. The idea of ‘1%’ was coined as a simple shorthand descriptor, a name, rather than exactly 1% of the relevant group. Anglo-Zionist is clearer and much more appropriate.
If anyone objects to the use of ‘Anglo-Zionist’ then they can just mentally convert it to ‘1%’ or whatever magic figure they want whenever they come across it in this blog.
Another example of Israeli control of Australian politics is the fate of our late, unlamented, Prime Monster, Kevin Rudd. Rudd was a true narcissistic egomaniac and utter control freak, but did one or two good things. He changed some of our UN votes to be more supportive of the Palestinians and less egregiously servile to Israel. And, when Mossad stole Australian passport identities to be used in the ritual slaughter of a Hamas official in Dubai, he expelled an Israeli ‘diplomat’ a Mossad goon, at the insistence of Australian intelligence. You see, the Israelis had stolen our passport identities before, and had ‘promised’ not to do it again. Pardon me while I laugh.
Once that happened Rudd was a marked man. The Murdoch sewer, a 150% pro-Israel in everything cancer on our society, redoubled its hate propaganda against him. Finally there was a leadership coup, and he was replaced by his deputy, Gillard, a complete stooge of the Israel Lobby (she attempted to force an Australian vote against Palestinian recognition at the UN, despite ten Cabinet colleagues being against her and only two in favour, calling it a ‘captain’s call’). And it now has been revealed that the dumping of Rudd was essentially carried out by a tiny hard Right cabal in the ALP, many mentioned in Wikileaks cables as US intelligence assets, and all 150% pro-Israel die-hards. QED.
As for Obama, if you read the ‘Chicago Jewish News’, October 24, 2008, the article ‘Obama and the Jews’, by Pauline Yearwood, you will see that Obama is 100% Zionist owned property. He was talent-spotted and recruited at college by Zionists, then given his first job, and propelled through his political career by rich Chicago Jews, including the Pritzker family, one of whom, Penny, he made Commerce Secretary. And, as Abner Mikvah, a Jewish former judge, former Congressman and Clinton apparatchik proclaimed, Obama is not really the first ‘black’ US President, but the first Jewish one.
Great presentation, Saker. I think the term Anglo-Zionist is a good one because it brings the sense of tribalism that is at the heart of the Deep State. I think for both the Anglo and the Zionist part of these elites it is, as you say, not ethnic but tribal/cultural. Obama can be as Anglo as Bush–the Zionist part is more interesting since they have come later to the feast–they are more ambitious and more ruthless and it lies at the heart of the realist and neoconservative conflicts.
Dear Saker,
As usual, you have gone straight to the point.
The “Jewish Problem” has been of great relevance to the historiography of the XXth century, which is dominated by tye problem of identity, and as the present war shows us, it remains extremely actual. Slezkine, a forner Jewish Moscovite who is a history professor in Princeton, wrote a book on the Jewishness of the xxth century. The issue of identity is crucial to the liberals which originated in Anglia. It is related not only to the shared exceptionality of Anglos and biblical and postbiblical Judaisml but basically to the idea of a segregated individuality (please see On Identity, from Alain de Benoit, the founder of the New Right, in France) rather than an individuality which is construed in terms of empathy, which is actually the very core of human physiology (mirror neurons).
Stalin was rightly suspicious that the tribal character of Judaism could be the source for a 5th column through thevTrotskites (remarkably, the neocons were Trotskytes in their never tender youth), but could have ever been able to fathom its roots in the think globally and act locally for th3 sake of the 0.00001 per cent, would not have been by the confession of the former Soviet ambassador to France that Trotsky was an agent for the banksters(as one learns from reading the interrogatory of the KGB compiled as Red Symphony, available in the web).
So indeed, as an ex-Jew, i can not but agree with your assertion of the tribalistid ideology.
With respect to the religion of Abraham, Itzhak and Jacob, it had very little to do with rabbinical Judaism. Quite paradoxically, it was keenly related to the knowledge of the natutal principles that the State of Israel would implcitly recognize in adopting the Menorah for its seal. It represents seven deities corresponding to the sun, moon and five visible planets, a basis for a religion that predates Abraham to which he was educated, yet which is common to many religions.
Kind regards,
Patagonian
Dear Saker,
As usual, you have gone straight to the point.
The “Jewish Problem” has been of great relevance to the historiography of the XXth century, which is dominated by tye problem of identity, and as the present war shows us, it remains extremely actual. Slezkine, a forner Jewish Moscovite who is a history professor in Princeton, wrote a book on the Jewishness of the xxth century. The issue of identity is crucial to the liberals which originated in Anglia. It is related not only to the shared exceptionality of Anglos and biblical and postbiblical Judaisml but basically to the idea of a segregated individuality (please see On Identity, from Alain de Benoit, the founder of the New Right, in France) rather than an individuality which is construed in terms of empathy, which is actually the very core of human physiology (mirror neurons).
Stalin was rightly suspicious that the tribal character of Judaism could be the source for a 5th column through thevTrotskites (remarkably, the neocons were Trotskytes in their never tender youth), but could have ever been able to fathom its roots in the think globally and act locally for th3 sake of the 0.00001 per cent, would not have been by the confession of the former Soviet ambassador to France that Trotsky was an agent for the banksters(as one learns from reading the interrogatory of the KGB compiled as Red Symphony, available in the web).
So indeed, as an ex-Jew, i can not but agree with your assertion of the tribalistid ideology.
With respect to the religion of Abraham, Itzhak and Jacob, it had very little to do with rabbinical Judaism. Quite paradoxically, it was keenly related to the knowledge of the natutal principles that the State of Israel would implcitly recognize in adopting the Menorah for its seal. It represents seven deities corresponding to the sun, moon and five visible planets, a basis for a religion that predates Abraham to which he was educated, yet which is common to many religions.
Kind regards,
Patagonian
Hi Saker.
I agree with you not to conflate Jews and Zionism, and I agree with you too that the concept of race is not only ill defined, but erroneous in fact.
There is such a thing as lineage though, and ethnicity.
In the Quran, it says that among God’s great signs, are our diversity in skin colours and languages.
Now about ethnicity and lineage, Jews are Israelites, post the enslavement of Babylon.
The word Jew in the Quran is actually Yahud, which in fact means in Arabic the “one who returned to God in repentance”.
I could go on on this, as I studied it pretty deep.
But suffice it to say that what we have now is non Israelites coming into the fold of a faith that started as lineage based, this purports particularly to the mass conversion of a huge tribe to Judaism through King Bulan decision of the Khazars.
I will stop here as it will take too long to elaborate on this.
One thing I might add that will intrigue you, or not:
I believe and accept, despite being an Arab-Jew, that Israel is not the correct place for the Holy land, that its position is in South West Arabia in the Asir mountains region.
Anglo-Israeli would still work for Saker, no?
dusty,
It’s. His. Blog.
Why not start your own that can fully meet your personal criteria, if for no other reason than passing judgment on him and, yes, yes, ordering him around — in his home, no less — a) won’t work; and b) really is rude as hell. Certainly no one’s forcing you to come here and read. So my personal opinion (and I’m as entitled to mine as you are to yours, remember; this is just opinions now, not facts) is that what you’re doing by pushing so hard here — especially where he’s stated his views and highly unlikely to change his mind just bc you don’t like them — is even more pointless than it is rude.
Why, again, are you bothering?
There is just a kind of pathology floating around in this day and age that somehow, if people hear something they don’t like, regardless of whether that something is fact, data, evidence or simply an opinion that somehow makes them uncomfortable, they have the automatic right to “Make it stop NOW, Mommy!”
Fergawdsakes.
Now you’re clearly not the only one who’s done that lately, but dear Heavens, it’s hardly responsible adult behavior. Just deal with it, ok? You have no right to impose your thoughts, beliefs, feelings, wants, needs, discomforts, or anything else on anyone else here, Much. Less. Do. That. To. Your. Host. You’ve stated your case, he doesn’t give a damn, deal with it already and stop whining.
Dare I call it entitlement — bc it sure smells just like it. Which is to say, your hasbarat is showing, again.
Anonymous 22:56
Nice try at Hasbarat bullshit. Next question?
Paveway Mk IV,
You’re assuming the friggin’ Hasbarat actually desire clear language or any kind of conversation where their exceptionalism is less-than-dutifully praised and their goals enhanced by we untermenschen. You’re getting a pretty good picture of at least some of their nonsense right on this thread. That stake you’re talking about? It belongs right in the heart of the AZ Empire. And when I think simply of Gaza, I’d like to see every Zionist — I don’t care what they believe, if they support that shitty little state they’re a Zionist — plus every member of Congress (every last one of them voted for it) tried for treason and grateful for lifetime sentences, oh, maybe in Baghram, maybe Guantanamo; just get them the hell out of here. Anyone in DC found responsible for the horrors of Odessa, Mariupol, Slavyansk et. al., same deal. Enough already. And these creeps try to derail us bc it hurts their widdle feelings…
Written by an Israeli: http://nakedking2.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/israel-jews-and-peace/
your anglo/zionist language is perfect. perchance not intended but that was very entertaining.
@Madhros,
Thank you for taking the pain to put thing straight.
I would recommend, for a further clarification (not for you) of the notions of Judaism, Jews the following article of Prof. Steve Mason: “Jews, Judaeans, Judaizing, Judaism: Problems of Categorization in Ancient History”.
(http://www.academia.edu/2978440/Jews_Judaeans_Judaizing_Judaism_Problems_of_Categorization_in_Ancient_History)
An excellent mise au point which raised a storm of indignation from the usual quarters, which you can check at:
“Jew and Judean: A Forum on Politics and Historiography in the Translation of Ancient Texts
Marginalia: August 26, 2014″ (@http://www.bibleinterp.com/news/news_Aug_2014.shtml).
I enjoyed reading your Anglo/Zionist explanation, and chuckled all the way through the Q and A.
Keep it up.
Anon Hollander
I found your blog and had put it in my slate comments as suggested reading, last week.
However this article has one serious issue, may I request to address it if you think following are logical.
(1) You say race is well defined. Then why so much focus on racism – which is not well defined ?
(2) Race was actually studied as a scientific subject, from anthropology with connection to religion, language and everything else. So if you knew the physical or biological measurements, then you could predict a whole lot about the people.
The ‘Anglo’ were involved in it with spreading of empire, though an older english culture mayn’t.
(3) Racism has logical equivalents, but they mayn’t be deadly because they can be shouted out. For example, Looking at the map, I can say Russians are good at manufacturing because their neighbor Chinese are! It is false. It tries to deduct complex patterns from trivial information.
But racism is a unique error which attempted to correlate body parts and biology to humans. It is an european phenomena of a period, the ideas pervaded science, religion ( yes Christianity included) and in return justified the other fields.
(4) While the semite is considered a “race” by many ( and hence whatever they suffered), it is not clear if jews see them this way. In fact, Jews have given many blow to this kind of racial ideas by putting ideas which are not related to body or biology.
Therefore, there is a need to be very cautious on throwing racism around to all differences.
(5) Violence is not limited to anglo-zionist – though I get your point, some people are comfortable with huge military alliances even in this age. But the point is ISIS could be more brutal.
(6) Race as a theory, is an european view of the world during the colonial period in last centuries. For good it has changed.
Today we can refer to Russian view when Russian govt, PM all say they don’t invade. We can accept the jews as a religion when they say they are a religion.
I can see why many appreciate your blog. You may delete the comment if you don;t like discussion of this subject of ‘race’, I understand your blog stands for a different focus.
Nupura.
I think the US will be the next place where the Jewish influence will be decimated.
Nora @ 01:56
“…You’re assuming the friggin’ Hasbarat actually desire clear language or any kind of conversation where their exceptionalism is less-than-dutifully praised and their goals enhanced by we untermenschen…”
Maybe you missed the part of my post where I mention language as such a wonderful control mechanism. That’s necessarily done though the use of what seems like clear language expressed in simple words. It’s designed to be subtle otherwise it wouldn’t work to disarm a person’s critical thinking abilities. Done right, it’s damn hard to detect.
I don’t care for the messages CNN and the New York Times try to feed me, but I respect the skill and methods they employ to do so. They work. They work exceptionally well on a good percentage of the population.
Bringing up Hasbara’s ham-handed attempts to steer the narrative in internet conversations is not an example of subtle deception through language control.
There are Many People wondering why the European Union with All of its Alleged European Values has said nothing concerning these one Million Refugees in Europe.
We Already know that America Only has one Value and that is to be the Tyrant of the World with Rigged Elections that Mainly Only allow for Puppet Politicians.
For this they need Israel, and this is why at times, Israel is able to Influence Anglo-America, and its Puppet the European Union.
The Nazi Zionists needs Ukraine to be a Country where Ethnic Cleansing of All Non Ukrainians has the Focus of the World, because Israel does not want People to look at the Ethnic Cleaning of the Palestinians, which they have Long Schemed, and Craved, and which is an Integral Part of their Evil and Nazi Characters, and so this civil war in Ukraine was Engineered by America for the benefit of Nazi Israel, to Conceal Israel’s Plans to Ethnically Cleaning of All Non Jews, and for which the World has Plenty of Evidence
The Ukrainians in the East of Ukraine, who speak Russian consider the Ukrainians who speak Ukrainian in the West of Ukraine to be of the same Race, but the Nazis of Ukraine say they are a Different Race, and want to murder or expel anyone who is not of the Ukrainian Race, and who is not a Neo Nazi, just like their recent ancestors were Hitler’s Nazi Allies, but the Reality is that there is Only One Race, the Human Race.
Obviously the West Ukrainians will not admit to this, but those are are Informed over the events in Ukraine since November 2013, know these things to be Facts.
What this means is that America and the European Union of Values Know All These Facts, and they will not let the West Ukraine Apologize for this, and so the Question for those who want Peace in Ukraine, is how Nazis and Non Nazis can live in a Unified Country, and the they would suggest a Federalized Decentralized and Militarily Neutral Country.
This is because the Ukrainian Nazis will look for Assistance from Nazi Anglo-America led NATO and Nazi European Union to Ethnically Cleanse all the Non Ukrainians to the praise and glory of Adolf Hitler, and of his Ideology.
Nazi Anglo-America wants WW 3, because they want to decimate the European Economy to buy up Europe on the Cheap, and they have their Puppets in Europe.
There are some smaller Countries in the European Union who have some Principles and some Rationality, but they will be under Immense Pressure to be Nazis.
They say that in Every Septic Tank, that the Solids Rise to the Top, and there could some People who think that this is why Scotland is holding a Referendum to be Independent from Nazi England.
There would need to be Economic Autonomy, if Ukraine’s Economy is to Recover, and each Oblast would pay 15 % of what they earn to the Federal Ukrainian Government, who will account for that Money, and let the Oblasts Vote for Good Economic Managers.
The Lying Western Journalists have Cunningly called the Eastern Ukrainians as pro Russian separatists, because they wish to Maliciously Slander their Victims, and the People of East Ukraine are Pro Liberty, and Pro Freedom, and they have been Denied their Constitutional Democracy by the Illegitimate Nazi Coup Junta in Kiev, and they are Only Defending themselves from Nazi attacks, as it Obvious to those who know the Facts, and this includes All Politicians of the European Union and America.
There Could be People who think that a More Responsible Coup Junta in Kiev may have been able to convince Crimea to become an Independent Country in Confederation with Ukraine, but Crimea would have wanted All Former Bribed and Corrupted Ukrainian Politicians and High Officials to resign, and be replaced with Honest Democratic Representatives, but the People of Crimea know that Ukraine needs to amend their Constitution to say that Crimea is Independent of Ukraine, and the People of Crimea Voted to be Independent from a Nazi Racist Ukraine.
God save us from broken records!
Greeks and Romans had no Lord Lucifer in their pantheon. It was just the Latin name for the morning star.
Trying to contest the Word of God by means of languages issues is a sign of that (erudite) madness I spoke about.
The Word of God owns and contains all the languages and meanings.
The Creator is a Person, not a book and not a concept!
Incarnation does not mean creation! You do not create your children, you just give flesh to their spirits, created by God as much as all the wonders of that flesh-giving, none of them you understand or control apart from their mere mechanic.
Just so God did choose the Most Pure and Ever Virgin Mary to give flesh to His Spirit, so that His Word (His relation with His Creation) could walk among men and teach them His Ways.
The Creator is a Person, not a book and not a concept!
His Spirit and His Word are not Creation of Him, as much as your spirit and your word is not a creation of yours.
They proceed and are begotten by you, as NECESSARY foundations for all of your creations (you are in His likeness).
Just so They proceeded and were begotten by Him before all the ages to express His will to create, calling into existence everything (His Word) and bestowing life upon His Creation (His Spirit).
The Creator is a Person, not a book and not a concept!
His Spirit and His Word ARE Him, not different Persons, as much as you ARE your spirit and your word. They are not different from you, not in essence, not in substance; they are just expressions of you and ARE you.
The Creator is a Person, not a book and not a concept!
You are in His likeness. If you want to squander that incredible gift in semantic pedantry, itemizing the 200 different sounds and suffixes of “I don’t have a clue!”, please feel free.
But do not mock the LORD! It’s a terrible thing to fall in the hands of the living God!
@ WizOz
Thank you for the links!
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize
This is a good phrase, but it is a common misconception that it is a quote by Voltaire. It appears to have been first coined by the American white supremacist Kevin Strom.
See http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Voltaire
(near the bottom)
honestly Saker the situation is a bit more complicated, for some you’re jew only if your mother is (the great Esther) while you’re not if your father is and you’re mother isn’t, i can only te ll you that Ukraine and Poland are land considered very close to Jews interest, exactly like Georgia, they call it Karlia, if i’m not wrong, but you’ll possibly need another blog to fully investigate the situation of Judaism and Zionism.
ciao from failed state formerly known as Italy.
p.s. i hope you know most of the people here are pro-Russia, just read the comments on italian newssite and you’ll know, that’s why i fear a big strike here (false flag) dpo you know 11 commercial planes are misteriously missing in Lybia?
stay tune, could be another strike (see also the price of gold in these days)
Great work, Saker. Just wanted to add (if it hasn’t already been added) this article by Paul Craig Roberts about the way the Israeli lobby in the US is now destroying academic careers in the US of even tenured professors should they dare utter criticism of Israel. This proves your point re: Anglo-Zionism very well:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/08/27/israel-lobby-eliminates-another-critic-paul-craig-roberts/
You just can’t understand, that the Creator is not a Person. He is not a human being. Look at the Universe and you can realize that the Creator has Created umpteen creations.
You can quote your book all day long and it won’t make a tidy difference. The TaNaKh which you call OT, is not your book. You can twist the TaNaKh to your heart content, but it wouldn’t make any difference.
The TaNaKh was unreadable until the 12th to 15th centuries, until when the proper grammar was interested into TaNaKh from the Holy Quran. The Hebrew was revived from Arabic in 19th century.
LOL! The Septuagint, only the Torah was translated before the birth of Jesus. Just the Word is twisted in Torah, TaNaKh so is the Word twisted in the Holy Quran by those person. When the Holy Quran says, “Jesus is a Word from Allah”, the twisting of Quran is taken to it heights.
God is not a Person. A Creator is not a creation. Time, Space, Emotions, everything you see is creation.
God doesn’t have Emotions.
God doesn’t have enemies. God is not in a perpetual war, He is in perpetual perfect harmony.
There is nothing like UNTO HIM.
Even the Wahhabis believe as above, because it is in the Holy Quran.
God doesn’t need your help in creating greater Israel, and destroying the whole mankind in the process.
The angels cannot sin, as they have not been given desire. They don’t have desire, therefore they can’t envy mankind. They just follow Commands of God.
Any creation which can sin has been given the power of repentance by the Just God.
Twisting of TaNaKh and Quran will not make your religion. Jesus was a Semite, he was a Jew and not Greek/Roman like Lord Lucifer.
Ask any Jew, and he/she will tell you that the reference to “Morning Star” was to King of Babylon. Isaiah is not the last book in TaNaKh, and all the prophesies in Isaiah are about King of Babylon and they came true before the birth of Jesus.
There is NOT a “virgin” mentioned in Isaiah, TaNaKh.
Enough Said,
Mohamed.
A Creator is NOT creation. Time, Space, Emotions, Bodily Needs, anything you can see around you is creation.
There is nothing like UNTO HIM
God doesn’t have emotions, like love, hate, despise, prejudice, tiredness and so forth.
God doesn’t have “chosen people” If we are God’s children, then the animals are God’s children too. All creation is God’s children. I don’t mean Literally, like the Wahhabis take everything Literally.
God doesn’t have bodily need, like eat, sleep, tiredness, aging, perspiring, shit, pee and so forth.
God wasn’t trapped in Hell for three days and couldn’t make out of Hell.
There is nothing like UNTO HIM
God is not Him or Her, God is IT. He don’t have sex organs like male and female.
allah, eloh and elohim are all feminine nouns.
There is nothing like UNTO HIM
Enough Said,
Mohamed.
I really like this blog! It feels so good to have your thoughts affirmed for once and not feel like a lunatic for thinking 1+1=2.
You are in His likeness. If you want to squander that incredible gift in semantic pedantry, itemizing the 200 different sounds and suffixes of “I don’t have a clue!”, please feel free.
But do not mock the LORD! It’s a terrible thing to fall in the hands of the living God!
NO, I am NOT created in His Likeness. Neither Hitler.
42:11
[He is] Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you from yourselves, mates, and among the cattle, mates; He multiplies you thereby. There is nothing like UNTO HIM, and He is the All Hearing, the All Seeing.
The TaNaKh is not your book, quit twisting it. Broken record are made everyday.
You don’t know my religion, nor you know Judaism.
You think you know my religion and know Jews religion too being a Greek/Roman.
Your religion is constant wars and persecutions of Jews, thinking that they are the tribe of satan.
Ticking Bomb. Tic, toc, tick, tock.
You think you are helping God, as He needs your help. He is Incapable Person who needs your help, and cannot do without your help.
Enough Said,
Mohamed.
The TaNaKh, your good book the Gospels, and all other good books tell us, “to love our neighbors”. Meaning all living life especially, those around us. To love humans, animals, plants, birds, fish and so forth.
But you hate Jews like the Zionist Christians do.
Just like the Zionist Christians are helping God for Greater Israel and the eventual destruction of Jews, you are helping God to take revenge for his death on Jews. The hatred is same.
God dies and spends three days in Hell, and barely makes it out.
To those who think my posts are geared for Saker, those people are sadly mistaken. My posts are geared for those, who are well known to Saker and almost most of the posters on this blog.
Enough Said,
Mohamed.
@Lucifer=Phosphorus
See what the Apostles understood by the “morning star”:
2 Peter 1:16-21(KJV):
16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts
(19 καὶ ἔχομεν βεβαιότερον τὸν προφητικὸν λόγον, ᾧ καλῶς ποιεῖτε προσέχοντες ὡς λύχνῳ φαίνοντι ἐν αὐχμηρῷ τόπῳ, ἕως οὗ ἡμέρα διαυγάσῃ καὶ φωσφόρος ἀνατείλῃ ἐν ταῖς καρδίαις ὑμῶν)·
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
I was on Mount Tabor and I also saw the Holy Light descending over the Holy Sepulcher.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
dusty:
»same intellectual pedestal as such noted lunatics as David Icke«
Is he a lunatic? Or is he just making money from selling lunacy? There seems to be a market for it in the Anglosphere.
Whatever his lunacy or sunshininess, if he agrees one and one make two, he’s sure right, isn’t he?
»conflating ‘Englishness’ and ‘Jewishness’«
The Saker isn’t. Read more carefully. The Saker wrote:
»The US Empire is run by a 1% (or less) elite which can be called the “deep state” which is composed of two main groups: Anglos and Jews. These two groups are in many ways hostile to each other (just like the SS and SA or Trotskysts and Stalinists), but they share 1) a racist outlook on the rest of mankind 2) a messianic ideology 3) a phenomenal propensity for violence 4) an obsession with money and greed and its power to corrupt. So they work together almost all the time.«
Looks like you skipped that paragraph. Or confused the words »conflated« and »composed«. As I am German and you are Briton, it would be unsuitable for me to point out the difference to you. :-P
»The 1% is made up of all sorts of ethnic groups or ‘tribes’, Jews, Britons, […]«
Again, from the paragraph quoted above: »two main groups«. These groups command their states, i.e. its economic, financial, political, cultural and military power. They fought wars to defeat competing powers, like Germany and Japan. (Even though Germany was defeated to three quarters by the Soviet Union, and the Western part was more like reaping the benefits.)
To quote the Saker again:
»[…] the US Empire is really based on a select group of nations: the Echelon countries, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK and, of course, the US. What do these countries have in common? They are the leftovers of the British Empire and they are all English speaking. Notice that France, Germany or Japan are not part of this elite even though they are arguably as important or more to the USA then, say, New Zealand and far more powerful. So the “Anglo” part is undeniable.«
Got that? English speaking? Undeniably.
The other countries are »partners«. They are useful to provide goods, manpower, intelligence, military outposts and so on to the Empire of Greed. They’re important, but they’re not indispensable, and they’ll be sacrificed if nuclear push comes to shove. It’s much better to sacrifice someone else’s country than your own, would you not agree? Yeah, damn, fuck them. That’s the approach.
About the Zionist connection, I second Abdelnour’s recommendation to read:
Who is the Enemy?, by Thierry Meyssan
http://www.voltairenet.org/article184973.html
Paveway Mk IV,
Nope. I totally agree with you. The minute I think of Gaza, my blood boils though; sorry if I spilled any on you — it sure was not my intent. ;~)
I am just thoroughly sick of the lot of them and would like to live long enough to see justice be done. And I’m not talking only Jews by any means: as others have pointed out, Christian Zionist, both nutcake and threatened/bribed/whatever, have a lot of power. But you can sure sniff out the hasbarat, can’t you? They think they’re so darned slick but they’re soooo easy to spot! ;~)
The explanation by the Saker is clear. The anglo(american establishment) as well as the zionists have agendas with a substantial degree of overlap.
The term in itself is open to different interpretations. It is however quite fitting if you trust the available info regarding reverend W Blackstone.
http://www.jewish-american-society-for-historic-preservation.org/images/Brandeis_Blackstone_article.pdf
Titled Reverend William E Blackstone
Brandeis Wilson and the reverend who changed the world by Jerry Klinger
“Mr Brandeis is perfectly infatuated with the work you have done along the lines of zionism. It would have done your heart good to have heard him assert what a valuable contribution to the cause your document is. In fact he agrees with me that you are the father of zionism, as your work antecedates Herzls”
The dispentionalist christian reverend Blackstones work predated that of Theodor Herzl by nearly six years
Brandeis wrote in 1916
There has just come to my attention a copy of a memorial presented to president Benjamin Harrison under the date of march 5, 1891 entitled “Palestine for the jews”, in which the petioners request the president and secretary (James G.) Blaine to use their good offices with all the leading governments of Europe to secure the holding at an early date of an international conference to concider the conditions of the israelites and their claims to Palestine as their ancient home, and to promote in all other just and proper ways the alleviation of their suffering conditions.
The memorial originated in Chicago and presumably with William E Blackstone,…,. It is signed by the leading newspapers, clergymen, other leading men of Chicago, New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore and Washington.
The above source is selective and Thierry Meyssans article at voltairnet has juicier content http://www.voltairenet.org/article184973.html
The true founder of modern Zionism was not Jewish, but a Christian dispentionnaliste. Reverend William E. Blackstone was a U.S. preacher for whom true Christians would not have to participate in trials at the end of time. He taught that the latter would be taken to heaven during the final battle (the “rapture of the Church”, in English “the rapture”). In his view, the Jews would fight this battle and come out at the same time converted to Christ and victorious.
It is the theology of Reverend Blackstone which served as the basis for Washington’s unwavering support for the creation of Israel. And this long before AIPAC (the pro-Israel lobby) was created and took control of Congress. In reality, the power of the lobby derives not so much from its money and its ability to finance election campaigns as from this ideology still present in the USA [ American Theocracy (2006) by Kevin Phillips]
Meyssan states cathegorically:
Zionism has thus never had the goal of “saving the Jewish people by giving them a home,” but the triumph of Anglo-Saxon imperialism by associating them with it. Furthermore, not only is Zionism not a product of Jewish culture, but the majority of Zionists has never been Jews, while the majority of Jewish Zionists are not religious Jews. Biblical references ubiquitous in Israeli public discourse, reflect only the thought of the believing part of the country and are primarily intended to convince the U.S. population.
G’day Pilgrims
I agree with Hervé Ryssen Judaism is not a faith but the geopolitical project of a hysterical, incestuous master-race cult. http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Herv-Ryssen-explains-Judaism-is-not-a-faith-but-the-geopolitical-project-of-a-hysterical-incestuous-master-race-cult.shtml
Jews are NOT threatened, they just SAY they are! In Ukraine, Nuland, “Yats” Poroshenko, Kolomoisky et al are not being attacked, killed, maimed or dispossessed, Christian Ukrainians are. Similarly, in Palestine, Syria & Iraq, Jews are not being attacked, killed, maimed and dispossessed, Muslims & Christians are. DITTO everywhere.
Historically Jews have damaged & destroyed host societies at numerous times and in numerous places causing their hosts to expel them. That happened in Germany prior to WWII. But 150,000 men of Jewish origins joined the German military & only Jews who refused to become loyal German citizens were encouraged to emigrate.
National Socialism was a very positive, nation oriented ideology focussed on the welfare of ALL Germans (including loyal citizens of Jewish extraction) without distinction. It was NOT racist and anti-other nations or races but just pro-German. It was NOT a war mongering, genocidal ideology aimed at world conquest or destroying Jews. See http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Rethinking-Hitler-National-Socialism.shtml
National Socialists rightly wanted all whose allegiance was to Judaism and NOT to the German nation, to leave Germany. See eg: Zionism And The Third Reich. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Zionism_And_The_Third_Reich_4263.shtml
See also http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Leon-Degrelle—The-Epic-Story-of-the-Waffen-SS.shtml
And: http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/Dirty-Little-Secrets-Of-WWII-The-Hidden-Awkward-Origins-Of-World-War-2.shtml
There Was No Need For World War II. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/There-Was-No-Need-For-World-War-II.shtml
Churchill And Hitler…And History. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Churchill-And-Hitler-And-History.shtml
Germany declared war on Poland because Poland killed 58000 ethnic Germans in 1939 and was not going to stop. See Hitler’s Reichstag Speech of December 11, 194
http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Germany-s-Declaration-of-War-Against-the-United-States-Hitler-s-Reichstag-Speech-of-December-11-1941.shtml
Some but not all Jews who didn’t migrate and refused to integrate were INTERNED in concentration work camps http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/OFFICIAL-RECORDS-FROM-INTERNATIONAL-RED-CROSS-PROVE-HOLOCAUST-WAS-A-FRAUD—Repost.shtml
The Anne Frank Diary Fraud typifies the persecution lie & HoloHoax fraud. – http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com.au/2006/02/anne-frank-diary-fraud.html.
Similarly, the US interned USans of Japanese extraction after Pearl Harbour. BUT, unlike the Japanese in the US, many Jews remained free to live in society in German occupied Europe DESPITE the fact that global Jewry declared war on Germany (http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/WORLD-WAR-II-The-JEWS-Declared-War—AGAINST-Germany-NOT-the-Other-Way-Around.shtml) & caused WWII intending to destroy Germany which meant Jews were a threat to national security. Imagine what would happen to anyone in a similar situation in the US today?
So what the German nation did to Jews after global Jewry declared war on Germany in 1933, was not persecution, but lawful and legal self preservation action by a host society.
For an overview see: Hitler Gets A New Website: The Greatest Story Never Told. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Hitler-Gets-A-New-Website-Thr-Greatest-Story-Never-Told.shtml
It really is time humanity stopped German bashing.
Blessings,
Ron
You think that you know my religion because it is drilled in your head from childhood that Prophet Mohammad (saws) got all his stories from Bible and got him wrong. You don’t know my religion, neither you have the slightest inkling of it.
Just like you don’t know the Jewish religion, even though you have stolen their scripture and claim it to be yours. The Jews laugh at you, that you got all the stories from their Scripture and got them all wrong.
The above is a threat to you and they are mocking you, so you have been persecuting them for the last 2000+ years.
You don’t seem to realize that God is One, therefore He sent the same religion over and over throughout the times. From Prophet Adam (as) to Prophet Mohammad (saws), in between them at least 140,000 Prophets.
God is not your property, neither you have exclusiveness on God. We are God’s Property and He is a Just God for All His Creations.
G’day Pilgrims,
The idea that Anglos are a rival ideological faction competing with Talmudism for world domination is a bit novel. Arguably Zionism was created in the late 19th century by the Rothschilds bankers just as, in the late 18th Century, they created the Illuminati, the Jacobins & the “French Revolution”- a covert Jewish coup that “emancipated” French Jews (just as the Bolshevik organised “Russian Revolution” empowered Jews in Russia in 1917). Sooo, of course Zionism was not an issue among non-Jews OR Jews until the Rothschilds developed it as they ramped up WWI – as “predicted” by Albert Pike in his letter to Mazzini in 1871.
But Talmudism, the ideology driving Zionism appears to have been created in Babylon nearly 3,000 years ago. It didn’t just spring new born from the loins of European nationalism in the 19th century.
Zionism is apparently based on Torah mythology, a tribal nationalism developed by the Levites and Pharisees looong before Esu Immanuel (aka Jesus the Christ) condemned its practitioners 2000 years ago.
Over 7 centuries later the Khazars adopted Talmudic ideology and became the neo-Pharisees & they use it to flesh out Zionism today.
Arguably Jew banksters in the City of London CONTROL the Anglo-USraeli Empire and have done that for over two centuries – in uneasy partnership with the Rockefeller Cartel in the last 100 years. Moreover, City of London banksters have virtually controlled the British Empire since the establishment of the Bank of England on a usurious basis in 1694. That control became complete in the following century once they eliminated the “tally stick money” that had kept the ordinary British people relatively prosperous for several centuries during the Middle Ages. That bit of history is not emphasised by bankers who create money out of thin air & charge interest (usury) on it. I wonder why?
Jews intermarried with the British (and European) aristocracy so they are now able to “hide” within that mileau BUT the key to understanding WHO controls what in our world is whether or not any given action(s) and activities are TALMUDIC or not. IF they are Talmudic then the actors are Talmudists ie Jews, and it matters not at all if they are “devout” or admit their ideological proclivities or masquerade as “Anglos”, like Churchill whose mother was a Jewess; & Rupert Murdoch whose mother was a devout Jewess in Melbourne, Australia. BY THEIR FRUITS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM!
What matters is ideology not racial origins. Clearly Jews are NOT a race nor is Judaism a religion. Judaism, as Hervé Ryssen says, is not a faith but the geopolitical project of a hysterical, incestuous master-race cult. As such, those born & raised in its mind controlled environment must find it hard to escape; but never the less, for an adult, adhering to Talmudic ideology is a choice and anyone who professes to Judaism gets lots of political, financial, educational,vocational, cultural & other advantages from that association, including Holocaust survivor compensation and cheap Palestinian land etc.
Saker says religious Jews were often very hostile to the notion of a secular Israel & secular Jews did not really care about this quasi Biblical notion. Strange isn’t it? Most Jews don’t believe in god BUT they all believe that god GAVE them Palestine.
In his Audio Letters Dr Peter Beter reckoned that the major factions contending for world domination were the City of London Rothschilds’ Cabal that controlled the Bolsheviks, Israel and the Zionists while the Rockefeller Cartel controlled the US, Japan, major corporations and banks. He also indicated that Bolsheviks who believe in centralised state control seized control of most US government in the early 1980s but that the Rockefeller corporatists fought back under Reagan and Bush and the struggle persists. In effect, Anglos & others along with Jewish hasbara & sayanim provide the support troops for both sides.
Blessings,
Ron
I would like to consider all this for several days and write a longer response but probably won’t find the time. For now let me just say that I find the term AngloZionist a tad weak for several reasons.
As you yourself argue, the 1% the term refers to are not all that identified with the British Empire, the USA or Israel per se, rather to their own elevated status viz. the rest of humanity. Zionism is a term involved with establishing a homeland for Jewish people as you well described but it has little or nothing to do with your ‘Anglozionists’ except insofar as Israel is just one of many of that elite’s projects.
I like ‘the Money Power’, because actually it gets further into the philosophical and spiritual aspects at play, which are far more important than race or ideology. Money Power says far more than money. It denotes emphasis on materialism, on abstract concept over living experience, of profit-obsessed Commercial Law over Natural Law derived from bedrock Honour Code (the secular basis of family, religion and all that develops virtue in our lives).
This is a spiritual war as old as humanity itself for each day, every moment, we choose whether or not to follow an honour code or a code of cowards, of corporatists, of sheeple, of toadies, of warrior husband or warrior wife and so on. Each moment that battle is ongoing. It is at the core of the human journey.
Which means that there will always be such ‘AngloZionists’ or ‘Ruling Elites’ or ‘Hidden Oligarchs’. In old Hindu and Buddhist cosmology they are one of the Six Realms of being (hell, ghost, animal, human, asuras/titans, gods), namely asuras, who are very intelligent and superior to humans and always striving both to stay on top of any they perceive as below, and to pull the gods down off their thrones, and to climb up and storm the castle of those same gods. They are always at war. They are always paranoid assuming that all other beings are as obsessed as they. They can never stop with this mentality unless somehow their unceasing intelligence and energy is channelled into productive endeavours (like being great generals, engineers etc.) This may be a somewhat imaginative description, but I think it still speaks truth, albeit somewhat impressionistically.
In other words, this sort of thing is always going on. Therefore I find the term AngloZionist too narrow and partisan.
Russia is part of the Central Banking system, no? Is it truly as lily white as it appears? Does Putin – whom I admire albeit cautiously – not have billions stashed away offshore?
Racism as other people have commented is two-edged: there is such a thing as healthy group identity and this can be related to all being from the same area, speaking same language for generations, sharing same cuisine and overall culture. It’s a great thing, to be treasured not wiped out by AngloZionist liberalism!
The Money Power gets my vote, and will cause far less confusion.
Also, it’s weak because the Zionists tag lets too many Jews off the hook. If you are going to say that Zionists are a core part of your 1% but they don’t really care about Israel or Jews all that much, what does that mean for one thing, and for another, I think what you really mean is that they come from entrenched inter-related elite-level family networks, aka Rothschilds et alia types. Here, there being Jewish is a clearer description of their identification process than Zionist, which is just a grand strategy, or uber-tactic in a larger strategy which seeks global control. It’s basically a hornet’s nest in the oil patch and little more. All that pap about a homeland and the Bible is just for religious nutters to identify with so they have a population to make it look like they are serious about having a real country. It isn’t a real country and never will be: absent massive injection of cash from the US to the tune of billions per year, it would collapse in a few weeks.
I think it’s about time most Jews just read Atzmon and Schlomo Sand and walk away from that whole identity and just be decent Germans, Poles, Russians, British, French, Americans and what have you. But it won’t happen because of their addiction to money and remaining superior-different. That is the core of the tribal international network they have been setting up spontaneously, through a combination of need, opportunity and ambition, since Babylonian times when para-national trading networks first came into being in the Middle East. (More advanced Central and Southern American Empires apparently were no less successful but without money. Well, we wiped them out and so never learned their secrets!)
So again, I don’t like the term. It is confusing no matter how much and how well you write about it. I am on your side (I think), but suggest you use clearer terms for the 1%.
@Nabil2020 said: One thing I might add that will intrigue you, or not:
I believe and accept, despite being an Arab-Jew, that Israel is not the correct place for the Holy land, that its position is in South West Arabia in the Asir mountains region.
You are a Coptic Christian disguised as a Quran Only Muslim. Adherent of Rashad Khalifa.
You believe that Prophet Mohammad (saws) was NOT born in Becca (Mecca), Saudi Arabia and spread the Islam from there.
You believe that Prophet Mohammad (saws) was born in Becca Valley, Syria and spread the Islam from there.
@Nabil2020 said: The word Jew in the Quran is actually Yahud, which in fact means in Arabic the “one who returned to God in repentance”.
Not true! There were 12 tribes and 1 tribe called Judea (Yehud). The tribe of Judea, annihilated the other 11 tribes. War Crimes.
Quran correctly calls the 12 tribes as Banu Israel (tribes of Jacob). And, calls the Judea tribe as Yehud. Have you ever heard of Yehudi?
ticking off follow up by email..
Europe is falling apart:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOffk1G6OX8
I am new here (a few months) and must say that it is plesure (sometimes painful) to read that blog. Keep fighting MSM with truth.
Respect, iceberger
Saker,
in 2) the Israel Shahak hyperlink goes to the book by Finkelstein, but you meant to link to Shahak’s “Jewish History, Jewish Religion”, no?
@Bernard: in 2) the Israel Shahak hyperlink goes to the book by Finkelstein, but you meant to link to Shahak’s “Jewish History, Jewish Religion”, no
Yes, thank you. Hyperlink fixed.
Many thanks for spotting the screwup!
Cheers,
The Saker
@Bernard: in 2) the Israel Shahak hyperlink goes to the book by Finkelstein, but you meant to link to Shahak’s “Jewish History, Jewish Religion”, no
Yes, thank you. Hyperlink fixed.
Many thanks for spotting the screwup!
Cheers,
The Saker
Dear Saker,
I was sad that you had to respond to the comments and criticism and arguments about Jews and zionists and whatever.
People seem more interested in specific words rather than focus on the actual situation and the direction the world leadership is taking humanity to.
I suggest you not only throw away anti-jewsih rants but also any comments which try to attack your use of words.
If the comment is not about what the Governments are doing but the comments are about how you use your words, then those comments are just useless rants.
@Enough Said,
Mohamed.
04 September, 2014 10:37, 04 September, 2014 11:24, 04 September, 2014 11:48
Please keep your promise. Enough is enough.
There is something that I would have liked to have written better in my other comment, and it is the next sentence.
The People of East Ukraine are for a Non Nazi Ukraine, and they are Pro Democracy, Pro Liberty, Pro Freedom, and Pro Multicultural, and they have been Denied their Constitutional Democracy by the Illegitimate Nazi Puppet Coup Junta in Kiev, and they are Only Defending themselves from Unprovoked Nazi Aggression, and for which they have the Right under International Law to Defend themselves.
These Facts are Obvious to those who know the Facts, and this includes All Politicians of the European Union and America.
Anglo-Zionist is a suitable designation, but essential details that could facilitate the comprehension of the concept could be mentioned in addition to Saker’s post.
The Anglo part is best understood by reading Quigley’s Anglo-American Establishment. You can’t leave aside Rhodes, the Milner group, the Round Table etc… Central to this Anglo-American ideology is the concept of World Government. The conspiracy for a world government is an open one, all documents are available from official organisations on internet. Interesting information is available at streitcouncil.org. Clarence Streit was a Rhodes scholar.
The Jewish partners have also the ambition of a world government, but for other reasons, mainly to eradicate the Christian religion (Maurice Pinay, The Plot Against The Church) and impose a despotic Jewish ruler over the gentiles (last Protocol).
Zionism took control of UK and the US governments already before WWI (Reed, The Controversy of Zion). Their double-edged weapon to achieve world control was Communism to instigate a world revolution (Nesta Webster, The World Revolution), and Zionism to subvert Western governments.
Already in 1946, a project of world government was submitted to Stalin by the US government (The Baruch Plan). Baruch was a Jewish oligarch, the Soros of the time, adviser of several US presidents and financial manager of the Manhattan project, composed essentially of Jewish nuclear scientists. The Baruch plan for world government, rejected by Stalin, was based on the monopoly of the use of nuclear weapons and the suppression of the veto right at the Security Council.
The merger of Anglo and Zionist interests towards world dominion is not an association of equal partners. The Anglo(-Americans) have the military power and the Zionists have their networks of influence and above all the power of money and usury.
All Western, Russian and Chinese central banks are under their control. Russian and Chinese
elites are also part of the conspiracy, but they might express disagreement on the the size of the share they think they are entitled to have. Big blocks or Unions are slowly being created as the pieces that will compose the future World Government. The Unions will all be supranational, the European Union, North-American Union, the Transatlantic Union in the making with the TAFTA negotiations, the Eurasian Union. Supranational means loss of sovereignty for the nations composing them. The first signs of future African and Latin American unions already exist in the Mercosur Customs Union and the Southern African Customs Union (SACU).
Orwell’s 1948 vision of world blocks (Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia) in perpetual conflict is amazingly realistic. The Ukraine confict can be seen as a conflict between Oceania and Eurasia after Putin promoted an EU-Russia trade zone from Lisbon to Vladivostok already in 2010, then again in January 2014. This was going radically against the long-planned Oceania’s TAFTA project, prerequisite leading to the Transatlantic Union, merging the EU
with the North American Union.
One could argue that designating that alliance Anglo-Jewish would be more appropriate, since the Talmudo-Judaic plot is much older, centuries older than its last avatar, Zionism. But this probably would create other definition problems around the Jewishness concept.
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Anonymous says “Russian and Chinese central banks are under their control”
No I doubt it.
The west has long complained about the chinese monetary policy with an undervalued currency for boosting exports. If the west controlled the issuing of chinese currency which is what the central bank would do if the west controlled it, their actual unwanted monetary policy could not take place.
However China has problems with a so called shadow banking sector involved in the construction branch. Maybe thats an entrance point for corrupting influence of angloamerican finance.
Russia was under the thumb of IMF until around 2006, but then payed the debth. Recently they have moved away from the petrodollar. It would seem odd if they let anybody force them to restrict the issuing of rubles depending on the dollarvalue of their exports unless they so desired voluntarily because its considered beneficial for economic stability.
@Peter
Russian and Chinese central banks are member of BIS, therefore integrated in globalist system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Bank_of_Russia
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_rothschild40.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalbanking04.htm